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neuroguten tag meine herren und damen und roboten, haben sie gegessen eine flughafen?00:08
daftykinsach ja, naturlich!00:11
neurosehr gut00:11
neuroi'm just reading this: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/bitcoin-exchange/00:11
neurowhat an omnishambles00:11
daftykinsaber nur ein sandwich00:11
neuro"DER POLIZEI!"00:12
neuro"Nur einmal"00:12
neuro"Ha ha ha"00:12
neuro"Mr. Takagi, I'm really not interested in your computer."00:16
ali1234neuro: their transaction database was just leaked too00:17
neuro"But I need the code key, because I am interested in the six hundred and forty million dollars in negotiable bearer bonds that you have locked in your vault."00:17
neuro"And the computer ... controls the vault."00:17
ali1234every account balance (but not username or email just an anonymous guid)00:18
neuroouch00:18
neuroso glad i have never bothered with bitcoin00:18
ali1234and also every transaction ever made, but again, no link to which account, just a (different) account guid00:18
ali1234oh and also a list of deposits and withdrawals, again, completely anonymized00:19
neurobut still00:19
ali1234the data isn't complete either, but i can confirm it is legit00:20
ali1234there is something more going on here than "lol hackers"00:20
shaunoit does seem that someone's not just trying to plunder it, but completely discredit it00:23
ali1234yes, i totally agree00:23
ali1234so far everything seems to have been leaked from the inside00:26
ali1234or at least that is what someone wants people to think00:28
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Hornetneuro: 12.4 works, mostly00:42
Hornetstuck at installing grub now, can't find a solution that seems to apply00:42
Hornetthe default attempt at installing on /sda fails and is a fatal error00:43
HornetI made a seperate boot partition on a non raid drive, but df -h can't see it00:43
Hornetdoesn't help that the ash shell there pisses around with mount points anyway00:44
Hornetalso for some reason my raid is apparently md/0 not md000:44
Hornetwhich is a bit shit00:44
Hornet(any insights from the peanut gallery much appreciated)00:46
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ali1234the gox dump also contains a wallet stealer apparently...02:54
mappsarhj so annoyed lost my phone03:26
MooDoomorning all06:45
mappsmorning06:48
mappshas anyone used a firefox phone|06:48
MooDoocan't say I have mapps06:59
mappsgutted i lost my phone :( and neither orange nor the police were any use07:01
mappsi put it in 'lost mode' on icloud findmyiphone and displayed a message 'this iphone is lost..please call #'' but noones called..hoping someone will..but who knows07:01
mappsi dont get how findmyiphones as useful as they make out..it gives you na vague location it says it could be in 5-100 houses on a street here...police said 'nothing much we can do as we cant search random houses' but to 'monitor' it O_o07:02
MooDoo:(07:03
mappsand you cant monitor it anyway..here's another thing right..cancel my contract so the 3g dies right away..dso of course it cant update its location07:03
mappslol07:03
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Knightwisemorning07:39
mappsmorning07:40
Knightwisehey mapps :) how are you dude07:46
mappsim ok..yourself?07:46
mappswatcjig my favourite show atm07:46
mappsnot judge judy for once;p true detective07:46
Knightwisehaha :)07:48
Knightwisei'm browsing around looking for a new laptop for my company07:48
mappscool07:48
Knightwisenot sure what i need to get07:48
mappswhat spec you looking for07:48
MooDoowhat you planning on doing on the laptop?07:48
Knightwisewill be my main work machine.07:48
Knightwisei'll be doing  consultancy at clients.07:49
Knightwiseso it will probably need to run some vm's07:49
KnightwiseI took a look at the lenovo yoga 2 pro07:49
KnightwiseI7, 16 gig, 512ssd , 13 inch , high res screen07:50
MooDoo13 inch screen?  wow that's small07:51
MartijnVdSthe Ubuntu dev one is good :)07:51
MartijnVdSit's 13", has an i7 afaik, and loads of ram07:52
MartijnVdSI run VMs on mine all the time07:52
KnightwiseMartijnVdS: which one is that you are speakin about ?07:52
KnightwiseMooDoo: It has to be portable , I can always hook up an external display07:52
MooDooKnightwise: cool07:53
mappswow07:54
mapps13 inch pfft07:54
mappsi want bigger :D ive got an nc10 but its not my main machine07:54
MooDoomapps: hehe yeah I'm with you on that one :)07:54
mappsi quite liked the idea of an imac or macbook whatever theyre claled..but the displays are too small!!07:54
mappsnot forking out all that money for a tiny display07:54
KnightwiseHmmm. Dell Xps13 .. not bad07:54
KnightwiseMartijnVdS: Pricetag ?07:55
mappsYES07:55
mappsdell are nice07:55
mapps:D07:55
mappsbut ..1307:55
mappspfft07:55
mappsdell xps..17 and now youre talking;)07:56
KnightwiseLugging a 15 around is a drag07:59
MooDooKnightwise: it's ok especially in my ogio ubuntu bag, not so hard on the shoulders.07:59
KnightwiseMooDoo: so which one do you have ? The 17 inch Xps ?08:02
MartijnVdSKnightwise: no idea, $employer paid for mine :)08:02
KnightwiseMartijnVdS: just looking , about 1200 euros ,08:03
Knightwisenot that expensive08:03
MartijnVdSand you KNOW it'll run Ubuntu fine ;)08:05
MooDooKnightwise: no 15' lattitude E651008:05
KnightwiseMartijnVdS: thats the important part : it just HAS to work fine.08:10
KnightwiseI had my fair share of troubles with my lenovo08:11
Knightwisehmm. wondering if you can update the ram and the SSD on that one08:12
MartijnVdSKnightwise: there's a thing on the bottom to access RAM, I think08:12
MartijnVdSKnightwise: SSD will be harder, but is probably msata or similar08:13
MartijnVdS[    1.942405] ata1.00: ATA-9: SAMSUNG SSD PM841 mSATA 256GB, DXT43D0Q, max UDMA/13308:13
MartijnVdSyup, msata :)08:13
Knightwisehmm.. Says this one comes with a touchscreen and everything http://www.dell.com/be/bedrijven/p/xps-13-linux/pd?refid=xps-13-linux&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=3&~ck=dellSearch&isredir=true08:14
MartijnVdSKnightwise: it does come with a touch screen, but I never use that bit08:15
MartijnVdSdirty fingerprints08:15
KnightwiseMe neither.08:18
Knightwisehave a touchscreen on my lenovo twist right now..08:18
Knightwisenever use it.08:18
Knightwisegreat thing with this XPS is that the whole ubuntu thing just works.08:22
Knightwiseand if the client wants me to run windows I can just install a VM.08:22
MooDooKnightwise: I just multiboot with windows 8.108:24
KnightwiseMooDoo: not my thing. If your windows os gets bitrot you have to reinstall/reconfigure both.08:29
MooDooKnightwise: yeah luckily I don't mind reinstalling, most of my important stuff I back to my nas so it's easily transferrable if it does go awry08:30
DJonesKnightwise: I'd recommend a Lenovo Y510P (i7-4700MQ, 15.6" at 1920*1080, various memory options, dual graphics (intel/nvidia 750M), I got one 2 weeks ago, installed 14.04 + nvidia-prime and everything just worked08:32
DJonesKnightwise: This is the one I got, £799 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Y510p-15-6-inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B00FSBFBD2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1393588902&sr=8-3&keywords=y510p08:34
KnightwiseDJones: i had seen this one http://www.engadget.com/products/lenovo/yoga/2-pro/08:38
DJonesKnightwise: Although the resolution on those is good, I wanted a 15.6" screen, the other difference I went for was the better processor in the y510p08:41
mappsÌû08:42
KnightwiseI'm going for a 13 inch one. If I need a bigger screen I'll just hook up an external display08:53
jussimorning all08:55
jussiperhaps I should go down and get breakfast...08:55
TheOpenSourcererThis is good - A, what was, $2400 Linux course available (with a certificate if wanted) for free: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/2400-introduction-to-linux-course-will-be-free-and-online-this-summer/08:56
jussiI swear these full english breakfasts are making me fat...08:56
mappshm09:12
mappscaqnt find a good guide for samba09:13
MartijnVdSmapps: apt-get install samba; man smb.conf :)09:13
MartijnVdSmapps: what do you want to know?09:13
mappsi just want to be able to access my windows share on ubuntu09:13
mappsand vice versa09:13
MartijnVdSmapps: Mounting a windows drive on linux is best done with "cifs", package "cifs-utils", dpkg -L for the man pages09:14
MartijnVdSmapps: samba comes with a lot of docs on how to configure it and what the impact of the options are09:14
mappsah ok09:15
mappsi thought samba was always talked of for window smounts09:15
mappsso i should look into cifs thanks09:15
dwatkinsit's the same thing, I believe, mapps09:16
MartijnVdSmapps: "Samba" is a suite of software, but most famous for being the daemon that lets windows machines brows files on your linux machines09:17
dwatkins"Samba provides CIFS file shares"09:17
MartijnVdScifs-utils uses the same protocol, I think even built from the same source, to mount Windows drives on Linux machines09:17
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day of Awesomeness! :-D09:19
MartijnVdSJamesTait: Day of Awesomeness?09:20
JamesTaitMartijnVdS, that's what it says.  I'm not going to argue. ;)09:20
MartijnVdSJamesTait: awesome :)09:20
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:29
MooDoomorning bigcalm09:30
mappshmm is it possible to edit /etc/motd or /etc/issue.net on ubuntu? I edited /etc/issue.net and uncommented #Banner /etc/issue.net in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but the contents of it arent shown09:33
MartijnVdSit should be possible09:33
MartijnVdSdid you restart sshd?09:33
mappsyep09:33
mappswonder why it didnt display then09:33
bigcalmOne last push of the date poll for this year's RAT: http://doodle.com/h7qqfhfk5gcp86ts09:38
bigcalmThough we do have a clear idea of the most popular date09:38
MartijnVdSALL the dates :)09:39
Laneythat's the same day as the debian uk bbq!09:39
bigcalmThat's a lot of beerage09:39
bigcalmLaney: but nobody uses Debian :)09:39
MooDoobigcalm: yeah they do :p09:39
* Laney thinks about that for a bit09:40
bigcalmLa la la, I can't hear you09:40
MooDoobigcalm: debian debian ner ner ner ner ner09:40
bigcalmOkay, everybody uses Debian09:40
MooDoobigcalm: just looking #debianuk, that's a support channel I setup and there a huge amoubnt of people there, they are just invisible and being hidden by chanserv ;)09:41
Laneyyou're trying to say that nobody uses debian because they aren't in some random channel you made?09:43
MooDooLaney: I was just being silly :)09:43
Laneyhmmmmmmmmm09:43
MooDoo:p09:43
dwatkinsno-one seems to be in #debianuk :'(09:44
MooDoodwatkins: I know I was having a giggle, it's something I setup a while ago for a friend who's a debian user09:45
MartijnVdSMooDoo: sure, "a friend" ;)09:45
MooDooMartijnVdS: oh don't you start.....09:45
MooDoo;)09:45
Laneyit's #debian or #debian-uk on oftc09:46
Laney#debian also exists on freenode afaik09:46
dwatkinsyep, it's quite popular09:48
diploMorning all10:12
MooDoomorning diplo10:13
diploHad a colleague talk to me about her pc on friday, said she had a call from a tech company they use for support but according to that company no one had called them10:17
diploBut the person had their credit card info10:17
MooDooouch10:17
MooDooIf a customer manually renews a .co.uk domain here:10:17
MooDoohttps://customer.heartinternet.co.uk/manage/renewals.cgi10:17
MooDooAnd the relevant .uk domain is available we will offer to put a pre-order for the .uk domain into their basket.10:17
MooDooIf the customer clicks 'No thanks' we should not ask them again for that domain.10:17
MooDooIf a customer manually renews a .co.uk domain here:10:17
MooDoohttps://customer.heartinternet.co.uk/manage/renewals.cgi10:17
MooDooAnd the relevant .uk domain is available we will offer to put a pre-order for the .uk domain into their basket.10:17
MooDooIf the customer clicks 'No thanks' we should not ask them again for that domain.10:17
MooDoooops10:17
diploSo I thought, virus or somesthing along those lines but this is the cleanest PC I've seen in years10:17
MooDoostrange10:18
diploCan't think what to look for now :)10:18
* diplo clicks renewals10:18
MooDooi'd be worried where the other party got the CC details.10:18
diploThat's what I was, thought some sort of key logger or something10:19
diploBut I've found nothing yet!10:19
diploNot one virus/malware / anything - clean PC10:19
MooDoohave they spoken to their bank to see if there is any fraudulent issues?10:19
diploThey phoned them up and cancelled it straight away, the person who phoned them wanted to charge them £299 renewal or something and they said no and he tried anyway10:20
MooDoodiplo: format and reinstall, only way to be sure.10:21
MartijnVdSMooDoo: nuking from orbit would probably work as well :)10:22
MooDooMartijnVdS: all this windows stuff sounds alien[s] to me ;)10:23
MartijnVdS8-)10:23
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:23
MooDoobrobostigon: hello there10:23
brobostigonhello MooDoo10:24
MooDoobrobostigon: how are you this morning?10:31
brobostigonMooDoo: not bad really, a few things on my list for the day, going to wake myself up, then sort them out.10:32
brobostigonMooDoo: and you?10:33
MooDooyeah I'm ok thanks :) daughter up all night coughing so little tired but other than that, I'm ok :D10:33
brobostigon:)10:34
* popey has two ill family members here10:38
brobostigon:(10:39
MooDoo:(10:39
bigcalmpopey: the cats? :(10:39
* AlanBell has an ill child too10:41
MooDoomy lass kept us up from 12 till about 3am, I get up at 5:30 for work lol10:41
popeynah, mum and sam10:42
bigcalm:(10:42
davmor2Morning all11:00
MooDoomorning davmor2 :)11:00
MartijnVdShttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1g84m0sXpnNCv84GpN2PLZG/the-hitchhiker-s-guide-to-the-galaxy-game-30th-anniversary-edition11:06
bigcalmMorning davmor211:07
* bigcalm squieees11:07
bigcalmMartijnVdS: I loved this back in the 90s. Thank you for destroying my day :)11:08
popeyhttps://rms.sexy/11:08
popey*blink*11:08
MooDoowtf?11:09
MartijnVdSpopey: 8-)11:09
MooDoothanks popey I can never unsee that :(11:09
bigcalmOh my11:10
bigcalm!family | popey11:10
bigcalm!ohmy | popey11:10
lubotu3popey: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.11:10
MooDoolol11:10
popeyoi11:10
MooDoothat was evil bigcalm11:11
bigcalm:P11:12
bashrcan rms fan page?11:13
MooDoobashrc: it's a rotating set of images featuring rms11:13
MooDoojust the domain is rather funny11:13
AlanBellin alluring poses11:13
MooDooew ew ew11:14
AlanBellheh11:14
MooDooAlanBell: get out now :p11:14
bashrcnice11:15
AlanBellyou have to wonder what was going through the mind of the person who put time, money and effort into creating that11:16
bigcalm"For a dead person you are talking too much."11:18
MooDoo?11:18
foobarrytesting tomcat sucks. 5+ mins to shut down and start up again at least11:19
foobarryhas anyone seen that film gravity? watched last night11:21
popeyyes11:25
popeytwice11:25
bashrcwas it any good?11:25
popeyi liked it11:25
hooveryep, saw it a few months ago11:25
foobarrygood for an american film, certainly11:25
hooverthe first 3d movie I ever saw11:26
foobarryahh, that makes sense of a few scenes11:26
foobarry"let's make a film that would look cool in 3d"11:26
MooDoobut it's sandra bullock in space :(11:26
foobarryi would prefer different actors11:26
hooverIndeed, not much to be spotted there ;)11:26
foobarrygeorge clooney was doing a good impression of buzz lightyear11:27
davmor2MooDoo: and your point?11:32
MooDoodavmor2: it's sandra bullock in space :S  she can't do sci fi, put her back in a bus or strap a gun to her leg, space is not for her lol11:32
hooverI think she's cute11:34
foobarrythere was a slow undressing from spacesuit scene for those inclined11:34
MooDooto order from the ubuntu shop you have to login to launchpad...woah11:36
popeythats always been the case11:37
MooDoopopey: yeah never ordered before, just getting myself a t11:37
resut11:39
MooDooresu: t-shirt11:39
dvrrhow to resolve Tomcat Heap Dump (.hprof file)12:00
MooDoohttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/371495/analyze-tomcat-heap-in-detail-on-a-production-system12:02
foobarrydvrr: you need more google power12:20
Knightwisehmz. Dell XPS 13 inch laptop looks purdy damn cool.12:28
foobarrygetting a dell laptop for work12:29
foobarryits not that one though12:29
Knightwisehmm .. says here that parts like RAM are not exchangable :(12:34
davmor2Knightwise: I think you can if you are happy soldering :)12:46
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daubersls13:03
daubersle sigh13:03
davmor2daubers: thanks I always assumed that ls stood for list not le sigh :D13:03
MartijnVdSso that's what that's short for :)13:03
foobarry*l*ike *s*ausages13:06
foobarrymmm jaffa cakes13:08
foobarrywoops, just ate half the pack13:08
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foobarrywhich gtreamer plugin do i need for rhythombox to convert to mp3?14:48
bigcalmSuperMatt: do you know if there is a problem with the ticketing system? I've just created 2 new tickets and they aren't showing. Yet I'm getting email alerts14:49
MooDoofoobarry: not sure, but do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed, does that have it included, not sure really14:49
MooDoofoobarry:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162321414:50
bigcalmSuperMatt: they are showing now. That was a concerning few minutes14:51
popeyfoobarry: gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 ?14:51
popeyoh, convert _to_ mp3?14:51
popeydidnt know they did encoders.14:51
MooDooI think it's plugins-ugly plugins-good plugins-bad-multiverse just see on that link I added14:52
popeyubuntu-restricted-extras is for decoders, not encoders14:52
MooDooah ok14:54
foobarryon 12.04?14:54
foobarrysomething is broke14:54
foobarryrhythmbox asks to install a gstreamer plugin but the install button is greyed out14:55
popeyto encode?14:55
foobarryrip a cd to mp314:55
popeygstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse + lame I expect14:56
MooDoodid you have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162321414:56
popeylame will actually do the gruntwork, called by gstreamer14:57
foobarryPackage gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is not available, but is referred to by another package.14:57
foobarryE: Package 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse' has no installation candidate14:57
MartijnVdSfoobarry: do you have multiverse enabled?14:58
popeyah, discontinued package by the look of it14:58
popeygstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly + lame will probably be enough then?14:58
foobarrypretty sure i have those..14:58
foobarryjust checking14:59
popeyyeah, it refers to liblame too14:59
foobarryhave liblame not lame...14:59
popeyyeah, you need lame too IIRC14:59
foobarry:(14:59
foobarrystill broken15:00
foobarryhttp://ubuntuone.com/5JCncQ2WgkHS9D1zMVtvps15:00
foobarrythink i'll find something else15:02
foobarrysound juicer cooked the mp3s at 32kps..15:04
MartijnVdSfoobarry: sound-juicer also uses gstreamer.. but you can set the quality. Also, are you sure it's not VBR?15:06
foobarryeven so...32kb?15:08
foobarryrhythmbox and I have mutual hatred15:09
MartijnVdSfoobarry: VBR = *variable* bitrate. How are you determining it's 32kbps?15:09
foobarrynautilus15:10
MartijnVdSfoobarry: how large is the file, and how long is it (in time)15:10
foobarry3MB for regular song15:10
MartijnVdSsounds like >32kbps15:10
foobarryyeah15:10
foobarryjust asking clementine15:10
MartijnVdSfoobarry: try "exiftool file.mp3"15:10
foobarryclementine thinks 32kb15:12
foobarryall other songs are 192 ish15:12
MartijnVdSfoobarry: there's no single bitrate for a VBR song.15:13
MartijnVdSfoobarry: can you check with exiftool please?15:13
foobarryexiftool not in repos15:13
MartijnVdSfoobarry: it could very well be that the first frame is silence, which compresses well, so it's the lowest bitrate possible15:13
MartijnVdSfoobarry: just try it.15:13
foobarryexiftool not in repos15:14
MartijnVdSfoobarry: command-not-found will tell you the package.15:14
MartijnVdSfoobarry: just type on the command line "exiftool file.mp3" - it'll give you an apt-get command15:14
foobarrygo it15:14
foobarrygot15:14
foobarryit's guitar music, so it wold compress well in fact15:14
foobarryhttp://pastebin.com/UiEde9wU15:15
MartijnVdShmm no idea15:16
MartijnVdSfoobarry: which profile did you select in sound-juicer's prefs/15:16
foobarrymp315:16
foobarryno custiomsisation allowed15:17
foobarrydon't worry15:17
foobarrygonna give up and do it at home15:17
foobarryhttp://pastebin.com/i7zdYLXQ15:30
foobarryasunder did it better, but without id3 lookup15:30
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diddledanoops16:27
diddledanmy dns disappeared over the weekend16:27
diddledanho hum, no work-related emails for me ;-)16:28
diddledan\o/ for being cut off16:28
shauno:|16:46
shaunoI'm wading through 'soap'(?  appears to be xml that loves the sound of its own voice) because someone wasn't happy that I documented part of a protocol as 'magic'16:47
davmor2shauno: should of called it "MagicSmoke" then everything would of worked fine ;)16:52
shaunooh it does work fine.  that's why it's magic.  never documented it because it never broke16:53
shaunonormally I just get to document the stuff that's a little crazy.  like one routine where 25=016:54
diddledanspeaking of "magic"... AlanBell, when do I get to name my pi?! :-p16:54
diddledanI want to name it "magic-pixies"16:55
diddledanthen the build log on packages it creates will say something along the lines of "built by magic pixies"16:55
diddledanthere's nothing better than a troll that keeps trolling :-D16:56
shaunobacon?16:57
diddledanmmm, bacon16:57
shaunoI made pancakes last night.  turns out I'm not very good at it16:57
diddledanlol16:57
diddledanI wouldn't have a clue how to do such a thing16:58
diddledanegg?16:58
diddledanmilk?16:58
diddledanflour?16:58
shaunocup flour, cup milk, one egg16:58
shaunoput in pan, panic until edible, eat before anyone sees how bad it looks16:58
diddledanlmao16:58
popeymy kids love pancakes16:59
shaunoI used to love helping mum.  from my experiences last night, I'm not sure I was as much help as I thought I was16:59
popeypan should be quite hot. i use a brush to cover the pan with oil, and a soup ladel to spoon the mixture in16:59
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shaunothis is true of many things, actually.  the more I try to look after a theoretically adult me, the more I'm amazed at how mum managed 5 of us17:01
diddledanI'm assuming ladel-hosen is when you use a spoon and a pipe to repeatedly beat and squirt water on a german?17:01
shaunodan, I believe that's only legal in berwick17:01
diddledanI'd be good as a CIA dude17:02
diddledanwacky punishment > simulating drowning17:03
diddledanplus it would look better when the videos leak17:03
diddledanpeople would be incredulous at the crazyness of it rather than the inhumanity17:04
shaunoI think you talk too much for that to be a valid career choice17:04
diddledanI'm not sure talking is ever an issue. it's talking about things that people actually believe17:16
diddledanand if my wacky theory holds then people will think I'm a nutjob instead of a bona fide goverment employee17:16
diddledanit obviously helps that I am in fact an actual nutjob17:17
SuperMattbigcalm: please don't message me about RS stuff >.<17:22
SuperMattbut no, I don't think so17:22
SuperMattI didn't get any alerts17:23
bigcalmSuperMatt: hehe, sorry. I shall say no more :P17:30
bigcalmSupernoodles for tea - wooooooooooo17:34
diddledanbigcalm: living the high-life, eh?17:37
Laneysounds like the life17:37
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daftykinschap i know spilt water on his laptop today18:34
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/1lbtbj9aoqeprgx/IMG-20140310-WA0000.jpg18:34
daftykinsthis thing will be hell to work on18:35
diddledandaftykins: \o/18:36
diddledanthat looks compact18:36
diddledanit's got an ssd by the looks?18:36
diddledanand a teeny weeny fan18:36
daftykinsyep18:36
daftykinscore 2 duo sony VAIO TT with a 120GB samsung SSD, 4GB RAM18:37
daftykinsfew years on it now18:37
* diddledan sniggers, you said TT18:37
diddledanfirst job then, replace that sata ssd with a bigger one :-p18:38
daftykinsnope18:39
diddledanoh yeah, make it work is probably more important18:39
daftykinshalf the keyboard's dead, no viable replacements18:39
daftykinsso new Lenovo ordered already18:39
diddledanaah18:39
diddledanit's a doorstop then?18:39
daftykinsthis thing's too old to put money into really18:39
daftykinswell i have the lower panel in front of me right now18:39
daftykinsjust disconnected that blue plastic pull-tab ribbon18:40
daftykinsi'm tempted to try taking the keyboard apart as much as possible and dry/clean it further18:40
daftykinsprobably dead already though18:40
daftykinshe ran it all day and overnight to 'dry it out' ;_;18:40
* diddledan spots the nice man-trays full of man-things (the green boxes top left)18:40
diddledanyeah, that was probably a bad idea18:41
daftykinsheh yeah his basement 'work room'18:41
daftykinsthe rest of the machine is fine, just i don't really have a use for it and neither does he18:41
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mappshmm why wont my machine boot up automatically19:35
mappsgrub just sits there19:35
jpdsmapps: That's a sign that it failed to shutdown correctly.19:37
mappshmm..but i reboot and up comes the grub menu every time and it just sits and waits never ever ever boots up without a key press19:38
mappsi checked /etc/default/grub and timeout set to 1019:38
SuperMattbigcalm: thanks man, you really have no idea how little time I can spend on here now19:41
diddledanthat's an annoying feature tbh19:44
diddledanif it failed to shut down properly then ofc I want it to stop mid-boot so I have to drive to the datacentre and fix it19:45
balldiddledan: If it's in a datacentre, doesn't it have LOM?19:45
diddledanball: no, my boss is cheap19:46
balldiddledan: Penny wise and pound foolish?19:46
diddledanbingo19:46
diddledanLOM would be awesome19:46
diddledanbut still a manual intervention on an automatic process is annoying19:47
diddledanit should only stop booting if it can't complete safely19:47
directhexGRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=1019:49
directhexthat value is how many seconds to wait if it thinks boot failed. default is infinite19:50
MooDooevening all19:51
ballGood afternoon MooDoo19:52
MooDoo:)19:52
mappshm20:47
mappsdirecthex,  i dont see that anywhere20:47
mappshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069800/20:47
directhexhttps://thelastmaimou.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/this-grub-does-not-start-in-ubuntu/20:50
mappsthanks20:51
mappsadded it now lts see20:51
mappswrked20:57
mappsthanks directhex20:57
MartijnVdSaquarius: Riddling needs more levels :)21:06
mappsi disabled root for ssh - figured best idea..no? get loads of people trying to gain access in auth.log to user root21:08
mapps and it didnt take affect until i rebooted..even tho i restarted sshd21:08
* DJones wonders why Rambo II is on the Syfy channel21:08
mappsshouldnt just restarting have been enough21:08
aquariusMartijnVdS, sorry :) There may be a Riddling 2 at some point...21:08
ballHappy Monday.21:39
diddledanmapps: yeah afaiui restarting just ssh should be enough22:17
mappsyea thats what i thought hmm weird22:18
diddledanone thing that does annoy me on more recent ubuntu's (server) is the networking service tells you that it doesn't do what you expect anymore22:20
diddledanwhen hitting it with the "restart" flag22:20
diddledanin older ubuntus /etc/init.d/networking restart did just that and everything was great, but now it doesn't?22:20
diddledanit's not a case of /etc/init.d/networking vs "service networking" either22:20
diddledanit just flat out tells you that it isn't what you want and that you should reboot instead22:21
diddledanI don't like server distros insisting that I reboot for everything. I dislike it on desktop, too.22:22
diddledaneg. on desktop, why should I reboot to apply an X11 fix?!22:22
diddledansurely just restarting lightdm would be enough, no?22:22
diddledanone of the reasons I used to love linux was that I didn't have to reboot after every patch. seems ubuntu, and probably other distros are trying very hard to be "just like the redmond os"22:25
mappsyea22:25
mappsthats the thing diddledan  i found that22:26
diddledanto the point of replicating the bad experiences of that redmond os22:26
mappsif i lose connection i cant restart my networking you HAVE to restart?22:26
mappsis there no workaround like ifconfig wlan0 down or whatever and forcing it?22:26
mappsi couldnt see how;/22:26
mappshmm23:04
mappsdidnt come back this time23:04
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