[00:00] <SergeyServer> kostkon: I copied dll files to folder where launcher.exe is, then I try 'wine launcher' and still same mistake
[00:00] <svetoslav> the_stuntman, can you purge all of the mysql packages you have and start over?
[00:00] <cuete_> svetoslav, how would I check the drivers?
[00:00] <SergeyServer> kostkon: hold on a sec, I think I found my mistake
[00:01] <kostkon> SergeyServer, did you wine them, i.e. ran wine xxx.dll
[00:01] <the_stuntman> svetoslav err.. I've never had to do that before, would you mind handing me a command?
[00:01] <evilytwisted> Hi, I have sound problem. Im using 2 monitors, 1 via vga, 1 via hdmi. the sound should be coming through the hdmi. the sound bar picks up my card and the fact it is using hdmi.. the sound notifcationg thingy.. goes up and down verifying there is indeed sound.. I have pauvucontrol....
[00:01] <SergeyServer> no
[00:01] <svetoslav> cuete_, look at the System Settings -> Additional Drivers and try to find the right driver you need to use
[00:02] <evilytwisted> would any of you have any idea how to fix this?
[00:02] <svetoslav> Can anyone tell me how to doungrade from PHP 5.5. to PHP 5.3 ?
[00:02] <cuete_> svetoslav, I can't get to the desktop/gui
[00:02] <svetoslav> downgrade
[00:02] <svetoslav> cuete_, oh ...
[00:02] <svetoslav> cuete_, i thought you managed to get to the GUI
[00:03] <cuete_> svetoslav, I can only get to the recovery menu.
[00:03] <cuete_> I'm able to do stuff in command line though.
[00:04] <the_stuntman> uhg wtf is going on with this server.. -.-
[00:04] <svetoslav> cuete_, can you start previous version of your distribution?
[00:04] <bonafide> How can I pair my Wiimote in Ubuntu 12.04.4 as a HID? I always get meaningless errormessage. Something like "could not pair". Is there a hciconfig solution for thisß
[00:04] <bonafide> ?
[00:04] <cuete_> svetoslav: there are two versions, 3.11, and 3.18. Should I go to the 3.11?
[00:04] <SergeyServer> kostkon: I think my vb60run5 didn't got installed..
[00:05] <kostkon> SergeyServer, ok
[00:05] <zioper> Hi guys. I'm a newbie in ubuntu and i got a question. I have got an Asus u40sd with two graphic cards. One intel one nvidia. How do i get them both running ? I've installed bumblebee. Is that enough ?
[00:05] <svetoslav> cuete_, yes, go to 3.11 and see what happens
[00:05] <SergeyServer> kostkon: trollserv@trollserv-System-Product-Name:~$ remy@remy-laptop:~$ wine VBRun60sp5.exe
[00:05] <SergeyServer> remy@remy-laptop:~$: command not found
[00:05] <SergeyServer> oops
[00:06] <SergeyServer> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\VBRun60sp5.exe"
[00:06] <the_stuntman> ok its starting to look like maybe mariadb did not remove correctly..
[00:06] <cuete_> svetoslav: its hanging on "Loading initial ramdisk ..."
[00:07] <cuete_> system is unresponsive
[00:07] <svetoslav> cuete_ I really don't know how to help on this.
[00:08] <cuete_> svetoslav: thanks for your help anyways!! :)
[00:08] <svetoslav> cuete_, sorry buddy!
[00:08] <bonafide> How can I pair my Wiimote in Ubuntu 12.04.4 as a HID? I always get meaningless errormessage. Something like "could not pair". Is there a hciconfig solution for thisß
[00:08] <bonafide> ?
[00:08] <SergeyServer> kostkon: wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\VBRun60sp5.exe"
[00:08] <SergeyServer> kostkon: plz I'm sure we are very close to fix it..
[00:12] <kostkon> SergeyServer, no idea, you could put the stealth folder into your program files folder, ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[00:17] <cuete_> I'm having an issue with xorg on a quad core Acer Aspire E1-510-4487. can anyone help?
[00:18] <bblindy> we can try :)
[00:18] <bblindy> what's the issue?
[00:18] <cuete_> I can't access the desktop/gui, but I am able to get to the recovery menu.
[00:19] <cuete_> If I let the hard drive boot into the ubuntu I have installed, I can hear the logon drums, but theres no output to the screen.
[00:19] <stunts513> could someone help me figure out why the disabling touchpad while typing is not working?
[00:19] <Aquais94> I downloaded source code
[00:19] <Aquais94> and I don't know where, *About this Computer source is at
[00:20] <Seranok> i have a cron script in /etc/cron.hourly but when i execute "run-parts -v /etc/cron.hourly" nothing is printed to output and the script doesn't appear to run
[00:22] <Seranok> how do i debug this? i have already spent a couple of hours googling to no avail
[00:22] <cuete_> bblindy: when I run startx from the root terminal option it says "Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX1-lock
[00:25] <bonafide> How can I pair my Wiimote in Ubuntu 12.04.4 as a HID? I always get meaningless errormessage. Something like "could not pair". Is there a hciconfig solution for this?
[00:25] <Beldar> stunts513, On my acer it has it's own key lock, on my toshiba I use a 3rd party in the gnome shell, there is a 3rd party for unity.
[00:26] <stunts513> Beldar:ah interesting, i checked if off in unities settings but it doesn't do anything, i know it uses a synaptics driver il have to look into 3rd party things then
[00:32] <funyun> hi. is ubuntu a lot heavier than debian?
[00:32] <funyun> i mean does it use a LOT more resources?
[00:33] <Marcos60001> Funyun: I dont think so
[00:33] <arseoinc> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_linux_ubuntu1404&num=1
[00:33] <funyun> Marcos60001: cool. thanks
[00:33] <funyun> arseoinc: exactly what i needed. thank you :)
[00:34] <stunts513> weird i launched syndaemon manually and it works just fine....
[00:34] <Marcos60001> funyun:  feel free to install it, it's not much heavier
[00:35] <violinuxer> funyun: depends on what you install. I've gotten the latest version of ubuntu into 128mb of ram, just with very little software
[00:35] <violinuxer> same would apply to debian
[00:35] <Marcos60001> Funyun: what violinuxer said
[00:35] <violinuxer> that was a fun project btw, took about 4 hours to install
[00:36] <violinuxer> minimal disk, became a quick and dirty dumb serial terminal
[00:37] <violinuxer> if you want lightweight, lookup Lubuntu... LXDE is a lot faster than default ubuntu
[00:38] <funyun> gotcha. what software would you guys recommend for remote access? i would like to have remote access to an ubuntu server from my mac
[00:39] <violinuxer> graphical, for personal use? Teamviewer. Command line? ssh.
[00:39] <violinuxer> server: SSH
[00:39] <funyun> awesome. didn't know TV was supported by linux. thanks for all the help
[00:40] <violinuxer> take the time to generate a keypair (look it up). makes it much more secure.
[00:40] <funyun> will do
[00:40] <violinuxer> funyun: darn it, my tv itself runs linux :)
[00:41] <violinuxer> funyun: whops. thought you meant television :)
[00:41] <funyun> haha
[00:41] <violinuxer> download the .deb file from teamviewer, not ubuntu
[00:41] <violinuxer> MUCh more up to date
[00:42] <funyun> so for ubuntu, is that usually the case? better to install the .deb than doing apt-get install?
[00:43] <Marcos60001> Funyun: ubuntu repositories don't always have updated versions of apps
[00:43] <geekgonecrazy> Looking to intercept or handle a logout event from a manually started gnome-session.  Anyone familiar with such?
[00:43] <funyun> i see
[00:45] <Marcos60001> Funyun:  the terminal is good for installing certain apps, .deb  files are better for GUI installation
[00:46] <Marcos60001> Funyun: the terminal is especially better when you need to install separate libraries
[00:47] <funyun> Marcos60001: cool i understand now. thanks
[00:47] <violinuxer> Marcos60001: I find that it's a LOT faster
[00:48] <DarkAceXtreme> is there a way to set the background via commandline?
[00:48] <DarkAceXtreme> gnome
[00:48] <Marcos60001> Violinuxer: i agree with you. Unless you don't know package names
[00:48] <redlabel> there is not too many people connected where is everyone?
[00:49] <usr13> funyun: It's not usually better, sometimes it...
[00:49] <usr13> funyun: ... don't want you to get the wrong idea ....
[00:50] <redlabel> why IRC anyways?
[00:50] <Seranok> is there something which causes this cron script to not be run? http://pastebin.com/39n8A5nh
[00:50] <funyun> usr13: gotcha
[00:52] <violinuxer> Marcos60001: If you've almost got it, tab complete is GREAT :)
[00:53] <redlabel> hello
[01:01] <usr13> funyun: There are a number of issues at play.  Going with the package management system is usually best.  Only under certain circumstances should you deviate, (and such circumstances are rare).   Even if you find a slightly newer package in a .deb, it may be better to stick with the one from the package manager.  For one thing, the ones installed by the package manager will (almost always) be updated, (you'll be notified in the event a newer version has been r
[01:02] <diego1> did anybody installed fortune phrases at terminal login ?
[01:04] <usr13> funyun: There are over 30,000 packages in the normal / authorized repositories,  so please *search* for an official package before installing things in other ways.
[01:08] <michael_j_p> DrGrov why don't you just go to Ubuntu 12.04 - it's the supported version
[01:09] <nsh> has ubuntu changed repo signing keys or something?
[01:10] <usr13> nsh: I don't think so.  Why do you ask?
[01:10] <nsh> getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" for standard packages
[01:10] <nsh> (e.g. linux-headers, libc, apache2-*)
[01:10] <usr13> nsh: date
[01:10] <nsh> haven't messed with sources lately and can't think of anything else that might have caused it
[01:10] <nsh> ntpd is running and date looks right
[01:11] <usr13> nsh: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[01:11] <nsh> 12.04.4 LTS
[01:11] <usr13> nsh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:13] <nsh> this came up, which might explain it: linux-signed-generic-lts-raring
[01:14] <nsh> no complaints about authentication now, anyway. vive le mysterie
[01:16] <Bashing-om> nsh: "the following packages are held back" ??
[01:16] <mttc> hello everyone. i need some help here. i made some .img file backups of some hds for backup purposes with dd and for some reason i'm unable to mount them anymore. the were working fine before with -t auto and a loop offset. not it's saying must specify filesystem. i was reading that it might not be seeing the /etc/filesystems folder.
[01:16] <mttc> no clue why this stopped working.
[01:16] <nsh> oh, right:
[01:16] <nsh> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:16] <nsh>   linux-headers-generic-lts-raring linux-image-generic-lts-raring
[01:16] <nsh>   linux-signed-image-generic-lts-raring
[01:18] <Datz> Hi, I keep getting crashes everytime I try to install something.
[01:19] <Konata> Datz, what do you mean crashes
[01:19] <Datz> I had some bad RAM, but that wasn't the problem apparently
[01:19] <Datz> I took a picture of the calltrace: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgq9m7czqbrap6c/2014-03-09%2016.43.46.jpg
[01:19] <Konata> Perfect
[01:19] <Datz> this is lubuntu btw, but everyone seems pretty idle in there
[01:19] <Bashing-om> nsh:  usr13 : While I have nothing better to do -> do also: terminal command -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- to install the images.
[01:19] <pi_____> doing backup with dd and doing mount from it is no problem
[01:20] <Mastablasta> Hi there, Does anyone know if there is an upgrade or mod out there for the Ubuntu Linux  bootloader that will let you boot from cd or usb
[01:20] <Datz> I think that unless something is being installed with the package manager, everything is fine.
[01:20] <usr13> nsh: cat /etc/issue
[01:20] <Konata> Datz, so you're saying that installing from gui works
[01:20] <Konata> but installing from terminal causes a kernel panic?
[01:20] <nsh> issue: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[01:20] <mttc> so i use: sudo mount -t auto -o loop,offset=address /imgfile /mnt/
[01:20] <macoymae> hi guys im new in linux can you please teach me how to get arround
[01:20] <usr13> nsh: Try Bashing-om's suggestion...
[01:20] <Datz> Konata: I think terminal, or gui package manager does the same ting
[01:20] <mttc> but i get must specify a file system.
[01:21] <Datz> I think it'
[01:22] <usr13> Datz: Correct
[01:22] <usr13> mttc: So, what filesystem is it?
[01:22] <mttc> it was made in OSX so i'm thinking it's hfs or hfs+.
[01:22] <mttc> but it is just not working.
[01:23] <usr13> mttc: Is it an iso image?
[01:23] <mttc> no.
[01:23] <mttc> .img file made with dd.
[01:23] <usr13> mttc:  leave out the  "-t auto" part.
[01:23] <mttc> same thing.
[01:24] <usr13> mttc: file imgfile   #What does that say?
[01:24] <Muggle> Hi guys, does anyone recognize this window manager?
[01:24] <Muggle> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiPTqARCAAAwHlG.png
[01:24] <mttc> i didn't understand that last one usr13
[01:25] <mttc> you want me to type file imgfile in terminal?
[01:25] <usr13> !info blender | Muggle
[01:26] <Muggle> ...
[01:26] <rww> usr13: erm?
[01:26] <Muggle> window manager
[01:26] <Muggle> not software
[01:26] <mttc> it was working perfectly last night.
[01:26] <usr13> Muggle:  Looks like all we are seeing is the package manager in that image.
[01:26] <mttc> something changed. but i have no idea what.
[01:26] <cuete_> hi, can anyone help me out with xorg server not running on an Acer Aspire One E-1-510-4487?
[01:27] <mttc> what would cause the the -t auto to stop working? are there any packages i can reinstall?
[01:27] <Muggle> usr13: pretty sure there is a window with files, I know it's ubuntu gnome and the file manager is pcman but I don't know the wm
[01:27] <mttc> could it be it's not seeing the list of auto filesystems anymore?
[01:28] <mttc> another weird thing. in Disk Utility i have 19gb root.disk file. wtf is that?
[01:28] <Mastablasta> Does anyone have suggestion for a linux bootloader besides the one that comes with ubuntu so you can load usb or cd or dvd
[01:30] <cuete_> hi, can anyone help me out with xorg server not running on an Acer Aspire One E-1-510-4487?
[01:32] <cuete_> hi, can anyone help me out with xorg server not running on an Acer Aspire One E-1-510-4487?
[01:32] <Puritanick> REPENT!
[01:33]  * Puritanick ducks
[01:33]  * cuete_ limbos, Matrix-style
[01:33] <pi_____> cuete_: do reinstall
[01:33] <cuete_> I can't.
[01:34] <pi_____> cuete_: why?
[01:34] <cuete_> When I try to "install ubuntu", the screen goes black.
[01:34] <pi_____> cuete_: why?
[01:34] <cuete_> I've tried six separate installs of ubuntu with 3 separate thumbdrive installers.
[01:34] <rww> pi_____: I expect that's what they're in here asking.
[01:35] <cuete_> unetbootin, yumi, and rufus
[01:35] <usr13> Muggle ls -l  /usr/share/xsessions/   #Will show Desktop Environments, (which will give a clue).
[01:35] <violinuxer> cuete: could you try an alternate installer cd?
[01:35] <Mastablasta> maybe ur bios settings are off or hardware issue
[01:35] <pi_____> cuete_: do normal instalation or reinstalation
[01:35] <usr13> Mastablasta: What is wrong with grub?
[01:36] <cuete_> pi____ I'll see what I can do.
[01:36] <violinuxer> Mastablasta: do you use uefi?
[01:36] <Mastablasta> Usr13: I like grub but I have not seen how to load usb or cd or dvd off of it and yeah I use uefi
[01:36] <usr13> cuete_: Are you doint an install?
[01:36] <pi_____> cuete_: you see will see now, after year, five years or fifty years
[01:37] <violinuxer> loading from a cd or usb is not done by grub, its done by the computer's firmware (or if it's older, bios)
[01:37] <usr13> Mastablasta: grub will boot usb or cd or dvd
[01:37] <cuete_> pi____ I don't understand.
[01:37] <violinuxer> whoops... corrected to the max... usr13: how do you do that?!?!
[01:37] <cuete_> usr13: I've installed the system, I just can't get xorg to work.
[01:37] <Mastablasta> usr13: I havent seen it in the bootloader menu anywhere on mine
[01:37] <usr13> Mastablasta: We are not sure what it is that you are really trying to do.
[01:37] <rww> !behelpful | pi_____
[01:38] <Mastablasta> usr13: I am trying to load mac osx image through grub bootloader on usb
[01:38] <pi_____> cuete_:  simply, do normal reinstal with cd for example or usb
[01:38] <rww> pi_____: they already told you that doesn't work
[01:38] <usr13> Mastablasta: As violinuxer points out, when you decide to boot from a USB or CD or DVD, it's a function of the PC's bios
[01:39] <Richhh> possible in linux to unrar a .rar file compressed on windows?
[01:39] <crunchbang> does anyone know of radeon driver issues where it causes part of the screen to flicker? it's as if the screen wont render and parts are lost for a few seconds.
[01:39] <violinuxer> _cuete: what
[01:39] <Richhh> trying and getting Failed for all files, extractor gets the directories but not files
[01:39] <BlackoutIsHere> Richhh, yes, apt-get install unrar
[01:39] <violinuxer> *what is the computer model?
[01:39] <crunchbang> it follows me with various DE's and WM's
[01:39] <cuete_> pi____ when trying to install/reinstall, I'm unable to.
[01:39] <crunchbang> so it's not them
[01:40] <Mastablasta> usr13: oh ok thanks you guys dinosaur pc then I guess so got to load straight from bios
[01:40] <violinuxer> cuete: so give it a try with the alternate cd. often it can be a bit more reliable (doesn't mess with graphics)
[01:40] <cuete_> violinuxer: I'm using a thumbdrive. should I go for a CD instead?
[01:40] <pi_____> cuete_: its not problem o cd or xorg
[01:40] <pi_____> of cd
[01:40] <Puritanick> !stats
[01:41] <Richhh> BlackoutIsHere:  Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:41] <Richhh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:41] <Richhh> is only available from another source
[01:41] <Richhh> E: Package 'unrar' has no installation candidate
[01:41] <Richhh> but I alreayd have unrar
[01:41] <violinuxer> Mastablasta: what's your current os?
[01:41] <Mastablasta> violinuxer 13.10
[01:42] <Mastablasta> This is not a uefi mobo tho my other one is
[01:42] <Richhh> unrar file.rar   reports Failed on all files
[01:42] <violinuxer> Mastablasta: have you installed via usb in the past?
[01:43] <Mastablasta> violinuxer: yeah
[01:43] <mttc> anyone know what might be messing up the auto mounter in ubuntu?
[01:43] <cuete_> so... should I install it from CD?
[01:43] <mttc> how can i fix it?
[01:43] <violinuxer> mttc: any error messages?
[01:43] <pi_____> cuete_: why not?
[01:43] <Mastablasta> violinuxer: but not through grub through clover mac osx boot loader or chameleon
[01:43] <mttc> you must spefify the filesystem type.
[01:43] <violinuxer> Mastablasta: then usb should be fine
[01:44] <violinuxer> wait... this is a mac?
[01:44] <crunchbang> anyone?
[01:44] <mttc> but it's never asked me for it before.
[01:44] <cuete_> pi____ I don't have access to a CD
[01:44] <violinuxer> is this something you've put in /etc/fstab?
[01:44] <glitchd> hello everyone
[01:44] <pi_____> cuete_: so, then, go to the ...... for example, windows
[01:44] <linux> hello
[01:45] <mttc> violinuxer was that last one directed at me?
[01:45] <glitchd> can i ask a question regarding xubuntu 13.10?
[01:45] <cuete_> pi____ I'm not following.
[01:45] <violinuxer> mttc: with regard to fstab, yes
[01:45] <Mastablasta> violinuxer: not technically a real mac no lol hackintosh
[01:45] <crunchbang> what's up glitchd
[01:45] <pi_____> cuete_: you do blaboling
[01:46] <mttc> i didn't put anything in fstab? is that where the os stores auto mount info?
[01:46] <violinuxer> okay then. CD is more reliable, but usb should work. As soon as your comp boots, mash the f keys like your life depends on it :)
[01:46] <violinuxer> that was for Mastablasta
[01:46] <Richhh> can anyone help?  still not able to unrar files compressed on windows and sent to me
[01:46] <Mastablasta> oh ok lol
[01:46] <mttc> i have fstab and fstab.d in etc.
[01:46] <glitchd> crunchbang, im not sure what the problems is, but im getting horrible sound quality thru my headphones and thru the speakers and im just trying to figure out why. this is a brand new hp probook 4540s
[01:47] <Mastablasta> is it f10 or f 8 i forget lol
[01:47] <cuete_> what is blaboling lol?
[01:47] <crunchbang> Richhh, you install 7zip? also. what shows in terminal when you do it fgrom there
[01:47] <violinuxer> Mastablasta: just hit them all... worst thing you probably could do is open up the bios config
[01:48] <crunchbang> chk to see if pulseaudio is installed
[01:48] <glitchd> crunchbang, how?
[01:48] <glitchd> crunchbang, i believe i have alsa installed
[01:48] <violinuxer> mttc: is it a flashdrive? hdd? is it new hardware?
[01:48] <crunchbang> open  a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pulseaudio. glitchd
[01:48] <glitchd> crunchbang, but i could be wrong
[01:48] <mttc> it's a .img file created with dd.
[01:49] <mttc> i have several. all of them were mounting last night.
[01:49] <mttc> with mount -t auto.
[01:49] <crunchbang> glitchd, alsa is a base layer. pulse runs atop of it to add features
[01:49] <mttc> today it's asking for a specify the filesystem.
[01:49] <mttc> i'm guessing something in the OS got messed up.
[01:49] <Richhh> crunchbang: trying with unrar, says Failed on every file
[01:49] <mttc> but i'm not sure where or what -t auto is looking for.
[01:49] <glitchd> crunchbang, can i pm u the results of the command?
[01:49] <Richhh> crunchbang: don't have 7zip
[01:50] <crunchbang> glitchd, use pastebin
[01:50] <violinuxer> what is the FS?
[01:50] <crunchbang> !pastebin glitchd
[01:50] <mttc> i have no idea.
[01:50] <glitchd> crunchbang, mmk
[01:50] <crunchbang> mmmm... didn't wrk
[01:51] <mttc> one was NTFS -t ntfs doesn't work.
[01:51] <mttc> i don't know what this pos is doing.
[01:51] <violinuxer> mttc going to open a /query. is that okay?
[01:51] <crunchbang> !#pastebin glitchd
[01:51] <glitchd> crunchbang, http://pastie.org/8902186
[01:51] <mttc> what's that?
[01:51] <crunchbang> thx
[01:51] <mttc> a /query?
[01:52] <crunchbang> glitchd, what sound card do you have
[01:52] <glitchd> crunchbang, 1 sec ill find out
[01:53] <jarred> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 AMD64 on a 20 GB partition on a USB 3.0 external hard-drive. I'm running a Macbook Pro Retina (Summer 2012). It appears to have installed successfully, however it does not show up as something I can boot to when I hold ALT during bootup (with the hard-disk plugged in and on). What are the next steps to debug this?
[01:53] <crunchbang> lspci sound i think is the command
[01:53] <crunchbang> I could be wrong
[01:54] <glitchd> crunchbang, http://pastie.org/8902188
[01:56] <crunchbang> glitchd, mmmm.... what kinda issue exactly are you having? just crap sound or jittery sound. What?
[01:56] <glitchd> crunchbang, crap sound. sound is kind echo-ie, kinda sounds like im in a tunnel
[01:58] <Hornet> hi; having massive issues installing a 12.04 server, currently in rescue mode trying to assemble raid and failing
[01:58] <crunchbang> mmmm...you could try and remove pulseaudio.
[01:58] <Hornet> but the issue is grub failed to install
[01:58] <Hornet> and that meant the reboot hosed
[01:58] <crunchbang> see if alsa alone works fine
[01:59] <crunchbang> glitchd, sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio && sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:00] <crunchbang> glitchd, make sure you read what pkgs are lost just in case you need to reinstall a prog later on
[02:00] <glitchd> i remove pulse before and it jsut royally fucked things up
[02:01] <crunchbang> glitchd, ok. welp...i'm outta ideas
[02:02] <glitchd> thx crunchbang
[02:03] <crunchbang> does anyone know of radeon driver issues where it causes part of the screen to flicker? it's as if the screen wont render and parts are lost for a few seconds.
[02:04] <Richhh> crunchbang: p7zip -d file.rar   shows   /usr/bin/p7zip: file.rar: unknown suffix -- ignored
[02:04] <Richhh> crunchbang: file
[02:05] <crunchbang> Richhh, in the terminal type 7z x fileName
[02:05] <Richhh> crunchbang: file file.rar shows     file.rar: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32
[02:05] <Richhh> 7z: command not found
[02:06] <bg4prez> I have some issues with boot after I installed ubuntu, ubuntu is installed, but disk boot failure ( test version of ubuntu works ) - This is a picture of the bootscreen http://imgur.com/RFJrtJj - Ive tryed to reset the bios
[02:06] <bg4prez> version: 12.0
[02:06] <crunchbang> do u have synaptic installed? Richhh
[02:06] <Richhh> yes
[02:06] <bray90820> Is there an open source replacement for flash player?
[02:07] <crunchbang> Richhh, pls open it up and type in 7zip for the search.
[02:07] <somsip> !info gnash | bray90820
[02:07] <crunchbang> what's it show?
[02:07] <mtoroyarzo> bray90820: gnash
[02:07] <Hornet> bray90820: gnash is however pretty useless
[02:08] <Hornet> YMMV of course
[02:08] <bray90820> Why is it useless
[02:08] <Hornet> imagine a car with square wheels
[02:08] <Hornet> works but doesn't
[02:08] <bray90820> Hornet: how so
[02:09] <crunchbang> Richhh, my mistake. p7zip-=rar
[02:09] <crunchbang> what's it show
[02:09] <crunchbang> Richhh, my mistake. p7zip-rar
[02:09] <Richhh> p7zip-rar command not found
[02:10] <crunchbang> Richhh, in synaptic p7zip-rar isn't there?
[02:10] <Richhh> oh
[02:10] <bray90820> I am basically looking for a version of the flash player that will work with my netbook
[02:10] <cuete_> hi, so I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10, and I can get to the grub bootloader just find. When I choose to install ubuntu, it goes to a black screen. A few seconds later, I hear the ubuntu login drums.
[02:10] <bray90820> I had one before i had to reinstall ubuntu
[02:11] <Richhh> crunchbang: I only see p7zip-full as a result
[02:11] <Bashing-om> bg4prez: Looks like bios can not find a boot loader to hand off too. Is this boc dual booting with Windows? is UEFI a factor ?
[02:12] <staticwarp> hi guys, what is the smallest version of lubuntu? i'm trying to install it alongside windows 8, and the 13.10 iso is taking forever to download. i'm wondering if theres a smaller option. i've got an amd 14-4500 laptop with 4gb of ram.
[02:12] <crunchbang> Richhh, mmmk... please do this for me. mack a file with touch and addd text to the file. then type 7z a -mx=9 fileName.7z fileNale
[02:12] <Puritanick> hahah puny mortals
[02:12] <kristenbb> hi, I have 12.04, and I've just updated some packages, and since then, I can't log in to ubuntu 3d, even if I choose 3d on the log in screen. What to do ?
[02:12] <crunchbang> Richhh, then type 7z x fileName.7z
[02:12]  * cuete_ conjures up some black magick.
[02:13] <Stanley00> staticwarp: what do you mean by download the iso while installing? I think you must download the iso, burn it to cd/usb, and then boot to it to install?
[02:13] <macoymae> how to change ubuntu themes thanks
[02:13] <crunchbang> Richhh, does it extract the 7z file?
[02:13] <Carlitos__> alguien  que  se  php ?
[02:13] <cuete_> macoymae: System settings, top right hand corner.
[02:13] <cuete_> Should be under themes.
[02:13] <Stanley00> macoymae: you can use unity-tweak, or gnome tweak, but I don't recommend to change the theme :D
[02:13] <Bashing-om> staticwarp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall (???) .
[02:13] <Richhh> 7z command not found
[02:13] <Richhh> crunchbang:
[02:14] <cuete_> hi, so I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10, and I can get to the grub bootloader just find. When I choose to install ubuntu, it goes to a black screen. A few seconds later, I hear the ubuntu login drums.
[02:14] <macoymae> i want to install good themes were can i find some
[02:14] <staticwarp> sorry if i was unclear, i'm downloading the lubuntu 13.10 iso now, i'm going to install it once i get it onto a dvd. i'm looking for a stripped down version if possible, something that's not going to take ages on this crappy internet connection.
[02:15] <macoymae> thanks for the help cuete
[02:15] <crunchbang> Richhh, you're kidding???
[02:15] <staticwarp> Bashing-om: thanks, i will read up on the minimal install and see if it will work for me :)
[02:15] <crunchbang> Richhh, XD
[02:15] <cuete_> macoymae: no problem
[02:15] <crunchbang> Richhh, I'm doing it fine here and it's not for you?
[02:15] <crunchbang> Richhh, ok.
[02:16] <Bashing-om> staticwarp: That is a core install, you are expected to know what else is to be installed to make your system your own.
[02:16] <SmashStack> how do you set the font for the virtual console (TTYx) on startup?
[02:16] <crunchbang> Richhh, lemme see from my end what the other command is
[02:16] <Puritanick> #crunchbang
[02:16] <Richhh> crunchbang: I'm trying unrar-free and p7zip-full now
[02:16] <kristenbb> hi, I have 12.04, and I've just updated some packages, and since then, I can't log in to ubuntu 3d, even if I choose 3d on the log in screen. What to do ?
[02:16] <Richhh> crunchbang: unrar-free failed
[02:17] <Puritanick> richhh you failed the software is always right
[02:17] <cuete_> macoymae: no problem
[02:17] <Stanley00> staticwarp: well, the minimal install will download the package while installing. so I will take time to install too :D
[02:17] <cuete_> hi, so I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10, and I can get to the grub bootloader just find. When I choose to install ubuntu, it goes to a black screen. A few seconds later, I hear the ubuntu login drums.
[02:18] <Richhh> Puritanick: I guess so
[02:18] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: What pops to mind is you have a proprietary graphics driver installed, and it got broke in the update process (??).
[02:18] <Puritanick> Richhh:thats your problem this isnt guess work
[02:19] <Richhh> Puritanick: What's the answer then?
[02:19] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: as far as i know, it didn't break in the upgrade process, but yes I might have a proprietary graphics driver installed
[02:19] <Puritanick> not so fast
[02:19] <crunchbang> Richhh, Hmmmm...would you install squeez for me
[02:20] <crunchbang> it's an xfce archive manager
[02:20] <BrianH> Hey guys, just recently ran updates on 13.10 and now my system keeps dropping to the login screen after idling.  Is this the new lock screen?
[02:20] <BrianH> And by login screen, I mean LightDM.
[02:20] <crunchbang> Richhh, then from there would you run the program for me and see if it unrar's the pkg
[02:20] <staticwarp> Bashing-om: thanks. looks like the minimal install requires a wired connections, which i don't have available right now. guess i'll just be patient and wait XD
[02:20] <Richhh> Today, unrarlib only supports up to version 2 of the RAR file format. Scheurer says he is working on adding support for the newer RAR3 format to unrarlib, but says he is not sure what reaction to expect from RARLAB.
[02:21] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Not saying that is the root of the problem, something to keep in mind. ok, can you boot through "recovery" mode ?
[02:21] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: i can even boot normally, it's just that it falls back to ubuntu 2d
[02:22] <Richhh> ok
[02:23] <crunchbang> Richhh, thx's. pls tell me what happens
[02:24] <BrianH> Oh, nevermind.  I have light-locker installed, haha.  Completely forgot I had that installed, since it never worked before.
[02:24] <Puritanick> the trolls are at it again
[02:25] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: I am still leaning toword the graphics driver, what is loaded and in use?; pastebin => sudo lshw -C display <- maybe relate what is going on.
[02:25] <crunchbang> Richhh, also, did you try unrar e fileName.rar
[02:25] <Hornet> my 12.04 server reboots to black screen after installation, seems to not be on the network
[02:25] <Hornet> help?
[02:26] <Richhh> crunchbang: tried that, can you provide a trustworthy download link for squeez
[02:26] <cuete_> does anyone know how to set grub to nomodeset?
[02:26] <somsip> !nomodeset
[02:26] <somsip> | cuete_
[02:26] <crunchbang> Richhh, It's not in your Synaptic pkg mngr?
[02:27] <crunchbang> Richhh, what about unrar x fileName.rar
[02:27] <crunchbang> Richhh, or does it say command doesn't exist?
[02:27] <Hornet> if I need nomodeset, how can I add it to a server that's already blackscreening?
[02:28] <crunchbang> Hornet, pull the hdd and set into other comp. mount it. then chroot to mthe system
[02:28] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: pastebin.com/aeh3ad7m
[02:28] <Richhh> unrar x file.rar or unrar e file.rar  both fail, squeez is not in the repo
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Hornet: Is your server headless or do you have a monitot attatched as always available ? - Graphics driver loaded ?
[02:29] <crunchbang> Richhh, Jeez louise bro. What doo you have???
[02:29] <pothos> Alguém aí fala português?
[02:29] <rww> !pt
[02:29] <Bashing-om>  kristenbb: looking at /aeh3ad7m .
[02:29] <Hornet> crunchbang, no other working comp available
[02:29] <Hornet> Bashing-om, it's headless normally but I have a monitor on it atm
[02:29] <Hornet> as I'm re-re-re-re-re-installing
[02:29] <crunchbang> Richhh, alright, give me a sec to find a ppa for xfce4
[02:30] <linuxlite> hello
[02:30] <crunchbang> Hornet, can you accesss the grub to select safe boot?
[02:31] <crunchbang> Richhh, sorry, this is for xubuntu correct?
[02:31] <Hornet> crunchbang, no
[02:31] <Richhh> crunchbang:  lubuntu
[02:31] <Hornet> looks like it just rebooted with the memory stick in though and I do seem to be at a prompt
[02:31] <Hornet> not that it'll let me log in
[02:31] <crunchbang> Richhh, lubuntu, excuse me. =p
[02:31] <Hornet> so looks like it might be a booting issue rather than gfx etc
[02:33] <crunchbang> Richhh,   sudo add-apt ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12 && sudo apt-get update
[02:33] <Hornet> can ssh remotely, but can't log in
[02:33] <Hornet> no idea what user it wants
[02:33] <crunchbang> Richhh, Should work fine
[02:33] <Hornet> sigh
[02:34] <Hornet> reinstall yet again?
[02:34] <Puritanick> does it work from live cd?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: "pastebin.com/aeh3ad7" -> I get this pafte has been removed, try again.
[02:34] <Hornet> live usb, yes
[02:34] <Hornet> no cd drive
[02:34] <Richhh> crunchbang: add-apt command not found
[02:34] <Hornet> at the moment it's gone through whatever the default option is
[02:35] <Puritanick> Hornet:your HDD is broken
[02:35] <Hornet> looks like ssh is up but not using the server's config
[02:35] <Hornet> the hdds are fine
[02:35] <crunchbang> Richhh, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:35] <Hornet> partitions on the other hand, god knows
[02:35] <Hornet> grub tried to autoinstall on sda
[02:35] <Hornet> which is in the raid array
[02:35] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: pastebin.com/mPhnXUuk
[02:35] <Hornet> sde it would have worked on
[02:35] <IdleOne> Richhh: crunchbang the command is add-apt-repository
[02:35] <Hornet> but I couldnnt manually control that
[02:36] <Wiky> I installed Steam but cannot run it in Ubuntu 13.10. And this is the terminal output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7065334/
[02:36] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Looking at pastebin.com/mPhnXUu .
[02:36] <crunchbang> Richhh, IdleOne Blarg, sorry, I set my sys to that.... My error
[02:36] <crunchbang> hhjgyfhjkfdxfghjhgfdf
[02:37] <crunchbang> IdleOne, thx
[02:38] <crunchbang> ANYWAY, Richhh When that's added try n install squeeze
[02:38] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: ->http://pastebin.com/mPhnXUu ->This paste has been removed!// I do not know what to say or do .
[02:38] <crunchbang> Richhh, then open the prog and see if it extracts the file
[02:38] <Richhh> crunchbang: is it squeez or squeeze ?
[02:38] <crunchbang> squeeze
[02:39] <crunchbang> just get it from synaptic
[02:39] <crunchbang> hella better than term for getting pkgs
[02:39] <Puritanick> what is squeeze?
[02:39] <Richhh> I don't see squeeze in the repo
[02:40] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: neither as been removed, I can access them just fine, and I might add that the first one, you didn't spell correctly, you forgot the m at the end
[02:40] <Richhh> closest is xcp-squeezed
[02:40] <crunchbang> Richhh, pls tell me you're jokeing
[02:40] <Richhh> also unar shows up
[02:40] <crunchbang> Richhh, ok
[02:40] <Puritanick> Richhh: whats are yoy trying to do?
[02:40] <crunchbang> Richhh, use that then
[02:41] <Puritanick> you cant even unrara one damn file?
[02:41] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: I even tried accessing them from another computer, it works. How are you trying to access it ?!
[02:41] <Richhh> Puritanick: correct
[02:41] <Puritanick> well linux isnt for you then
[02:42] <crunchbang> Richhh, I seriously don't get why lubuntu doesm't have a simple feature like that
[02:42] <Richhh> Puritanick: unar worked
[02:42] <IdleOne> Puritanick: please be helpful
[02:42] <rww> Puritanick: if you're going to help in #ubuntu, please actually be helpful.
[02:42] <rww> o hai IdleOne
[02:42] <Richhh> crunchbang: unar worked
[02:42] <crunchbang> Richhh, YAAAAAYYYYYYY
[02:42] <Richhh> :P
[02:42] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Ok, I'll try again.
[02:42] <crunchbang> Richhh, FINALLY SOMETHING WRKS IN LUBUNTU
[02:43] <crunchbang> Richhh, Glad I could hlp
[02:43] <crunchbang> =]
[02:43] <Puritanick> 2 trolls
[02:43] <Richhh> crunchbang: thanks
[02:43] <Richhh> :)
[02:43] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: you forgot the last letter twice, the second one is also mispelled, you forgot the last letter. But why dont you just copy and paste instead of trying to copy the url ?
[02:43] <anonares> #anonops
[02:43] <IdleOne> Puritanick: You know better then to make these off topic and unhelpful comments. Please stop
[02:44] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Got it, do not know what my problem was ! looking.
[02:44] <Puritanick> ban me i know you wanna
[02:44] <crunchbang> np Richhh It was fun...kinda...who am I kidding. that sucked. I suggest a diff os from lubu if it cn't even unrar a file
[02:44] <Richhh> crunchbang: well at least I know now
[02:44] <Richhh> crunchbang: but there are some other irritating things about it, gonna upgrade my pc shortly
[02:44] <crunchbang> XD True dat
[02:45] <crunchbang> Richhh, Ahhh, coolio
[02:45] <SmashStack> I have a setterm command and a setfont command being run in my rc.local file. I know the commands are getting executed (verbose output sent to a log file), but the effects of them are getting reset when the TTY login screen shows up. Why is this and how can I fix it/get around it?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: "RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3410/3430]" there is no longer fglrx support for that card, after 12.04.1, all that you can safely use is the opensource driver -works great, I am in the same boat with my ATI card.
[02:47] <crunchbang> does anyone know of radeon driver issues where it causes part of the screen to flicker? it's as if the screen wont render and parts are lost for a few seconds.
[02:48] <Hornet> okay, the plot thickens - the server works when the usb stick is in, but I can't log in (user/password incorrect)
[02:48] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: but it worked fine before, and now I'm falling back to ubuntu 2d. How can I go back to ubuntu 3d ?
[02:48] <Hornet> without it, black screen on boot
[02:48] <unknown__> hi
[02:48] <crunchbang> Richhh, just for giggles, what does man 7z show in the terminal
[02:48] <crunchbang> ?
[02:49] <unknown__> who is here
[02:49] <Hornet> unknown__, the blind leading the blinder
[02:49] <SmashStack> "when the blind leadeth the blind, get out of the way"
[02:50] <unknown__> how many people r here
[02:50] <Hornet> 1529
[02:50] <SmashStack> 1529
[02:50] <Puritanick> 1529
[02:50] <crunchbang> 1529
[02:50] <Hornet> (\/)
[02:50] <Hornet> that's numberwang
[02:50] <Hornet> and so forth
[02:50] <Puritanick> well at least 4
[02:50] <Puritanick> with you 5
[02:50] <Puritanick> + IdleOne
[02:51]  * Hornet is getting crampp kneeling by this server
[02:51] <Hornet> assistance would be much appreciated
[02:51] <Puritanick> Hornet: pray
[02:51] <FuuqUmiist> Richhh i think you need unrar the non free version or something
[02:51] <Hornet> been there, done that
[02:51] <SmashStack> Hornet: what is your problem, exactly?
[02:51] <crunchbang> Hornet, i'm outta ideas
[02:51] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: presently you have no driver loaded per that output. from "Additional Drivers" install radeon; mine -> configuration: driver=radeon latency=0 .
[02:51] <Richhh> crunchbang: man 7z shows the 7z man page no problem
[02:52] <FuuqUmiist> or maybe just use a windows computer to extract the file heh
[02:52] <Hornet> SmashStack: server won't boot without the usb stick in; when it does, I can't log in
[02:52] <crunchbang> I need a person to hlp me infact.
[02:52] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: from additional drivers, none is available
[02:52] <Richhh> FuuqUmiist: i tried unrar and unrar-free
[02:52] <SmashStack> any usb stick or just a certain one?
[02:52] <Puritanick> crunchbang: indeed?
[02:52] <crunchbang> Richhh, Well that's just bs.... if 7z pg is fin then why does 7z x fail?
[02:52] <Hornet> SmashStack, probably this particular one,I can try with another though
[02:52] <Puritanick> ask in #debian
[02:52] <Richhh> freedomrun: and p7zip, only unar worked
[02:53] <Hornet> SmashStack: it was the usb stick I installed the OS from, my best guess is that grub latched onto it possibly
[02:53] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: OK, will install frpm terminal, gimme a bit to craft this up.
[02:53] <Richhh> crunchbang: its possible I needed to restart my shell for 7z to work
[02:53] <Richhh> crunchbang: because it seems to run now, I'll try to exctract with it
[02:53] <SmashStack> sounds like it's trying to boot from said USB. Can you boot the machine to the BIOS and set the boot order to boot from the HDD first?
[02:53] <crunchbang> Richhh, ok. it's 7z x fileName.rar
[02:54] <FuuqUmiist> Richhh maybe get the windows version of rar and install it on wine
[02:54] <Richhh> crunchbang: that would extract all the files in the same folder though
[02:54] <Richhh> FuuqUmiist: no matter, unar worked
[02:54] <Hornet> SmashStack: without the USB in though, it won't boot at all
[02:54] <Hornet> but I can try that yes
[02:54] <crunchbang> Richhh, mmm, not if it's just ma file I don't think it will.
[02:55] <Puritanick> FuuqUmiist:thats a wonderfull idea
[02:55] <SmashStack> Hornet: I believe that is a semi-common issue. Let me try my google-fu for a minute. in the meantime, what have you tried so far?
[02:56] <crunchbang> Richhh, If it's a single file then it'll extract normal. if it's folders with sub folders it extracts the sub folders and folders liker a standard directory tree
[02:56] <IamTrying> http://www.apple.com/macbook-air/design.html - Can i remove MacBook Air existing OS and install Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit on it? will the drivers and everything gonna work ?
[02:56] <FuuqUmiist> Puritanick it would also be a wonderful idea making Ubuntu more user friendly just to have a menu icon in Ubuntu that actually says "menu" lol
[02:56] <crunchbang> ie, as the were set b4 compression
[02:56] <Hornet> SmashStack: restarting now, with the usb stick in, has just shown me grub
[02:57] <Hornet> which I haven't yet seen
[02:57] <Hornet> nothing different to the last reboot either
[02:57] <crunchbang> Richhh, Still, it's all guud now. i'm off to watch Walking Dead guys. bye
[02:57] <FuuqUmiist> one of the simple reasons why Mint is considered more user friendly
[02:57] <Hornet> SmashStack: as to what I've tried, I've been reinstalling and repairing this setup for a while
[02:57] <SmashStack> Hornet: it's possible that GRUB got installed to the USB stick instead of your hard drive
[02:58] <Puritanick> xfce has such a menu
[02:58] <Hornet> SmashStack: that's my guess yes
[02:58] <Hornet> but I can't log in in any case, somehow
[02:58] <SmashStack> are you attempting to log into a TTY?
[02:58] <Hornet> yes
[02:58] <Puritanick> sudo 7za a -t7z files.7z /*
[02:58] <Hornet> same with ssh
[02:58] <Puritanick> :)
[02:59] <Puritanick> hope you got ssd
[02:59] <Hornet> I'm at grub now though, so can edit kernel params if I need to
[02:59] <SmashStack> well, that's odd. can you boot the machine with a live disk and install grub to your HDD?
[02:59] <Hornet> well I've just tried that
[02:59] <Hornet> and this is where I am
[02:59] <FuuqUmiist> if you are helping a Ubuntu newbie and tell them "click on the menu icon then go to..." they will be like "WTF" lol
[02:59] <SmashStack> so it got installed to the HDD correctly but still not booting?
[03:00] <Hornet> SmashStack: problem is the installer lashes around for /dev/sda and I CANNOT use grub-install from ash
[03:00] <Hornet> which is the only shell I have in the installer
[03:00] <Hornet> I can't tell
[03:00] <Hornet> it should install on sde1, there's a boot partition waiting for it
[03:00] <Puritanick> the icons dont even have names
[03:00] <SmashStack> since you have access to grub now, can you boot into recovery mode?
[03:01] <Hornet> yes, but can't log into anything, no idea why
[03:01] <Hornet> unsure if recovery does anything special in that regard?
[03:01] <SmashStack> you shouldn't have to in recovery mode
[03:01] <Hornet> k
[03:01] <Hornet> at vicious pink menu
[03:02] <Hornet> resume, root, clean, etc
[03:02] <SmashStack> select the fsck option that remounts everything in read-write
[03:02] <Hornet> 'check all filesystems' ?
[03:02] <SmashStack> probably
[03:02] <Hornet> this is a 6tb raid 6 array
[03:02] <Hornet> how long have you got
[03:03] <Hornet> actually it's probably still building
[03:03] <Hornet> nothing's using it yet though
[03:03] <SmashStack> I have quite a bit of time, really
[03:03] <Hornet> 'finished' please press enter'
[03:04] <SmashStack> press enter. should take you back to the menu. then select the root option
[03:04] <Hornet> in
[03:04] <Hornet> putty won't touch it so I presume nothing's really running
[03:04] <SmashStack> now try grub-install <hard drive device here>
[03:04] <Hornet> device or partition?
[03:04] <SmashStack> device
[03:05] <Hornet> k, sec
[03:05] <trypton> hello
[03:05] <SmashStack> should automatically latch on to the correct partition (the one with the boot flag set)
[03:05] <Hornet> this gpt partition has no bios bootpartion, can't embed
[03:05] <Hornet> paraphrasing
[03:06] <SmashStack> so your device that you're trying to install it on has not boot partition, which is why it's installing itself to the USB
[03:06] <Hornet> fdisk -l shoots off of the screen
[03:06] <Hornet> I explicitly set it up to
[03:06] <SmashStack> fdisk -l | less
[03:07] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: If you installed fglrx from the repo, do -> code: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak - then next ::
[03:07] <Hornet> this is wildly different, one moment
[03:07] <Hornet> looks like after the raid setup, everything juggled
[03:08] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: i don't know whether i installed fglrx from the repo, but I didn't install this package by hand, at best I uploaded it with apt-get upgrade.
[03:08] <Hornet> pity I can't screenshot this
[03:09] <SmashStack> pipe it to a log and pastebin it?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Now do: sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates .. else from the repo will do this next.
[03:09] <SmashStack> or do you not have an internet connection?
[03:09] <Hornet> no network
[03:09] <Hornet> but will try, sec
[03:09] <Hornet> well it does
[03:09] <Hornet> but I don't think it's using it
[03:10] <SmashStack> probably not. I think their is something special you have to do in single-user mode to use the network
[03:11] <Hornet> oh well
[03:11] <SmashStack> you could throw it on a USB stick if you really need to
[03:11] <Hornet> okay well, there's sda1 which has boot
[03:11] <SmashStack> you can try grub-install sda
[03:11] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: that sequence should work to remove an apt-get or additional drivers instll .. next we will install the opensource driver.
[03:11] <Hornet> sda2 which is extended, sda5 which is swap, and sda6 which is 'linux'
[03:11] <Hornet> it LOOKS like what was sde is now sda
[03:11] <Hornet> somehow
[03:12] <Hornet> sda6 might be the usb?
[03:12] <SmashStack> I've never actually heard of a system with sde before
[03:12] <Hornet> no idea what else if could be
[03:12] <Hornet> this has 5 disks in it
[03:12] <Hornet> 4 in raid, one bare
[03:12] <SmashStack> external drives are often sdbx or sdcx
[03:13] <SmashStack> but it's possible, I guess
[03:13] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: ok, next?
[03:13] <SmashStack> oh. well that would do it. I don't have experience with raid
[03:13] <SmashStack> I believe, ideally, the bare disk would have the boot partition on it
[03:14] <Hornet> rebooting without stick now
[03:14] <Hornet> blackscreen, no disk noise
[03:14] <Hornet> no ping
[03:14] <SmashStack> huh
[03:14] <Hornet> indeed
[03:15] <Hornet> I could reinstall the whole thing from scratch, again?
[03:15] <SmashStack> you could
[03:15] <Hornet> actually, no  Ican't, as the usb stick was the media
[03:15] <Hornet> will need to reimage it
[03:15] <Hornet> fucksocks
[03:15] <SmashStack> you could try adding a boot flag to a disk
[03:15] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ;;; sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ...
[03:15] <SmashStack> via that root prompt
[03:16] <Hornet> sda1 was bootable
[03:16] <Hornet> rebooting to prompt
[03:16] <roasted> Does anybody know what exactly controls the notifications in the upper right corner? Seems as if mine aren't working despite this install being brand new... never seen this on other machines though... 13.10 64 bit.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: reboot to see the change and for effect.
[03:16] <SmashStack> roasted: might be libnotify
[03:17] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: what do you mean  by reinstall?
[03:17] <SmashStack> roasted: not sure, though, as I use KDE. I'm assuming you're using unity
[03:17] <roasted> SmashStack: yes
[03:17] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: "apt-get install --reinstall" ??
[03:18] <SmashStack> roasted: appears to be notify-osd
[03:18] <Hornet> SmashStack: I have root and networking
[03:19] <Hornet> nfi how to dump over console though
[03:19] <Hornet> sda1 is mounted on /boot apparently
[03:19] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: oh ok i didnt know that command, and the line just spanned there
[03:19] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: ok rebooting
[03:19] <SmashStack> Hornet: does sda1 have the boot partition?
[03:20] <SmashStack> you can install pastebinit with apt-get and use that
[03:20] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: for calification, my last was 2 separate sequences 1st with the "install" packages, and 2nd with the install --reintall .
[03:20] <Hornet> well it IS the boot partition
[03:20] <SmashStack> fdisk -l | pastebinit
[03:20] <SmashStack> so it has the boot flag, then? it should, since that's where /boot is
[03:20] <Hornet> ta
[03:20] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: yep i got it, rebooting now.
[03:21] <Hornet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7065496
[03:22] <Hornet> one disk is partitioned as |boot|ext|swap
[03:22] <Hornet> three partitions on one 250gb disk
[03:22] <SmashStack> okay. so sdf is your USB drive
[03:22] <Hornet> it is now yes
[03:22] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: unfortunately still falling back to ubuntu 2d, although i selected ubuntu 3d on the login screen.
[03:23] <SmashStack> and you tried grub-install sda, correct?
[03:23] <Hornet> yes
[03:23] <Hornet> it thought it worked
[03:23] <Hornet> but nothing happened on reboot
[03:23] <the_stuntman> so I've got a bit of an issue, I believe my ssh system is a little messed up and had to boot into a rescue mode. But I'm really unsure of how to reinstall openssh to fix my errors through rescue
[03:23] <SmashStack> okay. boot your system w/o the USB while holding shift
[03:23] <Hornet> couldn't see anything on screen nor ping
[03:23] <the_stuntman> anyone willing to give me a hand?
[03:23] <Hornet> k, sec
[03:23] <SmashStack> if grub actually installed, it should show up
[03:24] <Hornet> nope
[03:24] <Hornet> black screen
[03:24] <Hornet> no ping either
[03:25] <Hornet> back to rootstick..
[03:26] <DoctorOW> Hello
[03:26] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Is a driver loaded ? do the new pastebin sudo lshw -C display, and let's see if a driver (readeon) loaded !
[03:27] <SmashStack> Hornet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[03:27] <kristenbb> Bashing-om: no wait i just rebooted again, and it's working now, thank you very much !
[03:28] <defgadget> can you run graphical programs if your running a barebones install with no desktop GUI
[03:29] <Hornet> SmashStack: which method would you suggest?
[03:29] <Hornet> I'm at root again now
[03:29] <SmashStack> defgadget: unless said program will run in a framebuffer, no
[03:29] <defgadget> gotcha
[03:30] <SmashStack> Hornet: I would give the LiveCD terminal method a shot first
[03:30] <SmashStack> since you're already at a terminal
[03:32] <roasted> SmashStack: reinstalled notify-osd, no change. dang. :(
[03:33] <SmashStack> roasted: are your notifications broken or something?
[03:33] <roasted> SmashStack: they simply don't work, aside from wireless/sound level.
[03:33] <roasted> SmashStack: empathy, rhythmbox, etc. don't work
[03:33] <Hornet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7065526/ SmashStack :|
[03:33] <SmashStack> roasted: can't help you there. sorry
[03:34] <SmashStack> Hornet: wait. why is it back to sde?
[03:34] <SmashStack> color me confused
[03:35] <Hornet> yeah, quite
[03:35] <SmashStack> welp. you can try installing grub to sde now, I suppose
[03:35] <Hornet> tally ho then...
[03:36] <Hornet> wonder if this is why it changed behaviour on different boot attempts
[03:36] <SmashStack> this is certainly one of the stranger issues I've attempted to help with
[03:37] <Bashing-om> kristenbb: Great that it is working ! had me going ! and I was looking !
[03:37] <SmashStack> well if the device names change on each boot, that would cause issues. no idea why they would change, though
[03:38] <Hornet> can I specify by uuid rather than device  Iwonder
[03:39] <Hornet> SmashStack: mount -l shows /dev/sde on /boot, so as a sanity check, do I want grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sde ?
[03:39] <Hornet> or simply =/boot?
[03:40] <SmashStack> boot dir should be /boot. but it has to be the /boot of sde, not sdf. not sure how to check that
[03:40] <Hornet> atm /boot is mounted from sde correctly
[03:41]  * dann waves hello
[03:41] <SmashStack> then --boot-directory=/boot should do it
[03:41] <SmashStack> emphasis on "should"
[03:41] <nbros652> LUKS + SSD question... I have an SSD + HD in my computer. The BOOT, EFI, and ROOT partitions are on the SSD while the HOME and SWAP are on the HD. I have ROOT, HOME, and SWAP individually (no LVM) encrypted with LUKS.  What is the recommended method for enabling TRIM on the SSD given my setup? Given that the disk is encrypted and should contain random data, is there a point to TRIM?
[03:41] <nbros652> There seems to be a lot of talk on the subject and it goes all sort of directions.
[03:42] <Hornet> SmashStack: smoke testing atm
[03:42] <Hornet> cross everything that's long enough
[03:42] <SmashStack> nbros652: I believe the answer to that question is no, but I'm not entirely sure
[03:43] <nbros652> SmashStack: That's what I was thinking.
[03:43] <Hornet> SmashStack: looks like a lot of nothing again
[03:43] <Hornet> can I nail my fstab to use uuids or something
[03:43] <Hornet> this is ludicrous
[03:43] <rww> nbros652: You can enable TRIM. If you do, you will end up with blank regions on the physical drive representing empty space on the encrypted drive. You will also get the usual benefits of TRIM. Whether the former is acceptable is up to you.
[03:44] <rww> nbros652: i.e., it's possible, but there is information leakage that may or may not concern you depending on why you're using encryption
[03:44] <SmashStack> I believe fstab should be using UUIDs anyway
[03:44] <violinuxer> anybody have op here?
[03:45] <SmashStack> so, Hornet, yes you can and you probably should
[03:45] <xangua> violinuxer: If you have something to discuss with the ops, join #ubuntu-ops
[03:45] <nbros652> rww: that's what I figured. Do you know how to enable on / when decrypted at boot?
[03:45] <SmashStack> I believe the blkid command should give you your UUIDs
[03:45] <psusi> nbros652, indeed, enabling TRIM on an encrypted partition *can* be harmful to security, if the drive uses deterministic trim
[03:46] <nbros652> psusi: Any references you would recommend as reading material that aren't going to show with a web search?
[03:46] <violinuxer> would thye cover spam messages?
[03:47] <rww> nbros652: I used http://askubuntu.com/a/122007/244726 and it worked for me
[03:47] <rww> violinuxer: from which nick?
[03:47] <rww> i have a good idea, but still
[03:47] <violinuxer> Dane_Minor.... advertising toyota cars
[03:47] <rww> figured
[03:48] <Peleus> Anyone able to help me output displays via two GPU's, it would be greatly appreciated
[03:48] <Hornet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7065559/ SmashStack :| :| :|
[03:48] <Hornet> wonderful stuff
[03:49] <Hornet> not edited it yet
[03:49] <violinuxer> got another message as of 23:48
[03:49] <SmashStack> Hornet: well, at least you know that it was using the USB's /boot when it was installed. I /think/ that that is the root of the problem
[03:50] <SmashStack> but I don't really know how to fix it
[03:50] <SmashStack> which is the current problem
[03:50] <Hornet> manually edit fstab I think
[03:50] <Hornet> this'll be 'fun'
[03:50] <Hornet> and even then though, my login is broken
[03:50] <nbros652> rww: does passing the discard option on the decrypted mount actaully accomplish anything?
[03:50] <Hornet> not sure where that happend in the process
[03:51] <Hornet> but in any case with recovery Ican fix that
[03:51] <SmashStack> prepare for tedious typing of UUIDs
[03:51] <SmashStack> or copy-pasta via emacs or something
[03:51] <Hornet> have to do it manually
[03:51] <Hornet> fun times
[03:51] <Hornet> biab I suppose
[03:52] <SmashStack> gl
[03:52] <Hornet> ta
[03:52] <SmashStack> ping me when you finish
[03:52] <Hornet> heh
[03:52] <SmashStack> or if you finish, as the case may be
[03:53] <nbros652> rww: Ah, just noticed the discard option in crypttab... didn't see that before.
[03:54] <rww> nbros652: you need to make sure each layer of the stack is enabling TRIM, so yeah, you put discard in a bunch of places
[03:54] <nbros652> rww: makes sense. Thanks
[03:54] <boldfilter1> Hey, you guys are pretty smart
[03:55] <violinuxer> boldfilter1: whats up?
[03:56] <bray90820> How would i check a files permissions
[03:57] <Stainedhat> bray90820: ls -la
[03:57] <bray90820> How would i input a single file to check it's permissions
[03:57] <violinuxer> ls -la <filename>
[03:58]  * doseofyous hey
[03:58] <bray90820> Thats what i thought
[03:58] <bray90820> Thank you
[03:58]  * doseofyous is this the right place for ubuntu help?
[03:58] <violinuxer> doseofyous: whats up?
[04:00] <mherder> hey
[04:00] <cipher__> I just wanted to remind all of you that you're the worst support channel on freenode.
[04:01] <rww> cipher__: thanks for letting us know! anything we can help you with today?
[04:01] <rww> guess not
[04:01]  * doseofyous im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but my bios wont boot from usb is there any way other then cd?
[04:02] <defgadget> Hey im fairly new to Linux here and Im looking for a good book to dive alittle deeper, I understand basic commands but looking for a greater knowledge
[04:02] <needshelp> i need to know how to force format a HD in terminal.  I have tried gparted and it wont let me.
[04:03] <CaptainTacoSauce> doseofyous: those are the big two, you need to get the process started somehow, I built a PXE server since some of my boxes had jacked up USB ports but that's probably more work than just burning the CD
[04:03] <Hornet> SmashStack: done it, confirmed with blkid , mount -l and df -h and it still blackscreens on reboot
[04:03] <violinuxer> defgadget: try "the official ubuntu book"
[04:03] <violinuxer> needshelp: did you run with sudo? have you looked into the parted comand?
[04:04] <Hornet> so, reimage usb stick, nuke everything that isn't raid and retry again?
[04:04] <Hornet> problem is it'll likely do the same thing
[04:05] <defgadget> simple enough haha. I was amazed when I started seeing how powerful the CLI is when used poperly
[04:05] <violinuxer> defgadget: yup. extremelypowerful
[04:08] <Bashing-om> doseofyous: Will this help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.
[04:09] <SmashStack> Hornet: I really don't know where to go from here
[04:09] <nbros652> doseofyous: does your BIOS support booting from USB at all?
[04:09] <Hornet> SmashStack: thinking I should check grub config
[04:10] <violinuxer> nbros652: 2002 dell tower is what he told me... that's pretty old
[04:10] <Hornet> but atm I'm on the stick
[04:11] <SmashStack> Hornet: oh that sounds fun. but yeah, that does sound like the next logical step
[04:11] <Bashing-om> needshelp: CLI method to format a hard drive ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[04:11] <nbros652> doseofyous: 2002 dell not likely, but you might have one other option... Network Install
[04:12] <Hornet> SmashStack: it's full of DO NOT EDITs
[04:12] <Hornet> as it's built from other things
[04:12] <SmashStack> Hornet: it is probably the auto-generated
[04:12] <Hornet> it is yes :\
[04:12] <SmashStack> config
[04:17]  * doseofyous from what i gather from violinuxer and Bashing-om I can boot from grub or network install?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> doseofyous: yepper, there are ways.
[04:23] <kanupatar> How can I print all debug logs to a text file in an application which is running in background in linux
[04:24] <Bashing-om> doseofyous: Other ideas :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:24] <JoeyJoeJo> kanupatar: It depends on the application. In many you can specify a debug log when the application is started. Others might log directly to syslog
[04:25] <FuuqUmiist> is flash hardware accelerated in Ubuntu?
[04:25] <kanupatar> JoeyJoeJo: I have to re direct all outputs to a text file
[04:25] <JoeyJoeJo> what application?
[04:26] <kanupatar> JoeyJoeJo: it is a c application
[04:26] <JoeyJoeJo> something you made?
[04:26] <JoeyJoeJo> Or something installed via apt-get?
[04:26] <Hornet> SmashStack: giving up for the night.  will leave a new stick imaging and likely do a bare metal install again tomorrow, without grub, then boot into a live environment with bash and install/edit grub manually
[04:28] <SmashStack> best of luck, Hornet
[04:31] <Hornet> indeed :\
[04:31] <Hornet> many thanks again for all your help
[04:31] <K`zan> Hello, I have a handicapped friend who uses mousekeys, she has gotten worse and is more limited in movement, so I edited the mousekeys file to add keys easier for her to reach, but it seems that X doesn't read that file and the standard stuff seems to be hardcoded (yes, rebooted and removed the file entirely).  Ubu 12.04.  Any thought, pointers or suggestions appreciated ***MUCH***!
[04:31] <SmashStack> no problem. sorry we didn't get it fixed
[04:32] <K`zan> Been working on this for a couple days, google, yahoo nor bing is any help :-(.
[04:33] <K`zan> She refuses to use windoz, so either I am running over there whenever she wants to do something or she just sits and stares at the screen until I can :-/.
[04:34] <FuuqUmiist> is it more lightweight in Linux to use flash or html5? in Windows flash is GPU accelerated but in Linux there are no longer new features in flash
[04:37] <K`zan> If anyone can provide some help or hope, please prefix message to me, still searching - I really don't want to put her in windows to solve the problem.
[04:37] <FuuqUmiist> so does anyone know?
[04:38] <K`zan> 1494 people here, apparently not :-/.
[04:39] <ariscop> K`zan, it uses the numpad right?
[04:40] <K`zan> ariscop: Yes, the stock version of mousekeys uses the numpad, too hard for her to get that far over without falling over :-(.
[04:40] <ariscop> K`zan, have you considered an external usb numpad?
[04:41] <ariscop> i'm not sure if it's possible to rebind, and there's not many other places on a keyboard to put them
[04:43] <K`zan> ariscop: You can assign them to anything, but the mousekeys configuration file is not being read.  This did work for a while but seems to have stopped recently.
[04:43] <K`zan>  file is no longer being read
[04:44] <ariscop> K`zan, what's the filename?
[04:44] <K`zan> ariscop: She types with her nose, putting something over the regular keyboard would kind of restrict it beyond use.  Hold, lemme get the full path.
[04:45] <K`zan> ariscop: /usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys
[04:46] <K`zan> Wondering if there is some way (xkbd?) to enter those assignments from a script...
[04:46] <K`zan> Yeah, I'm thrashing and a bit flaky, been at this for a while...
[04:48] <FuuqUmiist> K`zan this might help http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-3D-Optical-Finger-Mouse-Mice-fr-Laptop-PC-Computer-Notebook-Handheld-G9-/151166717522?pt=Mice&hash=item23323d0e52
[04:48] <ariscop> K`zan, quick sanity check, you have verified that the file hasn't been overwritten? things in /usr/share won't be kept if modified
[04:48] <K`zan> FuuqUmiist: CHecking, thanks.
[04:48] <FuuqUmiist> or maybe this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Y01-3-button-mouse-Convinient-Optical-Thumb-controlled-Trackball-Mouse-Mice-/111150130196?pt=Mice&hash=item19e1106414
[04:49] <K`zan> FuuqUmiist: Considered that, but she has no use of her hands :-(.
[04:50] <K`zan> ariscop: Yes, the file has been overwritten with the changes I made to it.
[04:52] <K`zan> If this: "    interpret KP_1 {
[04:52] <K`zan>         action = MovePtr(x=-1,y= +1);
[04:52] <K`zan>     };" can be entered some other way, that might solved the problem...
[04:52] <ariscop> K`zan, i meen during a package upgrade, it'll just wipe whatever is there and replace it
[04:52] <SmashStack> I have a setterm command and a setfont command being run in my rc.local file. I know the commands are getting executed (verbose output sent to a log file), but the effects of them are getting reset when the TTY login screen shows up. Why is this and how can I fix it/get around it?
[04:53] <ariscop> doesn't seem to be a way to keep it in /etc though :(
[04:53] <K`zan> ariscop: Yes, that is what wiped the changed file, replaced it and still not working...
[04:53] <FuuqUmiist> why not just get speech recognition software like Stephen Hawking
[04:54] <K`zan> Hummmm, perhaps xmodmap, checking.
[04:54] <K`zan> FuuqUmiist: She refuses to use windows (yes, sigh, *I* know).
[04:55] <K`zan> I bought her Dragon...
[04:55] <ariscop> i've just stumbled across xmodmap also, compat/mousekeys implies that it's capable of it on my system
[04:56] <K`zan> ariscop: That might well be the answer here :-), if Xorg ignores that config, I can do it myself.  I think.  Checking.
[04:56] <diuneigh> can someone help me with REDIR?  I need port forwarding for xchat.
[04:58] <FuuqUmiist> does linux have any speech recognition apps?
[05:00] <ariscop> K`zan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/88948/control-mouse-pointer-with-keyboard-without-a-number-pad
[05:00] <ariscop> it suggests using keynav instead of xkb
[05:03] <ariscop> K`zan, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speech_Recognition there's also a few options for voice recognition, i can't say how well they work though
[05:03] <obsidian> I forgot my password (it's for a site I'm an authorized user on) does anyone have any experience with xHydra or similar tools?
[05:10] <thom_> so I just installed the moka icon theme. I don't know how to actually change icon themes though.
[05:11] <K`zan>  ariscop Checking...  Thanks!
[05:14] <K`zan>  ariscop Thanks for those links, I'll look them over tomorrow, I'm beat and kind of burned out ATM.  *****MUCH APPRECIATED and THANKS*****.
[05:20] <kreig_> I accidentally started formatting (format process was just started ) my external hard disk ( NTFS ). Now, I am not able to mount it. The device is not being recognized to have an NTFS signature. How can I browse the files that have  not been deleted ?
[05:23] <FuuqUmiist> kreig_ try the TestDisk app, there should be tutorials on the net
[05:24] <FuuqUmiist> that should work if you do it properly, it worked for me, but you can also use PhotoRec to recover some videos and photos
[05:25] <FuuqUmiist> kreig_ basic formatting just erases the indexing, nothing will actually be deleted unless you write stuff on the disk
[05:26] <clone2> just need to fix the directory
[05:34] <Semor> I am using mysql cluster to save all data for 3 logic servers , but I am wondering if I need to create 3 different tables for each ,or just use one table ?
[05:39] <xwalk> Is sudoedit affected by an encrypted home directory? I can't get sudoedit to use vim by default. Using "EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim" in .profile.
[05:41] <grandrew> as long as home is mounted your .profile should be accessible
[05:42] <xwalk> I even resourced .profile after editing it. This seems trivial, but I've never come across this kind of problem.
[05:42] <enali> joined #ubuntu
[05:42] <enali> #ubuntu
[05:43] <enali> ?
[05:45] <xwalk> Looks like the issue was solved with a quick "sudo update-alternatives --config editor" command.
[05:46] <Stainedhat> Semor: I'd keep the data in different tables. You can still run queries against all 3 but it will be easier to automate queries later on if you have the data separated
[05:51] <callipygous> Hi all
[05:51] <enali> hi
[05:51] <callipygous> I ran pppoe-config once to troubleshoot my modem.  Now, every time I boot, I have to wait a few minutes as it keeps trying to establish a ppp connection.  How do I turn this off?
[05:52] <callipygous> how's it going?
[05:53] <Stainedhat> callipygous: so you're not using your modem anymore I take it?
[05:53] <kanupatar> How can I print all debug/ouput logs to a text file in an application which is running in background in linux
[05:54] <enali> use 'daemon name' > 'filename' when start up ?
[05:55] <enali> I don't try it
[05:55] <callipygous> Stainedhat: no
[05:55] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: "<command> &> output.txt &" should do it
[05:56] <enali> win#1
[05:56] <boldfilter1> Why is the chrome icon blue?
[05:56] <enali> it's chromium not chrome
[05:56] <enali> i think
[05:57] <kanupatar> Stainedhat:   "test_app &> text-file &" ?
[05:57] <Stainedhat> callipygous: look at your /etc/network/interfaces file and comment out or remove the ppp section
[05:57] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: yes
[05:57] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: I think that should work
[05:58] <enali> anyone can tell me how to avoid the information about "someone join/quit channel"?
[05:58] <callipygous> ok, I'll try that
[05:59] <Stainedhat> the &> redirects stderr and stdout to the file and the & after it forces it to run in the background.. you may also be able to start it with just the redirection then hit ctrl-z then type bg
[05:59] <kanupatar> Stainedhat: can you explain that command?
[05:59] <kanupatar> Stainedhat: "test_app &> text-file &" ?
[06:00] <Stainedhat> I just did
[06:00] <kanupatar> test_app --> my test application
[06:00] <kanupatar> & means?
[06:00] <kanupatar> > means?
[06:00] <Stainedhat> read my last comment ^
[06:00] <kanupatar> text-file --> ouput log file
[06:01] <funyun> hi. i just installed ubuntu server on my dedicated server. i now how remote access via ssh. how do i setup gui so i can remotely connect to it?
[06:02] <kanupatar> Stainedhat: didnot clear sorry
[06:02] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: huh?
[06:02] <kanupatar> Stainedhat: "test_app &> text-file &"
[06:02] <kanupatar> I understand the last &
[06:03] <kanupatar> but not the first &
[06:03] <Stainedhat> funyun: you can either use X-forwarding by adding -X to shh command or use another tool like VNC or teamviewer, etc
[06:03] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[06:03] <Stainedhat> it is used to redirect output to your file.. all stderr and stdout
[06:04]  * kanupatar confused about the first &
[06:04] <funyun> Stainedhat: so it won't look the same way ubuntu desktop looks?
[06:04]  * kanupatar second & would only be used for running app in bacground
[06:04] <Stainedhat> essentially all output your program generates goes to your file, both errors and regular expected output.. if you don't want errors then just use >
[06:05] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: read the link I posted and you will understand
[06:05] <callipygous> if you use 2> you get stderr
[06:05] <callipygous> What does the &> mean?
[06:05] <kanupatar> callipygous: yes, that was my question
[06:05] <callipygous> oh
[06:06] <Stainedhat> funyun: it will if yuo use vnc or temaviewer or any other remote desktop solution. if you jest need to access a single X program you can use ssh -X user@server to allow whatever programs you execute to run on your local display
[06:06] <Stainedhat> callipygous: it means you are redirecting both stderr and stdout
[06:07] <funyun> Stainedhat: so just do apt-get install teamviewer?
[06:07] <Stainedhat> kanupatar: I've explained it 3 times now and posted a link to a complete breakdown of output redirection. if you still don't understand it you should probably go google it cause I can't make it any clearer
[06:08] <Stainedhat> funyun: no, I don't think it's in the repos.. you'll have to wget the .deb file from teamviewer.com and install it with dpkg
[06:09] <mici> enali:in irssi write /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits
[06:09] <mici> i dont know about other clients
[06:09] <Stainedhat> funyun: you can also just use vnc which may be easier
[06:10] <callipygous> Stainedhat: thanks
[06:10] <Stainedhat> callipygous: np, did clearing out the ppp stuff work?
[06:12] <Stainedhat> funyun: you may also want to look into xrdp if you are connecting from a windows machine
[06:12] <funyun> Stainedhat: connecting from a mac
[06:13] <Stainedhat> funyun: I'd say vnc then.. especially if you don't have access to the gui already.
[06:14] <Stainedhat> funyun: but if you're connecting from a remote location and you need to open the ports up to the internet I would recommend running vnc on a non standard port to avoid a million login attempts per day from skriddies
[06:14] <funyun> Stainedhat: i connected with vnc and there's just a blank page
[06:14] <funyun> with nothing on it
[06:15] <funyun> and an X as a curser
[06:15] <Stainedhat> funyun: once you have vnc access check out teamviewer.. i've found it to be pretty good
[06:16] <Stainedhat> you may have an issue in your xstartup file.. try gnome-classic
[06:16] <Stainedhat> funyun: ^
[06:16] <funyun> Stainedhat: it says no /home/user/.xsession file
[06:17] <funyun> Stainedhat: so do apt-get install gnome-classic?
[06:17] <Stainedhat> can you pastebin your ~/.vnc/xstartup file?
[06:18] <Stainedhat> funyun: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:18] <funyun> Stainedhat: http://pastebin.com/LTvHzEdU
[06:18] <funyun> newest
[06:22] <Stainedhat> funyun: one sec
[06:22] <funyun> np
[06:23] <Payton> Is there any piece of software that can stop my system from heating up? xD
[06:23] <Payton> Preferably like HP coolsense
[06:23] <Stainedhat> funyun: sorry got distracted for a min.. ok, lemme look at that pastebin brb
[06:25] <Stainedhat> funyun: try adding "gnome-session &" to the very end of the xstartup file first
[06:26] <Stainedhat> funyun: he restart vnc and login again
[06:26] <Stainedhat> Then
[06:27] <funyun> Stainedhat: no change
[06:28] <glitchd> can i ask a xubuntu question in here as im getting no response in there?
[06:28] <Stainedhat> funyun: which desktop environment do you have installed?
[06:29] <Stainedhat> funyun: and how are you starting the vncserver?
[06:29] <Stanley00> glitchd: better you ask in there, but you can try your luck here :D
[06:29] <funyun> Stainedhat: i haven't installed anything. i'm doing vncserver -geometry 1440x900 :1
[06:30] <glitchd> Stanley00, lol thx man
[06:30] <funyun> all i have installed is vncserver and gnome-session
[06:30] <glitchd> im getting really bad sound quality in 13.10 both in the headphones and over the speakers
[06:30] <glitchd> im trying to find out what i can do to fix this
[06:30] <pranav> how to automate tasks like clicking javascript links, copy generated content, open another tab, paste it somewhere, submit the form. Any good sofwares in ubuntu ?
[06:30] <glitchd> it sounded good before
[06:31] <glitchd> and this is a brand new laptop HP Probbok 4540s
[06:32] <Ben64> glitchd: usually what i do to fix audio problems is remove pulseaudio, but that messes with other things a bit
[06:33] <qwerty_1234567> !ufw
[06:33] <glitchd> Ben64, i believe i did remove pulse before and went with alsa, however i believe i was having problems when trying to adjust certain volumes
[06:33] <Stainedhat> funyun: hmm.. and it's not spawning gnome even after a restart of vnc?
[06:34] <funyun> Stainedhat: my xstartup file looks like this, is this correct? http://pastebin.com/5wLw4dVs
[06:36] <Stainedhat> funyun: yeah, try "gnome-session --session=gnome-classic &"
[06:37] <Stainedhat> that should spawn the classic gnome desktop as long as you have gnome installed
[06:38] <Stainedhat> funyun: you also might want to try "vncserver-kill :1" to get rid of any running sessions
[06:38] <funyun> Stainedhat: just a blank grey screen
[06:38] <Stainedhat> funyun: you also might want to try "vncserver -kill :1" to get rid of any running sessions
[06:38] <funyun> Stainedhat: yep, i ddi that
[06:39] <funyun> did*
[06:39] <Stainedhat> funyun: hmmm sounds like something is missing.. are you sure you have gnome installed?
[06:39] <funyun> Stainedhat: the desktop enviornment you spoke of. was i supposed to install that?
[06:40] <funyun> Stainedhat: just gnome-sessions
[06:40] <funyun> so install gnome?
[06:40] <Stainedhat> funyun: yes, if you want the classic gnome DE run "sudo apt-get install gnome-core"
[06:41] <Stainedhat> funyun: for gnome 3 i think it's gnome-shell
[06:41] <glitchd> what would i do to trace down audio problems in xubuntu 13.10?
[06:41] <funyun> Stainedhat: i just did apt-get install gnome. should i uninstall?
[06:42] <pranav> i want to automate tasks like copying a content generated by javascript action from a webpage and posting it into another ?
[06:42] <pranav> what should i use in ubuntu?
[06:43] <rsvp> which version of python is primary in Trusty ??
[06:44] <Stainedhat> funyun: that should have installed the full gnome DE
[06:44] <funyun> Stainedhat: is that bad?
[06:44] <tunage> I have a usb device that is coming up busy, as soon as I plug it in. How do I find out what is capturing it? I how I free it up?  http://sprunge.us/KOIU
[06:44] <funyun> or more than i need?
[06:45] <rysh> rsvp: 2.7
[06:45] <pranav> i want to automate tasks like copying a content generated by javascript action from a webpage and posting it into another ? what should i use in ubuntu?
[06:46] <Stainedhat> funyun: try "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and pastbin the output before you install
[06:46] <rysh> rsvp: seems also 3.4
[06:47] <funyun> Stainedhat: okay one sec, gnome is taking years to install
[06:47] <rsvp> rysh: what is the "python" command linked to? it should be 2 or 3.
[06:48] <Stainedhat> funyun: lol.. it's still installing.. well, I would say wait til it's done then try again haha
[06:49] <rysh> rsvp:  /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
[06:50] <rsvp> rysh: thanks so much for checking. I guess Python3 is still not mainstream.
[06:52] <rysh> rsvp: it is installed, it looks like .... 3.3 and 3.3m and 3.4 and 3.4m ...
[06:53] <rysh> at least on my machine :-) ... but then I already do a lot with it, like compiling xbmc 13 beta
[06:54] <rsvp> rysh: out of curiosity, what is "python3" command linked to?
[06:54] <rysh> rsvp:  /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.4
[06:56] <rsvp> rysh: ok great, I don't think I will be converting my py modules to conform with v3.4 -- thanks again.
[06:56] <rysh> rsvp: np
[07:03] <tarelerulz> Is there a room for coding c ++ in Ubuntu or Linux in general
[07:04] <puish> don't think so. but there is ##c++
[07:06] <tarelerulz> thanks puish, I just went there.  Oh Uubuntu 13 is great.
[07:09] <Stainedhat> funyun: I'm heading out but hopefully that'll work for you once you get gnome installed
[07:18] <dmarr> for some reason lsb_release -v shows 14.04 because i screwingly changed some sources to point to the trusty source
[07:19] <dmarr> i changed the sources list to saucy now apt-get install shows a bunch of packages to be removed which i know is not right (it tries to remove apt)
[07:24] <sohaeb> test?
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> sohaeb: failed
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> sohaeb: there're testing channels for testing
[07:36] <abhvym> when i do "start apache"
[07:36] <abhvym> when i do "start apache"  or "stop apache" how the "stop" knows where is the program located?
[07:36] <akaWolf> hello! I have a performance issue with video on my Ubuntu. can you help me?
[07:37] <abhvym> !details | akaWolf
[07:37] <abhvym> in case of custome software instaled in /opt when i do "start apache"  or "stop apache" how the "stop" knows where is the program located?
[07:37] <abhvym> apache is just example here.
[07:38] <akaWolf> abhvym: fps in games is more over 10 times less than in Windows on that machine.
[07:38] <abhvym> akaWolf, may be you need the correct graphics driver?
[07:38] <helmut_> hi
[07:39] <akaWolf> abhvym: may be... how to know that?
[07:39] <abhvym> !driver
[07:39] <dmarr> nobody?
[07:40] <abhvym> akaWolf, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto and http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[07:40] <bray90820> Is there a command to erase everything except 1 file in a folder
[07:41] <mici> bray wouldnt it be easier to just mv the file in .. before deleting all the files in the folder?
[07:41] <mici> afaik there is no specific.command for that
[07:42] <rysh> bray90820: ls *|grep -v file_tosave |xargs rm -rf
[07:43] <bray90820> A better question is if i created a file with nano and did write out without entering a name would it create the file
[07:43] <abhvym> bray90820, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/670460/move-all-files-except-one
[07:44] <bray90820> abhvym: nor move REmove
[07:44] <bray90820> but i don't really need it anymore if my other question is answered
[07:45] <abhvym> bray90820, http://superuser.com/questions/529854/how-to-delete-all-files-in-a-directory-except-some
[07:45] <bray90820> abhvym: thanks evento i don't need it anymore
[07:45] <abhvym> you took my opportunity to show off my googling skiils.
[07:45] <akaWolf> abhvym: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066291/
[07:46] <Pilot200hr> I have an intel video card and am attempting to get HDMI output to work with my Pioneer HDMI Reciever I just purchased. The aplay -l looks like the device is there: http://pastebin.com/f57402ZE but speaker-test creates no sound... am I missing something. The HDMI video works just fine. speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,3
[07:46] <Pilot200hr>  is what I am atempting....
[07:46] <abhvym> akaWolf, wait for someone expert to reply. i cant help.
[07:48] <akaWolf> I don't know, which exactly driver use a X11. and which exactly libraries use a game...
[07:48] <akaWolf> and I don't know, which driver I need for my graphical card
[07:48] <PatBateman> hi
[07:49] <abhvym> in case of custome software instaled in /opt when i do "start apache"  or "stop apache" how the "stop" knows where is the program located?
[07:49] <abhvym> apache is just example here.
[07:50] <PatBateman> if I reinstall my ubuntu, will my git files work ?
[07:50] <elarson> I've had an odd experience with my companies vpn. on ubuntu 13.10 I created a VPN connection and everything worked as expected. it used the specified dns and directed traffic correctly. recently I had to reinstall 13.10 and this time around I decided to try adding search domain (this was something I had done in the past). now the search domain works, but i can't access nodes unless I remove the searched domain. for example if the host
[07:50] <elarson> I'm trying to access is 'foo.bar.myco.com' and the search domain is 'myco.com' I can access it via ssh foo.bar, but I can't access it via 'foo.bar.myco.com' anymore
[07:50] <elarson> sorry for the long message
[07:50] <akaWolf> rysh: can you help me?
[07:50] <elarson> I've tried removing the search domain in the VPN settings, but my resolv.conf still ends up with the search domain
[07:50] <abhvym> PatBateman, if you do NOT format you /home (assuming that its on separate partition) then just install git and your git should work
[07:51] <elarson> I've also tried deleting the VPN connection and starting over, but the same thing happens and the search domain shows up in resolv.conf
[07:51] <PatBateman> abhvym: thanks, and what if I install a fully new version with format? all my git settings are gone?
[07:52] <abhvym> PatBateman, if you format *everithing* on that partition will be gone.
[07:52] <gordonjcp> PatBateman: why not just make a copy of .git ?
[07:52] <PatBateman> abhvym: so I have to set all thinks for all my project to deploy to my server?
[07:53] <PatBateman> gordonjcp: is it enough?
[07:53] <abhvym> PatBateman, Backup would be better.
[07:53] <gordonjcp> PatBateman: enough for what?
[07:53] <PatBateman> gordonjcp: i copy back the .git folder to my project and will work?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> no, probably not
[07:54] <PatBateman> yeah I guess
[07:54] <gordonjcp> is this your machine's git configuration, or your project?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> ~/.git contains your git user settings
[07:54] <PatBateman> Im asking my project
[07:54] <gordonjcp> like, name, email and so on
[07:55] <gordonjcp> PatBateman: okay, what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:56] <geirha> ~/.gitconfig  contains your global git config,   project/.git/config  contains the local git config for that project
[07:56] <PatBateman> so, I want a new ubuntu install, and setup my dev. environment again. files/folders/lamp settings are okey, but Im curious about git settings.
[07:56] <PatBateman> geirha: hm nice
[07:57] <PatBateman> so save the global gitconfig and all projects with .git configs and probably will works after the new install
[07:57] <PatBateman> *work
[07:58] <geirha> PatBateman: They are text files, so look at them in a pager or editor; they're easy to read
[07:58] <PatBateman> i know that just not sure when i reinstall git at the beginning will it delete/modify something ...
[07:59] <PatBateman> but now its clear
[07:59] <toyimp> Hey guys. I'm having an issue with my desktop with Ubuntu. I am getting a 'Kernel panic' error. And before this I was getting a failed to execute /sbin/init. For some reason I can't get Ubuntu Live to load up but the install portion works. I even tried installing to another HDD and I get this all over again.
[08:01] <Pilot200hr> I have an intel video card and am attempting to get HDMI output to work with my Pioneer HDMI Reciever I just purchased. The aplay -l looks like the device is there: http://pastebin.com/f57402ZE but speaker-test creates no sound... am I missing something. The HDMI video works just fine. speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,3
[08:02] <rysh> akaWolf: what videocard you use?
[08:04] <akaWolf> rysh: integrated Intel HD Graphics 4600
[08:12] <rysh> akaWolf: which Ubuntu version? 32 or 64 bit? Intel seem to develop Graphics drivers for linux themselves
[08:12] <rysh> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[08:14] <akaWolf> rysh: x64 14.04
[08:15] <rysh> akaWolf: Seems that one it not yet supported by Intel
[08:16] <rysh> You might try the 13.10 version, but it is not recommended ...
[08:18] <JNixx> akaWolf: Seems someone here got the 4600 to work on Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2191109
[08:18] <JNixx> akaWolf: I just skimmed the thread, but might be worth looking at.
[08:19] <akaWolf> hm
[08:20] <akaWolf> rysh: I install a drivers before upgrade distr
[08:22] <rysh> akaWolf: You mean you did upgrade from 13.10 with dist-upgrade?
[08:22] <akaWolf> rysh: yeah, from 13.04
[08:23] <rysh> Was video working OK then in 13.04?
[08:24] <akaWolf> rysh: no
[08:26] <rysh> akaWolf: If I were you I would go back to 13.10 and try those Intel drivers Intel developed themselves ... 14.04 is BETA and not yet supported by Intel
[08:27] <rysh> akaWolf: I do not have experience with Intel graphic drivers though ...
[08:28] <akaWolf> hm
[08:32] <akaWolf> rysh: how to install a 13.10 drivers?
[08:34] <rysh> akaWolf: you can go that website I showed earlier and download the deb file behind the 13.10 link
[08:35] <rysh> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[08:37] <akaWolf> rysh: deb with graphical installer?
[08:37] <akaWolf> rysh: no. graphical installer -- bad idea...
[08:37] <rysh> or in console with dpkg -i xyz.deb
[08:38] <akaWolf> graphical installer -- deb package... and he installs a drivers. but it's works not so good. and I want to direct install necessary drivers from deb.
[08:41] <rysh> akaWolf: Sorry, seems I can't help you
[08:44] <Aryan_> nick:password
[08:45] <Aryan_> which is the best ubuntu version?
[08:48] <mici> im not sure where to ask, but is there a list somewhere about major changes in 13.04, 13.10 and 14.04
[08:48] <mici> some kind of changelog of major things
[08:49] <monkwitdafunk> kernel differences can be the diffrent hardware that is compatable with ubuntu linux
[08:49] <Aryan_> login
[08:50] <monkwitdafunk> which kernel do users in the channel have? i choose to adopt ubuntu LTS
[08:50] <monkwitdafunk> i am guessing kernel diffrences have their own filesystem diffrences
[08:51] <bray90820> How would i copy A file from relative path to current path
[08:51] <monkwitdafunk> instead of two partitions on a device, have five
[08:52] <monkwitdafunk> how is the post precise releases going for filesystems?
[08:52] <rysh> monkwitdafunk: kernel differences have to do with differences in CPU architecture
[08:52] <mici> bray90820 you mean how to copy from symbolic link to an actual path?
[08:52] <rysh> not file system differences
[08:53] <bray90820> mici: i think so
[08:54] <monkwitdafunk> that is ubuntu for amd64 i am using
[08:55] <mici> bray90820 you can just use the symbolic link and it copies the actual file.
[08:55] <monkwitdafunk> what about input and output before the operating system
[08:56] <bray90820> mici: what I want to do is copy a file from a different directory than the one i am in without changing directories
[08:57] <llutz> bray90820: cp folder/tothe/file .
[08:58] <bray90820> I'll try it
[09:00] <bray90820> llutz: i keep typing in the relative path but it says No such file or directory
[09:00] <monkwitdafunk> hey ubuntu channel, speaking of the new long term release and its kernel diffrences with the previous generation, does that mean intels previous generation is not compatable with ubuntu
[09:00] <llutz> bray90820: then your path is wrong
[09:01] <bray90820> It's not tho which is where I am confused
[09:01] <monkwitdafunk> think about this... the best of the 65W thermal design power for the intel core 2
[09:01] <llutz> bray90820: ls -l path/to/file
[09:02] <monkwitdafunk> or the best 65W thermal design for the amd athlonx3 the hallmark of cores per dollar
[09:04] <Gr1> Hi everyone
[09:04] <bray90820> llutz: that didn't work
[09:04] <llutz> bray90820: then your path is wrong
[09:04] <bray90820> but i can cd to it just fine if i am in the root
[09:04] <llutz> bray90820: then its a permission thing
[09:04] <Gr1> I am having problems with an application to write to an lvm device
[09:04] <Gr1> could not initialize storage "/dev/vgroot/trafficserver_vol" [unable to open]
[09:05] <llutz> bray90820: so what file do you want to copy, where is it and where do you want to copy it to?
[09:05] <Gr1> Is there any way I can grant a user to give permission to write to a volume ?
[09:06] <bray90820> llutz: I figured it oyt
[09:06] <bray90820> out
[09:07] <bray90820> The file i wanted to copy was 000
[09:07] <bray90820> My bad
[09:07] <bray90820> The permissions on the file that is
[09:08] <llutz> bray90820: yep, hard to copy for a user then :)
[09:10] <pimuig> hello everyone, I just created an extended partititon. I'd like to create further partitions on it, but I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066587/
[09:11] <bray90820> llutz: oh well
[09:11] <llutz> pimuig: your disk is mounted?
[09:11] <bray90820> I will just have to go to the server tomorrow to manually copy the file
[09:12] <pimuig> llutz, no.
[09:12] <llutz> bray90820: use sudo
[09:12] <bray90820> llutz: if i has sudo permissions i would
[09:13] <llutz> bray90820: "<bray90820> but i can cd to it just fine if i am in the root"   <- su?
[09:13] <bray90820> my bad i ment ~ nor root
[09:13] <llutz> bray90820: whoops, sry i misread that
[09:13] <bray90820> ok nevermind
[09:14] <bray90820> but i ment ~and i did not mean root
[09:14] <bray90820> so we both went wrong
[09:21] <bray90820> -rw-r--r-- means i have write permissions right?
[09:21] <pimuig> llutz, disk utility program shows the extended partition as one (free) block. whereas gparted shows it scrambled into 4 partitions, which have never been created by me.
[09:24] <llutz> bray90820: yes
[09:24] <llutz> bray90820: if you are owner
[09:24] <pimuig> llutz, the referred partitions are also shown here (sdb5 and sdb6): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066634/  I haven't created them, don't know how come they show up.
[09:24] <llutz> pimuig: "sudo parted -l  |pastebinit"
[09:25] <llutz> pimuig: well, someone must have created them or your partitiontable is broken
[09:26] <ilya__> kakahrf
[09:27] <starnix> Hello penguinstas :b
[09:27] <llutz> pimuig: if you haven't created them, remove sdb5+6, create new ones you want/need
[09:27] <bray90820> llutz: thanks
[09:27] <pimuig> llutz, here is the result of sudo parted -l
[09:28] <pimuig> llutz, here is the result of sudo parted -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066642/
[09:30] <geirha> pimuig: none of the partitions on /dev/sdb appear to have any file systems
[09:32] <pimuig> geirha, I dont know how they appeared. I havent created them. can someone do that remotely?
[09:32] <nichlas> pimuig: have you used the disk before?
[09:33] <pimuig> nichlas, yes, I did. but there were no such partitions before, either
[09:33] <nichlas> pimuig: and of course someone could have done it remotely. but that would mean that they had your root password, or access to a wheel user
[09:34] <nichlas> I do things like that remotely every day :)
[09:34] <pimuig> unless someone keylogged my pc, it is not possible that they know my password, right?
[09:35] <pimuig> what is a wheel user?
[09:36] <pimuig> ok, found it : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_%28Unix_term%29
[09:36] <llutz> group "wheel" is on lots of distros what "sudo/admin" on +buntu is
[09:36] <nichlas> sorry, is it called sudoers or something like that? i forgot :)
[09:37] <mici> if youre not supposed to be able to root in ubuntu why is sudo su a legit command
[09:37] <mici> i mean not able to be
[09:37] <nichlas> pimuig: yes, it is not very likely. if they had your password they would probably do other things to your box.
[09:38] <nichlas> mici: you can limit the sudo commands in many different ways
[09:38] <nichlas> mici: and unless you sudo every command, it is to make an extra step before you fuck things up :)
[09:39] <nichlas> I think there have already been written books about that very subject, since Ubuntu was born.
[09:41] <pimuig> nichlas, I've been asking questions here about my partitions recently, during which I might have also received some links. is it possible that access to my devices would be gained this way?
[09:42] <prem> hi all
[09:42] <prem> how can i change permissions of a file in a usb which is FAT / NTFS formatted
[09:43] <prem> currently it shows "operation not permitted" even if i run chown as root user
[09:44] <mici> prem ntfs doesnt have unix permissions as is
[09:45] <prem> mici,  yes i read so., but there is should be a option or another way to do it ., right
[09:46] <nichlas> pimuig: not likely. If anyone post a link or guides you to do something that compromises your system it would not go unnoticed.
[09:46] <mici> you need to mount it with proper permissions for example sudo mount -t ntfs -o rw,auto,user,fmask=0022,dmask=0000 /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever
[09:46] <nichlas> pimuig: unless you pasted your password to paste.ubuntu.org
[09:47] <pimuig> nichlas, thank you, good to know. I just deleted the dubious partitions, even the extended partition. yet, when I then recreated the extended one, exactly the same partitions are there again now.
[09:47] <pimuig> sdb4, sdb5, sdb6
[09:47] <nichlas> pimuig: it is also very unlikely that if anyone gained access to your system, that they would start messing with your partitions. There are much more fun things to do :D
[09:48] <nichlas> pimuig: have you tried using theother partition editor to create them?
[09:48] <mici> prem also you might want to check ntfs-3g for more info about giving actual permissions to files (afaik not windows compatible)
[09:48] <nichlas> pimuig: remember, nothing is changed during the configuration. It only changes when you ask the partition editor to write the changes.
[09:49] <nichlas> oh well.. sorry to have to leave like this, but i have work bugging me
[09:50] <pimuig> nichlas, I used ubuntu disk utility to create the extended partition, it usually just creates the partition when I select the size and filesystem format.
[09:50] <kingplusplus> please how do i setup my hostname with a domain if i have not registered one. I have installed sendmail but can't use mail() ... this is how my host file looks http://pastebin.com/4jTGDzwY
[09:51] <mici> pimuig i recommend gparted :)
[09:51] <bobkosse> What domainname do you use?
[09:51] <bobkosse> thegreat?
[09:52] <mici> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~411
[09:52] <kingplusplus> bobkosse, do i need to register a domain? I am just using it for test
[09:52] <bobkosse> No, but I don't understand what you try to do?
[09:52] <mici> [Csorry! my ssh lags a bit on mobile
[09:53] <leeyaa> hello
[09:54] <bobkosse> are you builing an local application that should listen to the domain thegreat?
[09:54] <leeyaa> how to get a partition to be mounted as rw on boot? atm it gets ro only
[09:54] <kingplusplus> bobkosse, i have a script in php - contact form but without sendmail it wouldn't work cos am using mail()
[09:55] <mici> leeyaa add it in fstab maybe?
[09:55] <leeyaa> mici: i have added it to fstab
[09:56] <leeyaa> i have this /dev/sda2       /usr/local      reiserfs,notail,noatime 0       1
[09:56] <kingplusplus> bobkosse, thegreat doesn't exist as a domain, am just using since my user is user@thegreat
[09:56] <leeyaa> on another server same entry, partition gets mounted as rw
[09:56] <kingplusplus> in terminal
[09:56] <leeyaa> is there any service that executes mount -o remount,rw /usr/local or something on boot ?
[09:57] <mici> leeyaa add rw to fstab and if it doesnt work try umask=000 0 0
[09:57] <mici> or 022
[09:57] <leeyaa> mici: i would like to mount it same way as on the other server. I dont have rw or umask there
[09:57] <leeyaa> what could be the reason
[09:59] <RobDude> Hi all
[09:59] <mici> is the mount local or remote in the other server
[09:59] <leeyaa> mici: it is local
[09:59] <leeyaa> its from /dev/sda2
[10:00] <leeyaa> and the weird part is i cant even umount using umount /usr/local but i can with mount -o remount,rw /usr/local
[10:01] <mici> so this is a different computer and different hdd with different config? also does the remount rw give permissiona
[10:01] <leeyaa> mici: both are vms, setup is the same, one is a copy of the other
[10:01] <leeyaa> permissions ?
[10:03] <mici> does the mount -o remount,rw give the needed permissions? i cant think a reason why it wouldnt work the same as the other computer if they truly are identical
[10:04] <mici> unless the vm is trying to mount a phusical disk
[10:04] <mici> physical*
[10:04] <Guest43468> im trying to increase the size of my tmp psrtition temporarily by moving it to a usb stick or somryhinh
[10:04] <Guest43468> doesnt work
[10:04] <pimuig> nichlas, it seems that I cant password-protect the partition while creating it with gparted
[10:06] <Guest43468> how do i extend thre size of /tmp so i can install this famn unetbootin ubuntu
[10:08] <akaWolf> hello again! I have a strange problem with mesa lib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066804/
[10:09] <pimuig> llutz, nichlas seems to have left, could you please help me know if I can password-protect the partition while creating it with gparted?
[10:09] <akaWolf> I don't know why, but system is not trying to load a i915_dri.so
[10:10] <kingplusplus> bobkosse, pls do i need to register a true domain to be able to edit and use sendmail
[10:10] <kingplusplus> please how do i setup my hostname with a domain if i have not registered one. I have installed sendmail but can't use mail() ... this is how my host file looks http://pastebin.com/4jTGDzwY
[10:11] <Guest43468> kingplusplus: you do not need a domain
[10:12] <kingplusplus> whoami shows : user1 and on terminal my host name is thegreat so i have user1@thegreat....  tried adding .com to my hostname . i.e thegreat.com it still didn't work
[10:12] <Guest43468> but it cannot hurt
[10:12] <pimuig> does gparted enable encryption of a partition while creating it?
[10:12] <Guest43468> pimuig: looks like it does not
[10:12] <kingplusplus> Guest43468, is their anything to be done?
[10:13] <Guest43468> yes, if you are serious about email you want a domain name registered
[10:14] <pimuig> then my problem persists. disk utility gives error that I mentioned earlier, and gparted doesnt encrypt. is there maybe a third tool to create password-protected partitions?
[10:14] <Guest43468> pimuig: you can use luks
[10:14] <Guest43468> and cryptsetup
[10:14] <Guest43468> it is commandline only i think
[10:15] <Guest43468> just google what you need to do and there will be stepbystep iunstructions
[10:15] <pimuig> Guest43468, which one do you mean is commandline? luks or cryptsetup, or both?
[10:15] <Guest43468> theyre all commandline
[10:16] <Guest43468> maybe you want tryecrypt which might have a gui
[10:18] <akaWolf> hm..
[10:19] <RobDude> Can someone tell me what I should call the GUI in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <akaWolf> can anybody help me?
[10:19] <pimuig> they both look advanced tools. and truecrypt seems another story to me. why did disk utility not work, cant understand.
[10:19] <nickslave> pimuig: no idea
[10:19] <nickslave> most linux stuff may seem advanced
[10:19] <akaWolf> I have a strange issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066804/
[10:20] <akaWolf> I don't know why, but system is not trying to load a i915_dri.so
[10:21] <k1l> RobDude: can you rephrase?
[10:21] <DJones> akaWolf: You're probably better asking that in #ubuntu+1 as it looks like you're using the beta release of 14.04
[10:21] <akaWolf> DJones: it's also and on the 13.04 and 13.10
[10:22] <k1l> well, 13.04 is out of support. and 14.04 is still beta. so try with a fresh 13.10 install and show the errors again
[10:24] <pimuig> I got one step closer to why disk utility gave that error and didnt perform partitioning. It lies on the machine. I tried it on another pc and disk utility created the partition. so what might be wrong with my "device" ? (the error was: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066587/)
[10:25] <k1l> pimuig: is this a clean disk or is there something on it?
[10:25] <pimuig> k1l, the disk has data on it in other partitions.
[10:26] <k1l> pimuig: so my first guess is that is got too many primary partitions on it? can you check that
[10:27] <pimuig> k1l, yes, there are multiple partitions already. that's why I had to create the last one as an extended partition
[10:28] <RobDude> pimuig:  Are you creating a logical partition inside an extended partition?
[10:31] <pimuig> RobDude, yes
[10:32] <pimuig> RobDude, and they could not be created via disk utility on one machine, while it was smoothlessly done on another.
[10:33] <pimuig> the error on the former machine was http://paste.ubuntu.com/7066587/
[10:38] <mici> pimuig are you sure the disk isnt mounted when doing your partition changes?
[10:40] <pimuig> mici, no it wasnt mounted.
[10:44] <mici> as a workaround have you tried modifying the disk from a live disk? i had a weird similar disk issue lnce and i bootd a live disk and it worked from there
[10:44] <mici> i have no idea why because there should be nothing thar different
[10:46] <pimuig> mici, I havent tried it, but as I said, the problem didnt occur on another pc.
[10:50] <k1l> ;help
[10:54] <pimuig> strange things follow. when I inserted a usb, first the partition was shown free while it actually contained data, after which I reinserted, and the data was shown.
[10:57] <streulma> hello, my friend has an Android phone in Download mode, but the device is not recognised in Ubuntu 13.10. We had unable to enumerate usb device, error -32. How can we solve this? unbinding the device says it cannot write.
[11:01] <akaWolf> hm
[11:07] <akaWolf> can everybody help me?
[11:07] <streulma> how can we solve this ?
[11:10] <stephanie_> bonjour
[11:10] <stephanie_> des francais ici?
[11:10] <DJones> !fr | stephanie_
[11:10] <stephanie_> thx
[11:11] <tim_> dwad
[11:13] <RobDude> Can someone help me understand the difference between Display Managers (gdm, ldm, lightdm, etc...) and Window Managers (compiz, icewm, xfwm4, etc...) and X?  I hear this things all the time, but I don't get what they are
[11:16] <sujit> ...
[11:16] <streulma> what can we do with can't enumerate usb device ?
[11:22] <mraky> Hi
[11:25] <k1l> RobDude: displaymanagers start x-server and do all the hardware stuff to see something at your monitors. windowmanagers sort the actual content like the desktops and the programs that are open (like unity, gnome or kde)
[11:28] <lucido> hello, scanimage produces unopenable files: scanimage>image.pnm or with --format tiff
[11:41] <RobDude> Thank you k1l.   By default Ubuntu (at least 12.04) comes with LightDM and Unity, right?  If I change either of those, would I still say I'm using Ubuntu?
[11:41] <Guest74583> why my vi syntax on doesn't work
[11:41] <enchilado> RobDude: yes
[11:42] <RobDude> Cool - thank you
[11:42] <yanboyang>  I don't know using which command to connect Internet in terminal
[11:42] <Guest74583> me too
[11:42] <k1l> RobDude: yes, lightdm and unity are default for ubuntu. but you can install several displaymanagers or desktop enviroements. some predefined enviroments use other desktopenviroments and got special names like Lubuntu or Kubuntu
[11:43] <konraddo> hi, i recently installed newest version of xubuntu and i have a problem, when i'm using my computer, (just browsing internet, or doing anything else) the image on my display dissapears, and led diode changes it's color to yellow, it's like i would disconnect DVI cable. i'm sure that's not hardware problem, because it works fine when i'm running Windows. i couldn't find anything helpful in Google.
[11:44] <RobDude> konraddo:  How long does it take for the image to disappear?
[11:47] <konraddo> damn, it dissapeared again, so i turned on my second computer. it dissapears after random time, it may be like 5 minutes, or more
[12:01] <floridsdorf> hi
[12:11] <pimuig> thank you very much to all helping people with the problem with my disk today!
[12:16] <pimuig> seems it's the day of occurences..now I click on "empty trash" and some files and folders cannot be deleted.
[12:18] <nwe> hey, how can I do set language for lightdm user with dbus?
[12:33] <mici> pimuig what was the problem
[12:36] <busybox_> Hi
[12:36] <SirLagz> busybox_: hi
[12:37] <busybox_>  How can I create initrd image for arm qemu on a i386 machine?
[12:37] <pothos> i look for how write macro in libreoffice
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> pimuig: try trash-cli   great command
[12:48] <ice9> is there a good terminal application that support window tiling, like Terminator but better one?
[12:51] <oyvby01> Hi guys, the ability to choose login sessions appears to be missing from Ubuntu 12.04 after a reboot, and now I cant log in, or choose a session.. any ideas?
[12:56] <pimuig> ActionParsnip, should I just type trash-cli ?
[12:59] <Walex2> oyvby01: that would be part of the LightDM configuration. It ought to be there, if not check the config files.
[13:04] <rizal> izal
[13:11] <Akishona> hi ! can anyone suggest me a chat server that supports video and voice chats ?
[13:15] <HackerII> paltlk ?
[13:15] <HackerII> paltalk
[13:15] <utug12> hey rizal
[13:16] <utug12> ano mabuti ka naman
[13:17] <demianb> Hey guys. I have a bunch of directories which contain .part files that I want to delete. How can I do this in a single command? Looking at rm --help didn't give me any clues.
[13:18] <somsip> demianb: rm *.part
[13:18] <Akishona> demianb: try with find
[13:18] <somsip> demianb: sorry - ignore that
[13:20] <demianb> Akishona, okay.. rm *.part doesn't do it, because it doesn't look past the current directory.
[13:21] <somsip> demianb: here's your hint http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2016844/bash-recursively-remove-files
[13:22] <Akishona> demianb:http://linux.die.net/man/1/find   scroll down until you find the examples section
[13:22] <demianb> Thanks guys.
[13:22] <cxt> 这是什么
[13:22] <somsip> !zh | cxt
[13:29] <tunage> I have a usb device that is coming up busy, as soon as I plug it in. How do I find out what is capturing it? I how I free it up?  http://sprunge.us/KOIU
[13:29] <The-j0k3r> Hello I am unable to transfer via SSH in my ubuntu, here i have login via SSH in host system, But I am unable to transfer file from my local computer. http://pastebin.com/krQSx7Kb
[13:29] <The-j0k3r> file*
[13:31] <tunage> The-j0k3r scp /source/fine/name /dest/file/name
[13:32] <bipul> tunage, ?
[13:32] <demianb> I am able to get a list of my desired files using: find -name *.part -type f -print
[13:32] <jonnyw2k-work> bipul, scp j0k3r@host:/full/path/to/file /home/host/file
[13:32] <bipul> Check the pastebin, I have used that Syntax
[13:32] <demianb> But when I try to delete them by using command, find -name *.part -type f -print | xargs /bin/rm -f , I get error file not found.
[13:33] <jonnyw2k-work> bipul, you did /home/host not /home/host/file
[13:33] <jonnyw2k-work> it probably wont work but worth a try
[13:33] <Toaster_Strudel> any disk cleanup utilities for ubuntu to automatically find and delete old cached files or source files
[13:34] <Toaster_Strudel> I'm low on disk space
[13:34] <sletenbliz> please help-me, 'find ./ -name "teste.*" -exec .ms '{}' \;' , this '.ms' is a file in current directory, but my '.ms' not run =/
[13:35] <nibbler__> sletenbliz: maybe you mean ./ms or ./.ms?
[13:35] <somsip> sletenbliz: ./ms maybe? Or ./.ms if it really is dotted
[13:36] <sletenbliz> somsip: ./.ms
[13:36] <nibbler__> sletenbliz: so write it that way...
[13:36] <sletenbliz> somsip:  'find ./ -name "teste.*" -exec echo "test test" >> {} \;'  <<< not functionally o.O
[13:37] <bipul> jonnyw2k-work, http://pastebin.com/k2dKz0n1 nops see this please it's not working.
[13:37] <nibbler__> i'd guess the input redirection would apply to the find in this case
[13:37] <sletenbliz> hm
[13:37] <nibbler__> output redirection, of course
[13:40] <bipul> KIndly help me any one I am unable to tranfer a file via ssh. http://pastebin.com/k2dKz0n1
[13:40] <sletenbliz> nibbler__:  not functionally = find /home/sletenbliz/dirtest/ -name "test.*" -exec echo "test test" >> {} \;
[13:40] <sletenbliz> =/
[13:40] <jonnyw2k-work> bipul, host@host-A:~$ scp j0k3r@192.168.56.1:/home/j0k3r/index.sh /home/host/index.sh
[13:40] <DVA5912> ahhh, Good ole Ubuntu, How ive missed this room lol
[13:41] <tunage> I have a usb device that is coming up busy, as soon as I plug it in. How do I find out what is capturing it? I how I free it up?  http://bpaste.net/show/f5DkWD0wGdH0mMVwp5TQ/
[13:41] <tunage> The-j0k3r scp /source/fine/name /dest/file/name
[13:41] <jonnyw2k-work> your scp seems broken lol
[13:41] <tunage> bipul scp /source/fine/name /dest/file/name
[13:42] <bipul> tunage, check the pastebin I did what you said and tutorial says. But not working.
[13:42] <tunage> bipul I saw you did everything but fi=ull file names.
[13:42] <TechnoTim> I have a VM someone else set up where the permissions are sticky so if you add a file it inherits permissions from the folder how is this done?
[13:42] <tunage> full
[13:42] <jonnyw2k-work> bipul, what about the other way so from 56.101 to 56.1
[13:43] <sletenbliz> please... find . -name "testeporra.*" -exec echo "aff aff " >> {} \; << this is functionally, ------- find /home/sletenbliz/dirtest/ -name "test.*" -exec echo "test test" >> {} \; << not functionally, help-me on pipe redirection?
[13:43] <sletenbliz> LOL sorry
[13:43] <sletenbliz> find /home/sletenbliz/dirtest/ -name "test.*" -exec echo "teste:" } \;
[13:43] <sletenbliz> is a correty...
[13:44] <bipul> .101 is mine VirtualBox os host runing Ubuntu and .1 is mine main computer where i have index.sh file
[14:00] <guillermo_> fdf
[14:00] <guillermo_> f
[14:00] <guillermo_> f
[14:00] <guillermo_> f
[14:00] <guillermo_> f
[14:13] <tunage> I have a usb device that is coming up busy, as soon as I plug it in. How do I find out what is capturing it? I how I free it up?  http://bpaste.net/show/f5DkWD0wGdH0mMVwp5TQ/
[14:15] <basketballllll> Launchpad sakd my bug report was a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289251 but there is nkthing in that link
[14:20] <Guest56121> why i am guest?
[14:21] <somsip> !nickserv | Guest56121
[14:23] <quinman22> I can't seem to disable alt menukeys in gnome-terminal in 14.04, anyone else having this problem?
[14:23] <somsip> !14.04 | quinman22
[14:23] <Toaster_Strudel> any good disk auto-cleanup type utilities for ubuntu??
[14:24] <somsip> !info bleachbit | Toaster_Strudel
[14:24] <HackerII> autoclean
[14:24] <Toaster_Strudel> somsip: thanks!
[14:24] <tunage> Toaster_Strudel fschk?
[14:24] <quinman22> I'm guessing you're telling me that no support is offered on unreleased software? I was asking to see if I should report it as a bug or not
[14:25] <somsip> quinman22: best to ask for help in the support channel, and take it from there depending on their response
[14:25] <quinman22> thanks
[14:25] <DJones> quinman22: 14.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 which is what the link was pointing you to
[14:25] <Toaster_Strudel> ubottu, 3,546kb
[14:27] <Minja> quit
[14:29] <Toaster_Strudel> bleachbit is what I was looking for.. pretty nifty
[14:29] <vmos> hello, anyone know how to upgrade ubuntu server 12.10 to 13.04 ? I've tried do-release-upgrade with and without -d and it just wants to go straight to 14.04
[14:29] <Toaster_Strudel> thanks again
[14:30] <compdoc> vmos, might be best to wait for 14.04
[14:31] <k1l> vmos: -d is for development releases
[14:31] <k1l> vmos: why do you even want to to that?
[14:31] <k1l> !eol | vmos
[14:31] <k1l> vmos: 13.04 is out of support since january
[14:32] <vmos> because I need certain packages to be at certain versions and there are no PPAs available for 14.04 yet and compiling from source is a pain in the hole
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !server|vmos,
[14:32] <mastershake> hello, shockwave flash in chromium Version 32.0.1700.107 on Ubuntu 13.10 perpetually crashes when trying to load media. This problem is not present with Firefox. can someone help me fix this?
[14:32] <k1l> vmos: see the EOLupgrades. 13.04 is gone
[14:33] <fishbrain> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my launch window (one that opens with windows key) opens empty. typing application name won't work either.
[14:33] <danialr> how can i transfer directory to remote using lftp ? for get directory i use mirror but what is command for transfer directory ?
[14:39] <jtrucks> anyone know wbhy the 12.04 LTS ntop package web UI doesn't work out of the box?
[14:41] <kyfella> user@computer:~$ python
[14:41] <kyfella> Python 2.6.7 (r267:88850, Oct 30 2013, 23:25:06)
[14:41] <kyfella> [GCC 4.8.1] on linux3
[14:41] <kyfella> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[14:41] <kyfella> >>> import gtk
[14:41] <kyfella> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:41] <kyfella>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
[14:41] <kyfella> ImportError: No module named gtk
[14:41] <kyfella> >>>
[14:41] <kyfella> anyone have any ideas on this one?  I have installed The Saucy Salamander (current stable release) GTK+ 3.4 series, gir1.2-gtk-3.0_3.8.6-0ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb (165.5 KiB)
[14:41] <kyfella> 3.8.6-0ubuntu3.1
[14:42] <kyfella> Can anyone give me a clue?
[14:42] <k1l> !paste | kyfella
[14:42] <kyfella> This comes as a result of working with bleachbit
[14:43] <kyfella> user@computer:~$ bleachbit
[14:43] <kyfella> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:43] <kyfella>   File "/usr/bin/bleachbit", line 41, in <module>
[14:43] <kyfella>     import gtk
[14:43] <kyfella> ImportError: No module named gtk
[14:43] <kyfella>  
[14:43] <k1l> kyfella: stop that
[14:44] <k1l> kyfella: use a pasteservice
[14:44] <kyfella> oh stop complaining.
[14:44] <kyfella> im trying to get some help
[14:44] <k1l> kyfella: like: http://pastebin.com/
[14:45] <k1l> kyfella: no, i suggest you re-read the channel guidelines. please stick to the rules to keep a warm and friendly enviroment for all users. thanks
[14:45] <kyfella> thx, I will kee that in mind.  Do you know of the answer to the question or am I waisting my time in here
[14:49] <slowcon> hey guys, wondering if anyone has sucessfully setup RDP(or similiar enviornment) on ubuntu server with desktop(gnome) 12.04
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !server|slowcon,
[14:49] <heliospan> I want to start ssh on every boot. I can start it manually with 'sudo service ssh start'. How do I edit the upstart file, or is there a simple command I can issue to start the service at boot?
[14:49] <slowcon> thanks cfhowlett, didnt know there was ubuntu-server
[14:49] <cfhowlett> slowcon, no worries.  hope it helps
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> heliospan: if you add the command above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local  it will run at boot
[14:50] <heliospan> ActionParsnip: thanks, giving that a try
[14:51] <cfhowlett> kyfella, wall of post is not helping your cause.  use paste options
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !paste
[14:51] <ws2k3__> Hello, i have an question, i have 2 servers doing the same thing have the same stats the server on ubuntu 11.04 has a load of 0,05 and the ubuntu 12.04 has a load of 1.50, is there changed something in the load mesure?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !server|ws2k3 might be a better place to ask
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !attitude|kyfella,
[14:52] <ra21vi> is there any tool or mature/stable python binding to extract text from PDF which will install and work without X (pure server mode)
[14:52] <k1l> heliospan: if you install the openssh server package that should already autostart
[14:52] <heliospan> ActionParsnip: thanks, that worked (good enough for what I need). But is rc deprecated?
[14:52] <jdo_dk> I have an ubuntu server, where postfix maillog ends into syslog. System is running rsyslog and ubuntu 13.10
[14:53] <jnoob22> ra21vi, as in a library? are you trying to convert pdf to text possibly?
[14:53] <heliospan> k1l: ok, thats what I thought, but its a virtual machine image with this stuff pre-installed.
[14:54] <ra21vi> jnoob22: i need to extract text from pdf to index that so I can search it by its content
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !server|jdo_dk, might want to check in #server channel
[14:54] <heliospan> k1l: its good enough just editing the /etc/rc.local file, just using ssh to connect using host-only adapter in VirtualBox
[14:54] <jnoob22> ra21vi, hmm maybe you can use pdfbox
[14:54] <jdo_dk> ra21vi: Have you looked into solr ?
[14:55] <jnoob22> we use that inside Alfresco for indexing pdf files
[14:55] <ra21vi> jdo_dk: i would prefer ElasticSearch :) ...
[14:55] <jdo_dk> ra21vi: ok. :)
[14:56] <cfhowlett> ra21vi, might want to ask #python channel
[14:56] <ra21vi> jnoob22: I have read about pdfbox, its java based. I need either pure cmd tool or some python binding/library
[14:56] <jnoob22> jdo_dk, does Solr index pdf files as text?
[14:56] <jnoob22> hmm #python someone can help you if you need python specific. im pretty sure python has a lib for that sort of thing
[14:56] <ra21vi> cfhowlett: yes good idea.. I would ask in there
[14:56] <jnoob22> may not be as robust or stable as the Java one but they should have one.
[14:59] <Kilos> good afternoon from south africa all
[15:00] <jdo_dk> jnoob22: solr have a plugins so it can index rich documents.
[15:00] <Kilos> has anyone managed to get a d-link dwm-156 working on 12.04 please
[15:01] <jdo_dk> jnoob22: https://wiki.apache.org/solr/ExtractingRequestHandler
[15:01] <ra21vi> poppler-utils have pdftotext .. how do I find if it will require X
[15:03] <Kilos> I have tried all the infoe on what google finds but no success here
[15:06] <EleanorEllis> !offtopic
[15:08] <Ackis> hey everyone, anyone have a recommendation for some sort of log analysis software?  Looking for something to scan logs on my home server and point out things to investigate
[15:08] <jamesd> Ackis: not quite what you want, but i like splunk
[15:09] <Moros> I agree with jamesd
[15:10] <Ackis> jamesd, Moros: thanks, something for me to look in to at least
[15:10] <maveas> Ackis: LogAnalyzer
[15:11] <Moros> There are others offcourse, there is Logstash and kibana
[15:11] <Moros> But you better do your own research i guess
[15:12] <Ackis> this gives me a starting point, when I searched there were countless results and I wasn't sure what to start with
[15:14] <ifiifjif> hey ActionParsnip
[15:14] <harris> do you remember me
[15:16] <jtrucks> has anyone used provided ntop package recently on any modern versino of ubuntu and had the web UI work out of the box?
[15:18] <oyvby01> Walex2: the entire ubuntu-desktop was missing, thnx for the ups anyways :)
[15:22] <craigbass1976> I've got a pdf plueprint that's not to scale, and I'm trying to figure out how long some walls are.  Is there any kind of application that will do this for me?  I've googled (well, DDG'ed) for stuff and looked on sourceforge, but I'm not seeing anything yet.  Not even sure what the correct term for the process is called.
[15:25] <ukfromit> adzapper and squidguard are not working together at the same time on ubuntu 12.04
[15:25] <ukfromit> adzapper and squidguard are not working together at the same time on ubuntu 12.04
[15:26] <ukfromit> is there any help available
[15:26] <ukfromit> adzapper and squidguard are not working together at the same time on ubuntu 12.04
[15:26] <cfhowlett> !patience|ukfromit,
[15:27] <ukfromit> okay
[15:31] <jonoinfrance> Hi guys, got a funny one for you. I'm looking for something that will slow a terminal down, preferably some kind of printed character. I would like the printing of said char to freeze the execution of the program for a bit. I tried with the bell char but even though it slows the term down a lot, the program is executed in parallel.
[15:33] <ukfromit> adzapper and squidguard are not working together at the same time on ubuntu 12.04
[15:33] <average> hey
[15:33] <average> how do I read linux's dns cache ?
[15:34] <average> I know this might seem like a weird question but I just don't know
[15:34] <parrellel> I'm pretty sure there isn't one by default
[15:35] <average> in Ubuntu then..
[15:37] <bunjee> newby here...........can anyone explain to me how to install Chromium wb browser in Trusty 14.
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !trusty|bunjee,
[15:38] <DJones> bunjee: sudo apt-get chromium-browser should do the job, just bear in mind any support for 14.04 will be in #ubuntu+1 until released in April
[15:38] <parrellel> something like sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart
[15:39] <bunjee> ubottu.........I installed Trusty 14.04 and during the installation process the readouts explained it was possible to install Chromium after install was complete.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> bunjee: if you are asking questions like that I dont suggest you use prerelease at all
[15:39] <cfhowlett> bunjee, as stated: trust support is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:41] <raj__> I can run a software very properly in the foreground using <software name> -f  but when I try to run the software  as a service in ubuntu that fails eventually like this:  Initially I get the status as running but very soon it says * could not access pidfile for <software>
[15:42] <raj__> any ideas,anyone ?
[15:42] <raj__> This used to work previously
[15:42] <geirha> raj__: Have you checked its log files?
[15:43] <raj__> yeah .. nothing is written to them
[15:44] <junkanoo> running ubuntu gnome... two questions... how can I create left and right workspaces... or a workspace grid
[15:44] <junkanoo> and... how can i set a virtualbox image to auto-start on a particular workspace
[15:46] <jonoinfrance> Hi guys, got a funny one for you. I'm looking for something that will slow a terminal down, preferably some kind of printed character. I would like the printing of said char to freeze the execution of the program for a bit. I tried with the bell char but even though it slows the term down a lot, the program is executed in parallel.
[15:46] <gvo> ctrl-s ??
[15:46] <raj__> geirha: yeah ..did checked the logs .. nothing is written to them. initially status is running but later it says  * could not access pidfile for <software>
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> jonoinfrance: pipe it into less
[15:47] <gvo> Sorry I think you wanted to control the speed from the program.
[15:47] <nohazmony> hai
[15:48] <nohazmony> can iu prise halp mi instal ubonto?
[15:48] <nohazmony> ey, nerds, plise, halp mi
[15:49] <sudormrf> I smell a banning about to happen :)
[15:49] <nohazmony> mi dakstope iz black bicose of ubonto shit
[15:49] <nohazmony> plise halp
[15:50] <nohazmony> sory  mi bad englich
[15:50] <k1l> nohazmony: you you please try to use plain english and keep the language family friendly?
[15:50] <nohazmony> i ned halp wit mi dakstop
[15:50] <nohazmony> me instal ubonto and blak
[15:51] <nohazmony> say eror
[15:51] <k1l> !pt | nohazmony try this if its too hard to write in english
[15:51] <kriel> How do I find the path to a command? For instance, in a terminal, i can type 'gedit' to open.. well.. gedit. but I'm trying to associate text files with gedit in another app, and it wants the path to the 'executable'. (yay for cross platform apps)
[15:51] <nohazmony> mi no br
[15:52] <nohazmony> mi espanol
[15:52] <jonoinfrance> The main idea is a server running a service. When it receives input from a client, the input is printed. I'd like the printing to freeze the execution of the thread for a while. I thought the bell char would do it but apparently not
[15:52] <nohazmony> pero viviendo en portugal
[15:52] <kriel> !es
[15:52] <Walex2> kriel: that's not a totally well defined concept
[15:53] <nohazmony> ubottu me ayudas? mi computador esta estropeado, se queda negro
[15:53] <Walex2> kriel: however you can use the commands "which" and "type" to locate *executables*. For file association to applications things are not as simple as you think.
[15:53] <kriel> Walex2: okay. Let me ask a different way. On windoze, I could right click a shortcut and it would tell me 'firefox' lives at c:\program files\mozilla\firefox.exe. How do I ask linux where gedit is, in \bin\wherever\idontknowthispath\gedit
[15:53] <k1l> nohazmony: the bot gave you 2 channels where you can talk in spanish or portuguese. better try them
[15:54] <nohazmony> callate cono, no me has ayudado, vosotros son cancers
[15:54] <kriel> all the shortcuts (.desktop files) i could find just refer to 'gedit', but filezilla (the app i'm asking about) won't take it. says it's not a valid path.
[15:55] <Walex2> kriel: a shortcut in MS-Windows is not an executable, it is a file pointing at an executable.
[15:55] <nohazmony> k1l  eres una mierda cabron
[15:55] <nohazmony> tu madre es una puta de mierda
[15:55] <docepoeta> hello ppl
[15:56] <kriel> nohazmony: no habla espanol. are you speaking spanish?
[15:56] <Walex2> kriel: 'which' and 'type' for executables
[15:56] <docepoeta> im portuguse
[15:56] <docepoeta> any woman talk to me?
[15:56] <kriel> Walex2: got it. Thanks.
[15:56] <xangua> docepoeta: wrong channel, wrong network
[15:57] <Walex2> kriel: but note that some file associations require '.desktop' paths and some require executable paths.
[15:57] <kriel> Walex2: I'm still newish to linux, I don't have all the syntax down. I come from a windoze background.
[15:58] <kriel> problem solved, so thanks for that, but i'd like to hear more if you have the time, or can point me towards a lightweight reference.
[15:58] <gvo> kriel many of the commands you use are in /usr/bin or /bin
[15:58] <Walex2> kriel: look for example at 'man xdg-mime' and at 'man 5 mailcap'
[15:59] <Walex2> kriel: fortunately for you GNU/Linux is become ever more similar in design to MS-Windows :-(.
[16:00] <kriel> from what i can tell, there're still core distinctions in the way the filesystem works. Yes, they're coming to a kind of convergence, but because of the way its rooted, things work differently.
[16:00] <kriel> I actually just moved back from win7 to (L)ubuntu, and I forgot how much I liked it. I'm getting reacquainted.
[16:01] <kriel> last i was here was.. whatever the LTS before 12.04 was.
[16:01] <kriel> cuz i got annoyed at unity on the ubuntu dist.
[16:01] <Walex2> kriel: actually as to "the way its rooted" NTFS works almost the same as GNU/Linux filesystems and things like volumes and drive letters in MS-Windows NT are actually MS-DOS emulations for backwards compatibility.
[16:02] <kriel> Walex2: i was referring to the way everything's split up into {/var, /dev, /etc, etc} and the concept of 'everything is a file or a folder'.
[16:04] <Walex2> kriel: GNU/Linux is becoming ever more MS-Windows like in those two ways :-(
[16:04] <Walex2> kriel: but fortunately rather slowly.
[16:05] <kriel> Walex2: ...really? =(
[16:05] <k1l> Walex2: kriel can you guys talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic and stick to specific ubuntu support in here? thanks
[16:05] <kriel> k1l: sorry about that. Thanks for helping me with my problem.
[16:06] <k1l> kriel: if the program destination is in $PATH there is no need to give the fullpath.
[16:07] <gvo> If $PATH is defined
[16:07] <k1l> gvo: which is on a standard ubuntu :)
[16:08] <kriel> k1l: the (app)? I was using wanted the fullpath. dunno why. Walex2 pointed out 'which gedit' which gave me the path i needed. problem is solved :)
[16:11] <Tom1> hello
[16:12] <jnoob22> err hello Tom1
[16:14] <fartface> I'm getting messages that /boot is full (12.04.03 x64), and from what I've read I need to remove some of the older files in that directory.  The thread was from 2010 though, so is it safe to remove all files for each of the file sets (abi, config, initrd, memtest86, System.map, and vmlinuz) except for the two most recent in order to free up space?
[16:14] <fartface> Since the files listed in the thread would be out of date in comparison to the ones I have in my directory
[16:14] <Meerkat> you probably only need to remove old unused kernels. I have to do that as well every now and then.
[16:15] <fartface> The initrd.img files?
[16:16] <fartface> Ah, I should just move them to /home and then if I run into issues I can move them back rather than remove
[16:17] <zorael> Is there any way to access the previous version of a ppa package?
[16:17] <k1l> fartface: you can remove old kernels with their packages (linux-image-......) that will clean the /boot folder, too
[16:17] <fartface> Ah, that might be safer
[16:17] <jstew> Hi. I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on a mid-2012 macbook air. I updated os x, and now I can't boot. I'm booting with grub via EFI. Any ideas?
[16:18] <k1l> fartface: yep. and dont forget the linux-header-... packages to that kernels.
[16:18] <leeyaa> hello
[16:18] <leeyaa> how to stop network manager adding nameserver 127.0.0.1 to my resolv.conf ?
[16:18] <jstew> I already tried booting via install disk, chrooting, and running update-grub. That didn't work.
[16:19] <iptable> leeyaa, I opted for chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf ;) - immunizing file
[16:19] <leeyaa> iptable: i dont think i want to do this
[16:19] <leeyaa> any alternative ?
[16:20] <iptable> leeyaa, alternatively you may look into the configuration of dnsmasq - which is what actually does the change.
[16:20] <leeyaa> i might as well remove resolvconf package
[16:20] <iptable> leeyaa, and on top of that you can reconfigure the resolvconf package, adding appropriate header/footer lines
[16:20] <dryicebomb> jstew: maybe this will help, I had to do these steps on my pro http://www.billsdon.com/2011/12/install-linux-mint-12-lisa-13inch-macbook-air-4-2-2011-model/
[16:20] <BLZbubba> why does ubuntu desktop ignore sysctl.conf?
[16:20] <leeyaa> iptable: hm but i have no localhost line in resolvconf
[16:20] <fartface> k1l: Hmm, can't even use dpkg at the moment so I may have to manually remove
[16:21] <BLZbubba> the first thing I have to do to boot all my ubuntu desktops is run sysctl -p
[16:21] <iptable> leeyaa, but dnsmasq is what normally works with network-manager to change the resolv.conf and add 127.0.0.1.
[16:21] <iptable> leeyaa, localhost line? I thought you said you have "nameserver 127.0.0.1" in your resolv.conf?
[16:21] <leeyaa> iptable: thats localhost isnt it ;p
[16:22] <Walex2> BLZbubba: does it? Then it is one of the cases where the local sysadm is expected to do their thing with '/etc/rc.local' for example
[16:22] <jstew> dryicebomb: Yeah, that is for hybrid MBR. I'm booting straight from efi. Using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy
[16:22] <iptable> leeyaa, you said you had that line. now you say you don't have it.
[16:22] <jstew> was working great until the OS X update fucked it all up.
[16:22] <Tom1> my led monitors makes clicking sound.
[16:22] <leeyaa> iptable: i have it in resolv.conf after i restart networking for so me reason
[16:22] <junkanoo> is there a gnome shell irc?
[16:22] <iptable> leeyaa, alternatively install nm-tools and use nmcli to change network-manager config.
[16:23] <fartface> Nevermind I killed the rogue process and it's fine now
[16:23] <junkanoo> using ubuntu gnome and have a question about gnome 3.9 vs. 3.10
[16:23] <jstew> Ah, nm.... I think I know the problem after looking at that article again. Mac OS must have switched the boot order in EFI.
[16:24] <iptable> leeyaa, so, as I said, reconfigure dnsmasq, change network-manager config and/or modify resolvconf config
[16:24] <iptable> leeyaa, all 3 work together to provide the service
[16:25] <iptable> leeyaa, but you would be best off leaving the automatic adding of 127.0.0.1 alone and just reconfigure dnsmasq (which is the localhost service) to query the upstream nameserver of your choice.
[16:25] <leeyaa> iptable: i prefer if i dont install extra packages as i need to do it on few more boxes with legacy ubuntu. what could add nameserver to resolv.conf ?
[16:26] <leeyaa> if not resolvconf
[16:26] <n0x_42> I have a shared directory on a ubuntu machine that I am trying to share between OS X and Windows computers. I have my users in a group and the group has read & execute/read/write permissions. When I connect from my windows computers and try to create a file/directory in the shared directory I get an error saying I don't have permsssion.
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, the idea of putting 127.0.0.1 into resolv.conf and using dnsmasq as a configured forwarding nameserver is to try and run away from the limitations of resolv.conf.
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, do you have dnsmasq running on those? I'm not saying "add".
[16:26] <leeyaa> iptable: is that a service or something ?
[16:26] <iptable> oh boy
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, as root: netstat -anp |grep LISTEN |grep 53
[16:27] <iptable> leeyaa, check the PID, ps -ef |grep PID and check the name
[16:27] <kriel> i'd like to set up an ubuntu kiosk machine, where on startup it runs one program, and when that one program exits it shuts down. suggestions?
[16:27] <n0x_42> I also have samba users created and associated with the shared directory.
[16:27] <Meerkat> fartface, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[16:27] <Meerkat> there is a guide you can use
[16:27] <iptable> leeyaa, typically you get network-manager+dnsmasq+resolvconf alltogether. In ubuntu certainly.
[16:27] <Meerkat> scroll down to 'synaptic' for the easiest method.
[16:28] <leeyaa> iptable: well there is bind on this box yes, it is my local dns server
[16:28] <Meerkat> Bookmark the page for the future. You will need to do this again in a year or so.
[16:28] <iptable> leeyaa, ok, so you got bind instead of dnsmasq. so what is wrong with querying your local bind?
[16:28] <Walex2> Tom1: that clicking sound issue is probably more a topic for #hardware
[16:29] <iptable> leeyaa, I'm guessing you use DHCP(?), otherwise you would not have this problem.
[16:29] <Walex2> Tom1: but it may simply be the power supply/converter inside the screen
[16:29] <leeyaa> iptable: actually nothing. i just want to make it identical to others (same config, same ubuntu, different behaviour)
[16:29] <leeyaa> no static ips
[16:29] <kriel> got it. nvm.
[16:29] <Walex2> n0x_42: that is a difficult topic. The big question is: how do the server and the client agree on user names?
[16:30] <iptable> leeyaa, so when you put static DNS configuration in the GUI network manager, what happens?
[16:30] <leeyaa> iptable: there is no gui
[16:30] <n0x_42> Well, from the windows side, when I connect to the client I just enter in the user info of the user that was created on the ubuntu computer.
[16:30] <leeyaa> here, on same ubuntu, different server, no 127 entry in resolv.conf http://bpaste.net/show/sM72LJdJHDY3ezEuvGfe/
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, uhm. what version of ubuntu we talking about anyways?
[16:31] <n0x_42> I wouldn't actually need to create the same users on the client would I?
[16:31] <leeyaa> iptable: 6
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, 6 what?
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, there is no such thing as version 6 of ubuntu
[16:31] <Cpt_Gyle> hi
[16:31] <leeyaa> oh wait, its precise
[16:31] <leeyaa> Codename:	precise
[16:32] <leeyaa> 12.04 LTS
[16:32] <leeyaa> but i bot some hardy servers too
[16:32] <leeyaa> same config
[16:32] <iptable> leeyaa, so why did you say "legacy ubuntu"?
[16:32] <n0x_42> For example, let's say I have tom and mark as users in the group shared. Those users are on ubuntu. When I connect to the shared directory from Windows I connect as user tom. The group shared has read/write/execute permissions on the shared directory. Since tom is a part of that group, he should have the same permissions correct?
[16:33] <leeyaa> leeyaa: i thought that server is hardy or what do you call it the one before, drapper or something like that. but it is another server
[16:33] <leeyaa> anyway how to stop it adding nameserver 127.0.0.1
[16:33] <iptable> leeyaa, I really need to know the version to tell you. different version, different way
[16:34] <leeyaa> iptable: http://bpaste.net/show/inD4rbnhRSmJbUZFrGjT/
[16:34] <leeyaa> this is my working server
[16:34] <leeyaa> and this is the one that keeps messing with my resolv.conf
[16:34] <leeyaa> http://bpaste.net/show/S9VqJfaHqqdNx5RrSgsC/
[16:34] <iptable> leeyaa, you do realise that it is no longer supported, right? for many years as well.
[16:35] <A1Recon> I disabled the UEFI before installing Win 7 64bit on my Laptop. Now when I want to install Ubuntu 13.10 with UEFi disabled, the BIOS does not detect USB device. Why is this happening?
[16:35] <leeyaa> iptable: yes, the one that i need to fix is 12.04 LTS
[16:35] <iptable> leeyaa, uhm, so why you telling me about the other one?
[16:35] <leeyaa> iptable: i was thinking im on another server, confused both of us, just forget it
[16:36] <leeyaa> how to fix it on 12.04
[16:36] <leeyaa> yes i could just chattr it but it is stupid
[16:36] <iptable> leeyaa, nameserver 127.0.0.1 is NOT considered broken. What is the actual issue you are seeing with that as nameserver? this is by design.
[16:36] <iptable> leeyaa, what is stupid is trying to change the design
[16:36] <leeyaa> iptable: to make it identical with others
[16:36] <leeyaa> you are sure it is by design ?
[16:37] <leeyaa> what about for older versions ?
[16:37] <iptable> leeyaa, yes. you cannot make an OS from 2012 be the same as one from 2008. That's 4 years. In a windows world it would be like trying to make windows 2003 server the same as windows 2000 server.
[16:38] <leeyaa> iptable: i understand. im just used to make everything identical to avoid problems.
[16:39] <iptable> leeyaa, in 2008 the design was different and we normally put the nameservers in resolv.conf. in 2012, we put it differently. preferable for network-manager setups is to have 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf and make a local dns server listen on 127.0.0.1 and forward requests to the configured name server in it.
[16:39] <leeyaa> btw the issue is resolves hosts outside my local dns zone very slow.
[16:39] <iptable> leeyaa, making everything identical WILL cause problems.
[16:40] <leeyaa>  but i guess i should look into my bind config
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, yes, it's the bind config that is at fault.
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, use forwarders in bind config to forward to the DNS servers you want to
[16:40] <leeyaa> thanks iptable
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, why are you using network-manager anyways?
[16:40] <usr13> iptable: leeyaa If you remove the network-manager package, you can go back to the old way of doing things.
[16:40] <leeyaa> iptable: no idea, i inherited this insane setup
[16:41] <iptable> leeyaa, is the server connected via wifi?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> iptable: any address in 127.0.0.0/8 is localhost
[16:41] <leeyaa> im coming from centos world
[16:41] <dmarr> i changed the sources list to saucy now apt-get install shows a bunch of packages to be removed which i know is not right (it tries to remove apt). also lsb_release shows 14.04, i switched things back to saucy to try to downgrade and i think i've royally screwed things up
[16:41] <leeyaa> iptable: no, vm cluster
[16:41] <iptable> leeyaa, I don't see a reason to have network-manager on a static server, but it could just be me
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> iptable: you can pig 127.254.254.254   and it will reply
[16:41] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. I learnt it on CCNA, thanks.
[16:41] <dmarr> err, i tried upgrading to trusty by manually changing
[16:41] <usr13> iptable: I agree.
[16:41] <leeyaa> iptable: i totally agree, i was planning to remove it, but wasnt sure if it is the reiht way for ubuntu
[16:41] <leeyaa> right*
[16:42] <iptable> leeyaa, when you install ubuntu server, you get it WITHOUT network manager, which is the right way for ubuntu
[16:42] <iptable> leeyaa, someone installed it there.
[16:42] <leeyaa> i see
[16:42] <leeyaa> great, so i will just remove resolvconf package
[16:42] <leeyaa> and be done with it
[16:43] <xangua> dmarr: If you want to go back to saucy, backup and reinstall
[16:43] <leeyaa> thank you iptable
[16:43] <iptable> leeyaa, and network-manager. then reconfigure all your interfaces using /etc/network/interfaces
[16:43] <iptable> leeyaa, no problem. make sure you got iLO or physical access or such like to the server first.
[16:43] <iptable> usr13, why thank you :)
[16:44] <leeyaa> iptable: i do, i have vmware kvm and xen as hosts
[16:44] <usr13> leeyaa: If you sudo apt-get remove network-manager you'll want to edit /etc/network/interfaces   for IP configuration, (and use /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver IP).
[16:44] <iptable> ActionParsnip, sorry, when I pig 127.254.254.254 it does not reply. PING on the other hand works, but still no replies ;) now go figure :P
[16:44] <leeyaa> user1: thats the way i am used to usr13
[16:44] <iptable> ActionParsnip, it';s a game btw. I do know the answer :D
[16:45] <usr13> ActionParsnip: How about just ping 127.0.0.1  ?
[16:45] <iptable> leeyaa, and that's the preferred way on ubuntu server. someone just configured it different for one reason or another.
[16:46] <leeyaa> iptable: well it is weird, this setup is like 10y old now. someone didnt know what they were doing i guess
[16:46] <leeyaa> and now i have to fix their mess
[16:46] <iptable> usr13, that's not enough digits for some :P On another note, the security-sick admins will block addresses other than 127.0.0.1 unless otherwise needed for some obscure reasons I am dimly aware of :D
[16:46] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Actually, they both work for me.  ping  127.254.254.254   #Also pings..
[16:47] <leeyaa> iptable: i got outgoing icmp requests blocked in one of my dcs :D
[16:47] <iptable> leeyaa, don't want to be a pain in the ***, but ubuntu 8.04 is from 2008, which is 6 years old, not 10 :P
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> usr13: its yin the same subnet, it will all work
[16:47] <leeyaa> iptable: i told you i have ubuntu 6 too whatever the version is ;p dont know what they were using before that but setup is about 10y old now
[16:47] <iptable> ActionParsnip, nope. as just stated, it might not as some security-panicy admins do iptables rules to block IPs other than 127.0.0.1
[16:48] <leeyaa> iptable: Description:	Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[16:48] <leeyaa> :D
[16:48] <compdoc> old old
[16:48] <leeyaa> insane
[16:48] <iptable> leeyaa, 6.06 is STILL not 10yo. That's 8, but close :D
[16:48] <jorn_> Anyone know of a workaround of missing ia32-libs in 14.04.. Aftershot Pro requires the package...
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> iptable: depends on firewalls but the default setup will ping as any ip in the range will reply from the same pc
[16:48] <iptable> jorn_, yes, install ia32-libs
[16:48] <leeyaa> iptable: really un responsible admins out there
[16:49] <iptable> leeyaa, yes.
[16:49] <jorn_> iptable : it's depricated in 14.04 :/
[16:49] <sbol> hi, quick question: where can I find the config file for nautilus? I'm trying to change it so that the bookmarks sidebar doesn't appear in the Open File dialog (used by browsers, for example)
[16:49] <iptable> ActionParsnip, "default setup" with ubuntu server with network-manager installed is a big assumption on your side
[16:50] <sudormrf> hey guys, if I modify rc.local do I need to "update" anything to ensure that whatever I added to rc.local will actually happen at startup?
[16:50] <Rory> nope sudormrf
[16:50] <genii> sudormrf: No
[16:50] <sudormrf> sweet :)
[16:50] <iptable> jorn_, ia32-libs is just a meta-package to pull loads of 32bit packages
[16:51] <jorn_> iptable : I've tried to install the suggested packages : lib32z1 , lib32ncurses5 and lib32bz2-1.0, but it does not work..
[16:51] <iptable> jorn_, run ldd /your/binary to find out what is needed and install only those 32bit libs (like libname:i386)
[16:51] <genii> ia32-libs was replaced with multiarch
[16:51] <jorn_> iptable : I know, but it does not exist in 14.04s pool
[16:51] <somsip_> jorn_: you're better off asking in #ubuntu+1 which is support for 14.04
[16:51] <iptable> jorn_, what, 32bit packages, they do
[16:51] <jorn_> somsip : I've tried.. not a very active channel :p
[16:52] <somsip_> jorn_: it's the right place to get support for 14.04. Here is just for released versions
[16:52] <iptable> jorn_, e.g. aptitude search firefox returns firefox:i386 and firefox. that's on 14.04 I am on.
[16:52] <iptable> jorn_, just install the lib:i386 that you need to fulfil the packages
[16:54] <jorn_> iptable : will try. thanks and sorry for asking questions in the wrong channel :)
[16:55] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. 127.0.0.0/8 actually terminates on loopback (lo) interface unless otherwise stated ;)
[16:55] <sbol> what is the proper etiquette for asking a question here?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: exactly
[16:55] <leeyaa> iptable: so ubuntu server comes without nm and resolvconf packages by default? even new versions ?
[16:55] <sbol> No one answered the first time and I don't want to repeat-spam
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: so you can make localhost any IP you like in that subnet :)
[16:56] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. I was just refering to user stating they got nameserver 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf and then saying they don't have localhost... which didn't make sense.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> sbol: if you edit the mime type in /usr/share/application you may be able to get rid but you may find it affects other apps
[16:56] <iptable> leeyaa, yes. server != desktop
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> iptable: ahhh makes sense now :)
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: you will get the network manager service, just no GUI clicky app
[16:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, on what? ubuntu 14.04 server and 12.04 server don't come with network-manager preinstalled
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: there is wicd which will give a nice ncurses UI with wicd-curses, you can then remove network manager
[16:58] <sbol> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[16:58] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: i dont want any gui or extra packages
[16:58] <leeyaa> i dont need them
[16:58] <leeyaa> besides they just complicate tasks that people are used to
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: then install wicd curses and start wicd, you can then use wicd-curses
[16:59] <leeyaa> i just said i dont need extra packages ;p
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: http://atastypixel.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Screen-Shot-2011-09-24-at-14.37.111.png
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: then use /etc/network/interfaces
[16:59] <leeyaa> exactly what i plan to do
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: if you add lines to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   you can specify DNS servers
[17:00] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: i know.
[17:01] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:01] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: wait, so server does come with network manager installed (the console version)
[17:01] <LMGN> lol
[17:01] <LMGN> That wasn'tygj
[17:01] <leeyaa> or i am wrong
[17:01] <LMGN> That wasn'
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: i'd check the packages at package.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <LMGN> That wasn' t me it was my frend
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> got a server down :(
[17:02] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:02] <iptable> leeyaa, no, when you install ubuntu-server, it comes without network-manager nor any tools. you configure it using /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[17:02] <iptable> leeyaa, you *can* install network manager if you are inclined that way
[17:02] <LMGN> I will try VirtualBox
[17:03] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:03] <iptable> LMGN, yes, VirtualBox would be the choice. Alternatively, if host is ubuntu, isntall qemu-kvm and VirtManager (that's the GUI), for the more native linux virtualization.
[17:04] <LMGN> Ok im just creating it in VirtualBox now :D
[17:05] <leeyaa> iptable: thats what i wanted to know if you get it by default or you HAVE to install it if you want it
[17:05] <leeyaa> thanks
[17:06] <LMGN> It says This needs a kernel Thing let me try the VirtualBox settings ;)
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> LMGN  try the 32 bit version
[17:07] <LMGN> Ok
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> LMGN  i mean: the 32 bit iso
[17:08] <LMGN> Yes thats what i am doing, Good job i have fiber internet!
[17:08] <nikLongStone> I am using scalper to recover some files, it's possible to specify the directory (not searching entire /dev/sda1) ?
[17:09] <OerHeks> !info scalper
[17:09] <OerHeks> nikLongStone, where do you get salper?
[17:09] <OerHeks> or scalper
[17:10] <bazhang> scalpel
[17:10] <nikLongStone> OerHeks is scalper
[17:10] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:10] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:10] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:10] <LMGN> Component:
[17:10] <LMGN> Medium
[17:10] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:10] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:10] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:10] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:10] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:10] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:10] <OerHeks> nikLongStone, no it is scalpel
[17:10] <OerHeks> !info scalpel
[17:10] <nikLongStone> scalpel sorry
[17:11] <nikLongStone> I read the guide but nothing about that
[17:11] <trijntje> nikLongStone:  deleted files are no longer in folders, so you have to search the entire partition
[17:11] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:11] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:11] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:11] <LMGN> Component:
[17:11] <LMGN> Medium
[17:11] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:11] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:11] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:11] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:11] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:11] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:11] <nikLongStone> trijntje ok, I understand
[17:11] <nikLongStone> thanks ù
[17:12] <bipul> Can we create a network on VIRTUALBOOX (Network Given Option) WHERE Machine A with start a TCP connection with Machine B via machine C.
[17:12] <nikLongStone> trijntje I thought that Ubuntu is like other systems, sometimes the files are simply flagged as removed so are in same position
[17:12] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:12] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:12] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:12] <LMGN> Component:
[17:12] <LMGN> Medium
[17:12] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:12] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:12] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:12] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:12] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:12] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:12] <OerHeks> LMGN, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <LMGN> Oh ok.
[17:13] <trijntje> nikLongStone: that is the case. However, folders don't correspond to locations on the harddisk. So not all files in a folder are together on the disk
[17:14] <dmarr> it looks like im going to have to reinstlal
[17:14] <Steve^> After some recent automatic updates in 12.04.4, my volume up and down media keys no longer affect the computer volume. If I rebind them to play/pause in the keyboard settings, they work fine. But they won't change the volume - any ideas?
[17:14] <dmarr> so if i have configs for things like znc how do i carry those over?
[17:14] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068742/
[17:14] <Steve^> * to be clear, they work fine in play/pausing the music, not in changing volume
[17:15] <bipul> Can we create a network on VIRTUALBOOX (Network Given Option) WHERE Machine A with start a TCP connection with Machine B via machine C.
[17:15] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068742/
[17:16] <Rory> dmarr: Most user-specific config files are hidden in your home directory. (hidden files begin with a .) press ctrl-h in file manager to show them
[17:16] <Rory> dmarr: back up the ~/.znc directory
[17:17] <LMGN> I have fixed that by going in to the IDE settings!
[17:18] <n0x_42> I have a shared folder but when a user creates a file that file is set to read-only for the group. How can I get created files to have read/write for the group?
[17:21] <LMGN> I am done with this IRC Goodbye!
[17:21] <iptable> n0x_42, like, any use who creates file should be created with RW for user and group and no matter how they create the file?
[17:22] <n0x_42> Yeah that's correct iptable
[17:22] <iptable> n0x_42, http://www.linuxnix.com/2011/12/umask-define-linuxunix.html
[17:23] <iptable> n0x_42, if it's about permissions for users accessing a share and putting files on a share, it would be umask on SMB/CIFS share you are looking for
[17:24] <bluefrog> setgid http://terokarvinen.com/2011/shared-folder-with-chmod-setgid
[17:26] <kriel> is it better practice to paste a multiline script in /etc/rc.local or to have it run a seperate .sh ?
[17:26] <Walex2> kriel: it depends a lot on your style of writing scripts.
[17:27] <kriel> Walex2: my script style sucks. =/ i'd actually like to learn the 'right' way (if there is one). i also need to learn how version control works .quiet laugh.
[17:27] <Walex2> kriel: one of my 'rc.local' scripts is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068799/
[17:28] <kriel> Walex2: mind a PM?
[17:29] <bogey> there is some bug in screen lock
[17:29] <bogey> in 14.04
[17:29] <bogey> keyboard does not focus and the password goes to last underlaying window
[17:30] <bogey> so happily it was irssi for me
[17:30] <bogey> so wrote my password on the chan
[17:30] <n0x_42> Thanks iptable. I used setfacl -d -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::r-x shared/directory
[17:30] <n0x_42> Is that not the ideal way to accomplish what I need?
[17:31] <A1Recon> I disabled the UEFI before installing Win 7 64bit on my Laptop. Now when I want to install Ubuntu 13.10 with UEFi disabled, the BIOS does not detect USB device. Why is this happening?
[17:32] <bogey> usbstick?
[17:33] <bogey> for me only couple usbs are working for booting
[17:33] <CaptainTacoSauce> A1Recon: what's the hardware system you're running? HP Laptop by chance?
[17:34] <iptable> n0x_42, well, does it work?
[17:34] <n0x_42> No
[17:34] <iptable> n0x_42, then it's not ideal
[17:35] <n0x_42> Apparently not.
[17:35] <bluefrog> acl works perfectly but you must configure it correctly
[17:35] <A1Recon> CaptainTacoSauce: ASUS KV55M-SX086D with American Megatrends Aptio BIOS
[17:35] <raj__> After installing tomcat7.. I tried to switch to tomcat user on ubuntu like this: " $ sudo su tomcat7" but  it does actually switch me, any idea why ?
[17:35] <n0x_42> Thanks bluefrog. I thought acl might be the best option but I wasn't sure if I was using it correctly.
[17:36] <n0x_42> I'll keep looking into it.
[17:36] <bluefrog> n0x_42, have you enabled acl for your system?
[17:36] <n0x_42> Yeah, I have.
[17:36] <raj__> some folders have permissions for tomcat7 user but I cannot switch..
[17:36] <CaptainTacoSauce> A1Recon: Ah okay, not sure then. Have you tried turning UEFI on to see if it recognizes the USB drive? The iso you copied on there likely has a UEFI boot partition. Also does the USB stick boot other hardware?
[17:37] <n0x_42> I added it to /etc/fstab
[17:37] <n0x_42> Is that correct?
[17:37] <bluefrog> n0x_42, yes then you must remount the partition
[17:37] <bluefrog> to activate it
[17:37] <n0x_42> Yeah, I did that too.
[17:38] <bluefrog> setfacl -m d:g:users:w /path/to/folder
[17:40] <bluefrog> all new files in the folder would be "write" for the group "users"
[17:41] <A1Recon> CaptainTacoSauce: Yeah that's the thing... When I turn UEFI on it recognizes the USB otherwise it does not. And yes the USB has a folder called EFI in it. Is there a way to use the legacy booting for Ubuntu?
[17:43] <bluefrog> n0x_42, you will have to include all your users in such a group of course as by default they are only members of their own group (and some others but not "users")
[17:44] <n0x_42> I actually think that worked perfectly bluefrog, thanks!
[17:46] <mikemonk> hello guys
[17:48] <motaka2> where can I find resolv.conf in my ubuntu 12.04?
[17:48] <gamerboy> hey
[17:48] <OerHeks> 'locate resolv.conf' says /etc/
[17:52] <mikemonk> so... ok here is my problem... I installed vmware workstation, however when trying to run it I cant... I get the following message: Unable to start services. See log file /tmp/vmware-root/vmware-modconfig-5534.log for details.
[17:52] <mikemonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068936/
[17:52] <mikemonk> theres the log
[17:54] <n0x_42> actually something is jacked up. If I create a file while connected to the shared drive and then check that file's permission on ubuntu it shows the group has read and write permissions. If another user connected to the shared directory tries to edit that file it won't save and says the file is read only.
[17:54] <basketball> where is actionparsnip
[17:54] <n0x_42> If I check the permission on the client computer it also shows the group has read/write permissions.
[17:55] <mikemonk> anybody?
[17:56] <skinux> How often should Ubuntu be downloading/installing updates? Daily?
[17:57] <mikemonk> sorry, this is the complete log file...
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> skinux: as often as there is an update for whatever packages you have installed
[17:57] <mikemonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068978/
[17:57] <usr13> skinux: Pretty much.... (there is no set schedule, they come when they come, but it happens pretty often).
[17:57] <mikemonk> it has to do with the kernel, and not being able to build something
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Mike9863: #ubuntu+1 for trusty support
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> mikemonk: ^ even
[18:03] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: have you installed the kernel headers?
[18:04] <mikemonk> dryicebomb: let me verify
[18:05] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: it looks like its failing on the make command, you may have to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[18:07] <basketball> how do i set up numlockx
[18:07] <salt_> hi, im having trouble installing a new version of node on my machine.  if i do 'which node' i get 'usr/local/bin/node' and i have a new version installed at 'usr/lib/nodejs'
[18:07] <salt_> whats the command to resolve this
[18:07] <basketball> whoops sorry meant to type in #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <salt_> export PATH=${PATH%$OLD_NODE_PATH/bin*}$NEW_NODE_PATH/bin${PATH#$*OLD_NODE_PATH/bin} i found this, but im not sure how it should look in my case
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: you can softlink /usr/local/bin/node to /usr/lib/nodejs
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: or vice versa i should say
[18:09] <salt_> sweet thank you very much!
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: you may also want to ensure npm is pointing to the correct version too
[18:11] <salt_> hmmm which node still comes back with the same location
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: yes. if you soft link it. its still the link that will get returned, but that link will be pointing to the new version
[18:13] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys everytime I turn on my laptop I get a blackscreen i have to restart my laptop 3 or 4 times in order to boot into my GUI properly...what Can i do to fix this, I am assuming it is a graphic problem
[18:13] <SmashStack> ran anyone tell me what the best method for setting the TTY font on startup is? This is on 12.04
[18:13] <SmashStack> can*
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you got logs from those boots (Xorg.0.log + dmesg world be good)
[18:14] <z3r0c007> hello
[18:15] <z3r0c007> help pls
[18:15] <souusek> hello
[18:15] <daftykins> ask a question
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> !details | z3r0c007
[18:15]  * daftykins waves to hitsujiTMO o/
[18:15] <salt_> ahh i think i messed it all up, i realized i was trying to like a file to a folder, then i tried again and i got'ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/local/bin/node': File exists'
[18:15] <z3r0c007> ii have a problem in ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <souusek> list
[18:15]  * hitsujiTMO waves back at daftykins o/   yo
[18:15] <daftykins> z3r0c007: can you type it on one line please
[18:15] <souusek> LIST
[18:15] <z3r0c007> ok
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> !list > souusek
[18:16] <z3r0c007> i updated my ubuntu 12.04 but my other application is not working
[18:16] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: taking a look there now
[18:17] <Jordan_U> z3r0c007: You're going to need to give a *lot* more detail than that.
[18:18] <z3r0c007> ok
[18:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: this keeps happening to me though constantly, I am wondering if there is a fix? Would the logs specifically tell me what is going wrong? I think it is a lazy graphic driver, I belive you helped me in the past.
[18:18] <Psil0Cybin> but this continues to persist, no matter what I upgrade or do
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what gpu + cpu do you have?
[18:19] <z3r0c007> wait i going to debug my ubuntu first
[18:19] <n0x_42> bluefrog do you know why files in the shared directory won't save when the group has read/write permission?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the logs when it fails might point to what exactly is failing. Somethings with what you describe it could be even that something is loading "too fast"
[18:21] <jeffrey_f> I have an html file (aka, text file) in which there are links to mp3's.  I want to find certain mp3's denoted with specific text in the link and download them.  Ideas?
[18:23] <miraiE> everyone, where can I ask about bash script?
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> jeffrey_f: thats not an ubuntu support question. you need to write a web crawler for that. prob #python could help
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> miraiE: #bash
[18:23] <domenico> ciao a tutti
[18:23] <miraiE> thanks hitsujiTMO
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: thank you so much I will look into it shortly,
[18:24] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: I downloaded the html already with curl.  just looking for script to find the text, which is enclosed in "
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> jeffrey_f: yes, you need to parse the html with a web crawler. you could use bash to grep for urls and wget them, or for more control i'd use python
[18:26] <miraiE> jeffrey_f have you tried hxextract from html-xml-utils?
[18:26] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.  Will look into that
[18:29] <Hecter> hi, im trying to send mail using smtp.google.com, does it need any installation/confgurations?
[18:30] <mikemonk> dryicebomb: already have those packages installed
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: what exactly are you try to send mail from?
[18:32] <Hecter> hitsujiTMO: im using zendframework2 (Zend\Mail\Protocol)
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: zend has a mail smtp transport for such: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5700470/sending-email-via-smtp-on-zend-framework
[18:35] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, going the right direction now
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | jeffrey_f
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: I'd also recommend checking out mailgun as an alternative. rather handy if you end up hitting the 500 mail cap with gmail
[18:37] <Hecter> noted
[18:37] <Hecter> 5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at ..... this is what i get as error response, so weird because im using git to upload this to an ubuntu server
[18:37] <Hecter> and locally its working :/
[18:38] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: was vmware already installed, and you upgraded your kernel, or you are trying to install it for the first time now?
[18:38] <mikemonk> first time
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: the IP could be an issue if its blacklisted
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> what kernel does latest 12.04 LTS use?
[18:40] <Hecter> hitsujiTMO: ok ill ask digitalocean, its a new created droplet, i do not know how to check if its blacklisted by google
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> 12.04.4
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> Ari-Yang: 3.11
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> ah, nice
[18:41] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: It looks like you are on Ubuntu 14.04, I'm suspecting Vmware Player isn't quite ready for that kernel, https://communities.vmware.com/message/2335957
[18:41] <superbob__> I'm trying to get a command to run on startup, and I'm putting it into rc.local, but it doesn't seem to be running on startup.  If I execute rc.local, though, I see that the command does in fact work.  Am I doing something wrong?
[18:42] <dryicebomb> superbob__:  you could use crontab to run your command. type "crontab -e" as the user you want the script to run as, then at the bottom type @reboot /path/to/script.sh
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> superbob__: rc.local runs with -e meaning it will exit on non 0 return. maybe something else in rc.local is returning non 0 before that command?
[18:44] <SmashStack> superbob__: I actually have a similar issue. However, the commands I have in rc.local run just fine, but their changes get reset
[18:44] <Midion_> Ok so decided to go with ubuntu for my vps over windows. I have logged in via ssh using securecrt. I run sudo apt-get install xrdp.
[18:45] <Midion_> I get unable to locate package xrdp.....
[18:45] <SmashStack> superbob__: add ">> /var/log/rc.local.log 2>&1" to the end of the command (maybe run the command with verbosity turned on) and then reboot. then check the log file for the command's output
[18:46] <dryicebomb> Midion_: try doing sudo apt-get update first
[18:46] <superbob___> dryicebomb: what if I want it to run as root?
[18:46] <Midion_> oh ty thats doing something.
[18:46] <usr13> !info xrdp | Midion_
[18:46] <dryicebomb> superbob___: then type sudo crontab -e that will edit roots crontab
[18:46] <genii> Midion_: May need "universe" repository enabled
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> Midion_: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list if running "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help
[18:47] <usr13> !uverse | Midion_
[18:47] <usr13> !universe | Midion_
[18:48] <bluefrog> n0x_42, i don't understand your problem about files
[18:48] <superbob___> dryicebomb: doesn't seem to execute the command :(
[18:49] <superbob___> I can execute the script just fine, it's just not doing it on startup
[18:49] <Midion_> running sudo apt-get update did it. xrdp is installing now. ty
[18:51] <dryicebomb> superbob___: is it a single command that you are running, or script that you have written? did you chmod +x the script to make it executable, and include the #!/bin/bash at the top of the script (assuming its written in BASH)
[18:51] <dryicebomb> Midion_: glad to hear it
[18:52] <geirha> superbob___: Is it a graphical application you're trying to run?
[18:53] <usr13> superbob___: Should your script be run as user, or root?
[18:54] <superbob___> it should be run as root
[18:54] <superbob___> it's a java command to run a .jar
[18:54] <usr13> superbob___: sudo crontab -e  #And edit is dryicebomb said.
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> superbob___: have you given the full path to the java bin?
[18:55] <usr13> superbob___: @reboot /pat/to/script
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> superbob___: rc.local will be run without a $PATH so you would have to specify the full path to the jave bin
[18:56] <superbob___> k... I'll try that
[18:56] <usr13> superbob___: You can do it by placing the script in /etc/rc.local as well, but make sure the executible script is enabled on /etc/rc.local as well as the script you want to run.
[18:56] <_amin_> hello, on my laptop keyboard I have no keys between "shift" and "W" (my keyboard is azerty), how to write ">" or "<" please ?
[18:57] <superbob___> gotcha
[18:59] <SmashStack> while we're on the topic of rc.local, maybe I can get some info on my issue. In the rc.local of my headless install (12.04), I have a setfont command and a setterm command (to set the font and color). I can confirm that they are getting executed (output logged to a file), but they appear to have no effect. Anybody know what's going on?
[19:00] <howudodat> am having a very unusual problem.  installed ubuntu server, two nics: em1 wired ethernet, default route.  wlan0 wireless.  em1 is responding with its MAC for arp requests for wlan0.  I have no bridge configed, nor proxy arp as far as I can tell.  em1=192.168.1.4/24 and wlan0=192.168.1.3/24
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> SmashStack: you're cannling them before the xserver is up
[19:02] <usr13> howudodat: How did your ethernet NIC come to be named em1 ?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> calling*
[19:02] <usr13> howudodat: Was it originally eth0?
[19:02] <SmashStack> hitsujiTMO: xserver isn't being started
[19:03] <SmashStack> it boots to TTY
[19:03] <howudodat> it was always em1 - I found this odd too, was epecting it to be eth0
[19:04] <howudodat> usr13: I can post my interface config if that would help
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> SmashStack: ahh sorry, misread what you were asking. immediately say font and color and thought xserver. You're calling them in a non interactive user which will not effect your user. try adding them to ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc instead
[19:04] <usr13> howudodat: Yes, do that;  pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:05] <usr13> howudodat: ifconfig |pastebinit  #Show us that one too.
[19:05] <jazzme> hello, urgent help!!! When I play an mp3 from a URL the song stops playing about 10 seconds into the song.  I can see that the progress is slower then the playing.  When I try to wget the mp3 file the download stops around 38%....This happens consistently on this PC...no problems with that URL on other PCs.
[19:06] <usr13> jazzme: Is this from one particular site?  Or...?
[19:06] <jazzme> any site
[19:06] <llutz> howudodat: that thing is called "consistent network device names", emX are on-board-devices, pXX PCI etc. i just didn't know that ubuntu-server uses this
[19:07] <jazzme> I just now started playing mp3 from a URL, so I have not noticed any other problems like with youtube..etc..
[19:07] <SmashStack> hitsujiTMO: ah, thank you. I looked around for quite a while but I couldn't figure out why it wasn't having any effect. I'll just throw them in my .zprofile
[19:07] <guillermo_> k
[19:07] <guillermo_> ddffg
[19:08] <usr13> howudodat: pastebinit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:08] <guillermo_> hg
[19:08] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Do you have this issue with this file : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Josh_Woodward_-_Swansong.ogg ?
[19:08] <howudodat> usr13: here is most everything http://pastebin.com/bEiwGGrE  (ps.  I haven't decided on a good servername yet, so it's just called server :) )
[19:09] <MaxDamage> Hi guys. Goal is to chroot a user with no shell, and make sure software ran by that user only has access to the user's home directory and nothing else. What I've done so far chmod the directory to 0755, put him in the sftp group (with the whole "ChrootDirectory %h" shabang) When I run the shell, though, it can go all around the filesystem.
[19:09] <MaxDamage> Is this normal, as it's running /bin/bash, and not some local shell?
[19:10] <jazzme> Jordan_U:That one is fine.  Plays fine and wget's fine.
[19:10] <FifoFolta> Hi
[19:10] <howudodat> usr13: persistent rules only had one line: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:21:2f:3b:36:c8", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[19:10] <FifoFolta> Hello!
[19:10] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Can you post a legal example URL that doesn't work?
[19:10] <jazzme> I'm trying to avoid downloading them on PC A to just copy them over to PC B
[19:10] <usr13> howudodat: lspci | pastebinit
[19:11] <FifoFolta> :)
[19:11] <howudodat> usr13: http://pastebin.com/MpVeRDfC
[19:11] <FifoFolta> Anyone?
[19:12] <jazzme> Jordan_U:http://darelfen.com/compilations/100%20pour%20100%20Deep%20Session/CD1/20131222080031-03%20-%20Alexandre%20Renoir%20-%20Insomnia%20%28Luxury%20Mix%29.mp3
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> FifoFolta: this us the ubuntu support channel. do you have an ubuntu suppot issue?
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> is* support*
[19:13] <FifoFolta> hitsujiTMO: Nope, sorry. Just using Pidgin to test an IRC connection.
[19:14] <usr13> howudodat: I don't suppose it matters much what the name is, (I suppose we could change it, but...).
[19:14] <wickz> jack@jack-VirtualBox:~$ ps waxf | grep greet
[19:14] <wickz>  3283 pts/0    S+     0:00                  \_ grep --color=auto greet
[19:14] <wickz>  1939 ?        Sl     0:01 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:14] <wickz>  2775 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:14] <usr13> howudodat: What was your original question?  What are you wanting to do with your network interfaces?
[19:15] <tsak_> where i should start to search this power managment problem. that every 10min if i don't touch the laptop it goes to sleep. i can't see bios because screen is smashed (im using external). apm=off and acpi=off won't work. i took from startup also power managment off so...hmmm
[19:16] <genii> tsak_: Might want: xset -dpms
[19:16] <howudodat> usr13: em1 answers arp requests for wlan0 (look at first pastebin, arp table at end)
[19:17] <tsak_> genii, hmm. ok i go to read what that does xD
[19:17] <genii> tsak_: Turns off the power saving on monitor so it always stays on
[19:18] <usr13> howudodat: I find it rather ineteresting that you only have one line in persistent rules file.  You only have Name="wlan0"
[19:18] <usr13> howudodat: Can you ping it's IP address?  ping 192.168.1.4
[19:19] <genii> usr13: Yes, no ethX devices there....
[19:20] <usr13> howudodat: (Check the ping times, should be somewhat less than 1ms)
[19:20] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Wget from my machine downloads the full 7.4 MiB file. Could you please pastebin the output of "wget 'http://darelfen.com/compilations/100%20pour%20100%20Deep%20Session/CD1/20131222080031-03%20-%20Alexandre%20Renoir%20-%20Insomnia%20%28Luxury%20Mix%29.mp3'  " from the proplematic machine?
[19:20] <Midion_> So im installin lamp using the command sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin. I set my root password but now its asking about configuring database with dbconfig-common.
[19:20] <usr13> genii: Are you alos howudodat?
[19:21] <howudodat> I can ping both, 1.3 and 1.4, ping times < 1ms, however pre first ping on wireless takes 5-10seconds, first ping still responds in < 1ms.  pre-ping would be arp resolution
[19:21] <howudodat> usr13: no I am just me :)
[19:21] <Midion_> I need a better tutorial. the one im reading is not including all of the steps.
[19:22] <akurilin2> Hey folks, is there a difference between /var/spool/cron/crontabs and creating tabs under /etc/cron.d ?
[19:22] <akurilin2> Is either approach preferable?
[19:22] <usr13> howudodat: What verison of ubuntu-server do you have installed? cat /etc/issue
[19:22] <howudodat> user13: 13.10
[19:23] <bluedice> how long I have support for this distribution
[19:23] <usr13> howudodat: Oh... 13.10.  Ok.  Is it fully updated?
[19:23] <usr13> howudodat: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:23] <howudodat> should be, did a upgrade and dist-upgrade after install
[19:23] <howudodat> user13: last night
[19:23] <tsak_> genii, i have viewsonic LCD TV (my external). there isn't that kind of power managment setting :/
[19:23] <jazzme> Jordan_U: there is no output, it just hangs.
[19:24] <tsak_> genii, this is Oooold tv xD
[19:24] <usr13> howudodat: Have you tested the device to see if it works? Do you have it connected to anything?
[19:24] <Jordan_U> jazzme: No output at all? Did your prompt change?
[19:25] <jazzme> Jordan_U:I will pastebin what I get.
[19:25] <howudodat> user13: yes, it works just fine.  I can communicate wired or wireless.  it's just that wireless is always a bit slow to get started - kind of like my old ford mustang, takes a few more cranks to get started, but outruns my wifes car every time :) outruns
[19:26] <jazzme> Jordan_U:http://pastebin.com/pNgbph1D
[19:27] <jazzme> Jordan_U:it hanged on 3% so I just ctrl-c
[19:27] <usr13> howudodat: Well,"if it aint broke, don't fix it"
[19:28] <staticwarp> hi there, i'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 on a new laptop. I've followed this guide: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[19:28] <howudodat> usr13: unfortunately I would consider the ethernet port answering arp request with its mac address in response to a request for the wireless broken :)
[19:28] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Please run "ping 144.76.34.197" for a minute or two and see if you get any failures.
[19:29] <staticwarp> but i'm stuck at the step where you boot from the usb drive. i'm actually trying to boot from a dvd with the ubuntu iso but cant boot from the dvd.
[19:29] <staticwarp> i've disabled secure boot and turned off fast boot, and made sure the dvd drive is set to 1st in the boot order.
[19:30] <Beldar> staticwarp, There is a uefi wiki and this thread, use info that is from ubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:30] <staticwarp> when i boot it always goes into windows 8.
[19:30] <Beldar> !uefi | staticwarp
[19:30] <staticwarp> thanks guys, i will check out both threads.
[19:32] <jazzme> Jordan_U:no errors
[19:35] <usr13> howudodat: ifconfig em1 hw ether  e0:69:95:91:62:50 #You can put it in /etc/rc.local
[19:35] <bekks> Or use macchanger
[19:35] <streulma> unable to enumerate usb device, device not accepting address, what can I do, it's the Android phone in Download mode.
[19:36] <usr13> That is a pretty messy thing to do but....
[19:36] <howudodat> usr13: but isn't that its mac address already?  what effect would that have?
[19:37] <usr13> howudodat: I don't know, try it and see
[19:37] <usr13> howudodat: Issue the above command and see if it then asnwers to it's own mac address>
[19:37] <Duy_> Quick question: will Ubuntu keep Python 2.6.5 updated/supported/maintained for 10.04 LTS?
[19:38] <Beldar> staticwarp, Note the instructions on the ubuntu thread on making a unallocated space in windows, imaging the windows and making a recovery disk
[19:38] <usr13> Duy_: You mean 12.04?  or  14.04?
[19:38] <Duy_> no
[19:38] <Duy_> I meant 10.04 LTS
[19:38] <Jordan_U> jazzme: You can always try "wget -c" to continue the failed download.
[19:38] <Duy_> that runs until 2015
[19:38] <usr13> Duy_: Is it now?
[19:39] <Duy_> please elaborate
[19:39] <staticwarp> Beldar: thanks, i made sure to do that. i definitely need to be able to restore windows if something goes wrong. :)
[19:39] <usr13> Duy_: I'm asking you to elaborate. Are you wanting to stay on 2.6.5?  Is that it?
[19:39] <Jordan_U> jazzme: How long did you try waiting for the download to complete?
[19:39] <Beldar> staticwarp, Yeah, we want that to. ;)
[19:41] <usr13> howudodat: I really don't have an explanation for what is happening on your system, not real sure what is causing the anomalies.  I'm hoping someone else will chime in here...
[19:41] <usr13> howudodat: You might ask on #ubuntu-server
[19:42] <staticwarp> Beldar: the more i read about this the more i think i'll need to enable legacy boot (CSM). when i tried enabling it in uefi i got some scary message "this may cause your computer to be unable to boot the OS", so i held off on that for now. if i do that and for some reason can't boot the os, do you think i'll be able to recover from the usb windows image?
[19:42] <Midion_> Im following a tutorial to install lamp. It says to run vi /var/www/info.php. I this but now I cant do anything in my ssh client. it gives like 15 lines with ~ on each line and then ends with."/var/www/info.php" [New File]
[19:43] <howudodat> usr13: thanks, I'll try ubuntu-server
[19:43] <usr13> Midion_: Give us the URL (of the tutorial you are following).
[19:43] <bekks> Midion_: Then you ran your editor on the "/var/www/" directory, not a file.
[19:44] <Beldar> staticwarp, The author of that thread on the UF is focused on this area and is on the UF daily. A thread with your info would probably get a visit there if needed.
[19:44] <Midion_> http://www.unixmen.com/install-lamp-with-1-command-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat/
[19:44] <usr13> Midion_: [New File] means that you are about to create a new file, and that you are not editing an existing file.
[19:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I actually select English on this install screen? http://puu.sh/7qrT8.jpg Clicking enter on my keyboard or trying to use my mouse does not work.
[19:45] <GeekDude> Any reason midori often fails to download files?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> jazzme: wget by default only considers a tcp connection failed if A: The server explicitly disconects or B: 15 minutes have passed with no data being transfered. You can change this 15 minute timeout with --read-timeout=number_of_seconds .
[19:45] <staticwarp> Beldar: cool, i will post there with the details of the issue. :)
[19:45] <Midion_> I ran sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin instead of what that turorial said.
[19:46] <bekks> Midion_: So you're on 10.10?
[19:46] <Midion_> yes its suppose to create a new file so i can enter a few lines to test if php is installed.
[19:46] <Midion_> no
[19:47] <Midion_> I see thats it says its creating a new file. its just that now it wont let me do anything else.
[19:47] <Midion_> i press enter and nothing
[19:47] <trism> Midion_: type: a then type your code, then hit escape and type :wq
[19:48] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Thanks
[19:48] <bekks> Midion_: And which Ubuntu are you on, actually?
[19:48] <Midion_> 13.04
[19:48] <bekks> 13.04 is EOL since January.
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: does the enter key not work? or anything on the keyboard for that matter
[19:49] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It just went to a different screen where I could use all my keys
[19:49] <cuddylier> Weird
[19:49] <cuddylier> Do I have the option to set my SSDs to RAID 1 in the setup?
[19:49] <cuddylier> Or is that done after the install?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> jazzme: You're welcome. Did changing --read-timeout= solve the problem for you?
[19:49] <cuddylier> Software RAID 1 btw
[19:50] <Midion_> bekks: im just using what my vps is offering.
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes you can set raid 1 during the partitioning of the system
[19:50] <jazzme> Jordan_U: did you mean 15 mins or 15 seconds?
[19:50] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Excellent
[19:50] <Beldar> GeekDude, Make sure midori is the only browser having this problem, try another browser.
[19:51] <Jordan_U> jazzme: The default is 900 seconds, which is 15 minutes.
[19:51] <usr13> Midion_: Are you familiar  with the saying; "You've saddled a dead horse"?
[19:51] <bill3632> should i use the 64 bit or 32 bit version if i only have 2gb ram
[19:52] <usr13> bill3632: It's up to you.
[19:52] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Ok, although I don't expect to wait for so long....not sure why I don't have this problem on other PC's.
[19:52] <Midion_> i should be able to update even if my vps only came with 13.04 correct?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> jazzme: What program are you using to download on the other PCs?
[19:53] <geirha> Midion_: Depends on the vps
[19:53] <jazzme> same
[19:53] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Ubuntu...wget
[19:54] <GeekDude> Beldar: Midori is the only one that I've seen have this problem. Pages load fine, but downloads frequently just hang at 0%. The downloads work fine with wget and lynx
[19:54] <Midion_> so pressed a and put in the lines. i pressed escape and then typed wq but how do i know if it saved. nevermind i'll try to visit it in my browser.
[19:55] <trism> Midion_: it is :wq
[19:56] <trism> Midion_: and it should exit vim after you type it, then you could say: cat /var/www/info.php; to see the contents
[19:57] <trism> Midion_: you may want to use nano in the future instead of vim, or play with vimtutor a bit to learn the commands
[19:57] <cuddylier> What do I do at this stage of the installation? http://puu.sh/7qsZr.png
[19:57] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Is the problematic PC connected via wifi? If so, what chipset? (Some drivers, like Realtek's, have issues with cutting out periodically).
[19:58] <bekks> cuddylier: Either retry or configure your network manually.
[19:58] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Pc is connected via lan line
[19:58] <cuddylier> bekks: Okay, I'll try eth1
[19:59] <Midion_> trism: ty
[19:59] <jon1012> afpy
[19:59] <n0x_42> bluefrog If user1 creates a file on the shared drive than user2 can't edit that file. The permissions for the group both users are in are set to read/write. Shouldn't user2 be able to edit a file?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: are bot users in the same group and are the groups mirrored on each system(same gid)
[20:00] <howudodat> usr13: ubuntu-server is pretty quiet.  just thought I'd add, I unplugged em1 from the hub and rebooted, and wireless wont come up automatically.  maybe it's something in my wireless / wpa_supllicant config
[20:00] <cuddylier> Do I just make up an IP here? http://puu.sh/7qthd.png
[20:01] <bekks> cuddylier: You set a valid IP there.
[20:01] <n0x_42> Yes to the first part. Does there need to be a group on the client computers as well?
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: yes. that user on the client would be needed to be in the same group if you are relying on unix permissions
[20:02] <usr13> howudodat: Well, it's a bit rare to use a wifi device on a server in the first place, sort of un-charted territory.
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: i assume this is an nfs share if you're using groups right?
[20:03] <usr13> howudodat: But I wonder why unplugging em1 would have to do with the WiFi device
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: or is this a samba share?
[20:03] <tsak_> genii, now it's working!
[20:03] <n0x_42> Hmm ok so I can't just connect to the shared folder on the client computers. I have to replicate the user/group structure on each client machine?
[20:03] <n0x_42> It's samba
[20:03] <howudodat> usr13:agreed, howver sadly I only have 4 ports on my router (until my hub arrives). alternatively I could try and get wireless working on my desktop, but I'm pretty sure that's a lost cause as well - at least at N speeds
[20:04] <n0x_42> Would nfs be a better choice?
[20:04] <tsak_> genii, xset -dpms along didn't do the trick, but 'xset -dpms; xset s off' did! :)  thank you
[20:04] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: for samba the unix permissions shouldn't have an issue. would more likely be samba persission setup instead
[20:04] <howudodat> usr13: in fact I would preferr the server to be wired and my desktop to work on N
[20:05] <usr13> howudodat: Since both devices are connected to the same network, I'm curious as to what the purpose is, (in having two connections as opposed to just one).
[20:05] <n0x_42> Ok so I am allowing access from each user in the samba share. Is there something in the conf file I need to change?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: depends on what your network is like. if its all linux then nfs would be simpler to configure
[20:05] <howudodat> usr13: it was temporary...I dont have enough wired ports, so I was trying to get it to work wireless, but wireless wont come up unless the wired port is plugged in
[20:06] <usr13> n0x_42: Is this samba server an MS Windows machine?
[20:06] <n0x_42> The directory is set to writeable and browseable. No, the shared directory is on ubuntu. The clients are Windows 8 and OS X.
[20:06] <subz3r0> anyone of you using ubuntu gnome 14.04?
[20:06] <usr13> howudodat: So you have an encrypted WiFi connection?
[20:07] <usr13> howudodat: wpa or something like that?
[20:07] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:07] <howudodat> usr13: yes wpa2-psk
[20:07] <genii> tsak_: Glad it worked for you :)
[20:07] <usr13> howudodat: Well, trun off the security.
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> cuete: you're gonna have to give more details than that. xorg likes to break in spectacular ways
[20:08] <usr13> howudodat: turn off wpa  (set security to none)
[20:08] <genii> cuete: Well, I've broken it a few times but i wouldn't say that I'm an expert at it
[20:08] <howudodat> usr13: as a test?  or permanently?
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: I would suggest that the connection is being made by the wired device and not the wireless one.
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: Yes permanently
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: Turn it off on the router.
[20:10] <howudodat> usr13: ok, I'll make the server be wired...that's not a problem.  but in order to do that, I'd sure like my desktop to connect via N.  However last I tried, the BCM4360 wasn't working very well on N
[20:10] <howudodat> usr13: I cant leave my network open
[20:10] <usr13> howudodat: Oh. Ok.
[20:12] <usr13> howudodat: It's sometimes a bit difficult to establish a WiFi connection to an encrypted network without the use of network-manager.
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: I'm sure it *can* be done, but I couldn't tell you how. The easy thing to do is turn off encryption.
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: Or use a wireless bridge.
[20:13] <cuddylier> Is this a normal screen during the install process? http://puu.sh/7quiP.png
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: A wireless bridge would be best.
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: how long has it been like that?
[20:14] <tgm4883> cuddylier, on server maybe
[20:14] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Around 5 minutes.
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: prob just running something in the background. i've seen the screen stuck like that for a few mins on some odd hardware configs
[20:15] <evilbug> only running ssh server and irssi on my netbook (xubuntu 12.04) wiht lightdm disabled and top's telling me i have 67mb free ram out of 1gb. why is that?
[20:15] <cuddylier> Okay, I'll just wait longer.
[20:15] <usr13> howudodat: Or, you could use wicd-cli
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: are you looking at the +/- buffer cache line?
[20:16] <howudodat> usr13: I'll look into that.  for now it's wired
[20:16] <usr13> howudodat: you shoudl try wicd-cli
[20:17] <usr13> howudodat: ... for wireless
[20:17] <howudodat> usr13:ok, will look at that too
[20:17] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: http://is.gd/rMXEkW
[20:18] <Guest93828> What's this?
[20:18] <Guest93828> where are you from?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest93828  this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:19] <Guest93828> ?????????????/
[20:20] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: any advice?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: you're using 900M, BUT, most of that is used by buffers and cache. please read: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:21] <genii> Guest93828: This is the channel people that people ask for help with their Ubuntu operating system. If this is not what you want, you are probably in the wrong place.
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: the "used" ram is actually free to be used by apps if needed
[20:22] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: you're the man, thanks a lot.
[20:23] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: It's still on that screen hmmm
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hellp
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> somebody there?
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[20:23] <genii> PL4SSM4NN: Yes, we see what you type.
[20:24] <PL4SSM4NN> ok
[20:24] <PL4SSM4NN> Using Ubuntu?
[20:24] <usr13> !anyone
[20:24] <genii> PL4SSM4NN: If you have a more specific question you need help with regarding your Ubuntu, just ask the channel generally and then see if someone assists.
[20:24] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: also any suggestions on how to strip xubuntu down to ubuntu server?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hmm, at this point i'd prob open another tty (ctrl + alt + fX) and look at the logs
[20:25] <usr13> evilbug: uninstall xubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Do I hold shift to get the capital 'X'?
[20:26] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: i was thinking of removing all the xfce stuff via http://is.gd/NBnwb0 and then installing all the other server components.
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: hmm. apt-get remove xorg xserver-xorg               should trigger a removal of all the X related apps
[20:26] <Payton> Is there any piece of software that can stop my system from heating up? xD
[20:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: I can enter text in the white bar
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: i mean: f3 or f4 when i say fX   ... there's a number of ttys running on each
[20:26] <evilbug> usr13: sure but there would be other xfce things left behind if i just run an uninstall on it.
[20:27] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Okay got it, where would I find the logs?
[20:28] <usr13> evilbug: yes, there would be a number of cleanup tasks
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: /var/log on the target drive.
[20:28] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Then view the 'syslog'?
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: i think its /var/log/installer for install related logs
[20:29] <evilbug> usr13: and then http://is.gd/NBnwb0 comes in for full removal.
[20:29] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: There is only two files in the log folder, syslog and media-info
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: check the end of the syslog to start
[20:31] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qvNa.png
[20:32] <usr13> evilbug: Pretty long list.  Better to just re-install.
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: is this in /var/log or something like: /target/var/log ?
[20:32] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO /var/log/syslog
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: whats the output of: mount
[20:33] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qvNa.png
[20:33] <cuddylier> I mean http://puu.sh/7qw2r.png
[20:34] <evilbug> usr13: ok, that's what i was afraid of.
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: so it hasn't even gotten to the partitioning phase?
[20:34] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Nope
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: restart the install and hope it doesn't happen again
[20:35] <cuddylier> Okay :)
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: was the ip used valid for your network?
[20:35] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I made sure of that
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: after what screen dis you get that hang?
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> did*
[20:36] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: The hostname one
[20:36] <Aossi> sup yall
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hmm, ok, restart the install
[20:37] <born_to_code> hei folks!
[20:37] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: How do I get back to the main KVM window?
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: that i'm not sure. haven't used kvm in years. i use esxi/workstation
[20:38] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Got it, F1 got me back
[20:38] <cuddylier> Now I wonder how I go back in the install hmm....
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> ahhh, lol yeah. ctrl + alt + f1 brings you back to tty1
[20:39] <cuddylier> Got it
[20:42] <cybrNaut> should I remove this from the pre-seed file? => "d-i cdrom-detect/cdrom_device string /dev/sdb1"
[20:42] <cybrNaut> the USB stick may not necessarily always be /dev/sdb1
[20:42] <cybrNaut> so it seems wrong to have that in a preseed file
[20:43] <Duy_> Quick question: Python 2.6.5 is retired as of now. Would Ubuntu continue to support it in 10.04 LTS?
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Duy_: yes. ubuntu will continue to issue security patches for it
[20:44] <Duy_> that's great
[20:44] <Duy_> how could I verify that?
[20:45] <Duy_> Sorry it's important for our product and I need to answer to legal dept
[20:45] <vozz> I've got a 120hz monitor plugged into my laptop with a displayport cable, but I can only get it to work on 60hz. How do I get 120hz to work?
[20:46] <vozz> To clarify, xrandr is showing 60hz as the only mode on 1920x1080, and I can't figure out a way to change it to 120hz
[20:46] <Sebouh> Would anyone be willing to help me dual boot Ubuntu on my computer? :)
[20:47] <gordonjcp> !dualboot
[20:47] <Sebouh> I'm having issues with my Wireless adapter, and it seems like there are no supported drivers for Ubuntu.
[20:47] <Sebouh> I should of made it clear that I know the actual process of how to dual boot.
[20:48] <Sebouh> Anyone?
[20:49] <vozz> What's your wireless adapter?
[20:49] <Sebouh> My Wireless Adapter is: Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC.
[20:51] <someHuman> Hello!
[20:51] <basketball> Sebouh: http://www.pcpitstop.com/drivers/manufacturer/realtek.html
[20:51] <someHuman> How come Ubuntu 13.10 doesn't show up whenever am done after an installation?
[20:52] <yeats> !details | someHuman
[20:52] <k1l_> someHuman: install the grub into the MBR of the first disk. not the partition but the MBR
[20:52] <someHuman> I only have Windows 8.1 atm.
[20:52] <someHuman> I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8.1
[20:53] <Sebouh> I'm in the same position, someHuman, aha.
[20:53] <Beldar> !uefi | someHuman
[20:53] <someHuman> Sebouh: Lol.
[20:53] <someHuman> Crap!
[20:53] <Sebouh> basketball: The link on that webpage only provides me with a Windows 8 driver. Am I out of luck?
[20:54] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:54] <basketball> Sebouh:  give me a minute pleaase i am looking into it
[20:54] <someHuman> If the Ubuntu DVD works on VirtualBox, will it guarantee me a bootable distro?
[20:54] <Beldar> someHuman, Besides the uefi wiki, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:54] <someHuman> I already have 13.10 with me.
[20:54] <cuete> I've got an Acer Aspire One E1-510-4487 that xorg doesn't want to display anything on.
[20:55] <Sebouh> basketball: No problem. I appreciate the help.
[20:55] <someHuman> cuete: We're on the same boat.
[20:55] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad either. I can only find them by super + w
[20:55] <basketball> Sebouh: what version of ubutntu
[20:56] <Sebouh> someHuman: I think it would boot, but things like WiFi capability might not be guaranteed, like my problem right now.
[20:56] <Sebouh> basketball: The latest LTS.
[20:56] <basketball> Sebouh:  14.04 or 12.04
[20:56] <HEROnymous> 14.04 isn't released yet
[20:56] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qy3l.png At this stage I enter e.g. 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 right?
[20:56] <Sebouh> basketball: 12.04 LTS.
[20:57] <basketball> ok Sebouh
[20:57] <cuete> someHuman : UEFI boot with 13.10 and xorg breaking?
[20:57] <someHuman> cuete: Yes.
[20:58] <someHuman> I haven't experienced booting into 13.10, like EVER!
[20:58] <cuete> someHuman: How far have you gotten?
[20:58] <someHuman> I have only experienced 'till 13.04.
[20:58] <someHuman> :(
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yup
[20:59] <Sebouh> What would I do when a newer LTS is released?
[21:00] <someHuman> What's good about LTS?
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> Sebouh: you'll get a notification about an upgrade for the next LTS
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> someHuman: long term support
[21:00] <someHuman> Is it == to rolling release?
[21:00] <Beldar> Sebouh, You can upgrade lts to lts or up one release at a time.
[21:00] <ePax> I can not connect to my remote ubuntu with remove viewer... i have tryed to change default vino port... How can i set it to defaul port again?
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> non lts usually are supported for 9 months
[21:00] <k1l_> !lts | someHuman
[21:00] <cuete> someHuman: have you installed the system, just not able to see the desktop?
[21:01] <k1l_> someHuman: ubuntu doesnt have rolling release
[21:01] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad  either. I can only find them by super + w
[21:01] <someHuman> cuete: Yes.
[21:01] <K`zan> Hi Folks, trying to help a handicapped friend, how can I get X to read the (modified) mousekeys file?  X ignores it and no errors whether it is installed or not (/usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys).  OR, if there is someway (xmodmap?) to implement them manually / script (i.e.:  interpret u { action = MovePtr(x=-10,y=-10); } ).  Thanks much!!!
[21:02] <cuete> Is there a way to see what video drivers and/or video cards are on the system?
[21:02] <someHuman> k1l_: What am trying to say is, is it like it?
[21:02] <basketball> Sebouh:  do you have a link to your adapter
[21:02] <k1l_> someHuman: no
[21:02] <someHuman> Ah ok
[21:02] <Beldar> cuete, lspci in the terminal lists some hardware
[21:02] <someHuman> cuete: Yep it does.
[21:03] <someHuman> I'll first try out 13.10 on VBox.
[21:03] <adamcunnington> cuete: lshw -c video and look for the line saying "configuration"
[21:03] <Sebouh> basketball: Err, it came with my computer so I really wouldn't know. :\
[21:03] <someHuman> Is that a legit way to see if a distro would boot after the installation?
[21:03] <basketball> Sebouh:  what pc
[21:03] <Sebouh> basketball: Let me find it, sec.
[21:04] <k1l_> someHuman: no
[21:04] <k1l_> someHuman: VM just simulates hardware. on your real hardware there could be other issues
[21:05] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad   either. I can only find them with super + w
[21:05] <cuddylier> hiysujiTMO: Got past the last stage :)
[21:06] <cuete> is there another graphics handler besides xorg?
[21:06] <Beldar> someHuman, If windows is important to you image/clone it before any install of ubuntu, per the link I sent you from the UF.
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | cuddylier
[21:06] <Sebouh> basketball: It's not listed on the website anymore, but it's more or less the same as this one, minus the RAM and processor: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/asus-asus-m51-desktop-pc-intel-core-i7-4770-2tb-hdd-12gb-ram-windows-8-1-m51ad-ca001s/10284325.aspx?path=84b0e7ee6ac11dc81fb7e10acff8d455en02
[21:07] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qz0t.png What now if I want RAID 1?
[21:07] <basketball> and the adapter is the Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC. correct
[21:08] <Sebouh> So frustrated, lol.
[21:08] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am trying sorry i dont know a lot about reltek drivers
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[21:09] <Sebouh> basketball: Don't worry, man. I appreciate the effort. :)
[21:09] <basketball> Sebouh:  ill keep looking
[21:09] <basketball> Sebouh:  can you check in additional drivers
[21:09] <cuete> is there another graphics handler besides xorg?
[21:11] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Only issue I see is the SWAP is 32gb out of my 120gb SSD, how do I reduce it? It doesn't mention it in the guide.
[21:11] <cuete> Is there a channel that deals specifically with xorg?
[21:12] <Sebouh> basketball: Listed under 'Network Adapters' are: Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network), Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM Protocol TDI), Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC, Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller.
[21:12] <Beldar> !nomodeset | cuete
[21:13] <basketball> Sebouh:  you have Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
[21:13] <basketball> select that
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: delete it and recreate it with the right size you want. then upsize the other partitions
[21:13] <Sebouh> basketball: Okay, now what?
[21:14] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Does this look right to you? http://puu.sh/7qzwy.png
[21:14] <cuete> Beldar: I've set it to nomodeset, still nothing.
[21:14] <basketball> what is on the screen Sebouh
[21:14] <Beldar> cuete, Just now?
[21:14] <Sebouh> basketball: Its properties menu on Windows 8.1
[21:15] <anonymous> hello
[21:15] <basketball> Sebouh:  are you on ubuntu or windows
[21:15] <Guest5081> ubuntu
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes, but i typicall drop down the reserves blocks to about 1-2%
[21:15] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm currently on Windows because the adapter wasn't working with Ubuntu.
[21:16] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: What is the reserve block purpose?
[21:16] <Guest5081>  well im running Anonymous-os
[21:16] <cuete> Beldar, I've been doing it for the past 12 hours or so within grub.
[21:16] <Sebouh> basketball: There are two driver files on here, but I'm not sure if they'd be of any use.
[21:16] <basketball> Sebouh:  i cant help you if you are using ubuntu please see #windows
[21:16] <cuete> When I try to run startx in terminal, it returns "No screens found" error.
[21:16] <basketball> if you are not
[21:16] <k1l_> Guest5081: congrats, your system is not only not supported in here its even unsecure at all
[21:17] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm not using Ubuntu?
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: when you reach that percentage of free disk space left, only root can write files. its used to keep a system running with low disk space (i.e, keep logs working for as long as possible)
[21:17] <Guest5081> people why r u in a ubuntu chat if ur on another operating system
[21:17] <Guest5081> i have  a question
[21:17] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Ah okay, so a smaller percentage means more disk space for the whole system
[21:17] <basketball> 14:15] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm currently on Windows
[21:18] <Sebouh> I was under the inference that there was a community ready to help with a transition, lol.
[21:18] <Beldar> cuete, Ah, Have you tried installing a lighter desktop like lubuntu to see if you get a desktop.
[21:18] <basketball> !ask  Guest5081
[21:18] <hggdh> ertax-pts901
[21:18] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Also is my 2nd drive meant to be bound to /home?
[21:18] <Sebouh> I'm asking about a network problem and I have no other way of communicating it than through Windows...
[21:18] <basketball> !ask |  Guest5081
[21:18] <cuddylier> As it can't bind to / since the first SSD is on /
[21:18] <cuete> Beldar, no. Though I did get desktop when I ran the installer on nomodeset.
[21:18] <hggdh> sorry, wrong window
[21:18] <cuete> Am I to assume that it works in theory at least?
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: -ish, yes.       cuddylier if you want that for home then mount it as /home   thats a normal strategy
[21:19] <DJones> Guest5081: You said you are using Anonymous OS, thats not a supported version of Ubuntu
[21:19] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad    either. I can only find them with super + w
[21:19] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yeah, although surely both will sync with each other since I'm gonna set them as RAID?
[21:19] <cuddylier> Or does it write to that SSD then the other SSD copies the stuff over to itself?
[21:19] <basketball> Sebouh:  do you have another device besides the computer that can connect to irc
[21:19] <Beldar> cuete, From that desktop through nomodeset you would update and upgrade and check the additional drivers tab in software sources to start with.
[21:19] <Guest5081> i have a version of #ubuntu on a disk and i want it on the computer that im on how do i delete the version of windows and keep this operating system
[21:20] <Sebouh> basketball: No.
[21:20] <basketball> not a smart phone or tablet
[21:20] <cuete> Beldar: I enabled downloading of third party software and everything else it needed for the system...
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: raid will sync the partitions. if you are using 2 drives, then create the same scructure on both then follow the link i gave you earlier to convert them to md partitions
[21:20] <Sebouh> basketball: Unfortunately not.
[21:21] <Beldar> cuete, 3rd party on the install process?
[21:21] <Guest5081> basketball: i have a version of #ubuntu on a disk and i want it on the computer that im on how do i delete the version of windows and keep this operating system
[21:21] <DJones> Guest5081: You've just said you're using Anonymous OS, thats not a version of Ubuntu
[21:21] <cuete> Beldar: Yeah, the button that checks for additional software sources.
[21:21] <cuete> checkbox
[21:21] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am sorry but i cant help you then
[21:21] <DJones> Guest5081: please pastebin the results of cat /etc/issue
[21:22] <Guest5081> im talking about a different computer
[21:22] <adamcunnington> Is everyone ignoring me? Asked the same question like 6 times with no response!
[21:22] <Sebouh> Alright.
[21:22] <basketball> Guest5081:  when you boot from the live disk there will be a section on partioning
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: the answer then is: you install it
[21:22] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Okay so both / like this? http://puu.sh/7qAcQ.png
[21:22] <basketball> Guest5081:  it will ask if you want to install along side or erase it
[21:22] <minimec> Sebouh: I was looking @your problem It looks like your wifi card will bee supported in 14.04. Ubuntu has patched the 3.13 kernel to support your device. General support will be in kernel 3.14. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1287298 and https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Realtek_RTL8821AE_Combo_Module
[21:23] <Beldar> cuete, Ah, so as I said on the desktop through nomodeset you need to run a update and upgrade, then check the additional drivers tab. Not all drivers gets installed automatically there may be options. This is just a a guess to your problem, but the least you would check.
[21:23] <Sebouh> minimec: Thanks for the update. When will 14.04 be released?
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: then configure it as a raid. i would create a small swap space too, even if its only 1gb
[21:24] <cuete> Beldar: I have access to the system right now, is there a way to manually download the drivers?
[21:24] <Beldar> cuete, No internet access?
[21:24] <Guest5081> cat /etc/issue
[21:24] <cuete> Beldar, I have internet access
[21:24] <Guest5081> ubuntu 11.10 \n \c
[21:24] <minimec> Sebouh: April 17th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[21:25] <minimec> Sebouh: Do you have a 64bit ubuntu installation?
[21:25] <Beldar> cuete, Why the manual download?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: 11.10 is End of Life an no longer supported
[21:25] <Guest5081> ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[21:25] <cuete> beldar: I'm not able to access the desktop/gui
[21:25] <Sebouh> minimec: Yes, I do. I guess I'll have to wait till April or dig around for another adapter.
[21:25] <Beldar> cuete, You can through nomodeset right?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: download the 12.04 iso. its supported until 2017
[21:26] <cuete> Beldar: Nomodeset just brings me to command line
[21:26] <Guest5081> Can i make the operating system on the live disk my main operating system with terminal
[21:26] <cuete> no nomodeset just shows a black screen
[21:26] <Beldar> cuete, What does this mean than "Beldar, no. Though I did get desktop when I ran the installer on nomodeset."?
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: 12.04 has an alternative installer that can run from cli
[21:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Do I need to the turn the bootable flag on for the SWAP partition? Yeah?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: bootable flag isn't actually used
[21:27] <Beldar> cuete, Ah I see on the installer not the install, my mistake.
[21:27] <cuete> Beldar: When I was installing the system, I couldn't access the desktop.
[21:27] <Guest5081> so i can partition this to make it my only operating system on my HDD
[21:27] <cuete> Beldar: yeah
[21:27] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Oh, I set the 1gb parition to 'logical' but it isn't going to SWAP hmm
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: yes. if you want to install from cli use the 12.04 alternative iso
[21:27] <cuete> Belder: When Installing the system, in grub, I hat to set nomodeset just to see the installer.
[21:28] <cuete> if that makes sense
[21:28] <Guest5081> hitsujiTMO what if i wann ado it with this 11.10
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Guest5081: We are not going to help you with anything other than Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or Ubuntu 13.10.
[21:28] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:28] <PL4SSM4NN> ?
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: you can have it as primary if you wish. you format it as "swap space", but that would be after creating the raid mds
[21:28] <minimec> Sebouh: Well you could be dirty and 'wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc6-trusty/linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb' and then 'sudo dpkg -i http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc6-trusty/linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb'. That would install the latest 3.14 kernel into you existing installation. this one would be the newest 3.1
[21:29] <Beldar> cuete, Since you have a terminal find the graphic hardware info with lspci, You can install pastebinit and have this go to a pastebin for the channel to read, in your inquiries.
[21:29] <Guest5081> WTF its all ubuntu just a older version
[21:29] <Beldar> !pastebinit | cuete
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: you can't. 11.10 is no longer supported so you can't get the alternative iso
[21:29] <DJones> !eol | Guest5081
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> !language | Guest5081
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <cuete> beldar: I'll get on it
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <minimec> Sebouh: 'sudo dpkg -i linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb' sorry...
[21:29] <jeffrey_f> working on a script.  I've got MOST of this working.  When invoking     for i in `cat /testcurl.txt` ; do curl -O $i ; done, which works, but it need the files to go into another sub folder called data.  Please advise
[21:30] <DJones> w 15
[21:30] <Guest5081> does anyone use ubuntu to hack
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: hacking is not supported here
[21:30] <hggdh> pspldb201
[21:30] <hggdh> darn! sorry
[21:31] <Pencil_> I installed ubuntu and the lan doesn't work.   Where can  some guidelines
[21:31] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: What do I set the mount point as for the SWAP parition?
[21:31] <Sebouh> minimec: Not sure I understand these commands, but I'll give them a try. What would it do? :s
[21:32] <jamesd> cuddylier: swap has no mount point, just set filesystem type to swap, and it will work
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: just set the fiesystem to swap space. it doesn't have a mount point
[21:32] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Just found it thanks
[21:33] <basketball> Sebouh:  im sorry but i cant help you unless you are in ubuntu os
[21:34] <Sebouh> I wasn't asking for your assistance, mate. :s
[21:34] <basketball> Sebouh: yes you were
[21:34] <minimec> Sebouh: the wget command would download the latest 3.14 kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ . The 'sudo dpkg -i' command would install that kernel. After a reboot, you would run that 'bleeding edge' kernel. If the boot hangs, you would have to load the old kernel in 'Advanced options for Ubuntu' @ the boot screen.
[21:36] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: When setting up the RAID 1 it's asking for two paritions but that leaves out the RAID parition, should I just ignore it?
[21:36] <Sebouh> minimec: How would I run the 'bleeding edge' kernel after reboot? It might be worth noting that I haven't actually installed Ubuntu since it recommended I be connected to WiFi when installing.
[21:36] <minimec> Sebouh: In that case, I would wait another month... ;)
[21:37] <david1> yo, I have a problem that I am finding impossible to look up. It isn't particularly with ubuntu, is there perhaps an IRC channel for WINE?
[21:37] <Sebouh> minimec: Another month it is. Thanks for the help. :D
[21:38] <basketball> Sebouh:  was minimec  able to help you
[21:38] <Sebouh> basketball: Yes.
[21:39] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am sorry i dont know alot about drivers
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes, a raid 1 would need a minimum of 2 partitions. so you should have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for / and if you're raiding the swap /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 for that aswell
[21:39] <Sebouh> basketball: It's okay, mate, you tried and I'm thankful for it. :)
[21:40] <Sebouh> Take care everyone!
[21:40] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yeah just got it, my installation didn't freeze at any point however, it's still fine?
[21:41] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It stopped me after I tried to continue saying the mountpoints where the same, /
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: the mount points should be fixed as they should be reffering to mds. is the partition menu showing you the raid devices?
[21:42] <david1> so... irc channel for wine?
[21:42] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Ah, it didn't actually create the RAID, it's asking me to delete two paritions here but how can I select two when the cursor goes between 1? http://puu.sh/7qBPz.jpg
[21:42] <cuddylier> I mean select two paritions rather than delete
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yeah select /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for your / raid
[21:43] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO How though? When I use my arrow keys it just goes between 1 option only
[21:44] <cuddylier> hitsujuTMO: Got it, I just didn't read the part about space being the selector
[21:44] <umib0zu> hey all. how can I remove packages from /boot when the partition is full? I've tried dpkg purge and dpkg autoremove and in both cases they error out
[21:44] <david1> .-.
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: cool
[21:45] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It said no root file system was detected... hmm
[21:46] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qC5p.png
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: you need to assign that raid device then as / and formatted to ext4
[21:47] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO When I select the RAID 1 partition all I see is: http://puu.sh/7qCaY.png
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: change use as: to use as: ext4 or / or whatever
[21:49] <Midion_> hmm just setup my server with vestacp.... so far I like it.
[21:50] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: On to the next stage now, thank you so much so far.
[21:50] <umib0zu> hey all. how can I remove packages from /boot when the partition is full? I've tried dpkg purge and dpkg autoremove and in both cases they error out
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[21:53] <minimec> umib0zu: It would be 'sudo apt-get autoremove' That might remove some old kernels.
[21:53] <umib0zu> its on a separate computer but the /boot partition is at 98%
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: should be much easier from here on in
[21:53] <umib0zu> and I've tried autoremove and it breaks as well
[21:53] <cuddylier> Yeah, I think I should be fine now and at least I now know exactly how to do another install
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: manually rm an old kernel to free up some space
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: just make sure its not one you will be using
[21:54] <umib0zu> I've gone into /boot and actually rm'ed a few of the files
[21:54] <Beldar> umib0zu, several methods, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: and are you still getting an issue after removing a few of them?
[21:54] <umib0zu> yeah
[21:54] <umib0zu> is there an updating command?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:57] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/4KP22ja0
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: that seems to suggest another drive is also out of space. can you pastebin the output of: df -h && df -i
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> s/drive/partition
[22:00] <Beldar> umib0zu_, Is this raring 13.04?
[22:01] <sudormrf> does anyone in here know if privoxy has an IRC channel?
[22:02] <IdleOne> sudormrf: you can try /msg alis *privoxy* list
[22:02] <OerHeks> !alis
[22:03] <sudormrf> IdleOne: thanks
[22:03] <umib0zu_> beldar, yeah its 13.04
[22:03] <umib0zu_> I'm trying to ugrade and it's failing
[22:03] <umib0zu_> http://pastebin.com/RfKWgtLq
[22:03] <cuete> Beldar: VGA Controller: Intel Corporation ValleyView Gen7
[22:04] <basketball> \/j #ubuntu-meting
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: ls -latr /boot && uname -r
[22:05] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[22:06] <Beldar> cuete, Graphics are not my strongest area is all, others here are better.
[22:06] <umib0zu_> http://pastebin.com/TFPZZRXk
[22:06] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/TFPZZRXk
[22:07] <cuete> Beldar: thanks for your help nonetheless!
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-25-generic /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-26-generic /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-27-generic
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: ^
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: that should free up enough space
[22:09] <dougl> where do I put my script that needs to be exec with root privleges?
[22:11] <apb1963> any bootp fanatics here?  And perhaps just maybe intimate with dhcpdump?  I'm seeing things I just don't understand.  Like... why is my system broadcasting bootp requests?   Why is it sending them to a private address?  How is it that I'm actually getting responses?  And why won't it stop?  Here's a capture file: http://fpaste.org/84127/44894331/
[22:11] <minimec> dougl: @boot? /etc/rc.local
[22:13] <tgm4883> What can I use to send gcode to a solidoodle 3 (3d printer)?
[22:13] <magicflakes> any thoughts why I can't install this package? I'm using the defaults ppas. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070331/
[22:14] <dbainbri> I am going to be traveling to Haiti in a few weeks and taking some old donated PCs on which I have installed ubuntu. I may have to re-install or do other such work while I am there. As my network access will be limited and/or slow, how can I get an ISO of the latest 13.10 artifacts without building it myself? Is there a nightly ISO image? I would like to avoid as many over the wire updates as possible.
[22:14] <tgm4883> magicflakes, what release of ubuntu?
[22:14] <magicflakes> 12.04 LTS
[22:14] <tgm4883> dbainbri, is there a local network? I'd mirror the repo there
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: try running sudo apt-get update first
[22:15] <dbainbri> tgm4883, not that i know of.
[22:15] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO ok I've actually removed a few of those. should I aim to just remove img files?
[22:15] <tgm4883> dbainbri, not sure then. There isn't a daily 13.10 iso you can get
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: just removing those few should free enough space for the install to finish
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: if that doesn't allow it to install then please pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy libxml2-dev
[22:16] <dbainbri> tgm4883, thx.
[22:17] <OerHeks> tgm4883, i have seen Redsnapper in action, http://reprap.org/wiki/Repsnapper http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/repsnapper.1.html
[22:18] <tgm4883> OerHeks, I'll try that
[22:18] <magicflakes> here's the apt-cache http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070358/
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: and also the output of: apt-cache policy libxml2
[22:19] <raj> is X on a server crazy?
[22:19] <bekks> raj: Yes.
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> raj: usually yes. there are a number a very small situations where it isn't
[22:19] <raj> hitsujiTMO, such as?
[22:19] <gordonjcp> raj: yes
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> raj: bitcoin mining with radeon cards for instance
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> raj: and some rendering servers
[22:20] <gordonjcp> raj: graphics processing sometimes pulls in X libs, for which the easiest thing to do is pull down an X server package
[22:20] <sudormrf> hey guys, so I setup privoxy and it is working well, but there is one drawback.  Youtube videos don't work.  Is there a way for me to whitelist a site with privoxy?  I looked in /etc/privoxy/ but didn't see something obvious.
[22:20] <raj> okie dokes, I won't do it
[22:21] <gordonjcp> raj: there's not really any need for it
[22:21] <magicflakes> sorry, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070381/
[22:22] <raj> gordonjcp, I want an easy way to work with my remote server
[22:22] <raj> move files around, etc
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> raj: unless you actually need it to run some of the software you need on the server, then don't install it
[22:22] <raj> I don't, I don't think
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: did you install 2.9 from a ppa?]
[22:22] <amb1s1> I have ubuntu running on my server. The server has a Gnome but since I have a server on the basement as media server, the server boot to command line. Is there a way to have openvpn start from the terminal?
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: it looks as if you installed it from a ppa and then removed the ppa
[22:23] <raj> does gtk library require X?
[22:23] <raj> if I want to manipulate video files
[22:24] <magicflakes> oh, I should look for that ppa and add it again right?
[22:24] <raj> GObject
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | magicflakes add the ppa again, then remove it with ppa-purge
[22:26] <magicflakes> okay, thanks hitsujiTMO. I'll give an update.
[22:29] <gordonjcp> what's the equivalent of "/etc/init.d/networking restart" in Ubuntu 13.10?
[22:29] <gordonjcp> if I type that, I get some nonsense about using "service" in an upstart system
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> sudo restart networking
[22:29] <gordonjcp> but if I type "sudo service restart networking" ubuntu crashes hard
[22:30] <minimec> gordonjcp: sudo service networking restart
[22:30] <gordonjcp> minimec: kernel panics
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: yes, known bug
[22:30] <gordonjcp> so, it's knackered then?
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: been there since release. i'm surprised they haven't fixed it
[22:30] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 is a disaster
[22:31] <gordonjcp> it's alpha quality at best
[22:31] <Meerkat> the clear 'form & search history' option on firefox 27 stopped working a few days ago. Is this a known issue?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: most of the issues in 13.10 appear to be ingored yet fixed in 14.04
[22:31] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: hm
[22:31] <sammy> is there a trick to getting iwconfig to apply rate settings? `sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M` yields no error, but doesn't change the connected speed.
[22:31] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 has destroyed my confidence in Ubuntu
[22:31] <bjoswald> I'm excited for 14.04 since I haven't upgraded in a long time
[22:31] <bjoswald> I don't trust "in-between" releases
[22:32] <Dandaman3452_> holy crap 14.04 already
[22:32] <wolfy1339_> where would i report a problem with my mouse? runnin 14.04
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: hmm, yeah, i think all focus is on the lts, especially in the 6 months before release. 13.10 is getting little attention
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339_: report a bug on launchpad
[22:32] <gordonjcp> hahaha, now what
[22:33] <wolfy1339_> but what package?
[22:33] <gordonjcp> "sudo service networking restart" appears to have destroyed X completely
[22:33] <gordonjcp> on rebooting, it's in low graphics mode
[22:33] <gordonjcp> Unity doesn't show up
[22:33] <gordonjcp> none of the text consoles show up
[22:33] <gordonjcp> once again, 13.10 is fucking *comically* broken
[22:34] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: please watch the language
[22:34] <gordonjcp> I give up
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: make me
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339_: most likely xorg related.
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: I've spent *hours* trying to work around the crippling bugs in this
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the constant decline in quality of Ubuntu releases
[22:35] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: the last thing I want to hear is Pollyanna-ish comments like that
[22:35] <IdleOne> seriously? not like this is your first time in an ubuntu channel. I know your frustrated but that doesn't mean you get to ignore the guidelines when you feel like it.
[22:35] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: clear?
[22:35] <gordonjcp> oh, fuck this
[22:35] <bjoswald> And that's that...
[22:36] <sammy> sad to see someone spend so much time trying to get something to work they paid *so much money* for...
[22:38] <sammy> I guess I'd expect iwconfig to return an exit code other than 0 if the iwconfig rate command didnt work, say for this particular driver or card
[22:38] <[RO]Daniel> :))
[22:38] <sammy> but instead I get an error code of 0 and the rate doesn't change.
[22:39] <minimec> wolfy1339_: Is that a USB mouse? could you give us additional information? Brand?
[22:40] <sammy> though, the fact that `iwlist wlan0 rate` yeilds 'unknown bit-rate information' instead of a list (before telling me the currently connected rate) leads me to believe I can't change the rate with the iwconfig command
[22:42] <elbixoAPODO> hola
[22:48] <basketball> elbixoAPODO:  hola
[22:53] <Rory> Hello basketball elbixoAPODO
[22:57] <kamil_> hy
[22:57] <GeekDude> Can I get ping to print something whenever a packet is dropped?
[22:57] <kamil_> im a newbie here
[22:57] <kamil_> can someone help me ?
[23:00] <AlanBell> what is up kamil_?
[23:00] <kostkon> !anyone | kamil_
[23:00] <erry> .
[23:01] <AlanBell> GeekDude: it kind of doesn't know it has dropped ICMP doesn't give a timescale for the reply, it could be *really* slow
[23:01] <kamil_> i try to change ubuntu 13.04 theme. but it's can be downloaded
[23:01] <kamil_> from noobslabs
[23:03] <AlanBell> kamil_: there is a PPA for that stuff https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/themes I haven't tried it myself though
[23:03] <GeekDude> AlanBell: Windows doesn't seem to have an issue like that. Can I specify a cutoff time?
[23:04] <GeekDude> -f is *kinda* like what I want, but not really
[23:04] <AlanBell> GeekDude: yeah, ping has a -W flag for that
[23:05] <bowser5543> erm.. anyone know if you can create a chat?
[23:05] <GeekDude> AlanBell: abd wgeb a packet takes longer than W milliseconds, it will print a request timeout?
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: W is in seconds
[23:06] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[23:06] <PL4SSM4NN> clear
[23:06] <bowser5543> ..
[23:06] <GeekDude> oh
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers for example ping with very very slow packets :)
[23:06] <amb1s1> is there a way to force ubuntu to boot to gnome even if there is not monitor plugin?
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: perhaps mtr or tracepath is the tool you really want to use
[23:07] <hiroshima> hello
[23:07] <GeekDude> AlanBell: I'm just trying to test the stability of my wifi dongle
[23:07] <GeekDude> I keep dropping packets
[23:07] <AlanBell> mtr then
[23:07] <hiroshima> hey can anyone reccomend a couple of good linux games?
[23:08] <GeekDude> AlanBell: Great. It started spewing network is unreachable :P
[23:08] <hiroshima> hey can anyone reccomend a couple of good linux games?
[23:08] <GeekDude> hiroshima: tux racer
[23:08] <fooper> hiroshima: What type?
[23:08] <hiroshima> any kind
[23:08] <HERM3S> I'm back :(
[23:08] <hiroshima> just general good games
[23:08] <AlanBell> hiroshima: flight of the amazon queen is in the repos
[23:09] <HERM3S> I am still having issues with nvidia drivers and two seperate cards
[23:09] <[RO]Daniel> hiroshima, try steam, they have quite a lot...i think it's a good start
[23:09] <hiroshima> ok
[23:09] <AlanBell> hiroshima: have a look in the software centre, there is a games category, oh yeah, and steam is games
[23:09] <fooper> hiroshima: Xonotic and assaultcube are FPSes, gl117, frozen bubble, that puzzle game that has a name I can't remember.
[23:09] <bowser5543> guys, i really need to create a chat for a project. Can anyone help?
[23:09] <hiroshima> thanks
[23:09] <AlanBell> bowser5543: you mean a channel like this?
[23:09] <fooper> enigma*
[23:10] <bowser5543> alan: like a private channel
[23:10] <basketball> !offtopic bowser5543
[23:10] <basketball> !offtopic | bowser5543
[23:10] <HERM3S> anyone good with driver issues?
[23:10] <basketball> HERM3S:  me kinda what you need
[23:10] <HERM3S> well...
[23:10] <HERM3S> I need the nvidia-331 driver... and bumblebee likes to take a crap on it
[23:11] <bowser5543> yeah.. thanks for the help. (disconnecting..)
[23:11] <HERM3S> I installed nvidia-331 and purged bumblebee
[23:11] <HERM3S> and that helped my two monitors (on a gts250)
[23:11] <HERM3S> but now the TV is a blank screen with an "x" as the mouse icon
[23:12] <HERM3S> two cards -  GTS250 and a GT 520
[23:12] <umib0zu> hitsujiTMO, thanks for you help by the way with the /boot. I didn't realize I really had to delete the img files since those are the largest
[23:12] <HERM3S> GTS 250 feeds two 25" monitors
[23:12] <HERM3S> GT 520 feed a 55" TV
[23:13] <HERM3S> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210394
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: np at all
[23:14] <umib0zu> are stable releases for ubuntu .04's or .10's?
[23:14] <basketball> HERM3S:  is that your question
[23:14] <HERM3S> yes
[23:14] <basketball> umib0zu:  both
[23:14] <HERM3S> i've let it simmer for the day... couldn't seem to lure in an expert yet
[23:14] <basketball> umib0zu:  .04 is april and .10 is october
[23:14] <umib0zu> well sorry. are LTS .04 or .10?
[23:14] <basketball> HERM3S:  let me take a look at it
[23:14] <HERM3S> appreciate it basketball
[23:15] <umib0zu> last time I checked I think 12.04 was LTS
[23:15] <somsip> umib0zu: 12.04 and next is 14.04
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: lts is typically an .04 release every even year
[23:16] <AlanBell> HERM3S: tried asking in #ubuntu-x?
[23:16] <HERM3S> negative
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: only one that never followed tht rule was 6.06 as it was release 2 months late
[23:16] <basketball> HERM3S:  im not sure about that one
[23:16] <umib0zu> ok
[23:17] <AlanBell> might be a good place to ask, during UK or US office hours mostly I think
[23:17] <GeekDude> AlanBell: mtr display mode 2 seems pretty nice. What does ">" stand for? "?" is missing/dropped packet, seemingly
[23:17] <HERM3S> thanks basketball  and AlanBell  - i'll check into it
[23:20] <magicflakes> ahh I can't seem to get the ppa for this one
[23:20] <magicflakes> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.1
[23:20] <basketball> magicflakes:  what do you mean
[23:21] <AlanBell> GeekDude: good question, I can't figure that out either
[23:21] <magicflakes> how can I add that to my source packages? I'm still new to ubuntu.
[23:23] <magicflakes> I mean I'm not sure what repository does it belong or the name of the repository.
[23:23] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:24] <HackerII> ride a horse
[23:25] <CarlFK> magicflakes: from what I can tell, that is in the raring repo
[23:25] <OerHeks> magicflakes, libxml2 is at 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.3 (raring) 2 points higher
[23:25] <OerHeks> !info libxml2 raring
[23:26] <magicflakes> how do I add raring ppa? im currently using 12.04 LTS
[23:26] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Ford in Weatherford. He has all the latest Fords in stock, whether it be sedans or trucks or SUVs. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing and leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Ford's business.
[23:27] <CarlFK> magicflakes: raring isn't a ppa - it is a ubuntu release
[23:27] <magicflakes> I need to re install the libxml2 for precise I guess but currently the one installed is from raring.
[23:28] <OerHeks> Hal_Jay, please don't spam
[23:28] <magicflakes> Or at least downgrade libxml2
[23:29] <basketball> magicflakes:  im sorrty what was your question
[23:30] <magicflakes> basketball: how to downgrade libxml2 2.9 to libxml2 2.7.8?
[23:30] <usr13> magicflakes: So what version do you have now?  (And on what version of Ubuntu?)
[23:30] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:30] <basketball> !spam | Hal_Jay
[23:30] <usr13> magicflakes: Sorry... misread your post.
[23:31] <basketball> usr13:  can i do this one
[23:31] <magicflakes> I have libxml2 2.9 on precise. And I'm not sure where I got that. Maybe I did some upgrade before.
[23:31] <usr13> basketball: Yes
[23:31] <basketball> thank usr13
[23:32] <usr13> magicflakes: Probably should be 2.7.8
[23:32] <magicflakes> Yes that is right.
[23:32] <OerHeks> magicflakes, maybe you have enabled backports or/and proposed
[23:32] <magicflakes> let me check
[23:32] <magicflakes> yes I have enabled it
[23:33] <basketball> ok OerHeks  take over
[23:33] <basketball> thats ok
[23:33] <usr13> magicflakes: There's your problem.
[23:33] <magicflakes> I'll just uncheck this one?
[23:33] <usr13> And do sudo apt-get clean
[23:34] <OerHeks> i would not say problem, why do you want to downgrade? disabling those sources does not reverse packages AFAIK
[23:34] <usr13> magicflakes: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:35] <magicflakes> okay
[23:35] <usr13> magicflakes: As OerHeks suggests, it may be impossible to repair the damage.
[23:35] <magicflakes> I have to install libxml2-dev but
[23:36] <magicflakes>   Depends: libxml2 (=2.7.8.dfsg-5.1ubuntu4.6) but 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4 is to be installed
[23:37] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:37] <magicflakes> too bad. so I have to reformat and re install again?
[23:38] <brady> What is the name of the service tool that Ubuntu currently uses? Is it upstart?
[23:38] <somsip> !upstart | brady
[23:38] <xiconet> Anybody here?
[23:39] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:39] <melt7777> hey guys, i customized my plymouth theme, and it works great on shutdown but still shows the default on boot.... i changed /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth to my themes plymouth file.... any ideas?
[23:39] <krytarik> magicflakes: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxml2" - at least to fix this one.
[23:40] <magicflakes> krytarik: Reinstallation of libxml2 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[23:40] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:41] <somsip> !ops | Hal_Jay (repeated spam)
[23:41] <melt7777> hal_jay, piss off
[23:41] <HERM3S> ^
[23:42] <HERM3S> this.
[23:42] <basketballl> How do i add the keyboard modifier state applet to the panel in Unity?
[23:43] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:43] <freshmint> hey is there anyway to enable save unity sessions on logout, that when you log back in it automatically restores all windows which have been left open under the previous session - im really missing that
[23:43] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:44] <ORA> HELLO
[23:45] <melt7777> !ops | Hal_Jay spam over and over, multiple channels
[23:47] <melt7777> thanks
[23:48] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:50] <dura-zell> Hi! I have a problem with a freshly installed machine. I'm trying to install 12.04.3 from an ISO I downloaded today. unfortunatly this doesn't work like intended. Currently it looks like this: Install -> reboot -> do something and shutdown / reboot -> system hangs and refuses to boot. Can someone advise me please on how to get this thing working?
[23:50] <Beldar> dusf123, Channel asks for 10 min between repeating.
[23:51] <Beldar> dura-zell, That info is moot it is not detailed.
[23:53] <Beldar> dura-zell, what does this actually mean "Hi! I have a problem with a freshly installed machine. I'm trying to install 12.04.3 from an ISO I downloaded today"?
[23:54] <dura-zell> didn't my text apear correctly? sorry. it was longer when I typed it
[23:54] <dura-zell> the machine does only reboot once
[23:54] <somsip> !nomodeset | dura-zell (may be what you need)
[23:54] <dura-zell> after the next reboot (or boot after shutdown) it hangs
[23:55] <dura-zell> i tried nomodeset (and removed splash and quiet parameters). It hangs
[23:55] <dura-zell> it like: install -> reboot to fresh installed system -> shutdown / reboot -> can't boot anymore
[23:55] <Beldar> dura-zell, What info is in that hang?
[23:57] <dura-zell> it hangs aft : microcode driver / something about an acpi conflict with gpio_ich and initializing my tv-capture cards
[23:58] <dura-zell> i can type it if you want me / need me to do it
[23:59] <Beldar> dura-zell, If you plugged into a bunch of stuff, you might try unplugging to just get a boot.
[23:59] <minimec> dura-zell: Have you tried reboot in recovery mode for debugging?