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Unit193"yes, the i386 retracer crashed, I restarted it yesterday"05:30
brainwashali1234: any idea what might be broken here? bug 128064110:50
ubottubug 1280641 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar not saving sidebar "places" bookmarks after exit" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128064110:50
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: I can confirm that your patch for bug 1185396 works11:34
ubottubug 1185396 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "users-admin crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_user_profiles_get_for_user()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118539611:34
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/1185396/comments/1611:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1185396 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "users-admin crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_user_profiles_get_for_user()" [High,Triaged]11:37
brainwashslickymasterWork: thanks for testing, but I think that it could be fixed differently, in a clean way (approved by memory logs)12:06
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: tbh I didn't saw the code for your fix. I'm a bit overwhelmed with work 12:07
slickymasterWorkI just add the PPA and tested it :P12:07
brainwashmy other MP for gnome-system-tools got rejected, because I should report the patch upstream12:07
brainwashbug 58608012:08
ubottubug 586080 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "[users-admin] "Properties" in users context menu has no effect" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58608012:08
slickymasterWorkhmm, well, at least that shows that the package is not completely abandoned upstream12:09
brainwashit is actually12:09
brainwashupstream means debian in this case12:09
slickymasterWorkYeah, I was referring to debian12:10
slickymasterWorkare you going to report this patch upstream?12:10
slickymasterWorkaor are you going to fiddle it a bit more12:11
slickymasterWorks/aor/or12:11
brainwashwas hoping that one of the ubuntu guys would do it, some of them create package for ubuntu and debian12:11
brainwashor simply just apply it for ubuntu only, it's dead software anyway12:12
slickymasterWorkwell, you're right, about being dead ;)~12:13
knomewell, hoping for others to do things often doesn't help12:13
knomewhy not do it yourself?12:13
brainwashI was hoping that we could have switched to mate-system-tools12:13
knomedon't think switching to otherDE-system-tools is cool12:14
brainwashI was not aware that I have to do it12:14
knomebrainwash, don't think you "have to", but it doesn't hurt to do that, right? :)12:14
brainwashI fixed the bug in ubuntu12:14
knomethere was that guy writing a new DE-agnostic user tool12:14
knome*user management tool12:14
knomethat looks the most promising12:15
brainwashbut mate-system-tools is a simple fork which still gets some love12:15
brainwashit works with Xfce12:15
knomei don't doubt that12:15
knomewhy wouldn't it? it's for user management12:15
knomebut anyway, using mate-system-tools doesn't sound at all better than using gnome-system-tools12:16
brainwashone could think, that it builds around the MATE DE12:16
knomeand if there is an alternative for those, why not?12:16
brainwashlike the new gnome3 user management tool does12:16
brainwashright, so we need something new for 14.10 :)12:17
knomepossibly12:17
slickymasterWorkhey knome, good morning12:17
knomebbl, phone12:18
slickymasterWorkI was away this weekend and was trying to know if the screenshots serve your purpose? 12:18
knomeyep12:23
knomehaven't been able to do anything with those yet12:23
knomecould do next12:23
knomeand will12:24
knomeslickymasterWork, done, refresh font page and you'll see your shots there12:27
knome(some)12:27
slickymasterWorkok, if you need anything else, just ping me12:27
knomethe next time we need to worry about those is some time before trusty release12:28
slickymasterWorkoh, btw, don't forget also the three -docs MP's12:28
knomei know...12:28
slickymasterWorkyeah, sorry for being such a pain in the neck :P12:28
knomenah12:28
knomelife is that ;P12:28
knomeand "real" work12:28
knomekeeps me doing xubuntu stuff12:29
slickymasterWorkagain, when you're right... you're right12:29
brainwashthe screenshots contain the word "Sex" (date)12:31
brainwash:-)12:31
brainwashreally sexy screenshots12:32
slickymasterWorklol, that's the portuguese abbreviation for friday, brainwash  12:34
slickymasterWorkin portuguese Sexta (friday) gets to be Sex (Fri) you dirty mind ;)12:35
brainwashoh, so it's not a subliminal message :P12:36
slickymasterWorkwho's to know, now :)12:37
slickymasterWorklunch time ->13:02
ali1234brainwash: i don't understand where to get that version. it isn't in the repositories15:41
brainwashali1234: it's Thunar 1.6.3-1ubuntu315:47
brainwashhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar15:49
ali1234yeah that is definitely broken15:51
ali1234oh, i know what it is, probably15:52
ali1234i can't actually reproduce it15:57
ali1234it's like the patch isn't applied at all15:57
brainwashI can't reproduce it either15:58
ali1234but the bookmarks aren't saved under gtk-3.015:58
brainwashwhat keeps both bookmark files in sync? nothing, right?16:01
ali1234nothing16:01
ali1234~/.gtk-bookmarks should be read only16:01
ali1234there is literally no way for the code to ever write to it when correctly patched16:01
ali1234yet it is writing to it16:01
ali1234my installed thunar does not even contain the string "bookmarks"16:02
ali1234which means it hasn't had this patch applied to it16:02
brainwasho.o16:02
ali1234Installed: 1.6.3-1ubuntu316:02
brainwashso the package has not been properly built?16:03
ali1234it certainly looks that way16:04
ali1234does it even work at all for you?16:04
ali1234for me it behaves 100% like the old version16:04
ali1234the package will not buidl locally:16:07
ali1234dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libxfce4ui-1.so.0 (used by debian/thunar/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libthunar-tpa.so)16:07
ali1234dh_shlibdeps: dpkg-shlibdeps -Tdebian/libthunarx-2-0.substvars -dRecommends debian/thunar/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libthunar-tpa.so -dDepends debian/libthunarx-2-0/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthunarx-2.so.0.0.0 debian/libthunarx-2-0/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-2/thunar-sbr.so debian/libthunarx-2-0/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-2/thunar-apr.so debian/libthunarx-2-0/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-2/thunar-wallpaper-plugi16:07
brainwashnew bookmarks do get saved here16:07
ali1234yes but where do they get saved?16:08
brainwashgtk316:08
brainwashdon't have the gtk2 file16:08
ali1234try deleting both bookmarks files16:08
brainwashdid that, then I added a new bookmark and it got saved in the gtk3 location16:10
ali1234ok, try deleting ~/.config/gtk-3.0 directory completely16:11
brainwashnow it stopped working16:12
ali1234yeah i thought so16:12
brainwashthe folder does not get recreated16:12
ali1234yes16:12
ali1234so it just needs to create the directory16:14
ali1234i will fix this and upload a new patch to bugzilla16:14
ali1234(which is currently broken)16:14
brainwashthanks :)16:15
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ochosiali1234: even if window-resizing could only solved within the compositor, that'd be nice actually16:48
elfymp3 player working in thunar after upgrade of mount - so that's usb's working for me in thunar \o/17:23
brainwashanyone testing light-locker-settings?18:28
brainwashlooks like it does not work 100% properly yet18:32
brainwashso we need some test results18:33
brainwash:)18:33
schproodlebrainwash, I did a test. Is there an update?18:36
brainwashno, should be still the initial release of light-locker-settings18:37
brainwashit works fine for you?18:37
schproodlebrainwash, odd. one still neesds to purge xscreensaver18:38
brainwashmaybe some meta package still depends on it18:39
schproodleIt passed the test:http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases/1630/results18:39
schproodleI have since tested the settings and function several times.  All on a vm.18:40
schproodlebrainwash, oops: this one: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases/1633/results18:41
brainwashbut that's only the test case for light-locker (the actual screen locker)18:41
brainwashah18:41
elfybrainwash - are you wkrekik or texadactyl on Launchpad?18:43
brainwashno18:43
schproodleelfy, appears that they are both from the testing18:43
brainwash<- https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch18:43
elfybrainwash> so we need some test results18:43
elfyoff you go then ;)18:44
elfythat'll be one more when you do it 18:44
brainwashjust installed -settings to give it a go... and noticed some oddities18:44
brainwashbut I'm glad that we already got a test case for -settings :)18:45
elfyyep18:49
elfymenulibre is the only one without one now18:49
elfyand there's only 2 mails to the -dev and -testers left on my list now18:50
schproodleelfy, I have a screen shot of the two-instances-of-lightdm-gtk-greeter in the taskbar.  Wanna see it?19:01
elfyI guess so19:02
schproodleor, I guess I could try ubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter.19:02
schproodleHow would I show the screenshot to you -- if you have the time or you could see it later.19:03
elfyreport it then - you can add screenshot as attachment19:03
schproodleok19:04
elfyunless there is one - ochosi had it I thought 19:04
schproodlebrainwash, I did the testcase for light-locker-setting again.  Seems fine here on vbox 4.3.8 64bit19:05
elfymight even have been fixed - just not seen it come through yet - in which case a bug report is pointless19:05
brainwashschproodle: thanks for testing again19:05
brainwasha screenshot is nice to have, but only log files will help in this case19:06
elfyschproodle: you can put the screenshot online for me to look at ;)19:06
elfyother than seeing what it looks like - I'm not bothered tbh19:07
schproodleOK, don't know how :(19:07
Unit193I'll do it.19:07
elfyschproodle: imagebin I use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add19:07
Unit193picpaste, imagebin, imgur, etc.19:07
brainwash..or even launchpad :)19:08
Unit193(I have it from PPA, no bug report.)19:08
Unit193brainwash: It finally retraced the bug from Sat. :P19:08
brainwashwhat bug?19:08
schproodlehttp://imagebin.org/29834019:09
ali1234brainwash: ok, gtk does g_file_make_directory_with_parents() to make the bookmarks folder.... thunar needs to do it too when saving19:10
elfyschproodle: never seen it - never even seen one there, let alone 2 19:10
Unit193brainwash: xorg, crashes on the trusty kernels.19:10
Unit193schproodle: From repo or ppa?19:10
ali1234schproodle: what is that dark bar?19:11
brainwashali1234: ok, should be easily fixable then19:11
schproodlemaybe I need a fresh Rx for my spectacles eh :)19:11
ali1234schproodle: also what does ps waxf say?19:12
ali1234the only way i can imagine this happening is if lightdm-gtk-greeter got zombified... twice19:12
elfyimage size is creeping up then - 945Mb19:13
Unit193Yeah. :/19:13
schproodlesee wickz19:15
schproodleali1234, don't know what the dark bar means eh19:15
wickzjack@jack-VirtualBox:~$ ps waxf | grep greet19:16
wickz 3283 pts/0    S+     0:00                  \_ grep --color=auto greet19:16
wickz 1939 ?        Sl     0:01 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter19:16
wickz 2775 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter19:16
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ali1234i need to see the whole thing19:16
elfyknome: new slideshow - where to report issues with it?19:16
elfyschproodle: please use a pastebin19:17
schproodleali1234, where do I put that -- gotta a url for pastebin or somesuch19:17
Unit193schproodle: ps waxf | pastebinit19:17
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069422/19:18
schproodlewickz is on the vm with the issue19:19
schproodleali1234, ^^19:19
schproodleali1234, anything else I might do.  How about ubuntu-bug.  This happens intermittently here.19:28
ali1234yes, i don't know what yet though19:28
ali1234please don't reboot the vm19:28
ali1234from the pastebin i can see that both the greeters are zombies19:29
schproodleali1234, I will keep it up if you want.  Please advise as you please.19:29
ali1234please pastebin /var/log/lightdm/*19:29
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069490/19:33
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069491/19:33
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069492/19:34
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069493/19:34
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069494/19:34
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069495/19:34
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069496/19:34
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069497/19:35
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069498/19:35
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069499/19:35
schproodleali1234, ^^ wickz 19:35
brainwashand "apt-cache policy lightdm-gtk-greeter"?19:36
wickzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7069515/19:37
schproodlebrainwash, ^^ wickz 19:37
elfyschproodle: they'll know who wickz is :)19:37
schproodleokeeleedokeelee, duh19:38
ali1234this might be related http://paste.ubuntu.com/7069492/19:38
brainwashstrange19:39
ali1234that would make sense actually19:39
ali1234those might not be gtk-greeter processes19:40
ali1234does it run the indicators by forking?19:40
wickzyeah schproodle is kinda weird19:40
ali1234i bet it does19:40
ali1234yeah... so this is my theory19:40
ali1234the indicator watchers bug causes the indicators to respawn "too fast"19:40
ali1234so it something turns them into zombies19:41
schproodleali1234, might this be vbox vm related?19:41
ali1234or the indicator is waiting for them to exit19:41
ali1234schproodle: no19:41
ali1234the problem here is that the process is turning to zombie instead of exiting clean19:42
schproodleintermittently19:42
ali1234yeah, it's a race condition19:42
ali1234if you look on the pswaxf there are more zombie processes19:43
ali1234lots of init --user --startup-event indicator-services-start19:43
ali1234so this is almost certainly related19:43
ali1234so, revised theory: gtk-greeter runs init to send the startup-event19:44
ali1234init goes zombie and that causes greeter to go zombie19:44
ali1234they both get reparented19:44
ali1234init still has indicator-sound-service as a child19:45
ali1234i know how to "fix" this19:45
ali1234it's a bug we've been waiting for unity to fix for months19:45
ali1234however, there might be secondary bug here19:46
ali1234ochosi: thoughts?19:46
ali1234if you run "top" on the vm, does it say you have zombies?19:47
schproodleali1234, '0 zombie'19:48
ali1234hmm19:48
ali1234no convinced :)19:48
ali1234those processes may not technically be zombie but they sure act like they are19:48
ali1234it is probably part of the "spawning too fast" protection to make it go into a "dormant" state similar to zombie but not quite the same19:49
schproodleali1234, if one right-clicks the taskbar entry, it says the program or window is not responding etc19:49
ali1234yes, because it's walking-dead :)19:49
Unit193I was able to right click > close.19:49
ali1234how easy can you guys reproduce this?19:49
schproodlescary and sordid, all that parenting eh19:49
ali1234try to reproduce after applying the no watchers workaround19:50
ali1234i bet you can't...19:50
schproodleintermittent here for about the last week19:50
ali1234put INDICATOR_ALLOW_NO_WATCHERS=1 in /etc/environment on a line on it's own and then reboot19:50
schproodleok...19:51
schproodleali1234, skip ubuntu-but, right?19:53
schproodle^but^bug19:53
schproodleready to reboot...19:54
ali1234well, you could open a bug, bug we've got all the logs now19:55
schproodlereboot then?19:55
ali1234sure19:55
schproodleup -- no taskbar lightdm* stuff19:57
schproodlewhat next?19:57
ali1234well, wait and see if it happens again19:58
schproodlethat /etc/environment line is on a vm system that I am upgrading from the iso option, so, it should remain there.19:59
ali1234hmm... probably it will ask if you want to keep the changes20:00
schproodleOk, I have no idea what it does.  If it happens again, I will report here.20:01
Unit193It'll ask for sure, but don't see it owned by any package.20:01
ali1234ochosi: how are you shutting down the indicators when exiting the greeter?20:02
schproodleUnit193, It might ask if I was upgrading with apt-get.  What is the difference from the iso upgrade option campared to apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade.20:02
ali1234good question actually...20:03
brainwashali1234: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter/trunk/view/head:/src/lightdm-gtk-greeter.c#L280020:04
ali1234hmm... ok that seems wrong20:04
ali1234they are launched by sending an upstart event20:04
ali1234upstart is going to try to keep them alive until it gets the shutdown signal i assume20:05
brainwashalready mentioned this20:05
ali1234so then gtk-greeter does waitpid20:05
ali1234that will never return20:05
ali1234or it will but by then there will be a new one20:05
brainwashbut... unity-greeter does the same20:05
ali1234so that's keeping everything around20:05
ali1234well, maybe unity-greeter has the same bug, who knows?20:05
brainwashi cannot reproduce it20:06
ali1234maybe unity-greeter sets the hint to not show on the panel?20:06
ali1234this is certainly related to the upstart managed indicators though20:06
brainwashyeah, like you've said: race condition20:07
elfyUnit193: you got a clue as to where to push a slide for our ubiquity slideshow?20:28
elfyor of course anyone else that sees ... 20:29
Unit193elfy: lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu20:31
elfyknome: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/slide1/+merge/21029120:33
elfythanks Unit193 20:33
Unit193Sure.20:34
schproodleali1234, looking at the image of the lightdm double entry, I noticed that the icons on the desktop are missing.20:35
ali1234probably an unrelated bug20:35
knomeelfy, will look at that later20:46
knomei will try to take some time for tomorrow to go through all the pending merge proposals20:46
elfy:)20:48
elfyknome: I don't even know if there are others doing the same thing tbh - I just noticed it a short while ago20:48
knomeelfy, not for that slide, no20:54
knomeelfy, we did land the new slides for b1 for the reason of getting feedback20:54
knomeso thanks ;)20:54
elfy:)20:55
schproodleali1234, reproduced lightdm-gtk-greeter -- this time with the /etc/environment line 21:18
schproodleali1234, desktop icons are also missing21:18
ali1234hmm... ok, thanks21:18
schproodlewhat next if anything?21:19
brainwashubuntu-bug21:19
brainwashregarding the missing desktop icons, can you right-click the desktop to trigger the context menu?21:20
schproodlewell, when I clicked on the desktop the icons appeared!21:20
ali1234that is probably the background of lightdm-gtk-greeter obscuring the desktop21:20
schproodleI left clicked inadvertently21:20
schproodleright click doe not work21:21
brainwashthat's not normal21:22
brainwashdoes running "xfdesktop --reload" restore the desktop functionality?21:23
schproodleubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter then?21:23
brainwashyes21:23
schproodlewill do ...reload21:23
schproodledo the reload before bug?21:24
brainwashyeah21:24
schproodleok, have not done this before -- advice welcome21:25
Unit193ali1234: I'd say so as well, when I closed the window the desktop came up.21:28
brainwashso, did the reload change anything?21:28
Unit193(IIRC)21:28
wickzstill doing bug...21:28
ali1234wickz: attach all the logs please21:29
wickzreload did not correct right-click dysfuntion21:30
ali1234hmm21:31
wickzali1234, what logs...appport had completed and browser is open 'report a bug'21:31
ali1234finish bug report first21:31
wickzOK21:31
ali1234hmm i actally have one of these zombies on my machine21:31
wickzgotta nice concise summary for me?21:32
ali1234anything you like. i'll edit it when i figure out what is going on21:32
ali1234"lightdm-gtk-greeter doesn't exit cleanly when logging in"21:33
wickzali1234, ok21:33
ali1234although i don't have any greeter processes21:33
ali1234wickz: also please link to the bug here21:41
schproodleali1234, what about the logs?21:53
schproodleali1234, bug #129057521:59
ubottubug 1290575 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129057521:59
ali1234thanks. i'll fill in the rest21:59
schproodleali1234, logs or anything else from me, please advise.21:59
ali1234not sure really22:00
ali1234you could try to attach gdb to the dead greeter process and then get a backtrace22:03
ali1234i get it's on waitpid()22:03
ali1234*bet22:03
wickzI put the logs ^^ in a comment: pastebin /var/log/lightdm22:06
wickzI put the logs ^^ in a comment: pastebin /var/log/lightdm/*22:06
wickzdon't know about gdb debugger eh for a backtrace, please advise22:07
ali1234run pidof lightdm-gtk-greeter22:07
ali1234then run gdb -p <the first number>22:07
ali1234then press ctrl-c22:07
ali1234then type bt22:08
wickzno stack22:09
ali1234hmm22:09
ali1234so it really exited22:09
ali1234it's not waiting22:09
ali1234weird22:10
ali1234i'll need to make a vm and try to reproduce i suppose22:10
wickzsomeone has left a comment on the bug report22:11
wickzIt appears that lightdm-gtk-greeter is waiting for init (upstart) to exit. upstart is in turn waiting on the indicator services to exit. From the log:22:12
ali1234that was me22:12
wickzali1234, anything else from me at this time?22:19
ali1234i don't think so22:19
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Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1289852 nice.23:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1289852 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in miCreateScreenResources()" [Undecided,New]23:25

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