[00:02] <hatch> rick_h_ ping?
[00:02] <hatch> :)
[00:03] <rick_h_> hatch: pong
[00:03] <hatch> so I got it to work in Safari
[00:03] <rick_h_> hatch: woot
[00:03] <hatch> but the best that can be done is to open it up in another window
[00:04] <rick_h_> huh?
[00:04] <hatch> so the user will have to 'save' the webpage manually
[00:04] <rick_h_> I'm confused, isn't this about dragging/dropping the local charm to deploy it?
[00:04] <hatch> are you on OSX right now?
[00:04] <rick_h_> or this is about saving the bundle?
[00:04] <rick_h_> for export?
[00:04] <hatch> saving the bundle
[00:04] <hatch> for export
[00:04] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[00:04] <rick_h_> ok, well if that's what we can get for now I'll take it. Does local deploys work then ok?
[00:05] <rick_h_> maybe we can look at making it better by having the guiserver send the file down as a download
[00:05] <rick_h_> then it can set the content-disposition and such
[00:05] <rick_h_> and the gui can proxy/send it there
[00:05] <rick_h_> eventually we'll need to support fat bundles
[00:06] <rick_h_> and need zips/etc so just opening in a new tab might not work out for that
[00:06] <hatch> yeah local charm and bundle deploys work well (at least in sandbox)
[00:06] <hatch> yeah - that can probably be pushed though
[00:06] <hatch> the guiserver bit....
[00:07] <rick_h_> hatch: cool, ok then get that branch going and we'll do some safari QA and in our deploy that week we can QA and add safari support as official
[00:07] <rick_h_> at least it's feature complete (though suboptimal)
[00:07] <hatch> yeah they have to actually hit cmd+s when the new window opens up then save as bundle.yaml
[00:07] <hatch> oh well
[00:07] <rick_h_> k, will look forward to trying it out maybe think if there's something a little nicer we could do
[00:08] <hatch> I was thinking trying to put it as a 'download me' button but I've read mixed reviews
[00:08] <hatch> as in that it works, or it doesn't
[00:08] <hatch> safari just has some weird issues
[12:50] <bac> rick_h_: another handy bit only in 1.0+ http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-request-min-score.html
[12:51] <rick_h_> bac: :( the sadness levels are getting pretty darn high
[12:51] <rick_h_> bac: so souds like doing a limit is the best thing to do for now?
[12:52] <rick_h_> bac: so if the search is not a keyword (charm/bundle) limit to 20 or 30?
[12:52] <bac> rick_h_: i was going to do a limit and filter out low scores
[12:54] <rick_h_> bac: sounds like a plan. 
[12:54] <rick_h_> bac: hmm, might also check out https://jujucharms.com/sidebar/search/precise/elasticsearch-3 at some point. It used to only download ES, but looks like it's got some local options now. 
[12:54] <rick_h_> though looks like it's still defaulting to 0.9
[12:57] <bac> yep, just saw that
[13:14] <frankban> guihelp: I need two reviews for https://codereview.appspot.com/74010044 (quickstart). Anyone available?
[13:14] <rick_h_> frankban: will look
[13:14] <frankban> rick_h_: thanks
[13:15] <rick_h_> frankban: can you keep an eye out for the guy in #juju while I go through this please? I'm really not sure what the 'problem' he's hitting yet
[13:15] <frankban> rick_h_: sure
[14:11] <rick_h_> frankban: yea, ignore me on the which thought
[14:11] <rick_h_> was a drive-by, thanks for pondering it
[14:11] <frankban> rick_h_: np, thanks
[14:18] <hatch_> rick_h_ thanks for the comments - replies incoming
[14:19] <rick_h_> hatch_: ok cool, prepping of vuds so will try to keep an eye/reply but might be a delay
[14:19] <hatch_> yeah no problem
[14:19] <hatch_> odd
[14:19] <hatch_> irc dc'd when I shut wifi off, but youtube didn't
[14:20] <hatch_> so it seems that some applications can switch but some cannot
[14:23] <bac> why do we still show a QR code on the UDS schedule?
[14:24] <hatch_> bac so you can turn your desktop camera on your monitor to get the link
[14:24] <hatch_> duh....
[14:24] <hatch_> :P
[14:25] <bac> and when people post the link on fb that is the image it gets.  :(
[14:25] <hatch> yeah...but in their defence every link on facebook looks like spam and they don't give you the option to change the highlight photo :)
[14:36] <arosales> gui team avilable for the upcoming uDS sessions @ 15:00 utc?  (http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22207/juju-gui-update-for-1404/)
[14:36] <rick_h_> arosales: I'll be joining
[14:36] <arosales> rick_h_: thanks, jcastro will be kicking it off and "MC'ing" for this first session
[14:36] <rick_h_> jujugui everyone else is welcome to attend :)
[14:37] <rick_h_> arosales: cool, thanks
[14:44] <jcastro> rick_h_, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi62bajfc3bo03go7adk7l8?hl=en
[14:44] <rick_h_> jcastro: rgr
[14:46] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYedgbe8QbF6_T5pANktS66Jd2pAtYOlz76ubuR-hXNTo24WUQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[14:46] <jcastro> is the right one
[15:03] <hatch> oo boy don't click that etherpad link
[15:03] <hatch> :)
[15:05]  * bac goes to click
[15:06] <hatch> it took the browser down :)
[15:09] <bac> hatch: ha you're a mole
[15:09] <hatch> lol
[15:10] <hatch> sometimes you just need someone to break the silence :D
[15:29] <hatch> gw!
[15:32] <rick_h_> yay
[15:32] <rick_h_> done with uds, carry on
[15:33] <hatch> lol
[15:33] <hatch> can we have our standup now so I can listen to one at 16:00 ? :)
[15:35] <frankban> cool presentation
[15:35] <rick_h_> hatch: heh, what's at 16:00?
[15:36] <rick_h_> since we're all interrupted juju want to do standup now?
[15:36] <rick_h_> and make hatch happy?
[15:36] <hatch> lol
[15:36] <hatch> rick_h_ HTML5 SDK Roadmap
[15:36] <rick_h_> hatch: ah that's a cool one
[15:36] <hatch> I see the gui as a native app ;)
[15:37]  * rick_h_ runs
[15:37] <hatch> lol
[15:38] <frankban> hazmat: I backported the deployer and the python-jujuclient to precise, quantal and saucy. The packages are in my ppa for now ( https://launchpad.net/~frankban/+archive/ppa/+packages ). My plan is to move them over to the juju stable PPA when we'll package the next quickstart release (hopefully this week). how does it sound?
[15:39] <hatch> so jujugui, guichat now? 
[15:39] <frankban> hatch: call now is ok for me
[15:39] <Makyo> +1
[15:39] <rick_h_> jujugui ok let's do hangout and get it over with please. Sorry for the confusing schedule today
[15:39] <rick_h_> benji: bac ^
[15:39] <hatch> awesome
[15:39] <bac> sure
[15:41] <hatch> Makyo we are starting
[15:42] <bac> Makyo: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/cmljay5oYXJkaW5nQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0
[15:42] <Makyo> Oop, sorry, thanks
[15:42] <hazmat> frankban, very awesome
[15:43] <frankban> hazmat: cool
[15:49] <Makyo> rick_h_, I'm game
[15:49] <rick_h_> Makyo: cool
[15:59] <hatch> I'll get that safari card out of the lane as quick as I can
[16:00] <rick_h_> cool yea no rush. I mean two of those are urgent things for release this week so override is ok
[16:00] <hatch> rick_h_ I can join in for the interview 
[16:00] <hatch> yeah ok cool
[16:00] <rick_h_> just want to make sure we get back to our regularly scheduled feature work after we get this stuff fixed up :)
[16:01] <hatch> yeah - I think we are ok with the poker points so far
[16:01] <hatch> so that's good
[16:01] <rick_h_> Makyo: if you could get with hatch and get onboarded to help with the inspector stuff I think that'd be great
[16:01] <hatch> brb
[16:02] <Makyo> rick_h_, hatch sure - will after review.
[16:02] <rick_h_> Makyo: thanks
[16:05] <hatch> bak
[16:13] <hatch> jujugui lf a review for the safari bundle export stuff https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/174 will need to be someone with windows and osx
[16:13] <Makyo> hatch, on it.
[16:13] <hatch> thanks
[16:15] <hatch> Makyo I'm going to add a comment to that line in app.js that I changed
[16:15] <hatch> just fyi
[16:17] <Makyo> Okay
[16:17] <hatch> updated
[16:24] <rick_h_> jujugui please check email for the sprint email. If you don't have one let me know asap
[16:27] <hatch> lf roomie re-sprint :)
[16:29] <frankban> jujugui, marcoceppi: tomorrow I am going to update deployer and python-jujuclient packages on the juju stable PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable/+packages ) newer versions are trusty backports (deployer 0.3.4 and jujuclient 0.17.3). if you have any packages depending on older versions please let me know
[16:29] <benji> frankban: do you have a time to review this for me? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/175
[16:30] <frankban> benji: sure
[16:30] <benji> thanks
[16:30] <marcoceppi> frankban: update away! I was going to, but I haven't the time
[16:30] <frankban> cool
[16:31] <marcoceppi> which reminds me, bac your changes to bundle proof are in 1.2.10 and it's been released as of a few hours ago
[17:24] <rick_h_> frankban: I'm watching but a joyent provider might be coming to juju in 14.04. Adding a card to look into that for quickstart. 
[17:27] <frankban> rick_h_: cool
[17:27] <jcastro> rick_h_, is it too early to whine about directional relationships in bundles?
[17:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: yes, card is on the board will be started today hopefully and will work hard to get released this week
[17:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: it's the #1 thing on the list atm
[17:28] <frankban> benji: done.
[17:28] <bac> marcoceppi: cool, thanks
[17:28] <benji> frankban: thanks, I've been looking over your comments already
[17:29] <jcastro> rick_h_, ok I'll adjust my cards to hit this on like thursday then
[17:29] <rick_h_> jcastro: k
[17:30] <frankban> benji: yeah this git real time comments stuff spoils all the suspense...
[17:30] <benji> heh
[17:30] <benji> yeah, I'm pretty iterative in my reviews, so I don't like the real time comments
[17:32] <frankban> agreed, I prefer Rietveld
[17:50] <frankban> rick_h_: you are not listed as a travel authorizer in the travel request form
[17:51] <rick_h_> frankban: k, I'll email and see what I can do
[17:51] <frankban> rick_h_: thanks
[18:00] <rick_h_> jujugui use mark ramm as your travel auth person. 
[18:00] <rick_h_> frankban: ^
[18:00] <hatch> oops
[18:01] <hatch> I used robbie
[18:01] <rick_h_> hatch: heh
[18:01] <frankban> rick_h_: ack thanks
[18:02] <hatch> I guess I can send him an email
[18:03] <rick_h_> hatch: all good, see if it's gets ok'd I guess. If not we'll send emails around
[18:03] <hatch> yeah 
[18:03] <hatch> :)
[18:13] <rick_h_> Makyo: hatch got a sec to hangout?
[18:14] <hatch> I do
[18:14] <rick_h_> frankban: are you up for hanging out late to interview or would you prefer to pass?
[18:14] <Makyo> rick_h_, sure.
[18:14] <rick_h_> bac: did you want to help interview? 
[18:15] <bac> rick_h_: sure
[18:15] <rick_h_> ok, everyone interested hop into the daily hangout please
[18:16] <frankban> rick_h_: I can join, but I have to go in 10ish
[18:16] <rick_h_> frankban: k, it's not today just planning
[18:16] <rick_h_> but will let you know when we set up
[18:17] <frankban> rick_h_: oh, just planning, ok thank you then
[18:19] <rick_h_> frankban: ok, but when we do schedule you're not opposed to hanging around late one day to participate?
[18:20] <frankban> rick_h_: I am fine with that
[18:20] <rick_h_> ok
[18:42] <rick_h_> hatch: are you still looking for a review or did Makyo get you covered?
[18:42] <Makyo> rick_h_, hatch on it, just getting safari up
[18:43] <rick_h_> Makyo: ah ok cool
[18:43] <rick_h_> thanks!
[18:43] <hatch> :)
[18:43] <hatch> sorry it's a lot of qa for such a simple change
[18:43] <Makyo> That's fine.
[18:43] <Makyo> The code looks okay, though.  The style is jarring, but it's not really our file, is it?
[18:43] <bac> rick_h_: by 'no windows' i meant our house doesn't have glass in the windows, except in the bedroom.  so there is no 'opening it up' to let the fresh air in.
[18:44] <rick_h_> bac: whoa! <3
[18:44]  * rick_h_ wants a house with the doorwalls that fold open
[18:44] <rick_h_> and turn your area into indoor/outdoor areas
[18:44] <rick_h_> but I live in MI...so not
[18:45] <rick_h_> but hopefully will get my screened porch this summer and have something like that 
[19:04] <Makyo> hatch, +1
[19:06] <hatch> awesome thanks
[19:06] <hatch> safari support here we come
[19:12] <rick_h_> jujugui ci seems to have gone boom. Looking into wtf happened. 
[19:14] <hatch> :(
[19:15] <rick_h_> grrrrr, there's 3 machines there now and they're not the right ones. 
[19:37] <hatch> :-\ need a hand with anything?
[19:41] <rick_h_> hatch: not sure, I can load the gui up, but the jenkins server doesn't match what the gui says it is
[19:41] <rick_h_> ssh'ing into trying to find the jenkins server
[19:44] <rick_h_> which none of the three seem to be, but there's a gui instance with a jenkins service in it
[19:45] <rick_h_> ooh, got my juju status back yay
[19:52] <rick_h_> jujugui the CI environment went boom. It's looking like a redo is on the table
[19:52] <rick_h_> jujugui but I've got a talk I'm giving tonight and will be afk, so will start on this in the morning. 
[19:53] <hatch> oops
[19:54] <hatch> rick :(
[19:54] <rick_h_> hatch: yea 
[19:54] <hatch> do we know why it failed?
[19:54] <rick_h_> hatch: so no landing atm, I do have system backups from the ci server each day so hopefully not more than a couple of hours
[19:54] <rick_h_> well, so it's freaking strange. 
[19:54] <rick_h_> at first I thought it was because I ran quickstart with azure set and then cancelled it
[19:54] <rick_h_> but I can't htink of why it would do that
[19:55] <rick_h_> but I've got 3 machines, and juju status worked for a minute, and gave me https://pastebin.canonical.com/106279/
[19:55] <rick_h_> which says the agent on the ci server is down
[19:55] <rick_h_> but I can't ssh to it, and that ip addr is not listed in the azure control panel as any of the 3 machines
[19:55] <rick_h_> so no...I don't know wtf is going on
[19:56] <hatch> :/
[19:56] <hatch> ok I'll create a larger branch then a bunch of smaller ones :)
[19:56] <rick_h_> :)
[20:34] <hatch> benji I saw you trying to land your branch....see above, CI is busted
[20:47] <bac> boo:   isinstance('abc', collections.Iterable)
[20:47] <bac> -> True
[20:53] <benji> bac: yeah, making strings iterable is one of Python's mistakes, IMHO
[20:54] <bac> so annoying
[21:08] <hatch> haha that is odd
[22:58] <hatch> ugh the stupid loader code......
[23:59] <rick_h_> ruh roh