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AirBotLogs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/11/%23ubuntu-on-air.html following the conclusion of the session.19:00
NivexI see you Jono19:01
Nivexon vid anyway19:01
nhainesI can see and hear you. :)19:01
jdrab_skype anyone? .. :D19:02
nhainesQUESTION: The work done on orgami-inspired icon sets for the phone are beautiful and inspired.  Especially in light of the new default wallpaper designs for trusty, do you know why bringing this theming to the desktop hasn't been seen as very important?19:04
jdrab_QUESTION: is there any even remote possibility to opensource landscape? :)19:04
nhainesQUESTION: Today's Clean your Home Office Day!  Any plans?  :)19:04
vasil_QUESTION:When will unity 8 launch19:05
nhainesWe'll wait for you to go get the tablet.  We'll just hum until you get back.  ;)19:05
ubuntoshfkflslshey19:06
jdrab_nhaines: or we can sing..19:06
nhainesjdrab_: I don't know the words.  :)19:06
jdrab_or call jono on skype :D19:06
KiranYeah Jono19:06
ubuntoshfkflslsiPhone rocks19:06
nhainesQUESTION: Will the Ubuntu SDK provide patterns to help developers work with the new bottom edge design?19:06
jdrab_aww that looks great19:06
AdilouQUESTION: When will the ubuntu touch be launched? And are you planning to sell it like to phone-makers (samsung, nokia... etc)?19:07
Kiranyillurawesome19:07
ubuntoshfkflslsnobody wants ubntu touch19:07
NivexVan Canto FTW!19:07
fgreinusQUESTION: how will the phone updates be like? over-the-air just like at android or iOS?19:07
nhainesAdilou: Ubuntu's already been launched on phones and the second release will be in April with 14.04.  Phones hitting stores is up to manufactures, not Canonical or Ubuntu.19:07
nhainesfgreinus: yes, the phone updates over the air.19:08
eh-o-eh-othat phone looks pretty sweet19:08
ubuntoshfkflslsnobody care ubuntu19:08
ubuntoshfkflsls:D19:08
eh-o-eh-oit IS pretty neat19:08
Adilouoh great, didn't know about that! thanks19:08
nhainesThat is probably the best use of Grumpy Cat ever.19:08
ubuntoshfkflslsshut up babe19:10
ubuntoshfkflslsalways talkin19:10
ubuntoshfkflsls:D19:10
ubuntoshfkflslsuse macbook or sth19:10
ubuntoshfkflslsChloeWolfieGirl: you bitch19:11
nhainesChloeWolfieGirl: ignore him, apparently he has nothing better to do.  Welcome!19:11
ChloeWolfieGirlnhaines: ah I see, thank you, I was scared then xD19:12
nhainesChloeWolfieGirl: we can't really control who comes in or make them leave, but we don't have to put up with it.  Thanks for staying.  :)19:13
timppaQUESTION: Will the Ubuntu touch core apps one day share a common color theme?19:14
ChloeWolfieGirlnhaines: Nah, I enjoy joining these, my internets being awful atm though unfortunately ;-;19:14
ali_QUESTION: Dear Mr Bacon. A couple of weeks ago you said you've seen some cool design for unity8 desktop. But in the last Q&A you said that desktop would look the same as the current unity 7. I was hoping there would be some new UI design for Desktop. When will we see the design for unity 8 desktop?19:16
vasil_QUESTION:What about ubuntu for android any news whent it will be coming19:16
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: I Updated today on 14.04 and saw a new icon pack called Suru, is this conformation that the icon theme will be complete for 14.04?19:16
nhainesvasil_: Ubuntu for Android has to be something a manufacturer licenses and brings to their phones.  It's probably not a priority now that Ubuntu is coming.19:16
NivexQUESTION: I'm considering replacing Android with Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. Any exciting features in store for Touch 14.04 ?19:17
LanDiQUESTION: how is going the battery life compared to android on the same device ?19:17
nhainesQUESTION: I know you're a big barbecue fan.  How much barbecue sauce does Jack eat?19:17
nhainesQUESTION: Orange-purple gradient wallpapers: great default or greatest default?19:18
Nivex(Mine's not the 2013 version)19:19
sebsebsebhi19:20
timppaQUESTION: Will the tablet UI (Same as Nexus 10) come to Nexus 7?19:20
vasil_QUESTION:Will there be a ubuntu edge tablet19:20
KiranQUESTION: Ubuntu Touch for HP Touchpad19:21
TuxkalleQUESTION Do the wlan works on your nexus 4 with ubuntu phone os on ?19:21
nhainesKiran: that's not a question!  :)19:21
KiranIs it compatible was what I wanted to know. Sorry, first timer here :)19:22
nhainesNivex: then it's not supported hardware.  But it probably still works.  The community might continue development.19:22
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: How is everyone at Canonical/Ubuntu, it must be stressful getting all of this out!19:22
nhainesKiran: that's a technical support question.  :)  Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices19:23
nhainesIt's not supported, but maybe someone has been working on it.19:23
nhainesKiran: also, I'm glad you could make it today.  Welcome!  :D19:23
KiranNathan: Thanks and Glad here :)19:24
zissisThats was fanny for me  "to many windows" ? :) joke ! versions ?19:25
timppaQUESTION: I will refrase my question, will the sidestage come to nexus 7?19:25
sebsebsebQUESTION:  Ubuntu TV the next big thing, after the phone and tablet?19:26
LevanQUESTION: what is the bq upcoming phone specs ??19:27
Levanubuntu phone19:28
vasil_QUESTION:Will there be other versions of ubuntu touch like kubentu touch or a gnome touch ui19:28
nhainesQUESTION: Please confirm for the tabloid tech blogs: after the desktop, Ubuntu smartphone first, TV after?  ;)19:28
nhainesGrr.19:28
nhainesQUESTION: Apparently I have an inability to type "smartwatch".  This is probably a sign.19:28
timppaQUESTION: Will sidestage be available in 14.04 on Nexus 7? :)19:29
nhainesWell, that's twice I've mangled that joke.  Probably time to retire it.  :P19:29
vasil_QUESTION:Are there any plans of making an ubuntu kernel19:30
LevanQUESTION: Any ophinion an Google chrome os team talking about linux not being good19:30
RogerCarderQuestion   whats the battery life like on your phone ? PS Nothine else matters is Fantasic and we love your video for it.19:30
nhainesQUESTION: do you think the Ubuntu tablet interface would be an intriguing fit for pubic use kiosks or point-of-sale devices?19:31
LanDiQUESTION: Any plans for Ubuntu Glass ? LOL19:31
NivexQUESTION: Is 32-bit being phased out in favor of 64-bit everywhere/19:31
dpadilla0907QUESTION: When is the official release date for both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Touch?19:32
Ads20000I can see you19:32
Ads20000oh I see19:32
Ads20000nvm19:32
LevanQUESTION: Marvel or DC19:32
KiranQUESTION How to contribute to Ubuntu Development. For info I am from India19:33
LevanQUESTION: is ubuntu touch x32 or x64 and why ??19:33
nhainesQUESTION: With 14.04 coming out, a lot of community advocates might be getting ready to give presentations on Ubuntu for release parties, installfests, and so on.  Any presentation or speaking tips?19:33
borenQUESTION:  If GTK can run on Mir, then what do we do about confinement?19:34
sebsebsebQUESTION: What do you think in general about different age ranges of people contributing to open source projects in general, from rather young to  quite old?19:34
BlinQUESTION: Will Ubuntu on phone have good energy saving? Or above the still have to work?19:35
Ads20000QUESTION: Joey from OMG! Ubuntu! tells me that Ubuntu Phones might not support desktop mode by default, but surely Uniity 8 will work with desktop and touch interfaces because it's all one things so surely I can just plug it in and use it? Also he was saying that I wouldn't be able to use desktop app on touch if they don't enable it but surely it should just work if I choose to use APT and XMir?19:35
vasil_QUESTION:Will ubuntu touch have a support time of 7 months and then a LTS or are you taking an other aproach19:36
nhainesAds20000: Unity 8 doesn't work on the desktop until 14.10 or 15.04--no work's been done on it yet.  So that'd have to land first before convergent use can be developed.19:36
Kiko075QUESTION: Hi Jono , please recommend best ubuntu compatible current  phone hardware to buy and install ubuntu  on it?19:37
Ads20000nhaines: True but Joey was implying that they 'wouldn't enable it'...19:38
LevanQUESTION: is there a place to see all the ubuntu touch software from PC ?? like playstor etc... (if not is it planned ??)19:38
nhainesAds20000: it doesn't exist, so first it has to exist before it can be enabled or disabled.  :)19:39
RogerCarderQuestion :  Guitar yes19:40
LevanIs my Windows 8 messing up or the sound is messed up ??19:40
nhainesKiko075: Jono may have his own ideas, but I recommend not buying an Android phone to put Ubuntu on it.  I recommend waiting until Ubuntu is for sale and then buying that.19:41
timppanhaines, Kiko075 or you could do both! :) First buy nexus 4 and after ubuntu phones are available buy one also.19:42
nhainestimppa: you can't buy Nexus 4s anymore.19:43
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When will UTouch be the Number 1 mobile platform, or at least have more market share then WP8?19:43
nhainesI like Ubuntu on my Nexus 5, but I'll be even happier when sound is smooth.  ;)19:43
timppanhaines: oh, that's a valid point :)19:43
nhainesQUESTION: José Antonio Rey is both young and an awesome community leader.  Does this mean he is probably a robot?19:44
Kiko075nhaines: Is everything working on your Nexus 5 ?19:45
YanpasHi! Does Canonical plan to create cloud apps for contacts, calendars, like Apple icloud?19:45
nhainesKiko075: brightness sensor isn't working, and sound is really choppy.  Which probably means I need to go back and figure out what was working when it was less choppy and do more testing.19:46
nhainesKiko075: I haven't tested calling on it yet, though.19:46
nhainesQUESTION: Yanpas asked, "Hi! Does Canonical plan to create cloud apps for contacts, calendars, like Apple icloud?"19:49
vasil_QUESTION:Do i have to sell my house to publesh on the ubuntu ouch app store19:50
Kiko075nhaines: Will be great if we succeed to make at least one HW with all the features working19:50
Ubuntumanhttp://vimeo.com/7194382719:50
nhainesvasil_: it's one or two clicks in the SDK and it's automatically published.  :)19:50
LanDiGuitar Yes19:50
Akiva-Mobile1QUESTION HOW SUCCESSFUL HAS DONATION BEEN ON THE UBUNTU DOWNLOAD PAGE19:52
Kiko07510x19:52
LanDiQUESTION: What about playing games on Ubuntu phone ? is already any out there ?19:52
vasil_will desktop apps run on mobile19:52
vasil_QUESTION: will desktop apps run on mobile19:53
nhainesQUESTION: If someone were starting on an Ubuntu-based OS installer today, do you think there's still a place for creating Ubuntu derivatives like Mint, or do you think flavors are a more productive way to go?19:53
NivexQUESTION: What's still needed in Ubuntu for you to give up the Mac for your music work?19:53
nhainesLanDi: there are a number of Ubuntu games on the phone, tablet, and desktop.  :)19:53
ubuntumanhttp://vimeo.com/7194382719:54
naumQUESTION: Is the donations money enough or you want more? :)19:54
nhainesnaum: always need more.  :)19:54
timppaQUESTION: When multitasking is available on UT for 3rd party apps?19:54
rjandrewswhen will ubuntu touch come to nexus 519:54
LevanQUESTION:  Politics, what about Russia and Ukraine conflict, In my opinion Ukraine should forget about Crimea, Europe is to much dependent on Russia19:54
nhainestimppa: multitasking is available, all apps suspend when not focused, and there are no plans to change that for anyone.19:55
Akiva-Mobile1QUESTION After Unity 8, will there be a Unity 9, and will we have to reprogram apps to fit into it?19:55
Akiva-Mobile1And when?19:55
LevanQUESTION when will canonical turn it up to eleven??19:55
Levanhttp://youtu.be/4xgx4k83zzc19:55
nhainesAkiva-Mobile1: of course there will be a Unity 9 eventually.  You won't have to reprogram apps to fit into it anymore than you've had to for Unity 4, 5, 6, or 7.  (Which means at all: the APIs are nice and stable.)19:56
YanpasHow will comunicate different ubuntu devices? Fo example in future ubuntuphone could be remote for ubuntu TV. Apple has airplay, icloud and we see ecosystem. Will ubuntu do th same in future?19:56
Akiva-Mobile1nhaines: hmmm  thanks19:56
vasil_QUESTION:CAN you run html apps on ubuntu touch now or they hav to be ported,sorry for asking so many questions19:57
timppanhaines: multitasking or app backgrounding... :) If I create a navigation/GPS software it does not work because phone goes to suspend. So no plans on that?19:57
Akiva-Mobile1QUESTION Top 5 Apps that Canonical needs for ubuntu phone19:57
nhainesvasil_: they run just fine and have since the 13.04/13.10 development cycle.  :)19:57
nhainestimppa: no such plans.19:58
timppanhaines: that's going to be a major show stopper for many...19:58
nhainestimppa: there's a wakeup/notification system service that will be useful for that.  It hasn't landed yet but should soon.19:58
LanDiTO DO: play guitar19:58
rjandrewsQUESTION: When will ubuntu touch come to nexus 519:58
nhainesrjandrews: end of June is the current target, but hardware enablement isn't a priority for anyone.19:59
timppanhaines: Could you tell me more about it?19:59
Akiva-Mobile1Guitar!19:59
slick666w00t20:00
DS_McGuireGuys, did anybody ask about the icons landing in 14.04? If so what did he say?20:00
nhainesDS_McGuire: yes, and he said still no.20:00
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DS_McGuireAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MAN :(20:00
nhainestimppa: well, there's push notifications, that'll be good for online services.20:00
timppanhaines: for example it would be nice to be able to use the spotify client which is available for real..20:00
nhainestimppa: well, the spotify client can use the media playback backend.20:01
nhainesDS_McGuire: I asked and I think it was the first question out of the gate, so you should be able to catch the replay easily.  :)20:01
timppanhaines: so then it would work when the phone is suspended?20:01
nhainestimppa: yup.  The Music core app uses it.20:01
DS_McGuireI will take a look at the replay, thanks :)20:01
timppanhaines: hmm... I thought there was some kind of apparmor profile for it which prevents it from freezing20:02
nhainestimppa: nope!  It was very happy to suspend for a very long time.  I was very, very happy when they got it on the media service. ;)20:02
MattOnMinthow do i turn off joins and parts.. it's been so long since i've been on IRC20:03
nhainesMattOnMint: that's a client preference.20:03
ubuntumanbye20:03
timppanhaines: I really need to do some reading :) Are there a document available for which services are ready to be used as the media service?20:04
MattOnMintoh ok20:04
MattOnMinti guess i missed the live feed20:04
Akiva-Mobile1yahp20:04
MattOnMintBOOOOO20:04
Akiva-Mobile1MattOnMint: what was your question?20:04
nhainestimppa: I don't think so.  :)  But they should be up on developer.ubuntu.com soon.  They're trying to get everything up there but you know, a good solid API is the second hardest part, and documentation is the next hardest part.  ;)20:05
MattOnMintno question.20:05
nhainesMattOnMint: missed it by that much!  But you're exactly right on time for the replay!20:05
MattOnMintcool20:05
timppanhaines: ok20:05
Akiva-Mobile1I thought I should share my experience with the ubuntu touch; After using the developers preview of ubuntu touch on a nook tablet, I became addicted to the interface, and found myself extremely constrained by the android interface.20:06
Akiva-Mobile1Is it possible yet to buy an ubuntu phone?20:06
MattOnMintcan i put ubuntu on my iphone ?20:06
MattOnMintlol20:06
nhainesAkiva-Mobile1: I was just telling mhall119 last week, the point I knew Ubuntu was going to be a hit was when I could spend 15 on Ubuntu, reboot into Android, and then spend the next hour trying to edge-swipe everything.  :)20:07
MattOnMintor an old 3GS..20:07
nhainesAkiva-Mobile1: we expect Ubuntu phones from Meizu and BQ to be available later this year.20:07
nhainesMattOnMint: Look for your phone.  :)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices20:07
Akiva-Mobile1nhaines: Ha! exactly! the edges are amazing!20:07
nhainesAkiva-Mobile1: if I spend longer in Ubuntu then I ruin Android for the rest of the day, but I was really surprised how quickly even a quick few tests made me want to use those gestures.  :)20:08
Akiva-Mobile1nhaines: android in comparison just feels... archaic. Then again, my zeal for it when it was initially released, quickly dissipated...  What I love about ubuntu-touch perhaps the most, is that it includes a terminal built in; I find that so incredibly gratifying.20:10
Akiva-Mobile1my zeal for android* quickly dissapated20:10
Akiva-Mobile1anyways~ thanks again Jono20:11
UuuHello20:34
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Guest94225QUESTION:  About the ubuntu software that comes with ubuntu, there are many apps that are of no use. Does ubuntu plan to clean this up.  I'm on desktop ubuntu 12.4, Tks for your answer21:52
TuxkalleQUESTION:what do you tink about then tings that happend in Ukraine?21:54
nhainesGuest94225: name some of the apps you think are no use?21:55
Guest94225I can't think of any right off, I would think the apps with less than 4 stars on them21:56
Tuxkalle QUESTION what do you tink happend to Malaysian Air MH370 that dissapeard? :-)21:59
Guest94225Signing off: quit22:02
nhainesTuxkalle: you'll have to join in in next week when Jono's live.  )22:03
nhaines:)22:03

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