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diddledannot bad for a mass-appeal science programme. bang goes the theory on the iplayer from today00:15
diddledantoday they were investigating electricity/the national grid00:16
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mappsah yea01:27
mappsi saw some of that earlier01:27
mappshmm02:22
WhoWhat@find Dragonwriter06:39
mapps;]06:49
MooDoomorning all06:56
mappsmorning MooDoo06:57
MartijnVdSjnick_tait: new nickname? :)07:43
jnick_taitMartijnVdS, same as it ever was07:44
MartijnVdSjnick_tait: oh you're not JamesTait?07:46
jnick_taitMartijnVdS, now this is going to be as confusing for you as it was for JamesTait and I... my first name is James but I don't use it at all (other than in my IRC nick)... I'm Nick Tait07:48
* MooDoo did have a head, it's just exploded.07:49
mappscan someone lend me a hand..if i make a startup script for shoutcast - shoutcast located in /home/shoutcast/shoutcast - running 2 cmds sc_serv sc_serv.conf and sc_trans sc_trans.conf ----- when i run the command it's saying unable to open log directory - the log dir is there though07:50
MooDooput your script into pastebin so people can have a look at it.07:51
MartijnVdSmapps: is it owned by the right user?07:51
MartijnVdSmapps: and/or writable by them?07:51
mappshmm07:53
mappsim not sure? i did update-rc.d shoutcast.sh defaults07:54
mappsso what perms would i need on the logs ? what would the script be run as07:54
MartijnVdSmapps: that all depends -- it might drop down to non-root itself (as specified in config file), or it might be started as a specific user by the init script07:54
MartijnVdSor something else completely07:54
mappsthe init script i just wrote the command to launch shoutcast08:00
mappsso im a bit confused :Z08:00
MartijnVdSstrace it, check if it drops privs, then check the real error code when it tries to open the log dir -- also check if that log dir is the dir you think it should be08:07
MartijnVdSstrace has saved me SO often08:07
mappsil have to google it..looks comolicated:)08:10
mappscomplicated08:10
MartijnVdSmapps: strace -f -o outputfile THE_COMMAND08:11
MartijnVdSthen check "outputfile" for things like "uid", and "open" etc.08:11
MartijnVdSit's just a dump of all the system calls the program does08:11
mapps2497  stat64("logs/sc_serv.log", 0xbfad7870) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)08:13
mappshm08:13
MartijnVdSthat's fine -- it's just checking if it's there08:13
MartijnVdSdoesn't mean it can't open it :)08:13
MartijnVdSbut it looks like the path is relative -- you might have to specify an absolute path08:13
mappsnot sure how i can shoutcast just looks for those files when it starts08:13
MartijnVdSmapps: in the config file, probably?08:14
MartijnVdSmapps: command line options, maybe?08:14
MartijnVdSwhat's the current working directory? does it start fine if you do it manually (outside the init script)08:15
mappsif i run the command manually from shoutcast dir it works fine..but my scripts located elsewhere so it fails08:15
mappsso i probably do need to do like you said?08:15
mappsspecify full path to the logs08:15
MartijnVdSmapps: you need to "cd" to the right directory first08:15
MartijnVdSalso, make sure you don't run it as root. Running daemons as root is bad practice these days08:16
mappsduh thanks it was as easy as cd dir and then it's all fixed08:17
mappssilly me08:17
mappsand yea i should switch to user shoutcast to run it..didnt even think about it i manually start it as shoutcast08:17
MartijnVdSmapps: you can use start-stop-daemon for that, or just tell it which user to run as in an upstart script08:18
MartijnVdSupstart scripts++08:18
mappsstill need to read about upstart scripts;)08:32
diploMorning all08:40
MooDoomorning diplo08:40
mappsmorning guys08:42
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Organize Your Home Office Day! :-D08:54
JamesTaitMartijnVdS, this is me.  jnick_tait is a mere imposter. ;)08:55
JamesTaitMartijnVdS, we found out about this unfortunate duplication of names when I received a plane ticket for a trip to Hungary three days later.  Imagine my surprise!08:56
MooDoomorning JamesTait09:04
bashrcI'm still on polar bear day09:06
JamesTaitMooDoo, o/09:06
mapps;]09:09
DJonesWooo-hooo linkedin spam in the mailbox today09:11
MooDoothat's why I closed my linkedin account09:12
DJonesMooDoo: The email address the spam is coming to has never been given to linkedin09:12
DJonesI don't think I've ever been on the website09:13
MooDoosigh eh!09:13
DJonesYep09:15
bashrcit must have had a From address09:16
DJonesIt did, it was from linkedin09:16
bashrcyou could add a procmail rule and send it to /dev/null09:17
DJonesIts just going to a gmail account & ends up in the junk folder anyway09:17
mappsive never used it09:19
bashrcI did have a phase a couple of months ago where I tried using LinkedIn more regularly.  Never got any replies or conversations though, so gave up09:20
MartijnVdSpeople only use linkedin when they need a job09:21
MartijnVdSime09:21
foobarry+109:23
foobarryit's interesting when i see dormant accounts suddenly show signs of activity, i know they are looking to leave the company09:24
bashrcyes that's true09:24
foobarrya bit like sherlock and his rats09:24
diploMy boss followed me, I wish I hadn't accepted now :)09:31
foobarryjust delete him now09:32
foobarryits better to accept and delete after09:32
foobarrywith those awkward situations09:32
diploEspecially as I'm actively looking for a job now09:32
diplo:)09:32
foobarrybecause people never notice you've removed them09:32
MartijnVdSdiplo: you're saying this in a publicly logged place09:33
* foobarry is hiring a scientific programmer. 09:33
diploThey are not clever enough to know this MartijnVdS09:33
diplo+ not knowing my nick09:33
diplo:)09:33
foobarrynot even the NSA read the whole internet09:33
diploand tbh I don't really care :)09:34
* diplo wants to go back to full time sysadmin tbh09:34
foobarryhe'll know when he gets a reference request09:34
diploYep09:34
MooDoowhere you live diplo?09:37
diploNear Bristol09:37
diploWell Bath09:38
MooDooah ok09:38
diploBut most people know where Bristol is :)09:38
foobarrylot of teenagers don't know where the bath is09:38
MooDooyesh I know was going to show you this - http://www.heartinternet.co.uk/careers but it is a long way away lol09:38
diploheh09:38
diploLooks a great job!09:39
foobarryjust remembered my wife slipped a choc brownie in my pocket09:40
diploIf I didn't have kids I've debated moving before09:40
foobarryi know someone who commutes from bath->london 3 days a week09:40
diployeah my friend does, well twice a week09:40
diploHis boss comes from the west coast of wales to london!09:41
diploAnd he drives!09:41
foobarrywow09:41
diploNutter09:41
foobarry:-\09:41
foobarrystays for the week?09:41
diploMy friend does, his boss doesn't09:41
foobarrymadness09:41
foobarryno job is worth that09:42
diploA guy I worked with at my last job drove from Birmingham to Bath everyday for about 4 years09:42
diploEVERY day09:42
diploHe liked it, said it calmed him down after work and he didn't have to spend as much time with his wife09:42
diplo:)09:42
foobarryhe's prob produced more pollution and co2 on just that alone than i'll produce in my life09:42
diploI did bring that up09:42
foobarrymarry in haste, repent at leisure09:43
diploHe's in his mid to late 50's i think09:44
diploSo too late for him :P09:44
foobarrygonna teach my son to be the person that a nice lady would want to marry09:44
directhexor a nice man!09:44
MooDoofoobarry: snap, funny I was discussing this with the wife last night :)09:45
foobarrymy son is a bit obsessed with mario atm09:46
foobarryhe doesn't play the wii much (1hr on sat morning doing a bit of wii bowling or mario kart), but he spends much more talking about it09:47
MooDoominecraft here09:47
foobarryi fear he is a copy of myself09:47
dwatkinsMy nephew did that for a while, foobarry - he would watch playthrough videos of Mario and he knew all the secret passages09:49
dwatkinsHe's randomly start talking about them at the dining table, which was great fun.09:49
MooDooI'm getting a go pro video camera as my kids are growing up far too fast.09:50
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:51
MooDoomorning brobostigon09:52
brobostigonmorning MooDoo09:52
MooDoobrobostigon: how are you matey09:52
brobostigondidnt sleep very well, so tired and half a daze. and you?09:52
foobarrygo pro seem to aggressively market their product as a brandname everyone refers to like hoover, ipod09:53
foobarrydwatkins: is your nephew diagnosed aspie at all?09:53
foobarrymy son exhibits certain traits but not others, he could be just a keen INTJ mathmo type like his dad09:54
diplopopey: Saw you mention syncthing on G+ - how are you getting on with it ?10:03
foobarrybob crow, enemy of london commuters has died10:24
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:27
MooDoomorning bigcalm10:28
bashrcwho was bob crow?10:44
bigcalmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Crow10:44
bashrcah, I think I vaguely remember his name being mentioned somewhere10:47
bashrcprobably we need more unions, and especially more cyberuinions10:47
foobarryhttps://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/435044586524663808/photo/110:48
foobarrybashrc: ^^10:48
MartijnVdSbashrc: as long as they don't end up as stupid as the US unions10:48
foobarryhe had a £145k salary and lived in a council house10:48
bashrceesh10:49
bashrcas with politicians, I think union bosses should be paid the same as the average member10:50
bashrcif their salaries were linked to average earnings then I think we'd see better politics10:50
foobarryi'm sad for his family, i'm not sad for the pointless and dispruptive strikes jsut to get more money for train monkeys10:50
bigcalm!politics10:51
lubotu3Please take political discussion to ##politics-uk. Thank you!10:51
bigcalm;)10:51
foobarrymeow10:53
MooDooanyone used a go pro hero3+ ?10:54
davmor2Morning all11:04
bigcalmMorning davmor211:05
bashrcmorning davmor211:08
MooDoomorning davmor211:08
bashrcanyone ever tried using GPG from within Mutt?11:10
MartijnVdSbashrc: used it for ages11:11
bashrcare there any recommended key combinations?  do I need to install gpg.rc ?11:11
bashrc(using mutt-patched)11:11
MartijnVdSbashrc: gpg.rc? what's that?11:12
MartijnVdSI just had a ~/.gnupg and told mutt to sign outgoing mail with my key id11:12
MartijnVdSthat was all11:12
bashrcwhat are the muttrc commands for that?11:12
bashrcIdeally I'd like to set up a key combination to import public keys sent via email11:14
MartijnVdSbashrc: that already exists I think, by default11:14
MartijnVdSbashrc: just go to the attachment and press enter I think?11:15
bashrchmm. I don't think so11:15
bashrcbut maybe there is some muttrc command to do it11:15
MartijnVdSbashrc: it's probably a mailcap thing then, based on mime type11:16
MartijnVdSbashrc: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#commands11:16
bashrcah11:16
MartijnVdSbashrc: pgp_autosign11:16
bashrcI think autosign is only for outgoing mail11:16
MartijnVdSbashrc: it is, and you want tat.11:17
MartijnVdSbashrc: it'll automatically (try to) decrypt incoming mail when you open it11:17
bashrcIdeally I'd like something such as an autoimport for GPG public keys11:17
MartijnVdSthat's a ~/.gnupg/ config setting, to retrieve unknown keys. But that makes your keyring HUGE, FAST11:17
bashrcmaybe just a mutt key combination then to make importing easy11:18
MartijnVdSbashrc: Make a macro that does something like "| gpg --import"11:19
bashrcindeed11:19
foobarrybigcalm: i like that when you go to ##politics-uk it is just brobostigon sitting in the corner reading a book11:19
bashrc:)11:20
brobostigonyes, it has been quiet for a while.11:20
bashrc(tumbleweeds roll by)11:20
foobarryi heard someone call dogecoin "doje coin"11:22
MooDoobashrc: tumbleweed.popey.com11:23
MartijnVdSfoobarry: that's how you pronounce "Doge", especially if you mean the ruler of Venice kind ;)11:23
foobarrysoundtrack to amelie is the best working music11:23
foobarryMartijnVdS: but the dog kind11:23
bashrcsuch pronounciation. wow11:27
MartijnVdSvery venice11:27
foobarrywhy i am getting so many job applications from norway lately11:59
foobarrysomething i should know?11:59
foobarryis norway closing down?11:59
MartijnVdSNorway is being discontinued.12:00
foobarryare they going to opensource it?12:02
foobarryrelease the code before you shut !12:02
foobarryo365 broke for ipv6 users for 2 days12:05
foobarry"As a work-around to the Outlook client, customers could disable IPV6 on their local machines and try re-establishing connection. "12:05
foobarry2.5 days.12:06
TwistedLucidityAnd productivity increased?12:06
foobarrynot everyone has ipv4 and ipv6.12:06
TwistedLucidityTell me, can o365 handles datetimes? As in, does it know what "2014/01/02 03:04:05 +0100" is or (like Excel) does it just barf?12:07
foobarrywe have o365 but without the office bit LOL12:09
BigRedS_what's the rest of it?12:12
foobarryemail12:12
foobarrywhich works poorly12:12
foobarryits basically hotmail but worse12:13
BigRedS_oh, I did sign up for a outlook.com account but I've not actually started using it yet12:14
BigRedS_what does it get wrong?12:14
foobarryyeah, i bagged the best names x 10 and then promptly forgot12:14
foobarryimap is a massive fail, shared folders massive fail, activesync requires full admin rights on your phone, service breaks *a lot*, reliance upon onsite servers here too(our problem, but double the risk)12:15
foobarrybasically i now have a worse service and the calendar is afwul and won't export to gmail either12:15
MartijnVdSfoobarry: but if you only used Outlook! It would work!12:16
foobarryalso i forwarded a meeting invitation  message the other day to someone (just the plain text) and for some reason it emailed the oringinal 40 recipients with my disparaging remarks12:16
foobarryoutlook ...non e posibile12:17
foobarryhaven't used the windows since early millenium12:17
foobarryexcept for vsphere client12:18
BigRedS_the imap doesn't work? I'm not interested in activesync or pretending it's google12:18
foobarryits really faily12:18
BigRedS_part of the point was to see if being more pretty than Google translated a less crap UX12:19
foobarryevery other message i send via TB, TB cannot save it in sent folder12:19
BigRedS_as in the service goes down a lot?12:19
foobarrythe imap implemenetation is so buggy its almost useless12:19
foobarryalso take 30s+ to send a message12:19
foobarryoften times out with error12:19
BigRedS_that's SMTP, though12:19
foobarryyes, i've never seen it like that before12:20
foobarryalso, cannot do shared folders12:20
foobarryhave to set up multiple accounts12:20
foobarryits just horrid12:20
foobarryif you are exclusively webmail , you'll notice a few features that are missing12:21
foobarrybut it will generally work if you are happy with that12:21
BigRedS_I'm mostly interested in one imap mailbox12:21
BigRedS_with occasional webmail and a calendar12:21
foobarryi've never had imap problems ever...until o36512:21
foobarryyou won't get the calendar into TB12:21
BigRedS_and much as I'd *like* my calendar on my desktop that's not really something that fits with 21st century linux desktop12:21
foobarryor you might for a week or so12:21
foobarrythere is a plugin12:22
BigRedS_I don't use TB and there's nothing much else that does iCal apart from the less good Evolution12:22
foobarrybut its sucky12:22
foobarrywhat will you use for imap? mutt?12:22
BigRedS_claws12:22
foobarrytry it. but you will get the same sucky sent folder problem12:22
BigRedS_well, I use TB sometimes and claws most of the time. But I've mostly given up on doing calendar-on-the-desktop because that's even worse than mail-on-the-desktop these days12:23
davmor2BigRedS_: claws has a calendar plugin12:23
davmor2BigRedS_: it's not pretty but it works12:23
BigRedS_davmor2: yeah, but it can't do "show me the next X weeks" so for the second half of a month it's pretty clunky12:24
foobarrydown to my last 10 cvs12:24
foobarryman this is tiring12:24
davmor2BigRedS_: I did say it's not pretty12:24
BigRedS_davmor2: I'm not arguing :)12:25
foobarrythe o365 webcalendar sucks vs gmail one12:25
foobarryyou want to drag a selection and add an appt between 3-512:25
foobarrybut no.12:25
davmor2BigRedS_: and iirc you just get day week month and year views12:25
foobarryyou have to click new appt and type it in12:25
BigRedS_davmor2: is that the outlook one that does that?12:26
BigRedS_bah, I can't remember the email address *or* the password for this outlook account12:26
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davmor2BigRedS_: ah no sorry I didn't see outlook in there12:27
BigRedSdavmor2: ah yeah, I know the claws one only does those views12:27
BigRedStbird does more, including "the next few weeks" but it's also got a weird obsession with HTML mail and line wrapping12:27
foobarryhttp://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/automate-tasks-in-linux-using-actionaz.html12:58
foobarrynice12:58
mappsboo had to turn my pc off13:00
mappsdont wanna leave it on while im not here;/13:00
foobarrywhere you going?13:01
mappsjust going back to my dads13:01
foobarryat least you can apt-get latest kernels13:02
mappsargh13:03
mappsjust noticed my passport form my counter signature13:03
mappshas put shes known me 5 years..and shes a teacher etc13:03
mappsbut not put how13:03
mappsbollocks13:03
mappsoops sorry my language13:03
dramenCan anyone please help me to fix my grep command?13:03
mappsfix it? whats up13:04
dramenI type grep ch->spl[4] * and basically its stuck ch->spl[4] infront of every search and spams the heck out of me :/13:04
dramen[:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:act_wiz.c:           if ( vch->timer > 0 ) <-- that for example but all over my code13:05
MartijnVdSdramen: the '>' is special in shell, you'll have to escape it. I think [ and ] as well13:05
MartijnVdSdramen: either put the thing you're searchgin for in 'single quotes' or prefix the \"offenders\" with \backslashes13:06
dramenTrouble is how do i escape it :(13:06
bigcalmBack from a house viewing that we instantly want to buy13:09
bigcalmBugger13:09
foobarrygreat13:09
foobarryno?13:09
bigcalmWe've only viewed 3 houses so far13:09
mappsthats good isnt it13:09
bigcalmAnother 2 to view this week13:09
mappsless hassle13:09
bigcalmSure. But it means that we might actually be moving soon13:10
mappsis it warm enough for shorts outside13:10
foobarryno13:10
mappsor will i look like a loon hmm13:10
mappsoh13:10
foobarryvery no13:10
mappsjust sunny then?13:10
foobarrynot even that13:10
bigcalmIt's very sunny and warm in TF10. But I wouldn't go out in short13:11
bigcalms13:11
MartijnVdSit's 15ish degrees here13:11
MartijnVdSand the sun is out!13:11
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bigcalmOne negative is that the house doesn't have virginmedia, but the street does13:12
MartijnVdSweird13:12
bigcalmSo it'd mean digging up the driveway13:12
MartijnVdSor luddite owners?13:12
bigcalmNot weird. The owners didn't want it when it was on offer13:13
bigcalmThey didn't want the drive way dug up13:13
bigcalmThey get 12mb with ADSL. I wonder if it'll be enough for me13:13
bigcalmI'm used to 60mb though...13:13
mappsgah13:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: my neighbor's house is for sale. It has fibre ;)13:14
mappsonly got 15ins till i gotta go13:14
mappstrain at 14;15 first class :DDDD free food..yessssss13:14
bigcalmMartijnVdS: I'm guessing it'll be a little outside the area we're looking ;)13:14
foobarrythe streets got dug up for telewest many years ago13:14
mappswould they have to dig the drive up bigcalm ? i thought thats what they did when we got NTL13:15
mappsyea13:15
foobarryor cable london in my area13:15
mappsif a street doesnt have it it wont get it now i think..the dont do new areas..but if a street has it and your property dont its diff13:15
foobarryshonky quality13:15
mappswe were in the NTL region13:15
mappsblueyonder was north wasnt it?13:15
mappswhere did telewest cover13:15
foobarrythere's water pipes etc gonig to the house, i'm sure they can squeeze a small fibre tube13:15
foobarrythey never dug up our front garden13:16
mappsoh13:16
mappsi thought they did for us13:16
mappscant remember though was like 15 years ago?13:16
foobarrythey dug the road but not the drive/graden13:16
mappsive got a strange feeling they dug our front garden up13:16
MartijnVdSmapps: good thing they didn't find the bodies :)13:16
mapps:D13:17
mappsurgh i had like 3 hours sleep13:17
foobarrythey are in the back13:17
mappsnow its a 30min walk13:17
mapps1hr30 train then underground then a wait for a lift13:17
MartijnVdSyou're going on a train to end up on a lift?!13:18
foobarrynice https://github.com/np1/mps-youtube13:18
mappswait for a lift home;p13:19
mappsa drive then13:19
mappsheh13:19
mappsback in a bit!13:24
dramen[13:05] <MartijnVdS> dramen: the '>' is special in shell, you'll have to escape it. I think [ and ] as well <-- id ont get how to escape this :(13:31
MartijnVdSdramen: read my next line :)13:31
MartijnVdSdramen: either put the entire thing in quotes ('like this') or put a "\" before every special character (like-\>this)13:32
dramenI understand that for further greps to find the special characters the problem is atm is i type grep spell * i still get the spl[4]:act_wiz.c problem13:33
dramenThis is what i mean (apologies for the spam)13:34
dramen   spell_remove_curse( skill_lookup( "remove curse" ), ch->level, ch, ch ); spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[4]:spl[413:34
bigcalmo.O13:35
foobarrydid you reset your terminal13:35
foobarryopen a new one13:35
dramenI rebooted the entire machine >.<13:35
foobarrydo a pastebin of the entire stuff you are typing in13:35
foobarryfrom a fresh terminal13:35
dramenFresh terminal and i type this13:36
dramengrep spell *13:36
foobarrypaste it into pastbin13:36
dramenThats all i am typing13:36
foobarryls13:36
foobarrywhat's in the dir13:36
dramenoooo now we are getting somewhere13:36
dramen [           act_move.c  board.h      comm.c   desc_map.c  interp.c     magic.c    obj        spl[4] [4]         act_obj.c   changes.c    const.c  fight.c     kav_fight.c  Makefile   olc.c      startup [4}         act_wiz.c   clan.c       core.c   godwars     kav_info.c   merc.h     rot_wiz.c  string.c act_comm.c  bit.c       clan.c.save  db.c     handler.c   kav_wiz.c    more.c     save.c     update.c act_info.c  board.c     colordef13:37
foobarryyeah13:37
foobarrywanna remove those13:37
dramenwill do and let you know what happens, ty foobarry :)13:37
foobarrynp13:37
foobarrybe careful removing them13:38
foobarrymaybe from a gui13:38
dramenIts not was all me, thank-you SO much fooBarry!13:38
dramenAll fixed now and really appreciate it as it was driving me crazy!13:38
foobarryno prob. just need to be methodical about what is happening, usually fixes the issue13:39
dramenOr not be stupid in the first place ;)13:39
MartijnVdSthat helps :P13:42
dramenhee hee but at least i have learnt something now and i knwo how to avoid the problem in the firs tplace and how to repair it in the second place if i do mess up :) thanks guys13:43
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bigcalmAnybody here got BT Infinity?14:25
davmor2bigcalm: why you thinking about changing ?14:27
BigRedSbigcalm: I do14:28
bigcalmdavmor2: not if I can help it. I want to stick with VM. But the house we looked at today doesn't have VM to the house (though it is in the street)14:28
bigcalmBigRedS: what's your impression of it? Do you have your TV via BT as well?14:29
davmor2if it is in the street then you would just need to pay the moving fee of how ever much iirc and all your numbers etc move with you :)14:29
bigcalmdavmor2: it would mean having the drive dug up as well14:31
BigRedSbigcalm: seems pretty good14:31
BigRedSnah, no telly14:31
BigRedSwe've had no issues since we got it but I can't remember when that was14:31
davmor2bigcalm: yeah but that is at there cost :)14:31
bigcalmI need to be online instantly. I guess my phone would make do until whatever is in place14:32
bigcalmBy moving, we will lose our mates rates, so looking at what else is out there is wise14:32
bigcalmdavmor2: s/there/their/ ?14:32
davmor2bigcalm: you understood what I meant :P14:33
bigcalmAre you sure about that? I haven't found their documentation for it yet. Closest I've come is http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Up-to-30Mb-Setup-Equipment/Want-Cable-been-told-it-s-not-available-We-might-be-able-to-help/td-p/20585 - but all of the links are dead14:33
directhexi'm on infinity14:34
bigcalmWhat speeds are you getting?14:34
directhexum... 76/16 or thereabouts14:35
bigcalmNoticed your IP change much?14:36
directhexno14:36
bigcalm(I'm assuming that it's dynamic allocation)14:36
bigcalmI wonder which major ISP will roll out IPv6 1st14:36
directhexTesting download speed........................................14:39
directhexDownload: 67.39 Mbit/s14:39
directhexTesting upload speed..................................................14:39
directhexUpload: 17.47 Mbit/s14:39
bigcalmNice14:39
davmor2bigcalm: http://store.virginmedia.com/special-offers/Movers.html?buspart=DM_23614:47
bigcalmdavmor2: ta, but it doesn't say anything about digging up driveways :)14:50
davmor2bigcalm: get in touch with them and see then :P14:53
bigcalmI want to get back to our IFA and see what mortgage we can get.14:55
bigcalmGetting restless now14:55
davmor2In my head right now is a song the words oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh-lllllllllaaaaaaaaa15:00
davmor2MooDoo, MartijnVdS: The chances of anything coming from mars......15:01
philwyettbigcalm: If you switch to fibre with someone like BT. You would most likely get fibre to the cabinet and the connection brought in on the normal phone. Fibre with out the digging up of your drive.15:02
bigcalmphilwyett: indeed15:06
roothy15:17
roothello15:18
foobarrydavmor2: drinking in LA?15:21
davmor2foobarry: no I'm in wolverhampton15:22
foobarrydavmor2> In my head right now is a song the words oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh-lllllllllaaaaaaaaa15:22
davmor2foobarry: no the other line in there is "The chances of anything coming from mars are a million to one they said"15:24
foobarry bran van 3000 - Drinkin in LA15:35
foobarrynow playing on mps-youtube15:35
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DJonesHeh, have to laugh at this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-2652514918:11
mappsyo19:14
mappsim back19:14
mappsnow i have the choice of FTC or Virgin:D19:14
mappsback at home 6mbit crappy dsl only..so unfair19:15
* zenpho waves hi19:54
SindbadHi anyone knows how I can order a system76 laptop in UK?19:56
zenphoalas i don't sorry Sindbad19:58
zenphosomeone else might i hope19:58
daftykinshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214001719:59
daftykins"System76 in UK"20:00
daftykinsDJones: makes you wonder doesn't it ;)20:04
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sebsebseb 21:33
* zenpho gotta go - g'night all!23:00

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