[00:14] <mhall119> hello?
[00:15] <mhall119> anybody around for a meeting?
[00:16] <Michelle_> Hey y'all
[00:16] <mhall119> bauric1: balloons Bryanstein DammitJim danstoner ejv keen maxh munz Nothing_Much roaksoax_ ShawnR zoopster zoose meeting time
[00:17] <Michelle_> meeting time, woo hoo!
[00:17]  * mhall119 waits to see who's paying attention
[00:19] <mhall119> anybody? anybody? Bueller?
[00:20] <Michelle_> Motion carries?
[00:22] <Nothing_Much> mhall119: what's going on?
[00:22] <Nothing_Much> do I need a webcam or something?!
[00:23] <balloons> yummu
[00:23] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: no, just IRC
[00:23] <balloons> late dinner for me :-)
[00:23] <mhall119> hey balloons 
[00:24] <mhall119> alright, I'll go ahead and kick this off, but we'll probably end up takingit all to the mailinglist 
[00:24] <mhall119> #startmeeting
[00:24] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 11 00:24:33 2014 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[00:24] <mhall119> #chair mhall119
[00:24] <meetingology> Current chairs: mhall119
[00:25] <Michelle_> oh, I should pay attention.
[00:25] <mhall119> #topic Ubuntu 14.04 Release Party
[00:25] <mhall119> so we're just over a month away from the release of Ubuntu 14.04 \o/
[00:25] <mhall119> we haven't had a release party in years
[00:25] <Nothing_Much> woo!
[00:25] <Michelle_> ::cough:: and Qimo ::cough::
[00:25] <mhall119> it's time to fix that
[00:26] <mhall119> we were thinking about finding a space in Orlando to host a proper, team-wide party
[00:26] <Nothing_Much> Orlando sounds nice
[00:27] <Michelle_> I'd like to try and get a rough estimate of how many we might actually have show up for a party
[00:27] <Michelle_> supposing we host in orlando somewhere.
[00:29] <Michelle_> release day is April 17th, and so I'm looking at a release party either April 19th, or the 26th
[00:29] <Nothing_Much> This is gonna be a fairly big release, so I'm enthusiastic
[00:29] <mhall119> I'm going to bring my Nexus 4 and 2012 Nexus 7 with Ubuntu on both if people want to try them out first-hand
[00:29] <Nothing_Much> I think maybe the 26th would be good (for me at least, unsure about anybody else)
[00:29] <Michelle_> we're also hoping to debut at least a beta of Qimo 3.0, as well. 
[00:29] <mhall119> that too
[00:30] <Michelle_> I'm also inclined to go with the 26th, out of personal preference.
[00:30] <balloons> I would show up, provided it's not further away than Orlando, should be easy. I'll note I would rather see it in a smaller city on the coast, but I'm not an Orlando fan, so :-)
[00:30] <mhall119> #subtopic Qimo 3.0 is going to happen, based on Ubuntu 14.04
[00:30] <mhall119> balloons: I'm not either, but it's a pretty central place
[00:30] <balloons> yes, can't argue much with that
[00:30] <mhall119> Tampa is further for itnet7
[00:31] <mhall119> I'm not sure it makes a difference to the Miami guys
[00:31] <balloons> I mean like jupiter fl or melbourne or something
[00:31] <mhall119> that's quite a bit further for you though isn't it?
[00:31] <balloons> which is technically farther for me yes
[00:31] <mhall119> and you'd have to go through Orlando to get there
[00:32] <balloons> I can avoid it :-) but anyways
[00:32] <Michelle_> balloons: maybe we can move things around the state for the next party. 
[00:32] <balloons> 19th or 26th I think works.. let me verify
[00:32] <mhall119> balloons: would the Kissimmee area be easier for you?
[00:32] <Michelle_> mhall119: I was leaning more Kissimmee-area than DT Orlando. 
[00:32] <Michelle_> probably going to be easier to find hosting space.
[00:32]  * mhall119 would prefer that
[00:33] <balloons> as far as easier? Probably Deland is the easiest suburb of Orlando for me
[00:33] <balloons> everything else is probably the same.. I would be coming from the NW
[00:34] <balloons> the host however gets to decide :-) One of the nice things about coordinating
[00:34] <Michelle_> Deland might be a reasonable option too.  I'll look around and see what I can find - considering the time crunch.
[00:34] <Nothing_Much> oh goodness, Kissimmee is an hour away from Deltona
[00:34] <Michelle_> Nothing_Much: Doable, or no?
[00:34] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: yeah, but only like 30 miles :)
[00:35] <mhall119> it's going through Orlando in I4 that takes so long
[00:35] <Nothing_Much> not where I'm from, to kissimmee is 53.9 miles
[00:35] <Nothing_Much> away
[00:36] <mhall119> ok, we'll start looking for venue options
[00:36] <mhall119> and email the team with what we find
[00:36] <Michelle_> I'll send out some options when I have some on hand.
[00:36] <Nothing_Much> so not very doable for me if it takes an hour for that
[00:36] <Nothing_Much> an hour to get there*
[00:36] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: but east-side of Orlando would be do-able for you?
[00:36] <mhall119> Deland area?
[00:36] <Michelle_> Can we get a poll set up, mhall119 ?
[00:37] <Michelle_> survey monkey or something?
[00:37] <mhall119> yeah, as long as people respond quickly
[00:37] <Michelle_> Can you make that a todo?
[00:37] <mhall119> sure, what cities do we want on there?
[00:37] <Nothing_Much> Deland would be best for me, takes me about 15-20 min to get there
[00:38] <Nothing_Much> but orlando would be good too, looks like 36 minutes
[00:38] <Michelle_> I'll focus on the Deland/east Orlando area, and see what I can come up with.
[00:38] <mhall119> ok
[00:39] <mhall119> any other questions/suggestions on release party?
[00:39] <Michelle_> wish govatent was here tonight. 
[00:39] <mhall119> me too, and itnet7
[00:39] <mhall119> but I'll email the list so they see
[00:39] <Michelle_> OK, so watch your mailing list, folks. 
[00:39] <mhall119> aside from me bringing a phone and tablet running Ubuntu, anything we should plan on *doing* during the event?
[00:40] <Michelle_> eat?
[00:40] <Michelle_> priorities, you know
[00:40] <balloons> eat is a given of course :-)
[00:41] <balloons> depends if folks want something like informal talks? or perhaps games are more fun?
[00:41] <Michelle_> heh, game night.  ;) 
[00:41] <mhall119> do we want a venue where we can buy food, or one where we can bring in pizzas or something?
[00:41] <Michelle_> mhall119: depends on what I can get for community funding.  I'd rather bring in, if possible.
[00:42] <Michelle_> Puts less stress on budgets for folks.
[00:43] <Michelle_> The other alternative would be to have people meet in Orlando and carpool into our house, mhall119, and host here.
[00:43] <mhall119> ok, I'm going to setup an event without a venue for now, so we cna see how many people want to attend
[00:44] <balloons> panera lets you book private rooms for free I believe, could be an option. Not sure what other types of places you were thinking
[00:45] <Michelle_> balloons: yeah, they're on my list to look at.  
[00:45] <Michelle_> ok, mhall119, let's start with this, and go from there.
[00:46] <mhall119> alright, here's the event: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/2737-ubuntu-1404-release-party/
[00:46] <Nothing_Much> what game?
[00:46] <Nothing_Much> o.o
[00:46] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: something child-friendly, I have a fun card game though
[00:46] <mhall119> balloons: I've got that "We didn't play test this at all" game that popey had at our sprint
[00:46] <Nothing_Much> oh I thought you meant a sorta cross platform game
[00:46] <Nothing_Much> because I have the perfect one
[00:46] <Nothing_Much> which is really good for LAN games
[00:46] <Michelle_> which one, Nothing_Much ?
[00:47] <Nothing_Much> Bitfighter, cross platform and Linux friendly
[00:47] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: getting a working LAN at a venue might be too difficult
[00:47] <Nothing_Much> and child friendly
[00:47] <Nothing_Much> oh okay
[00:47] <Michelle_> If I can swing it, I wouldn't be opposed, but it'll depend on getting a LAN.
[00:47] <balloons> mhall119, that could be quite fun. I have some german style board games, and some more interesting stuff as well. I think I'd rather keep it light, cards games, etc
[00:48] <Nothing_Much> ohh, physical games was what you were talking about
[00:48] <Nothing_Much> my bad
[00:48] <mhall119> yeah, there's not even a guarantee we'll have power outlets, depending on the venue
[00:48] <Michelle_> mhall119: I can get "We didn't play test this either" to go with it, too.
[00:49] <mhall119> ok, I'll email the list with the location options and the link to the event page
[00:49] <Nothing_Much> don't libraries have computers though?
[00:49] <mhall119> if you guys can all register at http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/2737-ubuntu-1404-release-party/ so we can start getting an idea of how many people we need to accomodate
[00:49] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: yeah, but what we cna do with them is going to be restricted
[00:49] <mhall119> when we've had meetups at libraries before, we got a separate room without computers
[00:50] <mhall119> you can invite/bring along people from outside the team too
[00:50] <mhall119> anybody who might be interested in attending an Ubuntu release party
[00:50] <balloons> I don't have a gaming capable laptop, plus it's nice to be off the pc :-)
[00:50] <Nothing_Much> There's a portable release you can put on a USB drive on Windows and I *think* Linux as well
[00:51] <Michelle_> Let's sort that out when we get some sort of idea of venue, and go from there.  :) 
[00:51] <Nothing_Much> mhall119: How do I say that I'm attending?
[00:51] <Nothing_Much> Michelle_: sure
[00:51] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: there should be a "Register" button on the right side of the page
[00:52] <Nothing_Much> ah I see it
[00:53] <mhall119> ok, anything more on the topic of release parties?
[00:53] <Nothing_Much> enthusiasm!
[00:54] <mhall119> +1 :)
[00:54] <mhall119> #topic App Developer Schools
[00:54] <mhall119> so we at Canonical have been working hard to build up our app development platform
[00:54] <mhall119> part of that is teaching how to write apps for Ubuntu phone and desktop
[00:55] <mhall119> we've created a "course" that can be taught either in person or online, and if anybody on the team is interested I'd be happy to lead one for us
[00:55] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2677/ has information about what it is
[00:56] <mhall119> since it can be done online, I can do it anytime people are available, we don't need a physical meetup
[00:56] <mhall119> I might even be able to talk balloons into teaching how to write tests for apps :)
[00:56] <Nothing_Much> whoa, cool
[00:57] <Nothing_Much> though I'm not a developer so I can't really teach that kind of stuff
[00:58] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: I would be the one teaching
[00:58] <mhall119> if there is interest from anyone in the team in learning it
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> oh!
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> what kind of development stuff is it? does it work well for newbies wanting to program or do you have to have some sort of experience?
[01:00] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: it should be newbie friendly
[01:00] <mhall119> if it's not, our course material needs to be improved :)
[01:00] <mhall119> part of this would be me test-driving the material before we get other loco teams to start using it
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> is that during the party or a course during the summer?
[01:01] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: separate from the party
[01:01] <mhall119> it would be a one-day thing, maybe a couple of hours at most
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> ohh, okay so that means it's once per year or is that like a test run to see how well it catches on or something?
[01:02] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: it can be anytime, as many times as people want
[01:02] <balloons> I imagine we could run it again, but I'm guessing you want to do it once this cycle and see how it goes?
[01:03] <mhall119> yeah, ultimately we want to get a lot of instructors all over the world working with this material
[01:03] <mhall119> but for our team, specifically, I can run one as often as there's a desire for one
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> I'm looking at the slideshow, looks like I need an Ubuntu Phone..
[01:04] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: you don't necessarily, apps will run on the Ubuntu desktop, and we have a phone emulator too
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> oh right
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> duh
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> lol
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> so the goal is to get schools to pick this up?
[01:05] <mhall119> no, just local enthusiasts
[01:06] <Nothing_Much> ohh, sorry about the confusion
[01:06] <mhall119> it's okay
[01:06] <mhall119> we can discuss this more on the mailing list
[01:07] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: you should join this team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida
[01:07] <mhall119> that way you get those emails
[01:07] <mhall119> #action mhall119 to email the team list about the release party and app dev schools
[01:07] <meetingology> ACTION: mhall119 to email the team list about the release party and app dev schools
[01:07] <mhall119> #topic open mic
[01:08] <mhall119> anything else anybody would like to talk about in this meeting?
[01:08] <Michelle_> let's go ahead and get the next meeting scheduled.
[01:08] <mhall119> oh, good idea
[01:09] <mhall119> April 7th is the first monday on April
[01:09] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/757/detail/
[01:09] <Michelle_> let's plan on that first monday, with a repeat meeting if necessary before the party.
[01:10] <mhall119> remember, anybody can add agenda items to the meeting schedule, you just have to log in and you'll see the "Add Agenda Item" button
[01:11] <Michelle_> Alright, that's all on my list mhall119 
[01:13] <balloons> I'm excited about the release party, should be fun
[01:14] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[01:14] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 11 01:14:05 2014 UTC.  
[01:14] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-fl/2014/ubuntu-us-fl.2014-03-11-00.24.moin.txt
[01:14] <mhall119> balloons: indeed, we haven't had a meetup in a long time
[01:14] <Michelle_> woo!
[01:15] <balloons> night everyone
[01:15] <Nothing_Much> good night!
[01:15] <Nothing_Much> I'm hoping I can make it
[01:15] <Nothing_Much> so first we need to figure out where the party's gonna be hosted right?
[01:17] <Michelle_> Yep, I'll email the mailing list, so make sure you're signed up for that.
[01:17] <Nothing_Much> I need to figure out how mailing lists work..
[01:18] <Nothing_Much> But I logged in
[01:19] <Nothing_Much> to the launchpad thing
[01:19] <Michelle_> mhall119: can you help Nothing_Much get signed up?
[01:19] <Michelle_> <--ignoramus here.
[01:20] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: if you join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida it should add you to the mailing list automatically
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> I joined that
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> okay so basically I just get messages from those?
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> how do I send messages?
[01:24] <Nothing_Much> through the email?
[01:26] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: ah, my mistake, it's not via launchpad it's https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-fl
[01:27] <mhall119> you can subscribe to the mailing list there
[01:29] <Nothing_Much> oh okay
[01:36] <Michelle_> Alright, I'm out, yo.  Everyone have a good night, and I'll touch base with everyone once we've got party details a little closer to hammered out.  
[01:36] <Michelle_> And if you don't already, go ahead and like the team's Facebook page, too, as I keep it updated as best I can.  https://www.facebook.com/ubuntuflorida
[02:14] <itnet7> mhall119: hey there!
[02:14]  * balloons waves to itnet7 
[02:14] <itnet7> Hey balloons ! How are you?
[02:15] <balloons> cleaning the house atm, just dropped by the pc to check something and saw your arrival :-)
[02:15] <itnet7> sweet
[02:15] <balloons> anyways, I hope you can come to the release party, it would be nice to see you again
[02:16] <itnet7> I am for sure going to do my best to be there
[02:16] <balloons> excellent, with that, back to cleaning for me
[02:16] <itnet7> Take care!
[02:17] <itnet7> Well I'll be back later 
[12:33] <DammitJim> man, next time I should put my irc on bbl
[12:33] <DammitJim> looks like there was a productive meeting last night
[18:44] <DammitJim> what does one call a server that sits between production and test
[18:44] <DammitJim> its purpose is to hold files that are moved from one environment to it and then fetched by the other
[18:44] <DammitJim> I guess it's like a staging server
[18:47] <DammitJim> Acheron
[19:56] <mhall119> DammitJim: staging is what I usually call it
[19:57] <mhall119> or "production-like environment"
[20:36] <DammitJim> I ended up calling it Charon
[20:36] <DammitJim> I was just informed that this server won't hold any files, but will be the one moving stuff from one machine to another
[20:36] <DammitJim> Charon was the guy that took people from one side to the other of the river in the underworld :D
[21:09] <mhall119> heh, I like it