[00:36] <mathomastech> Anyone here ever use python freeze?
[00:37] <rick_h_> pip freeze?
[00:37] <mathomastech> yep
[00:37] <rick_h_> yep
[00:37] <mathomastech> Cool. I copied the file into my project directory and ran "python freeze.py main.py" as for the wiki's instructions and nothing happens.
[00:38] <rick_h_> oh that's different than pip freeze
[00:39] <mathomastech> really? It was in the /site-packages/pip/commands/freeze.py folder.
[00:39] <rick_h_> huh?
[00:39] <rick_h_> ok so you just activate your virtualenv and run 'pip freeze'
[00:40] <rick_h_> and it outputs all the installed stuff
[00:40] <mathomastech> I don't have this running in virtualenv.
[00:40] <rick_h_> ok, so then it'll pull every dep from your system
[00:42] <mathomastech> I just ran "pip freeze main.py" and the console output the external API's I am using (mysql-connector, pygobject, etc). But no executable files.
[00:43] <rick_h_> huh? pip freeze just dumps out pip installed deps in a python environment
[00:43] <rick_h_> you don't pass it another .py file
[00:43] <mathomastech> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Freeze
[00:43] <mathomastech> So is that, and what we are talking about 2 different things?
[00:44] <rick_h_> yes, two different things
[00:44] <mathomastech> Ok, have you ever use THAT freeze?  :P
[00:44] <rick_h_> nope
[03:50] <mathomastech> well, been at it for about 4 hours now trying to figure out how to pack up my program in a windows executable. Tried py2exe, cx-freeze, and pyinstaller with absolutely no success. What am I missing?
[12:47] <rick_h_> must resist urge....someone on the internet is WRONG! GAHHHH!
[13:06] <rick_h_> and morning
[13:24] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:24] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Who is wrong this morning?
[13:24] <DrDaemonEye> morning cmaloney
[13:24] <cmaloney> Besides over half the Internet?
[13:24] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/dwiskus/status/443267270505005056
[13:24] <rick_h_> cmaloney: ^
[13:25] <DrDaemonEye> probably the same person that says that all open source software just contains a virus and then proceeds to explain why firefox is better than Internet Explorer.
[13:25] <rick_h_> besides the mass, the people loading and unloading the plane, the conveyer systesm, the baggage pickup, the issues with scanning/safety checking it all...
[13:26] <cmaloney> Um...
[13:26] <rick_h_> yea, checking bags is totally what should be free :/
[13:27] <cmaloney> Honestly if they could figure out how to send your bags via some other plane (cargo or otherwise) they'd do it in a hearbeat
[13:28] <cmaloney> Your carry-on is the least of their worries. Making sure everything else matches the best logistics plan is key
[13:28] <cmaloney> They'd probably charge you by the pound to fly if people wouldn't get up-in-arms about being weighed.
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> imagine the market for pre-flight diets, though
[15:05] <greg-g> they do that in the pacific islands
[15:05] <greg-g> charge more for heavier people
[15:06] <jrwren> charge per pound would be awesome.
[15:10] <mrgoodcat> it would be good incentive to stay in shape
[15:11] <mrgoodcat> i'd work out if my texas flight at the end of the month was cheaper
[15:11] <greg-g> also, then my kids' seat would be cheaper...
[15:13] <mrgoodcat> aren't kids already cheaper on some airlines?
[15:13] <jrwren> women would be cheaper than men.
[15:13] <jrwren> and there are more women than men
[15:13] <mrgoodcat> there would have to be some minimum price too because even the skinniest people still take up a whole seat
[15:15] <jrwren> so price per pound would have to be high for all those light women.
[15:15] <jrwren> meaning price for men would be $$$$
[15:15] <jrwren> and price for overweight men would be $$$$$$$
[15:17] <mrgoodcat> i think you're overthinking it. you have a 500$ base rate for the seat. then you add a weight penalty that rises logarithmically
[15:17] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: no, same seat, same price. Unless you mean 'lap kids' who are literally just on your lap (and that's only allowed until 2 years old)
[15:44] <DrDaemonEye> mrgoodcat: would there be a base weight to go with for that weight penalty?
[15:44] <greg-g> assume so
[15:44] <greg-g> $X for the first 170lbs
[15:45] <DrDaemonEye> I'd say base it off BMI...
[15:47] <DrDaemonEye> As a 6 foot male is probably going to be over 170.
[15:47] <mrgoodcat> would someone please mention my nick so i can make sure my hilight is working?
[15:47] <DrDaemonEye> mrgoodcat:
[15:47] <mrgoodcat> perfect ty
[15:47] <DrDaemonEye> not a problem
[17:14] <brousch> rick_h_: TIL Portland has the most breweries per capita in the USA. Another +1
[17:14] <cmaloney> brousch: Would you knock it off. :)
[17:15] <cmaloney> I'm already trying to keep rick_h_ from duck-taping himself to the next plane out.
[17:15] <cmaloney> Not. Helping.
[17:19] <brousch> It's nice in GR today. Too bad 5-8" of snow is coming tonight
[17:19] <cmaloney> Yeha, no kidding
[17:19] <brousch> Portland: cloudy and 63F tomorrow. Perfect
[17:20] <rick_h_> yea, 8-12 here. But for the moment have the windows open and the whole house fan on
[17:20] <rick_h_> fresh air!
[18:12] <jrwren> i don't want a base weight. I want per pound pricing :p
[18:55] <mrgoodcat> i have a python project noeww
[18:55] <mrgoodcat> its mostly useless but it's letting me explore python a little more in depth than project euler did
[18:56] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: cool
[18:56] <mrgoodcat> i particularly like the way decorators work
[19:20] <mathomastech> I've got this old (8yr old) macbook just gathering dust. I'm thinking about giving it a grand farewell before sending it in for recycling. Perhaps a little sudo rm -rf *.
[19:22] <jrwren> 8yr old? is that G4 still?
[19:23] <mathomastech> Nope, first generation intel Macbook (black model)
[19:23] <mathomastech> actually, it's 7 years old. I have trouble with math sometimes :S
[19:23] <mathomastech> 2007
[19:24] <mrgoodcat> you can think of better than rm -rf can't you
[19:24] <mrgoodcat> chmod -x /bin/chmod
[19:24] <jrwren> that is still a core2duo isn't it? is it really that slow by todays standards?
[19:25] <mrgoodcat> sudo chmod -R -x /
[19:25] <greg-g> my main personal laptop is a core2duo
[19:25] <mathomastech> It is a core2duo. Actually, it's still useful in terms of speed. However the trackpad is on the fritz, the battery is down to about 30-45 minutes (surprising good for a battery that old). And it randomly shuts down with no warning. It's lived a hard life.
[19:25] <greg-g> (the x200s)
[19:26] <mathomastech> I upgraded to the 2013 haswell 13 macbook air last year so I really don't have a use for this one anymore.
[19:26] <jrwren> yes, that is very old for a laptop battery
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> sudo chown -R root:root / && sudo chmod -R -rwx /
[19:29] <cmaloney> Send it to me if you really want. ;)
[19:30]  * cmaloney has a computer museum.
[19:30] <brousch1> Do not feed his addiction
[19:30] <cmaloney> feeeeed me Seymour.
[19:30] <mathomastech> cmaloney: Heh, I do to. I am trying to downsize my museum.
[19:31] <mathomastech> I also have an old all-in-on mac from I believe the 80's. pre-color monitor era.
[19:31] <cmaloney> Fat Mac or SE/30?
[19:31] <mathomastech> Let me check. brb
[19:32] <cmaloney> Likely a SE30. That was one of the more popular models.
[19:33] <jrwren> i threw a lisa into a dumpster
[19:33] <cmaloney> jrwren: WHAT?!?!?!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!
[19:33] <cmaloney> I hope that was just to get my attention
[19:33] <jrwren> as recently as 12yrs ago
[19:33] <jrwren> yes, it was just to get your attention
[19:34] <cmaloney> jrwren: Still: That hurts.
[19:34] <jrwren> 12yrs ago at OU, the CSE unix admin found a dozen or so Lisa in a closet.
[19:34] <jrwren> someone just stored them, and left them for a decade
[19:34] <cmaloney> fuuuuuuck
[19:34] <jrwren> they ran too.
[19:34] <jrwren> he plugged it in and turned it on and it booted
[19:34] <cmaloney> That's like one of my holy grails
[19:34] <jrwren> i figured
[19:34] <cmaloney> Triggy?
[19:34] <cmaloney> Twiggy drives, rather?
[19:35] <jrwren> i've no idea.
[19:35] <jrwren> I think it was floppy boot.
[19:35] <cmaloney> Were they beige?
[19:35] <jrwren> the drives were only the lisa built in IIRC
[19:35] <jrwren> boxes of floppies along side the lisas
[19:35] <cmaloney> Yeah, but there were two models
[19:35] <cmaloney> the Twiggy (short lived) and the 3 1/2"
[19:36] <cmaloney> Twiggy was a strange 5 1/4" drive
[19:36] <cmaloney> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Fileware-floppy.jpg
[19:36] <jrwren> i think it was the 5 1/4", but 12 yrs ago, my memory is not so good.
[19:37] <jrwren> i know what a 5 1/4" looks like.
[19:37] <jrwren> i still have drives and disks
[19:37] <mathomastech> Ok, I've got a Macintosh IIci, and a Macintosh 128k in my basement. There's one more at my parents house that is a late 80's model. One of the earliest computers to use CD's and has a color screen. Can't remember the model name of that one.
[19:37] <jrwren> with some of my first basic code on them from when I was a kid.
[19:37] <cmaloney> jrwren: I figured you knew waht the 5 1/4" was. Just wasn't sure if you'd seen the Twiggy variant.
[19:38] <cmaloney> God, I think you committed genocide. ;)
[19:38] <cmaloney> mathomastech: Nice!
[19:38] <cmaloney> IIci was a nice machine.
[19:39] <cmaloney> underpowered, but that was pretty much par for most Macs
[19:40] <mathomastech> As far as I know, all three of them still work. Haven't plugged in the 128k in a long time though. I think I played around with the ci and the one at my parents about 3 or 4 years ago and they still worked.
[19:41] <cmaloney> mathomastech: So, when are you coming back to Michigan? :)
[19:43] <mathomastech> No plans unfortunately. I do have some cousins in Ann Arbor but they generally travel back to the chicago area where both our families are from for the holidays. I wouln't mind come out at some point. The coffee house coders group I started out here has been pretty slow to start. There is usually just 2 of us, every once in a while a 3rd person that comes.
[19:45] <akelling> MUG meeting is tonight correct?
[19:45] <mathomastech> It seems most of the tech jobs are up in the twin cities, or down in Rochester. We are smack in the middle of the 2. Both those locations have really good active tech group. I guess since there aren't as many tech jobs here in Northfield, there aren't as many people in the profession living here. Still trying to get people from the 2 colleges to come though.
[19:46] <cmaloney> akelling: Yep
[19:47] <akelling> cool
[20:05] <cmaloney> mathomastech: Sometimes it just takes time
[22:14] <mrgoodcat> did we netsplit?
[22:22] <akelling> man this cough needs to go away
[22:23] <akelling> was going to go to the meeting tonight but I dont want to be that coughing all night long
[22:43] <cmaloney> akelling: Ugh. Hope you feel better soon
[22:45] <akelling> ah its just the weather
[22:45] <akelling> thanks though cmaloney