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cortexA9hello07:13
cortexA9I wanna report an issue with the sleep mode on KDE 4.12.3. It doesn't work correctly and freeze my system after i turned on.07:15
jussicortexA9: bugs.kde.org is your best chance to get something sorted :)07:18
shadeslayergood morning07:19
yofelmoin07:19
jussimorning shadeslayer, yofel07:20
jussishadeslayer: seen my ping elsewhere? 07:20
shadeslayerjust got into the office, give me a moment ;)07:20
jussishadeslayer: take your time, grab a coffee or irn bru or whatever :)07:21
cortexA9jussi: i don't know if it's a KDE issue or Kubuntu..07:21
shadeslayerjussi: already had 2 on the way in07:21
shadeslayer2 coffee's that is07:21
shadeslayerwaiting for Riddell to move here so he can import Irn Bru07:21
shadeslayerjussi: #10 ConferenceAuthOp::onPasswordProvided (this=0x9c6ae0, watcher=<optimized out>) at /build/buildd/ktp-auth-handler-0.7.80/conference-auth-op.cpp:10507:22
shadeslayersomething to do with conference stuff is my guess07:22
shadeslayerd_ed will probably know more, I haven't touched ktp code in ages07:22
shadeslayeryofel: I've been deliberating on a node.js app that will allow you to build your own CD, powered by live build as the backend07:24
shadeslayerown ubuntu CD that is07:24
shadeslayerpowered by a JSON config07:24
yofelcould be cool, do we have proper ubuntu-live-build docs yet?07:24
shadeslayeras long as cj is around, who needs docs07:25
yofelhehe07:25
shadeslayerthe docs lie anyway07:25
shadeslayerfor it is the way of documentation ;)07:25
shadeslayervalorie: plz be leaving comments on card https://trello.com/c/aR2V1zm707:27
shadeslayeryofel: what would be cooler is if it was offered as a IAS :P07:29
jmuxAfter updating my Qt fixes with an improved test case, I'm comming back to the kubuntu-backports Precise udisks2 (USN-2142-1) and a long standing kmix bug (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181652).07:29
jussishadeslayer: first thing: Irn Bru is now available in Finland :D07:29
ubottuKDE bug 181652 in general "Automatically select "master channel" based on Phonon settings" [Wishlist,Needsinfo: later]07:29
yofelshadeslayer: IAS?07:29
shadeslayerjussi: how does that help me :(07:29
jussishadeslayer: second.. I guess Ill have to bug d_ed :)07:29
shadeslayeryofel: Infrastructure as a Service07:29
jussishadeslayer: move here already! :P07:29
shadeslayerpft, ETOOCOLD07:29
valorieshadeslayer: on it07:30
yofelshadeslayer: I think the I's the problem here :P07:30
yofelbut yeah, cool indeed07:30
shadeslayervalorie: thx <307:30
shadeslayeryofel: true true07:30
valorieshadeslayer: I did review that and add my special sauce when you first asked07:30
jussishadeslayer: oh come on, Ill take you up to the arctic circle in january - then youll know what cold is :P07:31
shadeslayervalorie: but I am so forgetful :( , best to leave a comment on cards07:31
shadeslayer<- very bad person for forgetting things07:31
valoriebut added comment to card as well07:31
valorienot sure I ever saw the card07:31
jussi"if it isnt written down, it didnt happen!" 07:31
jussi:P07:31
valoriebbbbbut07:32
shadeslayerjussi: I do want07:32
valorieI did write on the notes07:32
shadeslayerjussi: I do want to see the northern lights07:32
valorielol07:32
valorieok07:32
jussishadeslayer: well worth it :)07:32
shadeslayerand huskies07:32
shadeslayerand ride in a sleigh driven by huskies07:32
shadeslayer<307:32
jussishadeslayer: btw, what happened to the ktp presence thing for systray ?07:33
shadeslayeryofel: could make things like getting packages from PPA's or other repo's a paid feature07:33
shadeslayerthat way it's a bit more sustainable07:33
shadeslayerjussi: what about it?07:33
jussishadeslayer: it doesnt exist anymore? 07:33
shadeslayerit most certainly does07:33
shadeslayerhere07:33
jussiI dont see it...07:34
shadeslayerI've had way too much sugar this morning .... 07:34
jussishadeslayer: right click system tray, system tray settings - not in list07:34
shadeslayerjussi: odd, give me a couple of minutes07:34
shadeslayerneed to sort out some stuff07:34
jussiok07:35
shadeslayervalorie: suggestions on where to put https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide07:36
valoriehmmmm07:40
valoriefor sure we need to link to it from the announcement for 14.04, where we discuss offering FF07:41
valoriejust in case there are folks who don't have it, and run only Rekonq07:42
valorieI'm thinking that's about 2 people07:42
shadeslayer^^07:42
valorielemme page through the userdocs and see if there is a good place to add it there07:42
shadeslayerthx07:43
valorieoh what the hell07:43
valoriefirst page i hit isn't uptodate for 14.0407:44
valoriegrrrr07:44
valorieare we including any games in the ISO, apachelogger?07:45
valorieI know we used to offer kpat07:45
shadeslayervalorie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/trusty-desktop-amd64.manifest07:46
shadeslayerle manifest has everything07:46
valoriedanke schon07:46
shadeslayercan't find kpat there07:47
shadeslayerso probably kicked out07:47
valoriethis effing page needs one hell of a lot of work07:59
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shadeslayervalorie: let me know if I can help, though writing documentation isn't one of my strong suits :P08:02
valoriei"m writing to the list08:05
valorienot your problem08:05
valorieI feel guilty for not catching this before08:05
valorieprobably why i'm mad08:05
valoriebut seriously, it's a mashup of an old page I wrote for the last release08:05
valorieI've just had a large pile on my plate this time around08:06
shadeslayervalorie: ( I need a script to do this ) {{{{hugs}}}}08:07
* valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{[hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} back08:07
valoriesorry to hear you were sick08:08
valorieI took the whole weekend off because i was too08:08
valorieslept and binge-watched Downton Abbey08:08
valorieyou are feeling better, shadeslayer?08:08
shadeslayeryep, it was something I ate on Monday08:09
shadeslayerit all came out on Tuesday08:09
shadeslayerprobably Monday dinner08:09
shadeslayer<- Can't tell the difference between spoilt food and food at the moment08:10
valorieyikes08:10
shadeslayersome stuff is easy, milk, easy, cooked beans with alot of spices, not so easy08:10
valorie"all came out" -- sounds like fun08:11
shadeslayeryep08:11
shadeslayervalorie: whoa, that page is a proper mess08:13
shadeslayerlooks worse than what came out yesterday08:13
valorieI probably made it worse08:13
valorieI'll mess with it tomorrow if someone else doesn't split it08:14
shadeslayeridk, but it seems to list *everything* in the archive08:14
valoriewell, it was a list of "best of what else you can get08:14
shadeslayerjust had a cursory browse though08:14
valoriebut it's under the heading "what you get by default"08:14
valoriewhich is effed up08:14
shadeslayeroh heh08:15
valorieI made a page a long time ago for "what's the best that's out there"08:15
valoriehow it got all mashed together I do not know08:15
valoriemaybe in the move08:15
valorie:(08:16
valorienot sure if that page "what's the best" should even be in the user docs08:16
shadeslayerI don't think so08:17
shadeslayerfolks can use discover to ... uh ... discover things08:17
shadeslayerdocumentation for discovering things is just duplication now08:17
valorieat best it could be linked to08:18
shadeslayeryofel:     kde-baseapps: yofel WIP08:18
valorieright08:18
shadeslayeryofel: I can steal?08:18
yofelno08:18
shadeslayer:(08:18
yofelor let me commit 08:18
yofelthen you can08:18
valorieso maybe it should just be mostly ripped out08:18
valoriegeez08:18
shadeslayeryay08:18
shadeslayerhm08:19
shadeslayerpossibly we need a new kgapi as well08:19
yofelshadeslayer: committed, feel free to take over if baloo-widgets built fine08:21
shadeslayeryipee08:21
shadeslayerI feel like I would have so much less work if we just had better regex's instead of listing every single file in the install file08:22
yofeldepends, this way allows you to notice missing files08:23
shadeslayerwhich we would not have if we had better regex's :P08:24
yofelhow do you make a regex that only matches one file each? :P08:25
yofelor well, that would be pointless08:25
shadeslayer^^08:25
yofelwhich is my point08:25
apacheloggercurious observation: if you have two quasselclients connect you won't get a notification for highlights if the highlight has been seen by one of the clients -.-08:25
apacheloggervalorie: all games had to be shot in the face08:25
shadeslayeryou only noticed that now?08:25
shadeslayerI just took that for granted08:25
valorieoh well08:26
apacheloggervalorie: also, FWIW, from the discover poll it seemed as if no one cared about games08:26
valorieI figured as much08:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: ohai there08:26
shadeslayerhallo08:26
apacheloggerwait what08:26
apacheloggerOo08:26
apacheloggersomething is wrong here08:26
apacheloggervery wrong08:26
valorielast I looked, no games showed up in Muon Discover08:26
shadeslayer??08:27
valoriebut that seems to be intermittent08:27
* valorie checks again08:27
valorienow they all appear08:27
valorieI hate weird shit like that08:27
valoriebut working is better than not08:28
valorieapachelogger: i think those who play kde-games type games aren't answering our polls08:29
valoriethat seems more like parents installing stuff for their kiddies08:30
shadeslayeryofel: for eg. why do we have usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2.1.08:30
apacheloggerI know, no one who is answering our polls tens to think the same08:30
shadeslayeryofel: usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2.1.008:30
shadeslayerinstead of usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2*08:30
valorieand grandmas like me who play solitaire08:30
apacheloggersomehow my thinking isn't quite straight today08:31
apacheloggerkubotu: order coffee08:31
* kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger.08:31
apacheloggerkubotu: order MOAR COFFEE08:31
* kubotu slides moar coffee down the bar to apachelogger08:31
shadeslayerkubotu: order sugar08:31
* kubotu slides sugar down the bar to shadeslayer08:31
shadeslayeryou can't slide sugar silly bot08:31
apacheloggersure ye can08:31
shadeslayerwell ... maybe if it's in a bowl ....08:31
valoriesugar in a bowl, or cubes08:31
* valorie pelts shadeslayer with sugar cubes08:32
shadeslayermmmm08:32
valoriegeeez, i should get off the internets08:32
valorieinstead of being rude and hostile!08:32
shadeslayervalorie: but someone could be wrong!08:33
valorielol08:33
* valorie orders the bot to clean up the mess of sugar08:33
apacheloggervalorie: /nick vaderlogger ... no one shall ever know it was you being rude08:33
kubotuvalorie: clean it up yourself!08:34
valorielol08:34
valorie!08:34
valoriebtw, did you see the lord vader vid I posted for you the other day?08:34
apacheloggeryes08:34
shadeslayeris it the one where he's playing bagpipes on a uni cycle with fire coming out of the pipes?08:35
apacheloggerI promptly replied with a lego video of it08:35
valoriehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX0Z4kxKlKY08:35
valorieNO!08:35
valoriethis is eddie izzard08:35
yofelshadeslayer: well, that makes sense to have patterns for08:35
apacheloggerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw08:35
valorie<308:35
yofelI was talking about data files etc.08:35
valorieoh god, I must have missed that in the netsplit08:36
shadeslayeryay08:37
shadeslayerjust got something awesome in the mailk08:37
apacheloggerthat's spelled kmail08:37
* apachelogger hits shadeslayer on the head08:37
kubotudeath by tray it shall be!08:39
valorieexcellent lego enactment!08:39
apacheloggerkubotu: quite right, kind robot, quite right08:39
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JeffVaderniters08:39
apacheloggerJeffVader: can I get your autograph?08:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: no no, as in physical mail08:40
apacheloggerwhat is this? the 80's?08:40
apachelogger!info libvlc08:44
ubottuPackage libvlc does not exist in saucy08:44
apachelogger!info vlc08:44
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (saucy), package size 1052 kB, installed size 3347 kB08:44
shadeslayerwell this is most certainly weird09:04
shadeslayerE: libkgapi2-2: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN6KGAPI212DriveService11copyFileUrlERK7QString@Base and 1118 others09:04
shadeslayerahh09:05
shadeslayerI really need a duck09:05
jussishadeslayer: go to your local chinese - they probably have it on the menu :P :P09:07
shadeslayerjussi: I was talking about this one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Qt_duck.jpg09:08
jussihehe09:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: plz upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/libkgapi_2.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc09:18
apacheloggerhalf an hour09:18
shadeslayeryou're blocking kdepim for 30 minutes then09:19
apacheloggerthe internets is09:19
apacheloggeralso09:20
apacheloggerbecome motu09:20
shadeslayerin hindi that literally translates to become fat09:20
apacheloggersounds about right09:20
jussihah!09:21
apacheloggerohohoh09:21
apacheloggershadeslayer: qt SRU09:21
shadeslayeradded to TODO09:22
apacheloggerI think a lot of the top crashers right now are because of that09:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: again, probably can't upload xD09:24
shadeslayeralso, did fregl get back?09:25
apacheloggeryes, he approved09:25
apacheloggerand said that the patch is spooky to begin with09:25
apacheloggerwhich is news right there ^^09:25
shadeslayerit's alright even though it's spooky?09:26
apachelogger  Uploading libkgapi_2.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.09:29
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.09:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: the original a11y patch he meant09:29
apacheloggerthe patch for the patch is fine09:29
shadeslayerah09:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: thx09:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: this is weird09:39
shadeslayer/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/AccountsQt/AccountsQtConfigVersion.cmake has version 1.1109:39
shadeslayerbut : ../../../resources/facebook/../shared/getcredentialsjob.h:27:30: fatal error: SignOn/SessionData: No such file or directory09:39
shadeslayer #include <SignOn/SessionData>09:39
shadeslayerin kdepim-runtime09:39
shadeslayereven the version on libaccountsqt-dev is 1.1009:40
shadeslayerhm, I reckon we can update that too09:40
shadeslayerseeing how nothing else depends on it09:40
* apachelogger doesn't compute all of the above anyway09:40
shadeslayershit is broken09:43
shadeslayerwhoa09:46
shadeslayerO_O09:46
shadeslayer -- Ubuntu daily release <ps-jenkins@lists.canonical.com>  Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:15:20 +000009:46
shadeslayerI wonder whom to poke about that09:46
apacheloggerthe qa manager!09:46
shadeslayerstuff be outdated :(09:47
shadeslayermakes me sad09:47
shadeslayermmm ... this might break ubuntu stuff since the Qt5 package is generated by the same source09:47
shadeslayersigh09:47
apacheloggerhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a71c92cf2e3940f3b2a897671c4255315e72e69009:48
apacheloggerI think there's a bug in apt-pkg :'<09:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/751e840dab47f7bf986db754c38aac49e09db4ba09:50
shadeslayerworse bugs to look at 09:50
apacheloggerOo09:50
apacheloggerI slightly hate python09:51
shadeslayerI think it's because of updated Qt409:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: how so?09:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: there was no qt upload09:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: well, it isn't apport since yofel tried out 0ubuntu4 and it crashed as well09:53
apacheloggerwell yeah, apport also hasn't had an upload :P09:54
shadeslayerit did09:54
apacheloggerall of feburary there was no qt or pyqt upload it seems09:54
shadeslayerall problems appear in 0ubuntu509:54
shadeslayerexcept that one entry in 0ubuntu409:55
apacheloggerah09:55
apacheloggerthere it is09:55
apacheloggerctrl-f failing me09:55
apacheloggeryofel: did you remember to downgrade python-apport and python3-apport?09:55
apacheloggerthere also was a python upload FWIW09:56
lordievaderGood morning.09:56
apacheloggeryofel: make sure you have all apport packages downgraded, if that does nto help also try downgrading python09:58
apacheloggerthere isn't hat much stuff that could have an impact like that09:59
shadeslayerI hate quassel09:59
shadeslayerit's messed up my channel list :|09:59
apacheloggeryeah, let's switch to konversation10:00
apacheloggerhow does not trigger the crash shadeslayer?10:00
shadeslayerkubotu: order coffee for apachelogger10:00
* kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger.10:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: try again10:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: how does one trigger the crash?10:00
* apachelogger is somewhat concerned over one->not10:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/128271310:01
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1282713 not found10:01
apacheloggerkubotu: order brain10:01
* kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!10:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: why is that private?10:01
shadeslayeridk, I haven't bothered to set it to public 10:01
apacheloggerfirst thing yiou do is set stuff public10:01
apacheloggeralways10:01
apacheloggerwithout looking10:01
apacheloggerbecause FU launchpad10:02
shadeslayerwithout looking? :O10:02
apacheloggeryes10:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: that doesn't really say how to reproduce it, does it?10:02
apacheloggeroh10:03
apacheloggersomehow I think my apport installation is busted, lol10:03
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/65U57TW.png thats my window xD10:03
apacheloggerand then it crashed10:03
shadeslayerlol10:04
apacheloggerdoesn't want to tell me what is wrong though10:05
apacheloggersilly thing10:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: also, running it through the apport test cases also causes it to crash IIRC10:06
apacheloggerI am more concerned with the broken UI right now10:06
shadeslayerI think that's because of the apachelogger effect10:07
shadeslayer"All software breaks down around apachelogger"10:07
shadeslayeror the apachelogger certainity effect, all bugs occur around apachelogger :P10:07
apacheloggerbecause all software is weak and has shitty code10:07
apacheloggerit's not apport10:13
apacheloggershadeslayer, yofel: the pyqt bindings for python3.4 are busted10:14
apacheloggerthe defaults chang eot python3.4 is why it started crashing10:14
apacheloggerman10:14
apachelogger*the defaults change to10:14
apacheloggerpython3.4 /usr/share/apport/apport-kde -w == crash10:14
apacheloggerpython3.3 /usr/share/apport/apport-kde -w == no crash10:14
shadeslayeraren't we on 3.3 this cycle?10:14
apacheloggerno10:15
apacheloggerwas changed on Feb1810:15
shadeslayer3.4?10:15
shadeslayeroh10:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: upload plz http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/artikulate_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc10:39
apachelogger!info gwenview trusty10:45
ubottugwenview (source: gwenview): image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.3-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 2813 kB, installed size 4374 kB10:45
apacheloggerisn't aht supposed to be beta1?10:45
apacheloggershadeslayer:   Uploading artikulate_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.               10:46
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.      10:46
shadeslayerthx11:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: what did we finalize about the tr calls in libqapt? Messages.sh should extract them?11:02
shadeslayerif so, how would it work, since libqapt doesn't do catalog loading afaict11:03
apacheloggerwe finilized that someone needs to figure things out with manchicken and probably apol11:03
shadeslayerokay, will wait for apol then11:03
shadeslayerand email manchicken11:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: got any cards for me11:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: the one that says QT SRU FFS11:04
shadeslayeryeah, doing that now11:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: but apart from that11:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: see the purple boards on trello11:04
shadeslayerwhere's this Qt4 SRU card11:05
apacheloggerthere aint one11:05
apacheloggerbecause it's a multi-target SRU11:05
apacheloggerneeds SRUing all the way back to 12.0411:05
apacheloggerand possibly immediate relief updates in the backports PPA11:06
shadeslayergot a bug number?11:06
shadeslayeroh wait11:07
shadeslayermaybe changelog has one11:07
shadeslayernope11:07
shadeslayerso I get to file one :(11:07
apacheloggersome bug reports make me wanna jump off a cliff11:11
apacheloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/1200523/comments/172 quite possibly11:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200523 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "Some of the kubuntu patches break plasma" [Undecided,Fix released]11:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: saucy as well?11:14
shadeslayererm11:14
shadeslayerQuantal as well?11:14
apacheloggeris that still supported?11:14
apacheloggerubottu: how do I ask if you quantal is still supported?11:15
apachelogger!eol11:15
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:15
shadeslayeryes :(11:15
yofelit is for like another month or so11:15
apacheloggerpff, one month11:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: screw it11:15
shadeslayerokay11:15
apacheloggerunless ubuntu-sru makes you push the fix11:15
apacheloggerwe'll not get any testers for it11:15
apacheloggerScottK: ^ what say you?11:16
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)11:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: want to do some uploads of Qt4-x11 to precise-proposed?11:22
shadeslayerin 30 minutes11:22
apacheloggeryou know11:24
apacheloggerquassel is cool11:24
apacheloggerI keep using ctrl-w11:24
apacheloggerand it keeps fucking me over11:24
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RiddellvHanda: am I right in thinking I want kde-runtime built with nepomuk bits in 4.13 if I want amarok and digikam to still work with nepomuk?11:32
apacheloggerRiddell: amarok nepomuk stuff is non-functional11:33
apacheloggerdrop it11:33
vHandayes, but please remember that amarok integration with Nepomuk is optional and not really part of the core functionality11:33
vHandasame is the case with Digikam11:33
vHandaI would recommend not shipping nepomuk in kde-runtime11:33
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:34
RiddellvHanda: anything else that we might get complaints about if we drop it or shall we say a quick goodbye?11:34
vHandanot that I know of. Bangarang hasn't been working correctly for sometime now.11:35
RiddellvHanda: plasma media centre?11:36
yofelso nothing in kde is still using nepomuk?11:36
yofelkde sc I mean11:36
shadeslayerfooey11:38
vHandaRiddell: ah right. Those guys!11:38
vHandayup, you're out of luck then.11:39
shadeslayerI'll have to test build Qt4 :/11:39
Riddellshadeslayer: why?11:39
vHandaThough I would just forget about it, but then I have a very very biased view.11:39
shadeslayerRiddell: because the a11y patch from the ML doesn't apply cleanly and I need to build Qt4 to check if it will build correctly11:39
Riddellshadeslayer: which a11y patch?11:40
shadeslayerthe one that fixes the plasma crash11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/128960011:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1289600 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Trusty) "Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch" [Undecided,New]11:40
Riddelloh yes I knew I had an e-mail thread to read on that11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: being taken care of :)11:41
shadeslayerRiddell: on that note, I actually dropped the nepomuk stuff from runtime11:41
Riddellpoor PMC11:41
shadeslayeralso, this means we should not enable nepomuk in that other thing that we enabled it in11:43
shadeslayerkde-workspace was it?11:43
Riddelldo we need to recompile amarok et al?11:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: did you get my ping about kwin_gles11:43
shadeslayerRiddell: nah, run time IIRC11:43
apacheloggershadeslayer: no11:44
shadeslayeroh wait11:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: nvm, I need to email martin11:45
Riddellshadeslayer: I've got this glib patch from jmux for qt, shall I just put it in the bzr and let you take care of it?11:45
shadeslayerRiddell: please file a SRU bug with all the relevant info11:45
yofelshadeslayer: kde-baseapps?11:45
shadeslayerI don't want to do more SRU paperwork11:45
yofelor I'm thinking about runtime...11:46
shadeslayerRiddell: and then send me the patch11:46
shadeslayeryofel: I don't rememebr11:46
apacheloggerRiddell: did you ask thiago yet?11:46
Riddellshadeslayer: yes I'll do the SRU I just mean I won't upload it to trusty if you're doing qt in trusty today11:46
Riddellshadeslayer: bug 129051411:46
ubottubug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Trusty) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129051411:46
Riddellapachelogger: yep, I'm sure he'll reply any minute now11:46
shadeslayeryofel: it's the package you fixed11:46
apacheloggerRiddell: ok :)11:47
yofelshadeslayer: which was runtime11:47
yofelso nepomuk wasn't really dropped there11:47
shadeslayerright11:49
shadeslayerneeds dropping there11:49
shadeslayerRiddell: I need a patch for that bug11:52
shadeslayergerrit sucks when it comes to downloading a patch11:52
Riddellshadeslayer: it's in bzr11:55
shadeslayerbzr branch?11:55
Riddellshadeslayer: just needs uploading to trusty, I'll take care of the SRU (unless you are planning to do an SRU anyway)11:55
Riddellshadeslayer: kbzr co qt11:55
shadeslayerwell ... I was thinking of doing it11:56
Riddellshadeslayer: ok great :)11:57
shadeslayerRiddell: did you upload qt4-x11 ?11:58
Riddellshadeslayer: nope11:58
shadeslayerbecause changelog doesn't have a UNRELEASED entry11:59
Riddellshadeslayer: because I was planning to before you said you're working on qt11:59
Riddellshadeslayer: so you'll take care of glib and plasma patches in trusty and SRUs?11:59
shadeslayeryep12:00
Riddelllovely, I'll crack on with 4.12.80 then12:00
Riddellactually I'll do that udisks2 update jmux wanted12:00
=== soee_ is now known as soee
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1290947] System go to sleep after a few minutes of inactivity. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290947 (by Jaime Pérez)12:12
Riddellhas printing broken for anyone else today?13:27
shadeslayerRiddell: Qt4 for Trusty up13:28
shadeslayerworking my way back now13:28
Riddellshadeslayer: lovelyness13:28
RiddellvHanda: what does "enable developer mode" mean in baloo kcm?13:28
RiddellvHanda and everyone: by default do we want baloo indexing ~/Documents or all of ~ ?13:29
Riddellshadeslayer: kde-runtime still has -DKDERUNTIME_BUILD_NEPOMUK=TRUE I thought you said you dropped it?13:31
* jussi coughs and points those with access to his G+/FB :D13:31
Riddellshadeslayer: uh oh, qt failed on arm13:32
shadeslayeralready?!13:33
Riddelljussi: another jussi family member, well done!13:33
jussi:)13:33
shadeslayerRiddell: I dropped it on some other package, but not on kde-runtime13:33
shadeslayerjussi: another KDE/Kubuntu contributor13:34
shadeslayeryay13:34
jussishadeslayer: elodi is already a user :D 13:34
Riddellshadeslayer: ok I'll drop it on kde-runtime since that seems to be the way to go13:35
shadeslayerjussi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUOB8MN4Kc13:35
jussihehe13:35
vHandaRiddell: I'll be removing that. Dont' worry about it.13:38
shadeslayerRiddell: " libgles2-mesa-dev : Depends: libegl1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed"13:42
shadeslayernot my problem13:42
shadeslayeror well13:44
shadeslayera problem not caused by me would be more appropriate13:45
Peace-hi i have a little problem here ,  14.04 sudo apt-get build-dep dolphin ; apt-get source dolphin ;  sudo dpkg-buildpackage -j9 -b -rfakeroot -us -uc  ... it goes but then i got an error 13:51
Peace-http://wklej.org/id/129724813:51
Riddell"error: experiment/kde-baseapps-4.12.3/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/debabi_verscript_konq: No such file or directory"13:53
RiddellPeace-: something funky happening with our abi patch13:54
Peace-:)13:54
sgclarkRiddell: I tried to make symbols for the .so files in baloo to resolve intra-source-package-circular-dependency baloo libbalooxapian4 and after beating my head on it for some time, I have come to the conclusion that will not work, dpkg-gensymbols refuses to use them and creates empty symbols file resulting in error. Now I am back to circular, any ideas?13:56
vHandaRiddell: all of ~/13:56
Riddellsgclark: what's the circle?13:57
sgclarkRiddell: intra-source-package-circular-dependency baloo libbalooxapian413:57
Riddellah yes libbalooxapian4 depend on baloo13:57
Riddellprobably only because it depends on libbaloocore413:58
sgclarkobjdumb shows it does indeed13:58
RiddellI wonder if there's some clever thing we can put in debian/rules to tell it not to add that shlibs depends13:58
sgclarklet me research that, thanks13:58
Peace-mmm i will reboot laters13:59
Riddellsgclark: try this...13:59
Riddelloverride_dh_shlibdeps: $(overridden_command) -- -xbaloo13:59
Riddell(new line, tab after the colon)13:59
sgclarkRiddell: will do thank you14:00
sgclarkRiddell: that did it, thanks! will be ready shortly14:06
Riddellsgclark: awooga14:07
Riddellshadeslayer: you marked artikulate as done but it's not in the PPA or bzr?14:07
shadeslayerRiddell: it's in the archive14:07
sgclarkRiddell: what was the other one you wanted me to review?14:07
shadeslayer!info artikulate trusty14:07
ubottuartikulate (source: artikulate): Language learning application. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 209 kB, installed size 625 kB14:07
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/artikulate/0.2.0-0ubuntu114:08
Riddellshadeslayer: but you've not touched it from KDE SC?14:09
Riddellsgclark: kqtquickcharts I also packaged14:09
sgclarkok14:09
shadeslayerit's not in KDE SC?14:10
shadeslayeroh wait what14:10
shadeslayerwhat14:10
shadeslayerpft14:11
shadeslayerRiddell: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/artikulate/".14:13
shadeslayer]14:13
shadeslayerso we actually don't have a packaging branch14:13
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, this is what I was saying, I'll update it for SC if you're not doing anything on it14:14
shadeslayeron it14:14
* Riddell off it14:14
Riddellshadeslayer: I'll steal gwenview from you then14:14
shadeslayergo ahead14:16
shadeslayernothing to steal till something else wasn't built IIRC14:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://trello.com/c/dAa6lSDW14:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: you really don't want to kick off hplip14:20
shadeslayerthat would drop support for all HP Printers?14:20
shadeslayersome of them printers are scanners as well, and for some reason CUPS only adds the printer not the scanner14:21
shadeslayerso skanlite never sees the scanner14:21
sgclarkI personally could not get my scanner to work without hplip, so I agree needed!14:26
sgclarkRiddell: baloo ready14:27
Riddellsgclark: looking good14:29
Riddellsgclark: you could also cast a critical eye over baloo-widgets although I think shadeslayer has already had a look14:29
sgclarkRiddell: package-has-long-file-name 77 (86) > 80 ignore?14:30
Riddellsgclark: what's the name?14:33
sgclarkRiddell: qtdeclarative4-kqtquickcharts-114:33
jmuxRiddell, shadeslayer: Just came back from a longer meeting. I'm still waitung for additional review from Qt devs. Not sure if I should actively poke them...14:33
shadeslayerjussi: I'd wait till tomorrow14:34
shadeslayererm14:34
shadeslayerjmux: ^^14:34
Riddellsgclark: do you know which file name it's complaining about?14:34
sgclarkRiddell: That is the only package so it has to be that14:35
sgclarkRiddell: qtdeclarative4-kqtquickcharts-1_4.12.80-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1_amd64.deb is pretty long :)14:36
Riddelloh I see, well hmm not much we can do about that really14:37
sgclarkyeaah figured14:37
sgclarkunless you want me to add override this package is good as is14:37
Riddellsgclark: nah leave it incase we want to care about it later14:38
sgclarkok, I will look over baloo-widgetss14:38
apachelogger_shadeslayer: does not compute14:39
apachelogger_are cups drivers now written in python?14:39
shadeslayerno, however hplip does some magic14:39
shadeslayertl;dr wireless scanner doesn't show up on my machine till I don't run hp-setup14:40
apachelogger_shadeslayer: right, and we have a gui for that?14:40
* Riddell wonders why nepomuk-core build-deps on baloo14:41
vHandamigrator14:41
vHandayou guys will need to run that14:41
shadeslayerapachelogger_: yes, and as stated before just running the printer config kcm doesn't make the scanner show up14:41
shadeslayerapachelogger_: scanner doesn't show up until you run hp-setup14:41
RiddellvHanda: ooh? is that a binary?14:42
vHandayes, nepomukbaloomigrator14:42
apachelogger_shadeslayer: so what value does hplip add?14:42
shadeslayerapachelogger_: hp-setup!14:42
shadeslayerand drivers I think14:42
apachelogger_it most certainly does not contain drivers14:42
apachelogger_and hp-setup is a non-value because we have no GUI using it supposedly14:42
shadeslayerfine, hp-setup is the most important bit then14:42
apachelogger_it's a non-existant bit, unless a user gets told to run it, they might as well not have it14:43
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shadeslayerI most certainly think that we shouldn't remove it since that's alot of people are now conditioned to do, and we do not have an alternative to it14:46
RiddellvHanda: and there's no ready-to-go way this gets run, distros need to add one themselves?14:48
apacheloggerthe alternative is sudo apt-get install hplip14:48
vHandaRiddell: well, I could add it as part of auto-run, but it's a one time thing. A post-install call might be simpler?14:48
RiddellvHanda: package post-installs are run as root, this presumably needs to be run by each user14:49
apacheloggervHanda: autostart desktop file + kconfig thingy14:49
Quintasan\o14:50
rdietervHanda: or maybe just kconf_update (those are one-time)14:50
apacheloggervHanda: see kaddressbookmigrator for example14:50
Riddellshadeslayer: can you disable the blue-shell/finder baloo build now? I guess it's not needed and it's failing14:52
shadeslayeryeah14:53
shadeslayerRiddell: tomorrow14:54
Riddellshadeslayer: or as you spanish say, mañana :)14:55
vHandaRiddell: when are you moving to Barcelona?14:56
RiddellvHanda: end of June, got a spare bed for me?14:56
vHandayes14:56
Riddelllovely14:56
vHandaI do actually have a sofa which can become a bed14:56
vHandayou're welcome to use it14:56
shadeslayerI might as well go and sleep15:01
shadeslayersince all of this stuff will take forever to compile15:01
Riddellshadeslayer: qt?15:01
shadeslayerQt, artikulate, kdepim-runtime15:01
Riddellshadeslayer: doing kdepim-runtime for 4.12.80 ?15:02
shadeslayeryep15:02
Riddellshadeslayer: remember to update https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas15:02
Riddellthere's four of us working on 4.12.80 now15:02
* Quintasan will try to help in the evening.15:03
sgclarkRiddell: baloo-widgtes ready, had to fix copyright file15:13
sgclarkbaloo-widgets rather15:13
Riddellsgclark: super thanks15:15
sgclarkRiddell: kdepim is red, I have some experience building that so I am going to give a try at it.15:18
Riddellsgclark: cool, it might block on kdepim-runtime though (which shadeslayer is doing) I'm not sure15:18
Riddellsgclark: do mark it on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas15:18
shadeslayerRiddell: kdepim-runtime uploaded15:19
yofelkdepim is just missing files so far, so should build fine15:19
QuintasanDid anyone try touching the optional deps on kstars?15:25
RiddellQuintasan: I'm looking at it now15:25
RiddellQuintasan: it's made by the same guy as indi and has a similarly crap build system15:25
Quintasan-_-15:26
QuintasanChrist.15:26
RiddellQuintasan: I've no idea if the package can or should be split up15:26
QuintasanRiddell: You mean kstars itself or the dependencies?15:26
RiddellQuintasan: the new dependency astrometry.net15:27
QuintasanOkay.15:27
yofelif we're already at astronomy stuff, marble gained a libastro1 - since when did marble do stuff outside of earth o.O?15:28
Riddellwhee15:28
Quintasanyofel: Can we walk on Mars now?15:29
yofelnot sure, but while reading the git log trying to figure out a description I found stuff like "Tested for Earth, the Moon and Mars"15:29
QuintasanWow.15:30
QuintasanRiddell: This Makefile in astrometry.net - just wow.15:30
yofel    Formerly we just got sunshading for earth and an approximation for the15:30
yofel    moon. No we got phases for all planets and moons in the solar system!15:30
Quintasanyofel: lol15:30
yofelI need to try marble after it builds ^^15:31
QuintasanRiddell: make report.txt15:31
QuintasanBrilliant.15:31
RiddellQuintasan: these astronomers really have something against using build systems15:32
shadeslayerRiddell: plz review artikulate15:35
shadeslayerI'm slightly concerned about the so's in -dev15:36
shadeslayerbecause they're not symlinks15:36
yofelthat sounds... wrong15:37
Quintasan+115:38
Riddellastrometry.net uploaded to ninjas, review that if you want to see wrong :)15:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: got any cards15:43
shadeslayerwhich are not shitty15:43
shadeslayerI don't want to do shitty cards15:44
yofelgo figure out why I see a hibernate button :P15:45
shadeslayeroooh, got any logs to go with that15:45
yofelif you tell me what you want...15:45
shadeslayerI'm waiting for debuild -S -sd to complete on Qt415:46
yofelso far the only way to reproduce it is: leave the system running for a while15:46
shadeslayeryofel: so it only happens after the system has been running for a bit?15:46
yofelif I start fresh, it's not there. If I suspend and wake up, it's not there. If I leave it running for a day or two suspending a few times during that, it's there15:47
yofelupower still says I can't hibernate, so it's not that but rather logind, or whatever controls dbus15:48
shadeslayeryour computer has been possesed, please take it to a exorcist immediately15:48
yofelthat'll be 2 notebook to fix for him then :P15:48
yofel*notebooks15:48
shadeslayeryofel: qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanHibernate 15:49
yofelo.O15:49
yofel$ qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanHibernate 15:49
yofelchallenge15:49
shadeslayerwait what15:49
shadeslayerchallenge?15:49
shadeslayerwhat?15:49
yofelwell, yes...?15:49
shadeslayerthat's the output?15:50
yofelyes, and I'm not even trying to make fun of you...15:50
yofelwant a screenshot?15:50
shadeslayerI ... have never seen such an output15:51
yofeldito -.-15:51
shadeslayerI repeat, your system is possesed15:51
yofelwell, ubuntu-logind is possessed15:52
shadeslayeryofel: maybe poke pitti15:52
shadeslayerhe mentioned something about Hibernate being disabled on Ubuntu15:53
yofeltanglu says the same thing though, so it's logind15:53
shadeslayeroh huh15:53
yofelwell, we have a pk config file that disables it, but even that's ignored by logind15:53
yofellets see what challenge is supposed to mean though15:53
shadeslayertrying to find documentation for that15:53
yofelshadeslayer: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind/15:56
shadeslayerah hm15:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: go do shitty cards plz15:58
shadeslayer:(15:58
shadeslayertoo tired15:59
Riddellshadeslayer: review our new website15:59
Peace-Riddell: :D question do you know this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/12/plasma-desktopcP2517.png  maybe you can help me , where can i find the source code of it ?16:00
RiddellPeace-: of the file open dialogue?16:01
Peace-Riddell: yep16:03
Peace-Riddell: on the plasma channel they said this   kdelibs16:04
Riddellxnox: ok if I upload ubiquity?16:06
RiddellPeace-: they'd be right, it is part of kdelibs16:06
Peace-Riddell: thank you very much :D16:07
xnoxRiddell: sure, go ahead.16:07
RiddellPeace-: kfiledialog.h in kio/kfile in kdelibs 416:08
Riddellkubotu: newpackage qxorm16:42
kubotuincorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help newpackage'16:42
Riddellkubotu: newpackage qxorm 1.2.616:42
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129147816:43
Riddellneeded for plasma-media-centre if anyone wants some packaging ↑16:46
shadeslayerRiddell: debdiff attached to bug for Saucy17:03
Riddellshadeslayer: will you upload it or do you want me to?17:04
shadeslayerRiddell: I can't17:04
shadeslayernot elite enough17:04
Riddellsurely not!17:04
shadeslayeror well, atleast I don't think I can upload it17:04
shadeslayermaybe I can17:05
Riddelldunno, I need to run off now however17:05
* Riddell runs off17:05
shadeslayerRiddell: yay, I can upload17:08
xnoxRiddell: *someone* *cough* me17:31
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)17:35
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)18:24
ahoneybunhowdy19:34
lordievaderHey ahoneybun, how are you doing?19:36
ahoneybunlordievader, ok messed up my hand a bit but that was my own stupid nature lol19:36
ahoneybunyou??19:36
lordievaderahoneybun: Messed up your hand? How come?19:42
ahoneybunlordievader, trying to get a drink out of a vending machine lol19:42
lordievaderAre you hurt badly?19:42
ahoneybunno no just peeled skin to the 1st layer in one spot19:44
lordievaderahoneybun: Ah ok, I''m doing good btw. How are the translations coming along?19:44
ahoneybunI believe we have about 5-6 langs (including eng) but last time I saw they did not should up in khelpcenter19:45
lordievaderI don't know khelpcenter, but doesn't it look at the sys locale?19:47
ahoneybunI change the locale19:47
ahoneybunbut nothing 19:47
lordievaderahoneybun: Then I don't know.19:48
ahoneybunyea need to get that working19:48
* ahoneybun installing danish to test khelpcenter again19:50
ahoneybuntesting in danish it kinda works19:53
ahoneybunkhelpcenter looks in the wrong location for danish19:56
windows_hi20:53
soeehmm 4.12.80 almost ready  :)21:05
windows_I hope that we can have on youtube site option like   near list of videos just option easy OPEN IN NEW WINDOW or  OPEN HERE 21:10
windows_xd21:10
windows_and to get option on plasma option to freee ram on apps that are caching  FEE UP RAM 21:11
windows_XD21:11
windows_also on right side of file manager it will be nice to get main options like in trash folder to    DELETE FILES , EMPTY TRASH or RESTORE FILE 21:15
windows_;)21:15
windows_also if is possible to get option before user login or with it option to choese driver for graphic          SELECT DRIVER TO LOAD so it will never user get stucked ;)21:17
RiddellMirv: meh I missed the qt sesson today, what's the gossip?22:16
A3D_Damirkubuntu can make pannel for adds and marketing compannies so when they want to make adds it will be on desktop with option for users to choese branch , section and to remove or show up MARKETING PANNEL 22:46
A3D_Damirkubuntu should have how to  section for users  and most common problems like BLUR  newbeeeeee will throw it when that happen to HIM 22:50
Riddellsgclark: how did you get on with kdepim?23:02
=== JeffVader is now known as valorie
RiddellvHanda: is dolphin ported to baloo? it doesn't seem to share ratings with gwenview and the Find function still has a big nepomuk icon23:22
vHandayes it has been23:22
vHandaare you sure the ratings aren't being shared?23:22
vHandawe haven't changed the nepomuk icon23:23
RiddellvHanda: yep, all separate23:23
Riddelltags not shared either23:23
Riddellboth version 4.12.8023:24
Riddellhmm dolphin doesn't link against any baloo library but does link against nepomuk libraries23:26
* Riddell installs ~ppa223:27
RiddellvHanda: ah hah, sorry, I had an old build installed23:28
Riddellnew one all good23:28
sgclarkRiddell: lots of changes to install files, new one pops up each build, still working on it23:33
Riddellsgclark: you know you can build it locally then run23:36
Riddelldh_install --list-missing23:36
Riddellto list all the new files23:36
Riddell?23:36
sgclarkRiddell: no I did not :( I will do that, thanks!23:37
sgclarkRiddell: is there a trick to finding remved files fast?23:38
Riddellsgclark: and  debuild -nc  will restart the whole build without clearing it all23:38
Riddellsgclark: not so slick,  dh_install --list-missing  will moan about missing files but you have to run it once for each file that's disappeared23:39
Riddellbut better than running the whole build23:39
sgclarkRiddell: yes thank you, I have been ruunning whole build all day so taking forever, this should speed it up23:39
Riddellsgclark: gosh sorry thought you knew that23:40
sgclarkRiddell: no worries, I am still learning.23:40
Riddellshadeslayer: how's qt SRUs doing?23:41

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