=== jackson is now known as Guest1184 === valorie_ is now known as valorie === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Guest1184 is now known as Noskcaj [07:13] hello [07:15] I wanna report an issue with the sleep mode on KDE 4.12.3. It doesn't work correctly and freeze my system after i turned on. [07:18] cortexA9: bugs.kde.org is your best chance to get something sorted :) [07:19] good morning [07:19] moin [07:20] morning shadeslayer, yofel [07:20] shadeslayer: seen my ping elsewhere? [07:20] just got into the office, give me a moment ;) [07:21] shadeslayer: take your time, grab a coffee or irn bru or whatever :) [07:21] jussi: i don't know if it's a KDE issue or Kubuntu.. [07:21] jussi: already had 2 on the way in [07:21] 2 coffee's that is [07:21] waiting for Riddell to move here so he can import Irn Bru [07:22] jussi: #10 ConferenceAuthOp::onPasswordProvided (this=0x9c6ae0, watcher=) at /build/buildd/ktp-auth-handler-0.7.80/conference-auth-op.cpp:105 [07:22] something to do with conference stuff is my guess [07:22] d_ed will probably know more, I haven't touched ktp code in ages [07:24] yofel: I've been deliberating on a node.js app that will allow you to build your own CD, powered by live build as the backend [07:24] own ubuntu CD that is [07:24] powered by a JSON config [07:24] could be cool, do we have proper ubuntu-live-build docs yet? [07:25] as long as cj is around, who needs docs [07:25] hehe [07:25] the docs lie anyway [07:25] for it is the way of documentation ;) [07:27] valorie: plz be leaving comments on card https://trello.com/c/aR2V1zm7 [07:29] yofel: what would be cooler is if it was offered as a IAS :P [07:29] After updating my Qt fixes with an improved test case, I'm comming back to the kubuntu-backports Precise udisks2 (USN-2142-1) and a long standing kmix bug (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181652). [07:29] shadeslayer: first thing: Irn Bru is now available in Finland :D [07:29] KDE bug 181652 in general "Automatically select "master channel" based on Phonon settings" [Wishlist,Needsinfo: later] [07:29] shadeslayer: IAS? [07:29] jussi: how does that help me :( [07:29] shadeslayer: second.. I guess Ill have to bug d_ed :) [07:29] yofel: Infrastructure as a Service [07:29] shadeslayer: move here already! :P [07:29] pft, ETOOCOLD [07:30] shadeslayer: on it [07:30] shadeslayer: I think the I's the problem here :P [07:30] but yeah, cool indeed [07:30] valorie: thx <3 [07:30] yofel: true true [07:30] shadeslayer: I did review that and add my special sauce when you first asked [07:31] shadeslayer: oh come on, Ill take you up to the arctic circle in january - then youll know what cold is :P [07:31] valorie: but I am so forgetful :( , best to leave a comment on cards [07:31] <- very bad person for forgetting things [07:31] but added comment to card as well [07:31] not sure I ever saw the card [07:31] "if it isnt written down, it didnt happen!" [07:31] :P [07:32] bbbbbut [07:32] jussi: I do want [07:32] I did write on the notes [07:32] jussi: I do want to see the northern lights [07:32] lol [07:32] ok [07:32] shadeslayer: well worth it :) [07:32] and huskies [07:32] and ride in a sleigh driven by huskies [07:32] <3 [07:33] shadeslayer: btw, what happened to the ktp presence thing for systray ? [07:33] yofel: could make things like getting packages from PPA's or other repo's a paid feature [07:33] that way it's a bit more sustainable [07:33] jussi: what about it? [07:33] shadeslayer: it doesnt exist anymore? [07:33] it most certainly does [07:33] here [07:34] I dont see it... [07:34] I've had way too much sugar this morning .... [07:34] shadeslayer: right click system tray, system tray settings - not in list [07:34] jussi: odd, give me a couple of minutes [07:34] need to sort out some stuff [07:35] ok [07:36] valorie: suggestions on where to put https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide [07:40] hmmmm [07:41] for sure we need to link to it from the announcement for 14.04, where we discuss offering FF [07:42] just in case there are folks who don't have it, and run only Rekonq [07:42] I'm thinking that's about 2 people [07:42] ^^ [07:42] lemme page through the userdocs and see if there is a good place to add it there [07:43] thx [07:43] oh what the hell [07:44] first page i hit isn't uptodate for 14.04 [07:44] grrrr [07:45] are we including any games in the ISO, apachelogger? [07:45] I know we used to offer kpat [07:46] valorie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/trusty-desktop-amd64.manifest [07:46] le manifest has everything [07:46] danke schon [07:47] can't find kpat there [07:47] so probably kicked out [07:59] this effing page needs one hell of a lot of work === agateau_ is now known as agateau [08:02] valorie: let me know if I can help, though writing documentation isn't one of my strong suits :P [08:05] i"m writing to the list [08:05] not your problem [08:05] I feel guilty for not catching this before [08:05] probably why i'm mad [08:05] but seriously, it's a mashup of an old page I wrote for the last release [08:06] I've just had a large pile on my plate this time around [08:07] valorie: ( I need a script to do this ) {{{{hugs}}}} [08:07] * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{[hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} back [08:08] sorry to hear you were sick [08:08] I took the whole weekend off because i was too [08:08] slept and binge-watched Downton Abbey [08:08] you are feeling better, shadeslayer? [08:09] yep, it was something I ate on Monday [08:09] it all came out on Tuesday [08:09] probably Monday dinner [08:10] <- Can't tell the difference between spoilt food and food at the moment [08:10] yikes [08:10] some stuff is easy, milk, easy, cooked beans with alot of spices, not so easy [08:11] "all came out" -- sounds like fun [08:11] yep [08:13] valorie: whoa, that page is a proper mess [08:13] looks worse than what came out yesterday [08:13] I probably made it worse [08:14] I'll mess with it tomorrow if someone else doesn't split it [08:14] idk, but it seems to list *everything* in the archive [08:14] well, it was a list of "best of what else you can get [08:14] just had a cursory browse though [08:14] but it's under the heading "what you get by default" [08:14] which is effed up [08:15] oh heh [08:15] I made a page a long time ago for "what's the best that's out there" [08:15] how it got all mashed together I do not know [08:15] maybe in the move [08:16] :( [08:16] not sure if that page "what's the best" should even be in the user docs [08:17] I don't think so [08:17] folks can use discover to ... uh ... discover things [08:17] documentation for discovering things is just duplication now [08:18] at best it could be linked to [08:18] yofel: kde-baseapps: yofel WIP [08:18] right [08:18] yofel: I can steal? [08:18] no [08:18] :( [08:18] or let me commit [08:18] then you can [08:18] so maybe it should just be mostly ripped out [08:18] geez [08:18] yay [08:19] hm [08:19] possibly we need a new kgapi as well [08:21] shadeslayer: committed, feel free to take over if baloo-widgets built fine [08:21] yipee [08:22] I feel like I would have so much less work if we just had better regex's instead of listing every single file in the install file [08:23] depends, this way allows you to notice missing files [08:24] which we would not have if we had better regex's :P [08:25] how do you make a regex that only matches one file each? :P [08:25] or well, that would be pointless [08:25] ^^ [08:25] which is my point [08:25] curious observation: if you have two quasselclients connect you won't get a notification for highlights if the highlight has been seen by one of the clients -.- [08:25] valorie: all games had to be shot in the face [08:25] you only noticed that now? [08:25] I just took that for granted [08:26] oh well [08:26] valorie: also, FWIW, from the discover poll it seemed as if no one cared about games [08:26] I figured as much [08:26] shadeslayer: ohai there [08:26] hallo [08:26] wait what [08:26] Oo [08:26] something is wrong here [08:26] very wrong [08:26] last I looked, no games showed up in Muon Discover [08:27] ?? [08:27] but that seems to be intermittent [08:27] * valorie checks again [08:27] now they all appear [08:27] I hate weird shit like that [08:28] but working is better than not [08:29] apachelogger: i think those who play kde-games type games aren't answering our polls [08:30] that seems more like parents installing stuff for their kiddies [08:30] yofel: for eg. why do we have usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2.1. [08:30] I know, no one who is answering our polls tens to think the same [08:30] yofel: usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2.1.0 [08:30] instead of usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2* [08:30] and grandmas like me who play solitaire [08:31] somehow my thinking isn't quite straight today [08:31] kubotu: order coffee [08:31] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. [08:31] kubotu: order MOAR COFFEE [08:31] * kubotu slides moar coffee down the bar to apachelogger [08:31] kubotu: order sugar [08:31] * kubotu slides sugar down the bar to shadeslayer [08:31] you can't slide sugar silly bot [08:31] sure ye can [08:31] well ... maybe if it's in a bowl .... [08:31] sugar in a bowl, or cubes [08:32] * valorie pelts shadeslayer with sugar cubes [08:32] mmmm [08:32] geeez, i should get off the internets [08:32] instead of being rude and hostile! [08:33] valorie: but someone could be wrong! [08:33] lol [08:33] * valorie orders the bot to clean up the mess of sugar [08:33] valorie: /nick vaderlogger ... no one shall ever know it was you being rude [08:34] valorie: clean it up yourself! [08:34] lol [08:34] ! [08:34] btw, did you see the lord vader vid I posted for you the other day? [08:34] yes [08:35] is it the one where he's playing bagpipes on a uni cycle with fire coming out of the pipes? [08:35] I promptly replied with a lego video of it [08:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX0Z4kxKlKY [08:35] NO! [08:35] this is eddie izzard [08:35] shadeslayer: well, that makes sense to have patterns for [08:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw [08:35] <3 [08:35] I was talking about data files etc. [08:36] oh god, I must have missed that in the netsplit [08:37] yay [08:37] just got something awesome in the mailk [08:37] that's spelled kmail [08:37] * apachelogger hits shadeslayer on the head [08:39] death by tray it shall be! [08:39] excellent lego enactment! [08:39] kubotu: quite right, kind robot, quite right === valorie is now known as JeffVader [08:39] niters [08:39] JeffVader: can I get your autograph? [08:40] apachelogger: no no, as in physical mail [08:40] what is this? the 80's? [08:44] !info libvlc [08:44] Package libvlc does not exist in saucy [08:44] !info vlc [08:44] vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (saucy), package size 1052 kB, installed size 3347 kB [09:04] well this is most certainly weird [09:04] E: libkgapi2-2: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN6KGAPI212DriveService11copyFileUrlERK7QString@Base and 1118 others [09:05] ahh [09:05] I really need a duck [09:07] shadeslayer: go to your local chinese - they probably have it on the menu :P :P [09:08] jussi: I was talking about this one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Qt_duck.jpg [09:08] hehe [09:18] apachelogger: plz upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/libkgapi_2.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [09:18] half an hour [09:19] you're blocking kdepim for 30 minutes then [09:19] the internets is [09:20] also [09:20] become motu [09:20] in hindi that literally translates to become fat [09:20] sounds about right [09:21] hah! [09:21] ohohoh [09:21] shadeslayer: qt SRU [09:22] added to TODO [09:23] I think a lot of the top crashers right now are because of that [09:24] apachelogger: again, probably can't upload xD [09:25] also, did fregl get back? [09:25] yes, he approved [09:25] and said that the patch is spooky to begin with [09:25] which is news right there ^^ [09:26] it's alright even though it's spooky? [09:29] Uploading libkgapi_2.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [09:29] Successfully uploaded packages. [09:29] shadeslayer: the original a11y patch he meant [09:29] the patch for the patch is fine [09:29] ah [09:29] apachelogger: thx [09:39] apachelogger: this is weird [09:39] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/AccountsQt/AccountsQtConfigVersion.cmake has version 1.11 [09:39] but : ../../../resources/facebook/../shared/getcredentialsjob.h:27:30: fatal error: SignOn/SessionData: No such file or directory [09:39] #include [09:39] in kdepim-runtime [09:40] even the version on libaccountsqt-dev is 1.10 [09:40] hm, I reckon we can update that too [09:40] seeing how nothing else depends on it [09:40] * apachelogger doesn't compute all of the above anyway [09:43] shit is broken [09:46] whoa [09:46] O_O [09:46] -- Ubuntu daily release Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:15:20 +0000 [09:46] I wonder whom to poke about that [09:46] the qa manager! [09:47] stuff be outdated :( [09:47] makes me sad [09:47] mmm ... this might break ubuntu stuff since the Qt5 package is generated by the same source [09:47] sigh [09:48] https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a71c92cf2e3940f3b2a897671c4255315e72e690 [09:48] I think there's a bug in apt-pkg :'< [09:50] apachelogger: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/751e840dab47f7bf986db754c38aac49e09db4ba [09:50] worse bugs to look at [09:50] Oo [09:51] I slightly hate python [09:51] I think it's because of updated Qt4 [09:51] shadeslayer: how so? [09:53] shadeslayer: there was no qt upload [09:53] apachelogger: well, it isn't apport since yofel tried out 0ubuntu4 and it crashed as well [09:54] well yeah, apport also hasn't had an upload :P [09:54] it did [09:54] all of feburary there was no qt or pyqt upload it seems [09:54] all problems appear in 0ubuntu5 [09:55] except that one entry in 0ubuntu4 [09:55] ah [09:55] there it is [09:55] ctrl-f failing me [09:55] yofel: did you remember to downgrade python-apport and python3-apport? [09:56] there also was a python upload FWIW [09:56] Good morning. [09:58] yofel: make sure you have all apport packages downgraded, if that does nto help also try downgrading python [09:59] there isn't hat much stuff that could have an impact like that [09:59] I hate quassel [09:59] it's messed up my channel list :| [10:00] yeah, let's switch to konversation [10:00] how does not trigger the crash shadeslayer? [10:00] kubotu: order coffee for apachelogger [10:00] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. [10:00] apachelogger: try again [10:00] shadeslayer: how does one trigger the crash? [10:01] * apachelogger is somewhat concerned over one->not [10:01] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282713 [10:01] Error: launchpad bug 1282713 not found [10:01] kubotu: order brain [10:01] * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW! [10:01] shadeslayer: why is that private? [10:01] idk, I haven't bothered to set it to public [10:01] first thing yiou do is set stuff public [10:01] always [10:01] without looking [10:02] because FU launchpad [10:02] without looking? :O [10:02] yes [10:02] shadeslayer: that doesn't really say how to reproduce it, does it? [10:03] oh [10:03] somehow I think my apport installation is busted, lol [10:03] http://i.imgur.com/65U57TW.png thats my window xD [10:03] and then it crashed [10:04] lol [10:05] doesn't want to tell me what is wrong though [10:05] silly thing [10:06] apachelogger: also, running it through the apport test cases also causes it to crash IIRC [10:06] I am more concerned with the broken UI right now [10:07] I think that's because of the apachelogger effect [10:07] "All software breaks down around apachelogger" [10:07] or the apachelogger certainity effect, all bugs occur around apachelogger :P [10:07] because all software is weak and has shitty code [10:13] it's not apport [10:14] shadeslayer, yofel: the pyqt bindings for python3.4 are busted [10:14] the defaults chang eot python3.4 is why it started crashing [10:14] man [10:14] *the defaults change to [10:14] python3.4 /usr/share/apport/apport-kde -w == crash [10:14] python3.3 /usr/share/apport/apport-kde -w == no crash [10:14] aren't we on 3.3 this cycle? [10:15] no [10:15] was changed on Feb18 [10:15] 3.4? [10:15] oh [10:39] apachelogger: upload plz http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/artikulate_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [10:45] !info gwenview trusty [10:45] gwenview (source: gwenview): image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.3-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 2813 kB, installed size 4374 kB [10:45] isn't aht supposed to be beta1? [10:46] shadeslayer: Uploading artikulate_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [10:46] Successfully uploaded packages. [11:00] thx [11:02] apachelogger: what did we finalize about the tr calls in libqapt? Messages.sh should extract them? [11:03] if so, how would it work, since libqapt doesn't do catalog loading afaict [11:03] we finilized that someone needs to figure things out with manchicken and probably apol [11:03] okay, will wait for apol then [11:04] and email manchicken [11:04] apachelogger: got any cards for me [11:04] shadeslayer: the one that says QT SRU FFS [11:04] yeah, doing that now [11:04] apachelogger: but apart from that [11:04] shadeslayer: see the purple boards on trello [11:05] where's this Qt4 SRU card [11:05] there aint one [11:05] because it's a multi-target SRU [11:05] needs SRUing all the way back to 12.04 [11:06] and possibly immediate relief updates in the backports PPA [11:06] got a bug number? [11:07] oh wait [11:07] maybe changelog has one [11:07] nope [11:07] so I get to file one :( [11:11] some bug reports make me wanna jump off a cliff [11:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/1200523/comments/172 quite possibly [11:12] Launchpad bug 1200523 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "Some of the kubuntu patches break plasma" [Undecided,Fix released] [11:14] apachelogger: saucy as well? [11:14] erm [11:14] Quantal as well? [11:14] is that still supported? [11:15] ubottu: how do I ask if you quantal is still supported? [11:15] !eol [11:15] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [11:15] yes :( [11:15] it is for like another month or so [11:15] pff, one month [11:15] shadeslayer: screw it [11:15] okay [11:15] unless ubuntu-sru makes you push the fix [11:15] we'll not get any testers for it [11:16] ScottK: ^ what say you? [11:21] ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov) [11:22] apachelogger: want to do some uploads of Qt4-x11 to precise-proposed? [11:22] in 30 minutes [11:24] you know [11:24] quassel is cool [11:24] I keep using ctrl-w [11:24] and it keeps fucking me over === hsitter is now known as apachelogger [11:32] vHanda: am I right in thinking I want kde-runtime built with nepomuk bits in 4.13 if I want amarok and digikam to still work with nepomuk? [11:33] Riddell: amarok nepomuk stuff is non-functional [11:33] drop it [11:33] yes, but please remember that amarok integration with Nepomuk is optional and not really part of the core functionality [11:33] same is the case with Digikam [11:33] I would recommend not shipping nepomuk in kde-runtime [11:34] 'Morning folks [11:34] vHanda: anything else that we might get complaints about if we drop it or shall we say a quick goodbye? [11:35] not that I know of. Bangarang hasn't been working correctly for sometime now. [11:36]