=== Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois === e11bits_ is now known as e11bits === broder_ is now known as broder === yp is now known as ypwong === Zachary_DuBois is now known as Zachary_DuBois|A === duflu_ is now known as duflu === Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Zachary_DuBois is now known as Zachary_DuBois|A === Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois === Zachary_DuBois is now known as Zachary_DuBois|A === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [05:16] charles: I had the same question a while ago, upower's test suite now has umockdev-synthesized bt mouse/keyboards === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === bigon_ is now known as bigon === thumper-afk is now known as thumper === pesari_ is now known as pesari === Wellark_ is now known as Wellark [09:00] good morning desktopers! [09:02] hi seb128 [09:03] darkxst, hey, how are you? [09:04] yeh good, and you? [09:11] I'm good thanks [09:11] nice, unity lock screen finally landed, it was getting late [09:11] bugfix mode now! [09:11] bregma, Trevinho, well done unity team ;-) [09:45] pitti: thanks, noted :) [09:49] charles, good "morning"? ;-) [09:54] hey seb128 [09:57] pitti, hey, wie gehts? [09:57] seb128: gut, danke! und Dir? [09:57] pitti, auch gut, danke! [09:57] seb128: amazingly tame and constructive systemd UDS discussion yesterday :) [09:57] happy to see the new lock screen landed, so we can focus on bugfixing [09:57] pitti, nice to read [09:58] pitti, I've a difficult time to put myself in postLTS mindset for that vUDS, still trying to get the LTS in shape :/ [09:58] seb128: yeah, me too [09:58] timing is not great [09:58] it feels like we are still in the middle of the cycle [09:59] yeah, we are [09:59] well not "middle" [09:59] but we should work on getting the LTS solid atm [09:59] not stop everything to think about next cycle and discuss futur stuff for 3 days [09:59] ok, off to some sponsoring [09:59] oh well, some of the discussions are good to have [10:00] pitti, enjoy! [10:00] wroooooooom! [10:00] queue to 37, that's reasonable [10:00] and most of it < 1 week, indeed [10:01] let's see how much I can churn through today [10:01] yeah, I spend my monday afternoon on it [10:01] there are still some easy ones in there I think === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:28] larsu: quick question, does the desktop_lockscreen mode do the same as the greeter_mode that indicators had before (or maybe still have)? [10:29] ochosi: apparently some indicators will have different controls on the lock screen than on the greeter [10:29] most of them will be the same, though [10:30] right, so what's the diff with -power? [10:30] (with -sound, i can imagine you'd have playback controls in the lockscreen, but not in the greeter?) [10:30] that's what I thought, but apparently not: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1291086/comments/3 [10:30] Launchpad bug 1291086 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Should only list running players in the greeter" [High,New] [10:31] ochosi: I don't know about -power [10:31] ah, i see [10:31] weird [10:31] ok, i'll just wait and see what you guys do and then decide what to do with lightdm-gtk-greeter [10:32] (for us greeter=lockscreen) [10:32] yeah [10:32] tbh, I'm not entirely happy with that distinction [10:32] what would you do? [10:33] I don't have a better solution, which is why I gave in to Trevinho and added the lockscreen profile [10:33] ideally, lock screen and greeter would be the same thing [10:33] but there are some edge cases where that doesn't work [10:34] like, all user-related things, since the greeter is running in its own session [10:35] yeah [10:35] it's not really easy [10:35] finding a sane policy for that [10:36] especially cause locking the screen is more common for some devices (phones/tablets) than others (desktops @home) [10:36] right [10:37] anyway, thanks for the heads up larsu [10:37] no problem! [10:49] mlankhorst, is that a known issue (happens when running unity-control-center under valgrind) [10:49] ==1528== Invalid read of size 1 [10:49] ==1528== at 0x402D9BA: strcmp (in /usr/lib/valgrind/vgpreload_memcheck-x86-linux.so) [10:49] ==1528== by 0x9676E1D: stub_find_dynamic (in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0.0.0) [10:49] ==1528== by 0x96769AB: ??? (in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0.0.0) [10:49] ==1528== by 0x9676C3C: _glapi_get_proc_address (in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0.0.0) [10:49] ==1528== by 0x9628826: glXGetProcAddress (in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1.2.0) [10:51] not that I'm aware of? [10:58] do you get those as well? [11:07] sec I was doing bug handling all morning, let me try :-) [11:12] seb128: with some looking at valgrind it claims to be freed in cogl_feature_check :/ [11:14] hm might be bogus though, I'll try more aggressive options for valgrind [11:15] mlankhorst, hum, it might be https://git.gnome.org/browse/cogl/commit/?h=cogl-1.16&id=fc4f882db70960c615fb8c211ef7d6612a3e2118 [11:15] or not [11:19] weird stuff [11:19] oh right, glapi is innocent here, bug is in libcogl [11:21] so it's not a mesa bug afaict, it's because glxGetProcAddress was called with a free'd argument [11:40] * mdeslaur <3 new lock screen :) [11:44] hey guys, new lock screen looks really nice === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [12:30] rickspencer3, hey, thanks, kudos to andyrock and Trevinho [12:30] hey seb128 [12:31] seb128, nice that all these updates are landing so cleanly [12:31] you can hardly tell that major updates are happening, everything "just works" when I dist-upgrade :) [12:31] rickspencer3, yeah, though a bit later in the cycle that we would have preferred, but we should be done with changes now [12:32] seb128, you know what I think ... so long as it's ready to land, land it :) [12:32] ;-) [12:32] better land it late and right, than land it early with regressions [12:32] fix it before you land it [12:33] blah blah blah, etc... etc... etc... [12:33] +1000 [12:33] (just saying) === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [12:36] yeah, better to land early without regressions though :p [12:36] what, having your cake and eating it too?! ;-) [12:37] seb128: coffee with my cake please :) [12:37] didrocks, ;-) [12:37] * didrocks is serious… and waiting! [12:37] :) [12:38] didrocks, it's UDS, just go to the table in the conference area, they have the coffee and cake [12:38] * didrocks looks around and feels something is wrong… but not sure what… :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:05] good morning all [13:06] virtual cake! [13:06] desrt, good morning to you! [13:06] desrt, I saw you got a patch up for your gsettings bug, nice ;-) [13:06] ya [13:06] i'm not happy about it [13:06] but i spent like a week trying to do it 'the right way' [13:06] and ended up with a patch that has no earthly chance of getting merged a week before hard code freeze [13:07] no rewriting of gobject before release! [13:07] or glib [13:07] both ! [13:07] in virt-manager, the global menus stopped working. They are shown (File, edit, etc.) but i can't open anyone of them. [13:07] how / where should I report this? [13:08] xnox, do you use the local integrate menu? [13:08] xnox: works for me [13:08] *cough* [13:08] seb128: i have local integrated menus in gnome-terminal. [13:09] seb128: in any case, timely testing is very much appreciated [13:09] xnox, that was not the question [13:09] seb128: however, i don't think that works with virt-manager, since that grabs focus into inside the virtual-machine. [13:09] xnox: it uses unity-gtk-module, so file a bug against that please (or talk to attente) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [13:09] seb128: how do i verify to answer your question? [13:09] xnox, system settings -> appearence -> behaviour [13:10] the "show menu in" option [13:10] it says in the menu bar. [13:10] k, so in the panel like before [13:10] and what's the issue? are the menu items there but not doing anything? [13:11] hm, something is very odd, let me restart my session. [13:12] desrt, do you feel confident enough in the patch to have it pushed to trusty? (that's the best way to get feedback) [13:12] desrt, well, I'm going to test it locally before anyway, but still working for me doesn't mean it's a good idea to push it to trusty ;-) [13:12] seb128: if it works for you, push it [13:12] if not, talk to me : [13:12] :) [13:12] k [13:13] you can sure count on that ;-) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:21] hello desktop! [13:21] chrisccoulson: hihi [13:22] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? [13:22] hi desrt, seb128 [13:22] seb128, yeah, good thanks. mostly avoided UDS so far ;) [13:23] haha [13:23] chrisccoulson, I'm sure you are going to have at least one session (I saw webbrowser for touch on the schedule) [13:23] * chrisccoulson hides [13:25] seb128, i can't have any more work assigned to me ;) [13:26] chrisccoulson, you sure can, let me show you! [13:26] * seb128 assigns bugs to chrisccoulson [13:26] lol [13:26] i'll just assign them back to you ;) [13:26] chrisccoulson, joke aside, I hope you fix that firefox url handling issue before release, or I'm going to upload the apturl config hack ;-) [13:27] chrisccoulson, that's where you regret you never code upload rights out of firefox set ;-) [13:32] seb128, firefox needs fixing properly. can't you get the firefox maintainer to do that? ;) [13:32] chrisccoulson, see, you just got more work assigned, and by yourself! ;-) [13:33] lol [13:33] i haven't spent more than 5 minutes on firefox in the last month or so [13:45] xnox: FYI, I now see your virt-manager issue too === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:47] xnox, mdeslaur: when did that start? what happens exactly, the menus are there but not doing anything? [13:48] seb128: yeah, you click on them and nothing happens, the menus don't open [13:49] not sure when it started, as I don't use them often [13:49] does it work with e.g alt-f ? [13:49] seb128: alt-f, triggers hud on alt, and that's the only way i can run any of the menu items [13:49] when the vm is powered off, the menu items display, with a lot of them inactive...when you power on the vm, they won't appear anymore [13:49] seb128: alt-space does work. [13:50] seb128: alt-f doesn't work [13:50] bug #1291370 [13:50] Launchpad bug 1291370 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "in virtual-manager, the global-menu or local integrated menus stopped working in the vm-display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291370 [13:50] I think it's when virt-manager tries to make certain menu items active, something goes wrong [13:50] has screenshot. [13:50] no way to open up file, virtual machine, view, send key. [13:51] it of course works well with UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0, so it's not virt-manager itself [13:52] mdeslaur: well - virt-manager is the last python2 gobject application we use?! [13:52] =) [13:53] this sounds like a unity issue to me [13:53] xnox: quite possibly :) [13:53] mdeslaur: larsu: propose adding it to blacklist? it's not _that_ popular app. [13:53] xnox: uhm, no. this is a new bug [13:54] xnox: you're right! I can also not click the menu items in your screenshot [13:54] xnox: something is busted somewhere [13:55] global menu in gtk2 is a patch, right? [13:55] oh, it's a plugin, huh [13:55] larsu: lol =) [13:56] I'll try reverting unity-gtk-module this afternoon [14:00] hm, i only have unity going from 20140305 -> 0311. I'll check if that's where the regression happened. [14:13] seb128, xnox: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-wallpapers/14_04_wallpapers/+merge/210616 [14:14] kenvandine: excellent, let me review that. I'd like to learn ubuntu-wallpapers packaging. [14:15] i'm hearing rick =) [14:15] me too :) [14:15] best hangout ever! =) [14:15] haha [14:15] wrong channel as well =) [14:15] kenvandine: but oh well ;-) [14:15] (above is about #ubuntu-uds-core-1) [14:16] at least someone here knew what you were talking about [14:17] hangout, technology for the futur :p [14:18] seb128: technology of back to the future =) [14:24] xnox, i just pushed another revision to that branch, the upstream version was still 13.04... i guess it's time to update that :) [14:29] kenvandine: good. =) [14:29] guess we missed that for 13.10 [14:30] with daily release updating the versions for us, it's easy to miss [14:30] 13.04.0+13.10..... is confusing :) [14:42] alesage, i'm getting CI failures that look like jenkins problems [14:42] hudson.util.IOException2: remote file operation failed: /iSCSI/storage/jenkins/workspace/ubuntu-wallpapers-trusty-amd64-ci at hudson.remoting.Channel@7ae9b86f:genie [14:42] MR is https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-wallpapers/14_04_wallpapers/+merge/210616 [14:42] alesage, ^^ [14:42] kenvandine, I'll look into, remedy will probably come from CI though [14:42] kenvandine, also hi :) [14:43] alesage, hello :) [14:45] kenvandine, btw I'll be helping with content-hub QA, we should chat about at some point [14:46] bah, xorg bugs are exploding :o [14:46] boom! [14:46] alesage, sweet! [14:47] alesage, yes lets talk soon [15:06] seb128: c'est l'heure de la glace maintenant ! [15:09] seb128: nothing to sponsor any more, job done, time for ice and UDS :) [15:12] pitti, good job! enjoy [15:24] --keep-stacktraces=alloc-and-free is my new favorite valgrind option <3 [15:24] what does it do? === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:29] guessing it keeps the alloc stacktrace for freed memory too [15:29] i can't boot my machine... i keep getting "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present" under plymouth :( [15:30] attente, try asking on #ubuntu-devel [15:30] or maybe xnox can help there === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox === eeejay` is now known as eeejay === alan_g is now known as alan_g|walk [19:33] mterry, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-greeter/double-authenticate/+merge/210529? [19:33] robert_ancell, yes... haven't gotten to it. But now is actually a good time [19:33] fginther, is jenkins asleep? https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/lightdm/guest-session-type/+merge/210540 [19:35] robert_ancell, I assume you tested this? Code itself looks fine [19:35] mterry, yeah, works here [19:35] robert_ancell, approved! [19:35] mterry, ta! [19:37] robert_ancell, the MP is approved, as a result jenkins will ignore it (this is a consequence of moving to ci-train for merging). If it's set back to needs review, jenkins will test it. [19:37] fginther, we're not on the ci-train unless someone changed something yesterday [19:38] fginther, is there a list of projects on the ci-train somewhere? [19:39] robert_ancell, I saw an MP in the last day or two indicating that everything trusty should be on ci-train now. looking for it [19:40] robert_ancell, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/cupstream2distro-config/ci-train-everywhere/+merge/210314 [19:41] robert_ancell, for the official list of projects on ci-train: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdC05a2ZQSmgwU2NFYnJQOE9qMDRYa3c&usp=drive_web#gid=1 [19:41] humf [19:46] seb128, where is the CI train documentation? [19:46] robert_ancell, there is none [19:46] awesome [19:46] where is the ci train magic spreadsheet? [19:46] robert_ancell, it's ongoing work/moving parts and didrocks said he had spent quite some time previously on documentation the workflow than nobody was reading [19:47] robert_ancell, https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFlCc1VzeVZzWmdBZS11WERjdVc3dmc#gid=0 [19:47] if you look for the list of landings in the queue [19:47] robert_ancell, https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdC05a2ZQSmgwU2NFYnJQOE9qMDRYa3c&usp=drive_web#gid=1 if you want the list of projects and their landers [19:47] what's the real question/issue? [19:48] e.g do you try to get something added to it, or to be lander for something, or to get something to land? [19:48] seb128, apparently lightdm is on the train now and I've got some MPs I need to land [19:48] weird [19:48] that seems backward [19:48] but I think didrocks said they want to close the infra for non CI train [19:49] seb128, fginther says https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/cupstream2distro-config/ci-train-everywhere/+merge/210314 is the cause [19:49] not sure if that is correct or not [19:49] likely, they said they want to stop having to maintain 2 infras [19:49] which makes sense [19:49] I can't edit that spreadsheet [19:49] but the way they are doing it might be suboptimal [19:50] right, you didn't get landing training/got added to that group [19:50] but the landing process is reversed [19:50] e.g you need to upload to Ubuntu first and then it gets to trunk [19:50] it's fine for touch, but I'm not sure that you are going to like that for lightdm [19:51] no, that makes absolutely no sense here [19:51] if not I guess you can commit manually to your trunk and argue with didrocks&co later [19:51] I'm just going to manually upload it [19:51] yeah [19:51] But I kind of wanted Jenkins to do the checks for me [19:51] I think that should still be possible, but check with fginther [19:52] looks like something we should provide to any upstream wanting to help us improve quality [19:52] them being in touch landing or not [19:52] seb128, what about unity-greeter? Guess I should do that manually too? [19:52] that seems like more Ubuntu/Unity specific [19:52] I would be happy to have it in CI train, the process is ok [19:53] that codebase will be dead next cycle anyway, so not really worth getting it up to scratch [19:53] you list merge requests, that gives you a ppa to test built with trunk+those, if you hack that uploads to the archive/merge to trunk [19:53] there is nothing to get up to scratch [19:53] they put lightdm in there :p [19:53] I mean you don't have any pre-require on tests or anything [19:53] seb128, but neither lightdm or u-g are automatically uploaded to the archive, they are both manually done [19:54] well, you could decide that from now u-g follows the same landing than most of our stuff [19:54] e.g no release, CI train [19:54] that's what we had before right? [19:54] e.g somebody lists merge requests, press the button and things get merged/uploaded, iterate as often as needed [19:55] no, before we had automerge and regular uploads [19:55] now it's the other way around, with a manual "that component can land" from the people checking the image in between [19:55] e.g you say "I've those 3 changes to land, please give me a silo" [19:56] they give you a "slot", which basically means you click a button and get a ppa with the debs of trunk+ [19:56] you test that, if happy you press the upload button, which uploads for you [19:56] once it's in ubuntu proper (out of proposed) you press the merge/clean button which merges to trunk and clean the ppa you had [19:57] in practice it's quite nice, the only real work you have to do is list merge requests in order [19:57] but you get a ppa for free, which includes armhf, which is nice for testing before uploading [20:00] seb128, regarding the face images - we should just drop support for user images from the GUI because that's confusing [20:00] seb128, actually I can't even find the controls to change the image, where are they? [20:01] ah, I found it [20:01] robert_ancell, click on your image? === FJKong is now known as FJKong_afk [20:01] I was clicking the one on the left [20:01] well, I don't find them confusing, I picked an icon for each ones of my users [20:01] that doesn't get used anywhere else in the gui [20:01] they are not very fancy but that's better than all the default icon [20:01] it does [20:02] I mean drop all the icons [20:02] oh, where else? [20:02] on the session menu [20:02] indicator-session [20:02] oh, I assumed that was a fixed icon [20:02] the list of users has their icons [20:03] seb128, we should get a set of those face icons from design and ship those with u-c-c then [20:03] the orange ones [20:03] anyone from design awake? [20:04] I doubt it, they are in London for most of them and don't work in evenings [20:04] open a bug, I can ping around tomorrow [20:04] will do [20:04] but otherwise if we think it's not import we can drop the feature, I would be happy to build u-c-c without cheese [20:04] seb128, is the "ping design" thing still open task on ayatanna-design? [20:04] I'd just drop it [20:05] the most bugs we report is user account failing to load due to cogl/clutter issues coming through cheese [20:05] yeah, open a bug and add ayatana-design [20:05] robert_ancell, ok, open a bug, I'm going to follow up on it tomorrow [20:05] on that note I need to go [20:05] bye [20:06] night (or good day to you .au/.nz) === jibel_ is now known as jibel === Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois