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=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-hallway to: Track: Cloud & Server | Making networking more consistant and robus | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22226/making-networking-more-consistant-and-robus/ | ||
gQuigs | hangout link? | 13:52 |
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ritz_ | auto load form the page | 13:53 |
ritz_ | from | 13:54 |
gQuigs | ritz_: we need a different link to join the hangout, unless I'm missing something | 13:55 |
ritz_ | gQuigs, my bad | 13:55 |
* ritz_ check the invite | 13:55 | |
gQuigs | nope.. | 13:57 |
rbasak | May I join the hangout please? | 13:57 |
rbasak | Need an invite | 13:57 |
ritz_ | missing | 13:57 |
gQuigs | rbasak: ditto... can the track lead start one please? | 13:58 |
* rbasak has asked gaughen | 13:58 | |
rbasak | I'm not sure who the lead is. | 13:58 |
rbasak | gaughen is starting it now | 13:59 |
gQuigs | thanks rbasak! | 13:59 |
rbasak | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdYoxuDm-DDnqii8SncLHhHIpdOCgL03hnYM2r9XucyUFuOVA?authuser=0&hl=en | 14:01 |
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gQuigs | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdYoxuDm-DDnqii8SncLHhHIpdOCgL03hnYM2r9XucyUFuOVA?authuser=0&hl=en | 14:03 |
gQuigs | please join hangout > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdYoxuDm-DDnqii8SncLHhHIpdOCgL03hnYM2r9XucyUFuOVA?authuser=0&hl=en | 14:04 |
ritz_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1403-networking | 14:04 |
gQuigs | please join hangout > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdYoxuDm-DDnqii8SncLHhHIpdOCgL03hnYM2r9XucyUFuOVA?authuser=0&hl=en | 14:05 |
gaughen | we'll start in 2 minutes | 14:05 |
ritz_ | am I audible ? | 14:06 |
beisner | o/ | 14:07 |
pmatulis3 | says 'starting soon...' | 14:08 |
ritz_ | pmatulis3, hi | 14:08 |
rbasak | Live now | 14:08 |
pmatulis3 | ritz_: hey | 14:08 |
rbasak | Please refresh etc, and let us know if you see the stream? | 14:08 |
pmatulis3 | yes | 14:08 |
rbasak | Thanks! | 14:08 |
alexmoldovan | yes | 14:09 |
ritz_ | alexmoldovan, hi | 14:09 |
ritz_ | nice article , about juju | 14:09 |
caribou_ | gaughen: no echo on this side | 14:09 |
alexmoldovan | hi ritz_ | 14:09 |
gaughen | caribou_, thanks. yeah, it was me and it was loud in my ear.. .which is probably pretty clear by the face I made. | 14:10 |
ritz_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifenslave/+bug/1254120 | 14:12 |
udsbotu | Launchpad bug 1254120 in ifenslave (Ubuntu) "Bonded interfaces don't come down with a ifdown -a" [Undecided,New] | 14:12 |
ritz_ | the bug in question | 14:12 |
ritz_ | avoid nm this cycle | 14:13 |
ritz_ | a bit late | 14:13 |
ritz_ | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ | 14:20 |
ritz_ | implementing consistent name would be helpful | 14:20 |
ritz_ | we lack this | 14:21 |
rbasak | ritz_: how does this fit in with the existing udev rule that locks interface names in? | 14:22 |
rbasak | ritz_: there's also the biosdevname stuff | 14:22 |
ritz_ | locks the name in ? I tend to see eth interface changes | 14:23 |
ritz_ | Will retest this bit | 14:23 |
caribou_ | naming is one thing : having 8 NICs that DO NOT restart on a deterministic scheme upon each reboot is an issue | 14:23 |
caribou_ | gaughen: I'm not even sure that we have one single coherent description of how /etc/network/interfaces should be formatted to behave correctly | 14:25 |
rbasak | ritz_: if you see interface name changes, then probably best start with figuring out why the udev rules don't lock in - that could just be a bug or configuration issue | 14:28 |
rbasak | (rather than a blueprint-level design issue) | 14:28 |
ritz_ | rbasak, yup, will recheck what I did wrong. | 14:29 |
ritz_ | still under works, networkd | 14:32 |
ritz_ | so the issue is with puppet trying to manage n/w ? | 14:39 |
smoser | what rbasak is saying right now i like. | 14:39 |
smoser | i have the same need elsewhere | 14:39 |
rbasak | smoser: which bit? | 14:39 |
smoser | some tool that figures out what changed in networking and makes it right. | 14:40 |
smoser | we need that in cloud-init. | 14:40 |
smoser | right now if networking information is intjected into the instance, then cloud-init will have to figure out what was added and what would have to be "fixed". | 14:40 |
smoser | and at that point some network interfaces may already be up. | 14:40 |
jamespage | rbasak, I think you can do a udevadm trigger todo that | 14:41 |
jamespage | maybe | 14:41 |
jamespage | (I've certainly seen that done with disks) | 14:41 |
smoser | its also terribly annoying that: | 14:43 |
smoser | ifup some-interface | 14:43 |
smoser | change something | 14:43 |
smoser | ifdown that-interface | 14:43 |
smoser | (possibly change == remove that-interface) | 14:43 |
smoser | ifdown says "i don tknow anything about that" | 14:43 |
ritz_ | networkd is for much more limited use cases | 14:53 |
ritz_ | migrating more towards NM | 14:53 |
jamespage | \o/ love that one | 14:54 |
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pmatulis3 | so how do i restart networking? j/k | 14:56 |
rbasak | Thanks all! | 14:56 |
gQuigs | stgraber: can I add a Work item to document the current QA items | 15:02 |
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