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mrgoodca1so much netsplit01:21
rick_h_yea, no love02:50
cmaloneyevening02:55
cmaloneyand all that.02:55
rick_h_party02:56
jrwrenUDS midnight party!03:53
rick_h_woot woot03:56
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wolfgergood morning, party people10:39
wolfgerSo what is this I hear about Google dumping Gtk+ for something called Aura? Is Aura used anywhere by anybody?10:45
rick_h_morning and no idea about aura10:52
rick_h_wooooo! fun driving11:50
cmaloneyGood morning12:45
rick_h_morn12:45
cmaloneyacc to /. it's Google's own widget library12:46
cmaloneyhttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/Zpu9801pPRc12:47
cmaloneyrick_h_: I think you're soaking in it already.12:47
rick_h_soaking in it?12:47
cmaloneyIt's part of unstable12:47
rick_h_oh yea12:47
cmaloneywhich means you've likely already downloaded it12:47
rick_h_that explains why there's all the small changes heh12:48
cmaloney;)12:48
rick_h_I lost things like 'right-click search in google'12:48
cmaloneyugh12:49
rick_h_reminder CHC is tonight all. Snow or now snow (roads should be cleared by tonight)13:06
rick_h_cmaloney: let me know if you need a lift :)13:06
brouschIt's still snowing here13:06
rick_h_yea, supposed to stop by noonish13:07
rick_h_at least here13:07
cmaloneyrick_h_: Heh. Will do. :)13:13
cmaloneyMight take you up on that, but I need to stop by the library prior to CHC13:14
rick_h_oh no, it's so out of our way :P13:15
cmaloneyhah13:15
mrgoodcat8pm?14:18
cmaloneyCHC?14:19
cmaloneyYep14:19
mrgoodcatcool14:20
mrgoodcatrick_h_: still on to help with that test at chc?14:20
rick_h_mrgoodcat: yep14:24
jcastroit is snowing sideways here14:52
brouschjcastro: Get out of bed and you'll fix that14:52
rick_h_yea, winds are supposed to be crazy today14:53
DrDaemonEye15 MPH gusting to 3514:53
jrwrenhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22152/server-databases-update/  server database updates!!! <315:07
jrwrenbah! I missed hte juju core updates meeting?15:10
jrwreni'l watch it.15:11
brouschSome of you might be interested in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/grpug/8gIYwUhc3Es15:16
jrwrendid they move from Chelsea to GR?15:18
brouschNo15:18
brouschBut 2 or 3 of them are in West MI15:19
jrwrendude, uvtool is SWEET16:56
rick_h_wow, this wind and blowing snow is crazy17:07
greg-git's 64 right now, a high of 75 today17:08
rick_h_:P17:08
* greg-g is wearing shorts17:09
jrwrenyou can't fool me. I know where you live.17:10
jrwreni heard the devil wears shorts in hell too!17:10
greg-gI live near Kyle R, and have yet to get a beer with him, I still feel bad about that17:11
jrwrenyeah, its too bad. Kyle is a great guy. tell him I said hi.17:11
greg-gwill do17:11
greg-gI think he commutes every day, so it's the becomes the "align your two family's weekends for some overlap"17:12
wolfgerIt's days like today where I think "my job doesn't make me travel often enough". :-p17:25
* wolfger could go for some 77 degree weather in Mexico right about now17:26
cmaloneyheh17:28
rick_h_I was just fine with 40 and good cool spring17:29
rick_h_though the roads that got exposed below the snow and ice are destroyed this winter17:29
rick_h_normally we've got one big pot hole in our rd in front of the house. We've got 5 and one my son could use as a fort17:29
mrgoodcatwolfger: i'm gonna be in texas at the end of the month. can't wait18:39
mrgoodcat.test18:42
mrgoodcatshit wrong channel18:42
mrgoodcatsry18:42
brousch.tickle18:42
rick_h_.tackle18:42
wolfgerSaw a pic a few minutes ago of a yugo-sized pothole in RO that they are calling a sinkhole.19:05
rick_h_lol19:05
rick_h_yea, going to MUG last night the right lane was almost empty with everyone trying to get left19:06
rick_h_so many killer stretches in the right lane19:06
wolfgerI love my new work-from-home-ability. I have driven further than 2 miles maybe 6 times in the last 7-8 weeks. It's nice.19:08
akellinghttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/ubuntu-smartphones-will-cost-200-400/ - hope someone here gets one of these. WOuld like to take a look at it.19:58
akellingCarpenter Rd in Ann Arbor is just shot on the right hand lane both ways. I have driven in smoother fields.20:00
brouschI'm sure they'll hand them out to all Canonical employees20:01
jrwrenakelling: you are in ann arbor?!?20:01
wolfgerThe problem with that phone would be the apps... Why would I buy a phone that probably can't run the apps I currently use, and may or may not have suitable equivalencies?20:02
jrwrenwolfger: that is the same argument folks made about moving off windows.20:03
akellingindeed apps wpi;d ne am ossie20:03
jrwrenwe now know that apple has been winning that.20:03
akellingwould be an issue*20:03
jrwrenget twitter app and evernote and I'd move.20:03
akellingWindows Phone is having a hell of a time breaking into the market and they have a multibillion dollar company pushing it20:04
jrwrenapple lock in is worse than windows was IMO.  facetime and imessages are very proprietary20:04
jrwrenwindows phone is pretty big outside of the US20:04
wolfgerbah. I'm talking Android apps, forget Apple20:04
jrwrenneed untapd20:04
greg-gheh20:04
jrwrenandroid? what is that?20:04
jrwrenoh icloud, i'm all in with apple. :(20:05
wolfgerdo love my ipad air, but I never would have bought one for myself and I still hate the parts of the iPad that remind me it's an apple product20:05
jrwrenwolfger: ha!20:06
jrwrenwolfger: if you had a mac and an iphone that ipad air would work even better!20:06
wolfgerhehehe20:06
wolfgerI guess I'll just suffer, then20:06
mrgoodcatrick_h_: just stumbled on your juju gui client. i have to say it looks quite impressive20:19
rick_h_mrgoodcat: :)20:19
mrgoodcatis that project for work or outside?20:20
mrgoodcatas in, is it funded by canonical?20:20
rick_h_yea, it's the team I work with20:20
mrgoodcatgot it20:20
rick_h_you mean jujucharms.com right?20:20
mrgoodcatyea20:20
mrgoodcatis the demo just user interface or is it actually functional?20:21
rick_h_so jujucharms.com is a demo, but it's the same software you can deploy into a juju environment to control your real AWS/HPCloud/Azure juju environments20:21
mrgoodcatbut the demo isn't actually functional. it isn't actually spinning up services right?20:21
rick_h_right20:21
mrgoodcatok. at first that didn't click in my brain and i was wondering how much it costs to host a demo of a cluster but then i realized it must be just the UI20:22
rick_h_yea, we have a fake mock state backend20:22
mrgoodcathow far is it from release?20:23
rick_h_mrgoodcat: how far is what from release?20:31
mrgoodcataren't you trying to get it in the repos?20:32
rick_h_oh, that's juju-quickstart20:32
rick_h_http://www.jorgecastro.org/2014/01/29/juju-quickstart-coming-along/20:32
mrgoodcati got it. so juju gui is as "released" as its ever getting. easy install with a charm and pretty polished and professional and fully functioning21:37
mrgoodcatthere isn't any more to release21:37
gamerchick02bah. everyone was let off early today. i stayed til 5 because i didn't get in til 10:3022:04
mrgoodcatlol staying at work till 522:04
mrgoodcati've done that like twice this calendar year22:05
mrgoodcatmostly because we close up shop at 430 most days22:05
gamerchick02well i usually do too but i got in at 10:3022:06
gamerchick02had my meeting last night and took me 3 hours to drive from Saginaw22:06
mrgoodcatah22:06
mrgoodcati usually work 9-415 ish22:06
gamerchick02wait what22:06
mrgoodcat845-41522:07
gamerchick027:30 to 4:30...22:07
gamerchick02how'd you get awesomesauce hours? :-P22:07
mrgoodcatsmall family owned industrial company22:08
mrgoodcatno reason to go there early because most of our customers don't even want to hear from us until after noon22:08
mrgoodcatand metalworking industry generally closes up shop early. production goes all night but any decision making departments close down22:08
mrgoodcatsales reps are on call 24-7 though on their cell phones since we have customers around the world22:09
gamerchick02wow22:10
gamerchick02nice22:10
mrgoodcatyea22:10
gamerchick02Chrysler. we work pretty much 7:30-4:30, some flex early, some flex late.22:10
mrgoodcatits not as great as it sounds22:10
gamerchick02hah22:10
gamerchick02ok22:10
gamerchick02and usually if you get your work done it's no big deal if you need to leave early but i did legit have some stuff to do. glad the last assignment came in late (bout 2).22:11
mrgoodcatour industry is a very slow moving one22:11
mrgoodcatproduct development goes over the course of decades22:12
mrgoodcatso its rare we ever have crisis situations of any kind22:12
mrgoodcatwe work in industrial coolants and lubricants22:12
gamerchick02decades?22:14
gamerchick02but coolants and lube is cool. worked with my share of that at school and somewhat at Dow when i was a slave i mean co-op.22:14
mrgoodcatyea decades22:15
mrgoodcatand our company is considered to be on the forefront22:15
gamerchick02our stuff changes weekly so i don't know how i'd handle slow change like that22:17
mrgoodcatwell i don't work with our chemical products at all. I'm all computers so it's not so bad22:17
gamerchick02not too bad at all. :)22:17
mrgoodcatwe make machines to apply the chemicals in very specific applications and that is actually really engaging22:18
mrgoodcatevery piece of equipment is custom built to order22:18
gamerchick02oooo22:19
gamerchick02so that's pretty awesopme22:19
gamerchick02awesome even22:19
mrgoodcatso yea, short hours22:20
gamerchick02do they need a mechanical engineer who's interested in that kinda thing?22:21
gamerchick02:-P22:21
gamerchick02and where are you located?22:21
mrgoodcatsome people are there as early as 7 and some as late as 6 but generally most people have short hours22:21
mrgoodcatdetroit22:21
gamerchick02ah22:21
mrgoodcathazel park actually22:21
gamerchick02hrm22:21
gamerchick02pay well and everyone's direct, no contract workers?22:22
gamerchick02the reason i ask is because i'm contract now and i'd like to get direct with a company.22:22
mrgoodcatno contract. i'd be surprised if we'd be able to offer a mechanical engineer a job that would be worth taking. nothing really degree worthy. custom built units don't really require much design. just adaptions of existing design22:23
mrgoodcatno contract. no union.22:23
gamerchick02oh22:23
gamerchick02ok22:24
mrgoodcati could ask if you want. my dad and uncle actually own the company22:24
gamerchick02ah22:25
gamerchick02i've got adhesives experience from Dow Automotive, releasing/CN/BoM/Change Management on steering columns from Delphi (now Nexteer), and vehicle configuration/IT/herding engineers and analysts at Chrysler.22:26
gamerchick02also bug reporting at Chrysler on systems that go down all the time. :-P22:26
mrgoodcatlots of auto experience22:26
mrgoodcatany particular reason so much automotive?22:27
gamerchick02yeah. it's kind of a given. graduated from kettering, from MI, it was available.22:27
mrgoodcatmakes sense22:27
gamerchick02yeah22:28
gamerchick02cars are big here. :-P22:29
gamerchick02i wouldn't mind getting out of it but i don't mind working in it either22:29
mrgoodcattime for dinner22:32
gamerchick02i just did that. :)22:33
cmaloneyHowdy.23:13
gamerchick02howdy :)23:43
DrDaemonEyewelcome gamerchick0223:52
gamerchick02danke!23:52
DrDaemonEyeHow are you this evening?23:52
gamerchick02good23:52
gamerchick02tired23:53
gamerchick02been a long day23:53
DrDaemonEyeaww.  I feel ya there23:53
gamerchick02i'm going to bed early tonight.23:59
gamerchick02had a late one last night23:59

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