=== greg-g is now known as greg|gregpush === greg|gregpush is now known as greg-g [01:21] so much netsplit [02:50] yea, no love [02:55] evening [02:55] and all that. [02:56] party [03:53] UDS midnight party! [03:56] woot woot === mrgoodca1 is now known as mrgoodcat [10:39] good morning, party people [10:45] So what is this I hear about Google dumping Gtk+ for something called Aura? Is Aura used anywhere by anybody? [10:52] morning and no idea about aura [11:50] wooooo! fun driving [12:45] Good morning [12:45] morn [12:46] acc to /. it's Google's own widget library [12:47] https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/Zpu9801pPRc [12:47] rick_h_: I think you're soaking in it already. [12:47] soaking in it? [12:47] It's part of unstable [12:47] oh yea [12:47] which means you've likely already downloaded it [12:48] that explains why there's all the small changes heh [12:48] ;) [12:48] I lost things like 'right-click search in google' [12:49] ugh [13:06] reminder CHC is tonight all. Snow or now snow (roads should be cleared by tonight) [13:06] cmaloney: let me know if you need a lift :) [13:06] It's still snowing here [13:07] yea, supposed to stop by noonish [13:07] at least here [13:13] rick_h_: Heh. Will do. :) [13:14] Might take you up on that, but I need to stop by the library prior to CHC [13:15] oh no, it's so out of our way :P [13:15] hah [14:18] 8pm? [14:19] CHC? [14:19] Yep [14:20] cool [14:20] rick_h_: still on to help with that test at chc? [14:24] mrgoodcat: yep [14:52] it is snowing sideways here [14:52] jcastro: Get out of bed and you'll fix that [14:53] yea, winds are supposed to be crazy today [14:53] 15 MPH gusting to 35 [15:07] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22152/server-databases-update/ server database updates!!! <3 [15:10] bah! I missed hte juju core updates meeting? [15:11] i'l watch it. [15:16] Some of you might be interested in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/grpug/8gIYwUhc3Es [15:18] did they move from Chelsea to GR? [15:18] No [15:19] But 2 or 3 of them are in West MI [16:56] dude, uvtool is SWEET [17:07] wow, this wind and blowing snow is crazy [17:08] it's 64 right now, a high of 75 today [17:08] :P [17:09] * greg-g is wearing shorts [17:10] you can't fool me. I know where you live. [17:10] i heard the devil wears shorts in hell too! [17:11] I live near Kyle R, and have yet to get a beer with him, I still feel bad about that [17:11] yeah, its too bad. Kyle is a great guy. tell him I said hi. [17:11] will do [17:12] I think he commutes every day, so it's the becomes the "align your two family's weekends for some overlap" [17:25] It's days like today where I think "my job doesn't make me travel often enough". :-p [17:26] * wolfger could go for some 77 degree weather in Mexico right about now [17:28] heh [17:29] I was just fine with 40 and good cool spring [17:29] though the roads that got exposed below the snow and ice are destroyed this winter [17:29] normally we've got one big pot hole in our rd in front of the house. We've got 5 and one my son could use as a fort [18:39] wolfger: i'm gonna be in texas at the end of the month. can't wait [18:42] .test [18:42] shit wrong channel [18:42] sry [18:42] .tickle [18:42] .tackle [19:05] Saw a pic a few minutes ago of a yugo-sized pothole in RO that they are calling a sinkhole. [19:05] lol [19:06] yea, going to MUG last night the right lane was almost empty with everyone trying to get left [19:06] so many killer stretches in the right lane [19:08] I love my new work-from-home-ability. I have driven further than 2 miles maybe 6 times in the last 7-8 weeks. It's nice. [19:58] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/ubuntu-smartphones-will-cost-200-400/ - hope someone here gets one of these. WOuld like to take a look at it. [20:00] Carpenter Rd in Ann Arbor is just shot on the right hand lane both ways. I have driven in smoother fields. [20:01] I'm sure they'll hand them out to all Canonical employees [20:01] akelling: you are in ann arbor?!? [20:02] The problem with that phone would be the apps... Why would I buy a phone that probably can't run the apps I currently use, and may or may not have suitable equivalencies? [20:03] wolfger: that is the same argument folks made about moving off windows. [20:03] indeed apps wpi;d ne am ossie [20:03] we now know that apple has been winning that. [20:03] would be an issue* [20:03] get twitter app and evernote and I'd move. [20:04] Windows Phone is having a hell of a time breaking into the market and they have a multibillion dollar company pushing it [20:04] apple lock in is worse than windows was IMO. facetime and imessages are very proprietary [20:04] windows phone is pretty big outside of the US [20:04] bah. I'm talking Android apps, forget Apple [20:04] need untapd [20:04] heh [20:04] android? what is that? [20:05] oh icloud, i'm all in with apple. :( [20:05] do love my ipad air, but I never would have bought one for myself and I still hate the parts of the iPad that remind me it's an apple product [20:06] wolfger: ha! [20:06] wolfger: if you had a mac and an iphone that ipad air would work even better! [20:06] hehehe [20:06] I guess I'll just suffer, then [20:19] rick_h_: just stumbled on your juju gui client. i have to say it looks quite impressive [20:19] mrgoodcat: :) [20:20] is that project for work or outside? [20:20] as in, is it funded by canonical? [20:20] yea, it's the team I work with [20:20] got it [20:20] you mean jujucharms.com right? [20:20] yea [20:21] is the demo just user interface or is it actually functional? [20:21] so jujucharms.com is a demo, but it's the same software you can deploy into a juju environment to control your real AWS/HPCloud/Azure juju environments [20:21] but the demo isn't actually functional. it isn't actually spinning up services right? [20:21] right [20:22] ok. at first that didn't click in my brain and i was wondering how much it costs to host a demo of a cluster but then i realized it must be just the UI [20:22] yea, we have a fake mock state backend [20:23] how far is it from release? [20:31] mrgoodcat: how far is what from release? [20:32] aren't you trying to get it in the repos? [20:32] oh, that's juju-quickstart [20:32] http://www.jorgecastro.org/2014/01/29/juju-quickstart-coming-along/ [21:37] i got it. so juju gui is as "released" as its ever getting. easy install with a charm and pretty polished and professional and fully functioning [21:37] there isn't any more to release [22:04] bah. everyone was let off early today. i stayed til 5 because i didn't get in til 10:30 [22:04] lol staying at work till 5 [22:05] i've done that like twice this calendar year [22:05] mostly because we close up shop at 430 most days [22:06] well i usually do too but i got in at 10:30 [22:06] had my meeting last night and took me 3 hours to drive from Saginaw [22:06] ah [22:06] i usually work 9-415 ish [22:06] wait what [22:07] 845-415 [22:07] 7:30 to 4:30... [22:07] how'd you get awesomesauce hours? :-P [22:08] small family owned industrial company [22:08] no reason to go there early because most of our customers don't even want to hear from us until after noon [22:08] and metalworking industry generally closes up shop early. production goes all night but any decision making departments close down [22:09] sales reps are on call 24-7 though on their cell phones since we have customers around the world [22:10] wow [22:10] nice [22:10] yea [22:10] Chrysler. we work pretty much 7:30-4:30, some flex early, some flex late. [22:10] its not as great as it sounds [22:10] hah [22:10] ok [22:11] and usually if you get your work done it's no big deal if you need to leave early but i did legit have some stuff to do. glad the last assignment came in late (bout 2). [22:11] our industry is a very slow moving one [22:12] product development goes over the course of decades [22:12] so its rare we ever have crisis situations of any kind [22:12] we work in industrial coolants and lubricants [22:14] decades? [22:14] but coolants and lube is cool. worked with my share of that at school and somewhat at Dow when i was a slave i mean co-op. [22:15] yea decades [22:15] and our company is considered to be on the forefront [22:17] our stuff changes weekly so i don't know how i'd handle slow change like that [22:17] well i don't work with our chemical products at all. I'm all computers so it's not so bad [22:17] not too bad at all. :) [22:18] we make machines to apply the chemicals in very specific applications and that is actually really engaging [22:18] every piece of equipment is custom built to order [22:19] oooo [22:19] so that's pretty awesopme [22:19] awesome even [22:20] so yea, short hours [22:21] do they need a mechanical engineer who's interested in that kinda thing? [22:21] :-P [22:21] and where are you located? [22:21] some people are there as early as 7 and some as late as 6 but generally most people have short hours [22:21] detroit [22:21] ah [22:21] hazel park actually [22:21] hrm [22:22] pay well and everyone's direct, no contract workers? [22:22] the reason i ask is because i'm contract now and i'd like to get direct with a company. [22:23] no contract. i'd be surprised if we'd be able to offer a mechanical engineer a job that would be worth taking. nothing really degree worthy. custom built units don't really require much design. just adaptions of existing design [22:23] no contract. no union. [22:23] oh [22:24] ok [22:24] i could ask if you want. my dad and uncle actually own the company [22:25] ah [22:26] i've got adhesives experience from Dow Automotive, releasing/CN/BoM/Change Management on steering columns from Delphi (now Nexteer), and vehicle configuration/IT/herding engineers and analysts at Chrysler. [22:26] also bug reporting at Chrysler on systems that go down all the time. :-P [22:26] lots of auto experience [22:27] any particular reason so much automotive? [22:27] yeah. it's kind of a given. graduated from kettering, from MI, it was available. [22:27] makes sense [22:28] yeah [22:29] cars are big here. :-P [22:29] i wouldn't mind getting out of it but i don't mind working in it either [22:32] time for dinner [22:33] i just did that. :) [23:13] Howdy. [23:43] howdy :) [23:52] welcome gamerchick02 [23:52] danke! [23:52] How are you this evening? [23:52] good [23:53] tired [23:53] been a long day [23:53] aww. I feel ya there [23:59] i'm going to bed early tonight. [23:59] had a late one last night