[01:21] <mrgoodca1> so much netsplit
[02:50] <rick_h_> yea, no love
[02:55] <cmaloney> evening
[02:55] <cmaloney> and all that.
[02:56] <rick_h_> party
[03:53] <jrwren> UDS midnight party!
[03:56] <rick_h_> woot woot
[10:39] <wolfger> good morning, party people
[10:45] <wolfger> So what is this I hear about Google dumping Gtk+ for something called Aura? Is Aura used anywhere by anybody?
[10:52] <rick_h_> morning and no idea about aura
[11:50] <rick_h_> wooooo! fun driving
[12:45] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:45] <rick_h_> morn
[12:46] <cmaloney> acc to /. it's Google's own widget library
[12:47] <cmaloney> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/Zpu9801pPRc
[12:47] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I think you're soaking in it already.
[12:47] <rick_h_> soaking in it?
[12:47] <cmaloney> It's part of unstable
[12:47] <rick_h_> oh yea
[12:47] <cmaloney> which means you've likely already downloaded it
[12:48] <rick_h_> that explains why there's all the small changes heh
[12:48] <cmaloney> ;)
[12:48] <rick_h_> I lost things like 'right-click search in google'
[12:49] <cmaloney> ugh
[13:06] <rick_h_> reminder CHC is tonight all. Snow or now snow (roads should be cleared by tonight)
[13:06] <rick_h_> cmaloney: let me know if you need a lift :)
[13:06] <brousch> It's still snowing here
[13:07] <rick_h_> yea, supposed to stop by noonish
[13:07] <rick_h_> at least here
[13:13] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Heh. Will do. :)
[13:14] <cmaloney> Might take you up on that, but I need to stop by the library prior to CHC
[13:15] <rick_h_> oh no, it's so out of our way :P
[13:15] <cmaloney> hah
[14:18] <mrgoodcat> 8pm?
[14:19] <cmaloney> CHC?
[14:19] <cmaloney> Yep
[14:20] <mrgoodcat> cool
[14:20] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: still on to help with that test at chc?
[14:24] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yep
[14:52] <jcastro> it is snowing sideways here
[14:52] <brousch> jcastro: Get out of bed and you'll fix that
[14:53] <rick_h_> yea, winds are supposed to be crazy today
[14:53] <DrDaemonEye> 15 MPH gusting to 35
[15:07] <jrwren> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22152/server-databases-update/  server database updates!!! <3
[15:10] <jrwren> bah! I missed hte juju core updates meeting?
[15:11] <jrwren> i'l watch it.
[15:16] <brousch> Some of you might be interested in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/grpug/8gIYwUhc3Es
[15:18] <jrwren> did they move from Chelsea to GR?
[15:18] <brousch> No
[15:19] <brousch> But 2 or 3 of them are in West MI
[16:56] <jrwren> dude, uvtool is SWEET
[17:07] <rick_h_> wow, this wind and blowing snow is crazy
[17:08] <greg-g> it's 64 right now, a high of 75 today
[17:08] <rick_h_> :P
[17:09]  * greg-g is wearing shorts
[17:10] <jrwren> you can't fool me. I know where you live.
[17:10] <jrwren> i heard the devil wears shorts in hell too!
[17:11] <greg-g> I live near Kyle R, and have yet to get a beer with him, I still feel bad about that
[17:11] <jrwren> yeah, its too bad. Kyle is a great guy. tell him I said hi.
[17:11] <greg-g> will do
[17:12] <greg-g> I think he commutes every day, so it's the becomes the "align your two family's weekends for some overlap"
[17:25] <wolfger> It's days like today where I think "my job doesn't make me travel often enough". :-p
[17:26]  * wolfger could go for some 77 degree weather in Mexico right about now
[17:28] <cmaloney> heh
[17:29] <rick_h_> I was just fine with 40 and good cool spring
[17:29] <rick_h_> though the roads that got exposed below the snow and ice are destroyed this winter
[17:29] <rick_h_> normally we've got one big pot hole in our rd in front of the house. We've got 5 and one my son could use as a fort
[18:39] <mrgoodcat> wolfger: i'm gonna be in texas at the end of the month. can't wait
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> .test
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> shit wrong channel
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> sry
[18:42] <brousch> .tickle
[18:42] <rick_h_> .tackle
[19:05] <wolfger> Saw a pic a few minutes ago of a yugo-sized pothole in RO that they are calling a sinkhole.
[19:05] <rick_h_> lol
[19:06] <rick_h_> yea, going to MUG last night the right lane was almost empty with everyone trying to get left
[19:06] <rick_h_> so many killer stretches in the right lane
[19:08] <wolfger> I love my new work-from-home-ability. I have driven further than 2 miles maybe 6 times in the last 7-8 weeks. It's nice.
[19:58] <akelling> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/ubuntu-smartphones-will-cost-200-400/ - hope someone here gets one of these. WOuld like to take a look at it.
[20:00] <akelling> Carpenter Rd in Ann Arbor is just shot on the right hand lane both ways. I have driven in smoother fields.
[20:01] <brousch> I'm sure they'll hand them out to all Canonical employees
[20:01] <jrwren> akelling: you are in ann arbor?!?
[20:02] <wolfger> The problem with that phone would be the apps... Why would I buy a phone that probably can't run the apps I currently use, and may or may not have suitable equivalencies?
[20:03] <jrwren> wolfger: that is the same argument folks made about moving off windows.
[20:03] <akelling> indeed apps wpi;d ne am ossie
[20:03] <jrwren> we now know that apple has been winning that.
[20:03] <akelling> would be an issue*
[20:03] <jrwren> get twitter app and evernote and I'd move.
[20:04] <akelling> Windows Phone is having a hell of a time breaking into the market and they have a multibillion dollar company pushing it
[20:04] <jrwren> apple lock in is worse than windows was IMO.  facetime and imessages are very proprietary
[20:04] <jrwren> windows phone is pretty big outside of the US
[20:04] <wolfger> bah. I'm talking Android apps, forget Apple
[20:04] <jrwren> need untapd
[20:04] <greg-g> heh
[20:04] <jrwren> android? what is that?
[20:05] <jrwren> oh icloud, i'm all in with apple. :(
[20:05] <wolfger> do love my ipad air, but I never would have bought one for myself and I still hate the parts of the iPad that remind me it's an apple product
[20:06] <jrwren> wolfger: ha!
[20:06] <jrwren> wolfger: if you had a mac and an iphone that ipad air would work even better!
[20:06] <wolfger> hehehe
[20:06] <wolfger> I guess I'll just suffer, then
[20:19] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: just stumbled on your juju gui client. i have to say it looks quite impressive
[20:19] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: :)
[20:20] <mrgoodcat> is that project for work or outside?
[20:20] <mrgoodcat> as in, is it funded by canonical?
[20:20] <rick_h_> yea, it's the team I work with
[20:20] <mrgoodcat> got it
[20:20] <rick_h_> you mean jujucharms.com right?
[20:20] <mrgoodcat> yea
[20:21] <mrgoodcat> is the demo just user interface or is it actually functional?
[20:21] <rick_h_> so jujucharms.com is a demo, but it's the same software you can deploy into a juju environment to control your real AWS/HPCloud/Azure juju environments
[20:21] <mrgoodcat> but the demo isn't actually functional. it isn't actually spinning up services right?
[20:21] <rick_h_> right
[20:22] <mrgoodcat> ok. at first that didn't click in my brain and i was wondering how much it costs to host a demo of a cluster but then i realized it must be just the UI
[20:22] <rick_h_> yea, we have a fake mock state backend
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> how far is it from release?
[20:31] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: how far is what from release?
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> aren't you trying to get it in the repos?
[20:32] <rick_h_> oh, that's juju-quickstart
[20:32] <rick_h_> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2014/01/29/juju-quickstart-coming-along/
[21:37] <mrgoodcat> i got it. so juju gui is as "released" as its ever getting. easy install with a charm and pretty polished and professional and fully functioning
[21:37] <mrgoodcat> there isn't any more to release
[22:04] <gamerchick02> bah. everyone was let off early today. i stayed til 5 because i didn't get in til 10:30
[22:04] <mrgoodcat> lol staying at work till 5
[22:05] <mrgoodcat> i've done that like twice this calendar year
[22:05] <mrgoodcat> mostly because we close up shop at 430 most days
[22:06] <gamerchick02> well i usually do too but i got in at 10:30
[22:06] <gamerchick02> had my meeting last night and took me 3 hours to drive from Saginaw
[22:06] <mrgoodcat> ah
[22:06] <mrgoodcat> i usually work 9-415 ish
[22:06] <gamerchick02> wait what
[22:07] <mrgoodcat> 845-415
[22:07] <gamerchick02> 7:30 to 4:30...
[22:07] <gamerchick02> how'd you get awesomesauce hours? :-P
[22:08] <mrgoodcat> small family owned industrial company
[22:08] <mrgoodcat> no reason to go there early because most of our customers don't even want to hear from us until after noon
[22:08] <mrgoodcat> and metalworking industry generally closes up shop early. production goes all night but any decision making departments close down
[22:09] <mrgoodcat> sales reps are on call 24-7 though on their cell phones since we have customers around the world
[22:10] <gamerchick02> wow
[22:10] <gamerchick02> nice
[22:10] <mrgoodcat> yea
[22:10] <gamerchick02> Chrysler. we work pretty much 7:30-4:30, some flex early, some flex late.
[22:10] <mrgoodcat> its not as great as it sounds
[22:10] <gamerchick02> hah
[22:10] <gamerchick02> ok
[22:11] <gamerchick02> and usually if you get your work done it's no big deal if you need to leave early but i did legit have some stuff to do. glad the last assignment came in late (bout 2).
[22:11] <mrgoodcat> our industry is a very slow moving one
[22:12] <mrgoodcat> product development goes over the course of decades
[22:12] <mrgoodcat> so its rare we ever have crisis situations of any kind
[22:12] <mrgoodcat> we work in industrial coolants and lubricants
[22:14] <gamerchick02> decades?
[22:14] <gamerchick02> but coolants and lube is cool. worked with my share of that at school and somewhat at Dow when i was a slave i mean co-op.
[22:15] <mrgoodcat> yea decades
[22:15] <mrgoodcat> and our company is considered to be on the forefront
[22:17] <gamerchick02> our stuff changes weekly so i don't know how i'd handle slow change like that
[22:17] <mrgoodcat> well i don't work with our chemical products at all. I'm all computers so it's not so bad
[22:17] <gamerchick02> not too bad at all. :)
[22:18] <mrgoodcat> we make machines to apply the chemicals in very specific applications and that is actually really engaging
[22:18] <mrgoodcat> every piece of equipment is custom built to order
[22:19] <gamerchick02> oooo
[22:19] <gamerchick02> so that's pretty awesopme
[22:19] <gamerchick02> awesome even
[22:20] <mrgoodcat> so yea, short hours
[22:21] <gamerchick02> do they need a mechanical engineer who's interested in that kinda thing?
[22:21] <gamerchick02> :-P
[22:21] <gamerchick02> and where are you located?
[22:21] <mrgoodcat> some people are there as early as 7 and some as late as 6 but generally most people have short hours
[22:21] <mrgoodcat> detroit
[22:21] <gamerchick02> ah
[22:21] <mrgoodcat> hazel park actually
[22:21] <gamerchick02> hrm
[22:22] <gamerchick02> pay well and everyone's direct, no contract workers?
[22:22] <gamerchick02> the reason i ask is because i'm contract now and i'd like to get direct with a company.
[22:23] <mrgoodcat> no contract. i'd be surprised if we'd be able to offer a mechanical engineer a job that would be worth taking. nothing really degree worthy. custom built units don't really require much design. just adaptions of existing design
[22:23] <mrgoodcat> no contract. no union.
[22:23] <gamerchick02> oh
[22:24] <gamerchick02> ok
[22:24] <mrgoodcat> i could ask if you want. my dad and uncle actually own the company
[22:25] <gamerchick02> ah
[22:26] <gamerchick02> i've got adhesives experience from Dow Automotive, releasing/CN/BoM/Change Management on steering columns from Delphi (now Nexteer), and vehicle configuration/IT/herding engineers and analysts at Chrysler.
[22:26] <gamerchick02> also bug reporting at Chrysler on systems that go down all the time. :-P
[22:26] <mrgoodcat> lots of auto experience
[22:27] <mrgoodcat> any particular reason so much automotive?
[22:27] <gamerchick02> yeah. it's kind of a given. graduated from kettering, from MI, it was available.
[22:27] <mrgoodcat> makes sense
[22:28] <gamerchick02> yeah
[22:29] <gamerchick02> cars are big here. :-P
[22:29] <gamerchick02> i wouldn't mind getting out of it but i don't mind working in it either
[22:32] <mrgoodcat> time for dinner
[22:33] <gamerchick02> i just did that. :)
[23:13] <cmaloney> Howdy.
[23:43] <gamerchick02> howdy :)
[23:52] <DrDaemonEye> welcome gamerchick02
[23:52] <gamerchick02> danke!
[23:52] <DrDaemonEye> How are you this evening?
[23:52] <gamerchick02> good
[23:53] <gamerchick02> tired
[23:53] <gamerchick02> been a long day
[23:53] <DrDaemonEye> aww.  I feel ya there
[23:59] <gamerchick02> i'm going to bed early tonight.
[23:59] <gamerchick02> had a late one last night