| SynrG | yeats: macbook air. ... | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| SynrG | no ethernet | 00:00 |
| SynrG | too thin. can't physically accommodate the connector for it | 00:00 |
| yeats | SynrG: no dongle? | 00:00 |
| SynrG | noep | 00:00 |
| _Tristan | Yo, anybody know how I can install grub without efi? It really wants efi, but it doesn't work. | 00:00 |
| yeats | SynrG: the installer only contains free and open source software, so it's really a "broadcom is closed source" issue | 00:01 |
| SynrG | yeats: you sure? this is the +mac variant of the installer | 00:01 |
| SynrG | sure as heck seems it loads wl and it works fine for a while ... | 00:02 |
| Jordan_U | !details | _Tristan | 00:02 |
| SynrG | the live image, at least | 00:02 |
| ubottu | _Tristan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 00:02 |
| yeats | SynrG: I've never installed on a Mac, but Ubuntu can't legally include proprietary drivers (though it can download and install them during installation) | 00:02 |
| _Tristan | I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. When I reinstall grub without efi I get ubuntu. When I reinstall grub with efi I get bootloops, which is a fruitloops knockoff. | 00:03 |
| SynrG | yeats: lsmod confirms wl is loaded shortly after the live system boots | 00:03 |
| SynrG | yeats: i'm able to connect to my wireless network and remain connected only as long as i don't start the installer :/ | 00:03 |
| Dj_FlyBy | got a headless 12.04 server and I am trying to access the www directories via smb but it appears to be read only as I am unable to save anything to the folders I set all permissions properly (think it has to do with /var/www/* being owned by root). uploading edited www files via ftp over the local network is getting tiresome. Is there a safe wayto share my /var/www/* via smb? | 00:03 |
| Dylan | Back. | 00:03 |
| Dylan | There is no slidebar. | 00:03 |
| SynrG | yeats: btw. this isn't my first bbq ... :) debian developer, former lead of the debian-eeepc project, etc. i'm well acquainted with non-free licensing issues ... | 00:04 |
| Dylan | mici or kc9iid: you guys still here? | 00:04 |
| kamil_ | hello | 00:05 |
| SynrG | i'd happily ditch brcmsmac if i could, but i strongly suspect the "+mac" iso actually deliberately includes and prefers wl because that's what's considered "best for macs" | 00:05 |
| yeats | SynrG: okay - I wasn't assuming anything either way ;-) | 00:05 |
| kamil_ | morning ubuntu serev | 00:05 |
| SynrG | er, ditch *wl* and use brcmsmac | 00:05 |
| OerHeks | SynrG, what if you start the live environment first, then install ? maybe the connection stays alive | 00:05 |
| yeats | SynrG: have you consulted this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 00:05 |
| SynrG | OerHeks: that's what i've been saying i've been doing all along | 00:05 |
| kamil_ | hey yeats may i ask you ? | 00:05 |
| SynrG | i've tried both starting the live environment and connecting to wifi, and not connecting ... | 00:06 |
| Dylan | Dammit. Anyone able to help me with installing Ubuntu and dealing with partitions? | 00:06 |
| Jordan_U | SynrG: The one and only difference between the +mac iso and non +mac iso is that the +mac iso has the EFI loader *removed*. | 00:06 |
| yeats | kamil_: just ask your question to the channel - if someone can help - they'll respond | 00:06 |
| SynrG | blacklisting, and not blacklisting (in the live system) | 00:06 |
| SynrG | Jordan_U: i see. thanks | 00:06 |
| Jordan_U | SynrG: You're welcome. | 00:06 |
| kamil_ | what the different beetwen xchat and irc standard ? | 00:07 |
| Dylan | I'm installing Ubuntu with a dual boot and I'm unsure how to handle the partitioning. I need to make a partition for Ubuntu while leaving enough space for Win 7. | 00:07 |
| mici | http://askubuntu.com/questions/150550/installing-ubuntu-with-windows-which-is-left-and-right-when-allocating-space | 00:07 |
| Jordan_U | _Tristan: So if you install the grub-pc package, Ubuntu boots correctly? | 00:07 |
| Dylan | Ah, mici is still here. | 00:07 |
| mici | Dylan that link has an image of the slider im talking about | 00:07 |
| SynrG | Jordan_U: any idea why wl is forced here? | 00:07 |
| Dylan | mici: I'm not getting that slider. | 00:08 |
| Dylan | mici: I'm on the live CD right now and I took a screen shot. | 00:08 |
| Dylan | Any way I can send it to you? | 00:08 |
| kamil_ | what the different ma ?? | 00:08 |
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| SynrG | this flies in the face of "ubuntu can't legally include it" | 00:08 |
| daftykins | Dylan: upload images to somewhere like imagebin | 00:10 |
| daftykins | or imgur.com | 00:10 |
| daftykins | or any of a whole host of choices | 00:10 |
| Jordan_U | SynrG: You tried passing blacklist=foo as a kernel parameter? | 00:10 |
| Jordan_U | SynrG: Rather it appears like the proper form is foo.blacklist=yes . | 00:12 |
| leptone_ | hello i am trying to install LyX Document Processor throught the USC and i keep getting this error: | 00:13 |
| leptone_ | Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick-common_6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/libmagickcore4_6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/libmagickwand4_6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2_i386.deb 404 Not Found | 00:13 |
| adam___ | acpi_listen doesn't output anything | 00:13 |
| Jordan_U | leptone_: sudo apt-get update | 00:13 |
| kamil_ | hey yeats may i ask you ? | 00:13 |
| yeats | kamil_: I don't know the answer to your question, and it's really not Ubuntu support | 00:14 |
| htcm7 | Hey is there a channel specific for ubuntu touch? | 00:15 |
| yeats | !phone | htcm7 | 00:15 |
| ubottu | htcm7: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch | 00:15 |
| SynrG | Jordan_U: ok. a) the owner and her macbook air have left the building. b) no, i didn't, but it wasn't obvious how to get the grub-efi's attention at boot. seemed to go strait to booting right after selecting from rEFInd | 00:15 |
| adam___ | acpi_listen doesn't output anything | 00:15 |
| htcm7 | thx | 00:15 |
| SynrG | Jordan_U: and c) the owner's Dad says "yes, there is an ethernet dongle, and i can send it with her next time" | 00:16 |
| yeats | !pm | kamil_ | 00:16 |
| ubottu | kamil_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. | 00:16 |
| heath | trying to start emacs as a deamon in ubuntu, what's the recommended method for starting emacs as a startup service in ubuntu? | 00:16 |
| heath | ubottu: !startup | 00:16 |
| ubottu | To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot | 00:16 |
| SynrG | so assuming next time i can get grub's attention and append wl.blacklist=yes, i will and then we'll even install over ethernet if need be. | 00:16 |
| kamil_ | ubottu is a bot | 00:16 |
| ubottu | Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information. | 00:16 |
| SynrG | yeats, Jordan_U (and anyone else i may have overlooked): thanks :) until next time ... | 00:17 |
| * SynrG waves | 00:17 | |
| yeats | SynrG: best of luck | 00:17 |
| kamil_ | i hve trouble with changing folder access directory | 00:17 |
| king_ | hi linux mint chat is rubbish the ops are always on and they are stricked | 00:19 |
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| king_ | hello | 00:19 |
| king_ | hello | 00:20 |
| [RO]Daniel | you are using linux mint and you decided to get help from here? :)) hello btw | 00:20 |
| rawfodog | hi, I made a bookmark to an ftp server in nautilus. I was wondering where that symlink is made so I can use the short cut to get into that place (rather than enter the creds in terminal) | 00:20 |
| demianb | Haha. | 00:20 |
| hitsujiTMO | king_: this is ubuntu support, not a chat channel | 00:20 |
| king_ | no just feed up of linux mint chat thing | 00:21 |
| rawfodog | answer my question you trolls | 00:21 |
| demianb | I would suggest making a backup of your /home, then restoring your files and settigs after installing Ubuntu. ;) | 00:21 |
| king_ | hitsujitmo what is your chat channnel | 00:21 |
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| king_ | hitsujitmo what is your chat channnel | 00:24 |
| humbag_ | king_: have you been to #defocus ? | 00:24 |
| king_ | no | 00:24 |
| humbag_ | it is a silly place | 00:24 |
| hitsujiTMO | king_: #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic stuff | 00:25 |
| king_ | humbag linuxmint things are a silly place | 00:25 |
| haT | hello | 00:25 |
| king_ | hitsujitmo thanks | 00:25 |
| haT | i need help with something | 00:25 |
| haT | guys, how do i modify a systemd file ? | 00:26 |
| Jordan_U | haT: What systemd file are you trying to modify and why? | 00:27 |
| haT | the logind.conf | 00:27 |
| haT | when i close the lid of my laptop it doesn't hibernate | 00:27 |
| Jordan_U | haT: What version of Ubuntu are you using? | 00:28 |
| haT | as a matter of fact am using the xubuntu saucy | 00:28 |
| king_ | haT is it saucy | 00:29 |
| haT | yes, xubuntu saucy | 00:29 |
| Jordan_U | haT: You can edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf like any other text file. Since it's root owned, you will need to use sudo or gksudo, for example "gksudo /etc/systemd/logind.conf". Of course you should also backup the current contents first. | 00:31 |
| Jordan_U | haT: Sorry, "gksudo gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf". | 00:31 |
| haT | i have tried | 00:31 |
| violinuxer | ubuntu saucy? dang, i remember the days of hardy, gutsy, and fiesty :) boy ubuntu has gone a long way since then :) | 00:31 |
| haT | yea.. | 00:32 |
| Jordan_U | !details | haT | 00:32 |
| ubottu | haT: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 00:32 |
| king_ | lol | 00:32 |
| haT | i started using ubuntu since December and i love it | 00:32 |
| haT | i have tried sudo | 00:32 |
| haT | even when i manage to modify it it doesn't save | 00:33 |
| Jordan_U | haT: What is the exact command you ran? What error message did you recieve when you tried to save? | 00:33 |
| haT | so i have to get out without saving | 00:33 |
| haT | sudo vim /etc/systemd/logind.conf | 00:34 |
| morph4me | sudo -i to root | 00:34 |
| haT | hmm....... | 00:34 |
| haT | let me try that | 00:35 |
| Jordan_U | morph4me: haT: Please don't suggest starting a full root shell when it's not needed, as is the case here. | 00:36 |
| Jordan_U | haT: And what error message do you get when you try to ":w"? | 00:36 |
| pack^ | I always tell people who have a hard time with command line to download Midnight Commander (mc) and use it to edit files and file properties as well as change groups etc. | 00:38 |
| haT | nope.. i am still new to linux and i don't what is w | 00:38 |
| haT | haha | 00:38 |
| haT | morph | 00:38 |
| haT | thanks | 00:38 |
| haT | sudo i worked | 00:38 |
| haT | sudo -i | 00:38 |
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| xtarxcream | Hey guys | 00:38 |
| Jordan_U | haT: No, something else worked. sudo -i didn't change your ability to save the file any more than running vim via sudo would. | 00:38 |
| haT | :| | 00:38 |
| Jordan_U | haT: Then you shouldn't be using vim yet. Try "gksudo gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf" for a GUI editor or "sudo nano /etc/systemd/logind.conf" for a simpler terminal based editor. | 00:38 |
| xtarxcream | got a quick question bout unity, was wondering if there was a way to modify the dash launcher icon | 00:38 |
| haT | 0_o | 00:39 |
| haT | Jordan, how do i get out sudo | 00:39 |
| Jordan_U | haT: exit | 00:39 |
| haT | just type exit ? | 00:39 |
| haT | didn't work | 00:40 |
| morph4me | exit followed by hitting enter | 00:40 |
| haT | i did | 00:40 |
| Jordan_U | haT: What does the bottom line of your terminal currently show? | 00:40 |
| haT | root@paa-ThinkPad-X201:/etc/systemd# exit | 00:40 |
| haT | exit | 00:40 |
| haT | when i typed exit | 00:41 |
| haT | it printed out exit | 00:41 |
| haT | ohh | 00:41 |
| Jordan_U | haT: Yes, and now you're at a '$' prompt, correct? | 00:41 |
| haT | ok now it works | 00:41 |
| haT | yes | 00:41 |
| haT | damn linux kicks ass | 00:41 |
| Jordan_U | haT: Try "gksudo gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf" and you will find that you will be able to modify the file via gedit that way. | 00:42 |
| haT | ok i will do it right now | 00:42 |
| haT | gksudo is currently not installed | 00:43 |
| haT | is it a must that i download it ? | 00:43 |
| haT | is it needed / | 00:43 |
| haT | ? | 00:43 |
| haT | where did Jordan_U and morph4me go ? | 00:45 |
| morph4me | haT you can get there with this as well ,... just don't forget to save sudo - i gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf | 00:45 |
| haT | i did saved | 00:45 |
| t0rkvam3do | good night | 00:46 |
| haT | hmm... | 00:46 |
| morph4me | k then get out of root and type gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf ...it should ask to reload | 00:46 |
| kamil_ | someone help me | 00:47 |
| haT | ok | 00:47 |
| ACCBiggz | Priority: LOW; 13.10 - Flash player in chromium browser begins wonky (http://imgur.com/JyOgmAm), but once video actually plays it's fine. Thinking I should just leave it, but it's irritating. | 00:47 |
| xtarxcream | If anyone can gimme a hand w unity 7, send me a ping please. | 00:48 |
| Jordan_U | morph4me: The commands you are giving are incorrect. Please try to be more careful when giving instructions. | 00:48 |
| Beldar | ACCBiggz, I don't use it ir chrome, however the latter has a onboard more up to date flash. | 00:48 |
| Beldar | or* | 00:48 |
| morph4me | Jordan sudo -i gedit would open that as root | 00:48 |
| Jordan_U | haT: If you want to use gedit rather than nano, then yes, you should install gksu/gksudo. | 00:48 |
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| ACCBiggz | Beldar: When I loaded chromium it had no flash in plugins. I began by getting pepperflash, but it didn't complete all the way. Thus, I installed regular flash to get to this point. | 00:49 |
| haT | ok i managed to open it with vim | 00:50 |
| Jordan_U | morph4me: You should not run GUI commands as root using anything other than gksudo/gksu. | 00:50 |
| Jordan_U | haT: But you don't know how to use vim. | 00:50 |
| haT | ohh ok.. | 00:51 |
| Beldar | ACCBiggz, Flash from the repos is just older. | 00:51 |
| haT | guess nano would be good | 00:51 |
| morph4me | yes Jordan_U well aware | 00:51 |
| Jordan_U | morph4me: Then why did you give advice which contradicted that knowledge? | 00:51 |
| Jordan_U | haT: "sudo nano /etc/systemd/logind.conf" will open the file in nano, a simple terminal based text editor. | 00:51 |
| haT | guys, guys.. it doesn't matter | 00:51 |
| haT | we learn from our mistake | 00:52 |
| mici | btw why is gksudo important when sudoing gui apps? | 00:52 |
| haT | somebody gives you an advice, you try and if that screws you up then you've learned your lesson | 00:52 |
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| Jordan_U | haT: If you want to learn how to use vim, "vimtutor" is a great introduction. | 00:52 |
| haT | ok | 00:52 |
| Jordan_U | !gksudo | mici | 00:54 |
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