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yofelsgclark: you can also run 'dpkg-buildpackage -nc' (no-clean) which will at least skip the compiling step and only repeat the installation00:00
sgclarkCan anyone assist with this symbols craziness http://paste.ubuntu.com/7082124/00:02
yofelsgclark: libnoteshared.so.4 is not installed in any package (because it's a new file)00:07
yofelso dpkg-shlibdeps fails because it can't find it00:08
sgclarkok thank you00:08
ahoneybunRiddell, it seems khelpcenter will show the user docs in different langs but it looks in the en directory for them00:24
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)03:48
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)03:55
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski)03:55
kittermaRiddell: I was there. I think it was a good session. Too tired to write details tonight though.04:23
=== kitterma is now known as ScottK
ScottK^^^ was me04:24
MirvRiddell: it was discussed what were the hurdles this cycle (skipping 5.1, not prioritizing enough across the teams, 5.2 having the V4 rewrite and only 5.2.1 achieved a good level of stability)05:34
ScottKMirv: Don't forget refusing to land anything until everything was perfect.05:35
MirvRiddell: oh yes, the most important one probably regarding why didn't reach feature freeze which was two weeks after 5.2.1 ^05:36
Mirvso for the future preparing early, automated testing with 5.3 / trunk05:37
Mirvfor 14.10, 5.3.x would make sense from Ubuntu point of view. it might be that at some point Ubuntu's Qt selection might become too conservative for KDE, at which point Ubuntu might need to maintain its own separate Qt-5.x packaging, but hopefully that wouldn't be needed too soon.05:38
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)08:00
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)09:03
soeebroken http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.80_trusty.html ?09:05
Riddellsoee: hmm that was working a minute ago09:15
Riddellsome error in the launchad login09:16
jussibah, someone broke something! I blame shadeslayer :P :P 09:45
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7083769/09:45
jussi(my ktp no longer works - the panes dont refresh and I cannot enter anything)09:45
RiddellW: storageservicemanager: icon-size-and-directory-name-mismatch usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdepim-dropbox.png 460x41509:58
Riddelljings that really is a mismatch09:58
Riddellsgclark: they're fine to leave in the packaging.  if you want to be a good open source citizen you can fix the image sizes and submit them upstream09:59
sgclarkok10:00
Riddellyofel: did you have to add new bits to marble?10:03
Riddell(for the FFe)10:03
lordievaderGood morning.10:03
Riddellhi lordievader, are you on trusty and can you tell me if printing works in system settings?10:05
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)10:05
lordievaderRiddell: I'm in Windows currently. And my testing setup does not include a printer. Another system does my printing.10:06
RiddellI fear nobody tests printing except me10:07
yofelprinting works for me, didn't test from system settings. The KCM doesn't look broken if anything.10:11
yofelMy only problem would be that every application seems to assume different printer settings :S10:11
yofelbut that's nothing new10:11
yofelRiddell: marble: a couple of data files, new marblewidget ABI, libastro1 + libastro-dev (not sure if it warrants its own dev package, but as I'm already adding stuff it seemed sensible)10:13
yofelhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble/revision/13210:13
Riddellok so maybe a glitch in the matrix, I'll reinstall10:13
Riddellproofreaders needed for bug 1291899 ←←10:15
ubottubug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129189910:15
Riddellsgclark: is your kdepim packaging all done?10:15
sgclarkRiddell: still hacking away at it, package removed and added so had to fix control which led to need to rebuild again. And still working through lintian. I am making profgress though!10:17
Riddellgood luck!10:19
RiddellI'll crack on with kde-l10n in the mean time10:19
sgclarkRiddell: I am on trusty and my system settings printer works. I had to install hplip to get the scanner to work though.10:23
Riddell"'QDialog' object has no attribute 'insert_label"  USB creator not quite happy today10:43
apacheloggerhm10:43
Riddellapachelogger: does it work for you? that's just on startup10:43
apachelogger!info libkpeople10:43
apachelogger!info libkpeople-dev10:43
ubottuPackage libkpeople does not exist in saucy10:43
ubottuPackage libkpeople-dev does not exist in saucy10:43
apacheloggerRiddell: when is that supposed to happen?10:44
Riddellapachelogger: it should show something other than an error dialogue10:44
apacheloggerRiddell: also note that pyqt python3.4 has "issues"10:44
Riddellthat's running it with the --iso switch10:44
apacheloggerRiddell: starts just fine for me10:44
apacheloggeriso switch is new10:44
Riddellwithout it shows something then gives and error dialog "first argument must be the method signature string: GLib.Variant('a{sv}', {})"10:44
Riddellit's always been there10:44
apacheloggerwe should write more software in python10:45
Riddellhmm, similar glib problm running usb-creator-gtk10:47
apacheloggerwell the dbus stuff is definitely not our bug10:48
apacheloggerthe insert_label however is10:48
apacheloggerthere's no such label10:48
Riddella reasonable complaint then by QDialog :)10:48
apacheloggeryeah, was just a bad port from the gtk gui it seems10:49
apacheloggerwe have no insert_label and never had one ^^10:49
Riddellapachelogger: will you fix it? want a bug report?10:51
apacheloggerfixing already10:51
Riddellyo da man10:51
Riddellshadeslayer: how's your qt SRUs doing?10:52
apacheloggerRiddell: the glib issue I cannot reproduce10:53
apacheloggernot with --iso anyway10:53
apacheloggeralso I think there's state issues after formatting again10:54
* apachelogger sighs a bit10:54
RiddellI wonder if me running it with sudo added random issues10:54
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, that's bad10:55
apacheloggerno need to sudo, the privleged parts are being polkitted to root helpers10:55
RiddellI know10:55
apacheloggerthere definitely is a state tracking issue10:57
apachelogger:@10:57
apacheloggerstupid python10:57
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, cannot reproduce the glib thing, not without --iso either10:57
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084048/10:58
soeeRiddell: so with this error it is impossible to work on fixing 4.12.80 ?11:02
yofelsgclark: I don't think we can do much about that11:05
yofelqml related?11:05
yofelsgclark: btw. we have a set of whitelisted lintian warnings/errors that we don't really care about:11:05
yofelhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/lintian-ignore.json11:05
yofelyou'll have to look that up yourself if you're building locally11:06
sgclarkThank you yofel11:06
Riddellsoee: we're working on 4.12.80 now11:12
soeeRiddell: nice, thank you11:13
Riddellagateau: your ubiquity layout fix looks lovely today11:19
lordievaderWhoo 4.13 beta \o/ good luck!11:21
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084168/11:24
sgclarkRiddell: nm found a whitespace11:25
shadeslayerRiddell: lintian running on Qt4 X11 for Precise11:49
shadeslayerwill upload once done11:49
shadeslayertakes forever11:49
apacheloggerRiddell: the state issue after formatting is a weird timing issue in the udisk backend11:50
apacheloggerand the udisk backend features shitty code so I'll pretend I did not notice the bug11:50
shadeslayerafternoon11:52
sgclarkRiddell: or anyone http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084268/ these *.so files do not exist that I can find11:55
shadeslayerthat looks very wrong11:57
shadeslayerRiddell: Qt4 uploaded too11:58
shadeslayerfor precise11:58
shadeslayertime to do some shitty cards11:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: mvo replied11:59
shadeslayerhe's on vacation11:59
shadeslayerso he can update app-install-data when he comes back11:59
shadeslayeror I find a hard disk big enough to sync the ubuntu archive12:00
agateauRiddell: \o/12:04
RiddellScottK: could you eye up 1291899 and consider it for approval?12:05
Riddellbug 129189912:05
ubottubug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129189912:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: got cards12:09
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/0tn1vYPN12:10
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/3AzLURPE12:10
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/eraSkldV12:10
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/cRbKZu1b12:10
ScottKRiddell: I can look at it tomorrow.  Please remind me.12:10
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/jddah0bu12:10
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/wWH7ZL5812:11
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/x9bRWtJ712:11
shadeslayerI wouldn't have a clue on https://trello.com/c/3AzLURPE12:11
apacheloggergeneral l10n snauf https://trello.com/b/ZgXtyUW4/14-04-l10n-review-212:11
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/fMDTZ5xf12:11
apacheloggerrandom bug of the day: find out why python3.4 broke pyqt and get that fixed12:12
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/c/P3vuIfXB12:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: you would start with reproducing the problem12:12
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)12:12
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)12:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: that's all fine, but what next :P12:12
shadeslayerwait what12:13
apacheloggertrying to get rid fo the spacing issue12:13
shadeslayerwhen did I start doing https://trello.com/c/4uolHmD612:13
shadeslayerthough quite an important card ^^12:13
apacheloggerthen reduce amount of stuff neeeded to reduce the spacing issue12:13
apacheloggerthen make deductions and/or file bugs12:13
apacheloggeron that note, perhaps first check if upstream hs a bug12:13
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:58
jmuxRiddell: just some update on the Qt patch. I did have a longer IRC chat yesterday (from 23:30 - 1:30). I've - again - rewritten the unit test. Well - the patch is "looks good - someone else must approve", so basically they wait for the unit test.12:59
jmuxI definitly read more Qt code, I wanted...12:59
Riddelljmux: you're a brave man :)13:02
Riddellanother reason to get 4.13 in the archive quick, kwallet upgraded format and in testing the daily ISO today it got confused13:31
Riddellapachelogger: I really wish I knew what the incomplete-language-pack installer was installing when it installs stuff13:34
Riddellah hah, if you look at the right time qapt does tell you13:34
Riddellall those gnome language packs13:34
* apachelogger munches cake13:35
apacheloggerRiddell: qapt doesn't do it very well13:35
apacheloggerRiddell: the dialog for codecs and stuff is actually a reimplemnetation of qapt-batch just to have the user informed13:36
apacheloggerless useful for language-pack because you don't get a way around installing them anyway ^^13:36
sgclarkRiddell: These are the final items I am stuck on. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084699/13:43
* Riddell looks13:46
Riddellsgclark: nothing new in that circular dependency, debian have it too http://lintian.debian.org/tags/intra-source-package-circular-dependency.html13:49
jmuxRiddell: Oh - BTW - I might have discovered an other Qt bug, I need to get fixed...13:49
* jmux reading more Qt code13:49
Riddelljmux: udisks2 got updated in precise backports by the way13:50
Riddellsgclark: the dev-pkg-without-shlib-symlink are fine, we don't want to install the dev symlink for them as nothing uses them and there's no ABI stability13:51
Riddellsgclark: so ignore the circular-dependency for now, should get fixed but we seem to be able to live with it13:51
Riddellsgclark: and override the dev-pkg-without-shlib-symlink if you want13:51
sgclarkRiddell: ok, kdepim coming up shortly13:51
jmuxRiddell: Yeah - I saw that yesterday - thanks for that. So now the qt patch will go into precise-backports too, right... ;-)13:54
Riddelljmux: yes, shadeslayer was just saying he was about to upload it13:54
* Riddell looks to shadeslayer to confirm13:54
Riddelljmux: actually it's aimed for precise-updates in the main archive13:55
jmuxBut there is also a qt4-x11 in kubuntu-backports precise 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6 13:58
jmuxAs long as I can get the corrected version from some archive, I'm fine.13:59
Riddellshadeslayer: ↑14:02
shadeslayerjmux: ah, I haven't updated the ppa version14:11
* Riddell uploads 4.12.80 to saucy in ninjas14:54
Riddellbut lack of reporting tool will hurt14:54
sgclarkRiddell: kdepim ready15:06
Riddellsgclark: yay!15:07
Riddell"Add new storageservicemanager package" do we want that on the install images?15:15
sgclarkThey are quite popular15:16
sgclarkimo15:16
sgclarkRiddell: I am not feeling well and need to nap a bit :( , email me if you have questions or concerns.15:19
Riddellsgclark: have a snooze, you've deserved it15:19
sgclarkty15:20
Riddellwgrant: any thoughts on why our launchpad automation script doesn't work from our server today but does locally with the same credentials? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/error.txt15:26
soee_Riddell: and for trusty ? (4.12.80) ?15:30
Riddellsoee_: it's all up and needs testing, want to test?15:31
soee_sure15:31
Riddell!testers | 4.12.80 for trusty in ninjas15:31
ubottu4.12.80 for trusty in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley  for information15:31
Riddellsoee_: got ninjas access details?15:31
soee_nope i lost it 15:31
=== soee_ is now known as soee
Riddellsoee: voila15:31
soeedownloading15:37
soeeno errors while downloading/upgrading15:47
soeereboot15:47
soeeRiddell: smooth upgrade15:51
Riddellsoee: everything working?15:59
Riddellsoee: can you tag files in dolphin and gwenview and have the tags shared between the two?15:59
soeeah didnt test that16:02
soeeDolphin crashes 16:02
Riddelloh erk16:03
soeeDolphin crashed when i added tag but it was stored in tags list16:03
soeethan i coould select it in gwenview 16:04
BluesKajI must have dumped the ninjas ppa a while back, or is it the /kubuntu-ppa/experimental/?16:04
RiddellBluesKaj: /msged16:04
BluesKajok Riddell, thanks16:06
Riddellsoee: can you search for files in dolphin with the Find button?16:06
soeeCTRL + F ?16:07
Riddellsoee: yes16:08
lordievaderLets see if I can update to 4.12.80 in a chroot :)16:08
soeei think it returns a lot wrong files16:09
Riddellyes I think I agree16:09
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
soeewhat is baloo_file_extractor ?16:26
manchicken1Should I start moving my dev machine to 14.04? I've still got it in 13.10.16:26
Riddellmanchicken1: yep :)16:26
manchicken1I'll do that then.16:26
Riddellsoee: new search engine indexer16:26
manchicken1I'll upgrade it tomorrow night probably.16:26
soeeoh ok :)16:26
cortexA9hello all16:29
Riddellhi cortexA9 16:31
cortexA9hey Riddell 16:31
cortexA9Riddell:  i think my issue with sleep mode it's partially resolved.16:32
Riddelloh?16:32
cortexA9Riddell: after some minutes.. it work.16:32
cortexA9Riddell: need only to wait :)16:33
cortexA9idk why Riddell 16:33
BluesKajKDE 4.12.8.0 seems to have installed fine, all is ok so far16:38
soeeyup but there are ssues with tags and baloo i think16:39
soeehmm my hdd seems to go crazy now16:40
Riddellsoee: what's running?16:41
RiddellI expect top will say baloo is indexing16:41
soeeRiddell: baloo processes each taks 1,5 Gb ram16:41
soeethey eat whole almost ram16:42
shadeslayervHanda: ^^16:42
vHandasoee: which one?16:42
vHandaakonadi_baloo_indexer?16:42
vHandaor baloo_file?16:42
soeei killed 3 have more running16:42
soeebaloo_file_indexer16:42
soeesorry16:42
soee*extractor16:43
vHandaoh boy. That's going to be slightly hard to debug.16:43
vHandacould you please do a ps aux and get the full command which was used to launch the offending baloo_file_extractor?16:43
soeeok 4 left, each 12% cpu and ~ 300ram16:43
cortexA9Project Neon right?16:43
shadeslayercortexA9: nope16:44
cortexA9Kubuntu Linux provides packages for testing via Project Neon16:45
soeevHanda: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7085640/ ?16:45
soeethis 4 are growing, noe around 1gb ram each16:46
soeeok now 2 left, and some more from time to time are showing, hiding16:50
vHandaseaLne: choose one which was very large and then run balooshow on those numbers16:52
vHandayou'll then have to manually run baloo_file_extractor on each of those numbers and see which was the offending file16:52
soeenow they are more stable, 2 and each ~ 500mb16:53
soeevHanda: is it possible that the VB virtual drivers cause this ?16:54
soeelike /home/soee/VirtualBox VMs/Kubuntu - testing/Kubuntu - testing.vbox16:55
cortexA9why i can't install packages of project neon ?16:57
cortexA9E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:57
cortexA9added the repository before17:00
vHandasoee: could be, though we do not have any indexed for them17:12
soeeok i think it finished work 17:22
soeelast 5 minutes my pc was freezed17:22
soeethe reason was problalby ram - whole taken by baloo_file_extractor procs17:23
soeebuty now all works stable as usual17:24
lordievader4.12.80 is installed and booted. No problems installing it or netbooting it.17:30
cortexA9uh lordievader what ppa?17:30
lordievaderThe ninja private one.17:31
cortexA9oh ok lordievader :)17:31
BluesKajis there a ninja GPG key to add so I can rid of the annoying message during updates?17:32
lordievaderBluesKaj: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key-ids>17:33
BluesKajlordievader, i have the command , just need the key 17:34
lordievaderWhen you run apt-get update he tells you the key-id he is missing.17:34
BluesKajyes, that why i asked17:36
lordievaderBluesKaj: Could you pastebin the output of apt-get update?17:37
BluesKajKDE 4.12.80 installed fine lordievader, I just want to get rid of the error message17:41
lordievaderBluesKaj: That's why I asked for the output so I could give you the full command to add the pgp key.17:42
BluesKajjust need the XXXXX number/code17:43
BluesKajthat's all17:43
lordievaderBluesKaj: That's why I asked for the output... Since my gpg fails to list keys..17:44
BluesKajlordievader, I pm'd it 17:46
=== TheDrums is now known as DalekSec
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)18:26
ahoneybunapachelogger, there is a bug in kubuntu-docs18:48
ahoneybunshould I file or just tell you?18:49
MirvQt 5.2 landing to -proposed now18:50
tester56_http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.80_trusty.html    :-((19:02
yofelstill? Lets see if a cache wipe will fix that19:03
tester56_yofel: will 4.13 be shipped in tommorrows iso?19:04
yofelno19:04
tester56_yofel: is there a way to help out somehow?19:05
yofelnot really, it's ~done. Now bug 1291899 needs to be approved, then upload it, wait for it to build, wait for it to migrate to release and then it'll be on the next image19:05
ubottubug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129189919:06
tester56_yofel: "Most applications have been ported to Baloo and we expect to drop Nepomuk features from those which have not which are currently Amarok, Digikam and Plasma Media Centre."  Sounds like nepomuk wont be inlcuded in the default iso19:10
yofelso far it will, we can either ship it, or not ship it at all19:11
tester56_strange ... how can I quit when I am still online :D19:11
yofela ghost was there :P19:11
yofelstatus page fixed19:12
tester56_yofel: if baloo works as aspected I would vote for dropping nepomuk19:12
tester56_yofel: thanks19:13
yofelit depends whether we want to drop semantics support for PMC - which we might do19:13
=== rdieter is now known as rdieter_work
Riddell4.13 beta 2 is out!21:00
soee!21:05
* Riddell runs automation script21:06
soeewe need some info @ kubuntu.org21:06
Riddellsoee: did you try kdepim from 4.13 beta 1 ?21:06
soeethis one is the first beta i have from 4.13 line21:06
Riddellsoee: yes, did you try kontact?21:07
soeeuh im not using it, i jsut opend it and closed :)21:07
soeeim @thunderbird because i had a lot of problems last time i tried kontact21:07
soeeRiddell: what exactly can be wrong with kontact ? I just configured one account and messages are downloading21:18
Riddellsoee: great, I hope nothing is wrong with it :)21:18
Riddellsoee: but the main change is the switch to the new baloo search engine again, so if you can test searches that would be lovely21:18
soeewait i clicked on Diary section or how it is called originaly and app freezed 21:20
Riddellwibble21:20
soeecope it as callendat i think, after 2 minutes it works 21:21
soee4.13b2 is ready also for raring ?21:23
Riddell4.13 beta 2 is being prepared on my computer for trusty, it won't be packaged for raring21:24
soeei thoought iv seens someone said it will be :)21:25
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)21:39
=== mjayk_chromeook is now known as mjayk_chromebook
soeeksmserver ?22:25
soeeuhm,  nvidia-prime upgrade ... hope it wont break system :)22:31
soeekontact has some problems 22:34
ahoneybunhowdy22:48
Riddellhi ahoneybun 22:52
ahoneybunhey Riddell 22:52
ahoneybunI see why langs do not show up on khelpcenter with our docs22:53
ahoneybunat least with danish22:53
soeeRiddell: it took 5 min to load kontact this time http://paste.ubuntu.com/7087358/22:55
ahoneybunRiddell, khelpcenter is looking in the wrong location for different langs22:56
ahoneybunalways in the en directory22:56
Riddellahoneybun: do you have danish language set?23:03
Riddellsoee: hum23:04
ahoneybunRiddell, I installed the package and set it in khelpcenter23:04
Riddellahoneybun: do applications use danish language?23:04
ahoneybunnot system just khelpcenter23:05
ahoneybunyou can set it for just center applications23:05
ahoneybun*certain23:05
soeeRiddell: i think the reason might be aggregator with some invalid entries23:06
Riddellahoneybun: how?23:08
Riddellahoneybun: setting it just for 1 application might mean it doesn't get used for searching for help docs23:08
ahoneybunsomewhere in the help menu23:08
Riddellahoneybun: mm yes, always a weird feature that23:08
ahoneybunwell just using the help center the topics on the side we changed23:08
ahoneybunshows the topics as the lang but can;t find the doc that the lang is asking for23:09
ahoneybunalways looks in /usr/share/kde/HTML/"something docs"/en23:10
Riddellahoneybun: try switching the whole desktop language23:14
ahoneybunwill when I get a working vm23:14
ahoneybuncan;t get full screen in vm to work at all23:14
Riddelldon't use stretch for full screen, it caused everything to freeze when I tried it23:15
ahoneybunno like I can't use it at all the option is blacked out in the menu of vb23:17
wgrantRiddell: What's broken?23:18
Riddellwgrant: wah it fixed itself!23:20
Riddellhow annoying23:20

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