[00:00] <yofel> sgclark: you can also run 'dpkg-buildpackage -nc' (no-clean) which will at least skip the compiling step and only repeat the installation
[00:02] <sgclark> Can anyone assist with this symbols craziness http://paste.ubuntu.com/7082124/
[00:07] <yofel> sgclark: libnoteshared.so.4 is not installed in any package (because it's a new file)
[00:08] <yofel> so dpkg-shlibdeps fails because it can't find it
[00:08] <sgclark> ok thank you
[00:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell, it seems khelpcenter will show the user docs in different langs but it looks in the en directory for them
[03:48] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[03:55] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)
[03:55] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski)
[04:23] <kitterma> Riddell: I was there. I think it was a good session. Too tired to write details tonight though.
=== kitterma is now known as ScottK
[04:24] <ScottK> ^^^ was me
[05:34] <Mirv> Riddell: it was discussed what were the hurdles this cycle (skipping 5.1, not prioritizing enough across the teams, 5.2 having the V4 rewrite and only 5.2.1 achieved a good level of stability)
[05:35] <ScottK> Mirv: Don't forget refusing to land anything until everything was perfect.
[05:36] <Mirv> Riddell: oh yes, the most important one probably regarding why didn't reach feature freeze which was two weeks after 5.2.1 ^
[05:37] <Mirv> so for the future preparing early, automated testing with 5.3 / trunk
[05:38] <Mirv> for 14.10, 5.3.x would make sense from Ubuntu point of view. it might be that at some point Ubuntu's Qt selection might become too conservative for KDE, at which point Ubuntu might need to maintain its own separate Qt-5.x packaging, but hopefully that wouldn't be needed too soon.
[08:00] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[09:03] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[09:05] <soee> broken http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.80_trusty.html ?
[09:15] <Riddell> soee: hmm that was working a minute ago
[09:16] <Riddell> some error in the launchad login
[09:45] <jussi> bah, someone broke something! I blame shadeslayer :P :P 
[09:45] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7083769/
[09:45] <jussi> (my ktp no longer works - the panes dont refresh and I cannot enter anything)
[09:58] <Riddell> W: storageservicemanager: icon-size-and-directory-name-mismatch usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdepim-dropbox.png 460x415
[09:58] <Riddell> jings that really is a mismatch
[09:59] <Riddell> sgclark: they're fine to leave in the packaging.  if you want to be a good open source citizen you can fix the image sizes and submit them upstream
[10:00] <sgclark> ok
[10:03] <Riddell> yofel: did you have to add new bits to marble?
[10:03] <Riddell> (for the FFe)
[10:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:05] <Riddell> hi lordievader, are you on trusty and can you tell me if printing works in system settings?
[10:05] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[10:06] <lordievader> Riddell: I'm in Windows currently. And my testing setup does not include a printer. Another system does my printing.
[10:07] <Riddell> I fear nobody tests printing except me
[10:11] <yofel> printing works for me, didn't test from system settings. The KCM doesn't look broken if anything.
[10:11] <yofel> My only problem would be that every application seems to assume different printer settings :S
[10:11] <yofel> but that's nothing new
[10:13] <yofel> Riddell: marble: a couple of data files, new marblewidget ABI, libastro1 + libastro-dev (not sure if it warrants its own dev package, but as I'm already adding stuff it seemed sensible)
[10:13] <yofel> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble/revision/132
[10:13] <Riddell> ok so maybe a glitch in the matrix, I'll reinstall
[10:15] <Riddell> proofreaders needed for bug 1291899 ←←
[10:15] <ubottu> bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899
[10:15] <Riddell> sgclark: is your kdepim packaging all done?
[10:17] <sgclark> Riddell: still hacking away at it, package removed and added so had to fix control which led to need to rebuild again. And still working through lintian. I am making profgress though!
[10:19] <Riddell> good luck!
[10:19] <Riddell> I'll crack on with kde-l10n in the mean time
[10:23] <sgclark> Riddell: I am on trusty and my system settings printer works. I had to install hplip to get the scanner to work though.
[10:43] <Riddell> "'QDialog' object has no attribute 'insert_label"  USB creator not quite happy today
[10:43] <apachelogger> hm
[10:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: does it work for you? that's just on startup
[10:43] <apachelogger> !info libkpeople
[10:43] <apachelogger> !info libkpeople-dev
[10:43] <ubottu> Package libkpeople does not exist in saucy
[10:43] <ubottu> Package libkpeople-dev does not exist in saucy
[10:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: when is that supposed to happen?
[10:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: it should show something other than an error dialogue
[10:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: also note that pyqt python3.4 has "issues"
[10:44] <Riddell> that's running it with the --iso switch
[10:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: starts just fine for me
[10:44] <apachelogger> iso switch is new
[10:44] <Riddell> without it shows something then gives and error dialog "first argument must be the method signature string: GLib.Variant('a{sv}', {})"
[10:44] <Riddell> it's always been there
[10:45] <apachelogger> we should write more software in python
[10:47] <Riddell> hmm, similar glib problm running usb-creator-gtk
[10:48] <apachelogger> well the dbus stuff is definitely not our bug
[10:48] <apachelogger> the insert_label however is
[10:48] <apachelogger> there's no such label
[10:48] <Riddell> a reasonable complaint then by QDialog :)
[10:49] <apachelogger> yeah, was just a bad port from the gtk gui it seems
[10:49] <apachelogger> we have no insert_label and never had one ^^
[10:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: will you fix it? want a bug report?
[10:51] <apachelogger> fixing already
[10:51] <Riddell> yo da man
[10:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how's your qt SRUs doing?
[10:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: the glib issue I cannot reproduce
[10:53] <apachelogger> not with --iso anyway
[10:54] <apachelogger> also I think there's state issues after formatting again
[10:54]  * apachelogger sighs a bit
[10:54] <Riddell> I wonder if me running it with sudo added random issues
[10:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, that's bad
[10:55] <apachelogger> no need to sudo, the privleged parts are being polkitted to root helpers
[10:55] <Riddell> I know
[10:57] <apachelogger> there definitely is a state tracking issue
[10:57] <apachelogger> :@
[10:57] <apachelogger> stupid python
[10:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, cannot reproduce the glib thing, not without --iso either
[10:58] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084048/
[11:02] <soee> Riddell: so with this error it is impossible to work on fixing 4.12.80 ?
[11:05] <yofel> sgclark: I don't think we can do much about that
[11:05] <yofel> qml related?
[11:05] <yofel> sgclark: btw. we have a set of whitelisted lintian warnings/errors that we don't really care about:
[11:05] <yofel> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/lintian-ignore.json
[11:06] <yofel> you'll have to look that up yourself if you're building locally
[11:06] <sgclark> Thank you yofel
[11:12] <Riddell> soee: we're working on 4.12.80 now
[11:13] <soee> Riddell: nice, thank you
[11:19] <Riddell> agateau: your ubiquity layout fix looks lovely today
[11:21] <lordievader> Whoo 4.13 beta \o/ good luck!
[11:24] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084168/
[11:25] <sgclark> Riddell: nm found a whitespace
[11:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lintian running on Qt4 X11 for Precise
[11:49] <shadeslayer> will upload once done
[11:49] <shadeslayer> takes forever
[11:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: the state issue after formatting is a weird timing issue in the udisk backend
[11:50] <apachelogger> and the udisk backend features shitty code so I'll pretend I did not notice the bug
[11:52] <shadeslayer> afternoon
[11:55] <sgclark> Riddell: or anyone http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084268/ these *.so files do not exist that I can find
[11:57] <shadeslayer> that looks very wrong
[11:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Qt4 uploaded too
[11:58] <shadeslayer> for precise
[11:59] <shadeslayer> time to do some shitty cards
[11:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: mvo replied
[11:59] <shadeslayer> he's on vacation
[11:59] <shadeslayer> so he can update app-install-data when he comes back
[12:00] <shadeslayer> or I find a hard disk big enough to sync the ubuntu archive
[12:04] <agateau> Riddell: \o/
[12:05] <Riddell> ScottK: could you eye up 1291899 and consider it for approval?
[12:05] <Riddell> bug 1291899
[12:06] <ubottu> bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899
[12:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: got cards
[12:10] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/0tn1vYPN
[12:10] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/3AzLURPE
[12:10] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/eraSkldV
[12:10] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/cRbKZu1b
[12:10] <ScottK> Riddell: I can look at it tomorrow.  Please remind me.
[12:10] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/jddah0bu
[12:11] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/wWH7ZL58
[12:11] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/x9bRWtJ7
[12:11] <shadeslayer> I wouldn't have a clue on https://trello.com/c/3AzLURPE
[12:11] <apachelogger> general l10n snauf https://trello.com/b/ZgXtyUW4/14-04-l10n-review-2
[12:11] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/fMDTZ5xf
[12:12] <apachelogger> random bug of the day: find out why python3.4 broke pyqt and get that fixed
[12:12] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/P3vuIfXB
[12:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you would start with reproducing the problem
[12:12] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)
[12:12] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[12:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that's all fine, but what next :P
[12:13] <shadeslayer> wait what
[12:13] <apachelogger> trying to get rid fo the spacing issue
[12:13] <shadeslayer> when did I start doing https://trello.com/c/4uolHmD6
[12:13] <shadeslayer> though quite an important card ^^
[12:13] <apachelogger> then reduce amount of stuff neeeded to reduce the spacing issue
[12:13] <apachelogger> then make deductions and/or file bugs
[12:13] <apachelogger> on that note, perhaps first check if upstream hs a bug
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:59] <jmux> Riddell: just some update on the Qt patch. I did have a longer IRC chat yesterday (from 23:30 - 1:30). I've - again - rewritten the unit test. Well - the patch is "looks good - someone else must approve", so basically they wait for the unit test.
[12:59] <jmux> I definitly read more Qt code, I wanted...
[13:02] <Riddell> jmux: you're a brave man :)
[13:31] <Riddell> another reason to get 4.13 in the archive quick, kwallet upgraded format and in testing the daily ISO today it got confused
[13:34] <Riddell> apachelogger: I really wish I knew what the incomplete-language-pack installer was installing when it installs stuff
[13:34] <Riddell> ah hah, if you look at the right time qapt does tell you
[13:34] <Riddell> all those gnome language packs
[13:35]  * apachelogger munches cake
[13:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: qapt doesn't do it very well
[13:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: the dialog for codecs and stuff is actually a reimplemnetation of qapt-batch just to have the user informed
[13:36] <apachelogger> less useful for language-pack because you don't get a way around installing them anyway ^^
[13:43] <sgclark> Riddell: These are the final items I am stuck on. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084699/
[13:46]  * Riddell looks
[13:49] <Riddell> sgclark: nothing new in that circular dependency, debian have it too http://lintian.debian.org/tags/intra-source-package-circular-dependency.html
[13:49] <jmux> Riddell: Oh - BTW - I might have discovered an other Qt bug, I need to get fixed...
[13:49]  * jmux reading more Qt code
[13:50] <Riddell> jmux: udisks2 got updated in precise backports by the way
[13:51] <Riddell> sgclark: the dev-pkg-without-shlib-symlink are fine, we don't want to install the dev symlink for them as nothing uses them and there's no ABI stability
[13:51] <Riddell> sgclark: so ignore the circular-dependency for now, should get fixed but we seem to be able to live with it
[13:51] <Riddell> sgclark: and override the dev-pkg-without-shlib-symlink if you want
[13:51] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, kdepim coming up shortly
[13:54] <jmux> Riddell: Yeah - I saw that yesterday - thanks for that. So now the qt patch will go into precise-backports too, right... ;-)
[13:54] <Riddell> jmux: yes, shadeslayer was just saying he was about to upload it
[13:54]  * Riddell looks to shadeslayer to confirm
[13:55] <Riddell> jmux: actually it's aimed for precise-updates in the main archive
[13:58] <jmux> But there is also a qt4-x11 in kubuntu-backports precise 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6 
[13:59] <jmux> As long as I can get the corrected version from some archive, I'm fine.
[14:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ↑
[14:11] <shadeslayer> jmux: ah, I haven't updated the ppa version
[14:54]  * Riddell uploads 4.12.80 to saucy in ninjas
[14:54] <Riddell> but lack of reporting tool will hurt
[15:06] <sgclark> Riddell: kdepim ready
[15:07] <Riddell> sgclark: yay!
[15:15] <Riddell> "Add new storageservicemanager package" do we want that on the install images?
[15:16] <sgclark> They are quite popular
[15:16] <sgclark> imo
[15:19] <sgclark> Riddell: I am not feeling well and need to nap a bit :( , email me if you have questions or concerns.
[15:19] <Riddell> sgclark: have a snooze, you've deserved it
[15:20] <sgclark> ty
[15:26] <Riddell> wgrant: any thoughts on why our launchpad automation script doesn't work from our server today but does locally with the same credentials? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/error.txt
[15:30] <soee_> Riddell: and for trusty ? (4.12.80) ?
[15:31] <Riddell> soee_: it's all up and needs testing, want to test?
[15:31] <soee_> sure
[15:31] <Riddell> !testers | 4.12.80 for trusty in ninjas
[15:31] <ubottu> 4.12.80 for trusty in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley  for information
[15:31] <Riddell> soee_: got ninjas access details?
[15:31] <soee_> nope i lost it 
=== soee_ is now known as soee
[15:31] <Riddell> soee: voila
[15:37] <soee> downloading
[15:47] <soee> no errors while downloading/upgrading
[15:47] <soee> reboot
[15:51] <soee> Riddell: smooth upgrade
[15:59] <Riddell> soee: everything working?
[15:59] <Riddell> soee: can you tag files in dolphin and gwenview and have the tags shared between the two?
[16:02] <soee> ah didnt test that
[16:02] <soee> Dolphin crashes 
[16:03] <Riddell> oh erk
[16:03] <soee> Dolphin crashed when i added tag but it was stored in tags list
[16:04] <soee> than i coould select it in gwenview 
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I must have dumped the ninjas ppa a while back, or is it the /kubuntu-ppa/experimental/?
[16:04] <Riddell> BluesKaj: /msged
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ok Riddell, thanks
[16:06] <Riddell> soee: can you search for files in dolphin with the Find button?
[16:07] <soee> CTRL + F ?
[16:08] <Riddell> soee: yes
[16:08] <lordievader> Lets see if I can update to 4.12.80 in a chroot :)
[16:09] <soee> i think it returns a lot wrong files
[16:09] <Riddell> yes I think I agree
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
[16:26] <soee> what is baloo_file_extractor ?
[16:26] <manchicken1> Should I start moving my dev machine to 14.04? I've still got it in 13.10.
[16:26] <Riddell> manchicken1: yep :)
[16:26] <manchicken1> I'll do that then.
[16:26] <Riddell> soee: new search engine indexer
[16:26] <manchicken1> I'll upgrade it tomorrow night probably.
[16:26] <soee> oh ok :)
[16:29] <cortexA9> hello all
[16:31] <Riddell> hi cortexA9 
[16:31] <cortexA9> hey Riddell 
[16:32] <cortexA9> Riddell:  i think my issue with sleep mode it's partially resolved.
[16:32] <Riddell> oh?
[16:32] <cortexA9> Riddell: after some minutes.. it work.
[16:33] <cortexA9> Riddell: need only to wait :)
[16:33] <cortexA9> idk why Riddell 
[16:38] <BluesKaj> KDE 4.12.8.0 seems to have installed fine, all is ok so far
[16:39] <soee> yup but there are ssues with tags and baloo i think
[16:40] <soee> hmm my hdd seems to go crazy now
[16:41] <Riddell> soee: what's running?
[16:41] <Riddell> I expect top will say baloo is indexing
[16:41] <soee> Riddell: baloo processes each taks 1,5 Gb ram
[16:42] <soee> they eat whole almost ram
[16:42] <shadeslayer> vHanda: ^^
[16:42] <vHanda> soee: which one?
[16:42] <vHanda> akonadi_baloo_indexer?
[16:42] <vHanda> or baloo_file?
[16:42] <soee> i killed 3 have more running
[16:42] <soee> baloo_file_indexer
[16:42] <soee> sorry
[16:43] <soee> *extractor
[16:43] <vHanda> oh boy. That's going to be slightly hard to debug.
[16:43] <vHanda> could you please do a ps aux and get the full command which was used to launch the offending baloo_file_extractor?
[16:43] <soee> ok 4 left, each 12% cpu and ~ 300ram
[16:43] <cortexA9> Project Neon right?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> cortexA9: nope
[16:45] <cortexA9> Kubuntu Linux provides packages for testing via Project Neon
[16:45] <soee> vHanda: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7085640/ ?
[16:46] <soee> this 4 are growing, noe around 1gb ram each
[16:50] <soee> ok now 2 left, and some more from time to time are showing, hiding
[16:52] <vHanda> seaLne: choose one which was very large and then run balooshow on those numbers
[16:52] <vHanda> you'll then have to manually run baloo_file_extractor on each of those numbers and see which was the offending file
[16:53] <soee> now they are more stable, 2 and each ~ 500mb
[16:54] <soee> vHanda: is it possible that the VB virtual drivers cause this ?
[16:55] <soee> like /home/soee/VirtualBox VMs/Kubuntu - testing/Kubuntu - testing.vbox
[16:57] <cortexA9> why i can't install packages of project neon ?
[16:57] <cortexA9> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:00] <cortexA9> added the repository before
[17:12] <vHanda> soee: could be, though we do not have any indexed for them
[17:22] <soee> ok i think it finished work 
[17:22] <soee> last 5 minutes my pc was freezed
[17:23] <soee> the reason was problalby ram - whole taken by baloo_file_extractor procs
[17:24] <soee> buty now all works stable as usual
[17:30] <lordievader> 4.12.80 is installed and booted. No problems installing it or netbooting it.
[17:30] <cortexA9> uh lordievader what ppa?
[17:31] <lordievader> The ninja private one.
[17:31] <cortexA9> oh ok lordievader :)
[17:32] <BluesKaj> is there a ninja GPG key to add so I can rid of the annoying message during updates?
[17:33] <lordievader> BluesKaj: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key-ids>
[17:34] <BluesKaj> lordievader, i have the command , just need the key 
[17:34] <lordievader> When you run apt-get update he tells you the key-id he is missing.
[17:36] <BluesKaj> yes, that why i asked
[17:37] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Could you pastebin the output of apt-get update?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> KDE 4.12.80 installed fine lordievader, I just want to get rid of the error message
[17:42] <lordievader> BluesKaj: That's why I asked for the output so I could give you the full command to add the pgp key.
[17:43] <BluesKaj> just need the XXXXX number/code
[17:43] <BluesKaj> that's all
[17:44] <lordievader> BluesKaj: That's why I asked for the output... Since my gpg fails to list keys..
[17:46] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I pm'd it 
=== TheDrums is now known as DalekSec
[18:26] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)
[18:48] <ahoneybun> apachelogger, there is a bug in kubuntu-docs
[18:49] <ahoneybun> should I file or just tell you?
[18:50] <Mirv> Qt 5.2 landing to -proposed now
[19:02] <tester56_> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.80_trusty.html    :-((
[19:03] <yofel> still? Lets see if a cache wipe will fix that
[19:04] <tester56_> yofel: will 4.13 be shipped in tommorrows iso?
[19:04] <yofel> no
[19:05] <tester56_> yofel: is there a way to help out somehow?
[19:05] <yofel> not really, it's ~done. Now bug 1291899 needs to be approved, then upload it, wait for it to build, wait for it to migrate to release and then it'll be on the next image
[19:06] <ubottu> bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899
[19:10] <tester56_> yofel: "Most applications have been ported to Baloo and we expect to drop Nepomuk features from those which have not which are currently Amarok, Digikam and Plasma Media Centre."  Sounds like nepomuk wont be inlcuded in the default iso
[19:11] <yofel> so far it will, we can either ship it, or not ship it at all
[19:11] <tester56_> strange ... how can I quit when I am still online :D
[19:11] <yofel> a ghost was there :P
[19:12] <yofel> status page fixed
[19:12] <tester56_> yofel: if baloo works as aspected I would vote for dropping nepomuk
[19:13] <tester56_> yofel: thanks
[19:13] <yofel> it depends whether we want to drop semantics support for PMC - which we might do
=== rdieter is now known as rdieter_work
[21:00] <Riddell> 4.13 beta 2 is out!
[21:05] <soee> !
[21:06]  * Riddell runs automation script
[21:06] <soee> we need some info @ kubuntu.org
[21:06] <Riddell> soee: did you try kdepim from 4.13 beta 1 ?
[21:06] <soee> this one is the first beta i have from 4.13 line
[21:07] <Riddell> soee: yes, did you try kontact?
[21:07] <soee> uh im not using it, i jsut opend it and closed :)
[21:07] <soee> im @thunderbird because i had a lot of problems last time i tried kontact
[21:18] <soee> Riddell: what exactly can be wrong with kontact ? I just configured one account and messages are downloading
[21:18] <Riddell> soee: great, I hope nothing is wrong with it :)
[21:18] <Riddell> soee: but the main change is the switch to the new baloo search engine again, so if you can test searches that would be lovely
[21:20] <soee> wait i clicked on Diary section or how it is called originaly and app freezed 
[21:20] <Riddell> wibble
[21:21] <soee> cope it as callendat i think, after 2 minutes it works 
[21:23] <soee> 4.13b2 is ready also for raring ?
[21:24] <Riddell> 4.13 beta 2 is being prepared on my computer for trusty, it won't be packaged for raring
[21:25] <soee> i thoought iv seens someone said it will be :)
[21:39] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291526] could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 (by solazs)
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[22:25] <soee> ksmserver ?
[22:31] <soee> uhm,  nvidia-prime upgrade ... hope it wont break system :)
[22:34] <soee> kontact has some problems 
[22:48] <ahoneybun> howdy
[22:52] <Riddell> hi ahoneybun 
[22:52] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell 
[22:53] <ahoneybun> I see why langs do not show up on khelpcenter with our docs
[22:53] <ahoneybun> at least with danish
[22:55] <soee> Riddell: it took 5 min to load kontact this time http://paste.ubuntu.com/7087358/
[22:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell, khelpcenter is looking in the wrong location for different langs
[22:56] <ahoneybun> always in the en directory
[23:03] <Riddell> ahoneybun: do you have danish language set?
[23:04] <Riddell> soee: hum
[23:04] <ahoneybun> Riddell, I installed the package and set it in khelpcenter
[23:04] <Riddell> ahoneybun: do applications use danish language?
[23:05] <ahoneybun> not system just khelpcenter
[23:05] <ahoneybun> you can set it for just center applications
[23:05] <ahoneybun> *certain
[23:06] <soee> Riddell: i think the reason might be aggregator with some invalid entries
[23:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: how?
[23:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: setting it just for 1 application might mean it doesn't get used for searching for help docs
[23:08] <ahoneybun> somewhere in the help menu
[23:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: mm yes, always a weird feature that
[23:08] <ahoneybun> well just using the help center the topics on the side we changed
[23:09] <ahoneybun> shows the topics as the lang but can;t find the doc that the lang is asking for
[23:10] <ahoneybun> always looks in /usr/share/kde/HTML/"something docs"/en
[23:14] <Riddell> ahoneybun: try switching the whole desktop language
[23:14] <ahoneybun> will when I get a working vm
[23:14] <ahoneybun> can;t get full screen in vm to work at all
[23:15] <Riddell> don't use stretch for full screen, it caused everything to freeze when I tried it
[23:17] <ahoneybun> no like I can't use it at all the option is blacked out in the menu of vb
[23:18] <wgrant> Riddell: What's broken?
[23:20] <Riddell> wgrant: wah it fixed itself!
[23:20] <Riddell> how annoying