* Squirm looks around | 05:18 | |
bduk | More almal | 05:37 |
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ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 05:53 |
Spekko | Maaz: Coffee on | 06:15 |
* Maaz washes some mugs | 06:15 | |
Spekko | morning all | 06:15 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for Spekko! | 06:19 |
Spekko | Maaz domo arigato | 06:19 |
Maaz | do- itashi mashite Spekko san | 06:19 |
Squirm | Maaz: coffee on | 06:26 |
* Maaz starts grinding coffee | 06:26 | |
Squirm | Maaz: massive | 06:26 |
Maaz | Squirm: What? | 06:26 |
Squirm | Maaz: largest | 06:26 |
Maaz | Whew do you want a bath full Squirm? | 06:26 |
Squirm | Maaz: botsnack | 06:26 |
Maaz | Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp | 06:26 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for Squirm! | 06:30 |
inetpro | good mornings | 06:56 |
jabberwocky93 | morning inetpro | 07:05 |
nlsthzn | alo | 07:29 |
Vince-0 | ! | 09:13 |
=== somaunn is now known as somaunn_ | ||
somaunn_ | hello guys | 09:40 |
somaunn_ | hi nuvolari | 09:40 |
somaunn_ | hi drubin | 09:40 |
somaunn_ | hi inetpro | 09:40 |
somaunn_ | hi superfly | 09:40 |
superfly | hi somaunn_ | 09:48 |
somaunn_ | what's new here | 09:51 |
sakhi | hi somaunn_ | 10:03 |
somaunn_ | Hi sakhi | 10:04 |
somaunn_ | what's new here ? | 10:05 |
Vince-0 | surp | 10:16 |
Vince-0 | same dizl | 10:16 |
Kilos | greetings superfly somaunn_ jabberwocky93 Spekko ThatGraemeGuy Vince-0 and others toooo | 10:34 |
Kilos | being unorthodox helps at times | 10:34 |
Spekko | Sup Kilos | 10:34 |
Kilos | inetpro ping | 10:34 |
inetpro | hi Kilos | 10:35 |
* Squirm pops his head in | 10:35 | |
Kilos | my d-link is working, but in a roundabout way | 10:35 |
Kilos | hi squirm | 10:35 |
Kilos | inetpro you wont believe | 10:35 |
inetpro | oh and hi Squirm, somaunn_ | 10:36 |
Kilos | i know whats wrong with the DWM-156 but dunno how to fix it | 10:36 |
inetpro | Kilos: tell us | 10:36 |
Kilos | but i have it online | 10:36 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hi | 10:36 |
Kilos | it isnt triggering usb-modeswitch | 10:36 |
inetpro | Kilos: tell the world | 10:36 |
inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: hi | 10:36 |
Kilos | so the unorthodox way around that prov is to use another modem as well that triggers modeswitch and then the d-link goes online | 10:37 |
Kilos | s/prov/prob | 10:37 |
jabberwocky93 | good afternoon Kilos | 10:38 |
Kilos | do you use this link with 8ta for balances and recharging? | 10:38 |
Kilos | https://kya.8ta.com/onnet/public/mobileData?sid=7163386960404486479 | 10:38 |
Kilos | that link shows my d-links info only even though nm sees zte and dlink as being online | 10:39 |
Kilos | does all of this make sense to you guys | 10:40 |
Squirm | Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put humpty together again | 10:40 |
Kilos | Squirm ? | 10:41 |
Kilos | am i gonna crash? | 10:41 |
Squirm | I don't know | 10:42 |
Squirm | I think I need to go to sleep | 10:42 |
Squirm | I was playing with espeak | 10:42 |
Kilos | lol | 10:42 |
Squirm | I'm too tired for this | 10:42 |
Squirm | work, I mean | 10:42 |
Squirm | actually I'm not too bad, just in a really good mood | 10:42 |
Squirm | the joys of sleep deprivation ^^ | 10:43 |
Kilos | hehe then work out what i do next man | 10:43 |
inetpro | sorry kilos, very difficult to help during working hours but maybe someone else can try | 10:45 |
Kilos | no man i dont need help | 10:46 |
Kilos | its online | 10:46 |
Kilos | inetpro just tell me if using one modem with no data on to trigger modeswitch to use the second modems data is crazy or not | 10:47 |
somaunn_ | hi Kilos | 10:47 |
Kilos | now i can tell the telkom device section that their 156 dont trigger modeswitch | 10:47 |
Kilos | i dont know if trigger is the right word | 10:48 |
Kilos | then ill tell the world how to fix things | 10:48 |
Kilos | inetpro vandag se reen kom van natal | 10:56 |
Spekko | http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.magicquotes.what.php | 10:57 |
Spekko | oops | 10:57 |
Spekko | my bad | 10:57 |
Kilos | hehe | 11:00 |
Kilos | btw we had no power since 8am and i hope its not just on while the power peeps are having lunch | 11:00 |
somaunn_ | bye bye all | 11:01 |
somaunn_ | coming in few hours | 11:01 |
charl | good afternoon | 11:10 |
charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:10 |
* Maaz puts the kettle on | 11:10 | |
charl | Spekko: really good to see they deprecated and later removed that feature - it was long overdue | 11:11 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 11:14 |
charl | Maaz: thanks | 11:17 |
Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 11:17 |
Kilos | hi charl | 11:26 |
Spekko | charl, yeah agreed, but I'm running 5.4, and my content is still being escaped. Starting to think someone is mucking around in the DB Class. | 11:28 |
inetpro | Kilos: when I say help I also mean to include respond | 11:36 |
Kilos | ok | 11:38 |
* Kilos in dog box again | 11:48 | |
charl | hi Kilos | 11:56 |
charl | Spekko: you can disable it, can't you? | 11:56 |
Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 12:07 |
nlsthzn | alo | 12:08 |
Kilos | what does dmesg do | 13:16 |
inetpro | man dmesg | 13:29 |
inetpro | it explains it very clearly | 13:30 |
inetpro | ok maybe not so clearly as the FreeBSD man page but you should get a good idea | 13:31 |
inetpro | Kilos: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmesg | 13:32 |
Kilos | ty | 13:33 |
Squirm | 45min | 13:43 |
Kilos | eish how does one get cutecom to see usb modems | 15:43 |
Kilos | mine shows /dev/ttyS1 to 4 and nothing else and they all cant open modems | 15:44 |
Kilos | hmm... | 17:27 |
Golynx | o/ | 17:32 |
Kilos | o/ | 17:33 |
Golynx | \o/ | 17:34 |
Golynx | how you doing uncle Kilos | 17:34 |
Kilos | very good ty and you Golynx | 17:35 |
Kilos | d-link working inna manner | 17:35 |
Trixar_za | How did you get it to work? | 17:36 |
Kilos | lekker fast | 17:36 |
Golynx | i'm okay ty | 17:36 |
Kilos | using 2 modems | 17:36 |
Kilos | one with no data to trigger modeswitch and the new one to do the work | 17:36 |
Trixar_za | That shouldn't work Oo | 17:37 |
Kilos | lol | 17:37 |
Trixar_za | As I understand it - the modem is already switched when it's plugged in on linux - it just doesn't have ports assigned | 17:38 |
Trixar_za | or something like that | 17:38 |
Trixar_za | :P | 17:38 |
Kilos | nm doesnt even see it is there | 17:39 |
Kilos | but with the zte and the dlink it works | 17:39 |
Trixar_za | Weird | 17:39 |
Trixar_za | I have a ZTE one too | 17:39 |
Kilos | nm shows 2 connections | 17:39 |
Trixar_za | an old K3570-Z | 17:40 |
Kilos | i still cant get sakis3g working though | 17:40 |
Trixar_za | So I haven't tested sakis3g with too many of them | 17:40 |
Trixar_za | My sister has one of the new d-link ones | 17:40 |
Kilos | and got latest ppa for nm and modeswitch | 17:40 |
Kilos | my zte is a mf190 but it keeps disconnecting when it feels like it | 17:41 |
Trixar_za | There might be a fix for it in the latest usb_modeswitch | 17:41 |
Trixar_za | what is the version number of the dlink again | 17:41 |
Trixar_za | so when I'm back on Linux I can check | 17:41 |
Kilos | if i unplug the zte connection dies | 17:41 |
Kilos | dwm-156 version 7 | 17:41 |
Kilos | sakis tell me i need libusb and or usb-compact | 17:42 |
=== jabberwocky93__ is now known as jabberwocky93 | ||
Kilos | i have lotsa lib-usb and usb-dev but still sakis dont work | 17:43 |
Trixar_za | The older usb_modeswitch needs the older libusb | 17:43 |
Trixar_za | Like I said, I have to upgrade it | 17:43 |
Trixar_za | And the device database while I'm at it | 17:43 |
Kilos | oh its not here | 17:43 |
Trixar_za | I can only imagine how many extra ones they add | 17:44 |
Trixar_za | added* | 17:44 |
Kilos | i thought you said i must get the latest modeswitch so i got the ppa | 17:44 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:44 |
Trixar_za | Technically sakis3g should be able to use the system usb_modeswitch, but since it's not compatible with the new database format | 17:45 |
Trixar_za | ... it can't really do anything | 17:45 |
Kilos | can it be because ive gone 64bit? | 17:46 |
Trixar_za | Unlikely | 17:46 |
Trixar_za | Sakis3g just can't read the new device database and use it | 17:47 |
Trixar_za | That's the biggest problem | 17:47 |
Kilos | anyway using 2 modems ive been connected all afternoon since about lunch time | 17:47 |
Trixar_za | It's also why I make my own custom one using the old file syntax | 17:47 |
Kilos | you got some savvy with modems | 17:47 |
Trixar_za | You should test the newest sakis3g when I finally make it | 17:47 |
Trixar_za | :P | 17:48 |
Kilos | what can be missing in the dlink that lets the pc see it needs to modeswitch | 17:48 |
Trixar_za | Kind of getting impatient, so I might just install something like Debian so I can fix it | 17:48 |
Kilos | its like its boot sector is missing | 17:49 |
Kilos | lemme know when you have done with new sakis and ill test it | 17:50 |
Trixar_za | Let me see about downloading a install disc :P | 17:50 |
Trixar_za | Well that's ironic | 17:54 |
Trixar_za | Debian XFCE's iso is smaller than Debian LXDE's iso | 17:54 |
Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 17:55 |
nlsthzn | good evening ZA channel and uncle Kilos | 17:55 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:55 |
Trixar_za | Anyway, bbl - going to go download thing thing quick :P | 17:55 |
Trixar_za | this* | 17:56 |
Kilos | ok | 17:56 |
nlsthzn | can't believe after four days of hopping hell I ended up using Ubuntu Gnome Edition 14.04 :p | 17:57 |
Kilos | why cant you believe it | 18:00 |
* jabberwocky93 slaps spekko__ with a large trout | 18:01 | |
* jabberwocky93 can't wait for stable weston on his raspberry pi! | 18:02 | |
jabberwocky93 | using omx player just isn't fun | 18:02 |
nlsthzn | because I am running Gnome 3 on purpose :p | 18:04 |
nlsthzn | just heads up - http://youtu.be/Gi9CXi1fBw8 - I have a few beta keys so if someone is really interested in trying out a new moba... | 18:04 |
* Golynx wonder if Debian XFCE is better than Ubuntu Xfce | 18:04 | |
Trixar_za | Right - should be an hour download | 18:04 |
nlsthzn | doubt it Golynx | 18:04 |
Trixar_za | <--- back on 3G | 18:05 |
Golynx | nlsthzn does the later have too much added on | 18:05 |
Trixar_za | nlsthzn: I have my own tastes | 18:05 |
Trixar_za | I like XFCE, but I hate it's parts (same with LXDE actually) | 18:06 |
Trixar_za | So I just use my own favorites like VLC, Deadbeef and gnome-mplayer | 18:06 |
nlsthzn | I think Xubuntu has a sane mix of applications... | 18:06 |
nlsthzn | and just that little bit of polish and preconfiguration making it awesome | 18:07 |
Trixar_za | My Windows and Linux settings should also be interchangeable | 18:08 |
Golynx | nlsthzn yeah sounds good | 18:08 |
nlsthzn | was playing with xubuntu 14.04 yesterday... they do multi-monitor support really well | 18:08 |
nlsthzn | or at least xfce 4.10 does :[ | 18:09 |
nlsthzn | :p | 18:09 |
Golynx | but a bit of gnome added in wont hurt | 18:09 |
Trixar_za | I've made an effort to use multi-platform software like Hexchat and Claws-mail | 18:09 |
Trixar_za | I'm just waiting for rubuntu | 18:09 |
Trixar_za | As in razorQt Ubuntu | 18:09 |
Trixar_za | :P | 18:09 |
nlsthzn | well... it is just an apt-get away ;) | 18:10 |
Trixar_za | True... :P | 18:10 |
Kilos | hi psydroid | 18:12 |
Kilos | nlsthzn is 14.04 unity worse than 12.04 | 18:12 |
Kilos | i like unity if i hasnt got all the eye candy in | 18:13 |
nlsthzn | new unity much much faster | 18:14 |
nlsthzn | since 13.10 much better | 18:14 |
psydroid | hi Kilos | 18:14 |
psydroid | hi nlsthzn | 18:15 |
psydroid | hi Trixar_za | 18:15 |
nlsthzn | hey psydroid | 18:15 |
* psydroid is waiting for 14.04 to be released before he upgrades | 18:15 | |
nlsthzn | I have now run Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Gnome edition 14.04 :p | 18:15 |
nlsthzn | with the new automated testing breakage is almost non existant | 18:16 |
psydroid | :D | 18:17 |
psydroid | that's awesome | 18:17 |
psydroid | and much needed as well | 18:18 |
nlsthzn | still a rough edge or two as you can imagine | 18:18 |
nlsthzn | unity didn't get much attention... still unity 7, some new scopes ... | 18:18 |
nlsthzn | night all :) | 18:22 |
Trixar_za | Night nlsthzn | 18:22 |
Kilos | night nlsthzn | 18:22 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 18:22 |
Kilos | bot time again | 18:24 |
Maaz | Kilos: Sorry... | 18:24 |
Kilos | hi bereavement | 18:24 |
Kilos | hmm... | 18:25 |
psydroid | night nlsthzn | 18:26 |
Golynx | :O | 18:29 |
psydroid | hi Golynx | 18:29 |
psydroid | bye bereavement | 18:29 |
Golynx | hi psydroid | 18:29 |
psydroid | forever ... | 18:30 |
Golynx | lol | 18:30 |
Kilos | ya good | 18:31 |
Kilos | that was done by freenode hey | 18:31 |
Kilos | just got a mail from sourceforge resources that talks about the bot threat | 18:32 |
Kilos | Some of the most serious threats networks face today are "bots," | 18:33 |
Golynx | ya, and "AI" gets better everyday | 18:34 |
Golynx | smart bots is not good, in the wrong hands | 18:34 |
Kilos | had another one about nsa jacking bots and using them to spy | 18:34 |
Trixar_za | You know | 18:35 |
Trixar_za | I just realized that Liam backwards is mail | 18:35 |
Kilos | lol | 18:35 |
Kilos | so liamT is tmail | 18:35 |
Trixar_za | That's how I noticed it | 18:36 |
Kilos | but he chats here sometimes | 18:36 |
Trixar_za | lol | 18:36 |
Trixar_za | It's more fun if it was LiamG | 18:36 |
Kilos | liamT you not a bot hey? | 18:36 |
Kilos | lol | 18:36 |
Kilos | i dont like peeps craqshing freenode | 18:36 |
Kilos | wish they could auto kline them on entry | 18:37 |
Kilos | this was the 9th one in a week and a bit here | 18:37 |
Trixar_za | I wouldn't worry if it was just one or two at a time | 18:38 |
Kilos | they planning another big ddos i think | 18:38 |
Trixar_za | It's when you get a flood of like 10 or more that you should be worried about line or part flooding | 18:38 |
Kilos | they mustnt even be allowed to enter | 18:38 |
Trixar_za | Anyway - bbl - going to install now | 18:38 |
Kilos | ok | 18:38 |
Trixar_za | and if I don't see you - goodnight :P | 18:38 |
Kilos | enjoy and ty Trixar_za | 18:39 |
* Trixar_za downloads his own sakis3g just in case | 18:39 | |
Kilos | hehe | 18:39 |
Kilos | where is the package | 18:39 |
Kilos | i like the just in case | 18:39 |
Kilos | hi superfly | 18:39 |
Kilos | wb psydroid_ | 18:40 |
psydroid_ | ty Kilos | 18:41 |
superfly | hi Kilos | 18:42 |
Kilos | inetpro praat gou voor jy te moeg is | 18:44 |
psydroid_ | hi superfly | 18:54 |
superfly | hi | 18:55 |
Golynx | hey superfly | 18:55 |
Golynx | superfly did you use flask with apache or nginx | 18:58 |
superfly | Golynx: it depends | 18:59 |
superfly | Golynx: at CareerJunction they use Apache with mod_wsgi, it's probably the most technically mature solution | 18:59 |
superfly | I've used Flask with nginx and Phusion Passenger | 19:00 |
Golynx | i used a old mod_wsgi file i had already but gave out errors. So i just installed a new one | 19:01 |
Golynx | ah thanks , i will use apache then | 19:01 |
somaunn_ | Hi all | 19:04 |
somaunn_ | hi Kilos | 19:04 |
Kilos | wb somaunn_ | 19:04 |
somaunn_ | thanks Kilos | 19:04 |
somaunn_ | guess what ? | 19:04 |
Kilos | what? | 19:05 |
somaunn_ | i'm installing Ubuntu on my close friend Laptop | 19:05 |
somaunn_ | she gave up with Windows today | 19:06 |
somaunn_ | too much of nonsens she said | 19:06 |
Golynx | \o/ | 19:06 |
jabberwocky93 | it will be fun they said | 19:06 |
Golynx | hi somaunn_ | 19:06 |
somaunn_ | the install process is quite good now but still i found it a bit slow | 19:06 |
somaunn_ | hi Golynx | 19:06 |
somaunn_ | i found it more friendly than 12.10 (where i actually stop using ubuntu) | 19:08 |
Kilos | lol | 19:08 |
Kilos | sooner or later everyone will be sick up and fed with windows | 19:10 |
somaunn_ | yeah you right | 19:10 |
Kilos | just taking a long time | 19:10 |
somaunn_ | but still there is a need for us to brign with sort of order in the linux world | 19:10 |
Kilos | but everyone that gets converted converts a couple more once they understand ubuntu | 19:11 |
Kilos | i dont think one can do much about order in the linux world because there are too many systems and everyone is free to do his own thing | 19:12 |
Kilos | its like trying to get a pack of untrained dogw to pull a sled | 19:13 |
Kilos | dogs | 19:13 |
Kilos | or even untrained oxen to pull a plow | 19:14 |
inetpro | Kilos: ek praat | 19:14 |
inetpro | maar waaroor? | 19:14 |
inetpro | good evening | 19:14 |
Kilos | naand inetpro hoe gaan dit | 19:14 |
inetpro | baie goed en daar? | 19:15 |
inetpro | sorry that I'm late | 19:15 |
* inetpro was at lent service | 19:15 | |
* inetpro now reading through the backlogs | 19:17 | |
somaunn_ | Kilos: to be free doesn't mean the Chaos must reign | 19:18 |
Kilos | anper wonderlik | 19:18 |
Kilos | amper ook | 19:18 |
Kilos | die modem is vinnig | 19:18 |
Kilos | lol elke keer wat ek nog iets probeer het het ek telkom laat weet dit en dit doen dat | 19:18 |
Kilos | en hulle het gese dankie | 19:18 |
Kilos | nou met die twee modems antwoord hulle nie | 19:18 |
Kilos | np inetpro | 19:18 |
Kilos | you here now | 19:18 |
Kilos | sjoe | 19:18 |
somaunn_ | Linux is doing better and even more than what we hope | 19:18 |
Kilos | i agree somaunn_ but it peeps are rahter a different breed | 19:18 |
somaunn_ | but i think it's time to come with more order and even well organized stuffs | 19:18 |
Kilos | you try getting 2 million peeps to pull together | 19:19 |
inetpro | somaunn_: what do you suggest we do? | 19:20 |
somaunn_ | Kilos: possible ... very possible ... look what governement are doing all arround the world | 19:20 |
Kilos | thats going into politics but all govts are controlled | 19:21 |
Golynx | didn't Mark Shuttleworth try to bring order to linux with Unity or even Ubuntu | 19:21 |
Kilos | Golynx remember when you strated here how hardegat you were | 19:22 |
inetpro | somaunn_: do you work for government? | 19:22 |
Kilos | most it peeps are like that | 19:22 |
Golynx | Kilos lol yeah :p | 19:22 |
Kilos | you lucky i have mellowed with age | 19:22 |
Golynx | for me it was hard to switch from windows, but now i'm comfortable with linux. | 19:23 |
Golynx | Windows not even on my brain anymore lol | 19:23 |
Kilos | i had the same prob with my daughter | 19:23 |
Kilos | now she has no choice but to use windows for her work but now she loves ubuntu | 19:24 |
Kilos | and see how you have mellowed | 19:24 |
Kilos | old saying "lead by example" | 19:25 |
Kilos | the fly is a pro at that | 19:25 |
Golynx | hehe ya true | 19:25 |
inetpro | Kilos: oh wow, is your daughter now back on Ubuntu again? | 19:26 |
Kilos | she has it still on her old pc but the one that was donated for her art stuff and the tablet drawing thing is windows | 19:27 |
Kilos | if she hadda bought a wacom tablet before going ubuntu she would still be using ubuntu | 19:27 |
superfly | I dual-booted for a while. then some error cropped up in Windows with my sound (worked perfectly in Linux, so it wasn't my hardware) and I stopped booting into Windows. 6 months later I removed my windows partition because it was just taking up space | 19:29 |
inetpro | somaunn_: there are some very good examples of government OSS initiatives out there indeed | 19:29 |
Kilos | somaunn_ where you went?? | 19:33 |
somaunn_ | an international conference where all LINUX dev will sit together and work with others to bring such solide and reliable solutions | 19:44 |
somaunn_ | inetpro: no i don't but i'm close to those peoples from few countries in africa (not really an example) but still it's the same concept | 19:45 |
somaunn_ | Kilos: i'm here | 19:45 |
somaunn_ | busy fixing few stuffs | 19:45 |
somaunn_ | my ubuntu install just causing problem | 19:45 |
Kilos | ah thought you went to sleep | 19:45 |
somaunn_ | look like the DVD is scac | 19:45 |
Kilos | oh my | 19:45 |
Kilos | usb usbs for installing | 19:46 |
Kilos | use | 19:46 |
Kilos | get unetbootin and make bootable usb sticks for ubuntu | 19:46 |
somaunn_ | inetpro: these gov OSS are just a pretext for those folks to 1st drop their cost down (good thing if they redistribute to populations) 2nd to also try and control the majority by using the same tools | 19:47 |
somaunn_ | what the minority really like is to control the majority | 19:48 |
somaunn_ | and we are the majority | 19:48 |
Golynx | Bill Gates is probably spreading the "Windows way" while spraying his cash all over Africa | 19:48 |
somaunn_ | africa is the last block that MS want to control | 19:50 |
liamT | Kilos: nope not a bot | 19:51 |
Kilos | lol cool wb | 19:51 |
Kilos | weve had a run of bots here | 19:52 |
Kilos | inetpro did you see last bot was klined | 19:52 |
Kilos | sommer gou ook | 19:52 |
inetpro | no | 19:53 |
Kilos | [20:29] <-- bereavement has left this server (K-Lined). | 19:53 |
Kilos | maybe freenode is also watching them now | 19:53 |
Golynx | they talked about the bot problem in ##freenode last week | 19:54 |
Golynx | so your right Kilos | 19:54 |
Kilos | yay | 19:55 |
Golynx | :) | 19:56 |
* Kilos falling asleep here | 20:00 | |
Kilos | night ll. sleep tight | 20:00 |
Kilos | see ya tomorrow | 20:00 |
Kilos | night all as well | 20:00 |
somaunn_ | bye bye | 20:04 |
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