| brainwash | because people might install light-locker on non xubuntu systems | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| brainwash | I would like to revert the "invalid" status, just not sure what your thoughts are | 00:05 |
| ochosi | personally i'm not sure whether people really *need* the UI | 00:07 |
| ochosi | the settings are actually quite simple | 00:07 |
| ochosi | and anyway, that would be up to the ubuntu packagers who maintain light-locker | 00:07 |
| brainwash | so it's "whishlist" | 00:08 |
| ochosi | i don't see any trouble in adding it as a recommend | 00:08 |
| ochosi | so if you want, re-assign it to light-locker as wishlist and comment on why you do it | 00:08 |
| brainwash | because of the initial bug description :D | 00:09 |
| brainwash | ochosi: can you please remove light-locker-settings from the Affects list | 00:27 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: do you consider to fix bug 1280607 for trusty? | 00:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1280607 in Catfish "Case insensitive search for non english file names doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280607 | 00:38 |
| brainwash | or are there some drawbacks when you switch to python3? | 00:38 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: a lack of python3-zeitgeist | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | but thats not a necessary item | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | so I am going to discuss that with Noskcaj | 00:39 |
| brainwash | no one likes zeitgeist anyway :) | 00:39 |
| brainwash | but maybe the problem could be fixed in python2 | 00:40 |
| bluesabre | maybe, just need some investigation | 00:41 |
| brainwash | yeah, worth a try | 00:41 |
| bluesabre | lderan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/1291699 | 01:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1291699 in light-locker-settings (Ubuntu) "Please add python-psutil to Depends for light-locker-settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:11 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, pushed the MP with screensaver removed from chapters 11 & 12. That latest MP includes the changes in my earlier one... | 01:40 |
| jjfrv8 | so if they look good, I guess you only have to merge the latter one. | 01:41 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, I think all that's left to do is fix the settings manager references in the following chapters: | 01:42 |
| jjfrv8 | 2, 7, 8, 9 & 13 | 01:42 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, chapter 7 has an 'ndisgtk' entity for which I haven't yet created the 'wm-' counterpart. | 01:47 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, so if you get around to doing that chapter, you will have to create that entity. | 01:48 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, all those ^^ changes should only be adding icons and shouldn't affect translations - unless I've overlooked something. | 01:50 |
| knome | i'll do a test build | 01:53 |
| knome | the entities file messed up some of the translations earlier, but that's now fixed | 01:53 |
| Unit193 | jjfrv8: See my ping? | 01:53 |
| knome | was something easy to overlook, inheriting in multiple levels | 01:53 |
| jjfrv8 | Unit193, yes, thanks for the offer. I haven't been running makes on the final versions before I push, though. | 01:59 |
| Unit193 | jjfrv8: That'll be in the next proposal anyway, so some testing there might be good. | 02:22 |
| jjfrv8 | ok, will check it out. | 02:23 |
| micahg | hrm, sorry I miseed the meeting | 02:34 |
| bluesabre | hey micahg, are you terribly busy? | 02:39 |
| bluesabre | I've created the package for shimmer-themes-1.7.1 | 02:40 |
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1291739 | 02:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1291739 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] shimmer-themes-1.7.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:40 |
| bluesabre | I don't suppose you could upload it? | 02:40 |
| micahg | I think I have to reproduce that one to upload since it needs the orig tarballs | 02:43 |
| micahg | hrm, that's an interesting branch | 02:44 |
| micahg | bluesabre: is there somewhere I can verify the tarballs? | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I just attached everything to the bug with those type of things. Sometimes they'll work if you can uscan the orig. | 02:47 |
| bluesabre | micahg: what do you mean? | 02:48 |
| bluesabre | this package has always been complicated, I had to do the same with shimmer-themes-1.6.2 | 02:48 |
| micahg | bluesabre: are the tarballs tagged somewhere like git? | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | Oooh, there was a way to work with multi-origs, if I could just remember how... | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | oh yes, https://github.com/shimmerproject | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | each tarball is based on the latest download | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases | 02:50 |
| micahg | ok, great | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Albatross/releases | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Bluebird/releases | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Numix/releases | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Orion/releases | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | the wallpapers one is carried from 1.7.0 | 02:51 |
| Unit193 | create-empty-orig, that's the one. | 02:52 |
| bluesabre | yeah, that's what we've got there | 02:52 |
| bluesabre | and from the last time I had to do this, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1227402 | 02:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1227402 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Please update shimmer-themes to 1.6.2" [Undecided,Fix released] | 02:52 |
| bluesabre | I'll work at getting developer/upload rights before 14.10 :) | 02:53 |
| micahg | well, to prevent issues of mismatched tarballs, I have to verify the signatures against the originals | 02:53 |
| micahg | s/signatures/hashes/ | 02:54 |
| bluesabre | makes sense | 02:54 |
| micahg | actually, let me do this in the morning, I need to be up early anyways | 03:12 |
| Unit193 | Good rest, micahg. | 03:14 |
| bluesabre | thanks micahg, have a good night | 03:15 |
| Mirv | once again it's my patch pilot turn and there'a bunch of Xubuntu stuff here :) | 06:17 |
| Unit193 | I didn't do it this time! | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | \o. | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: Anything I can assist with, sir? | 06:18 |
| Mirv | at the rate pitti is doing what I believed to be preparing, no :) | 06:26 |
| Mirv | Unit193: maybe tell if you've checked throuh lp:~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-artwork/shimmer-themes-1.7.1 ? I'll be building and smoke-testing it, but I'm unfamiliar with it otherwise | 06:27 |
| Mirv | thunar and xfce4-places-plugin seem clear enough, I'll try to test the claimed fix somehow too | 06:27 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: I am not, but could glance at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/13/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t02:43 for a little background. | 06:32 |
| Unit193 | Wow, that's an amazingly small queue. | 06:33 |
| Mirv | Unit193: thanks for the background link, that should be enough | 06:40 |
| Unit193 | Great! (Mica may not have time, he's been under time constraints at work all this cycle.) | 06:41 |
| Mirv | ok, the tarballs match bit for bit the git upstream sources, check. | 07:01 |
| * Unit193 slips something else in. :P | 07:04 | |
| elfy | ochosi: I posted in the testing forum re the keyboard thing - try and get more eyes on it | 07:36 |
| Unit193 | elfy: See the short note about ibus and your issue? | 07:37 |
| elfy | yea fleetingly | 07:37 |
| elfy | which is great - but if it is ibus causing it - then that needs fixing | 07:38 |
| Unit193 | Good to find out first, though. | 07:43 |
| elfy | no idea how we could do that | 07:44 |
| brainwash | elfy: purge it | 07:50 |
| elfy | yes - but ... | 07:51 |
| elfy | will the damage have already been caused | 07:51 |
| elfy | and you could purge the world and still be left with US layout | 07:51 |
| elfy | conspiracy theorists ... | 07:51 |
| brainwash | well, it's ibus.. you know, ipad, itunes,... | 07:52 |
| brainwash | so it has to be bad :D | 07:52 |
| elfy | didn't think of that iHype side to it :p | 07:53 |
| Unit193 | Hah. :P | 07:55 |
| elfy | purging ihype works | 08:09 |
| elfy | I should have guessed at this poor attempt at world domination | 08:09 |
| elfy | not sure how to change what package the bug should be against | 08:11 |
| brainwash | ibus? | 08:12 |
| elfy | too early | 08:12 |
| elfy | what I meant was - I can't change the package that the bug is filed against :p | 08:12 |
| brainwash | which package is it? | 08:13 |
| elfy | at the moment console-setup | 08:13 |
| brainwash | mmh, isn't that used primary for the console.. | 08:14 |
| elfy | couldn't tell you - I asked people at the time - best guess was that | 08:15 |
| brainwash | does your keyboard layout problem also affect the login greeter? | 08:15 |
| elfy | no | 08:16 |
| elfy | so - how to change the package? or is it because I'm not in some lp group that I can't | 08:17 |
| brainwash | or simply add ibus to the list | 08:18 |
| elfy | which I don't know how to do | 08:18 |
| brainwash | first time lp user? :D | 08:18 |
| elfy | you know what - sod it | 08:18 |
| elfy | bbl | 08:18 |
| brainwash | can you please link the report, so I can read it | 08:18 |
| ochosi | brainwash_: it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1284635 | 09:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1284635 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Incomplete] | 09:24 |
| ochosi | yay, we really got a lot of stuff sponsored, we seem to be doing ok for UIF | 09:25 |
| bluesabre | yup, it's been moving pretty smoothly here lately :) | 09:50 |
| bluesabre | micahg, looks like you're off the hook :) | 09:51 |
| brainwash_ | oh snap, greeter screen remained visible for some additional seconds after login.. now I got 2 window entries in my windowlist | 10:04 |
| brainwash_ | ^ ochosi | 10:10 |
| bluesabre | brainwash_, I think the release I am working on should fix that, no? | 10:11 |
| brainwash_ | well, I thought that it was caused by the indicator stack not exiting properly | 10:16 |
| brainwash_ | checking logs now, noticed that lightdm runs this command: lightdm-unity8-session startxfce4 | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | oh, that might be a fancy new regression | 10:17 |
| brainwash_ | and unity-compositor is running too | 10:18 |
| brainwash_ | o.o | 10:18 |
| brainwash_ | I don't recall switching to mir/xmir | 10:19 |
| brainwash_ | so it's xmir, on top of that the indicator stuff did not terminate properly | 10:20 |
| brainwash_ | what a mess | 10:20 |
| brainwash_ | bluesabre: so we maybe need to re-assign bug 1290575 | 10:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1290575 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290575 | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | d'awwww I just marked it as fixed | 10:37 |
| brainwash_ | rebooted my system and now everything looks fine | 10:37 |
| brainwash_ | partially fixed :) | 10:38 |
| brainwash_ | the greeter is not the main target now (hopefully) | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | gppd | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | good | 10:39 |
| ochosi | haha, fun | 10:39 |
| brainwash_ | no way.. I did not even notice that xmir is now activated on my system | 10:42 |
| brainwash_ | but it may be unrelated and there is something wrong in lightdm itself | 10:43 |
| brainwash_ | ochosi: do you have xmir activated? | 10:44 |
| ochosi | nope, i can't imagine | 10:44 |
| brainwash_ | because you've also confirmed this problem with the 2 empty windows | 10:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, but i don't have xmir installed | 10:45 |
| ochosi | so how would i have it activated | 10:45 |
| ochosi | but yeah, it does seem like a lightdm regression | 10:45 |
| brainwash_ | nice | 10:45 |
| brainwash_ | finding the culprit is not that easy in this case :) | 10:46 |
| ochosi | anyhoo, please report your findings on the bugreport and then let's ask robert about it | 10:50 |
| knome | forestpiskie, commented on bug 1277154 | 11:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1277154 in xfce4-notes-plugin (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+W does not ask for confirmation on note delete" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277154 | 11:19 |
| brainwash_ | maybe we could drop bug 1271883 from the blueprint list | 11:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1271883 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Workspace Settings number keys do not work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271883 | 11:21 |
| knome | bug 1271979 too | 11:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1271979 in xfce4-sensors-plugin (Ubuntu) "Wrong color in xfce4-sensors panel bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271979 | 11:22 |
| brainwash_ | yeah, that's minor stuff and upstream needs to decide | 11:22 |
| knome | bug 1271883 would be nice to get fixed though | 11:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1271883 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Workspace Settings number keys do not work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271883 | 11:23 |
| knome | it's minor too, but it's still... annoying | 11:24 |
| brainwash_ | it has been always like this | 11:24 |
| knome | does it mean it's not a bug? | 11:24 |
| brainwash_ | I think it's not editable to prevent the user to add like 100 workspaces at once and crash the whole thing | 11:25 |
| knome | maybe it should be a different kind of widget then | 11:25 |
| brainwash_ | I don't expect any change | 11:27 |
| knome | i don't expect either, but it's not an invalid bug either | 11:27 |
| brainwash_ | no, more like "wishlist" :) | 11:27 |
| brainwash_ | the context menu of xfdesktop also only allows the user to add/remove workspaces one by one | 11:28 |
| brainwash_ | that's fine for 99.9% of all users | 11:29 |
| knome | that's not the point | 11:30 |
| brainwash_ | I know | 11:30 |
| knome | the point is that if there is a widget that normally allows inserting numbers, people would expect it to allow it now | 11:30 |
| brainwash_ | I mean that no one will complain about this bug | 11:30 |
| knome | and if it doesn't... | 11:30 |
| brainwash_ | it's not a deal breaker | 11:31 |
| knome | no | 11:31 |
| brainwash_ | Unit193: xmir is now enabled by default here, lightdm does not seems to respect the 10-unity-blabla.conf file | 12:00 |
| brainwash_ | I've installed it manually ofc | 12:02 |
| brainwash_ | and disabled it via the conf file long time ago | 12:03 |
| Unit193 | #type=unity no longer works? Hah, either bug or #ubuntu-mir | 12:39 |
| Mirv | I noticed there was recently an update to move the unity conf file to a location from where it actually gets removed when the package gets removed | 12:41 |
| Mirv | right, this one https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/2014-March/011557.html | 12:41 |
| wickz | after install autoresize the system won't restart. Vm seems to freeze. Happens intermittently on i386 test. | 12:42 |
| Unit193 | brainwash_: ^ | 12:42 |
| Unit193 | Needs a better disable method, that way moving the file wouldn't matter. :/ (not that it'll likely happen again, but every upgrade in theory will override if it's not marked as a conffile.) | 12:44 |
| slickymasterWork | hey Unit193 | 12:45 |
| Unit193 | slickymasterWork: Howdy. | 12:45 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: Thanks for linking. | 12:45 |
| brainwash_ | ah, thanks | 12:46 |
| Unit193 | (I only checked the mir package, not that one. >_>) | 12:46 |
| Unit193 | Uhh, it's not marked as a conffile, I'd purge it. | 12:49 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: Because it's in /usr/share, and not otherwise marked as a conffile, that means any changes to it are ignored as the file is "reset" with any updates, right? Or, is that any updates where the file is different? | 12:51 |
| Unit193 | (sorry for bugging.) | 12:51 |
| knome | anybody who can explain thoroughly what you need to do in order to be able to translate our docs? | 12:55 |
| knome | http://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1404DocCallTranslators | 12:56 |
| Mirv | Unit193: your understanding is as good as mine, the conffiles always require some pondering :) maybe that particular conf file is thought to always remain constant | 12:57 |
| Unit193 | It's in the instructions for how to disable it, but perhaps. | 12:59 |
| Unit193 | Thanks. | 13:00 |
| brainwash_ | knome: bug 1260341 is a high priority one, is this really appropriate? | 13:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1260341 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Tapping lower-right corner of touchpad causes a right-click" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260341 | 13:34 |
| brainwash_ | we can fix it easily in ubuntu, not sure what upstream thinks about it and how long it will take to get it approved | 13:36 |
| brainwash_ | and it's not a regression or something like that | 13:38 |
| Unit193 | Hmmm, got xfdesktop crashed with SIGSEGV in xfce_desktop_refresh() on login last night. | 13:42 |
| brainwash_ | Unit193: create a report | 13:45 |
| Unit193 | Could, but can't report to LP, PPA'd. | 13:45 |
| brainwash_ | update your ppa | 13:46 |
| brainwash_ | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=6583a1a632779e72ba6ecfa32a10f30980081876 | 13:47 |
| Unit193 | Dowh. | 13:50 |
| elfy | knome: yes - saw that | 13:51 |
| Mirv | ok, thanks folks, see you again probably during my next patch pilot or so ;) | 13:53 |
| Unit193 | :) | 13:54 |
| Unit193 | Plan is to stick with .10 appfinder, right? | 13:54 |
| Unit193 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-appfinder/commit/?id=8ef194e8fbf1652b27cf26c0a519c9be08631964 needless to say, this interests me. | 13:58 |
| Unit193 | Debugging. \o/ | 14:23 |
| Unit193 | brainwash_: Have a beginners guide to debugging, or anything else written on the subject. | 14:23 |
| schproodle | bug 1260341 | 15:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1260341 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Tapping lower-right corner of touchpad causes a right-click" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260341 | 15:10 |
| schproodle | testing ristretto: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases/1600/results | 15:11 |
| schproodle | several problems: do I file a bug for the testcase or for ristretto? | 15:12 |
| GridCube | did you had a problem with the testcase? | 15:13 |
| schproodle | well what fo you mean by "testcase". The instructions seem OK but there were many progblems with ristretto according to the instructions | 15:14 |
| schproodle | I am here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug | 15:14 |
| GridCube | then the bug should be on ristretto | 15:15 |
| schproodle | looks like the place to list problems | 15:15 |
| GridCube | if you find a typo on the testcase, or it makes a reference to something that you can't find, or makes no sense, then thats a testcase bug, if you find a bug in the program the testcase asked you to test, then the bug is in the program and should be reported accordingly | 15:16 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:16 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: what GridCube was asking you is if you think the issue concerns the testcas per si or oth the problem is specific to ristretto | 15:16 |
| schproodle | both, probably | 15:17 |
| schproodle | Bug 1292025 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1292025 could not be found | 15:17 |
| GridCube | exactly, if the testcase says "click on the + icon" but the plus icon is not there, then the bug can be in either, now if the + icon is there and the program fails, then the bug is on the program | 15:18 |
| schproodle | oh, status new | 15:18 |
| GridCube | schproodle, you have to give it a time to process | 15:18 |
| schproodle | yeah | 15:19 |
| schproodle | gotta do both then eh | 15:19 |
| schproodle | I will try to sort that. | 15:20 |
| schproodle | OK 'Ubuntu Manual Tests" bug AND ristretto bug with ubuntu-bug | 15:22 |
| schproodle | that it? | 15:22 |
| GridCube | i would guess, remember to add those numbers to your report on the tracker | 15:23 |
| schproodle | OK will do. Thanks :) | 15:24 |
| schproodle | Bug #1292073 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1292073 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "mouse wheel does not zoom image rather it goes back and forth through image list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292073 | 16:02 |
| schproodle | Bug #1292073 | 16:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1292073 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "ristretto: mouse wheel does not zoom image rather it goes back and forth through image list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292073 | 16:03 |
| slickymasterWork | schproodle: updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ristretto/+bug/1292073 | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1292073 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "ristretto: mouse wheel does NOT zoom image rather it goes back and forth through image list" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:42 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy: ^^^ | 16:45 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: see pm windows | 16:53 |
| knome | windows 8 prime minister edition? | 16:54 |
| elfy | brainwash_: I see you're aware of which bug I was talking about | 16:55 |
| brainwash_ | yes | 16:56 |
| brainwash_ | so lets blame ibus? | 16:59 |
| schproodle | Bug 1292070 | 16:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1292070 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Ristretto online documentation does NOT start browser and display help" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292070 | 16:59 |
| schproodle | where does this report belong as it is not a testcase problem per se | 17:00 |
| schproodle | seems to involve several systems let alone ristretto | 17:00 |
| elfy | brainwash_: seems to be the case | 17:02 |
| elfy | purging ibus - then keyboard layout works fine without an mucking about with keyboard settings | 17:03 |
| brainwash_ | bug 1291587 seems to be a similar case | 17:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1291587 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Cant change keyboard layout in live mode xubuntu 14.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291587 | 17:03 |
| brainwash_ | ibus acting weird | 17:04 |
| elfy | yea I saw that one this morning - japanese one? | 17:04 |
| brainwash_ | no | 17:07 |
| elfy | ok - sure I saw it - also saw a similar one but japanese | 17:08 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy: I'll have a MP for you to review, about what we were talking, by tomorrow | 17:09 |
| elfy | it'll be the weekend | 17:10 |
| slickymasterWork | thank god ;) | 17:10 |
| slickymasterWork | bbl -> | 17:16 |
| elfy | brainwash_: mmm - I'll boot todays daily and see if that's occuring - it definitely wasn't previously occuring | 17:19 |
| elfy | and I still have no idea how to change affected package in a bug | 17:19 |
| elfy | ;) | 17:19 |
| elfy | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/169356804/Screenshot%20-%2003132014%20-%2001%3A49%3A24%20PM.png | 17:20 |
| elfy | when I was fiddling about yesterday with that - I never actually saw the GB option - just the US one | 17:21 |
| brainwash_ | so GB could not be added via "Add"? | 17:27 |
| elfy | not seeing that here | 17:27 |
| brainwash_ | what about other variants of "en"? | 17:28 |
| elfy | brainwash_: no - you can add it fine via keyboard settings - and it works | 17:28 |
| elfy | but doesn't show in that ibus notification | 17:28 |
| brainwash_ | so we need to discuss the pros and cons of ibus in xubuntu | 17:29 |
| brainwash_ | and why it is enabled by default | 17:29 |
| elfy | I've just added GB and Belgian - neither show - looks like it's trying to | 17:30 |
| brainwash_ | run "ibus-setup" | 17:30 |
| elfy | http://imagebin.org/299150 | 17:31 |
| elfy | see above the US - looks like an odd area of white above a seperator | 17:31 |
| brainwash_ | but the settings dialog is from Xfce, the tray icon from ibus | 17:31 |
| brainwash_ | both are not in sync | 17:31 |
| brainwash_ | so please run "ibus-setup" | 17:31 |
| elfy | and do what? | 17:32 |
| brainwash_ | try to add another kb layout | 17:32 |
| elfy | ok that works | 17:32 |
| elfy | but that's a side issue in my opinion - my issue is that I install xubuntu or the other 2 - and the system then completely ignores what I've set it to | 17:33 |
| elfy | I don't care what ibus says - I want my installed system to be how I installed it - as would anyone else :) | 17:34 |
| brainwash_ | because ibus knows better and ignores the user | 17:34 |
| brainwash_ | :) | 17:34 |
| elfy | this has got indicator-sound-gtk2 for saucy written all over it :( | 17:35 |
| elfy | so how do you change the package affecting a bug then? | 17:36 |
| brainwash_ | so it needs be discussed in the next meeting | 17:36 |
| brainwash_ | you click on the little arrow next to the package name | 17:36 |
| brainwash_ | now you can edit the package name | 17:37 |
| elfy | I guess so - not sure what other languages it affects | 17:37 |
| elfy | I can't click on arrows - only the text | 17:38 |
| brainwash_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1284635/+editstatus | 17:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] | 17:39 |
| elfy | yea - can see that | 17:39 |
| brainwash_ | so the arrow is filtered in your browser? | 17:39 |
| elfy | filtered? | 17:39 |
| brainwash_ | well, triangle pointing east | 17:40 |
| brainwash_ | it's missing in your browser, or? | 17:40 |
| elfy | no triangle - I see for instance ibus>>Bugs>>blah | 17:40 |
| elfy | hover over the >> and nothing :) hover over ibus or Bugs and it's selectable | 17:41 |
| brainwash_ | =S | 17:41 |
| brainwash_ | no clue | 17:41 |
| elfy | http://imagebin.org/299153 http://imagebin.org/299154 | 17:42 |
| elfy | :) | 17:42 |
| brainwash_ | not there | 17:43 |
| brainwash_ | the yellow line | 17:43 |
| elfy | oooh | 17:43 |
| brainwash_ | :D | 17:43 |
| elfy | I see that now lol | 17:43 |
| brainwash_ | the little triangle | 17:43 |
| elfy | yep - ok got it :) | 17:43 |
| brainwash_ | but I already changed it some minutes ago :P | 17:44 |
| elfy | yea I saw that :) | 17:44 |
| elfy | added it to the agenda | 17:48 |
| elfy | brainwash_: what I'm unsure of is whether we had ibus and everything was fine and then we got it in notification area | 18:04 |
| elfy | all I know is I remember it going wrong when it showed up :) | 18:04 |
| knome | brainwash_, you at all familiar with ristretto? | 18:07 |
| knome | bug 1270894 sounds like just a redraw in the sidebar might be good | 18:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1270894 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "Sorting by date or name not working properly in thumbnail bar" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270894 | 18:09 |
| knome | the bug is nasty because when you scroll after changing the sort more (== advance to next image), the next image is shown correctly in the main area, but the sidebar has a wrong image highlighted | 18:10 |
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| ochosi | sergio-br2: hey! | 22:37 |
| sergio-br2 | hey! hello | 22:37 |
| ochosi | saw you're working on some stuff again :) | 22:38 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah | 22:38 |
| sergio-br2 | a little :) | 22:38 |
| ochosi | the file-roller icon is really not a prime concern of mine | 22:38 |
| ochosi | but i think it's just too much work if the icon is going to be more or less the same | 22:38 |
| ochosi | i talked to jimmac today about how they're maintaining the gnome-icon-theme | 22:38 |
| ochosi | it's a really interesting system | 22:39 |
| ochosi | they have all icons from one app in one file | 22:39 |
| ochosi | and then a script cuts them apart and puts them in the right place | 22:39 |
| ochosi | i think it'd be pretty neat, cause you always see the sizes next to each other | 22:39 |
| ochosi | only problem is migrating there | 22:39 |
| sergio-br2 | is it possible do this with svg? or it's other type of file? | 22:39 |
| ochosi | it's all svg | 22:39 |
| ochosi | but i have to look into it a bit more before i can tell whether we can do it | 22:40 |
| sergio-br2 | inside a tar or like that? | 22:40 |
| sergio-br2 | ah, ok | 22:40 |
| sergio-br2 | interesting | 22:40 |
| ochosi | it's one svg per icon-type | 22:40 |
| ochosi | e.g. one svg for all sizes of web-browser.svg | 22:40 |
| ochosi | and then the script chops them apart and puts them into the correct place as png | 22:42 |
| sergio-br2 | are they in github? | 22:43 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:44 |
| sergio-br2 | found it | 22:44 |
| ochosi | also need to clone it | 22:44 |
| ochosi | haven't had time yet | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | brainwash_, Unit193: is there an existing bug for xscreensaver still being installed in trusty? | 22:45 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: bug 1291019 | 22:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1291019 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "xflock4 still uses xscreensaver by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291019 | 22:47 |
| brainwash | 2 issues, 1 report | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | fair enough | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | suppose I can try to fix both at once | 22:48 |
| sergio-br2 | dowloaded it, very interesting ochosi | 22:48 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: yeah, i think it'd make maintenance a lot easier | 22:48 |
| ochosi | but we have to see whether we can get a hold of the migration script | 22:48 |
| ochosi | cause converting elementary-xfce to this format by hand would take ages... | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | time to make light-locker #1 :) | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Eh. :/ | 22:49 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:49 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: but calling light-locker-command also launches it, so I'm not sure if we should change the order | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | ^ | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | going to change it to light-locker-command, xscreensaver, gnome-screensaver | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | that should make it work more as expected, even with alternative environments | 22:51 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: See above, please. | 22:52 |
| brainwash | sergio-br2: I've uploaded a patched version of xfce4-settings to https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 22:52 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: what do you mean by that? | 22:53 |
| brainwash | sergio-br2: it "should" fix bug 1260341 | 22:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1260341 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Tapping lower-right corner of touchpad causes a right-click" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260341 | 22:53 |
| sergio-br2 | great | 22:53 |
| sergio-br2 | need help to test? | 22:54 |
| brainwash | sergio-br2: please test, you might need to toggle tap to click once, so the new settings take effect | 22:54 |
| sergio-br2 | ok | 22:54 |
| sergio-br2 | is it in repo? | 22:55 |
| brainwash | in my PPA | 22:55 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: I meant that if you run light-locker-command, it will start the light-locker process and use it to lock the screen | 22:56 |
| ochosi | does xscreensaver do the same? | 22:57 |
| bluesabre | ok... is that somehow a problem? | 22:57 |
| ochosi | (i personally think it's desirable that it starts the process btw) | 22:57 |
| brainwash | not sure, if it's a serious problem | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | xscreensaver-command -lock | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0 | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | So, xscreensaver first. | 22:59 |
| brainwash | xubuntu user A prefers xscreensaver and enabled the autostart launcher, but xflock4 will call light-locker | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Thanks for pointing this out, I was unaware ll did this. | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | so, clicking the "lock screen" button should do nothing if the daemon is, for some reason, not running? | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | I prefer gnome and light-locker's aggressive, "if somebody tells me to lock, I am going to do it" | 23:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, i mean if ppl really wanna stick to xscreensaver they should uninstall light-locker anyway | 23:02 |
| ochosi | it's either: break light-locker if xscreensaver is installed as well | 23:03 |
| ochosi | or: break xscreensaver if light-locker is installed as well | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Perhaps, but then xscreensaver should be tried first, or else you may easily get stuck with light-locker (which was disabled), and xscreensaver running, and double locking. | 23:03 |
| ochosi | depending on whatever you put first in xflock | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | Not precisely, if xscreensaver isn't running, it'll move on to light-locker. | 23:04 |
| brainwash | exactly | 23:04 |
| brainwash | the user can disable xscreensaver easily | 23:04 |
| brainwash | startup apps | 23:04 |
| ochosi | brainwash: the same is true for light-locker | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | Whereas lightlocker will just launch, later after unlocking and walking away, the computer now will lock twice. | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Clearly not. | 23:05 |
| ochosi | Unit193: there's a simple settings dialog for it, i don't know what else you'd want | 23:05 |
| ochosi | the same is true for xscreensaver | 23:05 |
| brainwash | light-locker-command -l launches light-locker | 23:05 |
| ochosi | in that sense they're on par | 23:05 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: But if I disable it there, it won't disable then. | 23:05 |
| ochosi | who would have both installed? mostly upgraders i'd say | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | killall light-locker;killall xscreensaver; light-locker-command -l && xscreensaver-command -l | 23:06 |
| sergio-br2 | brainwash, even without your ppa, it now works. I'll try after, without virtualbox | 23:08 |
| brainwash | sergio-br2: ok, I'll wait for your test results then | 23:09 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: hoho! It's not quite as terrible as it sounds, light-locker-command -l doesn't seem to launch light-locker, just lock. | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | "lock" | 23:11 |
| ochosi | oh great, so brainwash has been bullshitting us again ;) | 23:12 |
| knome | oops. | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | goes to vt8, with session unprotected if light-locker is not running | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: No, he's still right, but just not terrible. | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Right. | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | ugh | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | :D | 23:13 |
| brainwash | this whole screen locking discussion :D | 23:13 |
| Unit193 | Indeed. | 23:13 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: can you and cavalier try to detect if light-locker is running, and not kick to vt8 if it is not? | 23:13 |
| bluesabre | then return error exit(1) | 23:13 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre, brainwash, ochosi: Therefore, found a security bug before release, I'd call it a plus! | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:14 |
| * bluesabre will see if its easy to add | 23:15 | |
| brainwash | Unit193: security bug? the lubuntu guys don't agree | 23:15 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Err, not sure if that's right, the actual dev did switch back to xscreensaver. :P | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | (Saucy.) | 23:16 |
| brainwash | impressive | 23:17 |
| brainwash | Unit193: had to deal with xmir earlier today and it did not work properly with light-locker | 23:19 |
| sergio-br2 | ochosi, the git repo from gnome-icon has the png too, did you see? | 23:20 |
| Unit193 | Meh. One thing though, must have gotten better since it took you a bit to notice. Not that it matters in the least, but updated the xmir isos since .6 is out. :P | 23:20 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Did you see my chat with Mirv? | 23:20 |
| brainwash | about the conf file? | 23:20 |
| Unit193 | And it being reverted on upgrade, yeah. | 23:21 |
| brainwash | xmir does indeed work better now, but I've noticed some strange screen flickering too | 23:21 |
| brainwash | so I was like "go away xmir!" | 23:22 |
| Unit193 | Oooooh! Can you try something for me with that? :D | 23:23 |
| brainwash | you are looking for test results? | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:23 |
| Unit193 | http://sigma.unit193.net/configs/conkyrc_xmir | 23:24 |
| brainwash | you want me to test the shell command? | 23:25 |
| Unit193 | Well, more the conky output, should be quite clear. | 23:26 |
| brainwash | it will take some time until I can give you some feedback | 23:29 |
| brainwash | test system is currently being abused for "linux" gaming | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | Hah, nice. (Also, the idea is displaying red and text for no mir, green and text for xmir.) | 23:30 |
| brainwash | I like the idea | 23:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: will have to check how or gnome-screensaver handled this | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | gnome-screensaver launches itself | 23:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, but *how* ;) | 23:33 |
| ochosi | i didn't consciously bump that part out | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | good question | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | the lazy solution, use a singleton | 23:34 |
| bluesabre | thats probably how they do it :) | 23:34 |
| ochosi | a singleton? | 23:34 |
| bluesabre | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton_pattern | 23:35 |
| ochosi | oh meh, lotsa reading | 23:36 |
| * ochosi goes back to snacking | 23:36 | |
| Unit193 | Snack, food, good plan. | 23:37 |
| * Unit193 -> | 23:37 | |
| ochosi | :) | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | ugh, attempting to do this without boost looks like a beast | 23:40 |
| ochosi | i don't seem to understand what you're saying well tonight :) | 23:40 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | short version, I'd much rather do this in python | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:41 |
| ochosi | haha | 23:42 |
| brainwash | Unit193: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/xmir.php | 23:43 |
| brainwash | and red when it's not running | 23:43 |
| ochosi | so where do you have this label? | 23:44 |
| Unit193 | Just how it should be. :D | 23:44 |
| brainwash | ochosi: on the desktop | 23:46 |
| ochosi | is it that hard to tell initially whether XMir is running? | 23:51 |
| ochosi | (it lead to such disturbing behavior here last time i tried that i'm sure i'd notice) | 23:52 |
| brainwash | notice visually? | 23:57 |
| ochosi | two cursors, laaaaags, this sort of stuff | 23:57 |
| brainwash | not anymore | 23:57 |
| ochosi | also with nvidia propr drivers? | 23:58 |
| brainwash | but there is some screen flickering | 23:58 |
| brainwash | only KMS drivers are supported | 23:58 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, nouveau doesn't work well for me | 23:59 |
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