/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/14/#juju-gui.txt

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bacrick_h_: progress on setting up staging on prodstack13:01
rick_h_bac: yes, kind of13:01
rick_h_bac: we're #2 on the list and got a priority bump and should be coming up 'very soon'13:01
rick_h_bac: I'd expect to see something next week13:02
bacrick_h_: did you see liam's note13:02
rick_h_bac: no, link or reference?13:02
bacrick_h_: email fwded13:02
rick_h_bac: thanks, just realized my email sync went belly up. No wonder it was so quiet today :)13:03
rick_h_sync'ing down now13:03
rick_h_bac: ah cool, can you file a bug on that install issue, or at a maint card for us to update that?13:04
* rick_h_ is surprised we haven't hit that issue already13:04
bacdid13:05
rick_h_bac: ty13:05
bacrick_h_: dn13:05
* bac internationalizes responses13:06
jcastrohey rick_h_, how do I deploy a multiple bundle bundle13:13
jcastrojuju-quickstart: error: multiple bundles found (scalable, single) but no bundle name specified13:13
rick_h_jcastro: you don't13:13
rick_h_jcastro: you can only deploy one at a time13:14
jcastroyeah but what's the format?13:14
rick_h_it's why the gui breaks them up in the results13:14
rick_h_oh, sec13:14
rick_h_jcastro: -n NAME13:14
jcastrojuju-quickstart bundles.yaml/single isn't one13:14
rick_h_jcastro: so juju deploy -n single bundles.yaml13:14
jcastrogot it, thanks!13:14
* frankban lunches13:15
bachey benji, can i borrow your eyeballs for a sec?  here yaml.dump is behaving oddly and i can't see why.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7090137/13:29
* benji starts the eyeball meter running.13:29
bacspecifically lines 21-2313:29
benjibac: what do you perceve as an oddity on those lines?13:33
bacbenji: i would've thought at 21 options would have had tuning-level as an entry on a separate line with no braces13:34
bacat 22-23, items broken out rather than presented as a dict13:35
bacbenji: you know, yaml13:35
jcastrorick_h_, ok, a new problem13:35
rick_h_jcastro: awesome13:36
jcastrohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7090182/13:36
benjiyeah, it doesn't seem to be as low-symbol as possible13:36
jcastrothis bundle passes proof, it's the same one I made but combined13:36
jcastrobut when you deploy the "scalable" one, only haproxy, kibana, and the gui13:36
jcastroalso, on a related note, what's the workflow for people drag and dropping combined bundles into the GUI?13:37
rick_h_jcastro: right, they were getting an error about subordinates yesterday? Is that not part of this? Was there any error feedback in the gui?13:37
jcastroyeah trying it now13:37
rick_h_jcastro: there isn't right now. The idea would be to add a selector when you drop, but right now you can only drag/drop single bundle files13:37
jcastroman13:38
rick_h_jcastro: but it's not on the schedule at the moment13:38
jcastrowhy didn't anyone mention that before I combined the bundles?13:38
rick_h_(near term schedule)13:38
rick_h_because they're getting promulgated13:38
rick_h_and are available in the gui for deploy from the UI13:38
rick_h_or via quickstart13:38
rick_h_so there's no need to drag/drop them?13:38
benjibac: are you wanting a lower-symbol representation or are you worried that the resulting YAML may not be parsed correctly?13:39
jcastroso the gui will support the multi-bundle when they're in the store?13:39
rick_h_jcastro: it splits them out13:40
jcastrooh ok, awesome13:40
rick_h_jcastro: it's why you have rails:single rails:xxxx13:40
bacbenji: i don't think it will be parsed as yaml.  why are some dicts expanded and these two not?13:40
rick_h_jcastro: it's why you get the prettier names13:40
bacbenji: i don't know what you mean by lower-symbol13:40
benjiit will be parsed fine; remember YAML is a superset of JSON, so those mappings using curly braces are just fine13:41
benji>>> yaml.load(yaml.dump(data)) == data13:41
benjiTrue13:41
benji(where my data is the same as yours)13:41
bacbenji: ok, then, i'm bugged by the inconsistency.  :)13:43
benjiyeah, I'm not sure why it goes symbolic on those; if we really want it to look nice it looks like we can create our own serialization class that will pretty-print the output13:44
benjiyow! whatever you do, don't pass canonical=True13:45
jcastrorick_h_, ok same thing, no errors reported by the GUI though13:45
benjihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7090229/13:45
rick_h_jcastro: k, and to test it in the gui you removed the single and went only with scalable?13:45
rick_h_jcastro: hangout?13:46
jcastrosure, fire it up!13:46
rick_h_jcastro: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpjonbnmmh5a1hkd5fr81emg?hl=en13:46
benjibac: ooh, it looks like default_flow_style=False makes for pretty YAML13:46
bacbenji: yep, i just discovered that13:47
benjiI vote for canonical=True just to make it look all technical-like.13:47
baci mean if we can't use canonical=True who can?13:48
bacyaml.dump(data, mismash=False)13:49
bacs/mismash/mishmash/13:49
benjiheh13:50
bacbenji: i yield your eyeballs.  thanks.13:51
benji:)13:51
rick_h_"I yield my remaining eyeball time to the distinguished gentleman from NY"13:51
benjirick_h_: heh, I thought the same thing.13:52
* Makyo is back (gone 13:44:06)14:01
hatchthat timer is pretty cool :)14:03
MakyoHah, yeah14:03
frankbanguihelp: I need two reviews + QA for https://codereview.appspot.com/75830045 (quickstart). Anyone available? thanks!14:21
bacfrankban: in a bit14:21
frankbanrick_h_: could you please check if ^^^ meets Jorge needs?14:21
frankbanbac: thanks14:22
rick_h_frankban: looking14:22
frankbanrick_h_: thank you14:22
rick_h_frankban: can you verify that bundle:mediawiki/single14:23
rick_h_works as well?14:23
frankbanrick_h_: sure14:23
rick_h_frankban: and if so let's use that as the bundle: shortest url you can get example14:24
hatch__159 failing tests...14:24
frankbanrick_h_: that url is already used as example in the help14:25
rick_h_hatch__: stop doing that :P14:25
frankbanrick_h_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7090449/14:27
rick_h_frankban: woot thanks. Thought so but brain fried today14:28
jcastrorick_h_, should I file a bug on the num_units:0 thing?14:35
rick_h_jcastro: ^^ I'll get it. I think we'll need a couple on the right projects. I've got a card for us to look into it14:35
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rick_h_frankban: feedback inbound14:37
frankbanrick_h_: thanks14:38
hatchrick_h_ nice spreadsheet14:48
rick_h_hatch: heh, I still can't get that damn planning poker site to work right14:49
rick_h_so this will be the next best thing14:49
rick_h_everyone enter a number....NOW14:49
hatchthat's fine, that system was a little too 'hands off' anyways :)14:49
rick_h_and then agree on a final one14:49
rick_h_speaking of14:50
rick_h_jujugui overly long standup in 1014:50
rick_h_kanban and fetch your beverages now please 14:50
bacrick_h_: did you QA frankban's branch?14:51
rick_h_bac: no, just reviewed text as jcastro's proxy14:51
bacok, i'll do it later14:52
rick_h_bac: ty14:52
frankbanthanks bac 14:53
Makyojujugui call in 214:58
hatchI love it when tests fail but the code it's testing works15:00
rick_h_hatch: call time15:01
hatchwhaaaa15:01
bacbenji: cw review wygac https://codereview.appspot.com/7610004315:13
jcastrorick_h_, hey so since bundles don't have a way to feature them in manage, is there a way to manually toggle something to feature them?15:57
luca_jcastro: Is your bundle charm school thing later going to be recorded?16:00
rick_h_jcastro: gave you a url yesterday16:00
jcastroluca_, yes16:02
benjiBradCrittenden: I'm looking at your review now.16:03
BradCrittendenthanks16:03
benjinick change in 3...2...1...16:03
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jcastrorick_h_, I must have missed that URL16:04
hatchrick_h_ frankban when we have that juju-core work could we plan to pair on it so I can get more up to speed on how juju-core operates? 16:04
rick_h_jcastro: sorry was otp, sec16:05
rick_h_jcastro: http://manage.jujucharms.com/bundle/mediawiki/single/featured/edit16:06
rick_h_jcastro: we've got a bug to add the actual html link, sorry for the url hackery for the moment16:06
jcastrohackery is good enough for a friday!16:07
rick_h_:)16:07
rick_h_bac: frankban Makyo email on the way with shared docs for monday16:11
frankbanthanks16:11
frankbanhatch: you mean, adding fields to machine info?16:12
frankbanhatch: pairing sounds good16:12
MakyoThanks16:12
jcastrorick_h_, ok mediawiki was no problem16:12
jcastroany idea why this isn't working?16:12
jcastrohttp://manage.jujucharms.com/bundle/mongodb/cluster/featured/edit16:12
jcastroI get a 40416:12
jcastrorick_h_, oh nevermind, we just promoted them, so we need to wait for ingestion16:12
rick_h_jcastro: rgr16:12
jcastrorick_h_, how long is ingestion again? 1 hour?16:13
rick_h_15min16:13
rick_h_oh, it takes about another 15min16:13
rick_h_so normally don't bug me until 30min past :)16:13
jcastroheh16:13
hatchfrankban yeah - awesome thanks!16:16
frankbanmp16:17
* rick_h_ runs away to lunch outside of these basement walls16:18
luca_rick_h_: can you send me a debug log to look at?16:34
* rick_h_ is back from lunch fetching16:45
frankbanrick_h_: how does it look? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7091117/16:48
rick_h_frankban: <3 thanks!16:48
frankbancool16:48
hatchsweet down to 142 test failures17:15
* hatch grumbles 17:15
hatchlol17:15
hatchrick_h_ from installing Ubuntu on your air was there a specific tutorial you found most helpful?17:19
hatchI think I'm going to take a stab at it this weekend17:19
rick_h_hatch: not really, just use refindit or whatever and plug in the usb device and boot from it17:19
hatchcool ok17:20
hatchI even have me a nice jelly ubuntu sticker to go over the glowy apple logo :)17:22
rick_h_frankban: still around?17:34
frankbanrick_h_: yes17:34
rick_h_frankban: the two cards in project 1 those are unblocked now correct?17:34
rick_h_frankban: the mega-watcher related ones?17:34
frankbanrick_h_: well, they could be considered blocked by the juju-core one. not tecnically blocked, but in theory it could be better to wait for the server side to be implemented17:36
rick_h_frankban: ah, gotca ok17:36
rick_h_frankban: I know of all-watcher but not up on mega-watcher :)17:37
frankbanheh17:39
rick_h_jujugui I've updated the kanban with the cards for the next cycle. Some stuff is not scheduled. Take a peek and let me know if you disagree on anything left behind. 17:40
hatchWATCH ALL TEH THINGS!!!!!!17:40
rick_h_no no, really watch them hatch 17:40
hatchlooks good!17:42
rick_h_jujugui running away a bit early today. Will be in/out if anyone needs anything. 17:50
hatchenjoy your weekend!17:50
rick_h_bac: are you qa'ing frankban's branch and you've got a review on yours?17:50
jcastrorick_h_, rails:simple shows up in the search results17:50
jcastrobut not rails:scalable17:50
* rick_h_ should probably count those today17:50
bacrick_h_: i am doing the qa17:50
jcastronm, I'll file a bug17:51
rick_h_jcastro: looking17:51
jcastrohave a good weekend!17:51
bacrick_h_: yes, benji reviewed mine17:51
rick_h_bac ok cool17:51
bacrick_h_: meant to mention i've got no approval for travel yet.  mramm too busy chasing sloths17:52
rick_h_jcastro: yea, please do I guess. Nothing left in the queue and appears to not have gotten in17:52
rick_h_jcastro: maybe swap the order and see if that does anything different in the mean time?17:52
hatchbac try sending an email17:52
jcastroI am not going to touch the bundles until past monday :)17:52
rick_h_bac: ok, if you don't hear anything monday let me know. I'll see him in a meeting and can bug him17:52
rick_h_jcastro: heh ok17:52
hatchI have 3200 read emails in my inbox...I think I need to start making folders18:08
hatchthe scrolling is starting to lag lol18:09
bacfrankban: working through your QA.  all good so far.  a few more to go.18:13
frankbanbac: thank you!18:14
hatchjujugui I need two reviews/deep qa's for the final viewlet to view branch https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/18018:17
Makyohatch,  on it18:17
hatchthanks18:18
* hatch cracks knuckles....."glad to be done that"18:20
hatchhmm not so fast I guess18:26
hatchCI failure....this is an odd one18:26
rick_h_hatch: missing a file in checkin?18:27
rick_h_hatch: or something that would cause it to not have the file?18:27
hatchcheckin is good, checking prod now to see if I missed something in a make step18:27
hatchdevel passes no problem18:28
hatchmight be the modules dep issue again heh18:28
hatchahh yeah prod is failing18:28
rick_h_hatch: cool18:29
rick_h_well, cool that it's not CI but a real thingy18:29
hatchyup, now to just get prod to not crash on me so I can figure it out :)18:29
hatchphantom keeps crashing....it's running too fast!18:29
hatchhaha18:29
hatchoh boy now phantom won't even start18:30
hatchlol18:30
hatchfixed...I missed a dependency...oops18:35
hatchjujugui anyone else available to be another reviewer before EOD ?18:36
hatchhttps://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/18018:36
rick_h_hatch: looking18:36
hatchcool thanks18:36
rick_h_hatch: the lower casing is now that they're all moved you've renamed them?18:37
hatchrick_h_ well the classes are still upper cased but their keys are now lowercased 18:38
hatch(as they should be)18:38
rick_h_k18:38
hatchI mean, I could change that I suppose, but this I think follows closest to the conventions 18:38
rick_h_k, yea just odd at first to just start out lower casing things 18:39
rick_h_reviewer comments helpful :) but I guess I'll see something that auto upper cases the first letter somewhere in a bit18:39
bacbenji: thanks for the review.  i changed "orig_yaml" to "o_y" but then opted for "o"18:41
benjilol18:42
hatchoh boy hah18:42
bacyay, ACC tourney18:49
bacthanks espn app18:49
bachey benji have you seen any spurious failures of  charmworld/views/tests/test_metrics_api.py ?  it failed a few times via 'lbox propose' but worked in isolation.18:52
bacsuper annoying18:53
bacand it is a pretty dumb test.  not sure how it could be failing18:53
benjibac: I saw that yesterday; I should have filed a bug or at least mentioned it.  A card to look into it might be on order.18:54
bac404 not thrown?18:54
bacbenji: and was it the same, failing only on lbox propose?18:54
jcastroso I can see the hadoop cluster bundle in the ~charmers branches but I can't find them in the GUI itself, ideas?18:57
rick_h_http://manage.jujucharms.com/search?search_text=bundle&op= not ingested yet? 18:58
hatchrick_h_ I replied to all your messages, mind checking my responses plz19:01
rick_h_hatch: rgr19:01
rick_h_jcastro: just saw ingest fill up with fresh load of charms/bundles19:01
rick_h_will watch it go down and see if it apepars19:01
jcastroits in there and I can quickstart deploy it19:02
jcastroI just can't find it in jujucharms.com19:02
rick_h_bac: I wonder if that scoring is biting us?19:02
jcastroso I search for say "cluster" and mongodb/cluster shows up, but hadoop/cluster does not19:02
bacrick_h_: could be.  i'd think a direct search would show it19:02
rick_h_bac: if you get a sec can you check staging to see about http://staging.jujucharms.com/search?search_text=hadoop&op=19:02
rick_h_bac: they show up in staging but not production :/19:03
bacoh19:03
bactmks19:03
bacer, tmns19:03
rick_h_hatch: thanks for the udpates19:04
rick_h_jcastro: sorry, seems an issue on our end. Shows on staging but not manage. looking into it19:05
jcastrono worries, quickstart works so it's not so bad19:06
jcastroI was worried things were getting unpromoted19:06
rick_h_no, they're there. The joys of search. Eternally tweaking results to get enough results, not too many, sorted best, etc. At least that's my first impression. 19:06
jcastrohttp://manage.jujucharms.com/bundle/mongodb/cluster/featured/edit is 40319:07
jcastroam I doing it right? worked fine for mediawiki19:07
rick_h_jcastro: 403 means not authed19:08
jcastrota19:08
rick_h_make sure to go to the main page and logout/login19:08
jcastrogot it!19:08
jcastrorick_h_, after I feature unfeature I need to wait for next ingest I assume?19:11
rick_h_jcastro: no, shouldn't19:11
bacjcastro: when did you push up that cluster bundle?19:11
jcastrobac, earlier today19:11
rick_h_jcastro: I see two bundles in featured atm19:11
jcastroaround 11ish I wanna say19:12
rick_h_jcastro: make sure to remove the charms so the list isn't too long19:12
jcastroyeah I did that19:12
bacjcastro: https://manage.jujucharms.com/heartbeat shows no bundles queued up.  i'll wait to see what happens when all the charms get ingested but it looks like the bundles aren't getting queued up.19:12
rick_h_bac: I saw 20 queued up a little bit ago19:13
bachttp://staging.jujucharms.com/heartbeat  -- shows bundles queued up19:13
bacrick_h_: on mjc?19:13
rick_h_and they go through19:13
rick_h_bac: yes19:13
rick_h_bac: I watched mjc for two ingest cycles and saw them go through19:13
bacthat's weird.  i wonder if our cronjob is foobar-ed .  will ask webops to grab it19:14
rick_h_bac: rgr, thanks19:14
jcastrook I've set all the featured/unfeatured for everything in manage19:15
jcastrorick_h_, I betcha in 15 minutes they'll show up right19:15
rick_h_jcastro: :/ I was pretty sure that was instant19:15
hatchrick_h_ can we chat about the two 8's in Project A and split them up?19:18
bacrick_h_: https://manage.jujucharms.com/heartbeat -- it is ingesting bundles before charms.  that is different than i remember19:19
hatchI know you've EOD'd so that's ok if not :)19:19
bacrick_h_: also API3 Interesting fail19:19
bacjcastro: feature/unfeature is not related to ingest processing19:20
rick_h_hatch: sure link me19:20
rick_h_bac: yes, I noticed that as well19:20
hatchhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpj8qivva5nfi81adp78a4s4?hl=en19:20
bacrick_h_: note staging is working charms then bundles, as expected http://staging.jujucharms.com/heartbeat19:21
rick_h_bac: :/ 19:21
bacrick_h_: good news is the cronjob is correct after deploy.  so perhaps that issue is behind us.19:24
bacunfortunately not sure what is going on19:24
bacrick_h_, benji: we pass the ingest jobs (charm and bundle) to the worker as a dictionary and then loop over the values.  so order is not predictable.  so that could explain the difference we see right now between staging and prod19:38
rick_h_bac: ok, that's cool. jcastro you had other ones promoted today right? I mean the deploy was yesterday so the code's not changed today19:39
benjiif the insertion order is the same and the machines are the same architechture, then I would expect the order to be the same in the dictionaries19:40
bacthe API3 failure is odd since it hits https://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/search/interesting , which works19:40
bacthe message heartbeat gives indicates an exception (unlogged) was caught19:41
rick_h_I just got a 500 on that url19:41
hatchrick_h_ lol I cannot find that darn doc19:41
bachuh, me too now.  worked a minute ago19:42
rick_h_bac: apache cache?19:42
rick_h_hatch: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1j2Tyapbhd8Zf3wNeMgdOGBIRYRmKfpzSYe47lfm86lM/edit19:42
rick_h_bac: so we should have logs to get now that we're hitting 500s 19:42
hatchstarred19:43
hatchheh thanks19:43
bactrue19:43
rick_h_I have to drop the dog off for boarding for the weekend. biab19:43
hatch__rick_h_ where is the best place to download 14.04 from?20:16
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bacrick_h_, benji: i've got the logs and see the reason for the 'interesting' failure -- keyerror.  not sure why bundles aren't ingesting, though.20:42
rick_h_bac: k, do we have a cowboy for the keyerror?21:01
rick_h_bac: or can we unfeature/pull whatever is causing it?21:02
bacrick_h_: i'm still investigating.  the immediate code has not changed since 130 revs ago21:03
hatchthat's a lot of revs :)21:03
bacrick_h_: oh, it may be b/c we're just not featuring bundles!  i'll bet that is it21:03
bachave jorge turn those off for now21:03
bacs/not/now/21:03
rick_h_bac: yep, that's what I was thinking21:04
rick_h_k21:04
rick_h_jcastro: around? have a list of the bundles you've featured?21:04
bac'_source' does not appear as a key for bundles21:04
rick_h_bac: k, makes sense21:04
rick_h_bac: k, think I've unfeatured them all21:08
rick_h_bac: but wondering if we're hitting the request cache we did earlier21:09
bacno 50021:09
bac?21:09
rick_h_http://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/search/interesting is still 500'ing for me atm, but 21:09
rick_h_I've unfeatured them21:09
bacrick_h_: can't you do something with curl to set a no-cache header21:10
rick_h_bac: hmm, the settings don't save for me?21:10
rick_h_bac: can you login and hit http://manage.jujucharms.com/bundle/mediawiki/single/featured/edit and see if it's still checked?21:10
rick_h_I've unchecked it 3 times now21:10
rick_h_bac: ah ok, it unchecked in another browser21:11
hatch__Makyo hey need any help with the inspector branch?21:11
Makyohatch__, I think I got it, I just ran into conflicts with your last few.  having to go back and redo some stuff to match style, which is fine.21:12
hatch__ohh ok cool21:12
bacrick_h_: good.  wouldn't uncheck in safari21:12
MakyoShould get it in late today or Monday.  REalizing how little I've worked with the inspector stuff.21:12
hatch__yeah sorry so much diff21:12
hatch__:)21:12
hatch__much diff, very changing21:12
MakyoThat's A-OK.  it's a good direction to change in!21:13
hatch__now do I download the 14.04 beta 1 or the daily iso....this is the real question21:13
hatch__yeah I Agree this is the right way to do it21:13
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bacrick_h_: could you feature a bundle on staging and see if 'search/interesting' 500s?21:14
rick_h_bac: http://staging.jujucharms.com/api/3/search/interesting 21:15
rick_h_bac: must be the bundle that was done? It did work. I had two promoted bundles earlier in the day when jcastro was asking about what was taking his other bundle so long to show up21:16
rick_h_bac: http://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/search/interesting21:18
rick_h_bac: it's the hadoop bundle21:18
rick_h_bac: that one that fails to ingest on manage, but is on staging21:18
rick_h_bac: it was featured manually, but that caused the breakage21:18
bacrick_h_: you got an url for the bundle?21:19
bacanything obviously wrong?21:19
rick_h_bundle:~charmers/hadoop/7/cluster 21:19
rick_h_bac: not looked yet, re-featuring a couple of bundles to get the content fed21:19
bacrick_h_: i don't see anything obviously wrong with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/bundles/hadoop/bundle/view/head:/bundles.yaml21:22
rick_h_bac: yea, I mean it ingested, I think I ran it through proof when it didn't show up21:22
rick_h_at least on staging21:22
rick_h_so not sure atm21:23
bacrick_h_: it may have not gotten ingested properly on prod21:23
rick_h_bac: right21:23
hatchhey rick_h_ are you running the daily or beta version of Trusty?21:25
rick_h_hatch: I installed the daily iso21:25
hatchand it's been updating nicely?21:25
rick_h_yep21:25
hatchdo you know what the update from the daily to release will be like?21:25
hatchit 'should' be seamless no?21:25
rick_h_bac: damn, interesting is now a 4s request with bundles in it :(21:26
rick_h_hatch: yep21:26
rick_h_bac: but it's not broken now at least21:26
rick_h_bac: so we should file 3 cards. One about the hadoop bundle, maybe try to find a way to clear/reingest I don't know. 21:26
rick_h_one about the 4s load time on interesting21:27
rick_h_and one about, something I can't think of now. gah21:27
bacrick_h_: we should be smarter when creating interesting and reject bad entries not 50321:27
bacrick_h_: i'm working on that now.  not sure if that's what you meant by card 121:28
rick_h_bac: no more mean that the hadoop bundle ingests on staging but not production. Something is wrong there that needs a reset at the min. 21:28
bacrick_h_: i also have changes to make the ingest order definitive21:28
rick_h_bac: but that's fine, interesting is an api endpoint that cannot fail really. So all for making that more solid21:28
bacrick_h_: our bundle deleter would come in handy now21:29
rick_h_bac: :/ yea21:29
rick_h_bac: I guess we can push to try that first. Just avoid the known bad bundle for now21:29
rick_h_wheee launches21:29
bacrick_h_: so are we good for now?21:29
rick_h_damn feature's been there for 6mo and finding all the bugs in 4 days21:30
bacif so i need to take off21:30
rick_h_bac: yea, I think so. 21:30
rick_h_bac: thanks, let's regroup on monday and see what we can do. This will be important to get fixed asap with the announcement21:30
bacrick_h_: ok.  log files are chinstrap:~bac/files.tar21:30
rick_h_bac: rgr thanks21:30
bacif you're interested21:30
hatchoh boy I found a markdown compiler for sublime22:10
hatchthis is awsome22:10
lazyPowerhatch: have you looked at brackets? just out of curiosity22:11
hatchlazyPower long time ago - when I did, its JS support was really poor 22:11
lazyPowerI recently made the jump from sublime to brackets - its pretty awesome in terms of a free editor. And i'm impressed that its node powered22:11
lazyPower*and an adobe product at that22:12
hatchoh yeah? Do you do 'real' coding in it?22:12
hatchlike js, python, etc22:12
hatchvs html/css22:12
lazyPowerI'm about 4 days in, working through charms in it22:12
lazyPowerwrote a python file monitoring daemon in it earlier this week. 22:12
lazyPowerso, a few projects that are "real" vs "html/css"22:13
hatchoh cool I'll have to give it another go. I've been looking for a new editor because I really dislike the authors of sublime (the way they totally abandon the product and never interact with the community)22:13
lazyPowerand i did sadly have to use plugins to get the functionality i wanted22:13
hatchplugins are ok as long as there is a quality plugin ecosystem :)22:13
hatchI have a lot installed into sublime heh22:13
lazyPowerits 50/50 on teh ecosystem22:13
lazyPowerthe plugins are node.js based - and confusing as all get out to my non-node-using brain22:14
hatchnow with 'atom' out I am worried people will spend their time on that instead, which is unfortunate 22:14
lazyPowerbut i'm getting there with an auto-test plugin for charms.22:14
lazyPoweroh yeah, atom is going to be a win by default since github is sponsoring it22:14
lazyPowerthey fart on projects and the project blows up with nuclear power/man hours22:14
hatchlol truth!22:14
lazyPoweri think github is the oprah of DVCS hosting services22:15
hatchrofl22:15
lazyPower</opinion>22:15
hatchBEES BEES BEES22:15
* lazyPower prefers the locusts that come bundled in debian packages22:15
hatchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAhuSDRIDHE22:16
hatch:)22:17
lazyPowerhttp://i.imgur.com/9uanSrw.png22:17
lazyPower:P22:17
hatchlol22:17
hatchI haven't seen that one22:17
lazyPowerXKCD is my hero22:17
lazyPowernuff said22:17
lazyPowerso much that i paid the $30 for the server admin t-shirt. I'll bring it with to the vegas sprint22:18
hatchso as far as editors are concerned - I want to switch, but I want to stay productive so it's hard to switch to anything other than sublime and it's plugin ecosystem :)22:18
lazyPoweroh it droppedin price22:18
lazyPowerhttp://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/sysadmin22:18
lazyPowerhatch: understood. I still float between vim and whatever GUI editor of the month i'm rocking. But Brackets has struck a nice balance between usability and extensibility22:19
lazyPowerso thats my choice, and i blame marcoceppi for turning me on to it.22:19
lazyPowerthat guy, he's such a rabble rouser22:19
hatchhaha cool I have two cut out and taped to my wall... http://xkcd.com/327/ and http://xkcd.com/378/22:19
hatchhaha, I'll give brackets a go22:20
hatchnow you're the rabble rouser22:20
hatchboth of those comics hit home with me so they are a must have :D haha22:20
hatchoh brackets doesn't run in Ubuntu? that's kind of a requirement22:21
hatchhaha22:21
lazyPoweryep yep :D22:21
lazyPowerhatch: oh brackets runs in ubuntu! there's a x64 deb pack22:22
hatchoh cool I'll have to find it because it's not on their website22:22
lazyPower... it was listed as the big green button on the homepage when you visit brackets.io22:22
* lazyPower blinks22:22
hatchhmm odd22:22
hatchahah All Downloads22:23
hatchfound it22:23
lazyPowerhttp://i.imgur.com/S6bNWsq.png22:23
lazyPowerok so its not green.... i'm color blind22:23
hatchyeah mine says OSX 22:23
lazyPowerare you UA spoofing?22:23
hatchoh who knows anymore22:24
lazyPowerhaha22:24
lazyPowerlook at hatch, breaking the interweb all "unintentinal" like22:24
hatchnice website btw 22:24
hatchI ended up on it after reading on your blog22:24
hatchI like the timeline bit :)22:25
lazyPoweroh! thanks22:25
lazyPoweryeah, thats basicalliy my resume22:25
hatchwas that a template or did you roll your own?22:25
hatchyeah it's a smart idea22:25
lazyPowerlittle of both22:25
lazyPoweri ripped the timeline, the rest was bootstrap22:25
hatchI intend to be a lifer here so I hope I don't need to create a new resume :P22:25
lazyPoweragreed 22:26
lazyPowerdream job - achieved22:26
hatchI'm trying to decide how to write js api documentation22:28
hatchI like how Go does it MethodName(variable Type) Return22:28
lazyPoweri like how stripe does their docs22:29
hatchloooking22:29
lazyPowerhttps://stripe.com/docs/api22:30
hatchyeah that's too much work22:30
lazyPowerbut its so worth it in the end22:30
hatchthis is for a preliminary spec doc :)22:30
hatchthe GUI uses YUIDOC to generate api docs which is nice22:30
hatchbut that's a little overkill22:30
lazyPoweri'm still a fan of using rdoc style API docs, where you generate the docs out of special comments listed above the code method/properties/classes22:36
lazyPowerits got the 2 birds one stone approach where you write docs as you refactor the code22:36
lazyPowerbut i'm also one of those nutty ruby guys that loves pain22:37
hatchyup that's how all js docs work https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/app/widgets/inspector-widget.js22:37
hatchhttps://gist.github.com/hatched/9558493 this is how I'm attempting to do it in markdown22:39
hatchfor this doc22:39
lazyPowerdo you steam hatch?22:50
hatchthe act of sitting in a hot foggy room or the gaming platform? :)22:50
lazyPowerhatch: the gaming platform lol - not trying to get pervy here :323:12
hatchrofl23:12
hatchyeah but lately I've been playing a lot of Hearthstone on Bnet23:13
hatchwhat's your steamname?23:13
lazyPowershould be lazypower or coder_chuck23:14
lazyPoweri forget23:14
lazyPowersome punk has been stealing my handle all over the place23:15
hatchhow does he do that?23:15
lazyPowerhe apparently has the magic googles and registers on services before I discover them23:15
lazyPowerobviously while i'm off being a wifi hero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21OwTUEiGGM#t=23123:15
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