[00:44] <AussieDownUnder> Hmmm, so I noticed "sudo apt-get update" works differently now in my xubuntu 14.04
[00:45] <AussieDownUnder> Did it not just used to update the mirror lists? Now it seems to actually update other things.
[00:57] <Beldar> AussieDownUnder, other things like? apt just calls the repos in the sources.list or sources.list.d
[00:58] <AussieDownUnder> The last few days it's been installing updates as well
[00:58] <AussieDownUnder> Usually I use dist-upgrade to do that
[00:58] <Beldar> dist-upgrade is for a small upgrade set of packages is all
[00:59] <AussieDownUnder> I guess I am a noob & it could of been installing all that stuff all along but it's definitely changed in the last few days as to what displays on the screen when I've run that command
[01:02] <AussieDownUnder> Beldar, I just thought it updated the source list, now it actually upgrade software & other stuff.
[01:02] <AussieDownUnder> upgrades*
[01:08] <Beldar> AussieDownUnder, I have not used xubuntu in awhile, not sure of any changes really. Does not seem like a logical change however.
[01:09] <AussieDownUnder> Beldar, well I'm on the 14.04 beta, its getting new crazy updates nearly every day
[01:09] <Beldar> I get about a 100 or more a day, part of the development cycle
[01:11] <Beldar> I have misread your issue, I thought you were saying the update command upgrades as well i one command, rather than a complaint if so many updates.
[01:11] <Beldar> s/if/of
[01:21] <AussieDownUnder> Beldar, it does though, I type sudo apt-get upgrade & it actually upgrades packages and software
[01:22] <AussieDownUnder> Beldar, oh my god I'm retarded. I've been dislexically typing upgrade instead of update, sorry for wasting your time Beldar.
[01:23] <AussieDownUnder> dyslexically*
[01:36] <Beldar> AussieDownUnder, Heh, no biggie. ;)
[01:47] <AussieDownUnder> Can't workout why I can't hear sound in tuxguitar, I'm thinking something is wrong with my midi in xubuntu, there's nothing I can really change in tux to fix it that I know of so far.
[02:17] <Laibsch1> How can I deal with bug 1291262 to continue with the upgrade?
[02:23] <Stanley00> Laibsch: how about disable/pure that ppa mirror before run do-release-upgrade?
[02:28] <tomreyn> Laibsch1: <Stanley00> Laibsch: how about disable/pure that ppa mirror before run do-release-upgrade?
[02:29]  * tomreyn fixing peoples' communication since 1989
[06:26] <nbros652> anyone here... I'm running 14.04 with all of the updates... "gnome-screensaver-command -l" seems to work. However, "gnome-screensaver-command -q" says it's not running after -l. "gnome-screensaver-command -d" doesn't work at all for me. Anyone else experiencing this?
[07:25] <Nothing_Much> How do I report a bug again?
[07:39] <onlty> There's Nothing_Much to do, but multiple bugs usually results in duplicate bugs
[07:41] <tzafrir> I tried upgrading a test system from 12.4 to 14.4 . I fail to login from the display manager (text mode login works)
[07:42] <tzafrir> in .xsession-errors of the user I see that gnome-session is missing
[07:42] <tzafrir> update-alternatives --display x-session-manager shows only gnome-session,
[07:43] <tzafrir> and I couldn't find any way in the login screen to set the required session
[07:43] <tzafrir> What should I try next?
[07:49] <Nothing_Much> onlty: Well the global menu's won't stick to the top panel
[07:49] <tzafrir> sorry, my mistake. The upgrade process did not actually complete
[08:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:42] <arrith> DJones: sure, anything you have to say pro/con
[08:42] <arrith> i'm debating whether or not to go 13.10 and 14.04
[08:43] <arrith> people are always saying "oh if you can't handle stuff breaking you shouldn't do prerelease stuff"
[08:43] <arrith> i heard about an issue with tab completion in bash in 14.04
[08:43] <DJones> arrith: As I say, I've only had two issues, one is the login screen, sometimes it can be a bit of pain getting the keyboard going, occasionally have to use the onscreen keyboard or have a couple of goes
[08:44] <DJones> Only other issue is that hotot for twitter seems a bit unstable
[08:44] <ikonia> wasn't that an Xorg bug that is supposed to be fixed now ?
[08:44] <DJones> ikonia: I'm not sure, I may have updates from the last 48 hours to install, but I still had a bit of an issue with it last night
[08:45] <ikonia> I'd read some bugs on that that xorg was slow initialising some input devices
[08:45] <DJones> arrith: Can't say about tab completion, I've not needed to use it yet
[08:45] <DJones> ikonia: That could be it, it does seem to clear after a short time
[08:46] <arrith> DJones: mind opening a terminal and trying?
[08:46] <arrith> just like "ls Dow<tab>"
[08:47] <DJones> arrith: Sorry, I'm at work now, if you're still online in about 10 hours I'll be able to check when I get home, or somebody else should be able to check for you
[08:47] <dkessel> arrith: the issue is known. it is bug 1288031. you're welcome to mark yourself as affected in there ;)
[08:49] <arrith> DJones: ah that's okay
[08:49] <arrith> dkessel: thanks
[08:52] <samsul> !gimp
[08:53] <samsul> ubottu; who are you?
[08:54] <samsul> ubottu; what is your name?
[08:55] <samsul> ubottu; pascal
[10:46] <Nothing_Much> So...
[10:46] <Nothing_Much> How do I report a bug that relates to the Global menu's showing up in the title bar instead of the panel?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:19] <hyde> Hmm, Qt5 is still 5.0.2. Anybody here who might know what's up with that? I found one bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278329) which is related, but that has not been updated since end of Feb.
[13:41] <yofel> hyde: 5.2 is in trusty-proposed currently
[13:42] <hyde> yofel: ok, cool. so when it will be in the normal repos?
[13:42] <yofel> "soon"
[13:42] <hyde> ah :-)
[13:43] <hyde> well, before end of April  I hope ;)
[13:44] <Meerkat> does that apply to qtcreator 3.0 as well? it was uploaded to trusty-proposed today. Lubuntu won't let me activate that repo, though. :(
[13:56] <Nothing_Much> So how do I report a bug that doesn't involve a crash?
[13:57] <Meerkat> Nothing_Much, manually, at bugs.ubuntu.com
[14:50] <SuperLag> fucking awesome... this morning's update hosed my working system, and uninstalled Unity
[14:51] <SuperLag> and trying to go back and install what was removed has a bunch of references to unresolvable QT dependencies
[14:53] <Meerkat> SuperLag, do you have the trusty-proposed repo active? There were some QT and qtcreator updates today on there.
[14:55] <SuperLag> Meerkat: I don
[14:56] <SuperLag> Meerkat: sorry. I don't think so.
[14:57] <SuperLag> Meerkat: How do I add that repo to sources.list?
[14:57] <SuperLag> or is that not the right thing to do, in this case?
[14:58] <Meerkat> if you don't use trusty-proposed then that is not the issue
[14:59] <SuperLag> UGH.
[14:59] <SuperLag> I should have known better.
[15:00] <SuperLag> I'm trying to avoid a reinstall, and wondering if there's a way to fix whatever is broken without a reinstall.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, if you have any ppas that could have damaged your install you can revert with the ppa-purge app
[15:19] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: once the PPAs are purged, do I just try and reinstall what was removed? or is there some better way to get the system back into a working state?
[15:20] <SuperLag> and when you've only got CLI access... what's the best way to get a list of the PPAs installed?
[15:24] <TJ-> SuperLag: "grep ppa /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[15:25] <TJ-> SuperLag: also, check the apt logs to see what went wrong/what was upgraded: "/var/log/apt/history.log" and others in that directory
[15:28] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, the ppa-purge command removes any packages that were installed thru that ppa
[15:29] <SuperLag> yeah, but it's not clear what you're supposed to specify as the arg to ppa-purge
[15:29] <SuperLag> what I'm trying isn't working
[15:30] <SuperLag> for example... I have tuxpoldo-btsync-saucy
[15:31] <SuperLag> and I try "ppa-purge tuxpoldo-btsync-saucy" and it says that it can't find the package list for that PPA
[15:31] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[15:40] <SuperLag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7090808/
[15:42] <SuperLag> ah, got it... just tuxpoldo/btsync
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:45] <SuperLag> yeah, from looking at the history log, I don't see what went wrong... just what it upgraded and what it removed
[15:53] <SuperLag> :/
[15:53] <SuperLag> I
[15:54] <SuperLag> I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and unity, in hopes that all the launcher and menubar stuff would come back, but I'm stuck with a desktop that has a few icons.
[15:55] <SuperLag> When I do Ctrl-Alt-t for Terminal, I get the terminal window, with no window controls or scrollbar
[15:55] <SuperLag> actually... *any* window I open has no window controls
[15:56] <SuperLag> my only option is to do CTRL-Q to close them
[18:31] <dog-food> firrefox wouldn't open some web pages but they work now after I restarted
[19:42] <MooDoo> evening all
[20:18] <danialbehzadi> No one has problems with unity?
[20:18] <MooDoo> danialbehzadi: i do :D
[20:19] <danialbehzadi> From last night upgrade it doesn't work at all. I wanted to see if this is general issue or something is wrong with me
[20:19] <basketball> danialbehzadi,  file a bug and install gnome
[20:19] <MooDoo> danialbehzadi: boots into a desktop screen only no unity and yu can only ctrl alt t to get a terminal?
[20:20] <danialbehzadi> yes, I have workspaces and can work with terminal, but no launcher, panel, or window decoration
[20:20] <MooDoo> danialbehzadi: SNAP!
[20:22] <MooDoo> danialbehzadi: out of interest look at - http://pastebin.com/67y3e1sd
[20:22] <MooDoo> do you get that in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[20:25] <danialbehzadi> MooDoo: Yes
[20:25] <MooDoo> danialbehzadi: seems there is a few who is getting it
[20:30] <sdfsdfsf> hi guys apt-get dist-upgrade would like to unistall unity
[20:30] <sdfsdfsf> is it right
[20:31] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsf: Are you trying to upgrade from 13.10?
[20:31] <sdfsdfsf> no
[20:31] <sdfsdfsf> I did install beta some time ago
[20:31] <danialbehzadi> sdfsdfsf: That doesn't seem noraml
[20:32] <danialbehzadi> *normal ^
[20:32] <sdfsdfsf> can unity ppa can be the reason
[20:33] <sdfsdfsf> I did add one with minimalization on click
[20:33] <danialbehzadi> sdfsdfsf: which ppa did you add?
[20:33] <sdfsdfsf> ppa unity-minimize-on-click
[20:33] <danialbehzadi> sdfsdfsf: May be that's the reason. What does it want to install then?
[20:35] <sdfsdfsf> need to restart laptop becous system upgrade just stop working with cpu 100%
[20:35] <sdfsdfsf> be right back
[20:41] <mar_dan> back
[20:41] <mar_dan> now that is to install
[20:41] <mar_dan>  appmenu-qt5 hud libaccounts-qt5-1 libgsettings-qt1 libhud2 libnux-4.0-0
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libnux-4.0-common libqt53d5 libqt5dbus5 libqt5feedback5 libqt5gui5
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libqt5location5 libqt5multimedia5 libqt5network5 libqt5opengl5
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libqt5organizer5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5 libqt5sensors5
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libqt5sql5 libqt5sql5-sqlite libqt5svg5 libqt5test5 libqt5webkit5
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libqt5webkit5-qmlwebkitplugin libqt5widgets5 libqt5xml5 libsignon-extension1
[20:41] <mar_dan>   libsignon-plugins-common1 libsignon-qt5-1 libunity-action-qt1 libunityvoice1
[20:41] <mar_dan>   qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin qtdeclarative5-localstorage-plugin
[20:41] <mar_dan>   qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin qtdeclarative5-qtquick2-plugin
[20:41] <mar_dan>   qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin
[20:41] <mar_dan>   qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin qtdeclarative5-unity-action-plugin
[20:41] <mar_dan>   qtdeclarative5-window-plugin signon-keyring-extension signon-plugin-oauth2
[20:41] <mar_dan>   signon-plugin-password signon-ui signond ubuntu-wallpapers
[20:42] <mar_dan>   unity-voice-service unity-webapps-qml webapp-container webbrowser-app
[20:42] <mar_dan> with dist-upgrade it ask me to remove
[20:42] <mar_dan>  libqt5core5 ubuntu-desktop unity unity-tweak-tool
[20:42] <mar_dan> and install new
[20:42] <jtaylor> !paste | mar_dan
[20:42] <mar_dan> libqt5core5a libqt5positioning5 libxcb-xkb1 ubuntu-wallpapers-trusty
[20:42] <jtaylor> you should probably not do the upgrade if it wants to remove unity
[20:43] <mar_dan> oh sorry I am so noob as it come to irc
[20:44] <mar_dan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7092262/
[20:48] <basketballllll> When i plug in speakers the computing mutes and unmutes over and over causing there to be a popping spund
[20:49] <basketballllll> I am going out how hot is it near me cokie
[20:56] <mar_dan> ok so ppa was the problem
[20:56] <mar_dan> i did ppa-purge and now upgrade is just fine
[20:56] <mar_dan> thx for help
[21:44] <basketball> when i plug in speakers it make my computer mute and unmute nonstop causing a poping sound
[22:52] <edude03> Hello everyone, didn't realize there was a development channel haha
[22:52] <edude03> Anyway I'm experiencing a kernel panic on 14.04 on a T440s when I try and boot the installer from USB, sorry for the picture but it looks like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/gu6a0xb9el8q2ke/2014-03-12%2016.45.40.jpg
[22:57] <reb> Will Ubuntu 14.04 install on ARM Chromebooks with full disk encryption?
[23:12] <edude03> reb it doesn't already?
[23:12] <edude03> 13.10 I mean
[23:31] <reb> Don't know ... maybe it works with 13.10 ...