[05:26] <sgo11> darkxst, hi, sorry to interrupt you. do you have time to debug bug #1288572 ? I just read your reply. thanks.
[05:40] <darkxst> hi sgo11
[05:41] <sgo11> hi darkxst, right now, I purged all nvidia-* packages. that means I am using intel graphic card now. which nvidia driver do you want me to install? I found nvida-304 310 319 331. I tried 304 and 331 before. I just want to use nvidia card. I don't really care of my intel card. thanks a lot.
[05:42] <darkxst> probably just the latest one (so 331)
[05:43] <darkxst> probably just the latest one (so 331)
[05:43] <sgo11> darkxst, ok. 331 will install nvidia-prime automatically. all the version before 331 will not install nvidia-prime.
[05:43] <darkxst> sgo11, yes, thats because nvidia-prime is pretty new
[05:44] <sgo11> darkxst, ok. I will install 331. and switch to lightdm + lxde. and then try "`GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1 gnome-shell --replace`".
[05:44] <darkxst> yeh
[05:44] <sgo11> thanks. installing.
[05:55] <sgo11_> darkxst, hi, I am in another PC now. I tried that. gnome-shell failed to launch. and this time it seems apport picks up an error. there is a pop up window which I can click "continue". what should I do now?
[05:56] <darkxst> make sure you have apport-retrace installed
[05:56] <darkxst> then you can click "examine locally"
[05:56] <darkxst> then the first option "gdb"
[05:57] <darkxst> once it drops you into gdb
[05:57] <darkxst> set logging file <logname>
[05:57] <sgo11_> darkxst, I don't have apport-retrace. if I install it now, is that too late?
[05:57] <darkxst> set loggine on
[05:57] <darkxst> set logging on
[05:57] <darkxst> bt
[05:58] <darkxst> sgo11_, cancel the popup install it, then run ubuntu-bug /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-shell*****
[05:58] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Is there anything you want me to be working on? (other than learning a programming language)
[05:59] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you do simple patches?
[05:59] <sgo11_> darkxst, ok. I think I'd better bring my window manager back. not sure how to do that. pcmanfm is running. openbox is running. hm...
[05:59] <Noskcaj> As in making them? only if python
[05:59] <darkxst> Noskcaj, just pulling from git
[05:59] <Noskcaj> sure
[06:00] <Noskcaj> also, can you give me a testimonial at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#MOTU ?
[06:00] <darkxst> Noskcaj, this https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/patch/?id=3a8beaaf380a483ce33363031d8d276c371d7af1
[06:00] <darkxst> needs to go into g-s-d and u-s-d
[06:01] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:02] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I will add something, but can't really endorse you for upload rights that I don't have!
[06:03] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Just saying my work is good is more than enough. I could even attach a gnome packageset if you think it's worthwhile
[06:07] <sgo11_> darkxst, hi, I am not sure if this is expected. once I click "examine locally" and then choose first option "gdb". a new terminal pops up. That terminal is just black. the scrollbar becomes smaller and smaller. but everything is just black. when I check with htop, openbox --config-file is using 100% of my cpu core. that's all.
[06:09] <sgo11_> something might be wrong. anyway. I reboot the machine and try again.
[06:09] <darkxst> sgo11_, no not expected
[06:10] <darkxst> you should see lots of text scrolling paste will it grabs packages
[06:10] <darkxst> just upload the .crash file
[06:10] <sgo11_> darkxst, ok. will do that.
[06:11] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ubuntugnome packageset is a bit retarded right now
[06:11] <darkxst> probably better to go for desktop-extras
[06:14] <sgo11_> darkxst, uploaded to launchpad.
[06:15] <darkxst> ricotz, hi, sorry I missed you the other night
[06:16] <darkxst> sgo11_, processing now...
[06:16] <sgo11_> darkxst, thanks.
[06:20] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, just wanted to say i have pushed some updates to staging recently and i am hoping you are running those
[06:22] <darkxst> ricotz, only in a test VM right now, I've been a bit busy the last couple of weeks and 3.12 is a little unstable ;(
[06:23] <Noskcaj> darkxst, When do you expect the no patch uploads for g-c-c and g-s-d?
[06:24] <ricotz> darkxst, ah don't worry -- hmm, runs like a charm here, what is unstable in specific?
[06:24] <darkxst> ricotz, there are GC re-entrancy problems
[06:25] <darkxst> gcampax is working on it, but I suspect it won't land until after release, fairly major refactoring of gjs involved
[06:26] <ricotz> ok, i see
[06:26] <darkxst> probably they have just worked around specific cases?
[06:27] <darkxst> Noskcaj, still trying to get my FFe approved
[06:27] <Noskcaj> I really hope that finally works out
[06:28] <darkxst> if not, I will upload vanilla g-c-c 3.8
[06:28] <darkxst> and hopefully drop all the cruft from g-s-d 3.8
[06:30] <Noskcaj> And i'm guessing the results of the FFe will change if we want the 3.10 versions of gnome-docs
[06:31] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I don't see how that would be affected?
[06:31] <darkxst> sgo11_, forwarded a trace upstream
[06:31] <Noskcaj> We should try to have the docs in line with the related software
[06:32] <darkxst> Does anyone even use the docs?
[06:32] <sgo11_> darkxst, sorry, I am a newbie. what does that mean?
[06:32] <darkxst> sgo11_, awaiting gnome devs to look at it
[06:32] <Noskcaj> darkxst, not you or i, but i'm sure people do
[06:33] <sgo11_> darkxst, ok. got it. I will wait for any responses. thanks.
[06:33] <darkxst> Noskcaj, they are kind of useless on Ubuntu where you have an entirely mis-matched stack
[06:33] <darkxst> personally I alway use the online docs
[06:33] <Noskcaj> understandable
[06:36] <Noskcaj> micmute fix is up
[13:29] <not_found> lucky guess on the channel name :D
[13:31] <not_found> installed 14.04 yesterday and so far a (mostly) flawless experience... well done thus far
[13:32] <halligan> !bug 1292099
[13:33] <halligan> :(
[13:34] <not_found> afaik this doesn't effect only ubuntu gnome
[13:35] <halligan> yeah, just ran through the text
[13:48] <darklight_> For how long will 14.04 be supported ?
[13:51] <not_found> ubuntu gnome is aiming to become LTS and in that case 5 years afaik
[13:51] <not_found> if they don't get LTS status I am not sure...
[14:00] <darklight_> because some site was reporting as it seeking approval for a "semi lts status" with the distro supported only till  the next lts release
[14:01] <not_found> well if that is true then it will be supported for two years...
[14:02] <not_found> but it doesn't really say if you read this - http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-proposal/
[14:10] <darklight_> on a more technical note, what's the compile flag that has been used to disable csd in gnome 3.10 ?
[22:13] <Multbrelch> Hello. Can I ask Wnck specific questions here?
[22:13] <Multbrelch> under python ...