[00:04] However, in the adb shell, I was able to use iwconfig on wlan0 to make it aware of that network, so now the GUI network manager is aware of it, and I appear to have successfully connected. Thanks! [00:06] good evening everyone [00:07] Anyone here have tested the ubuntu-touch on their galaxy S3 ? I would really like to follow the procedure but I wanna make sure it will work somewhat :P [00:17] is there a web directory of click apps somewhere? === iBelieve_ is now known as iBelieve [00:19] mdeslaur, there is one in progress [00:19] pmcgowan: ah, cool, thanks. === Kyle- is now known as Eliz [01:05] And now I'm having another problem. I can't seem to make Ubuntu SDK aware of my device. It is a 2013 Nexus 7 (with Ubuntu Touch installed), but when I run adb devices -l, it lists it as a Nexus 4. Perhaps for this reason, Qt Creator insists that there is no device connected. [01:09] Mark_K, adb devices -l shows my manta as a mako so not sure [01:10] pmcgowan: Possibly unrelated, then. I'll keep looking. [01:10] Mark_K, definitely not right though [01:11] the flash tools detects it properly [01:12] hello. I am old user of ubuntu. But it is first time setting up ubuntu for touchscreen. I have a NUC setup with a dell touchscreen [01:13] it works fine with single touch. But it does not function like a touchpad. Where can I get some help? I hope here. [01:14] Mark_K, qtc is detecting my device [01:15] sirv, probably more on #ubuntu-devel but those devs may be offline now [01:16] sirv, the touch support on trusty is a focus === stgraber_ is now known as stgraber [01:17] pmcgowan: A possible complicating factor is that my device is connected over wifi but my desktop uses a wired connection. I was only able to access the device over ssh by using adb port forwarding, as described in the release notes. [01:17] Mark_K, oh, you cannot connect via usb? [01:18] pmcgowan, thank you for the quick reply. I will contact them to see what they say. Is trusty stable yet? :) [01:18] pmcgowan: I can connect via USB via adb shell, or via ssh using adb port forwarding as described on the release notes page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Accessing_the_device_over_SSH [01:18] sirv, what kind of touchpad function are you expecting? [01:19] sirv, touch is a work in progress, we try to keep the promoted images stable always [01:19] Mark_K, qtc will work over the usb connection [01:21] pmcgowan: That's what I was hoping to accomplish, so I just need to find out why it isn't working in my case. Your assurance that what I want is possible is helpful, so thank you. [01:21] bregma, for now I just need the keyboard to pop up when I am in a text field. I would like to use multi-touch/gestures in the near / medium future [01:22] pmcgowan, I will give trusty a try. Will it detect that I have a touchscreen and install accordingly? If not, where can I get some help with touchscreen setup? [01:23] sirv, that is the goal, ubuntu-devel unless bregma has another suggestion [01:24] trusty desktop is quite stable, using it here [01:24] sirv, it's very likely the touchscreen will be detected automatically and you do not need to do anything [01:26] pmcgowan , thank you. I will give trusty a try and see how touchscreen works. [01:27] bregma, thank you. I assume you mean on trusty. on 13.10 it did not for me. [01:28] sirv if you have trouble under Trusty, ping me in #ubuntu-devel [01:32] bregma, will do. Thank you both for helping me out. [01:37] I'm listening to some of the vUDS sessions and it sounds like Qt5.2 is supposed to land today... when do we expect this to land on the proposed images? [01:38] I want to know if I should get the music-app's Qt5.2 bug fixed in the click store/images soon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1291398 [01:38] Ubuntu bug 1291398 in Ubuntu Music App "test_add_song_to_queue_from_albums_sheet fails with Qt 5.2" [Critical,In progress] [01:38] vthompson, its in process now [01:39] pmcgowan, OK, that is sooner than I had assumed. I thought we'd wait for Qt5.2 tagged bugs to be resolved. [01:39] vthompson, but I believe the tests are no longer failing? [01:40] per leo [01:40] pmcgowan, his comment was that with the MP the test no longer fails [01:41] I see [01:42] I'll approve the merge and get it pushed to the store. Those who run proposed will just have to update via the store, I suppose. The bug is larger than just the single test--a number of things in the app break [01:43] vthompson, ok, a number of things have been fixed so we may need to retest the app [01:44] vthompson, check with popey I'd say [01:44] pmcgowan, fixed in Qt5.2? [01:44] yes or elsewhere, not sure what issues you saw [01:45] something cause a change in how a variable was converted to a string... probably not something that would be fixed. I'll apt-get update and verify [01:45] vthompson, if there are other bugs we should log/tag then and we can resolve next couple of days [01:47] vthompson, are you using u1db ? we just fixed an issue there [01:48] pmcgowan, not yet, no. It was with a LocalStorage query that returned a null value. [01:48] ok === Arch is now known as Archibald === Archibald is now known as Archonax098 [02:10] Can anyone direct me to the appropriate img/zip files for a 2013 Nexus 7 WiFi? [02:12] I have not been able to locate a clearly defined set of files that are compatible with my tablet, and all other avenues of installation have failed me. [02:14] Archonax098: Do you mean these? https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images [02:15] No; my apologies, I was referring to the image files to flash an installation of Ubuntu Touch. [02:16] The only touch files I have found are for the 'grouper' build, which is the 1st gen nexus 7 (2012) with WiFi. I tried to install it anyway because I'm stubborn and my phone (rightly) refused. [02:16] Archonax098: The installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install point to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [02:17] That's what I was referring to for the 'grouper' build. [02:20] My apologies; I just found two separate instances of test builds for my device in particular. One is from a youtube video, the other is from a forum post at : < http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628398 >. I will attempt these and reply with the results. === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:02] Yep, it appears to be working fine through an installation of MultiRom. It's downloading Ubuntu Touch atm and will automatically install when finished. Thanks for the help. ( : === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk [04:45] balloons, you around? [04:46] how to input apn for ubuntu touch [04:46] how to input apn for ubuntu touch? [04:50] how to input apn for ubuntu touch? [04:50] i am using nexus 4 [04:51] What do you mean by "apn"? [05:09] installed ubuntu touch (p4wifi) on a galaxy tab 10.1 (7500) without error. Still boots into cyanogenmod? [05:20] hi, i am trying to install ubuntu on an Asus Nexus 7. The device identifies itself as grouper, but it has no 3G. I keep ending up with an error Can't open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command. autodeploy.zip not found. I followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [05:20] did anyone experience anything similar? [05:21] ubuntu 13.10, x64, running in virtual box [05:43] zupp?? [06:01] zupp?? [07:01] zupp?? === vying is now known as Guest3516 [07:47] good morning [08:04] dholbach: good morning! [08:04] hi nhaines [08:04] I watched you an hour ago wrapping up the UDS summary. [08:06] ah nice :) [08:07] That entire session was very informative. Leann amazed me by her rapidfire presentation. :) [08:08] yeah, it was nuts :-) [08:08] "a light schedule" :-) [08:27] ogra_, do you know if http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/ is supposed to be working? [08:30] dholbach: use http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/ it works :) [08:31] timppa, yeah - looks like it work, still it'd be nice to have a bit more detail ;-) [08:32] dholbach: yes, it would be nice [09:13] Hi. I would like to install ubuntu touch on my Nexus device. Are there any messaging apps available? Is it possible to access Google Hangouts for example. [09:13] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ask A Question Day! :-D [09:15] davmor2: just had the double screensaver unlock thing [09:17] popey, me too! [09:17] ooh, wrong channel for that probably, sorry. [09:17] davmor2: do you have a bug for it? [09:20] * JamesTait watches with interest, having found nothing yesterday and not having the time to file a meaningful report at the time. [09:21] Kajover: you can use Facebook and Twitter through the Friends app, but no Hangouts. [09:21] One other question.. Are the radio (roms) going to get updated automatically with ubuntu touch updates? [09:22] Kajover, no [09:22] Kajover, but the radio stack in ubuntu is now compatible with both, the 4.2 and 4.4 firmware, so this is not an issue [09:23] Facebook would be good. What about whatsapp or anything else? Jabber? [09:23] So how would one update the radio firmware in the future? And what would I have to update manually as well? [09:23] whatsapp doesnt allow opensource ports ... so we have to wait until they consider it [09:24] Kajover: Whatsapp wants $200,000 to support Ubuntu, and shuts down any third-party apps. [09:24] Kajover: radio firmware is an OEM problem. They'll handle it for you. [09:24] nhaines, where did you get that number ? [09:24] ogra_: I've heard it a couple of times, and the last time at SCALE, Jono told me. [09:24] i heard quite different values :) [09:24] An OEM problem... But I still have to install it somehow? [09:24] ogra_: trust your sources then. :) [09:25] Kajover: no, an OEM problem and they deal with it. [09:25] That's what I meant by "they'll handle it for you. [09:25] ogra_: when Jono said it, it was in the context of "usually when a large ISV is approached, they say "for $xx,xxx, we'll build it for you." [09:26] Maybe I didn't quite understand.. If a new version of the radio comes out. How will I update the phone with it if I run ubuntu? [09:26] Kajover, if you use a nexus device there is already radio firmware ... ubuntu will run on it ... if you buy a preinstalled ubuntu phone in the future the manufacturer has put it in place already and you wont have to care either [09:26] Evernote was a rather notable exception, and I think that's working out pretty well. :) [09:26] nhaines, ah, k [09:26] yeah, they do great stuff [09:27] Kajover, we make sure the ubuntu radio stack will work with it, you dont need to upgrade it [09:27] Yes but don't I need to upgrade it.. To benefit from improvements? [09:27] Kajover: what improvements? [09:27] what improvements ? [09:27] heh [09:27] Fixes etc.. It is still a firmware update, No? [09:28] Yeah, but then you could break Ubuntu compatibility. [09:28] what is broken that you need fixed in your firmware ? [09:28] ogra_: sometimes Android firmware updates improve LTE performance or have other nice tweaks. In the Android world people like to tweak radio firmware and flash different phone models. [09:29] ogra_: It's a thing. [09:29] I don't know.. On my Nexus 4 I am sure there won't be any significant changes but if you have a new phone there might be some changes worth upgrading for. [09:29] Kajover: new phones wouldn't be supported by Ubuntu anyway. [09:29] if you have a phone with ubuntu preinstalled, the firmware will be upgraded alongside [09:29] automatically [09:30] OK. So are there any drawbacks from installing touch? [09:30] Are there any phones with ubuntu pre-installed? [09:30] Kajover: Just dual-boot it. Get MultiROM Manager or something. [09:30] There are two phones with Ubuntu preinstalled coming this Autumn. [09:30] for nexus devices where users have to fiddle with scripts from a PC to even get it installed upgrading radio or bootloader can both brick the device so we rather care that all firmware works with our stack ... if you want to you can manually flash your firmware but we wont do that automatically [09:31] I didn't think about dual booting it.. That is a nice way to try it out. Thank you for the tip. [09:31] ogra_: it's not fun if it's not dangerous. :) [09:32] Ubuntu still doesnt havy many apps, there are still some missing features (whatsapp, jabber ... email ... ) beyond that it is suitable for daily use [09:32] really depends what you need [09:32] * ogra_ is happy with his ubuntu phone but i dont use things like whatsapp for example, so i'm not missing anything [09:32] Kajover: the main drawback is after you use Ubuntu for a bit, you spend the next hour edge-swiping in Android but nothing happens. :) [09:33] Well.. Phone, Internet and messaging over the internet.. That is it so far. [09:33] Hehe [09:33] I have seen a number of people switch away from whatsapp to Telegram [09:33] * popey notes we have a Telegram webapp in the store ㋛ [09:33] That for instance could be an alternative. [09:33] Does anyone have any idea when new header stuff will land in the stack and on the SDK? [09:34] popey: did you get the bugs for the screensaver? [09:34] davmor2: i experienced it this morning [09:34] got a bug number? [09:34] Literally every time I schedule some time to do app design, something major changes. :P [09:35] popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1292069 [09:35] One more thing.. Would you install touch now or wait till 14.04 releases? [09:35] Ubuntu bug 1292069 in Unity "After locking the screen manually (Ctrl+Alt+L), then walking away, need to unlock twice" [High,Confirmed] [09:36] Kajover: just use the "devel" or "trusty" branch and you won't get daily updates, but they will have been very thoroughly tested. [09:39] Ah still one more.. What about contact synchronization? Am I able to synchronize my contacts with Google or Microsoft.. Or any other service? [09:39] .. The same for the calendar. [09:40] No, but soon, with Google. [09:40] Unless you use the commandline to sync your contacts. Then yes now. [09:45] Soon Google is enough for me. Thanks. === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [10:06] Is GSM/4G version of nexus 7 2013 supported? [10:07] timppa, no, but i think Tassadar has a community build for it [10:07] ogra_: sh**, just bought one [10:08] timppa, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06721.html [10:08] he should have images for deb ... [10:08] Morning all [10:08] (and afaik they work fine since they are derived from our flo (wifi version) images) [10:09] hopefully [10:09] thanks! [10:09] ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty --bootstrap=true --server="http://system-image.tasemnice.eu" [10:09] should get you going [10:12] ogra_: is that for hammerhead only? [10:12] timppa, no, for deb too afaik [10:13] i see deb files here http://cdimage.tasemnice.eu/20140308/ [10:13] and here http://system-image.tasemnice.eu/trusty-proposed/deb/ [10:13] I will try [10:23] hopefully there will be officially supported version on the gsm version of n7 also [10:27] hey all - i have a question about ubuntu touch [10:28] at its base, is the operating system ubuntu or android ? [10:28] it is ubuntu but for using the binary blobs there runs a very small android inside an lxc container (for modem, sensor and graphics drivers) [10:29] (oh, and the camera firmware) [10:29] hi just wondering: is anyone aware of a generic bug where updated clickpackages fail to start, but they do after a reboot? [10:29] matv1, havent seen that, please file one [10:30] ogra are you sure thats not known? I have seen this before on quite a few ocaisions over well last year actualy. just not lately [10:30] but seeing it again just now after updating the calc [10:30] well, i can update packages fine here and they work [10:31] just did so yesterday [10:31] oh i am on maguro btw [10:31] ah, k [10:31] still want that bug rep then? [10:31] maguro is not being tested or promoted anymore [10:31] i know [10:31] sure ... though mention that you are on maguro [10:32] ok will do [10:33] ogra do i need to pastebin some logs? i am not sure which if any would be usefull [10:34] add the logs for the app from /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/ [10:34] and if you have also whatever related you find in /var/crash/ [10:35] ok i will see whats there [10:35] thnx [10:36] so what're the chances of landing 5.2 today [10:37] cwayne, good i'd say [10:38] everything sits in proposed already [10:38] and the last non 5.2 build looks really good, that should give us a few days wiggle room to land it [10:39] (dnot expect any new image promotions within the next week though 5.2 will likely break a lot even though we tra to test everything in advance) [10:39] *try [10:41] right, i jsut want it to get into -proposed for now :) [10:41] that already happened, but it is still blocked [10:43] well i meant a -proposed image [10:45] ogra_: paste.ubuntu.com/7089432 [10:46] timppa, hmm, talk to Tassadar once he is around [10:47] I will [10:47] unless sergiusens has an idea ... might be a prob with ubuntu-device-flash ... [10:47] (though i suspect it is rather server side) [10:48] Damn I'm pissed about myself (once again) for not looking up thibngs better... :( [10:48] I really thought that it's the same device and supported as the WiFi model... [10:49] ubuntu-device-flash has one update available, will try again [10:50] ah now it seems to do something [10:50] * Flashing version 236... [10:50] :D [10:55] yay [10:59] ogra_, about what? [11:01] timppa, 2014/03/14 12:43:48 invalid character '<' looking for beginning of value ... that's most likely a failure to decode the json; I'll make the error message clearer [11:03] sergiusens: I updated the ubuntu-device-flash package and it started working again [11:06] what is Binder_2 process? [11:07] the kernel IPC mechanism the binary blobs communicate through [11:08] ogra_: ok, it was hogging 100% CPU for a while [11:08] ogra_: Now I have r236 on my N7 :D [11:08] congrats ! === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [11:19] is there a way to make sure a ppa is building against -proposed? [11:29] ogra_, ^ any idea? [11:29] nope [11:35] cwayne: looks at build logs [11:35] look* [11:35] you should see the update from -proposed [11:35] otherwise, if you are the ppa owner, you can check the switch [11:35] ah, how do you do that? [11:36] ah nm [11:36] got it, thanks didrocks! [11:36] yw ;) [11:44] If I change the hostname on UT will it survive the OTA update? [11:45] Now I have a problem regarding ssh keys, hostname is the same on Nexus 4 and Nexus 7... [11:56] timppa: yeah, it's annoying having multiple "ubuntu-phablet" hostnames around here [11:58] should be changable now with hostnamectl [12:01] popey, cwayne thanks! [12:06] yes! this is awesome! Using terminal is way better on n7. Now I can use irssi with this :) [12:07] and gsm works also, no need to depend on wireless :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:18] hey guys how do you do call switching? [12:19] davmor2: get a second phone to call you [12:20] popey: just tried it went through to answering machine as the line was busy [12:20] same here [12:20] might need enabling on the account [12:21] yeah, checked on my iphone, it does the same [12:27] holding my breath while performing step 4 on this nexus 4 i bought only for ubuntu touch ;D === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [12:31] Saviq: do you know when the landscape mode for nexus 7 2013 is due to land? the one we had for mwc? [12:31] I'd like to do some more extensive landscape app testing, but would rather not use a dated mwc build. [12:32] the installation procedure seems to be well documented and rather streamlined already :D [12:33] popey: does the light sensor actually work for you? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:36] popey, it's not gonna land [12:36] popey, it was a hack [12:36] popey, we need proper shell rotation that's due post-14.04 [12:39] Saviq: so we wont get landscape on the nexus 7 for 14.04? [12:41] popey, lol [12:42] popey, nice pic on g+ [12:42] popey, 'fraid not, no [12:42] rickspencer3: taken with ubuntu phone ☻ [12:42] Saviq: hmm. bummer. thanks. [12:43] Saviq, can't we just hard code the shell rotated into landscape mode rather than portrait? [12:43] rickspencer3, it's not just about the shell [12:44] rickspencer3, it's about app placement as well, so main/sidestage is the biggest issue there [12:44] Saviq, but Nexus 10? [12:44] rickspencer3, that's natively landscape [12:44] rickspencer3, Nexus 7 is natively portrait [12:44] Saviq, did we give up on some lower level workaround? seems it must be possible [12:45] Saviq, right, so Nexus 10 we'll have sidestage and etc... soon, right? [12:45] we have now on N10 [12:45] rickspencer3, it's there all the time [12:45] such as it is [12:45] ok, good [12:45] :) [12:45] thanks [12:45] we have a few fixes in store for that, and we're starting to work on the right edge for it [12:45] new right edge, that is [12:46] but i thought the whole purpose of choosing the n7 was that it was big enough for sidestage [12:46] hence the removal of n10 as officially supported [12:46] we did not remove n10 btw [12:46] pmcgowan, yes, we went for a unity-mir/unity8-level, otherwise transforming input was an issue [12:47] cwayne, and sure, it is big enough for sidestage, but because it's native portrait, it's the wrong orientation for a side stage... === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:58] hi guys, can I post a question? and the question is: I see an update to build 237 where do I find information on the changes in that build? [12:59] hapee, the "unofficial" way is to check http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/ [12:59] we dont really have proper release notes for each image [13:00] thanks pmcgowan this is good enough [13:01] also the landing team email try to spot the biggest changes [13:01] hapee: pmcgowan ^ [13:03] interesting. i just went onto the contacts thingie and an error message about a "terminal not being able to be configured remotely" popped up [13:05] hm, i wonder if i can get carddav support to work somehow [13:14] hmm, is there a built in way to lock the device with a pin/password? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:45] hm, uninstalling the gmail and facebook apps failed with an error [13:45] is that expected? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:58] popey: can you reflash #236 and try to install? do you have the .wrtable_image file on your phone? neither alecu nor myself could reproduce your bug :-/ [13:59] dobey: i will a bit later, yes. [14:00] k [14:09] mandel: hi! where are things with the new u-d-m and s-i silo? [14:21] cjwatson: so beuno is adding support for multiple frameworks now [14:21] he will send an email to the list [14:24] t1mp, got a moment? [14:25] lool: ok, so we found what's needed [14:25] for click and apparmor [14:26] MacSlow: sure [14:34] lool: ok, so phone-side, apart from the click ones, we should be ready (but messaging-app) === kyleN-afk is now known as kyleN === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [14:51] barry, qt5 is very close to land, we have l39 for us and we will request the silo asap [14:51] barry, we should get it later today and we will be able to test it in the devices [14:51] beuno: as discussion, we introduced the ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev framework (maybe it will get renamed) [14:51] beuno: mind taking that one into account, even if it's short-lived? [14:51] mandel: sounds good! [14:53] didrocks: it was supposed to be -dev1 [14:54] didrocks: and you didn't declare the new Base-Name and Base-Version fields [14:54] didrocks: I was going to do that when I added it, it's actually fairly important [14:54] cjwatson: ah, we can still change it. Just trying to get things unblocked (I wasn't involved into the preparation and being dropped in the middle :/) [14:54] didrocks: mind if I rename it now and add those fields? I don't want to have to clean this up later [14:54] cjwatson: sure sure :) [14:55] you are doing both upload? [14:55] or can I help? [14:55] didrocks, sure thing, I'll add it to the store as supported in a short while [14:55] beuno: so ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1 [14:55] :) [14:55] so maybe I'll send an email to the list [14:55] and get a few +1s all around [14:55] and then add it [14:56] FWIW, landing it on the image won't break the scope/store [14:56] this is just so people can upload apps that target that [14:56] didrocks: both uploads? [14:56] beuno: click will need to be changed too [14:56] cjwatson: yeah, the click apparmor needs a change, I can do it [14:56] so -dev1? [14:56] didrocks: I'd be more comfortable if we let the security team take care of that, personally [14:57] cjwatson: jdstrand isn't around and we are in the middle of the transaction, do you know who else from the security team can help? [14:57] there's no transaction here [14:57] apps are still built against 13.10 with click chroot, nothing changes [14:57] cjwatson: well, all images will fail without that [14:57] Touch image [14:57] why do image builds fail? [14:58] because we can't generate a profile for the apps that needs a rebuild [14:58] * cjwatson uploads http://paste.ubuntu.com/7090583/ [14:58] (click apps) === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk [14:58] well, I guess only if the change is really obvious [14:58] you don't need to change click for that though - that can wait for next week [14:59] that's only for building apps with click chroo [14:59] t [14:59] cjwatson: it is really obvious (it's only click apparmor, not click) [14:59] well, sort of. click-apparmor ought to be using libclick to get the framework name/version [14:59] cjwatson: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/169495245/click-apparmor_0.1.15.3_0.1.15.4.diff.gz [14:59] I guess it isn't totally terrible to hardcode ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1 for now, but that code needs to not live for very long [14:59] (yeah, it doesn't use default is the .framework file is present) [15:00] cjwatson: right, that's why I don't do a MP and will email jamie directly [15:00] I have no idea whether that's OK or not, but your call I guess [15:00] please rename to -dev1 though :) [15:00] cjwatson: we tested [15:00] yeah, that was the "second upload" I was mentionning [15:00] mentioning* [15:00] oh I see [15:01] what's going on? [15:01] I expect the profile isn't right, but I suppose it will work well enough for the core apps we ship [15:01] ah jdstrand :) [15:01] we landed 14.04 frameworks today? [15:01] jdstrand: yeah, due to 5.2 transition [15:02] there is a landing in Pending for 0.2 [15:02] it is well tested locally [15:02] jdstrand: so, we were looking/poking around to see what needs to be changed framework-wise [15:02] jdstrand: ah excellent, let's use your work then [15:02] jdstrand: this is with ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1? [15:02] jdstrand: I just uploaded ubuntu-touch-meta with ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1, plus the Base-Name and Base-Version fields for all frameworks [15:03] it also doesn't use libclick, but that was a practical matter of things landing all around the same time. I have a plan to move to it, but 0.2 will work fine [15:03] jdstrand: there was another issue we had when popey tried to install his app for ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1 [15:03] jdstrand: we needed that: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/169495245/click-apparmor_0.1.15.3_0.1.15.4.diff.gz [15:03] ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1 is one of the frameworks in the testsuite. it will work with 0.2 [15:03] jdstrand: Once that's in place, you should safely be able to use from gi.repository import Click; Click.Framework.open etc. [15:03] or Click.Framework.get_frameworks [15:04] and framework.get_base_name() and .get_base_version() should work [15:04] I'd prefer to not switch to libclick today, as I'm off. but, like I said, 0.2 is ready and will work with the frameworks specified in the wiki, including -dev1 [15:04] sure, I'm off too :) [15:04] :) [15:04] just popping in [15:04] cjwatson: I think you can now actually be off, and I'll be on for a bit, assuming this is the last thing you are working on :) [15:05] jdstrand: how can we help to not destroy your day off? [15:05] yep. I needed a break for carrying things around anyway ... [15:05] jdstrand: feel free to ignore my upload then, but it was the only thing that enabled us to have aa-easy-proof -f regenarating the profile [15:05] didrocks: give me a silo, I'll test while eating breakfast. it won't take long. I finished all the new tests, testsuite, local testing, the MP, etc, etc this week. I'm ready to start the landing if you are [15:06] I've not looked at 0.1.15.4 and would prefer to use 0.2, since it is well tested [15:06] didrocks: you mean aa-clickhook -f right? [15:06] is 0.1.15.4 uploaded? [15:07] jdstrand: yeah, but we can ignore it :) [15:08] jdstrand: ok, I ran "build" forcing to ignore the version [15:08] jdstrand: silo 008 [15:08] didrocks: so, 0.1.15.4 went through the proce and I need to merge in its changes, or was it uploaded outside of the process? [15:09] s/proce/process/ [15:09] jdstrand: I didn't know if you fix the branch ownership, hence the direct upload (but tested the same way) [15:09] (note, I mentioned in Pending that this was needed for the new frameworks) [15:09] btw: is it ok to just use the apt tools on the commandline via adb shell to install software, etc> [15:09] ? [15:09] or does that harm the system in any way [15:10] I prefer the direct upload for this, since now I can truly ignore it :) [15:10] i wonder if there's an overview for linux power users on what goes and what doesn't with ubuntu touch [15:10] jdstrand: oh sure, please do if you tested ( [15:10] I have tested 0.2 extensively. I will do the silo and retest with the built packages [15:10] jdstrand: we'll need to fix the branch team then [15:10]