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| mapps | hmm whats the need for 2 wireless networks on vm | 05:13 |
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| mapps | 1 ghz and 1 2.4 | 05:13 |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: what do you mean? | 05:14 |
| MartijnVdS | 1x 5GHz and 1x 2.4? | 05:14 |
| mapps | well | 05:14 |
| mapps | yea | 05:14 |
| MartijnVdS | and what hardware you need for that? | 05:14 |
| mapps | er oops i said 1ghz and 1 2.4 | 05:14 |
| MartijnVdS | client side or access point side? | 05:14 |
| mapps | just the standard router they give us | 05:14 |
| mapps | i just wondered why | 05:14 |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: the 2.4 band is quite full, with other wifi networks, DECT, bluetooth, and lots of other things | 05:15 |
| mapps | ah will interfere with it? | 05:15 |
| mapps | so why not just use the 5ghz only?# | 05:15 |
| MartijnVdS | on 5GHz there are way more channels, with less overlap | 05:15 |
| MartijnVdS | 5GHz doesn't go through walls as well | 05:15 |
| MartijnVdS | And not every client device has a 5GHz radio, so backwards compatibility | 05:16 |
| mapps | good point | 05:16 |
| mapps | just looks funny haviong 4 wireless | 05:16 |
| mapps | 2 for BT FTC and 2 for Virgin media | 05:16 |
| MartijnVdS | I gave my 5GHz and 2.4GHz the same name + crypto | 05:17 |
| MartijnVdS | so my phone and laptop switch to the best signal automagically | 05:17 |
| Knightwise | morning everyone | 05:54 |
| Myrtti | mornin | 05:54 |
| mapps | morning | 05:59 |
| Knightwise | hey Myrtti mapps :) | 06:14 |
| Knightwise | how are you doin :- | 06:14 |
| mapps | wondering what to do today:D using last of my holiday been off since saturday till next weds | 06:18 |
| mapps | so i slept like 8pm-4am last night lol..so i guess il be sleeping odd hoursd today O_o | 06:18 |
| mapps | broke my laptop screen too..so there's another fun job for me | 06:19 |
| mapps | 3rd laptop screen ive had to replace:) | 06:20 |
| Knightwise | I would realy like to try installing the ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 2013 | 06:20 |
| Knightwise | just wondering how hard that is | 06:20 |
| mapps | ah yes | 06:20 |
| mapps | good idea Knightwise | 06:20 |
| mapps | i meant to try that too | 06:20 |
| mapps | but haven't got round to it..ive got the first Nexus7 im guessing mines 2012? | 06:20 |
| Knightwise | anyone know where the official documentation (and the official image on that is ? ) | 06:22 |
| mapps | ya | 06:22 |
| mapps | thewebsite | 06:22 |
| mapps | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 06:23 |
| mapps | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 06:23 |
| Knightwise | ah ok , that will give me a weekend project | 06:24 |
| mapps | ja looks like a long job | 06:24 |
| Knightwise | but can you also have the terminal apps like irssi and stuff on there ? | 06:25 |
| mapps | not sure | 06:25 |
| Knightwise | looks like it . | 06:27 |
| * Knightwise wondering if he should upgrade yet | 06:27 | |
| mapps | yea you should try it | 06:27 |
| mapps | im going to | 06:27 |
| mapps | i just hadn't yet because it looked like a long process LOL | 06:27 |
| jussi | o/ | 06:31 |
| jussi | its like 10 mins work to get touch on your device... | 06:33 |
| mapps | pffft | 06:35 |
| mapps | looks like a lot of reading | 06:35 |
| mapps | :D | 06:35 |
| jussi | not really. but then again, I did have popey helping me :D | 06:35 |
| jussi | bwahahahah | 06:35 |
| mapps | :) | 06:36 |
| * Knightwise will wait till popey gets here :p | 06:37 | |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:42 |
| MooDoo | upgrading? | 06:43 |
| Knightwise | nexus 7 to ubuntu touch | 06:43 |
| MooDoo | ah cool | 06:44 |
| jussi | oh btw, just a feeling of how good my week has been - we had this picture made on Wednesday :) http://is.gd/dsCGtK | 06:46 |
| * jussi grinsd | 06:46 | |
| MooDoo | oooooo wonderful :) congrats | 06:47 |
| mapps | jussi is pregnant! | 06:48 |
| mapps | unless im looking at the photo wrong | 06:48 |
| jussi | mapps: not I, but hte wife... :D | 06:48 |
| mapps | :) | 06:48 |
| mapps | first child? | 06:48 |
| jussi | mapps: second | 06:48 |
| mapps | ah | 06:49 |
| MooDoo | congrats :) | 06:49 |
| mapps | yes congrats jussi | 06:49 |
| jussi | thanks MooDoo, mapps :D | 06:49 |
| MooDoo | No you can join the 2 kids club ;) | 06:49 |
| MooDoo | s/no/now | 06:49 |
| mapps | ;] | 06:49 |
| mapps | 2 kids.sounds like a fulltime job! | 06:50 |
| MooDoo | it is :) | 06:50 |
| mapps | enough of a chore doing all the boring stuff for myself | 06:50 |
| MooDoo | mine are 5 and 2 :) | 06:50 |
| mapps | the cooking/cleaning all the really exciting stuff | 06:50 |
| jussi | mapps: your life changes. | 06:51 |
| jussi | (when you have kids) | 06:51 |
| mapps | i can imagine | 06:51 |
| jussi | both good and bad | 06:51 |
| mapps | i live on my own and have pretty much no rules | 06:51 |
| MooDoo | +1 | 06:51 |
| MooDoo | mapps: shut it | 06:51 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 06:51 |
| mapps | beyond pay my bills and go to work | 06:51 |
| mapps | lol | 06:51 |
| mapps | i still have to go to work!! | 06:51 |
| MooDoo | I love work, especially when I get home and smell the pooey nappies ;) | 06:52 |
| mapps | this first dates show on channel4 is so funny..hilarious when the daters dont get on | 06:52 |
| mapps | if they got on wouldn't be amusing at all lol | 06:52 |
| MooDoo | oh got I can't watch that type of program too cringe worthy :) | 06:52 |
| mapps | its so funny mate | 06:52 |
| mapps | when the girls like 'yea bill please' and they havent ordered | 06:52 |
| mapps | LOL | 06:52 |
| MooDoo | I end up wanting to punch the tv :) | 06:53 |
| mapps | 2 drinks and done..couldnt stand each other | 06:53 |
| mapps | this women cheated on her husband with a 22 yr old, shes like 40 and she's trying to claim its something to do with being bi-polar | 06:54 |
| mapps | err...do me a favour | 06:54 |
| MooDoo | lol ha ha ha ha | 06:55 |
| mapps | everytime I watch these shows, any reality shows i figure i wouldnt get on with like 99% of people | 06:55 |
| MooDoo | yeah we hate you too ;) | 06:55 |
| MooDoo | lol mwah! | 06:55 |
| mapps | lol | 06:55 |
| mapps | you havent been on any | 06:55 |
| mapps | ! | 06:55 |
| mapps | im guessing:) | 06:56 |
| MooDoo | no chance, I'm not that stupid | 06:56 |
| MooDoo | hay lets go on telly sound deperate and show people how dumb I am :) | 06:56 |
| MooDoo | I do that enough in RL ;) | 06:56 |
| mapps | yea i can do without it | 06:56 |
| mapps | i dont need to be on tv no desire | 06:56 |
| mapps | i dont need attention..not a five year old | 06:57 |
| jussi | the absolute worst reality tv show is.... (finish the sentence) | 07:10 |
| nigelb | jussi: are wildcards supported? :) | 07:12 |
| MooDoo | _1 | 07:12 |
| jussi | nigelb: no :P | 07:12 |
| MooDoo | I'm a celeb....... | 07:12 |
| jussi | MooDoo: what was that horrible one from wales? The Valley or something? | 07:13 |
| MooDoo | no idea, I dread to thinkg | 07:13 |
| mapps | hahaha yea ive seen it | 07:13 |
| mapps | the valleys | 07:13 |
| mapps | hideous | 07:13 |
| jussi | MooDoo: stay as far away as you possibly can | 07:15 |
| * jussi shivers. | 07:15 | |
| MooDoo | hehe:) | 07:15 |
| popey | morning all | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | morning popey | 08:02 |
| Myrtti | popey: does Sky come and nibble you when you need to say something on a work Hangout? I just had that experience, it's a bit annoying trying to shove the cat off while talking | 08:02 |
| popey | heh | 08:02 |
| popey | Salem does | 08:02 |
| Myrtti | almost strangled the cat with my headphone lead | 08:03 |
| popey | he mostly climbs on my desk during hangouts | 08:04 |
| Myrtti | https://plus.google.com/u/0/100016383867666174158/posts/Qvv711jG3UD <-- this morning | 08:04 |
| popey | awwwww | 08:05 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/3eIlcf7,gMe1S0c,97unblf,3DzW4a4,S1cd4v0,NvnoyAD,MHgWwMs,7cGpFDK,8DXGhuS,H8ReRsA | 08:05 |
| popey | happens a fair amount | 08:05 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/nSRJKwE,e4WTn08,DFbbAxE,P7OdIfw,sxeVqlg,dYnZfMT,7skcCCX,Xw9fzcP,JA3jOuD,tiRxP5n,iEPe4m7,gKitRqB,ay9ePyP,U3pjgz6,1oeqIU5,OszGF9S,YwCO9qV,IYOjYBg,DugCqLJ,Thlz1Wt,BTIIDpA,2veaRql,I9mOn1t,PoqPb4z,mYWWbNW,28BCHpQ | 08:05 |
| popey | means I get to do the cat-stache http://imgur.com/28BCHpQ | 08:06 |
| popey | Knightwise: wassup? | 08:06 |
| Knightwise | hey popey :à | 08:09 |
| Knightwise | might start playing around with putting ubuntu toch on the nexus 7 today :) | 08:09 |
| popey | nexus 7 2012 or 2013? | 08:09 |
| Knightwise | 2013 | 08:10 |
| Knightwise | I thought i read something that it was now officially supported ? | 08:10 |
| popey | yeah, it is | 08:10 |
| Knightwise | I mostly read books and watch video"s on my tablet .. so i think i can switch it over... | 08:11 |
| Knightwise | not sure if there is an ebook reader out there on touch. | 08:12 |
| popey | there is, it displays epubs | 08:12 |
| popey | upstream is a nice guy, has a bugtracker on github | 08:12 |
| popey | Beru | 08:12 |
| Knightwise | and do you know if you can run terminal apps in ubuntu touch ? | 08:13 |
| popey | Knightwise: it has a terminal | 08:19 |
| popey | the default image is read-only, but that's easily changed, and you could apt-get install stuff | 08:20 |
| popey | the downside with that is you lose whatever you apt-got when you do an over the air update | 08:20 |
| popey | swings and roundabouts | 08:20 |
| Knightwise | popey: sounds cool. So i could install stuff like irssi and all the command line apps ? | 08:26 |
| popey | yes | 08:26 |
| Knightwise | add keyboard and mouse and I have the smallest ubuntu machine in the house ? | 08:26 |
| popey | Knightwise: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-06-11-083953.png | 08:26 |
| Knightwise | * drool * | 08:26 |
| Knightwise | nexus 7 + wireshark + public wifi somewhere ... | 08:27 |
| ali1234 | i think the word "Terminal" needs to be bigger | 08:27 |
| Knightwise | And you can just flash it with an ubuntu machine .. right ? | 08:34 |
| popey | yes | 08:36 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 08:36 |
| bashrc | using a better power supply for the beaglebone. The previous one was only about 300mA | 08:37 |
| bashrc | so it would grey out if you tried to compile a kernel :) | 08:37 |
| DJones | You know its a bad start to the day when you think there's something wrong with your new glasses, then realise that they're fine and its just foggy | 08:51 |
| jussi | heh | 08:51 |
| popey | Friday was poached egg on toast day | 08:52 |
| popey | It can only go downhill from here | 08:52 |
| jussi | this is really cool to come accross :D http://www.ohwr.org/ | 08:52 |
| DJones | Bacon & sausage barm for me | 08:52 |
| jussi | cornflakes... | 08:53 |
| Myrtti | poached egg and tomato nomnomnom | 08:53 |
| mapps | i had eggs and bacon:D | 08:53 |
| jussi | popey: only beer can make it better :D | 08:53 |
| popey | \o/ #breakfast-uk | 08:53 |
| mapps | washed down with a FULL FAT COKE | 08:53 |
| mapps | none of this diet/zero taste nonsense | 08:53 |
| mapps | :) | 08:53 |
| popey | coke for breakfast? | 08:54 |
| mapps | yea i fancied one | 08:54 |
| popey | ☻ | 08:54 |
| * popey likes Pepsi Max | 08:54 | |
| mapps | didn't have any juice so it was water/tea or coke | 08:54 |
| Myrtti | I splurged and brewed a pot of Yorkshire | 08:55 |
| * neuro is on the Diet Irn-Bru | 08:55 | |
| Myrtti | having drunk Twinings English Breakfast for a week the difference is very noticeable | 08:55 |
| Myrtti | well, two weeks | 08:55 |
| neuro | and i'm just about to go out and get rolls and bacon and brown sauce | 08:55 |
| jussi | diet drinks are so horrible. not only taste, but aspartame is really nasty stuff. | 08:55 |
| neuro | says you | 08:56 |
| mapps | what is it Myrtti? fancy tea? | 08:56 |
| mapps | yes jussi aspartame causes the cancer! | 08:56 |
| mapps | zero sugar..zero taste! | 08:56 |
| Myrtti | mapps: Yorkshire? just plain tea. | 08:57 |
| neuro | diet irn bru tastes fine to me | 08:57 |
| neuro | so does fanta zero, diet 7up and diet coke with cherry | 08:57 |
| mapps | the engliosh breakfast you talked of | 08:57 |
| mapps | i didnt know there was a diet coke w/cherry | 08:57 |
| neuro | yup | 08:57 |
| mapps | ugh | 08:57 |
| mapps | 400kb/s | 08:57 |
| mapps | on VM atm, why's it so slow | 08:57 |
| neuro | it's a black cherry flavour rather than the red cherry that you get in full fat cherry coke | 08:57 |
| mapps | wish i could link my VM + BT | 08:58 |
| mapps | but feels like it'd be too much effort | 08:58 |
| Myrtti | mapps: no, just plain tea too http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256431702 | 08:58 |
| * neuro hugs his 2x80Mbps VDSL2 lines and wanders off for BACON | 08:58 | |
| bashrc | I had a continental/Yorkshire breakfast | 09:03 |
| Knightwise | popey: what was the url again (it scrolled offscreen) | 09:05 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ask A Question Day! :-D | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: Why? | 09:13 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, what? | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | how? | 09:13 |
| JamesTait | Who wants to know? | 09:13 |
| nigelb | Oh, the Answer a Question day is on Monday? | 09:13 |
| JamesTait | nigelb, where did you hear that? | 09:14 |
| JamesTait | Is anyone keeping track of these questions, so we can answer them on Monday? | 09:14 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, did you need something from me last night? | 09:15 |
| nigelb | JamesTait: I didn't. Do you know if it is? | 09:15 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: not really, just wanted to say thnaks for posting the job advert on FB :) | 09:15 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, did you see that I "liked" your comment on FB? | 09:16 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, also, did you realise you just broke the chain of questions? :-P | 09:16 |
| JamesTait | nigelb, does such a thing even exist? | 09:16 |
| nigelb | Don't you think it would be a good thing to exist? | 09:17 |
| popey | Knightwise: google for ubuntu touch install ☻ | 09:18 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: yes and no | 09:18 |
| JamesTait | nigelb, but where will it end? | 09:19 |
| mapps | Knightwise https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 09:19 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: hello | 09:25 |
| Knightwise | got it :) backing up now :-) | 09:28 |
| mapps | let me know how easy it is..i may try it after | 09:30 |
| Knightwise | hahah :) ok mapps :) i'll be your beta tester | 09:33 |
| neuro | BAAAAAAAAAACOOOOOOOOON! (to be screamed as though shouting "captain caveman") | 09:35 |
| MooDoo | o/ BACON! | 09:35 |
| neuro | i bet most of you whippersnappers won't even remember Captain Caveman without googling for it | 09:35 |
| Knightwise | someone needs their ADD meds | 09:35 |
| Knightwise | ooonga Mooonga ! | 09:35 |
| * Knightwise remembers | 09:36 | |
| MartijnVdS | IDDQD meds? | 09:36 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: IDKFA! | 09:36 |
| neuro | \o/ | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: IDSPISPOPD | 09:36 |
| Knightwise | oh boy | 09:36 |
| Knightwise | its friday .. right ? | 09:36 |
| neuro | no | 09:36 |
| MooDoo | blast from the past :D | 09:36 |
| Knightwise | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD36ZhpHPpE | 09:36 |
| neuro | due to unforeseen technical difficulties, we've had to rollback to Thursday | 09:37 |
| neuro | sorry about that | 09:37 |
| diplo | Captain Caveman was great! | 09:37 |
| * Knightwise should have probably deleted the videos and mp3's off his nexus before running the backup | 09:39 | |
| popey | CAPTAIN | 09:39 |
| Knightwise | CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE | 09:39 |
| popey | ____ ___ _______ __ __ _ _ _ _ | 09:39 |
| popey | / ___| / \ \ / / ____| \/ | / \ | \ | | | | 09:39 |
| popey | | | / _ \ \ / /| _| | |\/| | / _ \ | \| | | | 09:39 |
| popey | | |___ / ___ \ V / | |___| | | |/ ___ \| |\ |_| | 09:39 |
| popey | \____/_/ \_\_/ |_____|_| |_/_/ \_\_| \_(_) | 09:39 |
| popey | 09:39 | |
| Knightwise | ROFL ! ! ! ! | 09:39 |
| MooDoo | oh dear god no, let the pain stop :) | 09:39 |
| neuro | ROLL AND | 09:40 |
| neuro | ___ _ _ _ _ ___ ___ ___ ___ _ _ _ _ | 09:40 |
| neuro | | _ ) /_\ /_\ /_\ /_\ / __/ _ \ / _ \ / _ \| \| | \| | | 09:40 |
| neuro | | _ \/ _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ (_| (_) | (_) | (_) | .` | .` | | 09:40 |
| neuro | |___/_/ \_\/_/ \_\/_/ \_\/_/ \_\___\___/ \___/ \___/|_|\_|_|\_| | 09:40 |
| MooDoo | http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/caveman.jpg | 09:41 |
| Knightwise | remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOKAU8chsAA | 09:41 |
| neuro | bravestarr was rubbish | 09:41 |
| Knightwise | our comic book store had all the action figures in a collection last week | 09:41 |
| directhex | any train nerds in here? | 09:42 |
| Knightwise | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmlSNvOQnkE And this | 09:42 |
| Knightwise | proto he-man | 09:43 |
| neuro | discount buck rogers | 09:43 |
| Knightwise | LOL | 09:44 |
| Knightwise | true | 09:44 |
| * Knightwise watched some star trek animated series last week | 09:44 | |
| MooDoo | biddy biddy biddy | 09:44 |
| Knightwise | gill gerard was cool in his day | 09:45 |
| neuro | this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExC6OEQazrc - is still the greatest kids tv show of the 80s though | 09:45 |
| neuro | gil gerard has been popping up in the star trek new voyages / phase II fan series | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | I loved that | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | ahahaha YES | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | neuro: my fave show ever!!!!!! http://youtu.be/U6Ng7VMqet0 | 09:46 |
| ali1234 | gotta love weird puppets | 09:46 |
| neuro | EEEEY OOOP LITTLE OLD LAAAADYYYYY | 09:46 |
| MooDoo | hehe | 09:46 |
| Knightwise | he | 09:47 |
| Knightwise | i htought that show was called Bomber-X | 09:47 |
| neuro | Knightwise: it was | 09:47 |
| neuro | but the dubbed UK version was redone | 09:47 |
| neuro | GREAT SPOTTED DRAAAAAGONNNN! | 09:48 |
| Knightwise | cool , nice to find that | 09:49 |
| Knightwise | I think i should download a couple of epps | 09:49 |
| neuro | same as Battle of the Planets was really Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, with some added bits (mainly 7-Zark-7) | 09:49 |
| Knightwise | i LOVED battle of the planets | 09:53 |
| Knightwise | I hated that little robot though | 09:53 |
| neuro | you'd probably love Gatchaman then, since he's not in it ;) | 09:53 |
| Knightwise | this is the french intro to "star fleet" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiScuDJPR2g | 09:54 |
| Knightwise | looking back .. its terrible | 09:55 |
| neuro | wow, that's cheesy | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | that looks more like the closing titles | 09:56 |
| Knightwise | i know , because of french cultural law 80% of tv shows need to be in french | 09:56 |
| Knightwise | so they dubbed EVERYTHING | 09:56 |
| MartijnVdS | dubbing should be a capital crime | 09:57 |
| bashrc | magic roundabout? | 09:57 |
| Knightwise | without a doubt : the worst one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNX1NRC7q0 | 09:57 |
| neuro | this is the japanese original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GisZ07wsiVY | 09:57 |
| neuro | i think we got the best deal to be honest | 09:58 |
| neuro | and yeah, that was the closing credits | 09:59 |
| neuro | opening credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umubCnZ4PRY | 09:59 |
| ali1234 | did anyone else watch the japanese thunderbirds cartoon? | 10:01 |
| neuro | Thunderbirds 2086? | 10:01 |
| ali1234 | yes | 10:01 |
| neuro | haha | 10:02 |
| neuro | original title was 科学救助隊テクノボイジャ | 10:02 |
| neuro | Scientific Rescue Team Techno Voyager | 10:02 |
| neuro | "loosely inspired", but ITC bought the UK rights and rebranded it Thunderbirds | 10:02 |
| Knightwise | I think i remember that | 10:03 |
| ali1234 | it used to be on kids tv in the 80s... | 10:03 |
| neuro | i don't remember watching it | 10:04 |
| neuro | interesting though that the UK opening titles are like terrahawks ... | 10:04 |
| ali1234 | well i expect those are totally original | 10:04 |
| neuro | ? | 10:05 |
| neuro | well duh | 10:05 |
| ali1234 | the "computer" graphics stuff | 10:05 |
| neuro | since the japanese original wasn't called Thunderbirds 2086 :) | 10:05 |
| Knightwise | youtube-dl .. i love you | 10:05 |
| neuro | TB actually stood for "TechnoBoyager" but obviously a homage to "Thunderbird" | 10:06 |
| neuro | japanese opening titles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yzMSTsKbhk | 10:06 |
| neuro | oh, same music, heh | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | they don't make kids shows like this any more | 10:08 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:08 |
| ali1234 | about 20 people were killed in the first 5 minutes | 10:09 |
| neuro | not in western cartoons | 10:09 |
| neuro | in fact that was one of the things they edited out of Gatchaman when making Battle of the Planets | 10:09 |
| ali1234 | yeah i guess what i meant was they don't SHOW kids tv like this any more | 10:10 |
| ali1234 | HAHAHA "stun gun" - yeah right | 10:11 |
| davmor2 | neuro: reminds me more of battle of the planets :) | 10:12 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:17 |
| mapps | morning | 10:18 |
| brobostigon | morning mapps | 10:18 |
| bashrc | I vaguely remember battle of the planets | 10:20 |
| bashrc | wasn't it a cartoon in which htere were a lot of exploding space ships? | 10:20 |
| awilkins | Yeah, and again, five young people | 10:21 |
| awilkins | What is it with Japan and teams of 5 young people | 10:21 |
| davmor2 | neuro: or battle of the planets merged with thunderbirds maybe :D | 10:21 |
| bashrc | fab 5 | 10:21 |
| awilkins | BATTLE OF THE THUNDERBIRDS | 10:21 |
| bashrc | they should have crossed battle of the planets with the magic roundabout | 10:22 |
| mapps | sweet | 10:29 |
| mapps | new laptop screen arrived! | 10:29 |
| mapps | only ordered it yesterday:) | 10:29 |
| brobostigon | :) | 10:29 |
| MooDoo | wow that's quick | 10:30 |
| jussi | nice | 10:40 |
| mapps | ya | 10:55 |
| mapps | but | 10:55 |
| mapps | they are only up the road judging by the postcode | 10:55 |
| mapps | yea 30mins in a car | 10:56 |
| davmor2 | mapps: maybe drive there next time and it will be 30 mins rather than an entire day ;) | 11:01 |
| mapps | i dont have a car :( | 11:03 |
| mapps | so itd be a nice long walk heh | 11:03 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| jussi | Cool, Katherine Legge will be racing in Formula E! :D http://www.fiaformulae.com/drivers | 11:15 |
| directhex | electric racing series? fancy | 11:33 |
| directhex | and hooray. the lack of female drivers in motorsports is silly, especially considering small lightweight drivers are preferred | 11:34 |
| directhex | hmph, the test driver for our local team died. that's sad. | 11:37 |
| jussi | directhex: oh thats crap :/ | 11:38 |
| jussi | but yeah, the Electric series looks really interesting. | 11:38 |
| jussi | Should spell a lot of development in batteries and so on | 11:38 |
| directhex | jussi, she had a nasty crash in 2012, apparently caused her to not wake up in late 2013 | 11:40 |
| jussi | directhex: ouch. Has happened to the best of them though | 11:40 |
| mapps | what is forumla e? | 11:41 |
| directhex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_de_Villota | 11:41 |
| jussi | mapps: like formula 1, but electric | 11:43 |
| directhex | most motorsport is in the local area here | 11:44 |
| directhex | which is probably something to do with silverstone being down the road | 11:44 |
| jussi | directhex: I went and drove a mclaren the other day :D | 11:47 |
| jussi | (at 3 sisters in wigan | 11:47 |
| directhex | anyone have a 4000-series or older radeon? | 11:50 |
| jussi | not I, mostly intel with a smattering of nvidia here | 11:52 |
| brobostigon | yes, loads of motorsport around here. | 11:52 |
| Dave2 | poor women, why did you deliberately run them over | 11:54 |
| brobostigon | it seems sad really, if comedians have nothing better to do, the bbc commisions them to do chat shows. | 12:00 |
| awilkins | Yeah, but it's discovered that if you fire them they become political activists (Russell Brand) | 12:05 |
| brobostigon | russell brand shouldnt have anyhting to do with either imo. | 12:14 |
| brobostigon | he is a nut. | 12:15 |
| jussi | mmmm... hot english mustard | 12:17 |
| jussi | also, horseradish sauce is something I need to see if I can find here... | 12:18 |
| jussi | Myrtti: know if its possible to get it here? | 12:18 |
| mapps | hm | 12:23 |
| mapps | installed fedora on my desktop and now its not got vista listed in the boot menu for grub | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: does it also ahve a Windows partition? | 12:23 |
| mapps | yea | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | or a recovery partition | 12:24 |
| mapps | it shows windows 7 | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | heh.. someone's detection is outdated | 12:24 |
| mapps | what a pain | 12:24 |
| mapps | so i need to manually edit grub | 12:24 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: A well educated Nut :) | 12:25 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: good point, yes. | 12:26 |
| davmor2 | I find it mildly amusing that most comedians are university graduates as are most ageing rockstars :D | 12:27 |
| MooDoo | hello davmor2 | 12:27 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: the stupid rockstars drugged themselves into an early grave? | 12:28 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: haha | 12:29 |
| awilkins | More like the working class guys didn't have time to practise guitar | 12:29 |
| mapps | hmm | 12:30 |
| mapps | os-prober only finding windows 7 | 12:30 |
| brobostigon | keith moon, for example. | 12:31 |
| jussi | ooh, cool, there will be an event in london (formula e) | 12:33 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| jussi | fair bit of wind here now... | 12:41 |
| brobostigon | 5mph wind here. | 12:46 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: more like working class guys could afford the instruments | 12:56 |
| brobostigon | like mark knopfler. | 12:59 |
| jussi | brobostigon: we've got somewhere about a 7 on the beaufort scale. | 13:03 |
| jussi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale | 13:03 |
| jussi | maybe an 8 | 13:04 |
| brobostigon | jussi: i shall have to work out how to convert the scales. | 13:07 |
| jussi | :D | 13:07 |
| MartijnVdS | Wind speeds are always in "Beaufort scale" numbers on weather reports here in .nl | 13:08 |
| brobostigon | i think i saw a way to display beaufort scaling on my pebbles weather app. | 13:08 |
| brobostigon | how could i abbreviate beaufort to fit on my watchface? | 13:10 |
| popey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpcAd__qHP0 Baufort scale sketch from mitchell & webb... | 13:10 |
| MartijnVdS | they have a sketch for everything | 13:11 |
| popey | indeed they do | 13:12 |
| popey | its one of my faves | 13:12 |
| MartijnVdS | the homeopathic a&e one is also a classic | 13:12 |
| popey | i used to go to sleep listening to mitchell & webb | 13:12 |
| mapp | ah no cbs reality here | 13:13 |
| mapp | grmpf..no judge judy for me today | 13:13 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| === TwistedLucidity is now known as CenZart | ||
| Myrtti | jussi: http://www.punnitse.fi/ http://www.littlebritannia.fi/ | 14:15 |
| Myrtti | jussi: make your own mustard from the powder | 14:15 |
| MooDoo | anyone playing riddling? | 14:16 |
| jussi | Myrtti: mustard I have. the horseradish sauce... | 14:16 |
| jussi | (hot english mustard is available in select citimarkets) | 14:16 |
| Myrtti | I'd be amazed if P&S or LB didn't have them | 14:16 |
| jussi | Myrtti: do the finns have an equivalent? "finnish version" ? | 14:17 |
| jussi | I have no idea what horseradish is in finnish... | 14:17 |
| Myrtti | piparjuuri | 14:17 |
| Myrtti | https://fi.foodie.fm/#!/entry/6417808347512 | 14:18 |
| Myrtti | https://fi.foodie.fm/#!/entry/8712566423392 | 14:18 |
| diddledan | lol @ the name "crème bonjour" - literally "cream hello" or "cream good day" | 14:20 |
| diddledan | did I spell cream right? I can spell crème fine, but doing it in my native language? | 14:21 |
| jussi | Myrtti: OH NOM. lets see if it tastse anything like what it should taste like... :D | 14:27 |
| bashrc | has anyone commented on Shuttleworth's beard? | 14:30 |
| jussi | bashrc: Ive seen many comments... | 14:30 |
| jussi | but do feel free :P | 14:31 |
| bashrc | I think it's an improvement | 14:32 |
| === CenZart is now known as TwistedLucidity | ||
| daftykins | i think it looks unprofessional | 14:44 |
| daftykins | unless you mean he's done something with it of late | 14:44 |
| popey | did you see him see why he did it? | 14:45 |
| daftykins | nah | 14:45 |
| popey | someone he knows got stopped by the TSA for hours.. when the guy left (was 100% innocent) he asked the TSA why they stopped him, the TSA guy said "to be honest, it was the beard" | 14:46 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 14:46 |
| popey | mark flies a lot, so i think he is trolling the TSA | 14:46 |
| popey | hoping to get stopped ☻ | 14:46 |
| popey | he used to have a t-shirt that said "I am not a terrorist" in arabic on it | 14:46 |
| === mapp is now known as mapps | ||
| daftykins | XD | 14:46 |
| popey | I guess if you travel a lot like he does, you get bored at customs ☻ | 14:47 |
| diddledan | lol | 14:47 |
| * diddledan fondles his own beard | 14:47 | |
| daftykins | if you ever see me in the big slopey queue at Gatwick, prepare to cry as i walk past all the queues and nip down the little 'Channel Island flights only' side bit ;) | 14:48 |
| daftykins | total bypass \o/ | 14:48 |
| daftykins | wow my client is seriously lucky | 14:48 |
| daftykins | i managed to find this on ebay... | 14:48 |
| daftykins | www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-Vaio-vgn-tt-keyboard-palm-rest-touch-pad-/111299104398 | 14:48 |
| daftykins | £14 to get a replacement keyboard for his water damaged one \o/ | 14:49 |
| popey | Myrtti: \o/ foldio on its way! | 14:50 |
| diplo | UK only daftykins - not causing you any issues for channel islands ? | 14:50 |
| daftykins | diplo: probably won't, we have postcodes so we kind of get the benefit of the doubt in such circumstances | 14:50 |
| diplo | :) | 14:51 |
| daftykins | i would rage if not | 14:51 |
| mapps | why does every idiot and their mum think they should go to ascot and cheltenham yet the rest of the year they dont care about horseracing at all | 14:54 |
| diddledan | mapps: for ladies' day | 14:54 |
| diddledan | it's a special celebration of hats | 14:55 |
| mapps | but todays just cheltenham day 2 and the papers show the usual tarted up girls and idiot guys in suits | 14:55 |
| diddledan | yeah well they're toffs or toff-wanabes :-p | 14:55 |
| mapps | dont see the point in going..I hated chester..having to wear a suit in the royal enclosure and paying more to do so? | 14:55 |
| mapps | 35 quid and HAD towear a suit normal tattersals like 10 quid wear anything | 14:56 |
| diddledan | nowt like paying money to be told what to wear | 14:57 |
| mapps | lol yea | 14:57 |
| mapps | pay more to be told i have to wear a suit and tie..and beer costs 4.50 | 14:57 |
| diddledan | ouch | 14:57 |
| mapps | and you can bet with the on course robbers....betfairs always better | 14:57 |
| directhex | i am bringing ye olde steamose back to life, under a new name | 14:59 |
| diddledan | lol @ on-course robbers with their refreshing little lifts (tic-tacs) | 15:00 |
| diddledan | directhex: valve shirking again? | 15:00 |
| directhex | diddledan, well, some stuff needs better coverage than it has right now, and r4 doesn't work properly anymore afaik | 15:01 |
| directhex | diddledan, so at least i need a "this is the same as valve" release | 15:01 |
| diddledan | aah | 15:01 |
| directhex | but i want to go further than that | 15:02 |
| directhex | first thing to do is rebuild my scripts, more or less from scratch, to handle being run from the .iso not the .zip | 15:02 |
| diddledan | not a bad kickstarter return: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weebl/the-savlonic-album | 15:04 |
| diddledan | just shy of 35k when they wanted 12.5k | 15:04 |
| dwatkins | Kickstarter never ceases to amaze me. | 15:09 |
| directhex | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/05/25 | 15:22 |
| * bigcalm wobbles in and out of existence | 15:26 | |
| Myrtti | popey: yeah, I noticed | 15:26 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: awesome, how do you manage that, 'cos I want to be able to do it, too :-) | 15:27 |
| bigcalm | diddledan: put an offer in on a house while your wife is out. I'm not sure if I should be alive or not right now | 15:27 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: eek | 15:28 |
| diddledan | that's scary stuff right there | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: wibble | 15:30 |
| diddledan | davmor2: if you had underpants on your head and a pencil stuffed up each nostril then I might think you were going mad | 15:31 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: it was aimed squarely at * bigcalm wobbles in and out of existence I think he has the underpants on his head and pencils up his nose :D | 15:32 |
| diddledan | as long as there are underpants and pencils somewhere I'll be happy | 15:33 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: more importantly why is diddledan not outraged at his wife being not only at your house but now out ;) | 15:36 |
| diddledan | lmao I missed that | 15:37 |
| diddledan | and there's a reason to delete a line and retype instead of repurposing something that's half-written | 15:38 |
| * bigcalm shakes his head | 15:39 | |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: it'll be fine as long as it is the house she loves and you like :) | 15:39 |
| bigcalm | Ha | 15:39 |
| bigcalm | We both love it | 15:39 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: better still | 15:39 |
| bigcalm | directhex: ratio 100 - can I stop seeding this torrent yet? ;) | 15:40 |
| daftykins | XD | 15:42 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: apparently it doesn't work anymore so it could be wise XD | 15:42 |
| ali1234 | why not? | 15:45 |
| bigcalm | Goodness me. People are still downloading it from me | 15:51 |
| bigcalm | 2 connections, one at 24% one at 76% | 15:51 |
| daftykins | :> | 15:51 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: shame you can't send them a message | 15:52 |
| daftykins | oh no? ;) | 15:52 |
| diddledan | like windows' net send only via bittorrent | 15:52 |
| ali1234 | you used to be able to do that on kazaa... | 15:54 |
| ali1234 | or one of those things | 15:54 |
| diddledan | really. don't google "rule 34". | 15:54 |
| diddledan | that's scary | 15:55 |
| ali1234 | why would you do that | 15:55 |
| bigcalm | Why wouldn't you do that? | 15:55 |
| diddledan | I need eyebleach now | 15:55 |
| daftykins | the nsfw search? :P | 15:56 |
| diddledan | yeah I don't have safesearch turned on | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | but | 15:56 |
| diddledan | maybe that would be a good idea for the futures | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | surely you must have known what you were getting in to? | 15:57 |
| diddledan | nope, I'd not heard of rule34 before | 15:57 |
| diddledan | which is scary in itself | 15:57 |
| TwistedLucidity | Why are people discussing "Rule 34" in a familty-friendly channel? There could be children reading. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! | 16:01 |
| TwistedLucidity | /daily-mail | 16:01 |
| awilkins | Rule 34 says that someone somewhere IS thinking of the children. | 16:01 |
| awilkins | And that there is a website devoted to publishing pictures of this person's musings | 16:02 |
| diddledan | I mentioned it as a public service announcement for the children to know what to avoid | 16:02 |
| TwistedLucidity | awilkins: I am sure Cameron rescinded Rule 34; so we are all safe. | 16:06 |
| bashrc | what is "rule 34"? It sounds like a Wolfram automaton | 16:07 |
| daftykins | if you can think of it, there's a grumble flick of it | 16:08 |
| daftykins | to use theregister's terminology | 16:08 |
| Knightwise | hey everyone | 16:42 |
| Knightwise | I seem to have a hard time getting the nexus 7 into the bootloader menu | 16:42 |
| brobostigon | adb reboot bootloader , would do it. | 16:50 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Knightwise | brobostigon: i moved up a step | 17:09 |
| brobostigon | Knightwise: clarify. | 17:10 |
| Knightwise | I forgot to boot it into bootloader | 17:10 |
| brobostigon | ok, | 17:10 |
| mapps | how far along are you with it now Knightwise | 17:10 |
| Knightwise | I just unlocked the bootloader | 17:11 |
| Knightwise | i'm at step 4 | 17:11 |
| Knightwise | downloading the image | 17:12 |
| brobostigon | have you flashed custom recovery? | 17:12 |
| Knightwise | erm ... | 17:12 |
| Knightwise | what do you mean by that ? | 17:13 |
| Knightwise | i entered ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap | 17:13 |
| brobostigon | something like CWM ? | 17:13 |
| Knightwise | nope , i just followed the steps on the wiki | 17:13 |
| brobostigon | ok, i havent actually flashed ubuntu touch, so couldnt tell you about that. | 17:13 |
| Knightwise | to boldly go ... :) | 17:14 |
| Knightwise | i now see a home screen with an ubuntu logo. | 17:14 |
| Knightwise | its rebooting the recovery from flash it says | 17:14 |
| Knightwise | booting | 17:14 |
| Knightwise | nice ubuntu logo :p | 17:14 |
| Knightwise | taking its sweet time :p | 17:15 |
| * Knightwise gonna get coffee | 17:16 | |
| mapps | nice | 17:16 |
| Knightwise | ok , i seem to et a question here | 17:18 |
| Knightwise | ROM may flash stock recovery on boot | 17:18 |
| Knightwise | Yes : disable recovery from flash | 17:18 |
| Knightwise | or NO | 17:18 |
| Knightwise | brobostigon: ? any advice ? | 17:19 |
| brobostigon | not sure, sorry. | 17:19 |
| daftykins | stock recovery might break something | 17:19 |
| daftykins | Knightwise: try #ubuntu-touch | 17:19 |
| brobostigon | good idea batman, ask the experts. | 17:19 |
| diddledan | seems sophos and os x don't mix | 17:20 |
| diddledan | http://openforum.sophos.com/t5/Sophos-Anti-Virus-for-Mac-Home/Sophos-9-causes-Mavericks-to-freeze/m-p/16279#M7456 | 17:20 |
| * Knightwise dashing over there | 17:20 | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW | ||
| diddledan | I may have shared this before, can't remember. but: http://grahamcluley.com/2014/02/pregnant-wifes-medical-equipment-windows-xp-chkdsk | 18:27 |
| diddledan | (I'm cleaning my inbox) | 18:28 |
| popey | hehe, not seen that before | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | why would a piece of medical equipment be connected to the internet? | 18:39 |
| diddledan | ali1234: bad network design | 18:40 |
| bigcalm | ARGH | 18:40 |
| bigcalm | Modal box covering whole screen. Good by website | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | the internet sucks | 18:41 |
| diddledan | ali1234: they may network it so that the nurses station can duplicate the information and the idiot network designer might wire their desktops and therefore the internet into the same segment | 18:41 |
| ali1234 | yes, i suppose | 18:41 |
| diddledan | similar to how you end up with air conditioners exposed to the internet allowing large companies to be pwned because they didn't know their aircon was vulnerable to attack | 18:42 |
| diddledan | I believe there was a thanksgiving issue last year of just that exact thing happening. hackers took control of air-con in stores and from there they had unrestricted access to the billing systems because the stores thought that behind the firewall was safe to leave the billing system unrestricted | 18:44 |
| popey | hah | 18:44 |
| diddledan | https://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/target-hackers-broke-in-via-hvac-company/ | 18:44 |
| popey | oh thats the target breach? blimey | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | that's some william gibson shiz right there | 18:45 |
| mapps | yea | 19:04 |
| mapps | read that a while back, the aircon company had remote access to monitor the systems | 19:05 |
| shauno | worth noting that doesn't mean the aircon was exposed to the internet; it means the partner company had access to target's network | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 19:11 |
| diddledan | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/13/google_cloud_price_cuts/ | 19:12 |
| diddledan | google has undercut it's own storage | 19:12 |
| diddledan | shauno: good point | 19:13 |
| davmor2 | Tainted Love what a classic | 19:13 |
| diddledan | it looks like it was a poorly guarded password to gain access to the network in target's case | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | my guess would be an inside job | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | by someone at the contractor | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | either that or a complicated heist involving dressing up like air-conditioner repair men and installing hardware backdoors | 19:15 |
| popey | company I worked for got done over by people dressed as aircon engineers | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | possibly a combination of both | 19:15 |
| popey | came in on a saturday and took half the RAM out of every PC in the building | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | "oops, i accidentally-on-purpose plugged our monitoring system into the company network" | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | "easily done, the ports are like right next to each other" | 19:16 |
| diddledan | in unrelated musings. with a bit of cutting and wrenching, the box that RS ship their RasPis in serves as a suitable run-time case once you can get the cables through the bodywork with the aforementioned cutting | 19:16 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:16 |
| daftykins | didn't fancy a cheap cute case? | 19:16 |
| diddledan | I fancy a better case, but this gets me up-n-running quickly | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | all you really need is anonymous to pull a fake terror alert on black friday and you basically have the first half of neuromancer | 19:18 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDZS7iYNsA | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | the thing about attacks that disrupt the internet is that they are self-limiting | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: true, but they're still annoying :) | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | yeah but that's about it for most people | 19:25 |
| diddledan | erm, I don't like his representation of IRC being for hackers | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | why? | 19:26 |
| diddledan | are you a hacker? | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: have you seen ircnet? | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | yes. | 19:26 |
| diddledan | as in the media representation of hacker | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | arguably | 19:26 |
| diddledan | what would more correctly be termed cracker | 19:27 |
| mapps | urgh gonna have to go for a nap in a bit | 19:27 |
| mapps | cant stop yawning;/ | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | i have the skills. i just don't use them for evil | 19:28 |
| diddledan | but would you consider that IRC is purely for hacker-types? | 19:29 |
| ali1234 | pretty much that and the occasional newb who wanders in by mistake | 19:30 |
| diddledan | lol | 19:30 |
| mapps | lol | 19:30 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 19:31 |
| MooDoo | anyone on ubuntu 14.04 and updated to the latest version? | 19:31 |
| diddledan | lol @ that video though, it's an entertaining explanation of the problem | 19:32 |
| MooDoo | after the latest update i've no unity :( | 19:32 |
| MooDoo | bug 1292396 | 19:32 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1292396 in unity (Ubuntu) "After upgrade Unity session is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292396 | 19:33 |
| mapps | will watch the vid in a sec..then its a quick 2-3hr nap for me | 19:33 |
| ali1234 | "xubuntu user unaffected" | 19:33 |
| ali1234 | i've got a question: when we get systemd and it's awesome containers, will we finally be able to easily deploy a proper juju cloud on a single dedicated server? | 19:35 |
| ali1234 | i know you can sort of do it now, but it's not very good... | 19:35 |
| MooDoo | ah well looks like i'm not the only one unity is broken for :D | 19:37 |
| DJones | I won't bother with todays updates then | 19:37 |
| MooDoo | DJones: yeah for my laptop unity won't load at all, just takes you to the desktop wallpaper, you can ctrl-alt-f1 to get a new login or ctrl alt t to get a terminal but that's all ;) | 19:38 |
| MooDoo | ah well i'll just update tomorrow, it's no biggy :D | 19:41 |
| DJones | Seems to be a few mentions in +1 for that issue as well | 19:41 |
| MooDoo | ah well | 19:42 |
| MooDoo | it's not really an issue as I can multi boot into *gasp* Windows ;) | 19:43 |
| popey | MooDoo: can you login to a guest session? | 19:44 |
| MooDoo | popey: ooo not tried hang on let me check | 19:44 |
| MooDoo | popey: same result, just takes you to a unity less desktop but you can ctrl alt t to get a terminal | 19:47 |
| popey | MooDoo: what video card? | 19:47 |
| MooDoo | nvidia but i'm not using any drivers so just default driver that comes with it [not sure] | 19:48 |
| popey | as the broken user, does "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" pull in any new packages? | 19:48 |
| zleap | nv or nuvoux or something | 19:48 |
| popey | nouveau | 19:49 |
| zleap | yeah | 19:49 |
| davmor2 | nueveau | 19:49 |
| davmor2 | close | 19:49 |
| diddledan | nouveau - learn french! :-p | 19:49 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: No :P | 19:49 |
| diddledan | roughly translated = modern or new | 19:49 |
| zleap | yeag | 19:50 |
| diddledan | blarg | 19:50 |
| zleap | i did get the beta drivers working though | 19:50 |
| zleap | work fine | 19:50 |
| MooDoo | popey: 0 upgraded, 963 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 19:50 |
| MooDoo | Need to get 466 MB of archives. | 19:50 |
| zleap | ouch | 19:50 |
| diddledan | MooDoo: upgrading to 14.04? | 19:50 |
| popey | MooDoo: yeah, do that | 19:50 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: already am on 14.04 | 19:50 |
| MooDoo | downloading. | 19:51 |
| diddledan | MooDoo: 963 newly installed? what you doing?! | 19:51 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: I just apt-get updated download the latest updates to trusty and it's broken unity | 19:51 |
| diddledan | aah, does the caret (^) on the end of a package tell apt to install the entire dependency tree again? | 19:52 |
| diddledan | if so I'm gonna have to remember that - seems like a great capability | 19:52 |
| diddledan | on gentoo the equivalent is `emerge --empty-tree world` aka `emerge -e world` where world means every package currently installed | 19:53 |
| diddledan | or rather than currently installed but "previously requested to be installed" | 19:53 |
| diddledan | like apt's "manually installed" option vs "automatically installed" to allow for `apt-get autoremove` | 19:54 |
| diddledan | I really should unlearn some of my Gentoo knowledge | 19:55 |
| Monotoko | 7500th September 1993 | 19:58 |
| diddledan | o_O | 19:58 |
| Monotoko | my Ubuntu box at work seems to have subscribed to the idea of eternal september | 19:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Monotoko: lots of noobs on it? | 20:03 |
| MooDoo | popey: no dice, but don't worry about it :) I can wait for updates lol | 20:06 |
| popey | MooDoo: did you reboot? | 20:06 |
| MooDoo | yeah | 20:06 |
| MooDoo | first I pkill'd the user, then rebooted still no unity | 20:07 |
| Monotoko | MartijnVdS, could say that - my co-worker tried to "fix" my graphics driver | 20:07 |
| Monotoko | so it doesn't even POST | 20:07 |
| Monotoko | *now | 20:07 |
| MooDoo | popey last think in dmesg is init: Failed to spawn hybrid-gfx main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory not sure if it's related | 20:08 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: so you have an optimus gfx card? | 20:11 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: no nvidia | 20:11 |
| MooDoo | but i'm looking in this file x-0-greeter.log | 20:11 |
| MooDoo | unity-greeter.vala:581: Got a SIGTERM | 20:12 |
| MooDoo | ** (unity-settings-daemon:1182): WARNING **: Name taken or bus went away - shutting down | 20:12 |
| MooDoo | and hello davmor2 :D | 20:12 |
| MartijnVdS | so it.. missed the bus? :) | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: do lspci | grep VGA | 20:13 |
| MooDoo | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218M [NVS 3100M] (rev a2) | 20:13 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: you wait for an hour for a bus and then three come along at once | 20:15 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: yes, tell that to unity | 20:15 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: /var/log/lightdm x-0-greeter.log - http://pastebin.com/67y3e1sd | 20:16 |
| diddledan | hybrid-gfx suggests it _thinks_ you've got an optimus frankenstein? | 20:17 |
| diddledan | really, what idiot thought that optimus was a good idea? | 20:17 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: it's a prime name if you ask me ;) | 20:18 |
| diddledan | the name is fine, it's the technology that I take issue with | 20:18 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: no that is the name of the switching driver | 20:18 |
| DJones | diddledan: Seems to work fine for me on 14.04, although I've avoided todays updates after previous comments | 20:18 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I know i was jesting, did you see my pastebin? | 20:19 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I did all gibberish to me :) | 20:19 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: did you get any updates at all? | 20:19 |
| diddledan | davmor2: you mean double MartijnVdS (dutch)? | 20:19 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: ubuntu-desktop all up to date, apt-get update ; dist-upgrade all up to date | 20:20 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: lots of people mentioning it in +1 | 20:20 |
| davmor2 | I blame popey | 20:20 |
| MooDoo | lol | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | MooDoo: that log file is only for the login screen | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | have a look in ~/.cache/upstart | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | that's where all the session logs go | 20:23 |
| MooDoo | (unity-panel-service:1877): Gtk-WARNING **: Cannot create custom menu item of type 'unity.widgets.systemsettings.tablet.accesspoint' | 20:24 |
| MooDoo | :) | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | only a warning... | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | how long have you been on +1? | 20:25 |
| MooDoo | ages, all this has happened since I dist-upgraded earlier on | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | there was a bug a while back that caused the unity8 preview to get installed when it shouldn't have been | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | that might possibly be conflicting somehow | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | it even got installed on my xubuntu somehow | 20:26 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: ok thanks, having a play :D | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | i was like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxRX6LXDpWs | 20:27 |
| popey | MooDoo: is unity installed? | 20:54 |
| popey | apt-cache policy unity | 20:54 |
| DJones | MooDoo: Have a look at this thread on the mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-March/037420.html | 20:54 |
| DJones | MooDoo: Last message in the thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-March/037424.html "The problem is in, or associated with, | 20:55 |
| DJones | lightdm, but stopping and restarting it made no difference. Currently, I | 20:55 |
| DJones | have altered the default desktop manager to gdm. This works, but I | 20:55 |
| DJones | really don't like it! | 20:55 |
| DJones | That seems like the same problem | 20:55 |
| dogmatic69_ | bigcalm: you around? | 21:04 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I've just done a dist-upgrade and everything is good here? | 21:11 |
| daubers | Evening | 21:25 |
| zenpho | howdy doo | 21:25 |
| bashrc | is that a dist-upgrade to trusty? | 21:28 |
| daftykins | dist-upgrade doesn't mean going between distros | 21:32 |
| daftykins | it means grabbing *all* the latest packages for a given one | 21:32 |
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| directhex | the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that upgrade will never remove an old package if required by an update to an existing one - let's say you have foo 1.0 which depends on libfoo1, and then an update comes for foo 2.0 which depends on libfoo2 - upgrade will not upgrade you to foo 2.0, but dist-upgrade will | 21:36 |
| zenpho | handy to know | 21:36 |
| zenpho | i've always been very cautious to experiment with apt actions - i'm nervous about getting into a state where things are broken | 21:37 |
| popey | dont use apt then ☻ | 21:39 |
| popey | Software Updater is for you ☻ | 21:39 |
| popey | even though it has a stupid name | 21:39 |
| diddledan | does what it say on the tin | 21:40 |
| popey | still sounds like a bad shareware app from 20 years ago. | 21:40 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: I am here now, sup? | 21:40 |
| diddledan | aah shareware, how I miss thee | 21:40 |
| diddledan | or not | 21:41 |
| directhex | doom was shareware. | 21:41 |
| directhex | let us not mock shareware | 21:41 |
| diddledan | now it's open source | 21:41 |
| popey | i am not mocking shareware | 21:41 |
| zenpho | archive.org has a huge collection of shovelware-shareware now | 21:41 |
| popey | i am mocking software updater and _bad_ shareware | 21:41 |
| diddledan | my favourite shareware used to be getright | 21:41 |
| popey | kde also always makes me think of cover disks from the past | 21:41 |
| popey | oh blimey | 21:42 |
| directhex | i used getright! | 21:42 |
| popey | I'd forgotten getright! | 21:42 |
| zenpho | or was that textfiles.com - i forget... very interesting to browse thru | 21:42 |
| popey | i used that to grab mame roms back in uh...1997 | 21:42 |
| directhex | best way to download half-life patchs when your modem disconnected every 120 minutes | 21:42 |
| popey | maybe? | 21:42 |
| daftykins | i still own getright :D | 21:42 |
| daftykins | got it installed right now in fact | 21:42 |
| diddledan | popey: not so much mame, but I used it around the same era | 21:42 |
| directhex | think i used it to grab beos 5 personal edition too | 21:42 |
| popey | i used to download stuff and put it on zip disks ☻ | 21:42 |
| popey | connected via parallel port | 21:42 |
| daftykins | D: | 21:42 |
| diddledan | zip disks?! wow | 21:42 |
| daftykins | haha | 21:42 |
| zenpho | was "paint shop pro" shareware? | 21:43 |
| daftykins | with the crazy printer passthrough | 21:43 |
| diddledan | I wasn't aware anybody ever used those | 21:43 |
| popey | i had 3! | 21:43 |
| popey | one was onboard ide | 21:43 |
| popey | an external parallel (for taking to work) and a scsi one | 21:43 |
| daftykins | i had a client that backed up to them but the drive died eventually | 21:43 |
| * popey looks for a photo | 21:43 | |
| popey | click-death | 21:43 |
| zenpho | I think I still have a jaz drive - successor to zip drive - used it a lot with my Akai sampler | 21:43 |
| directhex | scsi was best | 21:44 |
| diddledan | I'm trying to remember the name of the competitor to zip | 21:44 |
| directhex | the parallel zip didn't work if you also had a parallel scanner and parallel printer | 21:44 |
| directhex | diddledan, ls120 | 21:44 |
| popey | My first CD burner was a 2x SCSI one | 21:44 |
| popey | sat under my display | 21:44 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:44 |
| diddledan | was more like removable hdd iirc | 21:44 |
| diddledan | rather than tape | 21:44 |
| directhex | iomega had a super cheap scsi card, the zip zoom, for scsi zip drives | 21:44 |
| directhex | zip+zoom was basically plug & play compared to parallel nightmare | 21:45 |
| diddledan | aah, maybe it was syquest | 21:45 |
| daftykins | iomega had jaz zdrives too right? | 21:45 |
| daftykins | *jazz | 21:46 |
| zenpho | i think just one z | 21:46 |
| diddledan | daftykins: yeah, zip and jazz were both iomega things | 21:46 |
| directhex | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Iomega_jaz-2-GB-Laufwerk_01_KMJ.jpg | 21:46 |
| diddledan | and, according to wiki it is only one Z, as zenpho suggests | 21:46 |
| directhex | media was like £100 though | 21:46 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/I9kXAla | 21:47 |
| popey | so much crap tech in that picture from my den | 21:47 |
| daftykins | ah, i did write it with one then put a second in the wrong place | 21:47 |
| popey | old sony laptop, pcmcia network card, old 486 dell | 21:47 |
| popey | and a cat | 21:47 |
| daftykins | the cat is not crap tech :( | 21:47 |
| daftykins | admittedly he or she was only running on 4 paws at the time | 21:47 |
| diddledan | teh kittie is totally cute-tech, no? | 21:47 |
| daftykins | *ba-dum-tish* | 21:48 |
| diddledan | imgur collects the most cruddiest crud of the whole internet according to the "today's best images" list | 21:51 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/R5Ng7ID | 21:51 |
| popey | ☻ | 21:51 |
| zenpho | daftykins: two drums and a cymbal fall down the stairs.... ba-dum-tish ;o) | 21:51 |
| bigcalm | `.` | 21:51 |
| diddledan | zenpho: is that a Tim Vine? | 21:52 |
| bigcalm | popey: is that RMS on the t-shirt? | 21:52 |
| popey | yes | 21:52 |
| zenpho | probably yes - it's terrible but kinda clever - hallmark of Tim Vine | 21:52 |
| daftykins | zenpho: :D | 21:52 |
| bigcalm | popey: and what's happened to your hair?! | 21:52 |
| diddledan | and what are you doing to that poor goat? | 21:53 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/tyemeS6 | 21:53 |
| popey | my pc circa 1999 | 21:53 |
| popey | scsi cd burner... | 21:53 |
| diddledan | it doesn't like me | 21:53 |
| popey | of all the things in that picture, the only thing I still have, and is on my desk right now, is the stapler | 21:53 |
| diddledan | the image is broke :-( | 21:53 |
| daftykins | omg my 1996 pentium 1 dan had those speakers! | 21:53 |
| popey | ☻ | 21:54 |
| daftykins | also, don't you guys find split level desks the spawn of satan? | 21:54 |
| popey | yes | 21:54 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:54 |
| popey | binned that one 10 years ago | 21:54 |
| daftykins | hehe | 21:54 |
| daftykins | and another cat no less! | 21:54 |
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| daftykins | popey: but *gasp* - Windows! | 21:55 |
| diddledan | xfce? | 21:55 |
| diddledan | erm | 21:55 |
| popey | hah | 21:55 |
| diddledan | fvwm | 21:55 |
| popey | yeah | 21:55 |
| popey | i didnt move to linux till well after that | 21:55 |
| diddledan | I new it was an acronym | 21:55 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/qEo8ZST | 21:55 |
| popey | pretty sure that Dan PC has a zip drive | 21:55 |
| popey | above the floppy | 21:56 |
| popey | oh, i still have that bin ☻ | 21:56 |
| diddledan | that looks like a zip on the left of the pc and in the base-unit a cdrom drive which required the cd in a caddy | 21:56 |
| daftykins | cat -> mouse | 21:56 |
| diddledan | plus, two PC under the desk FTW! | 21:57 |
| diddledan | I've got a similar setup right now (2 pc under the desk) | 21:57 |
| daftykins | popey: is that a black US Robotics modem atop the zip? | 21:58 |
| popey | yes | 21:58 |
| daftykins | :O! | 21:58 |
| popey | oh, the zip is in that one too | 21:58 |
| popey | scsi, daisy chained off the cdrom | 21:58 |
| popey | which I had to not breathe near when burning | 21:58 |
| diddledan | I've still got a 56k modem around here somtplace | 21:58 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:58 |
| directhex | giant altec lansing speakers | 21:58 |
| diddledan | s/t/e/ | 21:59 |
| diddledan | popey: are both of those palm pdas? | 21:59 |
| popey | ya | 21:59 |
| popey | Palm 5000 and Palm IIIx | 22:00 |
| popey | used to love them | 22:00 |
| popey | ☹ | 22:00 |
| diddledan | two because: batteries? | 22:00 |
| === martinr is now known as Guest35904 | ||
| diddledan | or was one superceding? | 22:00 |
| popey | yeah | 22:00 |
| popey | i used to use it to read books before ebook readers were cool | 22:01 |
| diddledan | lol | 22:01 |
| popey | i read and re read HHGTTG while rocking sophie to bed | 22:01 |
| popey | which is 4 years after this pic | 22:01 |
| diddledan | there's loads of awesome old tech in that pic | 22:01 |
| diddledan | aah nostalgia | 22:01 |
| daftykins | :) | 22:01 |
| diddledan | netgear switches haven't changed in design... at all. | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i'm really looking forward to setting up this Lenovo X240 for my client | 22:02 |
| daftykins | love my Netgear GS108 \o/ | 22:02 |
| diddledan | I want a T model | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i use more than 8 ports though :( | 22:02 |
| diddledan | smart | 22:02 |
| diddledan | I'm currently using 17 ethernet ports from my router + switches which includes the port on the router to the modem | 22:03 |
| diddledan | so 16 LANny ones | 22:03 |
| daftykins | crikey, that's a fair chunk more than me | 22:04 |
| daftykins | all that for only you or a shared place? :) | 22:04 |
| directhex | i have a gs116 but am not using many ports | 22:04 |
| diddledan | they're not all in the same segment though - I've segregated at least 3 from my lan to separate subnets/vlans | 22:04 |
| daftykins | directhex: they're two 8s joined aren't they? | 22:05 |
| diddledan | all for me :-D | 22:05 |
| daftykins | O_O what are all those devices? D: | 22:05 |
| directhex | daftykins, probably. you know that's why usb hubs are either 4 ports or 7 ports, right? 2x4 ports, with one plugged into the other internally | 22:05 |
| diddledan | no idea :-p | 22:05 |
| daftykins | directhex: i consider USB hubs an abomination | 22:06 |
| === martinr_ is now known as oneking | ||
| diddledan | I've got 1xRPi (onion router), 2xAP (wifi) 3xSwitch (using 3 ports on the router so they can potentially be discounted from the total) then I have 1xNAS PC, 1xXenServer PC, 1xPC I want to do something with but haven't decided what,, 1xRPi NTPd, 1xRPI ???, and 3 which don't seem to be illuminated right now | 22:09 |
| diddledan | not sure what the others are | 22:09 |
| diddledan | aah, 1xOpenReach Fibre-to-the-cab modem | 22:10 |
| diddledan | so I'm unaccounted for 3 connections? | 22:11 |
| diddledan | don't you love when you have no idea what "that ethernet cable" or "that screw" goes to?! | 22:11 |
| diddledan | aah, forgot the most obvious. the 1xMAC that I'm talking to you with | 22:12 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:13 |
| daftykins | pics! | 22:13 |
| diddledan | you'll have to remind me in a while, I've just put my battery on to charge so I can take a photo | 22:23 |
| daftykins | :> | 22:23 |
| diddledan | wait.. google+ auto backup for mac tells me that uploading photos with a maximum dimension of 2048px doesn't use any drive quota - i.e. the uploader says "unlimited storage at 2048px" | 22:27 |
| daftykins | ah-har | 22:28 |
| daftykins | my Nexus 4 just this second started offering me some kinda backup | 22:29 |
| diddledan | lol, I just got notified that an uploaded photo of mine of a christmas tree had an "auto awesome" effect applied that makes the lights twinkle | 22:54 |
| diddledan | on google+ | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | i think i saw that, or one like it | 23:02 |
| Azelphur | Is there anything handy I can get that just puts my phone in my file browser, over wifi? | 23:23 |
| bigcalm | Azelphur: airdroid is good but not in your file browser and it's for Android | 23:27 |
| Azelphur | yea that's what I've been using, it's just a pain to scan the QR code every time, would much rather have it all ready to go in the file browser | 23:27 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if you could set up a samba server on your phone | 23:28 |
| Azelphur | I know you can get ssh, but I imagine it wouldn't handle reconnects well | 23:29 |
| bigcalm | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.sambaserver | 23:30 |
| bigcalm | Just search for samba server | 23:31 |
| bigcalm | Lots out there | 23:31 |
| bigcalm | All appear to need the device rooted | 23:31 |
| Azelphur | fun, I guess that could work, i still don't think nautilus will handle reconnects well | 23:32 |
| bigcalm | Sleep now | 23:33 |
| === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey | ||
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