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magespawngood morning05:36
Kilosmorning all07:41
Kiloshi magespawn 07:41
KilosMaaz, hi07:43
MaazHowzit Kilos07:43
Kiloszit ok07:43
Kiloskonversation didnt wanna connect today07:44
Kilossigh07:44
Kiloshi not_found 08:38
not_foundo/08:38
not_foundhow are you today uncle Kilos... still watching bots?08:39
Kilosthe version dlink i have was designed for win8 so the modeswitch info is changed08:39
Kiloshehe08:39
Kilosi think with the freenode peeps watching them we are safe08:40
Kilosi just had to ban a couple on my channels08:40
not_foundstrange happenings08:43
Kilosanyway now i wanna try downgrade the dlinks firmware to version 6 then maybe nm will see it08:45
Kilosjust means slumming for a while again08:48
charlgood morning09:29
charlMaaz: coffee on09:29
* Maaz washes some mugs09:29
charlhi not_found 09:29
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:33
magespawnhi Kilos 09:54
Kilosall good?09:54
magespawnyup and you?09:55
Kilosyes ty09:55
Kilosapart from dlink of course09:55
Kilosits working with sakis3g but thats not good enoung09:55
magespawnnot sure if it is releated but y xchat also would not connect straight away. maybe freenode problems?09:56
Kilosoh mine are both working now09:56
Kilosactually looked like id been blocked09:56
Kilosshowed connected to server the disconnected over and over09:57
magespawnstrange09:57
Kilosnot_found info please09:57
Kilosyou say you delete .conf before reinstalling09:58
Kilosi dont want to format /home there is too much on it09:58
magespawnKilos: are you trying to get your dlink connected/10:00
magespawn?10:00
not_found?10:01
Kilosi have it connected with sakis magespawn 10:01
Kilosbut i need it to work in nm10:01
Kilosotherwise evo and mxit dont work10:01
magespawnand nm does not see/manage it correctly?10:02
Kilosthe v7 is made for win8 and we dont have modeswitch available for it yet10:02
Kilosnm doesnt even see its there10:02
Kilosive google a months data away and tried all the fixes10:03
Kilosi even downloaded the v6 firmware but it wont let it in10:03
Kilosi would like to format that cdfs thing and then put older firmware on but dunno how10:04
magespawnthe older firmware might not work10:06
magespawnthere might be a way to make evo mixit see the connection though10:07
Kilosif i can do that then its fine10:08
psydroidhello magespawn 10:08
psydroidhi Kilos 10:08
Kilosbut ive never had them working with sakis3g connected10:08
Kiloshi psydroid 10:08
magespawnhi psydroid 10:09
Kilosi registered with that draisbergerhof modeswitch place but no activation email since last night10:09
Kilosthen i can work with the modeswitch peeps to sort it and they will then have the info to upgrade modeswitch so these modems work10:11
Kilosim sure im not the only buntu user who bought one10:11
Kilosim just the only one who knows how to get here and cry10:11
inetproKilos: ai!10:18
inetprogood mornings10:19
Kilosya inetpro groot ai!10:19
inetproKilos: lsusb10:19
inetprowhat do you get?10:19
Kilosi have done it 50 times10:19
inetprowhat do you get?10:19
Kilosmy latest finding is that it was designed for win 8 and modeswitch hasnt got there yet10:20
Kilos2000:7d0110:20
inetprono10:20
inetprohmm... ok10:20
Kiloshttp://lawrencematthew.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/connecting-ubuntu-12-04-2-to-internet-using-d-link-dwm-156-3g3-75g-usb-modem/10:21
Kilosive tried everything there10:21
Kilosat the bottom there is a guy who has it working but not here with his methods10:21
inetprothat one is different10:22
Kilosnow i have all the dlink stuff all over and want to get rid of it10:22
Kilosin /etc and /usr/bin and so on10:22
Kilosits all over the place10:23
inetprosee http://blogger.ziesemer.com/2008/10/alltel-um175al-usb-evdo-ubuntu.html10:23
Kiloso10:23
Kilosso10:23
Kiloswas wanting to reinstall 12.04 without all that info everywhere but not delete my /home10:23
Kilosnot format that is10:24
inetproyou need a USB sniffer to see what windows does with it10:24
inetproso I take back my "no"10:24
Kilosit works great in windows10:24
Kilosinstalls and connects no prob10:24
inetprothe usbmodeswitch forum guys might be able to help you10:25
inetprobut with a usb sniffer you can figure it out yourself10:25
magespawnusb sniffer?10:25
Kilosim still waiting for their activation email10:25
inetproyou just need the MessageEndpoint and the MessageContent values10:26
Kilosremember the endpoint error10:26
Kilosbut running dpkg -i sorted that i think10:26
Kilosnow i can even find the package to dpkg -r it10:27
Kiloscant10:27
inetprowhere is the .deb ?10:28
magespawninetpro would the linux usb sniffer pick up the info if the deviceis expecting windows?10:28
inetpromagespawn: no10:28
Kilosi have it on desktop and /home and /home/miles10:29
inetproso just go to the folder on the cli10:30
inetproand issue the command from there with the .deb file as the last parameter10:30
inetproeg: dpkg -r something.deb10:30
Kilosit keeps telling me not found or you must use the package you installed from10:30
Kilosand i dunno whaere that is anymore10:30
Kiloswhere10:30
inetproor type the full path10:31
inetproeg: dpkg -r /full/path/to/something.deb10:31
inetprooh and with sudo in front10:31
Kilosmuch easier to reinstall 12.04 if i can just remove the old config10:31
Kilosya with sudi10:31
inetproair10:31
inetproai!10:31
Kilosenen with sudo -i10:31
Kiloseven10:31
* inetpro needs to go10:32
* inetpro be back laters10:32
Kilosi dont know where the one is i installed from ive tried all i can find10:32
Kilosgo safe10:32
Kilosmodeswitch activation mail was in spambox10:42
Kilosgmail really starting to suck10:43
inetproKilos: gmail learns from you11:50
Kilosno man it must learn from clever peeps11:51
Kilosi have the modem connected with nm11:51
Kilossighs11:51
inetproand how did you do that?11:51
Kiloswas trying to get it to connect with sakis3g and it kept sayin modemmanager and pppd were busy with it11:52
Kilosso i chose only switch modem11:52
Kilosnext thing nm was online11:52
inetprohmm11:52
* Kilos pulling hair out11:53
inetprorelying on luck won't get you very far11:53
Kilosya but i amd registered with the modeswitch forem but battling to find out how to post there11:54
Kilosthis is maddening11:55
inetproyou should keep poking those Telkom guys and let them do the right thing 11:55
Kilosi have tried wvdial and gnome-ppp as well11:55
Kilosya thats an idea ill get back to them in email again now that i can use evo11:56
inetproTelkom should get someone to communicate with the modeswitch forum guys11:56
inetprodon't even mention evo or that other thing11:57
inetprothat should be completely unrelated11:57
Kiloseish they wont go through all the trouble of getting registered there11:57
inetproa connection is a connection is a connection11:57
Kilos<inetpro> don't even mention evo or that other thing???11:58
inetpro14/03 20:37:53 <Kilos> i could use it as is with sakis but them mxit and evo cant connect11:58
Kilosaha11:59
inetprothat just aint making any sense 11:59
Kiloswhat?11:59
inetproif internet works then evo or mxit should work12:00
Kilosdont you member even with 10.04 and sakis3g evo and mxit didnt connect12:01
inetprono and I'm not interested12:01
Kilosgrrrr12:01
inetproboth should just die12:02
Kilosbut pidgin xmpp works12:02
inetprolike bbm12:02
inetproand ftp12:02
Kilosyou gotta be interested in what im battling with man12:02
inetproai!12:02
Kilosor ill send the rain man there in full force12:03
inetprolol12:03
Kilosyou see me on jabber?12:04
inetprowhat is that?12:04
Kilosmodeswitch forem uses jabber and icq and some other stuffs12:04
Kiloslook on your fone man12:04
Kilosai! ek sukkel darem12:05
inetproyou mean on gtalk?12:05
Kilosya but from jabber not gmail12:05
inetprohmm... since when?12:05
Kilosi got jabber before anything else then forgot about it with the gtalk stuffs12:06
Kiloshad to dig in old notes12:06
* inetpro thought federation between gtalk and jabber was broken12:08
inetproanyway, I can see you yes12:10
Kilosi think a year back or so they improved jabber12:13
Kilosthe dlink stops my pc from mounting usb sticks too12:27
Kilossigh12:27
Kiloswb not_found 12:32
not_foundty12:32
not_found*yawn*12:32
charldid gtalk disable xmpp federation yet?12:43
charlthey were going to merge that into g+ hangouts i thought, i haven't been following it12:43
Kilos?12:43
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s2PWDTI6GI12:44
charlhi Kilos 12:44
Kilosdoes any of that mean something12:44
not_foundnot yet12:44
Kiloshi charl 12:44
charlnot_found: ah12:44
not_foundyou are still able to set it up on 3rd party apps like pidgin etc.12:44
charli used to use google apps on my own domain but fortunately i stopped with that years ago and now run my own services12:44
charlpostfix + mutt for mail, prosody + bitlbee for xmpp12:45
charli configured my dns and xmpp federation worked perfectly under google apps though12:45
Trixar_za<3 prosody12:54
charlTrixar_za: yes i am extremely impressed with it, especially the security features and easy configurability12:57
Trixar_zaAnd it's easy enough to modify using Lua12:58
charli don't really know lua myself12:59
charlhave you made any modifications?13:00
Trixar_zaIt's surprisingly easy to pick up. All I really did was mess around with some of the protocol to see if I can do something similar to what Mxit did13:01
charlwhat did mxit do?13:01
Trixar_zaSimplified the XML it used to sent messages, so it used less data. Over the long run this save quite a lot of data.13:01
charlinteresting13:02
Trixar_zasaved*13:02
charlif you want to do something compact i wouldn't have bothered with xml in the first place13:02
charli would rather just use json13:02
charlhttp://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0295.html13:03
Trixar_zaTrue and I believe XMPP has a way to sent compressed data anyway13:03
charli haven't looked at this in detail but this looks interesting: https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/13:03
charlif you use encryption, that could have a side effect of compression regardless13:04
charlbut i would not bother too much with it, it seems like these days most people have some type of data bundle in any case13:04
Kilossjoe only just managed to post on modeswitch forums15:04
Kiloswhat a job to set it all up15:04
Kiloscouldnt submit the post because i didnt have a recipient15:05
charlKilos: sounds like a bad forum ... :(15:07
Kilosno its me thats stupid i think15:07
Kilosyou peeps that know these kinda things will glide through it15:08
charli hate signing up for anything15:08
charlusually when i am required to sign up i just don't bother posting anything15:08
charlbut if you really want something.... 15:08
Kilosthis modeswitch thing is important so i dont mind15:08
Kiloshope they mail me15:08
charlhave you seen kali linux? http://www.kali.org/15:09
charllooks really good15:09
Kilosno man im a buntu pep15:13
Kilospeep15:13
Kilosno data to mess around15:13
Kilosi dont like black screens15:13
charlafaik it's based off ubuntu15:14
charlor debian perhaops15:14
charl*perhaps15:15
charllooks really promising, i should try it some time15:15
Kiloshmm...15:54
Kiloshi superfly 16:54
KilosMaaz seen superfly 16:55
MaazKilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 10 hours, 9 minutes and 23 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-13 23:46:04 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-03-08 01:02:40 PST16:55
Kiloshahaha16:55
Kilosif you dont say anything he thinks you are away16:56
KilosMaaz you gotta count lurking16:56
MaazKilos: Excuse me?16:56
Kilosinetpro looks like that 2001:7d01 shows its already switched17:01
Kiloshmm...17:11
Kiloshi nlsthzn sharks/bulls next saterday17:22
nlsthznoh dear... guess the sharks loose there first game then ;p17:22
Kilosrofl17:23
Kiloswishful thinking17:23
nlsthznI know :p17:24
Kilosthey hot this year17:24
Kilos:-D17:24
nlsthznyup17:25
charlwhow i am listening to security now again - another brilliant episode18:16
charlapple actually really got their security together to a T18:16
Trixar_zaAtleast they take it way more seriously than Microsoft18:19
Trixar_za:P18:19
charli am actually quite impressed, i didn't expect it from apple either18:20
charli think pretty much everybody got it better together than microshaft18:20
Trixar_zaYesterday I had an interesting reaction. Also to do somewhat with security, but not really.18:33
Trixar_zaI actually got mad that I couldn't use my system like I wanted on a Linux distro18:33
Trixar_za:P18:33
charl???18:34
Trixar_zaThe udisk security feature where I have to enter my root password to access an ntfs drive18:34
Trixar_zaAnd it was in read only mode18:35
charlsorry but i'm not sure i'm following ...18:35
Trixar_zaIt doesn't allow you to mount an ntfs drive/partition without requiring the root password18:49
Trixar_zaFrom the file manager that is18:49
Trixar_zaand after you have it mounted, you can only access the files. You can't modify or delete them.18:50
charloh ok now i get what you're getting at18:50
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:37
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