[05:36] <magespawn> good morning
[07:41] <Kilos> morning all
[07:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:43] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[07:43] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[07:43] <Kilos> zit ok
[07:44] <Kilos> konversation didnt wanna connect today
[07:44] <Kilos> sigh
[08:38] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[08:38] <not_found> o/
[08:39] <not_found> how are you today uncle Kilos... still watching bots?
[08:39] <Kilos> the version dlink i have was designed for win8 so the modeswitch info is changed
[08:39] <Kilos> hehe
[08:40] <Kilos> i think with the freenode peeps watching them we are safe
[08:40] <Kilos> i just had to ban a couple on my channels
[08:43] <not_found> strange happenings
[08:45] <Kilos> anyway now i wanna try downgrade the dlinks firmware to version 6 then maybe nm will see it
[08:48] <Kilos> just means slumming for a while again
[09:29] <charl> good morning
[09:29] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:29]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:29] <charl> hi not_found 
[09:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:54] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[09:54] <Kilos> all good?
[09:55] <magespawn> yup and you?
[09:55] <Kilos> yes ty
[09:55] <Kilos> apart from dlink of course
[09:55] <Kilos> its working with sakis3g but thats not good enoung
[09:56] <magespawn> not sure if it is releated but y xchat also would not connect straight away. maybe freenode problems?
[09:56] <Kilos> oh mine are both working now
[09:56] <Kilos> actually looked like id been blocked
[09:57] <Kilos> showed connected to server the disconnected over and over
[09:57] <magespawn> strange
[09:57] <Kilos> not_found info please
[09:58] <Kilos> you say you delete .conf before reinstalling
[09:58] <Kilos> i dont want to format /home there is too much on it
[10:00] <magespawn> Kilos: are you trying to get your dlink connected/
[10:00] <magespawn> ?
[10:01] <not_found> ?
[10:01] <Kilos> i have it connected with sakis magespawn 
[10:01] <Kilos> but i need it to work in nm
[10:01] <Kilos> otherwise evo and mxit dont work
[10:02] <magespawn> and nm does not see/manage it correctly?
[10:02] <Kilos> the v7 is made for win8 and we dont have modeswitch available for it yet
[10:02] <Kilos> nm doesnt even see its there
[10:03] <Kilos> ive google a months data away and tried all the fixes
[10:03] <Kilos> i even downloaded the v6 firmware but it wont let it in
[10:04] <Kilos> i would like to format that cdfs thing and then put older firmware on but dunno how
[10:06] <magespawn> the older firmware might not work
[10:07] <magespawn> there might be a way to make evo mixit see the connection though
[10:08] <Kilos> if i can do that then its fine
[10:08] <psydroid> hello magespawn 
[10:08] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[10:08] <Kilos> but ive never had them working with sakis3g connected
[10:08] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[10:09] <magespawn> hi psydroid 
[10:09] <Kilos> i registered with that draisbergerhof modeswitch place but no activation email since last night
[10:11] <Kilos> then i can work with the modeswitch peeps to sort it and they will then have the info to upgrade modeswitch so these modems work
[10:11] <Kilos> im sure im not the only buntu user who bought one
[10:11] <Kilos> im just the only one who knows how to get here and cry
[10:18] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[10:19] <inetpro> good mornings
[10:19] <Kilos> ya inetpro groot ai!
[10:19] <inetpro> Kilos: lsusb
[10:19] <inetpro> what do you get?
[10:19] <Kilos> i have done it 50 times
[10:19] <inetpro> what do you get?
[10:20] <Kilos> my latest finding is that it was designed for win 8 and modeswitch hasnt got there yet
[10:20] <Kilos> 2000:7d01
[10:20] <inetpro> no
[10:20] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[10:21] <Kilos> http://lawrencematthew.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/connecting-ubuntu-12-04-2-to-internet-using-d-link-dwm-156-3g3-75g-usb-modem/
[10:21] <Kilos> ive tried everything there
[10:21] <Kilos> at the bottom there is a guy who has it working but not here with his methods
[10:22] <inetpro> that one is different
[10:22] <Kilos> now i have all the dlink stuff all over and want to get rid of it
[10:22] <Kilos> in /etc and /usr/bin and so on
[10:23] <Kilos> its all over the place
[10:23] <inetpro> see http://blogger.ziesemer.com/2008/10/alltel-um175al-usb-evdo-ubuntu.html
[10:23] <Kilos> o
[10:23] <Kilos> so
[10:23] <Kilos> was wanting to reinstall 12.04 without all that info everywhere but not delete my /home
[10:24] <Kilos> not format that is
[10:24] <inetpro> you need a USB sniffer to see what windows does with it
[10:24] <inetpro> so I take back my "no"
[10:24] <Kilos> it works great in windows
[10:24] <Kilos> installs and connects no prob
[10:25] <inetpro> the usbmodeswitch forum guys might be able to help you
[10:25] <inetpro> but with a usb sniffer you can figure it out yourself
[10:25] <magespawn> usb sniffer?
[10:25] <Kilos> im still waiting for their activation email
[10:26] <inetpro> you just need the MessageEndpoint and the MessageContent values
[10:26] <Kilos> remember the endpoint error
[10:26] <Kilos> but running dpkg -i sorted that i think
[10:27] <Kilos> now i can even find the package to dpkg -r it
[10:27] <Kilos> cant
[10:28] <inetpro> where is the .deb ?
[10:28] <magespawn> inetpro would the linux usb sniffer pick up the info if the deviceis expecting windows?
[10:28] <inetpro> magespawn: no
[10:29] <Kilos> i have it on desktop and /home and /home/miles
[10:30] <inetpro> so just go to the folder on the cli
[10:30] <inetpro> and issue the command from there with the .deb file as the last parameter
[10:30] <inetpro> eg: dpkg -r something.deb
[10:30] <Kilos> it keeps telling me not found or you must use the package you installed from
[10:30] <Kilos> and i dunno whaere that is anymore
[10:30] <Kilos> where
[10:31] <inetpro> or type the full path
[10:31] <inetpro> eg: dpkg -r /full/path/to/something.deb
[10:31] <inetpro> oh and with sudo in front
[10:31] <Kilos> much easier to reinstall 12.04 if i can just remove the old config
[10:31] <Kilos> ya with sudi
[10:31] <inetpro> air
[10:31] <inetpro> ai!
[10:31] <Kilos> enen with sudo -i
[10:31] <Kilos> even
[10:32]  * inetpro needs to go
[10:32]  * inetpro be back laters
[10:32] <Kilos> i dont know where the one is i installed from ive tried all i can find
[10:32] <Kilos> go safe
[10:42] <Kilos> modeswitch activation mail was in spambox
[10:43] <Kilos> gmail really starting to suck
[11:50] <inetpro> Kilos: gmail learns from you
[11:51] <Kilos> no man it must learn from clever peeps
[11:51] <Kilos> i have the modem connected with nm
[11:51] <Kilos> sighs
[11:51] <inetpro> and how did you do that?
[11:52] <Kilos> was trying to get it to connect with sakis3g and it kept sayin modemmanager and pppd were busy with it
[11:52] <Kilos> so i chose only switch modem
[11:52] <Kilos> next thing nm was online
[11:52] <inetpro> hmm
[11:53]  * Kilos pulling hair out
[11:53] <inetpro> relying on luck won't get you very far
[11:54] <Kilos> ya but i amd registered with the modeswitch forem but battling to find out how to post there
[11:55] <Kilos> this is maddening
[11:55] <inetpro> you should keep poking those Telkom guys and let them do the right thing 
[11:55] <Kilos> i have tried wvdial and gnome-ppp as well
[11:56] <Kilos> ya thats an idea ill get back to them in email again now that i can use evo
[11:56] <inetpro> Telkom should get someone to communicate with the modeswitch forum guys
[11:57] <inetpro> don't even mention evo or that other thing
[11:57] <inetpro> that should be completely unrelated
[11:57] <Kilos> eish they wont go through all the trouble of getting registered there
[11:57] <inetpro> a connection is a connection is a connection
 don't even mention evo or that other thing???
[11:58] <inetpro> 14/03 20:37:53 <Kilos> i could use it as is with sakis but them mxit and evo cant connect
[11:59] <Kilos> aha
[11:59] <inetpro> that just aint making any sense 
[11:59] <Kilos> what?
[12:00] <inetpro> if internet works then evo or mxit should work
[12:01] <Kilos> dont you member even with 10.04 and sakis3g evo and mxit didnt connect
[12:01] <inetpro> no and I'm not interested
[12:01] <Kilos> grrrr
[12:02] <inetpro> both should just die
[12:02] <Kilos> but pidgin xmpp works
[12:02] <inetpro> like bbm
[12:02] <inetpro> and ftp
[12:02] <Kilos> you gotta be interested in what im battling with man
[12:02] <inetpro> ai!
[12:03] <Kilos> or ill send the rain man there in full force
[12:03] <inetpro> lol
[12:04] <Kilos> you see me on jabber?
[12:04] <inetpro> what is that?
[12:04] <Kilos> modeswitch forem uses jabber and icq and some other stuffs
[12:04] <Kilos> look on your fone man
[12:05] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel darem
[12:05] <inetpro> you mean on gtalk?
[12:05] <Kilos> ya but from jabber not gmail
[12:05] <inetpro> hmm... since when?
[12:06] <Kilos> i got jabber before anything else then forgot about it with the gtalk stuffs
[12:06] <Kilos> had to dig in old notes
[12:08]  * inetpro thought federation between gtalk and jabber was broken
[12:10] <inetpro> anyway, I can see you yes
[12:13] <Kilos> i think a year back or so they improved jabber
[12:27] <Kilos> the dlink stops my pc from mounting usb sticks too
[12:27] <Kilos> sigh
[12:32] <Kilos> wb not_found 
[12:32] <not_found> ty
[12:32] <not_found> *yawn*
[12:43] <charl> did gtalk disable xmpp federation yet?
[12:43] <charl> they were going to merge that into g+ hangouts i thought, i haven't been following it
[12:43] <Kilos> ?
[12:44] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2PWDTI6GI
[12:44] <charl> hi Kilos 
[12:44] <Kilos> does any of that mean something
[12:44] <not_found> not yet
[12:44] <Kilos> hi charl 
[12:44] <charl> not_found: ah
[12:44] <not_found> you are still able to set it up on 3rd party apps like pidgin etc.
[12:44] <charl> i used to use google apps on my own domain but fortunately i stopped with that years ago and now run my own services
[12:45] <charl> postfix + mutt for mail, prosody + bitlbee for xmpp
[12:45] <charl> i configured my dns and xmpp federation worked perfectly under google apps though
[12:54] <Trixar_za> <3 prosody
[12:57] <charl> Trixar_za: yes i am extremely impressed with it, especially the security features and easy configurability
[12:58] <Trixar_za> And it's easy enough to modify using Lua
[12:59] <charl> i don't really know lua myself
[13:00] <charl> have you made any modifications?
[13:01] <Trixar_za> It's surprisingly easy to pick up. All I really did was mess around with some of the protocol to see if I can do something similar to what Mxit did
[13:01] <charl> what did mxit do?
[13:01] <Trixar_za> Simplified the XML it used to sent messages, so it used less data. Over the long run this save quite a lot of data.
[13:02] <charl> interesting
[13:02] <Trixar_za> saved*
[13:02] <charl> if you want to do something compact i wouldn't have bothered with xml in the first place
[13:02] <charl> i would rather just use json
[13:03] <charl> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0295.html
[13:03] <Trixar_za> True and I believe XMPP has a way to sent compressed data anyway
[13:03] <charl> i haven't looked at this in detail but this looks interesting: https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/
[13:04] <charl> if you use encryption, that could have a side effect of compression regardless
[13:04] <charl> but i would not bother too much with it, it seems like these days most people have some type of data bundle in any case
[15:04] <Kilos> sjoe only just managed to post on modeswitch forums
[15:04] <Kilos> what a job to set it all up
[15:05] <Kilos> couldnt submit the post because i didnt have a recipient
[15:07] <charl> Kilos: sounds like a bad forum ... :(
[15:07] <Kilos> no its me thats stupid i think
[15:08] <Kilos> you peeps that know these kinda things will glide through it
[15:08] <charl> i hate signing up for anything
[15:08] <charl> usually when i am required to sign up i just don't bother posting anything
[15:08] <charl> but if you really want something.... 
[15:08] <Kilos> this modeswitch thing is important so i dont mind
[15:08] <Kilos> hope they mail me
[15:09] <charl> have you seen kali linux? http://www.kali.org/
[15:09] <charl> looks really good
[15:13] <Kilos> no man im a buntu pep
[15:13] <Kilos> peep
[15:13] <Kilos> no data to mess around
[15:13] <Kilos> i dont like black screens
[15:14] <charl> afaik it's based off ubuntu
[15:14] <charl> or debian perhaops
[15:15] <charl> *perhaps
[15:15] <charl> looks really promising, i should try it some time
[15:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:54] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[16:55] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly 
[16:55] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 10 hours, 9 minutes and 23 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-13 23:46:04 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-03-08 01:02:40 PST
[16:55] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:56] <Kilos> if you dont say anything he thinks you are away
[16:56] <Kilos> Maaz you gotta count lurking
[16:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[17:01] <Kilos> inetpro looks like that 2001:7d01 shows its already switched
[17:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:22] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn sharks/bulls next saterday
[17:22] <nlsthzn> oh dear... guess the sharks loose there first game then ;p
[17:23] <Kilos> rofl
[17:23] <Kilos> wishful thinking
[17:24] <nlsthzn> I know :p
[17:24] <Kilos> they hot this year
[17:24] <Kilos> :-D
[17:25] <nlsthzn> yup
[18:16] <charl> whow i am listening to security now again - another brilliant episode
[18:16] <charl> apple actually really got their security together to a T
[18:19] <Trixar_za> Atleast they take it way more seriously than Microsoft
[18:19] <Trixar_za> :P
[18:20] <charl> i am actually quite impressed, i didn't expect it from apple either
[18:20] <charl> i think pretty much everybody got it better together than microshaft
[18:33] <Trixar_za> Yesterday I had an interesting reaction. Also to do somewhat with security, but not really.
[18:33] <Trixar_za> I actually got mad that I couldn't use my system like I wanted on a Linux distro
[18:33] <Trixar_za> :P
[18:34] <charl> ???
[18:34] <Trixar_za> The udisk security feature where I have to enter my root password to access an ntfs drive
[18:35] <Trixar_za> And it was in read only mode
[18:35] <charl> sorry but i'm not sure i'm following ...
[18:49] <Trixar_za> It doesn't allow you to mount an ntfs drive/partition without requiring the root password
[18:49] <Trixar_za> From the file manager that is
[18:50] <Trixar_za> and after you have it mounted, you can only access the files. You can't modify or delete them.
[18:50] <charl> oh ok now i get what you're getting at
[19:37] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight