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EndymionMThat'd be defined as "The Plan", yep.18:12
gmachine_24what does this mean Mode #ubuntu +o IdleOne by ChanServ18:12
ActionParsnipj0lz: of plex. Another great solution.18:12
j0lzgmachine_24, a bit of both I am looking at something like this except it was a web gui for making playlists and that type of thing http://www.opensourcecms.com/scripts/details.php?scriptid=322&name=Podcast%20Generator18:12
ActionParsnipgmachine_24: means that idleone put his op hat on and is about to lay the smack down18:12
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gmachine_24ActionParsnip: thank you. :-)18:13
IdleOneactually, I invited the log bot back in18:13
gmachine_24j0lz: you want to make a podcast?18:14
EndymionMWho doesn't want to make a podcast?18:14
j0lzActionParsnip, yes I like the look of plex18:14
gmachine_24EndymionM: :-) me.18:15
j0lzyes i have been thinking about it gmachine_2418:15
EndymionMgmachine_24: Then there's probably something wrong with you.  Get inspired and have a message to share with the world.18:15
nikolamEndymionM, I better like isolating such old apps completely. (if I understood right, that is x86 DOS application). I would run it inside Virtualbox and treat it as separate machine if possible.18:15
buchmanne aí?18:16
gmachine_24j0lz: at home I used slim server for years until it was acquired by logitech and became logitech media server - because I have a nice-sounding logitech player I still use it18:16
gmachine_24EndymionM: oh there's no doubt something is wrong with me. :-)18:16
nikolamOr run Dosbox with underprivileged account18:16
gmachine_24j0lz: I also use MediaTomb - which is kind of cumbersome depending on what you're trying to stream to18:17
gmachine_24but not for music - for video18:18
j0lzgmachine_24, I remember the logitech media center it was really nice interface18:18
gmachine_24j0lz: yes, they inherited that from slim server18:19
EndymionMnikolam: That makes it a pain the rear to maintain save files.18:19
thoonaillutz: thanks gtg18:20
raj__how to check in bash script if first char of string is '/' & modify it to 'xx'?18:20
daftykins#bash18:21
gmachine_24j0lz: have been playing with the idea of using musicip with the logitech software to create playlists ... but I've never been a big fan of playlists.... so it just kind of sits there18:22
j0lzgmachine_24, I spend more time wading through the music I have to find and play than I am comfortable with18:24
Guye_AlvarezHow can i install Jdownloader in Ubuntu 14.04?18:25
cfhowlett!trusty|Guye_Alvarez, ask the other channel18:25
gmachine_24j0lz: yeah, and it only gets worse as you add more music . . .18:25
ubottuGuye_Alvarez, ask the other channel: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+118:25
gmachine_24j0lz: which is one reason I'm interested in musicip18:26
nikolamEndymionM, not if you do zfs send or btrfs send of whole Virtualbox volumes. Then you copy changed blocks on volume, not files. You mount volume on other side and read data as you like. Virtualbox can also use iscsi-exported volumes.18:27
ubuntuedHi guys, I have a weird thing where my Thunderbird (no other windows) window is maximised, won't show the titlebar, can only quit with Ctrl-Q. Alt-Space > resize allows the little grabby triangle in the bottom right corner but it doesn't do anything. Ideas?18:28
shovel_boss<shovel_boss> and when grub boots18:28
shovel_boss<shovel_boss> it will boot linux18:28
shovel_boss<shovel_boss> can i make it boot windows?18:28
shovel_boss<shovel_boss> the 3 second timer thingy18:28
problem123I have a computer (with Lubuntu 13.10) that doesn18:28
problem123't want to boot18:28
OerHeksubuntued hit F11 to get out of full screen18:29
gmachine_24shovel_boss: I assume you mean boot windows as the option without having to choose windows....... right?18:29
shovel_bossyes18:29
problem123I changed quiet splash to text, and I keep seeing cannot allocate memory18:29
j0lzgmachine_24, i might try it out too18:29
ubuntuedthat is a great idea!18:29
shovel_bossis it easy to do gmachine_24 ?18:30
problem123I'm getting this: "unable to get pwuid: cannot allocate memory"18:30
gmachine_24shovel_boss: perhaps this http://askubuntu.com/questions/52963/how-do-i-set-windows-to-boot-as-the-default-in-the-boot-loader18:30
shovel_bossthanks18:30
ubuntuedneg, it toggles the today bar thing on the right-hand side18:30
ajoulwould it be possible to fetch work from stratum instead of bitcoind would that be considered sub-pooling?18:30
simonela grande bellezza18:31
problem123Can anyone here help with my boot problem?18:31
ajoulwould it be possible to fetch work from stratum instead of bitcoind would that be considered sub-pooling?18:31
problem123BTW, it worked yesterday.18:32
utf-8i think that it was an italian chat18:32
daftykinsajoul: this is not a channel for mining help18:33
daftykins!anyone | problem12318:34
ubottuproblem123: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:34
EndymionMdaftykins: Really?  So you wouldn't be able to tell me how I can refine redstone ore? :-P18:34
daftykinsEndymionM: you're not familiar with bitcoin mining i take it18:35
problem123daftykins, I'm trying to boot, but I get 'cannot allocate memory' errors (I'm using text boot)18:35
cfhowlettEndymionM, wrong channel.  a little respect for the rules goes a long way here.18:35
daftykinsproblem123: perhaps your installation medium is not good18:35
problem123It worked for two weeks until now18:36
daftykinstake a picture if you can18:36
EndymionMcfhowlett: I do wish to point out that I was kidding.  And I have been asking questions about Ubuntu... because, yeah long-time Windows user.18:36
cfhowlettEndymionM, hmm.  noted.18:37
daftykinsEndymionM: for future reference nazis will descend upon you if you speak of anything off topic18:37
cowboyupprideI thought it was ninjas?18:38
problem123Can I fix the installation from a live DVD *without* overwriting it?18:38
daftykinsproblem123: well we don't know what's wrong yet 'cause you haven't provided any logs/errors18:38
daftykinsbut most likely!18:38
EndymionMdaftykins: Duly noted.  So I need to find a version of zDoom with the Wolf3dTC.18:38
problem123daftykins, It might take me a few minutes, let me get the live DVD (since i cant boot)18:39
daftykinsproblem123: i'd be willing to bet you've upgraded kernel, hold left shift at bootup and boot an older one to test18:39
problem123daftykins, I already got the live DVD, but i'll reboot and try that.18:41
problem123by holding shift, am I supposed to get the grub menu? I already have it, and I've tried advanced options.18:43
problem123it did the same thing18:43
problem123so I'll try to find a log file from the live dvd18:43
raj__how do I hook a script to be executed whenever 'nano' command is used.. ?18:43
problem123daftykins, once I've got my linux partition mounted, what logfile should I look for?18:44
TheNH813HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! I broke Glibc and Glibc6.18:47
TheNH813I have no idea what I did, all i ran was apt-get upgrade18:48
bekksTheNH813: That wont break glibc.18:48
bekksTheNH813: So what did you do before?18:48
problem123daftykins, I've mounted it, and I'm in /var/log - which one do you need to see?18:48
TheNH813I was updating Glibc and it failed while replacing it.18:48
TheNH813bekks: Now it kernel panics trying to find libc6 on boot.18:49
bekksTheNH813: Do you remember the error message when it failed to replace?18:49
TheNH813Yes, failed to replace file <something.so>18:50
daftykinsproblem123: so you tried older kernels and got no different result huh?18:50
TheNH813bekks: Should I just reinstall? I broke like 36 other libraries too.18:50
problem123no - assuming that's what those version numbers in advanced options were18:50
bekksTheNH813: Thats the easy way, yes.18:50
TheNH813bekks: Before I rebooted thinking it was a glitch sudo itself segfaults because of the missing file.18:51
daftykinsproblem123: they were, you would've ignored the newest version and booted the one before it, then keep going back in the list seeing whether it errors each time or just on the newest one18:51
problem123daftykins, I tried all three of them, but only the first one with text. Let me run the other two with text and see if I get the same errors.18:52
TheNH813bekks: I know pretty much about Linux, and never expected this to happen. Is there any way to find the list of installed software? I was going to be remastering and had installed countless things.18:52
problem123When I run them without text, I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor.18:52
bekksTheNH813: for getting that list you would have to repair your system :)18:53
problem123daftykins, nope - I get the same errors in the older versions18:54
problem123let me try recovery mode18:55
daftykinsproblem123: is this a laptop?18:55
TheNH813bekks: Just checked the sources from this LivdCD, I see, I used the wrong repository. I had replaced some lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and forced installed incompatable versions of like 1260 libraries. Definitely reinstalling, it would be hell to try fixing all of that.18:55
monsunewould you happen to know if 100mbit cisco firewall makes any sense? i mean can it protect the machine behind it against ddos attack that is stronger than 100mbit? or 100mbit means that anything over 100mbit would exhaust the fw and make the server unresponsive?18:55
TheNH813bekks: Thanks for helping.18:56
problem123daftykins, no, it's a desktop. The only thing different today than yesterday is that it's been moved (physically).18:56
daftykinsmonsune: that has nothing to do with Ubuntu - try ##networking18:56
monsuneok thank you daftykins.. just wasn't sure where to ask about that18:56
daftykinsfunnily enough Cisco firewalls != Linux distributions - so that was clue #1 ;)18:56
problem123perhaps, since it's giving me memory errors, I should do a memory test?18:57
monsunewell my clue was that at least one guy in here must be using a hardware firewall ;)18:57
daftykinsproblem123: could have knocked something loose. yeah memtest wouldn't hurt18:57
bekksmonsune: If your line is ddos'ed with more bandwidth than you actually have, no firewall on this world can prevent that.18:58
daftykinsdon't enable the offtopic =/18:58
EndymionMAlright.  Thanks for the help, See you all later.18:59
monsunebekks the firewall in colo is on another network than physical machine and it's just routed tru fw19:00
bekksmonsune: Which doesnt affect what has been said.19:00
monsuneso what's the point of that fw and why is it so costly...19:00
bekksmonsune: It is very offtopic in here.19:01
monsuneok i'm sorry19:03
problem123daftykins, the memtest finished without errors. I'm going to try updating from the live CD. I hope that works.19:07
Flashservisněkdo z České Republiky? :)19:08
cfhowlett!ck19:08
cfhowlett!cz19:08
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.19:08
c2tarunWhy do dialogues from Xchat move to my clipboard automatically? How can I prevent it?19:10
cfhowlettc2tarun, I seem to recall seeing that option in the xchat settings.  explore19:10
mirofilmphoenixskype19:20
cyber37Hi! There is no channel #wine, so i come here19:25
cyber37i try to install the game "Warframe" with wine19:25
cfhowlett!wine|cyber37,19:25
ubottucyber37,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:25
cyber37But the game is broken when she try to acces on internet, i have that 3 lines repeated :19:26
cyber37fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsW (0x12e640,0x292c684,0x76c623e4),stub!19:26
cyber37fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsW RAS support is not implemented! Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead!19:26
cyber37fixme:service:EnumServicesStatusW resume handle not supported19:26
cyber37Sorry for no pastbin it; but for 3 lines .. and cfhowlett, realy thanks for help.19:26
cfhowlettcyber37, ask  #winehq for wine support19:26
Deihmos_Anyone use Ubuntu on surface pro19:27
nikolamthis freaking pulseaudio... since day 1 he was making problems... now I install one simple linux game (FTL) and he is killing CPU using 73% CPU time.. How hard it is jus using SOUND in 2014...19:29
kongthapi installed ubuntu 13.10 as sda2 after windows7, before i only boot into windows7, after using boot-repair now it's only can boot to ubuntu, how to enable dual boot, please help ?19:36
franknogkongthap: both options should be available after you boot into BIOS. grub should come up after you boot.19:41
kongthapfranknog, after using boot-repair, my grub only offers to boot into ubuntu :(19:41
franknogkongthap: why did you use boot-repair19:42
kongthapfranknog, what did you meant by boot into BIOS, what to do ?19:42
franknogkongthap: after BIOS grub comes up. it's just the order19:42
Beldarkongthap, Did you save the botinfo summary?19:43
Beldarbootinfo*19:43
kongthapfranknog, i install ubuntu after windows 7, before i couldn't boot into ubuntu but windows 7, so someone here told me to fix with boot-repair19:43
kongthapBeldar, the boot-repair notice me some paste.ubuntu.com, hang on19:44
kongthapBeldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7097373/19:44
franknogkongthap: could you also provide the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg?19:47
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EndymionMHi, I'm back, because I have a really dumb question that could only come from someone just going from Windows.  Can I use (for example) Workspace 1 on my laptop display, and Workspace 2 on the one I have connected by VGA cable?  And if I do, can I then swap them like I would with Ctrl+Alt+arrow?19:47
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slbhi all, quick question. couple of years ago, i ripped (using ruby ripper) all my CDs to flacs in one directory. i would like to figure out how to move those to individual folders - one per CD. i was thinking of using music player software to bring up the entire collection of flacs, and then copy one CD at at time to an individual folder, but don't think the music playing software i've used allows you to select the flacs of a given album and m19:48
slbove them like within a file manager. any ideas?19:48
kongthapfranknog, it's here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7097504/19:49
slbfor the record, i've used rhythmbox, amarok, banshee, xnoise over the years19:49
Beldarkongthap, The script shows nothing wrong it should be booting grub, I would use supergrub to boot to ubuntu and reload the mbr from there.19:50
Beldarkongthap, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/19:51
kasadnewbie question. Since alias doesn't take variables ie alias gosubdomainroot="cd /var/www/vhosts/domain.tld/subdomains/$1" I wanted to make a function in .bashrc so I did something like19:51
EndymionMslb: Why not just move them in a batch file based on name into folders?  Is the collection so large as to be unwieldy?19:52
Beldarkongthap, there is also the bootrepiars developers thread at the UF that is good help, post the script there.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post1087191719:52
kongthapBeldar, i will try that, but by the way what is the safe way to install ubuntu after windows 7? i always face this kind of problem :(19:52
MarkShuttleworthMY NAME IS MARK SHUTTLEWORTH19:53
MarkShuttleworthAND I AM YOUR GOD19:53
JazSpazHello Mark Shuttleworth.19:53
slblol19:53
MarkShuttleworthDROP THE AMAZON ADS ALREADY19:53
kasadSo, since alias can't accept $1 I tried in .bashrc: gosub() { if [$1 == ""] then cd /var/www/vhosts/mydomain/subdomains/ else cd /var/www/vhosts/mydomain/subdomains/$1 fi19:53
cfhowlett!ops19:53
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FlannelMarkShuttleworth: Please stop, thanks.19:53
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kasadwhich works, but if I do foreaxmple gosub foo, it will change to said folder but also give me error "command foo doesn't exist"19:54
slbEndymionM, the file names are the title #s and track names. the rest of the info is only in the tags.19:54
Beldarkongthap, Not sure why you have this problem, I have 5 OS on one 256 gig SSD one is W8.1 and the rest ubuntu. YOu would have to detail exactly what you do and happens to find the answer.19:54
kasadany hints?19:54
kongthapBeldar, install ubuntu after windows for 4-5 times, i always face this kind of problems but in slidely different details19:55
franknogkongthap: walk me through your typical Ubuntu installation process.19:56
kongthapBeldar, the 2nd link you suggest, about the boot-repair, this is the one i used when i cannot boot into windows 7, should i try to re-run it again ?19:56
EndymionMslb: I know a perfect piece of software for that in Windows(mp3tag), I know nothing about Wine, so I'm looking for an Ubuntu alternative.19:56
kongthapfranknog, i just got a new harddisk, 1. i made a partition and install windows 7 first19:57
EndymionMslb: Ah. I see.  Try renaming them from their tags with Puddletag, then copy the files to their new folder structure, perhaps?19:57
slbEndymionM, i've used that to tag my mp3s (for my portable disk player). didn't know it could move files around??19:57
Beldarkongthap, I gave yoiu two links one is supergrub and the other the bootrepair developers thread to post that script you gave the url to.19:58
kongthapfranknog, after that i use ubuntu liveusb (created on windows) to made a new ex4 partition and install ubuntu19:58
EndymionMslb: It can, but that's not what I was suggesting - I was suggesting it for Step 1 - rename them so that it's artist - album - track - tracknum.19:58
kongthapfranknog, when finish installing ubuntu i just only can boot into windows 7 just like i never install ubuntu19:58
slbEndymionM, there's like 8GB of them, i was hoping to do album at a time, not file at a time19:59
cfhowlettkongthap, reinstall grub19:59
cfhowlett!grub19:59
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:59
kongthapBeldar, sorry i misunderstood about the 2nd link19:59
franknogkongthap: that's when you ran boot-repair, but that made you only able to boot into Ubuntu?19:59
Beldarkongthap, Honestly with the info you have given we would at best be guessing why you have this problem, not sure this is the place to figure that out, it might be your job to do this.19:59
EndymionMslb: I still think a mass-move batch would be best19:59
slbEndymionM, my logic is since the music software can read the tags, and categorize per album, i should be able to use that to move an album at a time20:00
naxil!chat20:00
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:00
cfhowlettslb, I've recently begun using clementine.  mass mp3 tag editing is available20:00
EndymionMslb: I was about to suggest Clementine as well.20:00
slbi'll check it out20:01
RobDudeIs there any software that is distribution specific?  Or if you can get it to run in Ubuntu, you can run it in whatever distro, so long as you have the pre-reqs installed?20:01
slbthanks EndymionM and cfhowlett20:01
kongthapcfhowlett, you meant something like this -> sudo grub-install /dev/sda --boot-directory=/mnt20:01
slbRobDude, pretty much20:01
RobDudeslb:  Cool - ty20:01
RobDudeI've noticed a few things that have like a download for Ubuntu but nothing else20:02
kongthapfranknog, yeah, after ran boot-repair i only can boot into ubuntu just like i never had windows :(20:02
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slbRobDude, it is because someone created a deb for Ubuntu b/c it has more users20:02
RobDudeGotcha - but someone on another distro could just take the deb or do whatever they'd need to do and it should work20:03
slbyou can always install from scratch using traballs20:03
RobDudeAhh20:03
kongthapBeldar, allow me one more question, the super grub2, it can be made to liveusb right? all i have to do is made liveusb and boot from it right?20:03
slbubuntu is debian based so uses debs (installation files if you like); others used rpms20:03
Beldarkongthap, yes20:03
ikoniawhy do you want to use supergrub ?20:03
ikoniawhy not use grub that ships with ubuntu20:03
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Beldarikonia, Has a failing boot bootsript looks good for a boot, I suggested supergrub to get in and reload the mbr from the desktop.20:04
kasadguys can somebody give me a hint what I am doing wrong here: http://pastie.org/893052420:04
jorgemhii20:07
jorgemsomebody can help me?20:07
ikoniawhy the need for super grub thats actually a different version20:08
franknoghi jorgem, what seems to be the issue?20:08
ikoniaBeldar: what's wrong with the grub provided on the ubuntu live/install cd20:08
daftykinsjorgem: ask20:08
kasadscratch that, got help already, (if anyone is interested to solution for http://pastie.org/8930524, there has to be space after and before [ and ] in if statement credit goes to mr.  ayecee from #linux20:08
Beldarikonia, nothing except they can't seem to get it to boot, take a look at all the posts, you are welcome to fix that.20:09
jorgemhii, mi problem is that when i charge mi pc ubuntu doesnt put "charging" on the battery20:09
franknogthanks for letting us know how you solved it, kasad20:09
jorgemsorry for my bad english20:09
jorgemhi?20:10
Beldarikonia, They used the bootrepair app, grub is in the mbr.20:10
kongthapplease recommend app to make liveusb for super grub2? it cannot be used with startup disk creator20:11
franknogjorgem: it just doesn't show if the battery is charging?20:11
jorgemthe battery actually is charging but in ubuntu appears like "timeuot xx min"20:13
jorgemtimeout*20:13
franknogjorgem: is that the only problem you have?20:13
jorgemyes :)20:13
ikoniaBeldar: then why are you telling them to get super grub ?20:13
jorgemi hav others but i want to solve that first20:14
jorgemhave*20:14
Beldarikonia, You have not been following, and now you are here to ask me stupid questions, help the user, suggesting supergrub to boot in is not a bad suggestion.20:14
franknogjorgem: it's probably a GNOME thing considering GNOME does the same thing. it's not a pressing issue, so how about we take care of one of your other problems?20:14
ikoniaBeldar: it's not a stupid question, it's a pretty sensible considering he probably already has an ubuntu CD from which he did the install from,20:15
Beldarikonia, I know your a mod and I am not being disrespectful, however your focus is really off here.20:15
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jorgemit doesnt have a solution? what a pitty :(20:15
ikoniaBeldar: that's why I'm asking the question - to understand why you are suggesting a super grub CD when the ubuntu cd will be fine20:15
ikoniaunless there is something I'm missing20:15
ikonia(hence asking)20:15
jorgemhow can i reorder the icons at the right/top screen?20:16
Netwolfhttp://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/tlg/4376561036.html20:16
ikoniaNetwolf: please don't spam that here20:16
jorgemi use gnome interface20:16
Netwolfikonia: sorry, stupid touch screen paste20:16
franknogjorgem: I think unity-tweak-tool will take care of that if you're using Unity. for GNOME it is gnome-tweak-tool.20:17
jorgemi have that.. but i dont know were is the configuration20:17
franknogjorgem: you don't know how to access it? type unity-tweak-tool into the terminal.20:18
jorgemi know that but i cant find where do i can change de order of the icons20:19
Beldarikonia, Seemed the best path to results under a circumstance of a use not understanding or even knowing what they have done or are doing or the answer to why they have this same problem on a msdos HS everytime.20:20
Beldaruser/HD20:20
saraBuenas noches!20:21
Beldarikonia, I use supergrub often other then the live cd, to reload from the desktop, but I have it on a multibot usb, it is a small download is all.20:22
ikoniaI don't see why super grub cd is needed for that, but fair enough20:22
ikoniaBeldar: he should already have the ubuntu cd - he did the install on, so there is no download required20:22
jorgemhola sara!20:22
saraJust instaled Xubuntu and I dont have a 'restart' entry on the menu... just power off and logoff20:23
saraany ideas how to put a restart there?20:23
jorgemsara podes apretar directamente el boton de encendido/apagado20:24
sarajorgem, no, sale un aviso de : esto se apaga en 30 seg. aceptas o cancelas...20:24
mactrentsara: I'm slightly annoyed by this, too, but if you use th 'Log Out', it opens up a menu with options.  It's a lot like WinXP.20:25
jorgemsara, que raro! xubuntu o lubuntu?20:25
tozenhey! eng, please20:25
saraxubuntu20:25
saramactrent, lets look there!20:26
saramactrent, right20:26
tozensara:  why to not to use bash aliases then?20:26
Izaya #learnprogramming20:26
Izayawoops20:26
sarathanks, didn't even look at there20:26
sarajorgem, está en en menú logout!20:27
Beldarkongthap, Lets get back to what happens when you power on, the grub menu should be showing, does it if you use the shift key right after powering on?20:27
saratoo less intuitive but works.20:27
mactrentsara: Yes, it's weird.  You may also notice that 'Hibernate' only ever shows up in that pop-up, and only if properly configured.   That had me stumped, too.  :P20:27
BerylAnyone know an ISO mounting utility that can mount pretty much anything? I ripped my games and some refuse to mount via CLI, but work fine in windows, hmmm20:27
cfhowlett!es|jorgem,20:27
ubottujorgem,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:27
ikoniaBeryl: mount will work with any valid iso20:28
jorgemok, sorry :)20:28
bekksBeryl: that utility is called "mount".20:28
kongthapBeldar, i got grub menu, but there was no loader for sda120:28
OerHeksBeldar, did he post a 'fdisk -l' ?20:28
saramactrent, just erased that posibility. got a SSD drive and looks like it's not recommended to suspend20:28
BeldarOerHeks, WE got a bootscript http://paste.ubuntu.com/7097373/20:28
saraor hibernate20:28
kongthapBeldar, should i try to hold shift key while booting ?20:28
Izaya`OriharaQuestion20:29
tozenIzaya`Orihara: Answer20:29
saracfhowlett, google translate will help if you want to read spanish ;)20:29
mactrentsara, Alright.  Best of luck with Xubuntu!20:29
Beldarkongthap, No you get the grub menu sda1 is windows sda2 is ubuntu, do you see ubuntu in that menu?20:29
saramactrent, thanks!20:29
=== Izaya`Orihara is now known as Izaya
IzayaHas anyone here used YUMI sto setup Ubuntu 13.10 or greater?20:30
kongthapBeldar, i saw ubuntu on the menu20:30
mactrentIzaya: I have.  It appears to make some customizations.20:30
Beldarkongthap, Can you boot to ubuntu or windows from the grub menu?20:31
kongthapBeldar, i only can boot to ubuntu (right now i'm on ubuntu)20:31
Izayamactrent: have you ever experienced it showing the boot option, showing the splash screen, and then going black (with backlighting)???20:32
jorgemhi, does someone know how can i change the size of the icons that are on the right upper side of the screen? i use GNOME interface. Thanks you! :)20:32
IzayaI've heard adding nomodeset before the -- in the grub.cfg helps20:32
kongthapBeldar, i cannot boot into windows because i cannot see choice to boot to windows,20:32
Beldarkongthap, Run sudo update-grub to update grub. So this is windows is not booting from grub?20:32
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Beldarkongthap, do the sudo up0date-grub in ubuntu and reboot and see if windows is availabke.20:33
kongthapBeldar, open the terminal and sudo update-grub now?20:33
kongthapBeldar, ok20:33
Beldarkongthap, In the ubuntu install yes, then reboot and see if windows boots from the grub menu.20:33
mactrentIzaya: That depends.  It does go black when it's booting Ubuntu, but are there leftovers of the menu or something?20:34
Izayanegative20:34
kongthapBeldar, i did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7097731/20:34
Izayausually it doesn't even get to the menu20:34
Izayamactrent: usually it won't get to the menu at all.20:34
Beldarkongthap, Looks good windows is showing, reboot to the grub menu and see if windows boots.20:35
mactrentIzaya: Usually?  Is there anything at all on the screen when it doesn't?20:35
Izayamactrent: on occassion it seems to get to the "use live" or "install" but not always20:36
BerylI wish ubuntu had a comercial version, no BS stuff like amazon, with online file storage syncing20:37
BeldarBeryl, That can be removed and shutoff easily.20:37
mactrentIzaya: How old is this USB drive?  I'd suspect corruption.  The other thing to try is booting on another computer.20:38
BerylBeldar: Ya but you'd think Canonical would have a commercial version to rake in some money20:38
BeldarBeryl, Don't follow a confirmation bias road, your just repeating others opinions without any solid research.20:39
mdelgadoWhere is a great place/resource to learn more about Linux.20:39
willvarfarI have a big, old old old codebase using CVS and a custom python build script.  But there's a lot of c++0x in there.  What IDEs can load a project from CVS (or git), code-completion *without* being in charge of the compile step?20:39
BerylBeldar: Key words: Repeating others opinions, there's demand and they ignore it, and are losing money20:39
cfhowlettmdel, ibm.com has an entire linux course20:39
mdelgadocfhow, Do you know if its free?20:39
cfhowlettmdelgado, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/20:39
mdelgadocfhow, Awesome thanks.20:39
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kongthapBeldar, i got dual boot now :)20:40
OerHekskongthap, awesome, have fun :-)20:41
cfhowlettmdelgado, if not currently free, it will be soon according to recent news story20:41
mdelgadocfhow, oh. ok I'll keep an eye on it.20:41
kongthapOerHeks, thanks :)20:41
cfhowlett!cookie|Beldar,20:41
Izaya`Oriharasorry about that20:41
ubottuBeldar,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:41
=== Izaya`Orihara is now known as Izaya
Izayasorry about that20:41
Beldarkongthap, Cool, we just had some miscommunication is all, I saw you were probably getting grub, and should of stuck with that.20:41
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kongthapBeldar, sorry about confused info from me :)20:42
mdelgadoI have found learning Linux OS/Servers so much more interesting that Windows based oses.20:42
Berylmdelgado: linux really shines with servers where you want complete control over the system.20:42
Beldarkongthap, It happens with all of us, no biggie, I was just concerned in the end you get going. So remember that update-grub command is all it rebuilds the grub menu when needed or after any changes made.20:43
kongthapBeldar, in the other days, i couldn't boot into windows7 after ubuntu installation but i used to use like "sudo grub-install xxx" i was working, i also did the same as last time but it's not working20:43
mdelgadoIt sure does. Just so much freedom. The CLI has also given me the desire/motivation to learn even more. Just limitless.20:44
Beldarkongthap, When I dual boot I do a manual install from the something other option on the install gui. I then make sure my install goes to a specific partition, and that grub goes to the mbr is all.20:45
mdelgadoWhat type of job oppertunities are available to professionals who have certs in Linux?20:46
Berylmdelgado: Running the internet.20:46
mdelgadoAre they limited to larger environments?20:46
kongthapBeldar, next time may be i just use boot-repair, then sudo update-grub, this should be the easiest for beginner like me20:46
saraok everydoby. Time to make some dinner.20:46
sarathanks for all and Hae a lot od Fun!20:47
Berylmdelgado: Medium-Large typically, although a lot do contract for smalller companies20:47
Beldarkongthap, It looked from the bootinfo summary that all you did wrong in the install was to have grub put in the ubuntu partition sda2 here, rather than the mbr just sda, just a guess though but based on extra booting files in ubuntu.20:48
mdelgadoBeryl, I think it would be a great career decison to make Linux a specialty of mine.20:49
mdelgadoTHanks.20:49
Beldarmdelgado, Sure, however off topic here is all.20:50
Beldarmdelgado,  try  #ubuntu-offtopic20:51
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kongthapBeldar, i did "grub-install /dev/sda --boot-directory=/mnt" you guess it should be *sda2* instead of *sda* right ?20:53
OerHeksno, sda is correct20:54
ttyS1How can I remove a user from being listed by the GDM3 greeter / login screen ?  I edited /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf and enabled:   IncludeAll = false Include = user   but the user still shows in the login screen20:55
Beldarkongthap, I Like this link, it has a cool chroot command slightly different than the standard, sometimes a chroot is needed is all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot   The commands you just showed work most of the time if correct, but at times a chroot is needed.20:55
kongthapBeldar, ok i will try to understand from it :)20:56
MrSavagehow do i restart my eth0?20:56
MrSavageservice networking restart says that it doesn't know stop and start20:57
MrSavageand i get an error for /etc/init.d/networking restart20:57
bazhangifup/ifdown20:57
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Ambucok21:00
BTDheroHi again :D21:01
BTDheroanybody online ?21:01
mactrentBTDhero: Absolutely.21:02
BTDheroI could use some help21:02
mactrentI'll see what I can do.21:02
BTDheroI have the latest version of ubuntu installed on my Dell Inspiron 150121:02
cfhowlett!details|BTDhero,21:02
ubottuBTDhero,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:02
BTDheroAnd I can't start ubuntu :(21:02
mactrentBTDhero: Now, is this a dual-boot setup?21:03
BTDheromy video driver cracked and I keep getting that message that it will try to run in low-graphics mode, but it won't start anyway21:03
BTDheronope, ubuntu only on the laptop21:03
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BTDheroI am now online on my PC21:03
mactrentBTDhero: Ok, so what does it do when it won't start, even in low graphics mode?  Does it reboot the computer, or just sit there?21:04
BTDheroit just sits there ...21:04
BTDheroI have several options in a litttle menu, but none works21:05
OerHeksBTDhero, ATI x1150 right? should work with the standard driver AFAIK21:06
BTDheroI guess so. I tried to install some ATI software from Ubuntu Software Center.21:07
BTDheroIt worked before21:07
BTDheroRefreshL it worked when I installed Ubuntu 13, it stopped working after installing that software21:08
bekksand now you are using which ubuntu?21:08
mactrentOerHecks: Are you thinking Live CD->chroot->dpkg/apt-get remove?21:09
BTDheroon the laptop I have the latest version, downloaded last night21:09
bekksBTDhero: the latest version is 13.1021:09
BTDherothat one, most probably21:09
bekksBTDhero: And which version are you on?21:09
bekksBTDhero: Please check it, using "lsb_release -a"21:09
BTDherook, I should open a terminal for that command ...21:10
mactrentBTDhero, do you still have your Live CD handy?21:11
BTDheroyeap21:11
mactrentThere may be a better solution, but I'd recommend (and I can walk you through) booting to the Live CD, then uninstalling said ATI driver package.21:12
bekksthat can be done in recovery mode, too.21:12
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mactrentGotcha.21:13
BTDheroI tried some things in recovery mode today,  but nothing worked21:13
BTDheroI could try to boot the Live CD21:13
bekksBTDhero: Define "some things". Did you uninstall the driver in question?21:14
mactrentIf you can get to recovery mode, the Live CD may not help.  What did you try from recover mode?21:14
BTDheronope, I tried to reinstall some older drivers, found some commands on ubuntuask forums21:14
BTDheroso .. sudo apt-get install fglrx21:15
bekksBTDhero: Then you should uninstall that driver. Instead of trying to install it again.21:15
BTDheroI should indeed, how could I do that ?21:16
bekkssudo apt-get purge fglrx21:16
BTDheroI also tried failsafeX, from recoverymenu21:16
BTDherobekks: should I enter that command in a terminal?21:17
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bekksBTDhero: You should enter that command in recovery mode.21:17
bekksBTDhero: At least that was suggested - to remove the broken driver.21:18
BTDherook, I am currently booting my live CD... can I enter recovery mode form over here, or should I restart and enter GRUB ?21:18
bekksBTDhero: There is no recovery mode on the live cd.21:19
BTDheroah, ok I will eject the disk and restart then21:19
BTDheroso: W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.21:22
bekksBTDhero: You have to mount that filesystem read/write.21:22
BTDheroand how can I do that ?21:23
bekkssudo mount -o remount,rw /21:23
bekksReplace / with the path where the filesystem in question is mounted.21:23
Izayasooooooooooo yeah that was fun21:23
Izayaaccidentally formatted my Ubuntu boot after hopping to my windows boot to allocate more drive space21:24
Izayaand then killed my grub file, had to totally reinstall windows. Deleted my whole partition in the process when it decided to install :-\21:24
bekksIzaya: Time for restoring the backup.21:24
Izayalol... I lived dangerously bekks21:24
Izaya... too dangerously. Luckily anything worth keeping was on my Dropbox anyway21:24
Izayaeverything else was fluff.21:24
Izayabut now that I've made that mistake21:25
IzayaI'm setting up a windows backup right now :-\ and partitioned out my drives the away I want so that going forward21:25
IzayaI'll have a ton of space21:25
charhello21:27
BTDherohi21:27
charjust looking about21:28
charwhen i ask for a list of channels nothing shows21:28
BTDherobekks: you got me, which filesystem do you mean ?21:28
OerHeks!alis21:28
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*21:28
bekksBTDhero: the filesystem of your system, which is mounted in recovery mode,21:29
BTDherobekks: namely? :-S21:29
bekksBTDhero: The recovery mode asked wether you want to mount it readonly and it told you where it was mounted to.21:29
brainburgerhello - is this a good place to ask for help installign java?21:31
BTDherololz, I guess I got it.21:32
bekks!jdk | brainburger21:32
bekks!java | brainburger21:32
ubottubrainburger: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:32
brainburgerthansk (Are you a bot?) I'll read that.21:33
BTDherobekks: I believe it worked, should I restart now ?21:33
toshiba_hi21:34
bekksBTDhero: yeah.21:34
toshiba_speaking spanish??21:34
bekks!es | toshiba_21:34
ubottutoshiba_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:34
charseems i need to do more reading before I attempt this21:35
toshiba_ok21:36
BTDherothanks, bekks , it started :D21:36
BTDheroit runs pretty awful though... I am asked if I want to do 'additional debugging work' :-S21:37
bekksBTDhero: Why ":-S" - cant you answer that question yourself?21:37
BTDherowell I am currenlty trying to remove that ATI software that I installed21:38
bekksBTDhero: Which you said that you did remove it.21:39
bekksBTDhero: So that question is to be answered with "yes" or "no".21:39
BTDheroIndeed, it is not here anymore. But the windows are moving pretty laggy around, so I guess I should fix that21:41
BTDheroAnd that question has a lot of answers, lol21:41
BTDheroNamely: I don't know, No, I just need to know  a workaround, Yes, if not too technical, Yes, Yes including running git bitsection searches21:42
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bekksBTDhero: Yes, you do know. Yes, you removed the driver you wanted to remove. No, that was all to do. No, there is nothing more to do.21:43
BTDherook, I guess I'll just try to experiment more woth the drivers. And really now, I mean it,  those are all the options which I can choose to answer. thanks a lot for the help :D21:45
OerHeksati x1150 is too old for unity 3d, as 2d desktop is removed, i think you better try xubuntu21:45
bekksBTDhero: you dont have to experiment. That card is just too old.21:46
BTDherooh, so I'll just have to get used to it21:48
delsouzhi21:49
delsouzhi21:49
mactrentHello.21:49
delsouzfemale chat21:50
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entreri_hey there, I'm looking for a Windows Command Prompt simulator for Linux, any idea ?21:55
entreri_There is Cygwin, which is a Linux command-line simulator for Windows... but I can't find the opposite21:56
bekksentreri_: cygwin is not a simulator :)21:56
bekksentreri_: the most easy way would be to install windows in a vm.21:56
Deihmosabout to try ubuntu out. have not tried it in a while now the last time it felt so sluggish compared to windows21:57
entreri_Cygwin is a Linux command-line simulator for Windows, that means that if you do the command "ls /home/of/user", in reality, it's going to do "DIR C:\Home\User", that's what I understand of it21:58
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entreri_bekks:21:58
KillerWalrushi all21:58
k1lDeihmos: for chitchat please see #ubuntu-offtopic21:58
ActionParsnipDeihmos: xubuntu and lubuntunaim to be airy and light21:58
KillerWalrusso I'm getting grub2 rescue mode on Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME - done the following:21:58
ActionParsnipLubuntu aim*21:58
KillerWalrusset root, set prefix, insmod, normal, -> boots as normal -> update-grub, reboot21:58
Deihmosthis is on an i7 laptop21:58
bekksentreri_: cygwin is a large collection of GNU and Open Source tools which provide functionality similar to a Linux distribution on Windows.21:58
ActionParsnipKillerWalrus: id boot to live cd and reinstate grub using a chroot21:59
KillerWalrusset root, set prefix, insmod, normal-> boots as normal -> apt-get purge grub-common, reinstall, reboot -> and rescue mode again21:59
bekksentreri_: but to answer your question again, I never heard of a windows command line emulator for linux.21:59
ActionParsnipDeihmos: its about ram use, not cpu. You could have an i7 but with 512Mb RAM21:59
Deihmos8gb ram21:59
KillerWalrusActionParsnip: shouldn't apt-get purge grub-common have done that? Anyways, it's complaining about a device not found, but I can't find any trace of that UUID in /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /etc/default/grub or in blkid22:00
Deihmosthe ui felt sluggish. graphics was up to date22:00
ActionParsnipDeihmos: then you have far above the min requirements. Should be ok as long as you dont have that optimus garbage22:00
Deihmosanyway about to try it out again. this laptop is i7 12gb ram22:00
ActionParsnipKillerWalrus: the chroot may help. OmgUbuntu has a guide called: sticking it to Grub22:01
KillerWalruscool, I'll tr22:01
ActionParsnipDeihmos: earlier you said 8Gb, now 12Gb.....22:01
Deihmosthe pc i had at that time had 8gb22:02
Deihmosi more think the sluggish performance had to do with the ui than anything else22:02
ActionParsnipDeihmos: ahhh I see. Is the system you are using have an Optimus based GPU (Intel and Nvidia)?22:02
Deihmosthe one i have new has intel anf nvidia. the one i had before was amd and intel22:03
ActionParsnipDeihmos: that can be a headache, the nvidia+optimus is getting better though22:04
puffI have an ubuntu install, I installed centos on a separate partition, it appears that centos overwrote the MBR so now it only boots into centos.22:04
bekks!grub2 | puff22:04
ubottupuff: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub222:04
puffbekks: Thanks.22:05
puffbekks: So, this is for after windows kills the MBR, obviously centos is similar, any idea exactly what boot-repair/grub-install is going to do?22:07
Beldarpuff, When you get the ubuntu grub back, I believe centos is one of the few OS's that need to be mounted for grub 2 to see it with a grub-update as well.22:07
puffBeldar: Ah, thanks, but can you expand on that a bit?22:07
ActionParsnipBeldar: grub2 is grub2 so will work the same in any distro22:08
puffBeldar: Taking a stab in the dark, are you saying a) boot-repair, b) boot into ubuntu, c) manually mount the centos partition, d) use grub-udpate to add centos to the grub2 setup?22:08
rd_someone can help me??22:09
Beldarpuff, Grub 2 has the os-prober, it finds other OS's, normally not needing to be mounted to be found and added to the grub menu. Centos if I remember, may be another OS that needed to be mounted.22:09
rd_help me please???22:09
bekks!ask | rd_22:09
ubotturd_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:09
rd_its about a plugin . exe for firefox22:09
BeldarActionParsnip, I know grub 2 should see all OS technically, I just recall centos as possibly having this quirk.22:09
rd_alguem fala português??22:10
ActionParsnip!pt22:10
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.22:10
ActionParsnipBeldar: then its a bug. Grub2 will point to a partition and load the kernel. Grub doesnt mount partitions22:10
BeldarActionParsnip, Really just heads up info, in case the grub-update does not see centos, but yeah something seemed amiss at the time.22:13
puffBeldar: Again, thanks. I'm waiting for yum update to complete before I reboot and etc.  Is there recommended reading on this?22:13
Beldarpuff, If you want ubuntu to have the grub control the bootrepair app should fix this and make a bootinfo summary to use. Or a reload of the mbr from a live ubuntu cd.22:15
drscoopsAn uncaught exception was raised:22:15
drscoops[Errno 5] Input/output error22:15
drscoopswhat does that mean22:15
KillerWalrusActionParsnip: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video done, unfortunately it still results in rescue mode22:15
KillerWalrushowever, if I do set prefix=(hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub22:15
kcdehimposterHey guys could you help me out? I just built a new computer with a Radeon HD 7870 2gb, but it doesn't seem to be going as fast as it should be, I tested out Minecraft and I am playing with only 40 fps :(22:15
KillerWalrusthen insmod normal and normal, it boots immediately22:15
Slartkcdehimposter: minecraft is a22:16
Beldarpuff, Centos, I think is grub legacy, you could add ubuntu to it. I never messed with grub legacy, but others here have.22:16
Slartkcdehimposter: minecraft is not a good benchmark... it's weird in many ways22:16
Slartkcdehimposter: you can always try switching between binary/proprietary drivers and open source drivers.. see if it makes a difference22:17
puffBeldar: I can't think of any problem with having ubuntu/grub2 be in charge of everything.22:17
kcdehimposterIs there anything else to test? The other problem I was having was when I load up a steam game, it will launch, but when I go into the actual game it closes itself down.22:18
puffBeldar: When you say "You could add ubuntu to it" do you mean having grub legacy handle booting into ubuntu?22:18
Slart!radeon | kcdehimposter22:18
ubottukcdehimposter: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:18
Slartkcdehimposter: any error messages?22:18
kcdehimposterNone, just closes down and goes to desktop22:18
drscoopsAn uncaught exception was raised:22:18
drscoops[Errno 5] Input/output error22:18
kcdehimposterI have down it with Garry's Mod and TF222:18
Beldarpuff, Yeah, legacy, I believe did not have a auto update to add OS's.22:18
dartlunk38 countries it looks like22:19
Slartkcdehimposter: I'm pretty sure there are error messages.. try running the game from a terminal and see what you get22:19
ActionParsnipkcdehimposter: i'd ask in #ubuntu-steam22:19
dartlunki wonder what it is for canada22:19
ActionParsnipkcdehimposter: there is a steam channel22:19
dartlunkpeople like to think canada is better, but as far as people entering the country canada is typically more strict overall actually22:19
kcdehimposterOkay thanks22:19
Slartkcdehimposter: good suggestion from ActionParsnip.. they might have better suggestions when it comes to gaming on ubuntu22:19
dartlunkand for good reason. canada doesnt watn wish wash coming into their country22:19
ActionParsnipdartlunk: how is this Ubuntu support related?22:20
dartlunkoops22:20
dartlunkwrong channel lol22:20
ActionParsnipdartlunk: yep22:20
Beldarpuff, Did you look at the original boot grub 2 links, there you will see the bootrepair app, and links to doing this manually from a live cd.22:20
puffBeldar: Yeah, I'm reading those.  They don't mention grub-update.22:20
puffBeldar: Ah, that may be because it's update-grub.22:20
Beldarpuff, Heh, sorry, I switched the syntax from the command, my apology.22:21
puffIs grub2 going to be comfortable invoking grub 1 on centos?22:22
Beldarwithout intending to, Doh22:22
puffSomebody on #centos suggests installing grub to the centos /boot partition instead of the MBR.22:23
Beldarpuff, Is this a boot partition you had for ubuntu as well, or one made by centos? Are there any other OS's here?22:24
puffBeldar: Just ubuntu and centos.22:25
puffBeldar: It's the /boot partition that centos created.22:25
Beldarpuff, Ah, I have never had a boot partition, I use the mbr always. Others here can help on this, knowing the otions.22:26
Beldaroptions*22:26
puffBeldar: Thanks.22:30
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kcdehimposterHey guys, which driver should I be using for my Radeon HD 7870 2gb? There is an open source one and 2 propietary22:31
Beldarpuff, My guess is that you could reload the mbr with ubuntu grub and it will read the centos boot, or even use that boot partition with ubuntu's grub. I just don't know how centos has tweaked grub....etc, or at least I'm concerned on that.22:31
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cloneGhello I am using ubuntu on a quad core...but when working on blender one core reaches 100% cpu usage while the rest remain about 10% could it be possible to balance usage between cores to prevent blender from hanging? in the other hand the system keeps working22:47
JoozeyFor me one core is 75%, the rest 10 or lower22:49
SlartcloneG: I would be surprised if blender didn't have some kind of support for multi-threading.. you've looked through all the settings?22:49
Joozeyone core is stable at 75%, if I rotate the view around another core jumps from 10 to 20%, so it seems to be multithreading22:51
OSauceyHey. I was here the other day about trouble with audio. I can now adjust the levels using alsamixer but the audio icon in the upper menubar does not work, all the options are grayed out and no devices are showing up.  pulseaudio --start   causes some options show up, but only for the dummy output. Ideas on how to get my sound card to show up and why pulseaudio isn't starting on login?22:52
cloneGSlart must multi-threading be configured????23:05
SlartcloneG: I have no idea but there might be an option somewhere.. sometimes multi-threading has its own disadvantages so it might not be enabled by default.. there might also be a configuration for multithreading when rendering and one setting for the gui.. it's quite possible the gui isn't multithreaded at all since the heavy lifting is usually done during the rendering phase23:07
cloneGwise thoughts23:07
cloneGI think I ll ask at blender irc23:08
alex80kshello23:10
alex80ksDoes anybody know why on Ubunty 12.04 always get error when installing some package but it almost always packages are installed corectly?23:14
elb0wso I have a 8.2 macbook pro. I was running 13.04. I did a dist-upgrade and when I rebooted it after grub I see rom not supported and cant get passed that. I used to set some outb and i915 settings in the grub launch command. I cannot seem to find those in the macbookpro docs anymore. Anyone have any thoughts?23:16
thom_hello all23:17
Beldarelb0w, In grub e=edit for the kernel.23:17
jillsmitthow can i enable acpi support in ubuntu server 12.04?23:18
elb0wBeldar: yes23:18
elb0wBeldar: I cant find the commands I used to enter, they used to be on the ubuntu docs23:18
elb0waaaaaaand I just found them23:19
elb0w:D23:19
Beldarelb0w, The i915 looks familiar as a general command IE hardware bound, I don't know what "outb" is23:19
elb0wBeldar: in the grub edit mode is there a way to insert a tab instead of space space space space space space space23:19
Beldarelb0w, Not sure what you mean with "tab instead of space space..etc"23:20
elb0wBeldar: like to move the cursor 4 spaces in one key press23:21
Beldarelb0w, Heh, never worried about that, so no answer on that.23:21
elb0wBeldar: np https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Raring23:22
elb0wthis was the docs23:22
elb0wI needed23:22
elb0wif you were curious23:22
elb0wworking now23:22
elb0wwoo23:22
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Beldarelb0w, That is about as close to a apple computer I have come, just never owned one is all23:24
jakey1is there a piece of software that can compare to code files and tell you the difference of contentbetween them23:25
jakey1or something online?23:25
elb0wBeldar: Honestly I bought it because the rendering of the fonts in mac is awesome23:25
elb0wBeldar: but I ended up just dual booting ubuntu on it23:25
RobDudejakey1:  Do you want a GUI or console based diff?  There are quite a few23:26
Beldarelb0w, Good OS and would use if I had one.23:26
elb0wBeldar: I plan to get the new microsoft surface 3 when it comes out to put ubuntu on it23:26
jakey1RobDude: I think i find one online thanks23:26
Beldaruse what feeds your needs. ;)23:26
jhutchinsjakey1: In fact, this is how code patches are usually created.23:26
RobDudejakey1:  Cool - good luck!23:26
jhutchinsjakey1: gnu diff can produce a standardized format that can be imported to existing code.23:27
jakey1thanks23:27
RobDudeSigh - if I'd started on my homework instead of installing Linux (again) I'd probably be done by now :)  I still don't know what I'm doing, but this is getting addictive23:28
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RobDudeIf I test a version of Ubuntu inside a virtualbox and decide 'Wow, this is great' is there any way to 'export' the virtual hard-drive into a real hard-drive - or is it better to just install it and redo any customization23:34
RobDudeI tried to Google it, but my google-fu is weak, apparently23:35
evilbugso i set up a portable ubuntu system on a flash drive and i'm having issues with having ubuntu automatically reading the networking interface. i see there's an available eth1 but how would i make that default? ubuntu server 12.0423:35
BeldarRobDude, Can be done, but not for the timid is all. You could make a dpkg of apps installed and any repos and keys that are extra and reload the basic install in another.23:36
RobDudeBeldar:  Thanks.  I had a feeling it wouldn't be straight-forward.  I'll just reinstall and tackle that another day23:37
jillsmitttemp1 in acpitz-virtual-0 always show 8.3 C23:38
jillsmitthow to solve this?23:38
RobDudeYuck - I used 'cat' to read a file, but it wasn't a text file (it's binary/unreadable) but it seems to have broken my terminal.  My prompt has junk in it and if I do 'ls' I'm getting a bunch of weird symbols.  Can I fix it without exiting/closing the window?23:38
david38400my sound has just disappeared. Can anyone help fix please?23:39
Beldar!sound | david3840023:39
ubottudavid38400: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:39
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david38400Beldar, I have been listening to music on my bluetooth speaker and all of a sudden no sound at all23:40
jasabellahi23:41
angrycoasthi23:41
Beldardavid38400, Bummer, I never use bluetooth so no real help here.23:42
david38400thanks everyone23:42
saif_forgeI'm currently using i3. Anyone know how I could switch user without logging out (like lxde)23:42
evilbugok, in /etc/networking/interfaces is it possible to make it so that that i'd throw a bunch of eth possible entries and have ubuntu atuomatically scan which one works at startup?>23:43
pdo_fn14Anyone know method to mount device without sudoers password?23:44
saif_forgeanyone in here know how to do anything?23:47
GeoIs it possible to run two SMTP servers w/ internet access behind a single NAT?23:52
RobDudeGeo:  I'm assuming you want them both on the same port, right?23:54
ejuanGeo, you just need to set them to run on different ports23:54
RobDudeEr yeah - if they are on different ports - you shouldn't have to do anything special at all23:55
rwwgoing to run in to all sorts of fun in this scenario23:56
rwwif you're sending outgoing mail, you're going to have issues with spam filters. if you're receiving mail, other SMTP servers will be expecting you to be on the well-known port23:56
GeoI guess the clients would have to be told not to use port 2523:57
charcoHi! I'm a bit stucked in trying to install ubuntu with raid0. Can anyone give me some advice? (I've read hundreds of tutorials and have some doubts that doesn't seem to be addressed in anyone of them :/)23:57
Geoand for incoming, pop would be used... i'll cross that bridge when I get to it I guess23:57
rwware you planning on not sending mail outside your local mailserver ever?23:57
GeoNo, it needs internet access23:58
rwwokay, then I'm not sure why you think incoming mail would use POP. Other SMTP servers would be using SMTP to talk to your SMTP server23:58
rwwand clients should be using 587 anyway, btw23:58
Geoincoming mail to the user... ie, retrieving mail23:58
rwwand if you're sending mail to other SMTP servers, again, you are going to run into spam filtering hell23:59
rwwretrieving mail isn't within the purview of an SMTP server :P23:59
RobDudepdo_fn14:  I think you can add it to your fstab with the 'noauto' flag.  Then you can mount it without sudo23:59
Geothats why i said i'll cross that bridge when I get to it23:59
charcoI want to install ubuntu and then install windows, efi, raid0. I've set up BIOS raid, but somehow I can't access to the raid setup utility (which other systems seem to have with CTRL I or something like that).23:59
rwwand I'm guessing that NAT and lack of SMTP experience implies you're trying to run this off a residential connection or something, in which case... further spam filter hell23:59

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