[00:13] and it's not impossible to do multiple, flying to germany isn't too expensive anyway [00:13] actually, [00:14] jjfrv8: the font also seems a bit off btw in your screenshot. is this droid sans 9 with 96dpi? [00:14] hmm, let me check [00:14] knome: yeah, true [00:14] good eye, ochosi [00:14] micahg: meeeeerge ;) [00:14] a return bus trip to forssa (115km from helsinki) costs 46,10 euros... [00:14] so double that and you are in berlin and back! [00:14] but yeah, i'm off [00:14] jjfrv8: well that's what i'm not paid for to do here ;D [00:14] knome: night! [00:14] thanks everybody for the sprinting and stuff! [00:14] nighty! [00:14] -> [00:17] cya knome [00:18] night everyone! [00:18] dkessel: - never noticed you in here as well :) [02:01] knome, one with a jagged cut line: http://imagebin.org/299415 [02:02] knome, or a shortened one with no scroll bar: http://imagebin.org/299416 [08:14] knome: MP done and waiting [08:50] elfy: you never noticed me here because I have never been here ;) [08:50] ha ha ha [09:44] elfy, what do you think of something like "Xubuntu will always come without any fees; feel free to pass on your installation media to your friend and let them try Xubuntu as well!" [09:45] knome, that's pretty long [09:45] I really don't like the any :) [09:46] "Xubuntu like a dirty hippy, forever free" [09:46] elfy, yeah, remove that and what do you like it then :P [09:46] AussieDownUnder, that's not helpful. [09:46] * elfy is just looking to see what it actually looks like [09:47] and i would also move it below the other

with that wording [09:47] "xubuntu, forever free & shareable" [09:48] Yeah I lol sorry about that. And yeah don't take my advice ever. Except I think yours is way long. [09:48] we are not trying to come up with a motto [09:48] minus the I* [09:48] Oooooh. I guess I should ask what you's are doing then? If yous even want to tell me that is. [09:48] knome: ok- how about "Xubuntu will always come without fees; feel free to pass on your installation media and let others try Xubuntu as well. [09:49] elfy, that's a winner [09:49] AussieDownUnder, working on the installer slideshow [09:49] elfy, yeah, that sounds good [09:49] knome, okay. [09:49] you want me to do that and push? [09:49] elfy, and you think it's ok to drop it below the other paragraph? [09:50] yea - I think that will look more logical [09:50] if you have it handy, sure; if not, i can merge it locally [09:50] got it here [09:50] ok [09:50] i'll look at other things meanwhile then [09:51] knome: ok - so I am pushing with the changes and ordered 1 - we'd love, 2 - pass it on and 3 - help us [09:51] yep [09:52] sorry dudes & dudets didn'y realise I was in this devel channel. I'll quit out since what yous are doing looks extremely important. [09:52] knome: pushed that [09:53] ta [09:53] so, [09:53] who did what [09:53] I don't understand [09:53] i'm updating the changelog [09:53] oic - no idea lol [10:01] ok, pushed rev611 [10:01] with changelog mentioning elfy as well ;) [10:02] lol [10:02] hmm [10:03] looks like it's a bit tight [10:03] i'll make the column wider [10:03] ok [10:03] I did wonder [10:05] heh, [10:05] that artwork is fron natty ;) [10:05] I still think that the mugshot image should be cut to fit - even in the light of a new day [10:05] hehe [10:05] yeah [10:06] we'll discuss that with ochosi when he gets back [10:06] yep [10:07] d'oh [10:07] meant to reword slightly ... [10:07] huh? [10:07] or at least talk about it [10:07] what then? :) [10:07] The different ways to contribute to the Xubuntu community [10:08] rather than The different ways that you can contribute [10:08] it's obvious that it's 'you' [10:08] done [10:08] *opinion* [10:08] ok :) [10:11] * elfy shall spend a bit of time looking at Simon's blog post this weekend too [10:12] nice [10:13] and I just need to check figures for mine and give it a new look and that should be ready to roll shortly after release [10:14] knome: one thing I keep meaning to mention - with the old website you could see slightly older blog posts - not so now [10:14] elfy, yep [10:15] elfy, we will have to think of that, and if we start to use the team calendar more actively, maybe showing new events from that too [10:15] anything can be done to make them a bit more discoverable? [10:15] yea [10:15] possible, will have to touch the ode most probably though [10:15] but will look at that once all release-critical, deadline-related stuff is done [10:15] I guessed as much [10:15] there is no website freeze ;) [10:15] oh yea of course - totally agree :) [10:17] was just mentioning it when I thought of it - because I will forget all about it till the next time :D [10:17] heh [10:44] knome: slight error on slide 7 - currently says The different to contribute ... missing ways :) [10:48] bbl [11:02] heh [11:05] slide 5 says "left top" - shouldn't that rather be "top left"? [11:05] * knome shrugs :) [11:06] is there a task tracker for the xubuntu website? (i should probably google this, i'm assuming launchpad) [11:07] arrith, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website [11:07] thanks :X [11:12] is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com automated or people submit reports? [11:13] people submit results [11:13] ah ok. that makes sense. are there any automated test suites for the isos? [11:15] http://qa.ubuntu.com/getting-involved/automated-tests/ [11:16] hm few google results on that [11:23] Unit193, linguas2 looks okay to me. is there something else we need to make the translations working? [11:28] Full translations? [11:29] well we almost have such. :P [11:46] knome: I'd say testing. [11:49] slickymaster: hey, should we turn bug 1289411 into a meta report? because there are also upstream patches for xfce4-settings and libxfce4ui which addresses the initial problem (messed up xfce_dialog_show_help function) [11:49] bug 1289411 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Help button of Desktop Settings UI doesn't open online help" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289411 [11:58] knome: Unbroke it now too. [11:59] :) [11:59] i should test it some day [11:59] like tomorrow [12:00] bluesabre, bug 1223808 [12:00] bug 1223808 in gmusicbrowser (Ubuntu) "gmbrc misses line to activate albuminfo-plugin" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223808 [12:00] bluesabre, did that ever get fixed? [12:01] knome: I think there have been multiple uploads after that [12:01] I can check today [12:01] ok, thanks [12:02] knome: One thing, you can only decide to make the English guide, but the startpage will always have translated links. [12:03] s/translated/translation/ [12:03] bluesabre, bug 1291019 ? [12:03] bug 1291019 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "xflock4 still uses xscreensaver by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291019 [12:04] I'll fix that this weekend, we found a security hole, created a patch, and cavalier will do a new release this weekend [12:04] ok [12:04] I'll fix that as I get the new release uploaded [12:05] just for the record, please don't attach bugs to the topic-... blueprint [12:05] they don't show up in the tracker [12:05] i'm moving those to -t-bugs and -t-features as appropriate [12:06] ok [12:06] bug 1177116 [12:06] bug 1177116 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Xfwm4's 'dialog' window has an unused maximise-button" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177116 [12:06] are we doing something for that? [12:06] i guess not [12:06] not sure, ali1234 is the only one that "gets" xfwm [12:06] ali1234, bug 1177116 [12:07] we talked about it yesterday [12:07] aha [12:07] so... what's the status [12:07] are we trying to tackle that or not? [12:07] a fix seems to be unlikely [12:07] unless I try to resolve it :D [12:08] that doesn't imply if there is work to be done to try to fix it or not [12:08] so it's more of a "wishlist" thing [12:08] i understand the scope [12:08] no one has done anything until now, so no [12:09] we don't want to break anything at this point of the dev cycle [12:09] unlinking it then [12:11] should we add bug 1232804 to t-features? [12:11] bug 1232804 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Improve "login greeter -> desktop" transition in Xubuntu" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232804 [12:12] i'm generally +1 for adding "fix released" bugs [12:12] because it's obvious that this progress was made for T [12:12] though could also be -t-bugs [12:12] * knome shrugs [12:12] you decide [12:12] not really a bug [12:12] ok [12:34] brainwash: What didn't make it? [12:36] Unit193: what do you mean? [12:37] Nothing, nevermind. [12:38] Though, not sure I'm in favor of it in Xfwm, causes quirks on one computer here. [12:40] so you should create a lp report [12:41] otherwise we won't know which hardware/driver might cause problems [12:42] RV370/M22, but haven't tried it in Trusty yet. [12:43] please do [12:45] (Tried it on this hardware in Trusty, that is.) [12:49] knome, does it look like this: http://imagebin.org/299466 because I'm building it on precise, or is that the way you wanted it? [16:35] jjfrv8, hmm, no, that's not the way it's supposed to look [16:35] jjfrv8, i'll investigate on it [17:01] hey guys [17:02] hi slickymaster [17:05] hey elfy [17:08] brainwash: what's the actual procedure to turn a bug into a meta report? [17:15] hey knome, the whisker shot is broken diagonally ;) [17:15] mamma mia [17:15] :P [17:16] i'm off to sauna, bbl [17:16] you lucky one :P [17:16] and privileged [17:16] anyone got link to menulibre's docs [17:17] nvm - got it here lol [17:17] here elfy http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=menulibre-docs [17:20] ta [18:02] slickymaster: if you get chance over the next few days menulibre is there now https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1256911/+merge/211181 [19:36] Noskcaj: any idea regarding bug 1291606 ? [19:36] bug 1291606 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "Mousepad isn't localized in Dutch, although fully translated into Dutch on Launchpad" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291606 [19:37] the mouse package has been updated for quite some time [19:38] dutch translation was added 2013-04-26 [19:41] so add it and rebuild? or build from a new git snapshot, because only translations have been added/updated anyway [19:44] oh, should be "the mousepad package hasn't been updated for quite some time" :) [20:14] brainwash, Maybe check various bugtrackers for other reasons for a mousepad 0.3.1 to be released [20:15] there are none [20:15] valid reasons [20:23] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?component=General&list_id=16313&product=Mousepad&resolution=--- [20:29] so we pick random patches and release a new version? :) [20:30] that sounds somewhat unlikely [20:40] Maintainer of mousepad on IRC? [20:47] brainwash, It's possible there will be a release for just translation updates, but some bugfixes would make a release more likely [20:48] sounds reasonable [20:49] xfce 10497 would be good. [20:49] xfce bug 10497 in General "Ctrl-click-drag freezes mousepad, using 100% of CPU" [Critical,Assigned] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10497 [21:11] http://paste.openstack.org/show/XHjVq0WVYaM5cee8LMN9/ backtrace for that bug. [21:11] Well, "backtrace" [21:19] why do you even ctrl-click-drag in the first place? [21:20] Because that's what the bug report said would lag it. :P [21:20] if it does not work, does it break any functionality? [21:22] we should tell the dutch guy, that he needs to fix some random mousepad bug, so that his translation will finally land in ubuntu :) [21:23] Hah, he really wants everything translated. :P [21:42] ochosi, bugfix release of the indicator plugin [21:45] http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-indicator-plugin/commit/?id=162fac0d77373c5c4195eea03dbaf8f02e924a1a - xfce 10749 [21:45] xfce bug 10749 in General "blank Properties window" [Major,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749 [21:46] it can be marked as resolved then I guess [21:48] Noskcaj: do you know what's wrong here? https://code.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/xfce-git/+build/5815847 [21:49] wasn't able to build it successfully yet [21:49] What packaging changes have there been from what's in ubuntu? [21:50] I simply updated the changelog and copied the debian folder [21:50] brainwash: Yes. [21:50] brainwash: Also, recently PPA'd it for you, thanks for the hint. [21:50] ppa'd what? [21:51] xfdesktop. [21:51] the bottom of https://code.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+recipe/xfdesktop-git should say 3.0 ,not 0.3 [21:51] i don't know if that changes anything [21:52] Noskcaj: bzr builder 0.3 is right, this isn't Debian packaging. [21:52] the recipe format? [21:52] It's the dash. [21:53] maybe I should try to build it locally first [21:55] Unit193, oops [21:56] Noskcaj: did you check the build log? [21:56] Just that dh_auto_configure did nothing [21:56] brainwash: As I said, it's the dash, trusty no longer accepts those in native packages. [21:59] dash? which dash? =S [21:59] in the version number [22:03] any translators around? [22:03] bluesabre, en_AU :) [22:03] works for me [22:03] :) [22:03] https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/trunk [22:04] rosetta was messed up, please update your translation and let's see if it sticks [22:05] bluesabre: I can do en_AU, s/o/ou/g -i :P [22:05] haha [22:05] :) [22:06] translation works fine [22:06] s/chips/crisps/ -e s/fries/chips/ :P [22:06] good deal [22:07] I'll see if launchpad correctly does the automatic upload later, and then I'll do a call for refreshed translations [22:16] Unit193, learn s/z/s and you have completed you en_au training [22:17] Thus, why I think it's pointless. :P [22:18] of course it's pointless. I do it for lulz and lp karma [22:18] Which is a near abusive reason to. :/ [22:20] so where is the dash and how do I remove it?