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xubuntu355what program should i use to add a windows partition after a fresh install of xubuntu?02:47
holsteinxubuntu355: i use gparted.. but, i would probably use the windows installer if it doesnt wipe the drive02:49
perseidsi have a quick easy question, i wiped the drive and did an full Ubuntu install, can i still resize the linux partitions and add a windows 7 install?03:13
holsteinperseids: nothing about linux or ubuntu is stopping you03:14
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows will likely be necessary03:14
holsteinyou can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair as well03:14
holsteingparted will resize03:15
perseidshrmm03:27
perseidsshould there be any specific reason why windows should be at the front of the drive?03:27
holsteinperseids: no03:28
holsteinperseids: put it where you want/need it to be03:29
perseidsat this point i have a freh xubuntu install03:29
perseidsand everything is backed up03:29
perseidsreinstalling with windows first i can do real quick03:29
holsteinperseids: its a fresh install..03:29
perseidswould add another hour03:29
holsteinperseids: the hour for installing windows happens regardless.. then configuring03:30
holsteinyou might want to just isntall windows, let it wipe the drive.. and let the xubuntu installer setup the dual boot for you.. that wont take long03:30
perseidsi was just wondering if there was going to be issues resizing the partitions with windows at the end03:30
holsteinperseids: i dont have issues..03:31
holsteinperseids: grub doesnt care where the partition is.. windows doesnt care.. if you do, put it where you want03:31
perseidswhats a good list of software to use03:34
perseidsburning dvds03:34
perseidsoffice work03:34
perseidswhich ones are the best now?03:34
perseidsmusic player03:34
holsteinperseids: "good" is always a matter of opinion and use case.. use what is included, and research and try what you like03:34
perseidswhat should i use to partition the drive to make room for windows?03:35
holsteinperseids: i have suggested, and i personally use gparted.. gparted is what i use, and most guides will suggest.. you should use what you are comfortable using03:36
perseidsgoing with clementine for music playr03:40
xubuntu837hello to all04:26
xubuntu837i have a question i hope someone can answer for me04:26
xubuntu837i installed xubuntu and cannot find my volume button04:27
holsteinxubuntu837: should just be down by the time.. is audio working? did you do any testing from a live CD before installing? have you referred to..04:30
holstein!audio04:31
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:31
holsteini use pavucontrol04:31
xubuntu837i do have sound04:31
xubuntu837just not able to adjust it inside ubuntu only in the amorak app04:32
xubuntu837i dont see the volume applet04:32
holsteinxubuntu837: the above resources should help.. i use pavucontrol, which you can use as well04:32
xubuntu837ok i found it in xfc - multimedia  - pulseaudiocontrol04:39
skippezottest04:58
holsteinskippezot: its working.. just ask if you have a question :)05:00
skippezotall right thx05:01
skippezotkinda new to ubuntu and been playing around with diffrent distro's on my system05:02
skippezotseems the only one wich works decent is ubuntu studio05:02
skippezothow come the low latency kernel seems to be more responsive05:04
holsteinwe mostly just start with xubuntu and add packages.. as well as that kernel05:04
skippezotbut the low latency doesn't seem to use so much the hard drive as a plain xubuntu or an xfce session in ubuntu05:05
holsteinskippezot: you can look and see what the sizes are.. the hard drive space the kernel uses will be minimal05:06
holsteinany kernel05:07
skippezotsorry didn't explain very wel05:07
holsteinif you mean resources, it really shouldnt be much different.. though, some folks find issues with the lowlatency kernel05:07
skippezoti don't mean space but reading from or to the harddrive05:07
holsteini usually suggest, if you dont need lowlatency, just use the generic one.. but, if you are enjoying that kernel, go for it05:07
holsteinyou can use it in any ubuntu, since its in the default repos05:08
holsteinskippezot: that kernel shouldnt have anything to do with disk i/o05:08
skippezotthat's what i read also and that's why I'm wondering why it seems to run better05:09
holsteinskippezot: just that, likely friend.. "seems"05:10
skippezotok05:10
holsteinskippezot: as i said, if you are enjoying it, great.. and is something different? could be.. could be configuration or something you did at setup05:10
holsteinor, ubuntustudio 13.10 vs ubuntu 12.04.. vs xubuntu 13.04. for example05:11
skippezotonly used 12.0405:11
skippezotbut like i said I've been playing around much without much knowledge so....05:12
holsteinback then, i think there may be an older version.. so, you could be using an older kernel for lowlatency, and something about the newer generic one has issues with your hardware05:13
skippezotOK05:14
skippezoti'm just wandering cause I'd like to reinstall my system so maybe I could go for plain xubuntu cause I don't realy need the low latency05:15
skippezotI also installed the gnome desktop which probably wasn't such a smart move05:16
skippezotseems to be interfering with xfce session05:16
perseidsso whats essectial sofware for liunx now05:47
fibz_i dont understand the question05:54
perseidsubuntu software center crashes alot05:57
perseidsis there an alternative?05:57
fibz_i just use apt-get in terminal most of the time05:57
fibz_software center is nice for when you dont necessarily know what your looking for05:58
fibz_perseids, there is also Synaptic Package Manager availavle under the app launcer menu -> system -> Synaptic06:00
dna6aif i am updating the ram on my xubuntu 2 gb ddr with 16 gb ddr i dont have to change anything in bios correct?07:11
dna6aive never had a linux os build before just thought id check in advance, i think it should all be cool just to reaplce and switch back on though..07:11
TheSheepdna6a: whether you need to change anything in bios or not is irrelevant to what operating system you are using, better ask in ##hardware and tell them what computer you have08:02
dna6aty08:06
dna6ahow do I check if this ubuntu is 64 or 32?08:25
TheSheepuname -a08:31
TheSheepif it says x86_64, it's 6408:32
dna6aty08:34
perseidswhat are some must have apps for Xbuntu?09:46
dna6afor me cgminer :P09:47
knomeperseids, that depends what you want to do with xubuntu09:47
perseidsis ubuntu software center the only place for ubuntu packages?09:48
knomeyou can use any package management software09:48
knomeother options are synaptic (another GUI) or apt-get (command line tool)09:49
perseidswhich gui package manger is better09:51
perseidsi use to be hardcore command line09:51
perseidsim looking for ease of use09:55
perseidsno bugs09:55
perseidseverything just works09:55
knome"better" is subjective10:00
knomeit depends what you are after...10:01
knomesynaptic allows more fine-grained management than USC, if you are asking about that10:01
starratsgood morning everyone, a question please, is there a firewall download in the software 'store' on ubuntu11:29
bekksstarrats: ufw is already installed.11:29
AussieDownUnderstarrats, lol, I meant ask more specifically about "apparmor", you can definitely find that by searching its name.11:29
bekksapparmor isnt a firewall.11:30
cfhowlett!firewall|starrats, f11:31
ubottustarrats, f: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo11:31
AussieDownUnderarrith, myself & starrats, were discussing something to do with it & irc's. Arrith you mung get over here11:31
starratsah ok but when I sudo ufw status te terminal response came back 'inactive' so that is why I was asking the questions about installing one, that is all11:37
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bekksstarrats: It is installed, but inactive.11:40
baizonstarrats: there is a nice gui for the ufw, its called "gufw"11:40
bekksstarrats: Anf ufw is just a frontend for iptables, which are installed too.11:40
baizoninstall it if you want a gui11:40
knomequoting the documentation...11:40
knome" More advanced users may wish to use the UFW firewall, which is installed, but not enabled, in the default Xubuntu installation. "11:41
starratsah okay11:41
starratsso getting a reply on term saying 'inactive ' after sudo ufw status is okay?11:43
starratsjust curious11:43
knomethat's the expected result.11:43
knomeuntil you activate ufw.11:43
starratsthanks knome11:44
bluesabreWhen you say "more advanced users", everybody becomes one :)11:44
knomeyep.11:44
xubuntu700Hello helpers11:53
xubuntu700i have a problem with my second monitor11:54
xubuntu700i am not able to acces it anymore11:54
xubuntu700i just tried a live cd with same xubuntu version as it is installed and there it works fine11:55
xubuntu700its a ibm lenovo thinpad x6011:57
baizonxubuntu700: which graphics drivers are you using?12:01
xubuntu700its an intel GMA950 chipset12:03
xubuntu700so not additional drivers12:03
xubuntu700I have an additional, maybe related, problem12:05
xubuntu700after normal startup and normal login, I only get a black screen12:06
xubuntu700I just solved it by changing the boot option quiet splash to nomodeset12:07
arrithAussieDownUnder: ah eh12:08
arrithufw is good, and i thought was enabled by default12:08
arrithbut i guess not12:08
arrithwhich is interesting12:08
arrithany thoughts on enabling ufw by default?12:09
xubuntu700what is ufw?12:11
AussieDownUnderarrith, starrats, What distro version is starrats running? That might help first12:12
AussieDownUnderUniversal Fighting Warriors12:12
xubuntu700thats probably not related to my problem ^^12:12
baizonxubuntu700: no its not12:13
xubuntu700am i in the wrong chanel?12:13
xubuntu700its the first time i use irc12:13
baizonxubuntu700: not really, i personally never had an intel graphics card so i cant help :(12:13
AussieDownUnderLol sorry ignore me, I was trolling. What did you come here for?12:13
baizonxubuntu700: but wait and maybe someone else can help you12:14
xubuntu700a problem with my second monitor on xubuntu12:14
knomexubuntu700, what does 'xrandr -q' on the terminal tell you?12:14
knome!pastebin | xubuntu700, please use pastebin:12:14
ubottuxubuntu700, please use pastebin:: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:14
xubuntu700its working fine with the live system of the installed distrobution12:14
xubuntu700failed to get size of gamma for output default12:15
* starrats is running xubuntu 14.04 pre-release12:16
* starrats also knows this channel is for 13.1012:17
AussieDownUnderHmmm, I'm total noob. But have you run any of the following lately? 'sudo apt-get update', followed by 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?12:17
xubuntu700of course ^^12:17
starratsAussieDownUnder ^^^^^12:17
starratsof course i have, everyday, just did another one this morning, plus I have sent in bug reports to ubuntu-bug on terminal12:18
AussieDownUnderMore evidence that I am total noob man mr inexperience.12:19
xubuntu700http://paste.ubuntu.com/7095170/12:21
xubuntu700(result of xrandr -q)12:22
knomexubuntu700, doesn't look like the other monitor is recognised12:22
xubuntu700I guess that too ^^12:23
xubuntu700if i run this command on my notebook (other one) i get the second screen with the correct resolution12:25
xubuntu700(the ThinkPad is my wife's, and everytime if something is not working correctly, its with hers^^)12:26
xubuntu700the strange thing is, that it is working fine with the live system12:28
xubuntu700and the login screen is also displayed on the second monitor, as long as i dont set nomodeset as bootoption12:30
xubuntu700but then is after the login just a blank black screen and the second screen doesn't get a signal anymore12:30
pawellHi, I have a little problem, when I try to execute program by using the whole path like /opt/.../aap it doesn't work, I get "no file or driectory bleble", when I go there by cd /opt cd ble ble and then ./aap It works14:12
bekkspawell: That "bleble" is important.14:13
pawellbekks: I get exacly "No such file or directory"14:14
bekksThen the full path you are specifying is wrong.14:14
baizonpawell: run it like this: ./home/user1/script.sh14:14
bekksDoes it contain whitespaces?14:14
pawellThe full path is ok because I'm using tab when I type it14:16
pawell-bash: /opt/android-studio/sdk/platform-tools/adb: No such file or directory         the whole path14:16
bekkswhats the output of "ls -lha /opt/android-studio/sdk/platform-tools/adb"14:16
pawell-rwxrwxrwx 1 pawel pawel 1,2M sty 17 22:31 /opt/android-studio/sdk/platform-tools/adb14:17
baizonpawell: how do you try to run it from antoher path? post the command-line pls14:20
pawellbaizon: "/opt/android-studio/sdk/platform-tools/adb"14:21
pawellanother interesting thing, when I'm in folder I write ./adb it doesn't work, when I write adb it works14:22
baizonpawell: so maybe it got installed globally14:23
bekkstype: "which adb"14:27
pawell/usr/bin/adb14:29
bekkspawell: Is /opt on a separate filesystem?14:30
pawellno14:30
pawellI have partirion for home : ext4 and partition for / : ext414:31
pawellbekks: I mean, one seperate parition for /home and one seperatre partition for /14:34
pawellbekks: but both ext4, I'm not sure what you mean but seperate filesystem14:34
bekkspawell: / is a separate filesystem, as well as /home in your case.14:36
pawellbekks: ok, is it a reason here ?14:36
bekkspawell: No.14:40
pawellThank you for your helps, the problem is cause because my system doesn't handle with 32 bit programs15:02
baizon:D15:04
bekkspawell: How did yo managed to restrict your ubuntu like that?15:07
pawellbekks: I didn't do almost anything in my ubuntu, I installed it yesterday.15:19
dna6ai lost the top bar in ubunto15:58
holsteindna6a: i usually suggest using a live CD or a new user to experiement around with the UI.. but, you can always remove the config for the user and get the default settings back.. you can also add whatever panels you like/need and do it that way16:00
Unit193!panels16:00
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/16:00
Unit193If only the top, you removed panel 0.  rm .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml16:01
dna6ai lost the bottom part also16:04
dna6alaunching  xfce4-panel didnt restore anything :/16:05
holsteindna6a: you can remove everything from the users config and get back to default.. no worries16:19
dna6a xfce4-panel16:20
dna6ai cant launch this?16:20
holsteindna6a: doesnt matter what panel.. and id say the issue isnt that you havent launched it, its that you have altered or removed it16:21
holsteindna6a: you can add them back, or keep removing the config files you have and relogging til you get the default setup16:21
dna6arm -rf ~/.cache/sessions   do i run this from console?16:21
holsteindna6a: i dont rm -rf personally16:21
holsteindna6a: i see no advantage in it.. i'll just go in and move it out of the way, and test16:22
holsteindna6a: and, you'll need to move more than that.. not just the sessions.. the config for the panel16:22
dna6ahow to logout using windows keyboard commands?16:52
holsteindna6a: if you are using ubuntu, there is a menu item16:56
holsteindna6a: in most any linux, you can go to tty, and "sudo reboot" if thats what you are trying to do16:56
holstein!tty | dna6a16:56
ubottudna6a: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution16:56
dna6aive lost the panels though16:56
dna6aim trying to fix it but i need to logout16:56
holsteindna6a: ok.. take a minute to read, and process what i have suggested above.. since that will reboot the machine and log you out and back in16:57
dna6athat fixed it17:04
dna6aill add a new user now17:04
holsteindna6a: for the record.. nothing was broken17:05
dna6awell i reverted my mistake17:07
holsteinresetting the configuration to a default state that you prefer17:07
xubuntu847How do I install Clamtk 5.0 or 5.1?18:02
cfhowlett!clam18:07
cfhowlett!clamtk18:07
cfhowlett!clamav18:08
krytarikxubuntu847: From here: http://code.google.com/p/clamtk/18:11
xubuntu847Thank you.  I'm a newbe and don't know which package to download.18:12
xubuntu847Can I install using terminal?18:13
krytarikxubuntu847: I'd use GDebi for that.18:14
xubuntu847Ok, I'll install GDebi18:16
xubuntu847I first tried the xubuntu software center for Clamtk but was way outdated.18:20
Arpad2after start the sound is muted, how can be this changed?18:34
acalbazais there a better way to manage menu items?  main menu does not want to allow me to add additional menu items.  anyone know of a fix for this?20:33
freshminthey i installed xubuntu 14.04 in a virtual box however i have problems installing the guest additions22:02
freshmintcan i do that via package manager22:03
bekksNo.22:03
freshminthmm, well installing guest box additions with host VM does not work...22:03
bekksYou have to use virtualbox 4.3.8 for being able to install the guest additions in a 14.04 guest.22:03
freshmintokay that might be it let me control my version of virtualbox22:05
freshminthmm i have 4.1.12. which comes with ubuntu 12.0422:06
freshmintcan i manually update that...22:06
bekksJust follow the installation instructions on www.virtualbox.org22:06
perseidsxubuntu runs so smooth22:07
freshmintbekks, i will try grabbing it from the web22:08
freshmintbekks, ok i got the latest virtualbox from the website, though where do i find the option to mount the guestboxiso22:18
freshmintdamn i think that is in the menu bar which is not shown in ubuntu 12.04... omg22:22
peyamhi23:18
peyamWhen is 14.04 arrived?23:18
krytarikpeyam: Planned on April 17th, also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule23:23
peyamgreat23:27
peyamRendering is a issue23:27

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