[02:34] <ahoneybun> hey valorie 
[02:37] <valorie> good evening
[02:38] <ahoneybun> same
[02:41] <ahoneybun> you took the steam info as well valorie ?
[02:42] <valorie> since I know nothing about steam, I've not touched it, no
[02:43] <valorie> since people ask about it rather frequently, I think we should have it in the docs
[02:45] <ahoneybun> well steam if out of the software section
[02:45] <ahoneybun> but other then that it is quite nice
[02:45] <valorie> hmmm, I didn't remove it
[02:45] <valorie> I might have edited for spelling or grammar back when it was on the kubuntu wiki, but haven't touched it in userbase
[02:45] <valorie> it had its own page, correct?
[02:48] <ahoneybun> well yea but it was mentioned on the software page
[02:49] <ahoneybun> who removed it
[02:50] <ahoneybun> I'll just add it back
[02:51] <valorie> oh, I might have removed the link, sorry
[02:51] <valorie> I was ripping rather radically
[02:51] <valorie> shit shouldn't have been there in the first place
[02:53] <ahoneybun> I just added it at the bottom 
[02:53] <ahoneybun> brb
[02:56] <valorie> cool
[08:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1291750] all apps full screen kubuntu 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291750 (by cpatrick08)
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:45] <Sput> ScottK: hmm, don't see you in #quassel anymore?
[14:46] <Sput> anyway, new upstream release: http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.10-rc1.tar.bz2 - it's a bit post the freezes, but we didn't change UI or strings since beta1, so should be fine
[14:50] <Riddell> Sput: that's an rc, is there a release date for final?
[14:50] <Sput> Riddell: in time for the LTS
[14:50] <Sput> couple weeks or so
[14:51] <Riddell> gosh, nice you're thinking of us :)
[14:51] <Sput> earlier if you need it, but usually ScottK was happy to get it 1-2 days before the corresponding freeze (which for Trusty should be Final Beta Freeze on 27th)
[14:52] <Sput> we've been syncing our releases with Ubuntu ever since you picked it up as a default :)
[14:59] <Riddell> Sput: any new features since beta1 ?
[14:59] <Sput> nope
[14:59] <Riddell> lovely, no beaurocracy needed then
[14:59] <Sput> on purpose :)
[14:59] <Sput> I'm quite aware of the feature freeze stuff
[15:00] <Sput> (that's also the reason I always tag a beta1 shortly before Ubuntu's freeze, and treat this as a feature freeze for Quassel as well)
[15:00] <Riddell> Sput: my girlfriend wants to know where you got the name Quassel from
[15:02] <Sput> it was basically some stupid idea we came up with when in need for a name, "quasseln" in German means "chatter"
[15:02] <Sput> and it started with a Q, which was cool for a Qt-based program
[15:03] <BluesKaj> quassel should stay frozen, might look better encased in ice :)
[15:05] <Sput> hehe
[15:05] <Sput> but that would be boring!
[15:08] <BluesKaj> i wouldn't miss it, but that's my opinion...tried it and it's ok. I'm not particularly visually oriented, but quassel is fugly 
[15:09] <Riddell> oh dear, some tact might be polite
[15:09] <Sput> I care more about functionality than looks, myself
[15:09] <Riddell> irc is not intended to be pretty, it's a geek tool
[15:10] <Sput> also I would actually agree, there's lots to be improved visual-wise, but designers are hard to find and I personally lack this talent
[15:12] <BluesKaj> this isn't meant to be personal Sput and Riddell, it's my POV , old school , for ex prefer tabs on the bottom, and the text field feels squeezed by the sidebars 
[15:13] <Sput> which are incidentally two conscious design decisions that won't change :)
[15:13] <Sput> at least not anytime soon
[15:13] <Sput> we actually played around with tabs, but that don't scale for more than a handful channels, and we never got them working well enough to offer them as an option
[15:14] <Sput> doesn't mean we'll never have them, but so far nobody seems to have been sufficiently interested to really work on it
[15:14] <BluesKaj> unfortunately mostly that's what turns me off
[15:16] <BluesKaj> anyway, stuff to do....bbl
[16:29] <jussi> BluesKaj: its only ugly because you arent using my theme. and if you are, then you are wrong :P
[16:31] <BluesKaj> jussi, wrong in this case is subjective, but no theme will fix what I find annoying about the quassel layout
[16:37] <kdeuser56> which ppa to add in order to get the proposed 4.13 packages?
[16:48] <Riddell> hmm, this signon library has overlapping files in qt4 and qt5, that explains why kdepim-runtime isn't working
[17:00] <soee_> Riddell: when 4.12.90 might be ready ?
[17:04] <Riddell> looks mostly green now http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.90_trusty.html
[17:04] <Riddell> but we need to find a testing plan to get the archive admins happy
[17:07] <kdeuser56> Riddell: Any way to get this packages installed ?
[17:08] <kdeuser56> Riddell: you wrote the packages are in kubuntu-experimental ... but I could not find them there ...
[17:08] <Riddell> kdeuser56: they're in the secret ninjas repository open to testers only, do ask if you want to be a tester
[17:09] <kdeuser56> Riddell: how can I become one?
[17:09] <Riddell> kdeuser56: asking :)
[17:09] <kdeuser56> Riddell: who?
[17:09] <Riddell> moi
[17:14] <Riddell> kdeuser56: we need people to test the new search engine baloo especially
[17:25] <BluesKaj> Riddell, new replacement for nepomuk? just curious.
[17:26] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes
[17:29] <kdeuser56> Ridell: I will do that :-)
[17:29] <kdeuser56> Riddell: as soon as I have fixed my broken packages :-)
[23:02] <ahoneybunn> hey ovidiu-florin 
[23:02] <ovidiu-florin> hey ahoneybunn
[23:03] <ahoneybunn> I like the site like it is
[23:05] <ovidiu-florin> Me to. I would only like to move the language switcher in the header. But the current theme does not allow this, so I'll have to modify it. What do you think?
[23:05] <ovidiu-florin> it's not very visible down there
[23:05] <ovidiu-florin> especially on a long page
[23:05] <ahoneybunn> the language switcher is important
[23:05] <ahoneybunn> let me try something
[23:06] <ovidiu-florin> I have to do a bit of research on that, to see how WP themes are organized
[23:06] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[23:07] <ahoneybunn> I got it in the header
[23:10] <ahoneybunn> apachelogger, remember that bar that followed you when you scroll the page?
[23:15] <ahoneybunn> ovidiu-florin, did you see it, and yes I have the slider off right now
[23:17] <ahoneybunn> apachelogger, we can turn that off
[23:22] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybunn: why did you turn off the flags?
[23:22] <ahoneybunn> I did not do that
[23:22] <ovidiu-florin> oh, it's a default
[23:22] <ovidiu-florin> I've added them
[23:22] <ahoneybunn> I was just going to lol
[23:23] <ahoneybunn> is this layout betteR?
[23:25] <ovidiu-florin> better, but IMHO not ideal.
[23:25] <ovidiu-florin> Will do untill I do my research
[23:25] <ahoneybunn> oh>
[23:25] <ovidiu-florin> do you agree?
[23:25] <ahoneybunn> ?
[23:25] <ahoneybunn> I like it but in the header it is weird
[23:26] <ovidiu-florin> I've tested most of the multilingual stuff, and it seems ok to me
[23:26] <ovidiu-florin> I know what this themes default header widget looks like (terrible)
[23:26] <ahoneybunn> yea
[23:27] <ovidiu-florin> I was thinking to put it in the header, just the flags, one next to another at the left of the RSS button
[23:27] <ahoneybunn> not sure if you can do that
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> You can, but you have to modify the theme for that
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> it's doable
[23:30] <ovidiu-florin> but it will take some time for me to research how the WP themes work.
[23:30] <ovidiu-florin> unfortuanetly I don't have the time right now
[23:37] <Riddell> nice website guys
[23:37] <Riddell> who did the Turkish translation?
[23:37] <Riddell> what else needs to be done before launching?
[23:37] <ovidiu-florin> Google Translate
[23:37] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: any reason for Turkish?
[23:38] <ovidiu-florin> Volkan
[23:38]  * ryanakca_ looks forward to seeing this website
[23:38] <ryanakca_> I don't think the current one has been updated since Ofir did it in 2010 (I may be mistaken)...
[23:39] <Riddell> ryanakca: hardly at all
[23:42] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I'm not sure what else needs to be done, besides migrating the articles