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| Roey | hey all | 01:50 |
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| Roey | using atop I see that for a large btrfs replication I am getting a read rate from the SSD of only 21 MB/s. Why is this so slow?? | 01:50 |
| Beryl | oh jesus why is X using 14.3GB of memory | 03:02 |
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| Beryl | Anyone have an idea why kwin blows up to tens of GB of ram and crashes X when I run some opengl programs but not others? | 04:07 |
| Beryl | I'm almost certain it's my graphics drivers... latest nvidia, I don't have this happen on fglrx | 04:08 |
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| abirvalg | irc is live? | 05:58 |
| abirvalg | russkie sushestvuyut?:) | 05:59 |
| Beryl | Hahaha, I'm running kubuntu with openbox instead of kwin, I have no clue why I have done this. | 07:30 |
| rww | i've done that a few times. works pretty well, though i prefer kwin | 07:33 |
| Beryl | Runs quick, a lot of quirks though, no major issues | 07:33 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:54 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:03 |
| FlowRiser | Hey, BluesKaj ^^ How are you? | 11:04 |
| BluesKaj | hi FlowRiser, fine thanks, and you? | 11:04 |
| FlowRiser | Awesome, checking out Kde Gsoc Ideas | 11:04 |
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| cesar_ferreira | hello | 12:48 |
| Shaarad | Hello | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | hi Shaarad | 12:55 |
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| Shaarad | Does anyone know how to make command line interface like cmus music player? | 13:20 |
| Shaarad | I downloaded the cmus source from git hub but I couldn't find precise documentation about the code | 13:21 |
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| BluesKaj | Shaarad, you could have just installed with muon, it's in the repos | 13:28 |
| Shaarad | BluesKaj I actually want to modify the code so as to use it for different purpose.. But I wanted the similar interface | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | Shaarad, perhaps searching for cmus documentation in the 'buntu forums might help you | 13:39 |
| Shaarad | Okay BluesKaj, because the wiki on git hub wasn't sufficient | 13:40 |
| lordievader | Shaarad: Isn't the documentation IN the code? Usually programmers use inline comments (if they don't use the excuse of "my code doesn't need commenting"). | 13:43 |
| Shaarad | No lordievader, there aren't in line comments | 13:45 |
| lordievader | Hmm, I see. main.c doesn't contain a lot of comments. I guess they found the code too straight-forward to comment on. | 13:48 |
| Shaarad | So how will the Ubuntu forums help as suggested by BluesKaj? | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | guess you have to search thru them to find out | 13:52 |
| Shaarad | Okay, thanks all :) | 13:52 |
| ari__ | hi | 14:12 |
| lordievader | Hey ari__ | 14:12 |
| dougl | morning ladies and gents :) | 14:14 |
| Aris | Hi | 14:14 |
| lordievader | Hey dougl | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | hey dougl | 14:17 |
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| dougl | what are we learning today... if I plan on being distracted maybe I wont be and not be late for church :) | 14:18 |
| ari__ | hello everybody | 14:20 |
| ari__ | i waan talk about bohdi | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | we wouldn't want you to be late for church dougl, God forbid :) | 14:20 |
| ari__ | bodhi | 14:20 |
| dougl | cli music player = mpg123? but I don't really know what you need... | 14:20 |
| dougl | lol | 14:20 |
| ari__ | noone wants to talk to me | 14:24 |
| donix | brand new to linux on pc, have updated to latest version of kubuntu, and upgrades | 14:24 |
| ari__ | i am a ggod girl though | 14:24 |
| dougl | ari__, i got 10 min | 14:24 |
| zzzqqqggg | hello | 14:24 |
| zzzqqqggg | anyone here? | 14:24 |
| donix | kde plasma app doesnt load on lgin, and crashes when i try to load from taskbar | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | ari__, try #bodhilinux | 14:24 |
| dougl | BBL | 14:33 |
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| daum | hey guys -i'm trying to setup raid1 on my machine however i don't see the option to say us as raid for the file system | 14:58 |
| daum | i have the 13.10 kubuntu burned to my usb drive | 14:59 |
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| daum | anyone around that can help with getting raid 1 setup? | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | !raid | daum | 17:03 |
| ubottu | daum: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 17:03 |
| daum | BluesKaj, so i was trying to use kubuntu but it doesn't seem to have the raid option when you do manual like most of those guides say. so then i tried to do just automatic then followed http://foivos.zakkak.net/tuts/ubuntu_1304_raid1_setup however now when i reboot to the temp grub profile i get that it can't find the md\1 device | 17:06 |
| daum | and can't load the kernel | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | daum, maybe the ppl at #ubuntu can help, since the type of desktop shouldn't affect the raid setup | 17:10 |
| daum | ok will try there too | 17:10 |
| daum | is it easy to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu? | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | yes, install kubuntu-desktop, then you can switch between ubuntu and kubuntu at login | 17:49 |
| daum | ah perfect, ubuntu seems to have raid built into their installer now days | 17:49 |
| daum | so will install with that then make the switch | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | daum, your appls menu will have alot of duplication, apps that do the same thing on both desktopstho | 17:51 |
| daum | ah ok will try to find a guide to remove all the dupe appes | 17:51 |
| tigerden | But isn't KDE a bit slower than unity?? | 17:52 |
| daum | i've always liked kde way better (am actually switching from gentoo now) | 17:52 |
| daum | brb | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | tigerden, I found the opposite | 17:54 |
| tigerden | UI wise KDE is always better, no doubt | 17:54 |
| BluesKaj | tigerden, I get rid of or disable apps that I never use | 17:54 |
| tigerden | Okay BluesKaj nice idea | 17:55 |
| BluesKaj | nepomuk and akonadi server for example, if you don't use the PIM apps | 17:55 |
| tigerden | Maybe adding ghost theme and enabling all UI effects has slowed my machine down a bit ;) | 17:55 |
| dougl | :P | 17:56 |
| tigerden | But for real speed I have arch with LXDE | 17:58 |
| BluesKaj | nepomuk and akonadi can't be uninstalled without removing kubuntu-desktop, unfortunately, altho when I was testing opensuse 13.1I was able to remove them without losing the kde desktop | 17:59 |
| tigerden | I think there should be a minimalistic version with same UI but only bare minimum apps | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | still didn't make me an opensuse convert tho...not real impressed with their package management | 18:00 |
| tigerden | I have no idea about suse.. Never used | 18:01 |
| Roey | never sused suse? | 18:01 |
| BluesKaj | tigerden, agreed , I've been lobbying for soething similar, but it's fallen on deaf ears | 18:01 |
| Roey | oh hi BluesKaj | 18:01 |
| BluesKaj | hi Roey | 18:01 |
| tigerden | Nope.. I have used Ubuntu variants and arch.. Also raspbian | 18:02 |
| BluesKaj | thought arch would be an interesting OS, the most interesting part was the install. Using it didn't do much for me | 18:04 |
| tigerden | Yup.. That feeling when you finally see the desktop :D | 18:04 |
| tigerden | I have installed it on a 32gig flash drive which contains other OS isos for emergency | 18:05 |
| Roey | Though I understand this portmanteau, "Raspbian" sounds to me like an operating system for Soviet researchers | 18:09 |
| Roey | just wanted to put that out there. | 18:09 |
| Roey | tigerden: ^ | 18:09 |
| tigerden | Haha why so?? | 18:10 |
| Roey | because it reminds me of Rasputin? | 18:11 |
| Roey | raspb- | 18:11 |
| Roey | that, probably | 18:11 |
| tigerden | Oh yeah! True! | 18:11 |
| Roey | raspBIAn <=> raspUTIn | 18:11 |
| Roey | or not Soviet, Czarist Russia, rather | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | been thinking about a raspberry pi setup once my old HTPC dies, but the HP desktop just keeps chugging along | 18:12 |
| Roey | BluesKaj: for what purposes do you see using raspbian? | 18:12 |
| Roey | specifically your usage of it | 18:12 |
| Roey | i.e. whatcha gonna do with it? | 18:12 |
| ikonia | chaps, maybe #kubuntu-offtopic for this conversation would be best please ? | 18:12 |
| BluesKaj | not raspian per se, Roey , just a simple setup as a media center | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | right now kubuntu 13.10 does the job nicely | 18:13 |
| Roey | BluesKaj: aha | 18:21 |
| Roey | ikonia: aye | 18:21 |
| Roey | BluesKaj: do you have experience with btrfs? | 18:22 |
| BluesKaj | Roey, nope | 18:24 |
| dougl | I do raspian | 18:24 |
| Roey | ah ok | 18:25 |
| BluesKaj | !btrfs | 18:26 |
| ubottu | Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | Roey,^ | 18:26 |
| Roey | well yes | 18:27 |
| dougl | I want raspbuntu for my dog's pi... | 18:28 |
| * dougl <grins> | 18:29 | |
| * BluesKaj wonders if mixed file systems can be used on a sib=ngle install btrfs for / and ext4 for /home and swap | 18:38 | |
| BluesKaj | single install | 18:38 |
| BluesKaj | swap isn't ext, my mistake | 18:47 |
| RGee | Hi guys! Just ported to Kubuntu. Just wanted to know how different is kubuntu from ubuntu expect for the fact that this uses kde? | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | RGee, both use the ubuntu core, the desktops and apps are different altho gtk and kde apps can run either one | 18:49 |
| RGee | Hmm.. but the config files for both will be same, right? (the one not depending on kde) | 18:51 |
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| BluesKaj | each app has it's own config file, and some are common to both desktops like pulseaudio for example | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | RGee, did you have a particular app in mind ? | 18:55 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Not really. Suppose, I want to modify something in lightdm.conf... So, I look up for a solution which is based on ubuntu. So, I just wanted to clarify that will it be the same for kubuntu? | 18:57 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Pardon me. I'm pretty new to Linux. | 18:57 |
| BluesKaj | RGee, well i guess that depends on what you want to mod in the conf file since both OSs use a different default page for lightdm and I'm guessing that the ubuntu lightdm login page will remain the default if you installed ubuntu first | 19:01 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Hmm... My main concern was the forum support for ubuntu is much better than that for kubuntu. So, basically wanted to ask whether they would work blindly in kubuntu or not. But I guess, it would work, but not blindly. | 19:03 |
| BluesKaj | what are you trying to change in the conf file and why ? | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | ubuntu also consists of 3 desktops, kubuntu just one | 19:06 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Nothing particularly at the moment. But in the morning I wanted to disable guest login. So, I figured that works for *buntu | 19:06 |
| BluesKaj | supported desktops that is | 19:06 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: desktops as in? | 19:06 |
| BluesKaj | unity, gnome, and cinnamon | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | afaik at least, I haven't spent much time there in the last few months since kubuntu is now supported officially by blue systems | 19:08 |
| BluesKaj | I'm talking about the ubuntu support channel | 19:11 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Hmm... What do you use on your system, if you don't mind? | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | what do i use ? , I installed kubuntu which uses the kde desktop | 19:13 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Oh.. Pardon me, I'm new to all this. | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | !flavours | 19:14 |
| ubottu | !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu. | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | RGee,^ | 19:14 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: This I knew. :) | 19:16 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Have you used Debian? | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | ok good | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | yes, i started with debian as my first serious linux install about 11 yrs ago, a yr or so later switched to kubuntu, never cared for the debian root permission setup | 19:18 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: I hear ubuntu is based on debian. Is it correct? | 19:19 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | being an old windows guy I was attracted to the kde desktop and layout | 19:20 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Oh yeah. I started using ubuntu about 2 years ago. Was on unity for a while. Switched to gnome. Used that for quite some time. I loved that. But then it was too simple. And now on kubuntu. | 19:22 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: So, how is ubuntu different from debian? | 19:22 |
| BluesKaj | !debian | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 19:24 |
| dougl | good chat! | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | dougl, some of that monitors might disagree :) | 19:27 |
| dougl | ... if I could but in, as you learn what is kde and what is gnome you will know what source to use generally.... and now we know why I have those wild problems | 19:27 |
| dougl | lol | 19:28 |
| dougl | debian is off topic! | 19:28 |
| dougl | RGee, how long on linux? | 19:29 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: I'm sorry if I did something which I'm not supposed to do. | 19:29 |
| dougl | I do that | 19:29 |
| dougl | you are all good | 19:30 |
| RGee | dougl: around 2 years. | 19:30 |
| BluesKaj | most gnome stuff will run on kde and vice versa, at least it used to do so...and debian is the father of all 'buntus | 19:30 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Yeah, I read that link. Good read :) | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | but the debian apps aren't written for any ubuntu flavours | 19:31 |
| dougl | the support for ubuntu is awesome... I have even used debian packages in ubuntu installs. | 19:31 |
| RGee | BluesKaj: Instead Ubuntu takes the debian packages forward and supply to the main crowd? | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | that can cause problems | 19:32 |
| dougl | :) | 19:32 |
| BluesKaj | any debian app has an ubuntu/flavour equivalent afaik | 19:33 |
| BluesKaj | I haven't tried debian in very long time | 19:34 |
| dougl | the one I am thinking of was synergy... | 19:34 |
| RGee | How long does it generally take for a new kubuntu release after an new ubuntu release? | 19:34 |
| BluesKaj | and have no desire to, think the permissions are wierd and I got frustarated having to constantly enter my pw, probly because I didn't understand how to use kwallet , which I stll avoid :) | 19:36 |
| RGee | What exactly is kwallet? | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | RGee, usually the same schedule | 19:36 |
| RGee | Hmm. | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | !kwallet | 19:36 |
| ubottu | kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet | 19:36 |
| RGee | Oh.. | 19:37 |
| RGee | !help | 19:37 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 19:37 |
| RGee | !patience | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ | 19:38 |
| RGee | !irc | 19:38 |
| ubottu | A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines | 19:38 |
| RGee | !firefox | 19:38 |
| ubottu | firefox is the default web browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion | To install plugins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins | 19:38 |
| RGee | !dell | 19:38 |
| BluesKaj | ok RGee so you've learned how to invoke the infobot ...enough already | 19:39 |
| RGee | This bot is awesome! | 19:39 |
| RGee | Haha! :D | 19:39 |
| Unit193 | !msgthebot | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | you can look the info up for various apps on the muon package manager search | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | RGee,^ | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | thanks Unit193 | 19:40 |
| RGee | Thanks! | 19:40 |
| RGee | What all kinds of bots do we have here? | 19:41 |
| BluesKaj | just one bot that has access to the info | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj | ok, these old eyes need a rest... laters | 19:45 |
| mhumm2 | I need some help | 20:00 |
| mark____ | hello test | 20:09 |
| mark____ | Okay. I need some help... | 20:10 |
| mark____ | is anybody here? | 20:11 |
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| mark____ | quit | 20:12 |
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| mhumm61 | I need some help with kubuntuforums.net | 20:27 |
| mhumm61 | I need a good email address for one of the moderators. | 20:27 |
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