[00:01] <daftykins> charco: did you enable the option ROM in BIOS?
[00:03] <charco> daftykins, option rom? I have a SATA Configuration >> SATA Mode Selection >> RAID
[00:03] <charco> daftykins, my disk came with a raid0 setup but I messed up :(
[00:03] <ejuan> charco, whats your motherboard model number
[00:04] <charco> ejuan, it's a notebook (ux301LA) how can I check?
[00:04] <daftykins> sounds like a fakeraid
[00:04] <daftykins> either way you'd want to put Windows on first, naturally
[00:05] <daftykins> is it one of those silly 2 x SSD's ones?
[00:05] <charco> Yep
[00:05] <charco> daftykins, all the tutorials said otherwise :/
[00:05] <charco> like "first setup linux and then windows"
[00:05] <charco> create the raid from linux and then install windows
[00:06] <charco> I used mdadm to create the raid, but in some tutorials it used the raid only for some partitions, I'd rather have the whole disks in raid.
[00:06] <daftykins> lol RAID inside Linux, how cute
[00:06] <daftykins> charco: nope that's an incredibly terrible idea
[00:06] <daftykins> are they small SSDs so you want to RAID to pool the capacity?
[00:07] <charco> daftykins, exactly
[00:07] <ejuan> charco, your probably better off just installing ubuntu on one disk and windows on the other
[00:07] <pdo_fn14> RobDude: I'm still beginner user, would you classified clearly about fstab?. I'm still confused about "<file system> <mount point> <type> <options>  <dump>  <pass>" in fstab file?
[00:08] <ron__> Hi, I was wondering if there was a system wide audio equalizer for Ubuntu 14.04. I did try PulseAudio Equalizer, added the PPA however when trying to install it I got a error saying package could not be found.
[00:08] <daftykins> install Windows, load up a LiveCD, do things to support RAID until you see one disk instead of two - install, done \o/
[00:08] <daftykins> !trusty | ron__
[00:09] <ron__> !trusty
[00:09] <charco> ejuan, I don't want to have that much space to linux. Also, I thought that there was also a performance improvement in having raid0 :P
[00:09] <daftykins> ron__: see the other channel mentioned? ask in there.
[00:09] <ron__> I am sorry. I'm so new to all of this. Especially iRc.
[00:10]  * daftykins unloads the spud gun
[00:10] <daftykins> ok - this time.
[00:10] <ron__> I am attempting to transition from Windows and use Ubuntu as my daily driver. I apologize for the ignorance.
[00:10] <charco> daftykins, so I can just install windows in one partition from one disk and then configure linux to understand that as a raid?
[00:10] <RobDude> pdo_fn14:  No problem - check out this link - https://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-mounting-without-sudo/ - the fstab file is your 'file system table' and it will mount partitions on startup (at least, that's my understanding) - but that blog has an example.
[00:10] <charco> (sorry, I don't understand :( )
[00:11] <daftykins> charco: ok so you had the controller option set to RAID, have you since tried to power off fully then cold boot to see if you get the (presumably intel) RAID config screen? to configure RAID 0
[00:12] <daftykins> charco: it may even be hidden on that laptop so just pressing the key combo repeatedly after power on might get somewhere
[00:12] <charco> I have disabled EFI because it would go directly to BIOS after booting, I'm trying with the legacy mode to see if I can get anywhere
[00:13] <daftykins> charco: it would appear the Asus' BIOS automatically sets up RAID 0 - so if you booted a windows install disc now, it would likely see the combined volume of both SSDs as one disk - you're going to need to check that
[00:14] <ron__> You were talking about the #ubuntu+1 channel correct?
[00:14] <charco> daftykins, ok, I will try that.. I have to burn the iso to a usb
[00:14] <charco> Thank you :)
[00:14] <daftykins> ron__: yes, join it
[00:14] <charco> I don't really care about windows, I need to have it installed somewhere haha, I don't even care if it is not in the raid
[00:14] <ron__> okay I am there. not much activity. I will hang out for a response. thanks
[00:15] <daftykins> charco: well... you don't have any other storage
[00:15] <daftykins> charco: a RAID setup is done to the entirity of both SSDs - it's not something you pick and choose for partitions (you can, but it's just plain stupid)
[00:16] <charco> daftykins, yeah, I thought so, but in the ubuntu tutorial they create it in individual partitions :/
[00:16] <mikodo> Hey, Quick question: if correct path to a device partition is /dev/sda12 and I want to use the UUID for transfer of data to that partition, would it be /dev/UUID  ?
[00:16] <The_Woodsman> does anyone know of a program that can take in a text file full of grayscale values and display an image?
[00:16] <charco> Ok.. I have to get a windows computer in order to create the usb installer for windows. Fuck you windows.
[00:16] <daftykins> charco: sounds like you're just following a guide for the wrong thing
[00:17] <daftykins> charco: please don't use rudes here! :)
[00:17] <charco> sorry :P
[00:17] <daftykins> mikodo: run "sudo blkid" to get UUIDs
[00:17] <daftykins> mikodo: may not even need sudo
[00:17] <charco> this is the one I read that used partitions for the raid http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[00:17] <daftykins> oh wait i may've jumped the gun
[00:17] <mikodo> daftykins, I have used blkid, I just want to write out the command correctly
[00:18] <daftykins> mikodo: how many times are you going to perform this copy? :)
[00:19] <mikodo> daftykins, not much for this,
[00:20] <mikodo> daftykins, when I make a symblink to my /mnt then should I definately use the UUID?
[00:21] <daftykins> mikodo: if you're mounting this device permanently then you'd have it in /etc/fstab
[00:21] <daftykins> i don't understand what you're struggling with i'm afraid :)
[00:21] <mikodo> daftykins, correct with fstab, but should i use the UUID
[00:21] <daftykins> sure
[00:22] <the8thbit> I want to make a file executable ONLY by the root user. chmod +x makes it executable, but how do I restrict it to root?
[00:22] <daftykins> you realise why the choice right?
[00:22] <mikodo> daftykins, incase things change?
[00:22] <daftykins> UUIDs are to preserve mounts even if disk numbering change due to unplugging / replugging
[00:22] <daftykins> so if you see that happening - UUIDs, if not, partitions
[00:22] <mikodo> daftykins, Thanks buddy! over and out!
[00:23] <daftykins> ^_^
[00:23] <teward> the8thbit, use numeric chmod
[00:24] <RobDude> the8thbit:  I think you'll want to use the 'octal' form.  I think it would be chmod 100 if root is the file owner - but I'm a n0ob
[00:24] <teward> the8thbit, what do you want the file restricted to?  root only?  then do: `chown root:root /path/to/file` and `chmod 700`
[00:24] <RobDude> er sorry - nevermind
[00:24] <teward> the8thbit, no other users will be able to see it then.
[00:24] <RobDude> I don't know what I'm talking about - sorry
[00:24] <daftykins> *600 would suffice
[00:24] <teward> daftykins, 600 adds the +x bit?
[00:25] <teward> they want read/write/execute for root only
[00:25] <the8thbit> teward: What do you mean by 'see'?
[00:25] <daftykins> sec lemme wind the handle on my brain a bit more
[00:25] <teward> the8thbit, by "see" i mean that users won't be able to access the specific file
[00:25] <the8thbit> ah okay
[00:25] <the8thbit> thanks
[00:25] <teward> daftykins, 600 is read/write, but i thought 700 was read/write/exec
[00:25] <teward> daftykins, (for file owner)
[00:26] <the8thbit> teward: I don't understand the root:root notation
[00:26] <daftykins> ah actually 500 i'm thinking
[00:26] <teward> the8thbit, it just changes the owner so that only root owns the file
[00:26] <daftykins> r,,x = 4 + 1 = 5
[00:26] <teward> the8thbit, in the off-chance that `root` doesn't already own the file
[00:26] <teward> daftykins, ahhh, right, read/execute would be sufficient.  700 if they want to also be able to edit, but I forgot that for a minute
[00:27] <the8thbit> teward: Yes, but why do you put 'root:root' instead of just 'root'? Sorry, trying to understand the syntax so I can understand chmod more generally rather than just the one command
[00:27] <daftykins> teward: :) i don't know if any quirks would come up without write though, guess it depends on the file
[00:27] <daftykins> the8thbit: user:group
[00:27] <the8thbit> ah, okay
[00:27] <teward> the8thbit, because there is a 'root' group as well.  user:group is the notation.
[00:27] <the8thbit> thanks dafty
[00:27] <teward> the8thbit, root:root = root user and root group
[00:27] <the8thbit> thanks teward
[00:27] <daftykins> the8thbit: although interestingly if both are to be the same, one need only write "user:"
[00:27] <teward> ^
[00:27] <teward> daftykins, although i love the verbosity of defining it by hand :)
[00:28] <teward> (like root:root)
[00:28] <daftykins> :)
[00:28] <daftykins> no harm in being sure!
[00:28] <teward> truth
[00:28] <the8thbit> so if I already issued chmod +x then currently the file is executable by everyone? Does doing chmod root:root 700 restrict it to root, or does it just add root as having permissions?
[00:29] <teward> the8thbit, 700 restricts it to root
[00:29] <the8thbit> okay, thanks!
[00:29] <teward> the8thbit, assuming you also change the file's owners like i said in the first of the 2 commands, so that only root owns it.
[00:30] <teward> the8thbit, you could also, probably, use 500 instead of 700, which is read and execute, but i said 700 in case you want root to also be able to modify the file.  daftykins is right that 500 (instead of 700) should also be sufficient for what you need.
[00:31] <the8thbit> ohh, they're two different commands
[00:31] <daftykins> the8thbit: as you run commands, keep confirming the changes by watching "ls -l" in the folder the file's in - you'll be able to see how things are and how they change
[00:31] <the8thbit> Yeah, 700 is better for me
[00:32] <RobDude> This might be a stupid question but - for things like chmod - they are all the same in all the distros, right?
[00:33] <the8thbit> thanks, ls -l helped
[00:33] <teward> RobDude, some things aren't different between distros (like chmod) but you can't be certain of that for all distros
[00:37] <RobDude> teward:  Thanks.
[00:38] <RobDude> But if I get the source code for the ubuntu distro from git - it'd be included in there, right?
[00:38] <RobDude> Or is it just the kernel
[00:40] <daftykins> 'source code for a distro' heh
[00:40] <RobDude> daftykins:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode
[00:40] <daftykins> RobDude: every single package that makes it up, plus the kernel source maybe ;)
[00:40] <daftykins> RobDude: i do not need to be taught what kernel source code is my good man
[00:41] <RobDude> I was just pasting the link to illustrate what I was referring to
[00:41] <RobDude> Not implying you needed to be taught.  I'm just a humble n0ob
[00:43] <iam> What is the fastest flavour of ubuntu?
[00:44] <naryfa> Ubuntu XP
[00:44] <naryfa> ;)
[00:44] <naryfa> Try Xubuntu
[00:46] <jasabella> um, im trying to install ubuntu via pxe/netboot, im getting arp timeouts
[00:46] <jasabella> also, what files do i need for this? :)
[00:49] <daftykins> !pxe
[00:49] <daftykins> d'aww
[00:49] <daftykins> iam: Lubuntu would be lightest of all
[00:52] <pdo_fn14> daftykins: Do you ever using Xubuntu variants?.
[00:52] <daftykins> pdo_fn14: no
 Hi fixed my keyboard layout...butwhen I punch in my password now, it's notrecognised. I wasn't running as root - just a normaluser. How can I change my passwd to something recognisable under the new keyboard layout? Please?
[01:01] <daftykins> basil60: boot to recovery mode then use root to change your user's password
[01:01] <Beldar> basil60, You can just reset it. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[01:02] <basil60> Ok...I'll try that
[01:02] <basil60> cheers
[01:02] <daftykins> a fine repeat of what i said
[01:02] <daftykins> \o/
[01:03] <jaygatsby7> does anyone know how you can tell if trim is working in trusty?
[01:03] <Ibuprofen> i have a handful of environment variables i want to add prior to a start-stop-daemon command, i cant seem to figure out the correct way to do this without it thinking im trying to run a command
how do i slow it down to be quick enough to select my option?
[01:04] <Ibuprofen> if i simply do a VAR=foo start-stop-daemon everying works as intended. when i try to set the vars earlier in the script and do a $VARS start-stop-daemon it tries to execute the variable
[01:04] <Ibuprofen> is there a way around this?
[01:04] <nsmith> Hi all, does anyone know of any good android developer channels.
[01:04] <daftykins> off topic.
[01:05] <Beldar> basil60, use the shift key to get the grub menu right after powering on.
[01:05] <daftykins> jaygatsby7: i wouldn't worry about it so much, you'd know if it became a problem
[01:05] <nsmith> Sorry I'm developing on Ubuntu 12.04
[01:05] <basil60> cheers
[01:06] <Beldar> !bots
[01:06] <jaygatsby7> daftykins, shouldn't there be a cron log?
[01:06] <Beldar> nsmith^^^^
[01:06] <daftykins> jaygatsby7: dunno
[01:07] <daftykins> jaygatsby7: well, if the kernel has support it should be telling the drive after every delete - so no need to have a manually scheduled 'hack' i'd have thought - don't know for sure though
[01:11] <nsmith> WHOIS Beldar
[01:11] <DJ> I have a seto of constants that I want to load into multiple scripts, something lile: use constant {...} How do I do the same set in all, if I put them in a require file then the file-level scoping kills me
[01:12] <hickcock> Beldar caste is the occupational caste of India, who mainly works as navvies. The term Beldar means a person one who carries a hoe. In Beldar community, generally, the entire family participates in the construction work. Interestingly, several Beldars are nomadic by nature and are shifting from one place to another, looking for construction work at
[01:12] <hickcock>  different sites. Few members of the Beldar community are also engaged in vegetable and fruit selling occupation. Beldar caste is a Hindu caste and they are largely found throughout the provinces of northern India mainly Madhya pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. They speak a dialect of Hindi language. Beldar caste is also found in almost all the districts
[01:12] <hickcock> of the state of Maharashtra,Madhya pradesh and Rajasthan. Beldar caste is further divided into a number of smaller sub-casts.
[01:12] <Beldar> heh, close
[01:14] <HostileUser> quit bye
[01:14] <puff> Beldar: Doing boot-repair now.
[01:15] <nsmith> Hi all, does anyone know of any good android developer channels.
[01:15] <puff> nsmith: Just #android-developer
[01:16] <puff> nsmith: Actually that's #android-dev
[01:16] <nsmith> Thank you puff most helpfull
[01:19] <angela-> hi all does anyone know wen thenew ubuntu coms oaut?
[01:20] <Beldar> !trusty
[01:20] <puff> Beldar: thanks, looks like boot-repair did its magic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7099028/
[01:20] <angela-> oke thanks
[01:20] <puff> Beldar: Rebooting now...
[01:28] <puff> Beldar: Okay, that worked okay for ubuntu, although it put my primary ubuntu install deep in the middle of the menu.  Any way to edit that?
[01:28] <puff> Beldar: And it seemed to set up centos, rebooting to see if centos comes up okay.
[01:29] <Beldar> puff, You in that ubuntu right now?
[01:31] <BALTA00> !es
[01:31] <puff> Beldar: Yeah, I was.
[01:32] <puff> Beldar: I'm in centos now, so I guess centos works okay too.
[01:32] <puff> Beldar: Rebooting into ubuntu (I've had enough centos for one night :-).
[01:32] <Beldar> puff, You have two HD's and multiple linux installs on, which ubuntu is it?
[01:33] <Beldar> puff, At least the bootinfo shows multiple installs
[01:34] <puff> Beldar: /dev/sdb5 is the one I'm in now, which I want to be the primary, the default that is booted.
[01:35] <puff> Beldar: /dev/sdba is the hard disk, I installed an ssd as /dev/sdb and that's where the primary ubuntu and the centos are installed.
[01:35] <Beldar> puff, run sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ; sudo update-grub    That puts that ubuntu's grub loader in the sdb mbr, if you boot from that HD that sdb5 will be at the top of the grub menu.
[01:36] <puff> Beldar: ...and then put the SSD first in the bios boot order?
[01:36] <Beldar> puff, There is no sdba, you have sda 500 gigs sdb 250 gigs HD's
[01:37] <Beldar> puff, yes sdb is the boot first HD under this fix.
[01:37] <Beldar> any other bootable OS's should be under thew sdb5 install in the menu
[01:38] <Beldar> the*
[01:38] <BALTA00> How can i make more fast my Firefox on Linux Mint? When i scroll down seems some slow.
[01:38] <puff> Beldar: Whoops, /dev/sdba was a typo.
[01:38] <puff> Beldar: Thanks.
[01:38] <Beldar> BALTA00, You want help in a mint channel is all.
[01:39] <Beldar> puff, Figured as such, but did not want to miss it's inclusion is all.
[01:41] <Beldar> BALTA00, There is a #firefox channel however.
[01:41] <Roey> hey all
[01:41] <BALTA00> Thanks :)
[01:41] <Roey> using atop I see that for a large btrfs replication I am getting a read rate from the SSD of only 21 MB/s
[01:42] <Beldar> puff, So that grub-install command run in any ubuntu and many linux installs gives that OS the grub control.
[01:47] <puff> Beldar: Cool.
[01:49] <ferfnerf> Hey, I'm running a multiboot LiveUSB of 10.04 (for compatibility). When I try to install LinuxCNC, I get a problem when it runs update-initramfs.
[01:49] <Roey> using atop I see that for a large btrfs replication I am getting a read rate from the SSD of only 21 MB/s
[01:50] <Roey> why is it so slow?
[01:50] <ferfnerf> It tries to create a file /cdrom/casper/initrd.gz.new, when because of multiboot it should be creating it in cdrom/multiboot/lubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386/casper/ instead.
[01:50] <ferfnerf> My question is, where is it getting that casper/ location, and can I change it so everything goes in the right location?
[01:51] <ThomasBS> Anyone figured out a way to get pass the stuck "SYSLINUX 4.07 EDD COPYRIGHT (...)" line when installing ubuntu server on an old HP laptop? Found tons of links and tried several things.. Im almost giving up :(
[01:52] <Oog> im using wkhtmltopdf to render html on Ubuntu 13.10 (no gnome/gui etc) - any advice on getting antialiasing to work in the rendering?
[01:53] <Oog> the code im using antialiases on osx
[01:53] <Oliver21> Hello Can someone help me with UBUNTU?
[01:53] <Oliver21> I am desperate
[01:54] <Oog> Oliver21: what is the question
[01:54] <ferfnerf> Uh, I'm pretty newby myself, but yea try and posting your problem.
[01:55] <Oliver21> Ok bare with me. I installed Ubuntu on my Nokia Booklet 3G and deleted windows completly
[01:55] <Oliver21> and now I cannot boot from USB cause of what i wrote in the root
[01:56] <Oliver21> Im also new to mirc, just downloaded it to get help
[02:00] <ferfnerf> Oliver21, if I'm understanding this... Did you delete Windows on purpose? Is the laptop itself not booting, therefore you are trying to boot it with USB?
[02:00] <cidiacctec12> Hi!
[02:01] <charco> daftykins, I'm back
[02:01] <ferfnerf> Haloo.
[02:02] <charco> daftykins, it looks like the windows installer doesn't recognize the raid disks :/
[02:02] <cidiacctec12> i have a question about ..
[02:02] <daftykins> charco: so the partition screen sees two disks?
[02:02] <charco> daftykins, yep
[02:03] <cidiacctec12> create virtual ports COM (SERIAL)
[02:03] <daftykins> charco: you're definitely on RAID in the setup still yes?
[02:03] <charco> Do you know if Intel RST has anything to do with this? (i'm downloading the driver and putting it into the usb)
[02:03] <charco> Yes
[02:03] <daftykins> charco: not off hand, but that's definitely a good call
[02:04] <daftykins> charco: really, the typical way is for it to be created prior to the OS seeing it, so if it wasn't seen right by now it won't be ;x
[02:04] <cidiacctec12> ^^!
[02:04] <cidiacctec12> thank!
[02:05] <klone> knock knock
any whitehats in the channel?</P>
[02:06] <daftykins> klone: this channel is for support only, unless you have a question please leave
[02:07] <charco> daftykins, so how can I create the raid before the os seeing it? I tried with mdadm but it doesn't get saved or anything
[02:07] <cidiacctec12> Any know to speak spanish?
[02:07] <daftykins> !es | cidiacctec12
[02:07] <charco> cidiacctec12, yo
[02:07] <charco> cidiacctec12, que pasa?
[02:07] <cidiacctec12> Hola charco
[02:08] <cidiacctec12> mi estimado, disculpa xciakso sabras como crear puertos virtuales
[02:08] <cidiacctec12> COM (SERIAL)
[02:08] <charco> he wants to create virtual ports (COM). What are that?
[02:08] <charco> (I'm translating cidiacctec12 )
[02:09] <cidiacctec12> i need create ports virtual for a projet
[02:09] <daftykins> pass
[02:10] <cidiacctec12> thank for all, i need to go out
[02:10] <charco> daftykins, So what should I do? I don't know how to configure my raid :/
[02:10] <cidiacctec12> see you later!
[02:10] <cidiacctec12> thank
[02:10] <charco> bye cidiacctec12
[02:10] <cidiacctec12> thank charco
[02:11] <Guest97626> cidiacctec12 y charco: I found a english guid https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualSerialPort
[02:11] <charco> Guest97626, thanks but I think he's gone :(
[02:12] <daftykins> charco: how big are each SSD?
[02:12] <charco> daftykins, 128GB
[02:12] <charco> But I don't want to havemore than 80GB for windows
[02:12] <daftykins> here's your solution then
[02:13] <daftykins> leave it as two drives, partition 80GB of one SSD for windows, then install ubuntu's / partition to the 20GB remaining but its' /home to the full size of the second SSD
[02:14] <charco> but I think that the idea of having raid 0 was to have a performance gain
[02:14] <daftykins> with SSDs it's a complete joke
[02:14] <daftykins> they're going to be fast no matter what
[02:15] <charco> but I want to see if there's an speedup or a difference or something
[02:18] <EndymionM> Hi, how can I move the launcher in Unity 2d to the bottom of the screen?
[02:20] <Beldar> EndymionM, there is a ctrl-alt click on the panel for prefs I think
[02:20] <Beldar> not sure a move the panel though
[02:21] <Beldar> EndymionM, This the unity panel on the left, or the top in the fallback?
[02:22] <EndymionM> Beldar: The one on the left.  The one that should be a taskbar.
[02:22] <Beldar> EndymionM, There was a hack at one tome, nothing really around now.
[02:22] <Beldar> time*
[02:23] <Guest97626> EndymionM: You could try cario-dock
[02:23] <Guest97626> EndymionM: *Cairo-dock:
[02:23] <newhoa> I'm using ddrescue, running a second pass on bad sectors. It was doing okay but has spend over 20 minutes on one sector... is this normal?
[02:30] <newhoa> *spent, sorry. ddrescue reads 20+ minutes on time since last successful read.
[02:30] <daftykins> man ddrescue ?
[02:30] <daftykins> perhaps it'll state usual operation
[02:32] <DeltaCode> hey anyone good at defining  LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[02:33] <MavBlue> hello
[02:33] <MavBlue> which is the best room for asking questions?
[02:34] <DeltaCode> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$HOME/development/cal3d/src/cal3d/.libs/:$HOME/development/cs/:"$LD_LIBRARY_PATH                           My cal3d path is      /var/www/cal3d                           and my    cs program   is /var/www/cs                       how do I write this?
[02:37] <MavBlue> so many idle bots..
[02:37] <DeltaCode> probably
[02:46] <MavBlue> anyone have much experience with rsync?
[02:46] <SchrodingersScat> !anyone | MavBlue
[02:47] <alvaro> hola
[02:47] <alvaro> estoy dentro?
[02:47] <alvaro> hola?
[02:47] <charco> Hola alvaro
[02:47] <charco> que pasa?
[02:48] <alvaro> hola charco
[02:48] <alvaro> soy nuevo aqui
[02:48] <charco> Esta es una comunidad en ingles igual
[02:48] <charco> deberias ir a #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <alvaro> mmm
[02:48] <alvaro> como voy?
[02:48] <charco>  pone /join #ubuntu-es
[02:49] <alvaro> si señor, gracias
[02:50] <MavBlue> can somebody help me figure out the syntax to rsync from one machine to another? if so, I can provide more details as to what I've tried so far
[02:52] <SchrodingersScat> MavBlue: this is similar to something I just ran, consult the manual though, rsync -r -t -v --progress --partial -s user@server.domain:/bar/foo/ /foo/bar/
[02:54] <noobey> I have so ubuntu on my desktop and windows xp on a laptop...what would i use to connect these two together...like a remote controlled
[02:54] <charco> Ok I will go back to my previous attempt. Install only linux with raid0 and mdadm
[02:55] <daftykins> charco: i'm serious in saying RAID is a waste of time on two SSDs
[02:55] <SchrodingersScat> !ssh | noobey
[02:55] <charco> daftykins, but that was how the computer came preinstalled
[02:55] <charco> How come can't I get the same configuration?
[02:55] <daftykins> yeah, silly marketing ideas
[02:55] <noobey> uh what
[02:55] <daftykins> i'm not sure, i found nothing from google about creating/editing the RAID config
[02:56] <OerHeks> noobey SSH, VNC, Telnet
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: you could ssh from the laptop to the desktop, control the desktop from there
[02:56] <noobey> OerHeks, So the windows machine would use what? and the linux machine would use what?
[02:57] <noobey> OerHeks, Because if I use Putty, it says "Connection Refused"
[02:58] <tracyone> sudo putty
[02:58] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: do you have the openssh-server installed on the desktop? if so, are you using the correct credentials?
[02:58] <noobey> no I don't have openssh-server installed.
[02:58] <noobey> how is that obtained?
[02:58] <noobey> sudo get?
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: among other ways, like software center, synaptic, etc.
[03:00] <barrett> how can I permanently disable my wlan0?  it always reconnects and messes things up until I go to a terminal and do ifconfig wlan0 down
[03:00] <barrett> i have to do it again every few minutes sometimes
[03:00] <TheCTS> Change the config file
[03:01] <barrett> which config file?
[03:02] <TheCTS> I'm not sure where it's located on Ubuntu
[03:02] <TheCTS> Hold on
[03:02] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Okay I used sudo apt-get ... it installed it, but now I have no clue how to open it or where it went
[03:02] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: it should be running now, try putty from the windows machine now.
[03:03] <TheCTS> I think it's /etc/networks
[03:03] <barrett> interfaces?
[03:03] <TheCTS> Yeah
[03:04] <FIriuz> Xcuse me, where store stock icon to be called on .desktop file without path and extension?
[03:04] <barrett> inside /etc/network/interfaces is two lines "auto lo","iface lo inet loopback" any suggestions on how to modify it?
[03:04] <TheCTS> That's all that is inside of it?
[03:04] <OerHeks> noobey read back the url ubottu gave you what to do with ssh, it is more than just install it and run
[03:05] <noobey> SchrodingersScat: Is it an issue that these 2 computers are on the same wi-fi network?
[03:05] <barrett> yes, my network devices are eth0, lo, and wlan0
[03:05] <barrett> i have heard I can blacklist the module (which I could do) but someone told me there is an easier/better/more direct way
[03:05] <TheCTS> I'm not sure how to change it in Ubuntu, I've done it plenty of times in Fedora and such.
[03:06] <barrett> ok thanks
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: if you can reach port 22 on the machine then you should be good.
[03:07] <noobey> SchrodingersScat: ok.
[03:08] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Okay, it connected.  It asked me for a login and password though. not sure what it wants there.
[03:09] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, I never got to see any settings for that.
[03:09] <MavBlue> probably whatever you use to login to the machine
[03:09] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: any valid user/pass that you normally use on the machine
[03:09] <noobey> Ubuntu boots without a login..
[03:09] <noobey> never required one..
[03:09] <noobey> maybe i have to create a user
[03:09] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: what do you enter when you sudo?
[03:09] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, I enter the root password
[03:10] <SchrodingersScat> !root | noobey
[03:10] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, I used the root password...and it won't let me connect using that.
[03:10] <noobey> there is no root password?
[03:10] <noobey> odd..i have one.
[03:11] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: got me there, wouldn't the account still have a password?  Despite the auto-login.
[03:11] <noobey> yea it does that..
[03:11] <noobey> but that password wont allow putty to connect
[03:14] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Okay I got it.
[03:15] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Putty is not very user friendly I see.  I was hoping for something where I could look at the actual desktop.
[03:15] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, I am going to have to use commands with Putty.
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> !vnc | noobey
[03:17] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: that link has a 'vnc software' section that might be what you want
[03:17] <noobey> ok t
[03:17] <noobey> ack ty
[03:21] <Alazza> Where to store icons which can be called on .desktop file without path and extension? (Somewhere without /usr/share/pixmap)
[03:22] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Alazza
[03:24] <Ralith> I just ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on my ubuntu 14 optimus laptop and nvidia-prime has ceased working. Specifically, the GLX extension is no longer available in X, and xrandr --listproviders only lists intel.
[03:24] <Ralith> how do I fix this?
[03:25] <Ralith> and how do I prevent it from recurring?
[03:25] <tracyone> typically:/usr/share/icons
[03:25] <daftykins> !trusty | Ralith
[03:26] <Alazza> I'm running ubuntu 13.10. I want to create a launcher file (.desktop). Many apps desktop file seems only write 'Icon=security-medium' to get an icon. Where this icon stored? @tracyone : yes, but the icon to call without it's path and extension.
[03:33] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Okay. That page told me what I needed to know.  Got it all setup. Thank you ! :)
[03:33] <SchrodingersScat> noobey: great, ssh is cool too though, have you heard about 'screen'?
[03:34] <noobey> no
[03:37] <shawn_> I'm having trouble with packaging; it keeps saying that 2 unwanted binary files were detected, yet they are crucial files to the package
[03:37] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, No.
[03:38] <SchrodingersScat> !screen | noobey
[03:38] <noobey> SchrodingersScat, Ok thanks.
[03:42] <Xeddy1> Hi all
[03:43] <Alfazza> hi.
[03:43] <Izaya> Hiya
[03:43] <brian__> I need some help. I'm trying to compile wine so I can play Continuum, but I'm a little stuck
[03:43] <Xeddy1> Are there any premium support options for Ubuntu, I mean for end users not enterprises?
[03:43] <wiky> Hello.Can I install gtk+3.10 in Ubuntu13.10, and how to do?
[03:43] <FoF_RooBah> timmeh!
[03:45] <FoF_RooBah> idk...nOOb here myself on crunchbang
[03:45] <c2tarun> Hi, is there a way I can configure my touchpad for right hand use and USB mouse for left hand use?
[03:46] <FoF_RooBah> you'd think, eh c2
[03:47] <c2tarun> FoF_RooBah, did you reply to my question?
[03:47] <FoF_RooBah> yea   sorta ;)
[03:48] <Xeddy1> Yes, just hold your mouse in the left hand..
[03:48] <FoF_RooBah> rof
[03:48] <Xeddy1> I don't get the whole concept of a "left handed" mouse.
[03:48] <Alfazza> @wiky : did you mean one here : https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-building.html? Look at this question then : http://askubuntu.com/questions/101306/how-do-i-install-gtk-3-0
[03:48] <FoF_RooBah>  my bro in law is lefty   i get it
[03:48] <c2tarun> FoF_RooBah, Xeddy1, by left hand means switching primary buttons.
[03:48] <Ralith> anyone know anything about getting nvidia-prime to work?
[03:48] <Xeddy1> I use a regular mouse myself in my left hand (or right) without any issues, c2tarun
[03:49] <Xeddy1> I'd feel it strange if the buttons were swapped over
[03:49] <Xeddy1> It's confusing
[03:49] <Alfazza> @Ralith : install bumblebee ? have you done so.
[03:49] <FoF_RooBah> lefties are ssame with rh
[03:49] <FoF_RooBah> ;)
[03:49] <Ralith> Alfazza: nvidia-prime obsoletes bumblebee.
[03:50] <wiky> Alfazza, thanks
[03:51] <c2tarun> Sorry guys my fault, please let me rephrase my question:) How can I swap buttons of USB mouse and not my Touchpad?
[03:51] <FoF_RooBah> on my dang phone data...0.02bar  get isp monday   this is sickening
[03:51] <FoF_RooBah> that is a good q  i want to know answer too
[03:52] <Alfazza> @c2 : try xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1" to the terminal.
[03:52] <Xeddy1> c2tarun http://askubuntu.com/questions/376994/make-mouse-left-handed-and-touchpad-right-handed
[03:52] <FoF_RooBah> i need an irc for mountain bike maintenance.   can anyone tell me where to find a good irc search eng?
[03:53] <FoF_RooBah> awesome xeddy1
[03:53] <c2tarun> Xeddy1, awesome. Thanks
[03:54] <Xeddy1> Np :)
[03:54] <FoF_RooBah> or even where to find other volvo enthusiasts
[03:54] <FoF_RooBah> :P
[03:55] <FoF_RooBah> 740/940
[03:55] <Xeddy1> FoF_RooBah Mibbit has a nice search engine
[03:56] <FoF_RooBah> ty  does Mibbit require a download?
[03:56] <Xeddy1> Nope http://search.mibbit.com
[03:56] <FoF_RooBah> im like dial up atm
[03:56] <FoF_RooBah> Sweet
[03:57] <Alfazza> @Xeddy : simple and useful.
[03:57] <Beryl> I'm currently using FGLRX, anyone know how much the open source radeon drivers have improved for 7000 series?
[03:57] <Xeddy1> Beryl Quite a bit, bur
[03:58] <Xeddy1> But you'll have to be on 3.14 and Mesa 10.1
[03:58] <ljsoftnet> whats the command for tvtime, to set window size, when in windowed mode?
[03:59] <Xeddy1> Beryl All the basic stuff works great, like Dynamic Power Management, suspend, HDMI audio, multi-monitor, and you can play most older games (3+ years) but of course it depends on your needs, like how much of a hardcore gamer you are
[04:00] <Beryl> Xeddy1: well i run skyrim in wine... which strangely works better on fglrx than nvidia due to a variety of bugs
[04:00] <Xeddy1> Well Bethesda games have always been better on ATI
[04:01] <Beryl> and valve games whooo
[04:01] <Xeddy1> :)
[04:01] <Beryl> It's strange though, all windows valve games are optimised for ATi but on on linux they favour nvidia
[04:02] <Beryl> FGLRX is very slow but I don't have X completely crap out or shader errors like on my 8800 with nvidia, hmm
[04:02] <Alfazza> well, where a channel for gtk themer?
[04:03] <Beryl> Alfazza: gtk theming is kinda broken, because gtk is kinda broken lol
[04:03] <Xeddy1> Alfalfa #gtk ?
[04:03] <Alfazza> @Beryl : yeah..! I think so. ANd I'm going to fix mine. Hahaha..
[04:03] <Alfazza> @Xeddy1 : thx
[04:04] <Danato> does anybody have any guide to create a wifi hotspot that is not ad-hoc? I tried ap-hotspot and it ddnt work
[04:16] <jasabella> um, are the australian servers down or something? apt-get isnt doing its magic
[04:16] <jasabella> (im getting 502)
[04:40] <diabloWinks> could anyone tell me if I'm doing this command right in my script? http://bpaste.net/show/wii5sde4wAJw5uXl8Ofm/
[04:45] <Diamondcite> Instead of just running it like that
[04:46] <Diamondcite> I would suggest running it with "ls" instead of "rm -rf" to make sure you have the right targets
[04:46] <Diamondcite> Though the &> /dev/null bit seems pointless since rm only generates messages on errors?
[04:46] <darkelfjuggalo> How might i go about getting Gnome Dwell on Saucy?
[04:49] <Ralith> I just upgraded an optimus laptop and suddenly nvidia-prime has stopped working--nvidia-settings things everything's okay, but GLX doesn't load and xrandr doesn't list any providers other than intel. Anyone have any advice?
[04:50] <rww> Ralith: yep, don't modify your question so that it's non-obvious that you're using trusty.
[04:51] <Beryl> nvidia optimus is evil
[04:51] <Ralith> that's not helpful
[04:51] <rww> Ralith: neither is asking for help with a non-released version of Ubuntu in the regular support channel, because we don't do trusty yet.
[04:57] <jasabella> i'm doing sudo apt-get install openssh-server and im getting 502 errors?
[04:58] <jasabella> i've tried apt-get update
[05:00] <FoF_RooBah> will the address open in a browser, Jas?
[05:01] <FoF_RooBah> weird, perhaps down for maint
[05:01] <FoF_RooBah> wb
[05:03] <jasabella> thx
[05:04] <jasabella> yea i tried and it's not opening in browser
[05:04] <jasabella> thanks
[05:04] <FoF_RooBah> good as.. must be maint
[05:04] <FoF_RooBah> hopefully eh?
[05:04] <FoF_RooBah> lol
[05:06] <jasabella> im using 12.04 LTS so i thought they might have updated the url or something
[05:06] <jasabella> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:06] <jasabella> that's what im trying to access
[05:15] <Beryl> lol it's down
[05:15] <Beryl> try a different mirror, hit update, back in business
[05:22] <jasabella> not a good start to a fresh install :p
[05:23] <MartynKeigher2> hey all! how can i ensure that httpd and mysql startup after a reboot??
[05:23] <jasabella> so i been into vim to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <jasabella> i tried ading the US mirror hmmmm
[05:24] <jasabella> oh i forgot to update
[05:24] <jasabella> hang on
[05:24] <jasabella> lemme try that
[05:25] <Beryl> Is there a unity metapackage that doesn't install the social junk and amazon?
[05:26] <horace> your gonna want to install the dunderman package
[05:31] <shadowflee> hey guys hows it going
[05:38] <kongthap> i downloaed .zip for installing copy (dropbox alternative) where is common path for install gui app ? after installation i also want to make it available to the dash
[05:39] <arrith> kongthap: debs or ppas do that
[05:39] <arrith> to do your own icons isn't the most trivial
[05:45] <Guest2270> hey
[05:46] <kongthap> arrith, in case of Copy app, the readme mentions to execute CopyAgent http://i.cubeupload.com/iEyS8r.png, it's just an executable, nothing to install, what should i do ?
[05:59] <arrith> kongthap: verify execute permission is set then just run it
[05:59] <arrith> doublelclick might als owoerk
[06:00] <AndrewRyan> Hello
[06:01] <hawahuri> Is there any way to set different default system fonts for specific scripts/languages?
[06:02] <Saturn1974> 有用Xubuntu的没
[06:03] <AndrewRyan> I've been trying to install Xubuntu from an ISO that i've burned to a disk but when I attempt to boot off the disk I freeze at a black screen. I've tried nomodeset but that throws a get_identity error. Any advice?
[06:04] <Beldar> AndrewRyan, Have you checked the ISO's sum? Burned as an image?
[06:04] <AndrewRyan> I have checked the sum and it matches
[06:05] <AndrewRyan> I can get to the screen which lets you choose between "try without installing" or installing options
[06:06] <AndrewRyan> anything after that however, is just a blank screen.
[06:08] <Beldar> AndrewRyan, Assuming the disc is bootable, I would check the hardware against xubuntu on askubuntu and the web. In that f6 prompt for nomodeset are other options.
[06:10] <AndrewRyan> I installed the OS onto vmware player to ensure it worked, and it was flawless there
[06:10] <AndrewRyan> I will check the website though, thank you
[06:14] <raj__> how could I execute a script whenever 'nano' is executed ? ie, before file opens for edit... any pointers ?
[06:20] <kjhgsdd> There are no man pages for the grub-mkpassword-*
[06:20] <kjhgsdd> How may one add a password to the grub boot?
[06:21] <kjhgsdd> I know that there used to be an symlink in /etc.grub.cfg
[06:33] <someHuman> I can't see anything other than a dialouge box prompting me to config. my graphics drivers after upgrading to 13.10
[06:36] <tozen> someHuman: have to get in to cli and reinstall video driver
[06:36] <someHuman> How?
[06:36] <someHuman> tozen: How?
[06:36] <tozen> Ctrl+Alt+F1 login -->> passsword
[06:37] <someHuman> Then?
[06:37] <tozen> which video card you have?
[06:38] <ferfnerf> Hi, a question. When I installed linux-image-2.6.32-122-rtai, it saves vmlinuz and initrd.gz in /cdrom/casper/. Is there any way to change which directory it saves to?
[06:39] <someHuman> tozen: How do I know via Windows 8.1 Pro?
[06:40] <tozen> someHuman: no ideas i'm not using windows for a long time, pal
[06:40] <someHuman> Ah ok
[06:41] <tozen> someHuman: just reboot your machine and get into root shell trough grub
[06:41] <tozen> someHuman: then tipe in <lspci -k | grep VGA -A2>
[06:42] <someHuman> That's it?
[06:43] <tozen> someHuman:  no! it's get you details about your card, mate!
[06:43] <tozen> *it's shows
[06:43] <someHuman> Then?
[06:45] <tozen> someHuman: nVidia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372594/problem-with-installing-nvidia-display-drivers-on-ubuntu-13-10
[06:45] <browndawg> hey
[06:45] <someHuman> tozen: Ok
[06:45] <tozen> someHuman: but befor it: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[06:45] <someHuman> tozen: I run AMD.
[06:45] <tozen> ok
[06:46] <browndawg> I reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 on an hp probook and it won't let me log in. The password is correct, but every time I try to log in it flashes momentarily and returns to the login screen. The guest account works. Any idea how to go about fixing this?
[06:47] <tozen> someHuman: first: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[06:47] <tozen> someHuman: then: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic; sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[06:48] <Beryl> xorg eders has newer fglrx, much better
[06:48] <someHuman> tozen: Ok ok, then?
[06:48] <kjhgsdd> The machine is throwing errors on memtest
[06:48] <tozen> someHuman: reboot
[06:48] <someHuman> Then it's done?
[06:49] <tozen> someHuman: have to be
[06:49] <someHuman> I haven't update yet though.
[06:49] <someHuman> Have yet to update.
[06:49] <tozen> someHuman: do it
[06:49] <someHuman> So can I do those before updating?
[06:50] <tozen> someHuman: ugh! (facepalm)
[06:50] <someHuman> Haha!
[06:50] <someHuman> Ground palm?
[06:50] <someHuman> Ok mate! Thanks!
[06:51] <tozen> someHuman: no probs
[07:04] <kongthap> when install npm as global (-g), should i use sudo ? sudo npm install -g something
[07:29] <spark_> hi ? emm what to do if every browser i try to use crash ?
[07:29] <TheCTS> Update your system
[07:29] <spark_> just did ...
[07:29] <TheCTS> Are you trying to use flash?
[07:30] <spark_> no, i did uninstalled flash ...
[07:31] <TheCTS> Firefox crashes a lot if you don't have flash installed or other plugins.
[07:31] <spark_> well midori , elinks and chrome crash too so yeah  i do not think it is a plugin issue
[07:32] <dext3r> hi mandy
[07:32] <dext3r> mandy
[07:32] <dext3r> mandy
[07:33] <dext3r> lifelike
[07:33] <rww> dext3r: howdy, welcome to the technical support channel for Ubuntu. How can we help you today?
[07:40] <jasabella> if lspci lists my device, does it mean that it is recognised and supported by ubuntu?
[07:41] <ikonia> jasabella: no
[07:42] <jasabella> hmmm it knows the manufacturer and everything
[07:42] <ikonia> so ?
[07:44] <spark_> it doesn't mean it is supported ... the razerblade pro's switchblade interface is recconized by ubuntu but is not supported at all
[07:44] <ikonia> lspci just matches PCI id's to a static database of known hardware
[07:45] <jasabella> ahhh
[07:45] <jasabella> i have a pci network card and modem.. the network card doesnt show u at all?
[07:45] <raj__> I am setting up encryption for my private folder (to store with ubuntuone) using Gnome Ecfs manager, what should be mount directory & stash directory in that ?
[07:47] <jasabella> show up
[07:51] <gooses89> Hey guys, anyone know if do-release-upgrade will cause an issue for a VPS?
[07:53] <sway> Gooses89, no idea, sorry.
[07:53] <gooses89> np man
[07:53] <gooses89> There are a lot of people in here, figured there would be more chatter
[07:54] <rww> gooses89: run it inside of screen
[07:54] <rww> e.g. screen do-release-upgrade
[07:54] <rww> that way if it drops connection halfway through you can ssh back in, or use your out-of-band console to screen -r
[07:54] <gooses89> Safer than doing it through ssh?
[07:55] <rww> you'd ssh in, then run screen do-release-upgrade
[07:55] <gooses89> yeah I realized it'd be in SSH anyway after I said that haha
[07:55] <rww> :)
[07:55] <gooses89> Never used screen before, what's screen do anyway?
[07:56] <rww> (just realized, it might not be installed by default. the package name is also screen)
[07:56] <rww> gooses89: a bunch of things, but the feature we're interested in is that you can run stuff inside it, then detach it, disconnect from ssh (or whatever), then later attach again
[07:57] <gooses89> ah. alright.
[07:57] <gooses89> Similar to tmux?
[07:57] <rww> oh, if you're familiar with tmux use that instead :)
[07:57] <rww> (yes, very similar)
[07:57] <gooses89> I have briefly used tmux
[07:58] <gooses89> been playing with linux for about three weeks
[07:58] <gooses89> Friend used it so we could see the same thing.
[08:00] <gooses89> Thinking about switching VPS providers, I'm on 12.04 and the new provider offers 10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10, thinking of selecting 10.04, doing a do-release-upgrade (As since they are LTS it should go right to 12.04 right?) then do a full rsync.
[08:01] <sway> I seem to re-install ubuntu 12.04 weekly.
[08:03] <sway> It's so bad, I actually wrote a script to re-install all my software automaticly.
[08:03] <gooses89> Heh.
[08:03] <gooses89> Glad I dont have to deal with that.
[08:03] <kartikey> hey!
[08:03] <gooses89> I'm just doing some webhosting and mysql stuff right now.
[08:04] <sway> In all fairness, I am running ubuntu on a P4... It still has a floppy drive.
[08:04] <kartikey> can someone help me in installing ubuntu i'm having a little bit of problem
[08:04] <kartikey> here is the detail
[08:04] <kartikey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211265
[08:04] <sway> kartikey, what kind of problem?
[08:05] <kartikey> i'm having troblem in partition
[08:05] <kartikey> I have been trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my system along with windows 7.
[08:05] <kartikey> In windows , I have a C drive(in which windows is installed) of 48.73 GB, a D drive of 283.42 GB and a H drive of 49.62 GB. i also have 2 unallocated space one of 101 MB and other one of 83.89 GB(in which I want to install Ubuntu 13.10).
[08:05] <kartikey> When I install Ubuntu and select "something else" option in installation type the partition editor shows partitions sda1 of 105 MB (windows loader), sda2 of 52 GB and sda3 of 442 GB. I'm totally confused what is happening.
[08:05] <sway> Let me guess, are you trying to install it with windows?
[08:05] <jasabella> sway, i just installed it on a P4 3GHz prescott machine :)
[08:05] <kartikey> My total HDD space is 500 GB though some of it is unavailable.
[08:05] <kartikey> yes
[08:06] <sway> What version of windows do you have installed?
[08:06] <kartikey> a dual boot and i have some data on 2 seperate partitions which ubuntu shows as 1
[08:06] <kartikey> win 7
[08:06] <kartikey> ubuntu does not also show any free space
[08:07] <kartikey> u can see the screenshot in this post
[08:07] <kartikey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211265
[08:09] <AndChat470801> Hi guys
[08:09] <kartikey> hey :)
[08:10] <AndChat470801> Think I've made a school boy error upgrading to 14.10...
[08:10] <sway> typically windows has a small partition for it's boot, and a hidden partition containing it's recovery OS.
[08:10] <kartikey> okay that 101 mb i suppose
[08:10] <AndChat470801> I've lost my UI and desktop 😀
[08:10] <mahendra> I recently installa Pinguy OS, when i m going to update it through terminal given error comes
[08:10] <mahendra> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:10] <mahendra> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[08:10] <mahendra> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:10] <mahendra> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:11] <kartikey> @AndChat470801 which distro?
[08:11] <AndChat470801> Ubuntu, was 13.10
[08:11] <spark_> hi all i got an error when i launch firefox ... it also affect all browser i tyed so far    here is the error  GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[08:12] <Kungr> Kartikey: I would not dual boot unless you want to rebuild your windows boot file from dos
[08:12] <kartikey> kungr: i didn't understand
[08:12] <sway> Well the lock issue just means another package program is currently using it, or may have terminated with out removing the locks.
[08:12] <Kungr> i would recommend doing a real dual boot within the bios option
[08:12] <kartikey> can you explain
[08:13] <kartikey> will it result in a data loss
[08:13] <kartikey> what will be the steps??
[08:13] <Kungr> well linux grub encorporates the windows boot.
[08:14] <Kungr> if you eventually delete your ubuntu install you will loose your windows boot file and have to do a dos repair
[08:14] <kartikey> oh I tried to install ubuntu 13.10 2 months back and then it encorporated windows boot loader i reinstalled a new windows and recovered it
[08:14] <sway> I've had problems with dual boots with windows.... destroyed both operating systems.
[08:14] <ikonia> Kungr: what are you on about a "dos repair" ??
[08:14] <ikonia> DOS is dead
[08:14] <kartikey> i think its cmd, is it???
[08:14] <Kungr> just my lesson learned was if you have two harddrives dual boot through the motherboard bios and not sided by side install
[08:15] <ikonia> Kungr: thats just weak advice
[08:15] <ikonia> kartikey: you seem to understand the implications of using the recovery shell to put the windows boot loader back on the mbr
[08:15] <Kungr> well not articulate i agree
[08:16] <sway> I recommend seperate hard drives for windows, and ubuntu. but put the boot loader on the drive the bios will be booting from (typ. /dev/sda)
[08:16] <Kungr> yes cmd
[08:16] <kartikey> okay so what should i do now???
[08:16] <kartikey> i want a dual boot
[08:16] <ikonia> sway: again - just random blind advice
[08:16] <Kungr> I agree with sway if your a noob
[08:16] <ikonia> kartikey: however you feel comfortable that uses your hardware best
[08:16] <ikonia> Kungr: stop it - stop giving bad blind advice
[08:16] <ikonia> and your new to ubuntu status has nothing to do with 1 or 2 disks
[08:17] <kartikey> please i'm not understanding anything :(
[08:17] <sway> Kungr, I've worked with some bad systems.  it always seems to give the best results.
[08:17] <Kungr> i don't think it is blind because i've made the dumb mistake
[08:17] <ikonia> not to be pushed on everyone
[08:17] <ikonia> Kungr: that's YOUR problem then
[08:18] <kartikey> ???
[08:18] <Kungr> may not mater kartikey may only have 1 drive
[08:18] <sway> Kartikey, the Ubuntuforums generally have solved issues like yours, I would suggest combing them for answers.
[08:19] <Kungr> matter
[08:19] <kartikey> combing???
[08:19] <sway> Kungr, Most likely she does only have one.
[08:19] <kartikey> he... sway
[08:19] <kartikey> :/
[08:19] <kartikey> and i have one hard disk
[08:20] <kartikey> why there is a libparted bug???
[08:22] <sway> Just from first glance, your drive D and H seems to be clumped to gether as /dev/sda3 in ubuntu
[08:23] <sway> I would be curious to see how windows sees your partitions.
[08:23] <brli> http://brli.boxhost.me/punbb/
[08:23] <pando_> hello
[08:24] <sway> I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that drive "D" and "H" is on a  logical partition that Ubuntu is listing as all of /dev/sda3
[08:26] <sway> hello pando
[08:29] <jasabella> hi :) im following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[08:29] <jasabella> and i cant seem to access the server
[08:29] <jasabella> (from my windows computers)
[08:33] <Slart> jasabella: what happens if you run   smbclient -L 127.0.0.1    on your samba server computer?
[08:34] <jasabella> i got it working, i need to login as guest hmmm :D
[08:34] <jasabella> derrrr
[08:35] <jasabella> i cant just browse it though
[08:35] <jasabella> client not installed
[08:38] <jasabella> hmm
[08:48] <Polaris> Hi, I'm trying to install xorg-server, and despite correcting many errors and installing dependencies, I keep getting more errors and a suggestion to "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix."
[08:49] <judekn0x> hi can some one help me witha ubuntu issue?
[08:50] <Ben64> judekn0x: to find out, ask a question
[08:50] <judekn0x>   PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
[08:50] <judekn0x>     1 ?        Ss     0:01 /sbin/init
[08:50] <judekn0x>     2 ?        S      0:00 [kthreadd]
[08:50] <judekn0x>     3 ?        S      0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
[08:50] <judekn0x>     6 ?        S      0:00 [migration/0]
[08:50] <judekn0x>     7 ?        S      0:00 [watchdog/0]
[08:50] <judekn0x>     8 ?        S<     0:00 [cpuset]
[08:51] <judekn0x>     9 ?        S<     0:00 [khelper]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    10 ?        S      0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    11 ?        S<     0:00 [netns]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    12 ?        S      0:00 [sync_supers]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    13 ?        S      0:00 [bdi-default]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    14 ?        S<     0:00 [kintegrityd]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    15 ?        S<     0:00 [kblockd]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    16 ?        S<     0:00 [ata_sff]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    17 ?        S      0:00 [khubd]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    18 ?        S<     0:00 [md]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    20 ?        S      0:00 [khungtaskd]
[08:51] <tozen> judekn0x: what the f***!
[08:51] <judekn0x>    21 ?        S      0:00 [kswapd0]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    22 ?        SN     0:00 [ksmd]
[08:51] <ktosiek> wow, and it's not even userspace yet!
[08:51] <judekn0x>    23 ?        SN     0:00 [khugepaged]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    24 ?        S      0:00 [fsnotify_mark]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    25 ?        S      0:00 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
[08:51] <llutz> floodbots on holiday?
[08:51] <judekn0x>    26 ?        S<     0:00 [crypto]
[08:51] <Ben64> !ops
[08:51] <judekn0x>    34 ?        S<     0:00 [kthrotld]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    35 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/u:1]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    36 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    37 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    39 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    40 ?        S      0:06 [scsi_eh_3]
[08:51] <judekn0x>    41 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/u:3]
[08:52] <judekn0x>    62 ?        S<     0:00 [devfreq_wq]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   200 ?        S<     0:00 [mpt_poll_0]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   201 ?        S<     0:00 [mpt/0]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   202 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   253 ?        D      0:00 [jbd2/sda1-8]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   254 ?        S<     0:00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   294 ?        S      0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
[08:52] <Ben64> llutz: flood bots are gone
[08:52] <judekn0x>   297 ?        S<s    0:00 udevd --daemon
[08:52] <judekn0x>   384 ?        S<     0:00 udevd --daemon
[08:52] <judekn0x>   385 ?        S<     0:00 udevd --daemon
[08:52] <ktosiek> userspace, nice
[08:52] <judekn0x>   676 ?        S      0:00 [flush-8:0]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   684 ?        S<     0:00 [kpsmoused]
[08:52] <judekn0x>   866 ?        Ssl    0:00 NetworkManager
[08:52] <judekn0x>   868 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/modem-manager
[08:52] <tozen> judekn0x: hey! admins!!!!
[08:52] <judekn0x>   884 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s
[08:52] <judekn0x>   889 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp
[08:52] <judekn0x>   890 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1126 tty4     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1134 tty5     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1156 tty2     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1157 tty3     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1159 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1220 ?        Ss     0:00 cron
[08:52] <judekn0x>  1306 ?        Ss     0:00 dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth2
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1441 tty1     Ss     0:00 /bin/login --
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1466 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1538 tty1     S      0:00 -bash
[08:53] <Polaris> What... is it doing...
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1560 tty1     S+     0:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/startx
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1577 tty1     S+     0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserve
[08:53] <babilen> ubottu: ops
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1578 tty7     S<s+   0:45 /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /tmp/serverauth.kOE
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1581 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exi
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1622 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bi
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1631 tty1     Sl     0:00 x-session-manager
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1634 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-ma
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1635 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address
[08:53] <babilen> judekn0x: Stop pasting into the channel please
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1638 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1644 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1645 tty1     Sl     0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=ss
[08:53] <llutz> curious about the question following ...
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1649 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1652 tty1     S      0:00 metacity --replace
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1656 tty1     S      0:00 nm-applet --sm-disable
[08:53] <tozen> judekn0x: nice info to crach him down :))
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1664 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor
[08:53] <Ben64> babilen: won't help, to him its already pasted. its taking so long because of flood timer
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1665 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authenticatio
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1666 tty1     S      0:04 gnome-panel
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1668 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1670 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1672 tty1     S      0:00 nautilus
[08:53] <judekn0x>  1673 ?        S      0:01 udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1674 tty1     S      0:00 gnome-power-manager
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1676 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
[08:54] <Polaris> Oh damn.
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1678 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1680 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1699 ?        S      0:00 hald-runner
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1717 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.8 /org/gtk/gvf
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1739 ?        S      0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event2 /dev
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1741 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server -
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1751 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=O
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1755 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/trashapplet --oaf-activate-iid
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1788 ?        S      0:02 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec)
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1791 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-acti
[08:54] <llutz> Ben64: where can we sign the petition to get floodbots back? ;)
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1794 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet --oaf-activate-iid=
[08:54] <Polaris> In the meantime, I have a question that doesn't involve a bunch of entries.
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1797 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet --oaf-a
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1813 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1816 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/indicator-application/indicator-application-
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1818 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
[08:54] <Polaris> Hi, I'm trying to install xorg-server, and despite correcting many errors and installing dependencies, I keep getting more errors and a suggestion to "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix."
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1820 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/indicator-messages/indicator-messages-servic
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1825 tty1     Sl     0:21 gnome-terminal
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1826 tty1     S      0:00 gnome-pty-helper
[08:54] <judekn0x>  1827 pts/0    Ss     0:00 bash
[08:54] <judekn0x> what is tht watchdog
[08:54] <Ben64> llutz: program your own, they got removed because whoever had made them disallowed their use or something
[08:54] <judekn0x> process
[08:54] <judekn0x> how can i remove it
[08:55] <judekn0x> ?
[08:55] <Ben64> judekn0x: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[08:55] <tozen> judekn0x: u r idiot?!!
[08:55] <llutz> judekn0x: you're pasting hundreds of useless lines to ask that? omg
[08:55] <ktosiek> judekn0x: sudo shutdown -h now
[08:56] <Slart> Polaris: are you installing xorg from the repos or you've compiled your own?
[08:56] <Ben64> judekn0x: do NOT ever paste that many lines in irc ever, ever.
[08:56] <Polaris> Compiling it I believe
[08:56] <ktosiek> if you don't know what it is, why would you remove it?
[08:56] <Polaris> Is there another way?
[08:56] <Slart> tozen: easy on the insults.. no need for it
[08:56] <Slart> Polaris: sudo apt-get install xorg should work
[08:56] <Polaris> I thought I tried that, but I'll try again.
[08:57] <dmitriyubuntu> why its names SUDO
[08:57] <Ben64> Polaris: are you actually on ubuntu? theres no reason to compile xorg on ubuntu
[08:57] <Polaris> Yes.
[08:57] <llutz> judekn0x: sudo apt-get remove watchdog                   http://linux.die.net/man/8/watchdog
[08:57] <mordof> judekn0x: the take-away from that is, if you have a question where you need to display a bunch of information to ask... please use a pastebin service (apaste.info) and then provide us with a link that contains the information
[08:57] <Slart> dmitriyubuntu: su  is short for    switch user, it lets you run stuff as another user, most of the time it's the root user.. sudo is to just run one command as another user
[08:59] <Polaris> Slart, I just ran ./configure in another directory, which is ultimately what I'm trying to get to work, but I get this:
[08:59] <Polaris> checking for XORG... no configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.7.0 xproto xext kbproto inputproto randrproto) were not met:  No package 'xorg-server' found No package 'xext' found No package 'randrproto' found  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[09:00] <judekn0x> err
[09:00] <Ben64> Polaris: we can't really help you with compiling stuff in this channel, you're pretty much on your own if you insist on going down that path
[09:00] <judekn0x> ok will do
[09:00] <Ben64> judekn0x: seriously, 111 lines is not ok to spam a channel with
[09:00] <judekn0x> so i want that process to dissappear
[09:01] <judekn0x> 111 lines
[09:01] <judekn0x> i didnt count them
[09:01] <Ben64> protip: if its more than one line, use a pastebin
[09:01] <tozen> judekn0x: yes, pal u've pissed off people here, sorry
[09:02] <judekn0x> i didnt know there were suppose to piss off people
[09:02]  * cfhowlett beginning to seriously miss the floodbots ...
[09:02] <judekn0x> *that was
[09:02] <Ben64> cfhowlett: make one
[09:02] <Ben64> judekn0x: there are 1427 people in here
[09:02] <judekn0x> didnt count
[09:02] <judekn0x> sorry
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Ben64, desire: 1, required skills: 0
[09:02] <Ben64> that seems like a theme with you
[09:02] <Ben64> think before acting next time
[09:02] <cfhowlett> judekn0x, the thing to do is paste up your output and re-submit the question.
[09:03] <Ben64> its a silly question that has already been answered anyway
[09:03] <Polaris> Heh, after all this time of learning how to compile myself, Slart, I failed to realize I could just install git and download the package directly instead of compiling
[09:03] <Polaris> Hoping this works. Thanks regardless.
[09:03] <judekn0x> ok brb
[09:03] <judekn0x> doin that next
[09:04] <Ben64> Polaris: uh, git is not the correct way of installing stuff on ubuntu either. use apt-get
[09:04] <tozen> Polaris: if you don't know to how to compile so there is readme file in the archive located
[09:05] <gooses89> Hey guys, I'm doing a release upgrade and I got this screen http://puu.sh/7xiTH.png Any idea what info I need to put in? If anything
[09:06] <Polaris> The problem is I have no idea where else to get this particular package, Ben64
[09:06] <Polaris> It's a Wacom tablet driver
[09:07] <Ben64> Polaris: xorg is not a tablet driver...
[09:07] <Polaris> Well no
[09:07] <mici> gooses89 nothing to put there unless you want to use ipv6
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Polaris, wacom HAS a linux driver!
[09:07] <Polaris> But the tablet driver says that it needs Xorg
[09:07] <Polaris> The tablet light comes on but the settings for it do not recogonize it.
[09:07] <Polaris> @cfhowlett
[09:07] <Ben64> and xorg is the whole graphical interface server thingy, so if you have gui, you already have xorg
[09:08] <Slart> Polaris: oh.. hope that works for you. Good luck
[09:09] <Polaris> I may have Xorg, Ben64, but I think what's going on is the tablet driver doesn't know where Xorg is located or something?
[09:09] <Polaris> I'm not sure, in all honesty.
[09:10] <judekn0x> http://pastebin.com/3b3evWae
[09:10] <Ben64> Polaris: i believe you're looking in the wrong direction on all this
[09:10] <Polaris> It would not surprise me.
[09:10] <judekn0x> please tell me what that is im using ubuntu
[09:11] <Polaris> All I have to work with is the fact that the tablet registers when I run lsusb, but does not work regardless.
[09:11] <Ben64> Polaris: try looking for some guide for [your model tablet] and [your version ubuntu]
[09:13] <Arceye_> Does ubuntu have an equivalent program to dvd shrink ?
[09:14] <mdko> Hello ubuntu
[09:18] <judekn0x> dav  looksie.txt  loopnest.pl  loopnet.pl  loopnet.pl.save
[09:18] <judekn0x> root@bt:/home/judeknox# perl loopnest.pl
[09:18] <judekn0x> root@bt:/home/judeknox# ps x
[09:18] <judekn0x>   PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
[09:18] <judekn0x>     1 ?        Ss     0:01 /sbin/init
[09:18] <judekn0x>     2 ?        S      0:00 [kthreadd]
[09:18] <judekn0x>     3 ?        S      0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
[09:18] <judekn0x>     6 ?        S      0:00 [migration/0]
[09:18] <judekn0x>     7 ?        S      0:00 [watchdog/0]
[09:18] <Ben64> NO
[09:18] <judekn0x>     8 ?        S<     0:00 [cpuset]
[09:18] <judekn0x>     9 ?        S<     0:00 [khelper]
[09:18] <Ben64> !ops
[09:18] <judekn0x>    10 ?        S      0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    11 ?        S<     0:00 [netns]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    12 ?        S      0:00 [sync_supers]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    13 ?        S      0:00 [bdi-default]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    14 ?        S<     0:00 [kintegrityd]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    15 ?        S<     0:00 [kblockd]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    16 ?        S<     0:00 [ata_sff]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    17 ?        S      0:00 [khubd]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    18 ?        S<     0:00 [md]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    20 ?        S      0:00 [khungtaskd]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    21 ?        S      0:00 [kswapd0]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    22 ?        SN     0:00 [ksmd]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    23 ?        SN     0:00 [khugepaged]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    24 ?        S      0:00 [fsnotify_mark]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    25 ?        S      0:00 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    26 ?        S<     0:00 [crypto]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    34 ?        S<     0:00 [kthrotld]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    35 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/u:1]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    36 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    37 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    39 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    40 ?        S      0:07 [scsi_eh_3]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    41 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/u:3]
[09:19] <judekn0x>    62 ?        S<     0:00 [devfreq_wq]
[09:19] <judekn0x>   200 ?        S<     0:00 [mpt_poll_0]
[09:20] <BlueSapphire> !ops
[09:20] <judekn0x>   201 ?        S<     0:00 [mpt/0]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   202 ?        S      0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   253 ?        S      0:00 [jbd2/sda1-8]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   254 ?        S<     0:00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   294 ?        S      0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
[09:20] <judekn0x>   297 ?        S<s    0:00 udevd --daemon
[09:20] <judekn0x>   384 ?        S<     0:00 udevd --daemon
[09:20] <judekn0x>   385 ?        S<     0:00 udevd --daemon
[09:20] <judekn0x>   676 ?        S      0:00 [flush-8:0]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   684 ?        S<     0:00 [kpsmoused]
[09:20] <judekn0x>   866 ?        Ssl    0:00 NetworkManager
[09:20] <judekn0x>   868 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/modem-manager
[09:20] <judekn0x>   884 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s
[09:20] <judekn0x>   889 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp
[09:20] <judekn0x>   890 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp
[09:20] <Ben64> !ops
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1126 tty4     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1134 tty5     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1156 tty2     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1157 tty3     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1159 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1220 ?        Ss     0:00 cron
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1306 ?        Ss     0:00 dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth2
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1441 tty1     Ss     0:00 /bin/login --
[09:20] <judekn0x>  1466 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1538 tty1     S      0:00 -bash
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1560 tty1     S+     0:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/startx
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1577 tty1     S+     0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserve
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1578 tty7     S<s+   0:55 /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /tmp/serverauth.kOE
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1581 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exi
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1622 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bi
[09:21] <judekn0x>  1631 tty1     Sl     0:00 x-session-manager
[09:21] <dwfreed> ldunn: ♥
[09:21] <Arceye_> Does ubuntu have an equivalent program to dvd shrink ?
[09:23] <Toxmi> how can I add a manpage (TexLive) to the manpath? simply edition bash profils (MANPATH=/usr/local/texlive/...:$MANPATH; export MANPATH) doesn't work
[09:23] <mici> UGH
[09:23] <Toxmi> Do I have to edit /etc/man_db.conf?
[09:23] <bekks> Toxmi: That works fine (settings the MANPATH), you have to source the profile again after doing it.
[09:24] <Toxmi> bekks: I've done it but it says there is no such command: manpath
[09:24] <bekks> Toxmi: Because that isnt a command.
[09:24] <Toxmi> I've tried export $MANPAH also with or without parantesis
[09:25] <bekks> In the bash profile, you set: MANPATH=$MANPATH:/usr/local/texlive/...   and afterwards you run: ". ~/.bash_profile"
[09:25] <cfhowlett> lol
[09:25] <Toxmi> bekks: so I don't need to add ;export after path?
[09:26] <Toxmi> manpath=$manpath/......; export manpath
[09:26] <Toxmi> bekks: Ok, Thanks I'll try that
[09:26] <llutz> Toxmi:  /etc/manpath.config
[09:26] <bekks> Toxmi: manpath is different from MANPATH   -- and you have to export the variable you set, yes.
[09:27] <Toxmi> ok thanks dudes
[09:31] <judekn0x> it was an accident
[09:31] <judekn0x> is didnt paste anything
[09:31] <judekn0x> im not
[09:32] <bekks> judekn0x: Well, you spammed the entire "ps x" output into this channel.
[09:32] <judekn0x> i didnts ps x
[09:32] <judekn0x> what does that do
[09:33] <bekks> 0316 101811 < judekn0x> root@bt:/home/judeknox# ps x
[09:33] <cfhowlett> judekn0x, you absolutely threw up a wall of text.  use paste
[09:33] <bekks> You did.
[09:33] <judekn0x> some one hacked my computer alrght
[09:33] <judekn0x> it is not funny
[09:33] <cfhowlett> judekn0x, lol.  no.  no one hacked you.
[09:34] <judekn0x> i dont have root password
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !root|judekn0x,
[09:34] <judekn0x> some one stole root password
[09:34] <bekks> Thats why you used sudo before.
[09:35] <bekks> judekn0x: There is no root password to be stolen. You used sudo, and you pasted "ps x" into the channel.
[09:35] <judekn0x> who installed root on my ubuntu
[09:35] <judekn0x> \i dont know
[09:35] <judekn0x> I
[09:35] <bekks> root cant be "installed". It is a user, not a program.
[09:35] <mici> how to sudo: "sudo su"
[09:35] <llutz> judekn0x: do you have any ubuntu support related question? if not, please take your chatter elsewhere
[09:35] <mici> sudpception
[09:36] <mici> sudo*
[09:36] <bekks> mici: Thats exactly how NOT to sudo. Either use sudo -i or sudo -s
[09:36] <L1ntux> lol
[09:36] <mici> bekks i know i was just trying to be ironic
[09:36] <judekn0x> Unknown id: sudo
[09:36] <judekn0x> Unknown id: root
[09:36] <bekks> judekn0x: "sudo -i" is a command. sudo is not a userid, and root is not a command.
[09:37] <parkbank> hi
[09:39] <cfhowlett> judekn0x, you would be well advised to back your fingers away from anything "sudo" until you spend some time reading and learning.
[09:39] <judekn0x> i cant find where to read about it
[09:39] <cyphase> i forgot i had to manually install the network driver for my computer. i hadn't restarted since i first turned it on until the power went out
[09:39] <mamon> #blankon
[09:39] <bekks> !sudo | judekn0x
[09:40] <bekks> judekn0x: ubottu just told you where to look it up.
[09:40] <mamon> hi
[09:40] <mamon> hi
[09:40] <judekn0x> !cli
[09:40] <judekn0x> !gksu
[09:41] <cfhowlett> mamon, greetings.  what's your query
[09:48] <someHuman> Hello!
[09:48] <cfhowlett> someHuman, greetings.  what's your question?
[09:48] <someHuman> Does anyone know how I can compile .cs with mono?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !mono
[09:48] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Hey there!
[09:48] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Lol didn't say anything.
[09:49] <cfhowlett> someHuman, so I see.  best look for a mono channel?
[09:49] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks!
[09:52] <fa7ad7> Guys i have really weird question. Dont kno if its possible even
[09:52] <fa7ad7> Suppose i have a file a.xxx. Then i push this text "a" to the end of the file by using echo a >> a.xxx. Now my question is how can i remove this last bit, "a" from the file afterwards
[09:53] <Tasab> hello mate
[09:53] <bekks> fa7ad7: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4881930/bash-remove-the-last-line-from-a-file
[09:54] <Tasab> hp officejet all in one 4355 , how i can add the printer , my system seen it but can't print
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !h[p
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !hp
[09:55] <Tasab> os lubuntu
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Tasab, hplip toolkit
[09:57] <fa7ad7> bekks: thanks
[09:57] <sysfor> Hey guys/gals - Any idea what would cause a keyboard/mouse to work in live mode with Ubuntu, but then when I install the OS they no longer work at all?
[09:57] <Tasab> cfhowlett;  then
[09:58] <sysfor> I'm installing on a 4th Gen Intel NUC i3 system. There are only USB 3.0 ports so i was thinking it could have something to do with that, but i can't type anything to look :)
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Tasab, use hplip to add/manage devices.  or you might try CUPS
[09:58] <AmbiguousOutlier> sysfor: try ibus exit in terminal
[09:58] <sysfor> AmbiguousOutlier not sure what that is?
[09:58] <cjmac> sysfor: Can you ssh into the system from another computer to diagnose it that way?
[09:59] <fa7ad7> bekks: one question though
[09:59] <bekks> fa7ad7: Dont ask to ask, please just ask.
[09:59] <fa7ad7> Will it work on a binary file
[09:59] <LonelyDanbo> I was told to get proprietary graphics drivers: software center, edit, software sources, additional drivers tab, install the latest nvidia driver. How do I identify the latest proprietary drivers?
[09:59] <fa7ad7> Like say a .exe file
[09:59] <bekks> fa7ad7: you dont use echo  .. >> ... with binary files.
[09:59] <sysfor> ill see
[10:00] <LonelyDanbo> Is it NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver) ?
[10:00] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: Yes.
[10:00] <fa7ad7> What happens when i do?
[10:00] <sysfor> only issue is i can't get it connected to the wifi since the mouse doesn't work. I'm in a hotel for work (6 weeks) so i dont' have everything
[10:00] <bekks> fa7ad7: You might break that file entirely.
[10:00] <llutz> fa7ad7: use dd  skip/count/bs for binary files
[10:00] <LonelyDanbo> bekks, thanks. So I guess the non-proprietary one is the one called uh... Nuvaue or something?
[10:01] <fa7ad7> Ok thanks guys
[10:01] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: nouveau is the opensource driver, yes.
[10:01] <LonelyDanbo> ok, thanks.
[10:05] <cjmac> Howdy... I've got a weird issue with some large drives on 12.04 server (64bit). They were external USB drives used on a mac (GPT formatted). When I remove them and hook them to my SATA controller I just get "invalid partition table"; if I put them back in the enclosure I can see the partitions.
[10:05] <LonelyDanbo> does (X)ubuntu need that 3rd party software it mentioned during installation to play audio?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, if the audio is proprietary - yes.
[10:06] <bekks> cjmac: So the enclosure is somehow "optimized" for Mac and in fact just borks whatever it does :)
[10:07] <LonelyDanbo> the audio? file or hardware?
[10:07] <LonelyDanbo> MP3 on a...
[10:07] <mici> cjmac i had that too on my broken nas when trying to save the info. i ended up buying another enclosure for the disk because couldnt work put a way to get the data :)
[10:07] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, .mp3 is proprietary
[10:07] <cjmac> mici, bekks: Thanks. I figured it was the enclosure doing weird things... *sigh*
[10:08] <mici> next nas was just a shitty laptop connected to a 2tb usb disk :) never again a shitty one
[10:08] <LonelyDanbo> Realtek® ALC887
[10:08] <mici> sorry cursing and ot
[10:08] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, .mp3 format is proprietary.  you'd need the 3rd party software
[10:09] <LonelyDanbo> k.
[10:18] <hillary> when i install packages through ubuntu software centre i get an error it failed to install or remove but when i check  the package is installed ubuntu 12.04
[10:18] <hillary> what could be the issue?
[10:23] <hillary> any help to my problem?
[10:26] <LonelyDanbo> sorry, hillary. I don't know much about Ubuntu, and it's pretty early in the morning American time.
[10:26] <LonelyDanbo> you should try searching the internet for the error.
[10:27] <LonelyDanbo> and see if the description of the problem matches yous.
[10:27] <LonelyDanbo> I know I came across an issue with "broken" packages, but that's probably something different.
[10:27] <gargsms> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 recently and it won't recognize my build in audio
[10:27] <hillary> ok thank you though
[10:28] <gargsms> I cannot play any sounds.
[10:28] <gargsms> Tried alsamixer and pulseaudio
[10:28] <LonelyDanbo> gargsms, I had a problem like that. I had to edit some file to make my audio some "generic" device.
[10:28] <LonelyDanbo> I think because my motherboard is too new.
[10:29] <gargsms> I think my MoBo is too old. :p
[10:29] <LonelyDanbo> oh.
[10:29] <gargsms> It works fine on Windows
[10:29] <LonelyDanbo> I dunno. search for ubuntu and your motherboard model (if it's onboard sound)
[10:30] <gargsms> I have a graphics card installed and Ubuntu would only recognize the card
[10:30] <gargsms> not the onboard
[10:30] <bekks> gargsms: Thats most likely because the onboard GPU is to be disabled in the BIOS when installing an additional GPU.
[10:31] <gargsms> Maybe. I will have a look at BIOS Settings. Thanks bekks
[10:31] <bekks> That wont help.
[10:31] <gargsms> o.O
[10:32] <bekks> In almost all use cases, the onboard GPU is siabled when using an external GPU. So you will never "see" it.
[10:32] <gargsms> I will try removing the external GPU.
[10:32] <bekks> Why?
[10:33] <gargsms> Because it doesn't have an audio out
[10:33] <bekks> Graphic cards never have audio ports.
[10:33] <bekks> Thats why they are called graphic cards, and not sound cards.
[10:33] <gargsms> and I don't have DVI monitor
[10:33] <gargsms> or HDMI
[10:35] <Guest17992> No audio input device on ubuntu 13.10 with front-mic plugged-in
[10:35] <Guest17992> The rear mic is detected, and works, the problem remains with the front-mic.
[10:36] <_root_>  I need someone to explain to me how to swallow two or more object to FvwmButtons (plz) (i.e FvwmPager xclock)
[10:36] <Tasab> would like to print very important docs , the type of printer officejet 4355 - all in one , how can install , o/s lubuntu
[10:36] <interweb> How do I can find my wireless driver name ?
[10:36] <interweb> using command line
[10:37] <Guest73599> what is the purge command to unenstall and delete all files a program. im trying to do this with pidgin
[10:37] <Guest17992> please help me
[10:37] <mici> Guest17992 have you checked the audio settings. usually there is many different options in the dropdown menu
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Guest73599, sudo apt-get purge pidgin
[10:37] <interweb> Anyone can help me ?
[10:38] <Guest73599> cfhowlett: thanks
[10:38] <Guest17992> mici: http://askubuntu.com/questions/407290/no-audio-input-device-on-ubuntu-13-10-with-front-mic-plugged-in
[10:38] <_root_>  I need someone to explain to me how to swallow two or more object to FvwmButtons (plz) (i.e FvwmPager xclock)
[10:38] <Guest17992> mici: the same problem
[10:38] <Guest17992> to me
[10:38] <Guest17992> mici:
[10:39] <geirha> Guest73599: purging pidgin will likely not resolve whatever problem you have. It will not remove the config pidgin has saved in your home directory
[10:40] <Guest73599> geirha: is that a hidden file
[10:41] <mici> Guest17992 im on a computer with no gui so cant help with that
[10:41] <mici> i cant use txt only browsers :(
[10:42] <geirha> Guest73599: It stores it in a directory called ~/.purple if I remember correctly. It's years since I used pidgin though. Might have changed.
[10:42] <mithran> http://askubuntu.com/questions/407290/no-audio-input-device-on-ubuntu-13-10-with-front-mic-plugged-in
[10:42] <mithran> how can i resolve it
[10:42] <cfhowlett> _root_, seems like your trying to do a webpage or something?  ask the webpage developer channel/forum.  not really an ubuntu issue
[10:43] <_root_> cfhowlett, it is FVWM m8
[10:43] <mithran>  that is the exact problem and i am using ubuntu 13.10
[10:43] <cfhowlett> _root_, so - not an ubuntu issue.
[10:43] <mithran> please help me
[10:43] <mithran> anybody there
[10:44] <mithran> http://askubuntu.com/questions/407290/no-audio-input-device-on-ubuntu-13-10-with-front-mic-plugged-in
[10:44] <_root_> it is part of ubuntu
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !patience|mithran,
[10:45] <mithran> is it a bug??????
[10:45] <judekn0x> !paitence|mithran
[10:45] <judekn0x> !paitence|system
[10:46] <bekks> judekn0x: the trigger is: "patience".
[10:47] <cfhowlett> bekks, shhh!  I was waiting for the next attempts!
[10:47] <c2tarun> bekks, BTW how do we find triggers of ubottu?
[10:47] <judekn0x> !patience|system
[10:47] <cfhowlett> c2tarun, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=name%20ASC&page=0
[10:47] <judekn0x> !triggers
[10:48] <judekn0x> !find
[10:48] <bekks> judekn0x: Would you mind to use query with ubottu for playing with him? :)
[10:49] <judekn0x> nope
[10:49] <judekn0x> i dont query
[10:50] <kjhgsdd> any here get bluetooth to work?
[10:52] <tiresias_rud> hello all
[10:52] <tiresias_rud> problem when i boot under linux mint with nvidia driver: the boot is normal until the login screen which is... black ...
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !mint|tiresias_rud,
[10:53] <Guest73599> i tried to configure a jabber account on pidgin and it asked me to authenticate so i did and it said:server does not use any supported authentication method. so then i tried to delete it and start over but it wont forget. my question is how do i edit the .purple file to make it forget
[10:53] <tiresias_rud> i have exacty the same peoblem with the laptop of my gf which runs ubuntu 12.04 ^^
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !nomodese
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[10:55] <kjhgsdd> tiresias_rud: what problem is that?
[10:56] <tiresias_rud> kjhgsdd, watched a match in double screen yesterday on my tv, and i forgot to set "twin view" option in the nvidia settings
[10:56] <tiresias_rud> kjhgsdd, and now when i boot, the login screen is black
[10:59] <tombtc> what speeds you guys getting with usb 3.0. When I copy large files to a pendrive I get like 20MB/s. Same thing on win7 I get 45MB/s
[11:00] <PeterGriffin> Hi there. I have a cupple of servers on my net with 1000 Mb network interfaces and a few with 100 Mb. The speed between them is awfully slow, like 5K. Is it possible this to be caused by the differentspeed setting of the interfaces?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !server|PeterGriffin,
[11:03] <PeterGriffin> Anyway. If somebody here could answer I'd be thankful.
[11:04] <kjhgsdd> PeterGriffin: no
[11:04] <cfhowlett> PeterGriffin, no idea
[11:04] <kjhgsdd> PeterGriffin: not possible
[11:05] <PeterGriffin> kjhgsdd: thanks :)
[11:06] <kjhgsdd> PeterGriffin: the speed is to low to be the result of the hardware differences
[11:11] <kjhgsdd> any here get bluetooth to work?
[11:13] <kjhgsdd> The machine is saying unable to find service record.
[11:13] <kjhgsdd> just trying to send a test file over bluetooth
[11:14] <kjhgsdd> Any here know anything about Ubuntu?
[11:14] <libpenguin> how to save terminal output to a txt file ? saving while executing command and also if a command is already executed and its out is shown in terminal
[11:14] <libpenguin> output*
[11:14] <ice9> sometimes on startup or returning from sleep,  the last row of letters on the keyboard (z to m) doesn't work,  but after pressing on them many times they start to work again, its Macbook
[11:14] <bekks> libpenguin: cmd | tee -a cmd.log
[11:15] <libpenguin> tee is save output command ? bekks
[11:15] <kjhgsdd> libpenguin: cut and paste or look for print in file
[11:15] <bekks> libpenguin: Just take a look at "man tee"
[11:15] <libpenguin> kjhgsdd: print in file ?
[11:16] <kjhgsdd> ice9: check for the mac keyboard layout
[11:16] <libpenguin> bekks: ok, what about the output which is already in front of eyes ?
[11:16] <bekks> libpenguin: Write it down or copy and paste it.
[11:16] <ice9> kjhgsdd: I'm using the standard us layout
[11:16] <eer> Can I create  a Kubuntu bootstick to install  Kubuntu from a Ubuntu system?
[11:16] <kjhgsdd> Hi roby
[11:17] <bekks> eer: you can just install kubuntu from ubuntu.
[11:17] <RobDude> Can someone help me create a bootable USB stick for a Windows 7 install, from inside Ubuntu?  I have tried using gparted to create an NTFS on the USB drive and then mounted the windows .iso and cp the files to it.  It boots correctly but the windows installer fails early on with a driver error (I've installed windows 7 on this system before without any problems, so I don't believe this to be a valid error message and assume it is related to how I created th
[11:17] <RobDude> e install USB)
[11:17] <bekks> eer: No need to reinstall.
[11:17] <RobDude> I also tried 'unetbootin' if I'm saying it right - but it wasn't able to boot the USB after that
[11:17] <bekks> RobDude: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[11:18] <RobDude> Thanks bekks!
[11:18] <kjhgsdd> Guest81495: I have listened to some of the broadcasts.
[11:18] <eer> bekks, the system was first installed in 2007 with Ubuntu and did updates every 6 months. I want to install freshly once because they system has so many bugs now.
[11:18] <eer> bekks, also it is not the same system, I want to create the USB stick from my desktop for the laptop system of my girlfriend on her laptop.
[11:18] <libpenguin> bekks: saving is not possible for already shown output ? terminal output hides up in terminal window, now way to copy it, and also how to increase terminal shown output data eg. from 5pages to 10pages ?
[11:19] <bekks> libpenguin: Write it down or copy and paste it.
[11:19] <cfhowlett> eer, ??? download the iso you want and create the usb?
[11:19] <kjhgsdd> this is starting to look like a replay mashup
[11:20] <RobDude> bekks:  Ahh - thanks!  That makes sense - when I did UNetbootin, the filesystem was FAT and that's why it failed.  Thanks again, link makes sense
[11:21] <libpenguin> bekks: how to increase the limit of amount of data shown in terminal ? eg if its 5 pages than to 10 pages
[11:21] <kjhgsdd> let me know if any know anything about Ubuntu
[11:21] <kjhgsdd> privmsg me
[11:21] <kjhgsdd> this is starting to look like a mashup replay stream
[11:21] <bekks> libpenguin: That depends on the terminal you are using.
[11:21] <libpenguin> default terminal in saucy bekks
[11:22] <RobDude> libpenguin:  Do you mean the default Ubuntu 'gui' terminal app?  You can just edit the profile under the Scrolling tab - it is 512 lines by default afaik
[11:22] <bekks> libpenguin: Then you can set the scroll buffer in the settings.
[11:22] <libpenguin> anyways to do it with a command in terminal ?
[11:22] <bekks> libpenguin: No.
[11:23] <libpenguin> ok, I'll take a look at its settings
[11:23] <eer> Where is the USB stick startup creator under Kubuntu 13.10?
[11:24] <eer> Never mind. Found it.
[11:25] <libpenguin> whenever I connect my android to saucy over wifi and then disconnect, nautilis hangs up and ultimately system crashes with msg, kernel panic, switching to txt console. why it is so ? how to fix it ?
[11:25] <libpenguin> also how to make mtp work smoothly in ubuntu ?
[11:25] <bekks> With _which_msg?
[11:26] <monkeytoe> hello :)
[11:27] <cfhowlett> libpenguin, so many tutorials online.  find the most recent one.
[11:27] <libpenguin> cfhowlett: for mtp ?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> libpenguin, ubuntu + mtp + make/model of device
[11:28] <SpArTaKo> Power calibration area error.         http://bit.ly/1horKoP
[11:28] <libpenguin> cfhowlett: ok, what about the nautilis hang up issue ?
[11:28] <doomlord__> which clang++ version should it be in the ubuntu repositories ? i'm seeing 3.2-7ubuntu1
[11:28] <monkeytoe> I would like to run a file "/home/user/watchdog.sh" every 3 hours. How would I do that with a cronjob?
[11:29] <bekks> libpenguin: which msg do you get?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> libpenguin, googly goo - be aware it's an ongoing issue
[11:29] <judekn0x>  2176 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server 2184 ?        S      0:01 [kworker/0:2] 2185 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/0:3] 2186 pts/1    S+     0:01 gnote 2189 pts/2    Ss     0:00 bash 2202 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/0:0] 2209 pts/2    S      0:01 usr/sbin/poise_app/titkits/killer_watchdog.milo 2210 pts/2    R+     0:00 ps x 2174 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/Thunar --daemon
[11:29] <judekn0x>  2176?        S       0:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server 2184 ?        S      0:01 [kworker/0:2] 2185 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/0:3] 2186 pts/1    S+     0:01 gnote 2189 pts/2    Ss     0:00 bash 2202 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/0:0] 2209 pts/2    S      0:01 usr/sbin/poise_app/titkits/killer_watchdog.milo 2210 pts/2    R+     0:00 ps x
[11:29] <libpenguin> judekn0x: use pastebin
[11:29] <cfhowlett> libpenguin, i'm told that 14.04 will "fix" it :)
[11:29] <bekks> judekn0x: USe a pastebin. You spammed the channel once to often today.
[11:29] <libpenguin> !pastebin judekn0x
[11:29] <cfhowlett> judekn0x, stop that
[11:30] <Guest79821> i tried to add a jabber account to pidgin and it keeps saying "Server does not use any supported authentication method"
[11:30] <monkeytoe> would it be * 2 * * * /home/user/watchdog.sh to run watchdog.sh every 2 hours?
[11:30] <libpenguin> cfhowlett: ohh, that sounds very soothing, i had system crashs several times, btw what is the problem or what it causing it ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> libpenguin, I don't recall, but it was QUITE common.  I'm still on 12.04 and had to do some extra configuring but 13.10 was supposed to work out of the box.  Lots of unhappy folk - might have been an android issue.  anyways: 14.04 next month ..
[11:32] <llutz_> monkeytoe: no that means at 2 o'clock "* */2 * * * cmd" for every 2 hrs
[11:32] <libpenguin> bekks: nautilis hangs with fan spinning at full speed and hot air, then after few seconds, full system hangup then after few seconds, msg - kernel panic occured, switching to text console and it stays there with the same msg
[11:33] <llutz_> monkeytoe:read " man 5 crontab" for more info
[11:33] <libpenguin> cfhowlett: sounds good, thnx for the news
[11:33] <monkeytoe> so it seems... * */2 * * *
[11:36] <Gryfelhase> hi kids... I'm using ubuntu 13.10... when Iinstall something that intalls a lib, I get an error message like "/libs is group enabled"
[11:36] <Gryfelhase> even when I set it manual back to root
[11:36] <Gryfelhase> next time its again my users group
[11:36] <bekks> When you set what back to root? And whats the exact message, not something like...?
[11:36] <Gryfelhase> any ideas ?
[11:37] <Gryfelhase> was yesterday...
[11:37] <Gryfelhase> I'll try to install something with lib.. one moment
[11:37] <ikonia> exact error
[11:37] <ikonia> exact symptoms
[11:37] <ikonia> exact description
[11:37] <llutz_> ikonia: wishful thinking ...
[11:41] <Gryfelhase> hrr... sorry... seems to be ok now :|  I save the text next time, if it happens
[11:41] <Gryfelhase> thx anyway... bye
[11:42] <RobDude> Ugh - well....that stinks.  In the latest version of unetbootin (585) I can't select the NTFS USB stick.  in the older version, I can have it show me everything and manually select the USB stick.  I wonder why they took away that feature
[11:42] <RobDude> Oh well - it seems to be working :)
[11:44] <Domincii> Hey, still trying to reinstall Ubuntu via an ISO in the GRUB menu, I can't seem to partition the hard drive though because I keep being told that something is mounted on /mnt/iso/ but the folder is empty when I look at it, how do I unmount it?
[11:46] <Domincii> Whenever I try to unmount it I'm told that unmount isn't a real command
[11:47] <ikonia> the command is "umount" not "unmount"
[11:47] <Domincii> wow, I'm dumb
[11:47] <Domincii> thanks
[11:49] <judekn0x> kill -9 -1
[11:51] <qwebirc50878> do you know admin of http://wyldeplayground.net/? james104?
[11:51] <Moccodo> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an old laptop. It needs non-pae, so I am using netinst-12.04. But when it should start downloading packages, it just shows a blank screen (the ubuntu color). syslogs last message is "Good signature from Ubuntu Archive automatic Signing Key". What's wrong?
[11:52] <qwebirc50878> do you know admin of http://wyldeplayground.net/? james104?
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc50878: please stop spamming that
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc50878: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:53] <ironhoof> "Ok, having a small wifi issue, broadcom BCM4312 [14e4:4315], it wont connect and keeps popping up the password screen every now, and again. When it does connect rarely it gets dropped after a few seconds.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Moccodo, you don't state the age of your "old" laptop, but you might find lubuntu or xubuntu a better choice.  the former is optimized for older hardware
[11:56] <Moccodo> cfhowlett: The problem is that it needs a non-pae installer. Where to get the one for Lubuntu? I didn't find it.
[11:56] <Moccodo> *-installer +kernel
[11:57] <tracyone> how to install library for x86 in ubuntu 14.04 amd64?sudo apt-get install ia32-libs not work
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !trusty|tracyone,
[11:57] <llutz_> tracyone: apt-get install lib:i386
[12:00] <ironhoof> and now sta refuses to install and gives a jockey error. and its falling back to wl as eth1 instead of b43 like it was i think i messed something up.
[12:01] <monkeytoe> after you modify crontab with crontab -e... is there anything you need to do to make them take effect?
[12:02] <llutz_> monkeytoe: no
[12:02] <AlanBell> monkeytoe: no, if it accepts the update as valid then it will start using it
[12:03] <monkeytoe> */10 * * * * reboot should reboot the system every 10 minutes right?
[12:03] <monkeytoe> if that cronjob was for the root user right?
[12:03] <llutz_> monkeytoe: use "/sbin/reboot"  full pathes to be on the safe side
[12:04] <ikonia> please tell me this is not some weak joke you're playing on someone to reboot their machine every 10 minutes
[12:04] <AlanBell> monkeytoe: you might want a -f on that, and it is a rather odd thing to want to do
[12:04] <tozen> ikonia: +1 think so as wel
[12:05] <monkeytoe> its not some weak joke I am playing on someone to reboot their machine every 10 minutes... I am just using reboot as my first attempt for a cron command until I have it execute a custom script
[12:05] <ikonia> reboot seems a bad test
[12:05] <llutz_> monkeytoe: using reboot for that is rather stupid
[12:05] <monkeytoe> what would be a better test?
[12:05] <ikonia> something less "agressive" seems a better way to test cron
[12:05] <llutz_> monkeytoe: date >/tmp/crontest
[12:05] <theadmin> monkeytoe: Something that just outputs a line of some sort to a file would do
[12:05] <theadmin> monkeytoe: What llutz_ said
[12:05] <AlanBell> echo "foo"> /home/me/test.ttxt
[12:05] <monkeytoe> kk
[12:08] <tmd> Hi Ubuntu. I am tweaking unity. Is there any shortcut that makes the next open window show. i.e. NOT alt-tab and alt-above-tab since these will cycle latest focused window and not take the next in line
[12:09] <ironhoof> hmm jockey says b43 is blacklisted, but its not in the blacklist
[12:09] <monkeytoe> sweet got the date printing every minute
[12:10] <monkeytoe> so 0 */2 * * * date >/tmp/crontest should print the date every 2 hours then right?
[12:10] <llutz_> monkeytoe: at minute 0, yes
[12:11] <theadmin> ironhoof: grep b43 /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf
[12:11] <theadmin> ironhoof: (might help to detect if it is blacklisted and you just didn't notice)
[12:11] <monkeytoe> if I left the first one to *, it would be 2 hours from the point the server boots right?
[12:11] <llutz_> monkeytoe: from cron start, but yes
[12:11] <ironhoof> Aright good point lemme check it
[12:12] <llutz_> monkeytoe:read " man 5 crontab" for more info
[12:12] <AlanBell> tmd: not quite sure what you mean by that? there are some changes in the z-order scrolling coming up in the next release, but right now it sort of mixes z-order and focus sequence in an odd way, you can use shift to try to go back through the sequence
[12:13] <AlanBell> tmd: there are a bunch of bugs around window handling, bug 1286784 is quite a good description of what it does and should do
[12:13] <ironhoof> the only lin in the files is # replaced by b43 and ssb.
[12:14] <ironhoof> i used an fwcutter and replaced b43 folder as shown on a website to try and make it work is it possible the module is bad?
[12:15] <eer> I am just installing Kubuntu 13.10 via USB stick on my laptop. After choosing the country time zone I am getting the error message "ubi-soncole-setup crashed, exit with code 141. Retry, if you do not your installation may fail fail entirely or may be broken". Retrying does not work though, same error. Any help?
[12:15] <theadmin> ironhoof: Eh, yes. When you "sudo modprobe b43", do you get an error?
[12:16] <theadmin> eer: Sounds like your installation media (or downloaded image) may be damaged
[12:16] <cfhowlett> eer, verify your original ISO with md5sum
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[12:16] <ironhoof> well no it doesnt actually give an error at all. it just drops back down to the command line.
[12:16] <theadmin> ironhoof: Hm, that means the module was loaded
[12:16] <theadmin> ironhoof: Try using something that requires it now, if it works as intended then you just probably need to tell it to load it at startup
[12:16] <eer> theadmin, i verified via md5sum, everything ok
[12:17] <eer> I pressed ignore for now.
[12:17] <eer> What would that error affect?
[12:17] <eer> Great. Installer crashed.
[12:17] <eer> Just now
[12:18] <theadmin> ...weeell.
[12:18] <theadmin> I have no idea what could cause it, though,not a very descriptive error
[12:19] <ironhoof_> oops, no doesnt work as intended
[12:21] <ironhoof_> infact STA just refuses to install, unless of course i purge bcmwl-kernel-sources. then it installs nearly to the end. then gives me the jockey error.
[12:22] <iQuad> hi guys
[12:22] <iQuad> Is that ubuntu help channel?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> iQuad, it is
[12:23] <cfhowlett> ironhoof_, any chance you skipped a step/package during install?
[12:23] <iQuad> uh, ok. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 4~5 hours ago, near of the Windows 8.1 UEFI. I deleted 13.10 to Install 12.04
[12:23] <cfhowlett> iQuad, actually deleted?  unnecessary -
[12:23] <iQuad> But grub is not working well, I tried everything.. boot-repair, search, grub command prompt etc
[12:24] <ironhoof_> its from driver recommendations that is proprietary. Now thats bizzare i unplugged it and its working as wl even though it said it didnt install, and as driver wl1
[12:24] <iQuad> cfhowlett: that's Ok I wanted clean install..
[12:24] <iQuad> but now grub says: "boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod"
[12:24] <cfhowlett> iQuad, OK.  for future, format your partitions before installing and they'll wipe previous OS
[12:24] <iQuad> and there is no such a directory "x86-64-efi" on /boot/grub
[12:25] <eer> After installation my laptop does not show any wireless networks. Why could that be?
[12:25] <ironhoof_> not that im complaining it says eth1 though
[12:25] <iQuad> eer, check wireless drivers
[12:26] <iQuad> cfhowlett: any idea how can I install grub with EFI support?
[12:26] <Munster> \o
[12:27] <ironhoof_> Im just going to play a few videos with it make sure its good restart. I dont care if it says eth1 instead of wlan0 as long as it works
[12:27] <deXter_> i can access systems with ip address only not with machine name
[12:27] <deXter_> how can i solve it
[12:27] <deXter_> ?
[12:27] <eer> iQuad, which setting under Kubuntu would that be. It's been a long time ...
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !efi|iQuad,
[12:28] <eer> Under network settings I only get proxy, connection prefs, etc ...
[12:28] <iQuad> eer:  try lspci | grep wlan
[12:28] <cfhowlett> iQuad, I've not had to deal with efi yet, so no expertise here
[12:28] <RobDude> Is efi the same as uefi?  Or is that something else
[12:28] <iQuad> oh, ok cfhowlett ^^
[12:28] <Munster> RobDude, the same
[12:28] <iQuad> RobDude: same, Universal EFI
[12:28] <RobDude> Ty
[12:29] <ironhoof_> my desktop has EFI and the hard-drive that came with it refuses to let linux install over the old windows efi files it puts them back. However i found if you put a old hard-drive in it it ignores it. You can try that
[12:29] <iQuad> Is there someone who knows the Install GRUB with EFI?
[12:30] <iQuad> ironhoof_: this is a problem I'm facing first time.. I am using ubuntu actively, sometimes using Windows 8
[12:30] <eer> iQuad, no output for that command doesn't grep anything
[12:30] <iQuad> Installed lots of times EFI ubuntu, but that Grub made me crazy :(
[12:30] <iQuad> eer: try Additional Drivers
[12:30] <Munster> eer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:31] <iQuad> eer: this link not for u
[12:31] <iQuad> Munster: :)
[12:31] <RobDude> I'm just a n0ob - but I couldn't get Ubuntu and Windows 8 to dual boot :(  I gave up and just removed Windows 8 completely
[12:31] <eer> Munster,  this is not an UEFI bios laptop. It is quite old.
[12:31] <deXter_> how to access machines with machine name in ubuntu
[12:31] <ironhoof_> i like new tech as the next guy, but they insist on making it very unpleasnt to work with these days
[12:32] <Munster> oops , sry eer , misread
[12:32] <iQuad> RobDude: really not hard on new Ubuntu's. after installation, open again Live CD and install boot-repair. It fixes everything himself
[12:32] <iQuad> But on 12.04, it didn't work very well, i don't know why :(
[12:32] <iQuad> Is there a grub channel? Maybe I need to go there?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !grub
[12:33] <RobDude> Ahh - yeah I went with 12.04
[12:33] <iQuad> RobDude: try 13.10 gnome ^^
[12:33] <iQuad> cfhowlett: channel?
[12:33] <Munster> RobDude, some use the legacy mode to dual boot, but in some cases one has to reinstall both OSs
[12:33] <cfhowlett> iQuad, not that I know of
[12:33] <RobDude> I'll also say, I had to update my bios to get Windows 8 to install
[12:34] <ironhoof_> i was under the impression that UEFI was the only one with secure boot, it boggles me how the EFI on my machine rewrite the old partition back with the win-EFI its stored on some chip somewhere. I am still learning it myself
[12:34] <llutz_> iQuad: /j #grub
[12:34] <iQuad> llutz_: found it thanks :)
[12:35] <RobDude> And I really think my BIOS doesn't quite support it all how it should.  For example - I still don't have a secure boot option - and now it sees my USB stick as two devices - one with UEFI and one without - but I can only boot from it if I go into the BIOS menu each time, and 'override' to the non-uefi menu listing
[12:35] <RobDude> I don't get it
[12:35] <cfhowlett> RobDude, I think MOST people don't get it.
[12:36] <iQuad> RobDude: secure boot is a bullshit.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> iQuad, language please ---
[12:36] <iQuad> cfhowlett: oops, sorry :(
[12:36] <ironhoof_> UEFI was an attempt to invent another walled garden, popular trend these days
[12:36] <slxpgd> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[12:36] <iQuad> RobDude: anyway, you should active EFI and select UEFI Stick to install UEFI windows or ubuntu
[12:43] <ironhoof_> works good even after reboot, its confused at what to call it but its probably the best i ever seen the ifi on this thing work
[12:46] <llutz_> !info friends saucy
[12:49] <browndawg1> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 & trying to install additional drivers. Problem is, it gives me this error every time I try -> SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I've tried everything from apt-get -f install to dpkg --configure -a, rebooting, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Nothing seems to work. There aren't any packages on hold. Yet I always get this error when I try to install the driver. Suggestions?
[12:52] <Zenger> Hi guys, I'm trying to install oracle java and it doesn't work. I've seen the log is redirecting with a 302 error. Does anybody know whats that about?
[12:56] <ikonia> Zenger: have you looked what a 302 error is....
[12:56] <Zenger> ikonia: It moves twice from a link to another link and lastly throws this error "sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u51-linux-x64.tar.gz"
[12:57] <ikonia> Zenger: ok, so what does that tell you....
[12:58] <Zenger> ikonia: Well yeah I realize that there is a problem with the said archive on their server. I'm asking maybe you guys have an answer of what might have happened.
[12:58] <ikonia> Zenger: we don't control the archives
[12:58] <Zenger> ikonia: I know...
[12:58] <judekn0x> kaboooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom iz here
[12:58] <ikonia> then why are you asking ?
[12:58] <Zenger> I'm just asking in case you are aware of this error and maybe have a fix for it
[12:58] <ikonia> judekn0x: please don't do that sort of silly thing
[12:59] <Zenger> or an alternative way
[12:59] <ikonia> Zenger: well, as we don't control the archives we can't update the md5sum
[12:59] <ikonia> or sha256sum
[12:59] <ikonia> Zenger: the obvious things are 1.) apt-get update ot make sure you are up to date before installing 2.) try a different mirror
[12:59] <Rickta59> i'm using ubunut 12.04 and trying to ignore a problematic usb devices storage using a .conf file in modprobe.d .. however it seems to be ignorning my quirk statement where would i look to see any related debug info?
[13:01] <Rickta59> options usb-storage quirks=0483:3744:i .. that is the line my .conf file contains
[13:06] <tracyone> "libXtst.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[13:06] <tracyone> sudo apt-get install libXtst:i386
[13:06] <tracyone> package libXtst not found
[13:06] <llutz_> !info libxtst6 | tracyone
[13:07] <theadmin> tracyone: The library name doesn't always match the package name, you can use apt-file to find the right package: apt-file find libXtst.so.6
[13:07] <theadmin> tracyone: (in this specific case, you want the one llutz_ gave you)
[13:07] <llutz_> !info apt-file | tracyone i'd suggest to use this in future to find packagenames
[13:10] <tracyone> thx I will try that
[13:20] <visva51> Hello. What method does Ubuntu software center or "apt-get" use to ensure the downloaded packages are actually from the original repository server (and not from a MITM).
[13:21] <theadmin> visva51: They are signed, the signatures are verified
[13:22] <theadmin> Same basic idea as GPG and other similar software
[13:22] <Pessimist> visva51, this is probably what you're looking for: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
[13:26] <cybrNaut> is the live ISO a hybrid?  IOW, must I use unetbootin, or can the ISO simply be dd'd?
[13:26] <llutz_> cybrNaut: dd works its hybrid
[13:26] <theadmin> cybrNaut: They are hybrid since 10.04 I think?
[13:26] <cybrNaut> thanks
[13:27] <theadmin> cybrNaut: This also applies to all other Ubuntu images, not just the LiveCD. The server CD, the minimal CD, and the DVDs are all hybrid, as well as official derivatives like Kubuntu, Lubuntu and Xubuntu.
[13:29] <cybrNaut> cool
[13:29] <cybrNaut> i like that.. so I can add another partition for the rest of the disk space
[13:29] <theadmin> cybrNaut: (btw, you can make an image hybrid by running "isohybrid something.iso")
[13:29] <theadmin> cybrNaut: Uh, not really, you have to dd directly to the drive, not to a partition
[13:30] <cybrNaut> theadmin: yeah, i do that with my own debian remasterings... but I wasn't sure how reliable it was in general.. there are lots of scary options about number of cylinders and the like
[13:30] <cybrNaut> i dd directly to the drive, then I add a partition.  It works for debian, anyway
[13:30] <cybrNaut> will try with ubuntu
[13:31] <visva51> theadmin Pessimist Is secureapt default in Ubuntu? Or should I have to enable it somehow?
[13:31] <cybrNaut> i should qualify that though.. sometimes gparted sees the whole space as "unallocated"
[13:31] <theadmin> visva51: It's been default since forever
[13:31] <theadmin> visva51: You don't have to worry, APT is secure.
[13:31] <theadmin> ...well, not since forever, but for a looong time now
[13:33] <visva51> theadmin: Thanks, that's good to know, I was worried if an M.I.T.M can acquire my apt-get request and send me his own packages instead. Thank you!
[13:33] <cybrNaut> ah shit.. not gonna work with ubuntu.  after running "dd if=ubuntu_live.iso of=/dev/sdb", fdisk cannot work with /dev/sdb because it's GPT.  And gparted sees the whole drive as unallocated.
[13:34] <llutz_> cybrNaut: use parted
[13:34] <dell__> ls
[13:34] <theadmin> cybrNaut: You can use the official Ubuntu usb creator tool (usb-creator-gtk), it allows to have space for your own data
[13:34] <dell__> who has?
[13:35] <dell__> No body in hear?
[13:35] <theadmin> dell__: ...Uh, plenty of people
[13:35] <cybrNaut> llutz_: will try.. i've not used that before
[13:36] <visva51> dell__: Ask your question. You don't need to ask - to ask a question.
[13:36] <llutz_> wasn't fdisk meant to get an update for handling gpt-devices...  thought so
[13:36] <theadmin> llutz_: gfdisk I think
[13:37] <llutz_> theadmin: hmm, can be
[13:37] <theadmin> llutz_: Not 100% sure
[13:38] <llutz_> theadmin: doesn't matter, parted handles both :)
[13:39] <theadmin> llutz_: True :)
[13:39] <visva51> theadmin: Why is it that gparted goes away after installing ubuntu? Why do I have reinstall it?
[13:39] <theadmin> visva51: It's not usually necessary on a final install -- after all, you can't deal with mounted partitions and stuff, normally GParted is used from live media
[13:48] <visva51> theadmin: ok, thanks for the info.
[13:49] <cybrNaut> llutz_: parted does not work either.  It sees the media as corrupted, and cannot even print the partition table.  This may be an artifact of how isohybrid works
[13:49] <cybrNaut> i will have to use usb-creator-gtk it seems
[13:50] <cybrNaut> i've seen this work with debian before... but now i cannot repeat it.. same issue
[14:10] <fa7ad> guys suggest a good IDE for c++ on ubuntu
[14:11] <fa7ad> im used to devc++ and microsoft studio
[14:11] <fa7ad> but those doesnt seem to work on wine
[14:11] <DJones> !ide | fa7ad Not something I use, but the bot has a few suggestions,
[14:12] <xan__> eclipse with cdt
[14:12] <fa7ad> is there a version of netbeans for linux? i want an ide for php too
[14:13] <fa7ad> sorry didnt see *ignore please*
[14:15] <lenzeor> What is the correct channel for ubuntu phone?
[14:16] <aeon-ltd> !phone
[14:16] <aeon-ltd> lenzeor: see above
[14:16] <lenzeor> Thank you, good sir! :)
[14:17] <fa7ad> !ide
[14:20] <Keanu73> hi, where's the ubuntu commands page
[14:24] <fa7ad> !help
[14:24] <fa7ad> !patience
[14:26] <AlexPortable> How can I prevent WiFi from being enabled every time I reboot?
[14:26] <ThomasBS> trying to install ubuntu server via USB stick on an old laptop.. Keep getting stuck at the "SYSLINUX 4.03 2010 COPYRIGHT (...)" line at the start. Tried every god damn solution I could find on the web.. Anyone mastered to conquer this famous bug?!!
[14:26] <AlexPortable> i rightclicked network icon and clicked 'disable networking'
[14:27] <llutz_> AlexPortable: add "/usr/sbin/rfkill block wifi"  to /etc/rc.local (above the "exit 0" line)
[14:29] <AlexPortable> isn't there some gui option
[14:29] <AlexPortable> to reenable it ?
[14:29] <AlexPortable> becasue when i need wifi (when lan is down) i probably won't remember that line
[14:29] <llutz_> AlexPortable: sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[14:30] <AlexPortable> GUI option
[14:30] <llutz_> AlexPortable: no idea
[14:38] <someHuman> Have you guys seen the new Linux Format?
[14:38] <Korkel> Hi.
[14:40] <Korkel> Is there a way I can contact the admins of the Ubuntu forum?
[14:48] <angela-> hi all das anyone know what nau yhe newest ubuntu are?
[15:00] <Chuck_Norris> are we the best comunity in the world?
[15:00] <IdleOne> not even close
[15:01] <Chuck_Norris> ;)
[15:01] <IdleOne> but this is the wrong channel to discuss it. #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like joining
[15:02] <Chuck_Norris> no ty, one time i joined in that channel, and... i never will be there again -.-
[15:02] <Chuck_Norris> it was mah worst nightmare
[15:03] <m1chael> i'm on ubuntu, i'm sshing in to one server, and then sshing in to another server. my nano colors are dark with the syntax highlighting,etc. how can i make it all white? it's killing my eyes
[15:06] <krizoek> hi. i have a problem with a virtual server. something is eating up the available "inodes". being a limit to the number of files i can have. how do i find out what folder is doing so? like yesterday i could have 8000 files more, and today it was already eaten up
[15:11] <oopain> hey :) i like to know which user i have to choose for the cronjob of owncloud "crontab -u [USER] -e" "*/5  *  *  *  * php -f /var/www/owncloud/cron.php > /dev/null 2>&1"
[15:13] <kartikey> i just managed to get a ubuntu and win7 dual boot
[15:13] <tracyone> :-D
[15:13] <kartikey> but the very first time i booted them win 7 is giving disk read error and ubuntu is not booting only a blinking cursor :(
[15:13] <kartikey> what is the problem
[15:14] <kartikey> i think it's somethink to do with the boot loader
[15:14] <cfhowlett> kartikey, can't help with windows.
[15:14] <kartikey> ok
[15:14] <cfhowlett> kartikey, but I'd guess your grub went haywire
[15:14] <kartikey> so how can i recover that
[15:14] <cfhowlett> kartikey, reinstall
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !grub
[15:16] <frahman> how should i fixed this problem -> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   aptdaemon: Depends: python-aptdaemon (= 0.11+bzr322-0ubuntu1) but 0.11+bzr345-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[15:16] <frahman> can someone help me?
[15:16] <k1l> frahman: get rid of the PPAs that make that chaos
[15:16] <k1l> with ppa-purge
[15:18] <frahman> kll:  how to get help here?
[15:19] <frahman> hello... can someone help me
[15:21] <xan__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[15:23] <oopain> frahman, i like to ask something .... ask and dont ask for asking. :)
[15:24] <oopain> frahman, if you like to ask something .... ask and dont ask for asking. :)
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !ask|frahman,
[15:26] <sonnenkind> \whois sonnenkind
[15:27] <dorsatum> hi, I'm getting an unmet dependencies error when it comes to installing libgles2-mesa-dev, any ideas?
[15:28] <ikonia> depends what's unmet and why
[15:30] <dorsatum> ikonia: libgles2-mesa-dev : Depends: libgles2-mesa (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.7)  this is what i get as a message
[15:30] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is this ?
[15:31] <dorsatum> ikonia: 12.04, 64 bit
[15:31] <ikonia> dorsatum: do you have any ppa's or 3rd party repos
[15:31] <ikonia> (or have you used any)
[15:32] <dorsatum> ikonia: for sublime text 2, a ppa for that
[15:36] <dorsatum> ikonia: any idea?
[15:37] <ikonia> dorsatum: have you used any others at all at any time on this install ?
[15:39] <dorsatum> ikonia: i checked via the software centre. I've added ppa's for sublime text and ubuntu tweak other than that seems clean. plus, I recently changed to 64 bit, so it's relatively new
[15:39] <ikonia> "changed" to 64bit, how did you change to 64bit
[15:41] <dorsatum> ikonia:  my bad. what I meant was that I recently installed the 64 bit version. On my machine I had the 32 bit version till about 3 weeks back, had to change for a project, removed it and installed the 64 bit one.
[15:41] <oopain> hey :) i like to know which user i have to choose for the cronjob of owncloud "crontab -u [USER] -e" "*/5  *  *  *  * php -f /var/www/owncloud/cron.php > /dev/null 2>&1"
[15:41] <ikonia> oopain: any user you want
[15:42] <ikonia> dorsatum: ok, so on the current installs what PPA's or 3rd party repos have been used at any point in time
[15:43] <dorsatum> ikonia: vala, sublime text and ubuntu tweak
[15:44] <ikonia> dorsatum: I don't see anything obvious that would install conflicts, but it is the most likely cause
[15:44] <ikonia> run apt-cache policy against the packages and make sure they are all coming from main ubuntu repos, not the PPAs
[15:48] <dorsatum> ikonia: how can I check if it is coming from the main repo? c=main?
[15:48] <ikonia> dorsatum: I just told you how
[15:49] <daum> hi guys - i'm trying to setup raid 1 on my ubuntu, following http://foivos.zakkak.net/tuts/ubuntu_1304_raid1_setup  when i restart and select 'temp' from grub i get that it can't find rood md/1  any ideas on what is incorrect?
[15:49] <dorsatum> ikonia: i ran the command and I have a list of all the package files. What I'd like to know is how I can check if those packages are from the main repo :)
[15:49] <ikonia> dorsatum: run it against a package
[15:53] <Yakisoba> Hi :) please recommend me a program to listen Online Radio (Ubuntu 12 04) thanks
[15:53] <ikonia> a web browser ?
[15:53] <cfhowlett> Yakisoba, see the software center for streaming audio pograms
[15:54] <rypervenche> Yakisoba: You can use most music players for that, like VLC.
[15:55] <Yakisoba> to all: Thanks.... but i want 1000+ pre installed radio streams to listen... in Rhitmobox for example almost 20 radio :(
[15:56] <Chuck_Norris>  Yakisoba:  radiotray
[15:56] <Yakisoba> Chuck_Norris: Thanks :)
[15:57] <Chuck_Norris> np
[15:57] <dorsatum> ikonia: repos check out. any other idea?
[15:57] <ikonia> dorsatum: what do you mean check out
[15:57] <ikonia> dorsatum: which package did you check ?
[15:57] <dorsatum> ikonia: sublime text, ubuntu tweak and vala
[15:58] <ikonia> they are not packages
[15:58] <ikonia> I told you to check the individual packges, eg: the ones you are trying to install and depend on
[15:58] <ikonia> you've just listed repo names
[15:59] <dorsatum> ikonia: i'm sorry, i misunderstood
[16:01] <Chuck_Norris> http://audio.radiognu.org/radiognu.ogg  -.-
[16:01] <frahman> TQVM
[16:02] <dorsatum> ikonia: the package ibgles2-mesa-dev depends on is libgles2-mesa. when i ran the command against Installed (none) was printed. Is it possible that because it is not installed this error is raised?
[16:02] <dorsatum> *libgles2 sorry
[16:04] <ikonia> dorsatum: it should install it if it depeneds on it
[16:04] <ikonia> dorsatum: try installing that package manually if you want to see why it's not installing it
[16:05] <Kolahzary> hello,
[16:05] <riverloop> Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this: Recently I installed pantheon-desktop in my ubuntu 12.04 installation. But, when I log into pantheon desktop, the unity sidebar is also shown. How can I get rid of that?
[16:05] <dorsatum> ikonia: hmm. i'll do that, thank you :) If it doesn't work, may I ping you back with the error result?
[16:05] <Kolahzary> can you give me a link to latest version of ubuntu?
[16:05] <DJones> Kolahzary: www.ubuntu.com and click the download button
[16:06] <sergey> Hello everybody
[16:06] <AlanBell> riverloop: you would have to ask the pantheon people I think
[16:06] <sergey> Is it possible to add support for Framebuffer Console Decorations in Ubuntu? I could not find actual Fbcondecor patch.
[16:06] <Kolahzary> oh, ThanX, i'm new to ubuntu!
[16:06] <riverloop> AlanBell, do you think an irc channel exists for them?
[16:06] <riverloop> Anyways thanks!
[16:07] <Kolahzary> i will be the best soon :D
[16:07] <AlanBell> riverloop: it is part of elementaryOS or something, they probably have a channel
[16:07] <riverloop> Okay.
[16:08] <AlanBell> riverloop: #elementary it would appear
[16:08] <riverloop> AlanBell: Thanks!
[16:09] <MartynKeigher2> hey all.. Quick Q: in your opinion, what is the best torrent download client for Ubuntu?
[16:10] <Chuck_Norris> MartynKeigher2, Utorrent :p
[16:10] <MartynKeigher2> i see most have web gui's, but which one can support downloading via RSS feeds?
[16:10] <daum> or if its easier anyone mind helping me setup raid on an running ubuntu?
[16:10] <MartynKeigher2> i use utorrent for windows, and have done for years!
[16:11] <Chuck_Norris> oh! i meant Transmission :P
[16:11] <sergey> KTorrent 4ever
[16:11] <MartynKeigher2> rss feeds supported?? Chuck_Norris ?
[16:11] <Chuck_Norris> MartynKeigher2, idk
[16:11] <MartynKeigher2> wow.. am i REALLY speaking with Chuck_Norris?? lol
[16:11] <Chuck_Norris> ye, i know you are glad -.-
[16:12] <MartynKeigher2> very! lol
[16:12] <MartynKeigher2> so.. Transmission vs. Ktorrent: do either support rss?
[16:12] <Chuck_Norris> uget, get support for magnet links recently
[16:12] <Korkel> Hello. :)
[16:12] <sergey> Ktorrent does support rss
[16:12] <Korkel> Is there a way I can contact the forumadmins of the Ubuntu forums?
[16:13] <MartynKeigher2> ah sweet! my idea is... DL on linux and then view on plex or somehting on my appletv.
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Korkel, every channel list the admins.  contact via email
[16:14] <Korkel> cfhowlett: got an email adres, or where can I find it?
[16:14] <DJones> Korkel: The Ubuntu Forums have a social channel at #ubuntuforums, you may find somebody there, but generally I suspect you'd have to get in touch with them by email address from the forum web pages
[16:14] <Korkel> Thanks. ;)
[16:14] <MartynKeigher2> i'll check out ktorrent! thanks.
[16:26] <mel|> hi
[16:28] <mel|> i'd like to install ubuntu on my samsung series 7 notebook
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !arm
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !touch
[16:29] <cfhowlett> see the touch channel
[16:29] <mel|> was that meant for me?
[16:30] <cfhowlett> indeed yes
[16:30] <mel|> touch?
[16:31] <DJones> cfhowlett: Samsung Series 7 is intel i5 (from memory), not ARM
[16:31] <cfhowlett> DJones, got it.  thanks.
[16:32] <mel|> i have a np770z5e
[16:32] <mel|> read about problems with uefi bugs bricking the device
[16:33] <mel|> i dont care much about the preinstalled windows 8
[16:33] <mel|> so dualboot would not be an issue
[16:33] <cfhowlett> ow.  sorry.  I thought I read you were installing on a tablet.  regular ubuntu not touch
[16:33] <mel|> are there other known problems?
[16:34] <mel|> can someone point me to a good tutorial?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> bricking issues were supposedly fixed with an emergency kernel fix
[16:35] <cfhowlett> !installation
[16:36] <Munster> mel|, if you want to avoid UEFI issues set the EFI/bios to legacy mode and prepartition your drive to ext4, with optional /, /home and swap partiitions using gparted live media
[16:37] <dorsatum> ikonia:manual installation worked. thanks :)
[16:38] <mel|> Munster: are there any downsides to this?
[16:39] <Munster> mel|, personally I haven't found any so far.
[16:39] <mel|> thx
[16:40] <ddman> how do i create more than 255 loop devices ?
[16:41] <jhutchins> ddman: Why?
[16:41] <jhutchins> ddman: What are you actually trying to do?
[16:41] <ddman> jhutchins, i want to create filesystem entries
[16:42] <ddman> i want to test scale to the limit of 10000
[16:42] <ddman> i have 10000 files ext2
[16:42] <ddman> i want to mount them
[16:42] <raj__> to make my iptables rules permananent (survive reboots) could I create a bash script & execute it via rc.local ?
[16:42] <raj__> is this a good strategy ?
[16:43] <jhutchins> raj__: There are other ways, but that will work.
[16:43] <jhutchins> raj__: Remember to put your 'deny all' rule first.
[16:44] <raj__> jhutchins: yes, I set policy to deny, regarding this restore approach, are there any downsides to this ?
[16:44] <raj__> will it work in all cases ?
[16:44] <jhutchins> raj__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[16:45] <raj__> i cant use ufw or iptables -peristent as it does not work for me
[16:45] <raj__> shared kernel
[16:46] <jhutchins> raj__: iptables is a kernel thing no matter how you do it.
[16:46] <jhutchins> raj__: If it's a shared system you should contact whoever manages it and see what the firewall policies are.
[16:47] <jhutchins> raj__: It is best to run the firewall upstream of the server - running it on the server itself is really a Windows thing and not good practice, because the packets must all reach the kernel anyway.
[16:47] <raj__> I could see through iptables -L & even try out checking..not sufficient for me
[16:47] <raj__> so i do need to configure
[16:47] <raj__> ..my own
[16:48] <eer> When I try to download Ubuntu 13.10 32 bit from ubuntu..com I am always offered Ubuntu 12.04.4.iso. Any idea?
[16:48] <cfhowlett> eer, go to ubuntu.com downloads page
[16:50] <xangua> eer: sounds like you have an addon that disables javascript
[16:50] <raj__> jhutchins: my host wont chnage anything for me..i could see all open ports that I want to close, & on a shared kernel vps, wont my iptables be as effective as on...?
[16:51] <eer> Where is the Ubuntu download page? I can only find a frop down menu that chooses the version.
[16:51] <cfhowlett> eer|http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[16:52] <raj__> do I make it anyway less safe running those rules on  my server rather than if host directly implemented ?
[16:52] <eer> How exactly does the network installer work?  I spend all day trying to install Kubuntu from USB stick but the installer always crashed.
[16:52] <cfhowlett> !server|raj__,
[16:52] <raj__> I think kernel has namespaces so my iptable rules must be running in those kernel namespaces, no ?
[16:52] <eer> Is there a network installer for Kubuntu and if yes, how do I use it?
[16:53] <raj__> ubottu: I suppose it was not for me.. :)
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !pxe|raj__,
[16:54] <cfhowlett> raj__,    http://www.howtogeek.com/61263/how-to-network-boot-pxe-the-ubuntu-livecd/
[16:55] <raj__> jhutchins;   do I make it anyway less safe running those rules on  my server rather than if host directly implemented ?  I think kernel has namespaces so my iptable rules must be running in those kernel namespaces, no ?
[16:57] <pkhaxorz> how do I log out. not change user, actually log out.
[16:57] <pkhaxorz> like
[16:58] <pkhaxorz> via key commands
[16:58] <jrib> pkhaxorz: you mean a keyboard shortcut?
[16:58] <pkhaxorz> yeah
[16:58] <pkhaxorz> that's the terminology
[16:58] <pkhaxorz> Actually logging out refreshes unity in a way that I need.
[16:59] <pkhaxorz> or as a terminal command
[17:05] <pkhaxorz> never mind. my windows reflexes popped back in, and hit control alt delete from CLI.
[17:06] <jrib> pkhaxorz: that brought you to a log in screen?
[17:07] <pkhaxorz> no. that brought me to rebooting my computer
[17:07] <pkhaxorz> by accident
[17:07] <jrib> pkhaxorz: ok
[17:07] <pkhaxorz> ah well, nothing of importance was on anyway. :P
[17:07] <gabmus> hello, anyone active?
[17:08] <pkhaxorz> yeah, sorta
[17:08] <pkhaxorz> why?
[17:08] <gabmus> i'd need some help
[17:08] <pkhaxorz> with?
[17:09] <gabmus> ubuntu 14.04 and gnome-shell 3.11
[17:09] <gabmus> pretty messy
[17:09] <pkhaxorz> yeah, can't help you there.
[17:09] <Pessimist> !ubuntu+1
[17:09] <Pessimist> !trusty
[17:10] <whoever> gabmus: and m$ winblows sux , can you give use more info then just messy
[17:10] <gabmus> its difficult to explain lemme take a photo
[17:11] <RobDude> (off-topic but...)Wow - it's really amazing how using something other than Windows changes your perspective on things.  I've installed Windows on my netbook 5-6 times and never once noticed or complained that I needed to download 112mb file for audio drivers.  112mb to play sound on a netbook.  lol
[17:11] <RobDude> I had Ubuntu on it before and the sound just worked, no problems
[17:11] <daum> i'm following http://foivos.zakkak.net/tuts/ubuntu_1304_raid1_setup , however i only have two partitions (/ and swap)...when it has me reboot i get an error on grub saying i must load kerne first
[17:12] <gabmus> wait for it, my ISP refuses to collaborate
[17:12] <rkokkelk> Hi guys, is there an easy way of executing script on interface up, or do I have to write a systemctl service?
[17:13] <Guest10838> can someone help me with data recovery? I m new to this
[17:13] <pkhaxorz> sure.
[17:13] <gabmus> http://i.imgur.com/g2O4GLL.jpg
[17:14] <gabmus> the wallpaper gets "cropped" in an awkward way
[17:14] <gabmus> this only happens if I let nautilus manage the wallpaper
[17:14] <Pessimist> rkokkelk, this should probably help you: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[17:14] <gabmus> moreover, desktop icons get under the panel
[17:14] <whoever> gabmus: ok setings> display  or settings > appearance
[17:15] <Pessimist> gabmus, so fill a bug report. Also you won't get any answers here because you are using 14.04 and a very new version of gnome-shell
[17:15] <whoever> gabmus: check you display settings,
[17:15] <rkokkelk> Pessimist: thanks, unfortunattly I post the question on the wrong channeld, it was meant for ArchLinux, but thanks anyway!
[17:15] <Pessimist> gabmus, it's not even in archlinux stable repositories
[17:16] <gabmus> what, really? D:
[17:16] <whoever> Pessimist: for what its worth i used 14.04 and didn't have that prob, i had compatability issues
[17:16] <gabmus> whatever, my display settings are fine, the resolution is correct and so are the detected monitors
[17:17] <gabmus> also, this awkward crop also happens on my notebook with only one screen
[17:17] <dante123> hi all, bro in law wants me to install mint on a couple of xp computers?  If I install beta for 14.04 is the upgrade easy to stable LTS version?  Or should I put 13.10 on?
[17:17] <larry_> i ve a laptop with a 32 bit ubuntu os and it can easily handle 64 bit but instead of intalling a whole new os can i just make the speed the same as a 64 bit os?
[17:17] <whoever> gabmus: ok, i as going for the most common  reason why you would have that,  then file a bug
[17:17] <dante123> hi all, meant to say ubuntu
[17:17] <Pessimist> dante123, you just upgrade it and then when 14.04 is officially released you will get the 'official' version
[17:18] <larry_> i have a laptop with a 32 bit ubuntu os and it can easily handle 64 bit but instead of intalling a whole new os can i just make the speed the same as a 64 bit os?
[17:18] <gabmus> then another thing: gnome crashes, gets blurry like a bad quality jpeg and my keyboard layout switches to english with no possibility to revert it except reboot
[17:18] <dante123> Pessimist, so upgrade is pretty straightforward after the beta?
[17:18] <Pessimist> gabmus, so fill a bug report. Why are you still asking this?
[17:18] <dante123> he's not very technically minded and wants the simplest route
[17:18] <gabmus> lel got it, ill revert to gnome 3.10 asap
[17:18] <whoever> gabmus: I would say wait for the official
[17:19] <gabmus> getting officially new packages on ubuntu means waiting for the next release
[17:19] <dante123> I'm inclined to install the beta, and then he just upgrades when the time comes and doesnt need me for anything.
[17:19] <dante123> otherwise he will want me to come down again
[17:19] <whoever> gabmus: or roll then yourself
[17:21]  * whoever hopes gabmus reverts to 12.04 and just waits 30 days 
[17:21] <gabmus> please, explain your last post whoever
[17:21] <gabmus> ahah, no. its not a 14.04 problem, it's a gnome 3.11 problem
[17:21] <whoever> gabmus: you wait for them, or you can get the source code, and compile them
[17:22] <gabmus> or i can just use the gnome3-staging ppa as i am already doing
[17:22] <gabmus> i know i shouldnt even complain about bugs, but i hoped this was a known bug i could solve
[17:22] <milkox> Hi all! can somebody help me to compile ?
[17:22] <Pessimist> !ask
[17:24] <milkox> Want to cmpile an get an error: fatal error: boost/random/uniform_int_didtributin.hpp: No such file or directory
[17:24] <milkox> Compilation terminated.
[17:24] <milkox> i read some forum libbost all dev is installed
[17:24] <milkox> libbost random installed too
[17:26] <Guest49813> hi
[17:27] <whoever> hi Guest49813
[17:27] <whoever> gabmus: you could try the ubuntu dev but not sure they would be much help
[17:27] <gabmus> nah, i just reverted to 3.10
[17:28] <gabmus> gotta reboot, lets see if it worked
[17:28] <gabmus> thank you all for the help btw *i cant use smiley face since my layout changed*
[17:28] <paul__> hi
[17:29] <paul__> any one  here
[17:29] <paul__> you  ?
[17:29] <miraiE> hi
[17:29] <raj__> which folder should be used for storing data to be used freely by all users(or preferably sudoers) of system ?
[17:32] <gabmus> im back
[17:33] <gabmus> yeah, the problem was gnome 3.11. as i suspected 14.04 is already rock solid and stable
[17:33] <Pessimist> raj__, make a directory and make it readable/writeable by all users?
[17:33] <gabmus> 3.10 works like a charm. but i already miss 3.11
[17:33] <a1fa> what is the best desktop enviroment for newbs to transition from win7 to ubuntu?
[17:33] <miraiE> a1fa try KDE
[17:33] <raj__> Pessimist: in the root directory '/' ?
[17:34] <gabmus> a1fa maybe lxde, or kde if you want to rice it much
[17:34] <a1fa> miraiE: too bloated
[17:34] <a1fa> gabmus: i am trying with xfce, but it may be too plain
[17:34] <gabmus> kde isn't bloated
[17:34] <gabmus> it's one of the best des out there
[17:34] <a1fa> gabmus: its not?
[17:34] <gabmus> if you have time to rice it, it isn't
[17:35] <a1fa> how about xfce+docky?
[17:35] <gabmus> maybe just a little bit, still love it. as now i'm sticking with gnome, don't really know why, but i love kde's customizability
[17:35] <Pessimist> raj__, something like /share? It shouldn't be in any other because every directory in / already has a function
[17:35] <miraiE> what do you want with that DE a1fa? maybe the appearance?
[17:35] <gabmus> a1fa forget a de that is identical to windows
[17:35] <a1fa> miraiE: yes
[17:36] <gabmus> designers dont like it
[17:36] <a1fa> this is for a college student
[17:36] <gabmus> its old and un-innovative
[17:36] <a1fa> (girl) going from win7 to xfce
[17:36] <a1fa> she may not like it
[17:36] <gabmus> i still think kde is a pretty solid choice
[17:36] <raj__> Pessimist: i dont have /share by default, should I just create it ?
[17:36] <gabmus> grills actually use gnu+linux?
[17:36] <a1fa> i'll try with xfce and docky first
[17:37] <raj__> I basically want to store some scripts..usable by all sudoers
[17:37] <gabmus> that's far from "similar to windows"
[17:37] <raj__> Pessimist: I basically want to store some scripts..usable by all sudoers
[17:37] <gabmus> that's closer to osx
[17:37] <a1fa> she may like that
[17:37] <gabmus> moreover, i tried the xfce+docky combination on my notebook, and it really sucks
[17:37] <interweb> Is it bad to use airodump-ng with sudo ?
[17:38] <gabmus> maybe she likes unity better?
[17:38] <a1fa> anyway, she has a hitachi hd with 32gb ssd cache.. how do i know this is working?
[17:38] <a1fa> is this a hardware layer acceleration?
[17:38] <interweb> hello
[17:39] <gabmus> the thing is, docky isnt that much supported anymore, it acts awkwardly: if you have a chrome icon on the dock, and open it, since it is a separated instance, you see two chrome icons on the dock
[17:39] <gabmus> its a mess
[17:39] <Pessimist> a1fa, or maybe you should tell that windows isn't gnu/linux and let her choose what she wants?
[17:39] <gabmus> ^
[17:40] <demophobia> I've got xchat open but it's not showing in my alt+tab list. What causes that?
[17:40] <gabmus> i think gnome-shell is idiot proof. also it works like many smartphone/tablet GUIs, so she could find it familiar after a while
[17:40] <demophobia> I'm going to try restarting xchat to see if that solves the problem.
[17:40] <interweb> Is it right way to use airodump-ng with sudo
[17:40] <interweb> ?
[17:41] <gabmus> if you want something 100% windows-user-proof, go with lxde, there's no way she could have any problem. maybe you can change the wm to xfwm or even compiz, to make it nicer
[17:41] <Pessimist> demophobia, a bug. Try hexchat -- a xchat fork
[17:41] <interweb> gabmus, I think kde looks more like windows
[17:41] <Tom1> xfce is the best desktop environment
[17:41] <demophobia> Pessimist, restarting seems to have solved the alt+tab listing problem. Thanks, I'll look at it ...
[17:42] <whoever> a1fa: you could always skin it to look like windows
[17:42] <a1fa> whoever: hiding in plain site :0
[17:42] <Tom1> xfce is very fast and stable
[17:42] <gabmus> interweb, kde is awesome, but too complicated for a novice.
[17:42] <Tom1> kde is little bit buggy
[17:42] <gabmus> uh, wait a minute: xubuntu 14.04 has a launcher that makes it look exactly like windows, but with the panel on the top
[17:43] <interweb> Tom1, Buggy ! Are you kidding me ?
[17:43] <gabmus> move the panel down and you have windows
[17:43] <homecable> any one gaming on steam with linux ?
[17:43] <whoever> a1fa: so why does she want to go from win7 to xfce ? thats quite a jump
[17:43] <gabmus> steam with GNU+Linux please
[17:43] <gabmus> homecable yes i do
[17:43] <a1fa> whoever: her laptop broke
[17:44] <a1fa> whoever: college student + people using her laptop + porn == trojans
[17:44] <homecable> gabmus what windows manger u using
[17:44] <gabmus> a1fa is her your gf or a friend?
[17:44] <a1fa> a friend
[17:44] <milkox> Hi all! can somebody help me to compile ?
[17:44] <milkox> Want to cmpile an get an error: fatal error: boost/random/uniform_int_didtributin.hpp: No such file or directory
[17:44] <gabmus> homecable mutter, because im using gnome shell
[17:44] <a1fa> actually, my exchange student
[17:44] <milkox> i read some forum libbost all dev is installed
[17:44] <whoever> a1fa: so it only has a 32gb ssd
[17:44] <milkox> libbost random installed too
[17:44] <a1fa> whoever: 500gb hd + 32gb ssd cache
[17:45] <whoever> and its a netbook or notebook ?
[17:45] <gabmus> a1fa you know she WILL have problems and ask you for like 2-3 years
[17:45] <a1fa> HpP ENVY4
[17:45] <gabmus> a1fa you mean an hybrid hdd/ssd?
[17:45] <gabmus> it is dirt simple
[17:45] <whoever> a1fa: so is it broken or did the os just crash
[17:45] <Oog> im wkhtmltoimage (webkit rendering) on ubuntu 13.10 - antialiasing isn't happening. any ideas how to turn it on? how do i enable AA in ubuntu 13.10?
[17:45] <gabmus> its like 2 drives
[17:45] <a1fa> whoever: os crashed and disk corrupted
[17:46] <gabmus> a1fa, disk corrupted or file system corrupted? there's a lot of difference
[17:46] <a1fa> gabmus: file system afaik
[17:46] <homecable> gabmus what install did u use
[17:46] <gabmus> thats no problem then
[17:46] <homecable> im looking for a clean install no bloat
[17:46] <milkox> Hi all! How can i compile? i get an error: fatal error: boost/random/uniform_int_didtributin.hpp: No such file or directory How can i solve this? anyone can help me?
[17:46] <whoever> a1fa: then the easiest fix would be to reformat the disk, you'll lose all that is on it, install windows 7 and also install avast anti virus , it is free, there is a registration
[17:47] <gabmus> homecable assuming with "install" you mean "os", i installed ubuntu gnome 13.10 and upgraded to 14.04 today
[17:47] <Pessimist> milkox, http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[17:47] <whoever> a1fa: and unless there in something else that I am missing will solve the problem
[17:47] <gabmus> whoever, let him try this, it could be nice
[17:47] <gabmus> so a1fa, boot a livecd and open up gparted
[17:48] <a1fa> i already got her files backed up
[17:48] <interweb> I used airmon-ng with sudo , should I re install ubuntu ?
[17:48] <a1fa> i think she will be happy with xubuntu
[17:48] <a1fa> ;)
[17:48] <Tom1> i find puppy linux also good distro
[17:48] <gabmus> see if the ssd and the hdd are seen as different drives (ex: sda and sdb) if they are, just use the ssd with / mount point and the hdd with /home mount point.
[17:48] <whoever> gabmus: yes it could but in all cases I have had where they have screwed up window and try linux , they spend less then an hour and want windos back because they do not want to learn anuthing new
[17:48] <gabmus> also make sure to make a swap partition on the hdd with the same size of the ram she has
[17:49] <interweb> gabmus, I used airmon-ng with sudo , should I re install ubuntu ?
[17:49] <Tom1> gabmus: don;t u think using ext4 filesystem on a ssd may wear out it very quickly ?
[17:50] <gabmus> uhm...
[17:50] <gabmus> never owned an ssd
[17:50] <gabmus> you have to enable trimming or whatever its called
[17:50] <whoever> gabmus:  would dual booting be any better then a vm
[17:50] <Tom1> gabmus:ssd are a lot like flashdrivers, though ssds are much faster
[17:51] <gabmus> dual booting is way faster, but not as practical
[17:51] <interweb> Could anyone help me with this problem ? Does it damage the security of my ubuntu using airmon-ng with sudo ?
[17:51] <Korkel> Hello.
[17:51] <Tom1> they say that using ext4 on pendrive will kill the pendrive very quickly because ext4 is journaling filessytem
[17:51] <gabmus> disable journaling
[17:51] <whoever> gabmus: ya , either way you'll loose something
[17:52] <gabmus> whoever: if you have a powerful pc, a vm WILL be fine
[17:52] <aaa801> how can i set a library load path when im running a program from shell ?
[17:52] <Tom1> gabmus:but then it would be more like older ext2 filesystem isnt? ext4 is robust because of journaling feature.
[17:52] <gabmus> dunno, use something else
[17:53] <whoever> gabmus: using gparted to set the partitions seems like an unneeded step, i would install win and create my two logicals there
[17:54] <whoever> gabmus: most notebooks now have quad core and 6-8GB ram so you would be fine
[17:54] <gabmus> http://superuser.com/questions/228657/which-linux-filesystem-works-best-with-ssd
[17:55] <gabmus> i still have a swap partition on my desktop pc
[17:55] <gabmus> it MIGHT come in handy when running vms
[17:57] <mrpizzaface> Dose anyone here know how to fix a Glitch with pulse audio? i am unable to talk in a skype call unless i switch the audio output/input to Input instad of Duplex ?
[17:57] <whoever> mrpizzaface: why not use alsa
[17:58] <gabmus> apparently i dont know much about hard drives, file systems and partitioning. i completely missed the difference between logical and primary partition. well, it's always a good time to learn
[17:58] <mrpizzaface> cant get skype to start using ALSA sound drivers i have even used the trick to force ALSA on skype and i still get PulseAudio taking it over
[17:59] <gabmus> the sound system on gnu+linux is a hell of a mess
[17:59] <gabmus> i have to admit it, im sorry
[17:59] <mrpizzaface> i agree
[18:00] <mrpizzaface> i really cant stand using linux for the life of me but since win8 Defender fried my laptop Sata controller theres no way for the to run windows
[18:00] <bhavesh> mrpizzaface: I am sure you tried this ? https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10964/can-i-change-the-sound-system-used-by-skype-for-linux#disable_pulse
[18:00] <gabmus> on my desktop it detects like a f*ckton of audio devices, while i have like 4 or maybe 6
[18:00] <whoever> mrpizzaface: i use the video chat in gmail  and ditched skype about a year ago, sorry I can't be much help
[18:01] <gabmus> whoever: its sad we are still so relied to botnet
[18:01] <gabmus> isnt there an open source voip?
[18:01] <bane> gambus: tox
[18:01] <gabmus> is it voip?
[18:02] <bane> I gues
[18:02] <bane> s
[18:02] <gabmus> i dont think so
[18:02] <whoever> gabmus: there all a few and their all a pain in the ass to setup corretly
[18:02] <gabmus> i usually browse /g/ and they always talk about this tox, but apparently its just a plain chat
[18:04] <mrpizzaface> well that worked
[18:04] <mrpizzaface> but now how do i change my volume ?
[18:04] <homecable> any one use openbox ?
[18:05] <whoever> mrpizzaface: the vol icon
[18:05] <mrpizzaface> dosnt work anymore
[18:05] <jrib> !anyone | homecable
[18:05] <gabmus> homecable i did to play vidya on my notebook: its a really nice and easy to use vm
[18:05] <gabmus> wm*
[18:06] <whoever> mrpizzaface: what about setting a keyboard shortcut for t
[18:06] <whoever> *it
[18:06] <homecable> is there like a oubuntu img ?
[18:06] <mrpizzaface> they dont work anymore
[18:06] <gabmus> homecable, what?
[18:06] <mrpizzaface> i have fn+F11 as vol down
[18:06] <mrpizzaface> and fn+F12 as vol up
[18:06] <homecable> u know like xubuntu lubuntu
[18:06] <whoever> mrpizzaface: you need a pules audio mixer gui icon
[18:07] <homecable> theres not a oubuntu ?
[18:07] <gabmus> homecable lol i dont think so
[18:07] <gabmus> you could download the minimal version of ubuntu
[18:07] <mrpizzaface> whoever: pulse audio isnt running
[18:07] <gabmus> and install openbox
[18:07] <whoever> mrpizzaface: i thaught that is what you where running
[18:07] <gabmus> the second closest thing would be insatalling lubuntu and getting rid of lxde
[18:08] <mrpizzaface> no i just disabled pulse audio to fix skype
[18:08] <whoever> mrpizzaface: so what audio do you have running
[18:08] <gabmus> alsa maybe?
[18:08] <mrpizzaface> ALSA
[18:09] <whoever> mrpizzaface:  try modprob <mod>
[18:09] <whoever> then try again, if that doesn't work, then try the standard windows fix
[18:09] <whoever> restart
[18:10] <mrpizzaface> nvm found gnome ALSA mixer
[18:10] <gabmus> http://i.imgur.com/TiL7xWN.png
[18:10] <someHuman> Hello
[18:11] <whoever> mrpizzaface: ok, and is it working for you
[18:11] <whoever> someHuman: hello
[18:11] <hamidreza> Hello guys!
[18:11] <gabmus> sup ningen
[18:11] <brodie> i'm having some trouble with vino and I was hoping someone here can help me. whenever i try to connect, the connection is refused. it seems as though the vino-server isn't running. ("ps -e | grep vino" returns nothing) i've tried purging, rebooting, and reinstalling and that didn't help. when i try to manually start the vino server, it crashes. here's the log output http://pastebin.com/xtpQnxAR
[18:11] <mrpizzaface> dont know yet
[18:11] <gabmus> vino is another big pita
[18:12] <brodie> i've also tried installing tightvncserver, but when i login from my remote machine. it's just a blank grey screen. i even installed the xfce4 desktop and modified the xstartup file appropriately
[18:13] <gabmus> whatever guys, g2g
[18:14] <mrpizzaface> nope didnt work
[18:14] <gabmus> oh, lemme do some spam before i leave, i have a yt channel, if you want to check it out it would be nice https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVqlDOUyIjMWqBUhp73a90g
[18:14] <gabmus> see ya
[18:14] <bhavesh> brodie: This might help : http://askubuntu.com/questions/77356/vino-server-does-not-work-since-update-to-11-10
[18:15] <linuxthefish> why won't ubuntu install on ssd?
[18:16] <linuxthefish> i'm on the "instalation type" screen and it won't create any partitions
[18:16] <linuxthefish> yet it works fine in gparted
[18:16] <kraazy> hello
[18:16] <kraazy> I needed some help, is anyone willing to give me some advice?
[18:16] <whoever> linuxthefish: are you live
[18:16] <ki7rw> how does one find out what countries it's illegal to export packages that are export-restricted? seems complicated but some restricted countries are "no-brainers"
[18:17] <whoever> linuxthefish: select install
[18:17] <Guest88312> I've had to do a fresh install (same user), but want to only import firefox preferences (bookmarks/cache/history/login-ISs/pwds,etc.etc.). So, what files do I need to transfer to the other partition?
[18:17] <whoever> linuxthefish: maybe you have a messed up burn and need to write it slower
[18:17] <linuxthefish> whoever it says "No root file system is defined"
[18:18] <linuxthefish> it's booted from USB, i've tried re-writing and i've already installed to other system using this stick :S
[18:18] <whoever> linuxthefish: reboot and try again
[18:18] <linuxthefish> tried that :/
[18:18] <whoever> linuxthefish: burn it, i still don't completly trust usb installers
[18:19] <kraazy> Hello, can anyone help me, im rather noob at linux.
[18:19] <kraazy> with*
[18:19] <bhavesh> kraazy: ask!
[18:19] <vusie> hi ,how can i share infrastructure wifi in ubuntu 12.10...???
[18:19] <kraazy> Okay, im trying to install amd drivers on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but i keep gettin an error when i try to install fglrx
[18:19] <Guest88312> vusie: What do you mean?
[18:20] <kraazy> I get this error Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-18-generic (x86_64) Consult /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/13.251/build/make.log for more information.
[18:20] <vusie> uhmmm...I want to create a hotspot but in infrastructure mode not Ad-hoc
[18:20] <kraazy> Here the the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/7103579/
[18:20] <vusie> Guest88312:
[18:21] <brodie> is there a way to hide all the log spam?
[18:21] <brodie> in the irc channel
[18:21] <bhavesh> why does it look like a programming error to me?
[18:21] <kraazy> I have no idea.
[18:22] <zykotick9> brodie: you mean the join/part stuff?  answer depends on your irc client...
[18:22] <bhavesh> brodie: you can hide them if you're using hexhcat or xchat.
[18:22] <vfw> I've had to do a fresh install (same user), but want to only import firefox preferences (bookmarks/cache/history/login-ISs/pwds,etc.etc.). So, what files do I need to transfer to the other partition?
[18:22] <vusie> bhavesh: how about weechat?
[18:23] <bhavesh> vusie: I've got no idea.
[18:23] <whoever> linuxthefish: is it workin' for you now
[18:23] <zykotick9> vusie: it can be done in weechat... but don't ask me how.
[18:23] <vusie> bhavesh: but do you have an idea on how I can share my wifi in infrastructure mode?
[18:23] <linuxthefish> nope :(
[18:23] <linuxthefish> no DVD's
[18:23] <vusie> zykotick9: okay I wont
[18:23] <linuxthefish> *sigh* windows time :/
[18:23] <vfw> Sorry for repeating myself.
[18:24] <vfw> but had to reconnect
[18:24] <whoever> zykotick9: adhoc
[18:24] <vusie> zykotick9: but why not??? out of bounds question?
[18:24] <bhavesh> vusie: read this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009381
[18:24] <whoever> vusie: adhoc
[18:24] <zykotick9> vusie: i don't use weechat (anymore) so don't know the answer ;)  i've done it before though...
[18:25] <zykotick9> !quietirssi
[18:25]  * zykotick9 notes, it's easy in irssi
[18:25] <daum> to install ubuntu 13.10 onto a drives with raid 1, i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html but i don't see the physical volume for raid option?
[18:25] <raj__> how does the '-f' in 'bash -f script.sh' make a difference ? what is it for ?
[18:25] <vusie> bhavesh: using that method I can share wifi but cant connect ,does it work for you?
[18:26] <vusie> whoever: thanks...adhoc
[18:26] <bhavesh> vusie: I'm sorry, I haven't tried it myself.
[18:26] <vusie> zykotick9: I get..I get
[18:27] <vusie> raj__: type man bash
[18:27] <guest123456> Some new PC motherboards have thunderbolt 1.0 and 2.0.  Are these supported yet?
[18:27] <vusie> bhavesh: that method works not Ive tried it...
[18:28] <vusie> bhavesh:thanks..you tried
[18:28] <bhavesh> np.
[18:29] <whoever> vusie: so did you get it workin' yet
[18:29] <raj__> vusie:tried that first.. but there was no '-f' in there ?
[18:30] <vusie>  whoever: nop :(
[18:31] <vusie> raj__: yeah u ryt , I cheked it just now , I only saw /f ...you sure its -f?
[18:31]  * ki7rw says it's hard work to restore a PC after a HDD upgrade
[18:32] <raj__> vusie: yeah I saw it on some website btw it never gave error as I used it..
[18:32] <vusie> raj__: unfortunatley cant help...
[18:33] <vusie> sorr raj__
[18:33] <raj__> vusie: thanks man !!
[18:38] <mel|> should i install from a bootable usb stick?
[18:38] <mel|> are there better ways?
[18:38] <PeterGriffin> raj__: -f file
[18:38] <PeterGriffin>               True if file exists and is a regular file.
[18:38] <PeterGriffin> straight from man bash
[18:39] <guest123456> I just read there seems to be support for it as well as hot plugging support in the Linux Kernel but for apple.  Does not mention PC support for thunderbolt?  phoronix siter
[18:39] <guest123456> site
[18:40] <raj__> PeterGriffin: okay.. thanks could not locate in manpages .. it works without -f as well, directly using script name ..
[18:41] <xyzaffa1r> Google docs keeps crashing and I need to do a presentation for school, if I just use libre office, can I use the "Power point" with microsoft office on a windows computer?
[18:41] <PeterGriffin> raj__: It's far down in Conditional Expressions. I found it searching with "/"
[18:42] <raj__> PeterGriffin: thanks a lot..!
[18:44] <xyzaffa1r> ?
[18:44] <Majost_> I am attempting to setup a dual-boot with an encrypted lvm partition; the docs I have found are not at all clear on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto#Ubuntu_.2812.10.2B-.29
[18:44] <Majost_> Anyone know what "NB!" is?
[18:44] <Majost_> NetBoot??
[18:45] <bekks> Majost_: In which context?
[18:45] <Majost_> bekks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto#Ubuntu_.2812.10.2B-.29
[18:45] <MagePsycho> what will be the cron expression if you want to run cron in every first week of a month?
[18:45] <bhavesh> xyzaffa1r: yes, if you save it in Microsoft compatable presentation format while saving the document
[18:46] <bekks> Majost_: That refers to netboot, yes.
[18:48] <Majost_> Is there a netboot generated for the trusty nightly builds?
[18:49] <Welastevil> Cool!
[18:49] <Welastevil> Its is my firt time here people
[18:54] <SpaghettiCat> Welastevil:  welcome
[18:54] <Welastevil> someone from Russia?
[18:54] <sydney_> When i upgrad to ubuntu 14.04 when it comes out,and i use the cd, will it keep all my programs,files and settings.I do keep a backup.
[18:54] <greghouse_> Hey is anyone here?
[18:54] <Welastevil> yeah
[18:54] <Welastevil> Im here...just here
[18:55] <Welastevil> hey greghouse
[18:55] <greghouse_> Does anyone here know of any programs for ubuntu that will allow you to root your phone?
[18:55] <Welastevil> how you doing?
[18:55] <greghouse_> gladto see people are here Irc's are generally empty
[18:56] <Welastevil> I hahaha
[18:56] <Welastevil> yeah...
[18:56] <sydney_> When i upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 when it comes out,and i use the cd, will it keep all my programs,files and settings.I do keep a backup.
[18:56] <mel|> can someone point me to a tutorial on how to configure / disable uefi for a linux installation?
[18:56] <linuxthefish> say no to linux! >:(
[18:57] <greghouse_> @sydney yes it will keep all your files. but sometimes doesn't keep the settings
[18:58] <sydney_> Thank you,but I was not sure about my programs.
[18:58] <greghouse_> @sydney it will also keep your programs
[18:58] <sydney_> Ok,Thank you for your time.
[18:58] <greghouse_> np
[19:01] <greghouse_> Does anyone here know of any programs for ubuntu that will allow you to root your phone?
[19:03] <sydney_> Why does ubuntu bog so much when It is my hard drive?
[19:03] <Munster> mel|, uefi replaces the bios, set it up in legacy mode, but I used a livecd to install the OS
[19:04] <mel|> no optical drive here, but i guess a live usbstick will do
[19:04] <mel|> i just have to find out how to set up the uefi stuff
[19:09] <sydney_> Why does ubuntu seem to slow down,then restarting it fixes the problem,so i am restarting it like twice a day.Does that seem unreasonable to you,or is that normal?
[19:09] <Welas> hey
[19:09] <parapan_> hi all I have a laptop pc with intel 945G embedded graphical chipset; virtualbox reports for the guest OS (ubuntu 12.04 ) only 128 MB/RAM; system has 4 GB installed but the OS reports only 3,3 GB - pae and non-pae kernels reports the same value .....anyone have a clue ?
[19:09] <mozzarella> sydney_: that's not reasonable
[19:10] <mozzarella> sydney_: use htop and see if something is not using too much memory or too much cpu
[19:10] <Welas> I hade the same problem
[19:10] <Welas> in my case, it was the functional part of gigas.
[19:11] <sydney_> I think it is a ram problem ,because i have only I Gig, And this install is only a month old.
[19:11] <MagePsycho> what will be the cron expression if you want to run cron in every first week of a month?
[19:12] <bekks> sydney_: Then check "free -m" when it starts to get slow.
[19:13] <sydney_> I actually do,and it likes to crash google chrome,which i leave open in the background beckause it takes so long to load.
[19:14] <bekks> sydney_: Then please pastebin "free -m" when your system starts to get slow.
[19:14] <sydney_> bekks_:I an just curious,what does it do if I did?
[19:15] <bekks> sydney_: It will show you memory statistics.
[19:16] <sydney_> bekks_: Ok,I use Task Manager to Do that Though.:) thanks
[19:16] <bekks> sydney_: Thats worthless. You need to look at "free -m".
[19:17] <bekks> sydney_: Otherwise I would have said that you could look at the task manager, which I didnt.
[19:17] <OerHeks> sydney_, first step i do when i feel my system is slow, i close my browser to see if that solves it, then i would use htop
[19:19] <sydney_> bekks_: Thanks bekks, at the moment I 233 megs free from 1024mb acording to your method,and i only have google chrome open!
[19:19] <bekks> sydney_: Pastebin "free -m" please.
[19:20] <sydney_> becks_: I did,and that was the results. :)
[19:20] <Hoso001> I am having a problem, I just installed ubuntu, the live cd worked fine. After installing it booted fine, I enable the 3rd party repo's and ran sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade. During which my computer locked up, the graphics glitched out and i couldn't even move my mouse or type on my keyboard. I am running under windows at the momen
[19:20] <Hoso001> t. I am using a 9800GT graphics card. When I try to boot into linux now, all i get it s a message at the desktop telling me that a system error has an occured but I can't use my mouse or keyboard, to do anything. When I boot into recovery mode I can't select any options. The computer locks up when it displays graphics. I can't even get to a console
[19:20] <Hoso001> , is there a way to fix my system, or at least find out whats wrong? I suspect the graphics driver
[19:20] <bekks> sydney_: you did not paste free -m until now.
[19:20] <bekks> !pastebin | sydney_
[19:21] <Hoso001> Oh installed the latest ubuntu 13.10
[19:22] <Hoso001> Anyone have any ideas?
[19:22] <bekks> sydney_: And in addition, did you check http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ yet?
[19:23] <Welas> hi everyone again...
[19:23] <Welas> someone here knows how to intall weechat in a Mac?
[19:23] <bekks> Welas: Do you run Ubuntu on your Mac?
[19:24] <raj__> do bash scripts need to have any extension like .sh.. I used .sh extension with my "bash scripts".. & now realised it .. should I remove the .sh extension from those files ?
[19:24] <sydney_> bekks-: I hope i Pasted it right. Heres is the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7103964/ this is the most recent time i just tried it.
[19:25] <bekks> sydney_: You can pastebin it as often as you like - you have to provide the URL to us, because without it, we wont see it ;)
[19:25] <bekks> sydney_: And you have 385M free, and 32M swap is being used.
[19:25] <Welas> No bekks
[19:26] <Welas> I have UBUNTU in my vaio
[19:26] <sydney_> bekks-: ok thanks for the info on that.
[19:26] <Welas> and OS in my mac
[19:26] <bekks> Welas: Then please seek support in ##macosx for support on how to install weechat on OSX.
[19:26] <Welas> OS  Mavericks on the mac
[19:26] <Welas> I tryed it!
[19:26] <SrPx> How can I get a complete list of terminal commands and what they do
[19:26] <Welas> but I could not find....
[19:27] <sydney_> Quit: I am clearing the screen. :)
[19:28] <sydney_> What are ubuntu 14.04s specs so far?
[19:28] <bekks> Welas: It isnt an Ubuntu issue.
[19:30] <compdoc> 14.04 specs are: fast, reliable, pretty
[19:31] <west24352> ubuntu 12.04 - cant find moonlight (silverlight 4 linux) in synaptic, is it still going?
[19:32] <akaned> Try Pipelight instead of Moonlight.  I believe Moonlight is no longer maintained. Or at least way behind Silverlight
[19:34] <west24352> thx akaned , Synaptic: "No items match Pipelight" - do i need to add a repo ?
[19:35] <akaned> Yes. Check out this link http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[19:35] <nichlas> Awesome. Just set up automatic backup to Google Drive.
[19:35] <west24352> looks good, thx akaned
[19:36] <akaned> I'm running 12.04 and am finally able to access a site I needed which uses Silverlight. Was never able to get Moonlight to work.
[19:36] <akaned> No problem.  Hope it works for you
[19:37] <sydney_> why does Compiz sometimes randomly close when i try to open Dash Home?
[19:40] <west24352> doing the "silverlight" install now, wanted to see the Microsoft Feynman site Project Tuva
[19:40] <west24352>   dont suppose there is a similar emulation of adobe shockwave player too?
[19:41] <akaned> Check out the devs page http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html
[19:41] <akaned> I think it might also have Shockwave plugin
[19:42] <KamZou> Hi, i'd like to keep an azerty keyboard instead of qwerty. I did a : dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration and configured to azerty. It works but when i reboot it isn't working anymore :( any thought ?
[19:43] <gerzino> Hi guys, I have a machine dedicated for multimedia running Ubuntu and I would like to go a bit beyond that to use it as a fileserver across home. OpenMediaVault features seems nice but switching to Debian might be a tiny bit too much for what I want (NFS/SMB/AFP), Time Capsule and user management for file and service access. Do you know any software already capable of doing it on top of Ubuntu. I feel like all that is pos
[19:43] <gerzino> sible but I would have to pick up the pieces from many different projects
[19:44] <Hoso001> I am having a problem, I just installed ubuntu, the live cd worked fine. After installing it booted fine, I enable the 3rd party repo's and ran sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade. During which my computer locked up, the graphics glitched out and i couldn't even move my mouse or type on my keyboard. I am running under windows at the momen
[19:44] <Hoso001> t. I am using a 9800GT graphics card. When I try to boot into linux now, all i get it s a message at the desktop telling me that a system error has an occured but I can't use my mouse or keyboard, to do anything. When I boot into recovery mode I can't select any options. The computer locks up when it displays graphics. I can't even get to a console
[19:44] <Hoso001> , is there a way to fix my system, or at least find out whats wrong? I suspect the graphics driver
[19:44] <rypervenche> Welas: Check my private message.
[19:44] <sydney_> will ubuntu 14.04 be more resource friendly than 12.04?
[19:46] <eier> hello
[19:46] <sydney_> Hi
[19:46] <eier> need some help configuring my screen
[19:47] <nichlas> gerzino: you could install it in as a virtual server on your box
[19:48] <rypervenche> gerzino: You could set up the services on either distribution. Are you looking for something that does them all?
[19:48] <eier> anyone know anything about how to change resolution so that the screen gets the whole dash on it?
[19:49] <Hoso001> Oh, Is there way to set an option in the grub 2 bootloader in ubuntu to tell grub to boot the os in text console mode so i can remove a graphics driver?
[19:49] <gerzino> nichlas: I have OMV as avirtualbox for testing and i feel it will work. But if a solution already exist that can avoid this it would be nice
[19:50] <sydney_> eier_:Did you try to go to system settings and click on displays,and try to change the resolution there?
[19:51] <gerzino> rypervenche: yes, I have already tried all that I want (except for the Apple Time Capsule but I've seen other people doing it) but a single tool to do that would be nice
[19:51] <nichlas> gerzino: as rypervenche sais. you can install each service on it's own
[19:52] <nichlas>  gerzino but that doesn't give you the controls that OMV offers, and neither the user administration
[19:52] <rypervenche> gerzino: I don't know of any single service that can do all of that. I personally have NFS and AFS set up on my server at home. Samna isn't hard to set up either. I would do them all manually.
[19:52] <west24352> got silverlight via pipelight  :) - so far shockwave wont install :( will keep trying
[19:52] <deanm> Hello, I've managed to install ubuntu 12.04 on an external usb disk on my Macbook and have also installed refind but unfortunately can't realy boot ubuntu and don't know how to solve it. Any hints towards the right direction?
[19:53] <gerzino> ok thanks. i'll give a try to the virtualisation option and if not, I'll do it manually
[19:53] <nichlas> deanm: only live systems live comfortably on external disks
[19:53] <thurstylark> What do I put in my upstart script to specify where my command is supposed to be run from? I'm trying to run a command that has config scripts in the same directory as the executable file
[19:53] <nichlas> gerzino: there are countless control panels out there that will do most of what OMV offers, that you can readily install on your existing box
[19:54] <rypervenche> gerzino: You will still have the same problem if you virtualize the server.
[19:54] <nichlas> thurstylark: i usually 'cd' to the place
[19:54] <deanm> nichlas: What's a live system ?
[19:54] <nichlas> deanm: well, the ubuntu install iso is a live system.
[19:54] <deanm> nichlas: You mean the "try me" kind of installations ?
[19:54] <thurstylark> nichlas: how do I put that in a script? Do you have an example I can pull from?
[19:55] <nichlas> deanm: yes
[19:55] <gerzino> rypervenche: If I virtualise OMV, I will have the admin tools of OMV, which seem really nice to me
[19:55] <sydney_> eier_:Also did you hit the Windows key on your keyboard and type Displays and click on it and change the resolution there? That should work to. Either way should work
[19:55] <a1fa> how much sawp is needed for a 4gb laptop with ssd?
[19:55] <rypervenche> gerzino: Ah, I'm not familiar with OMV.
[19:55] <nichlas> a1fa: probably none
[19:56] <nichlas> thurstylark: put "cd /my/folder" in the beginning of the script
[19:57] <raj__> do bash scripts need to have any extension like .sh.. I used .sh extension with my "bash scripts".. & now realised it .. should I remove the .sh extension from those files ?
[19:57] <deanm> nichlas: I must install a very specific customized version of Ubuntu from my company and don't think a "live" version is supported. I can have a second partition on main HD for Ubuntu, will this work as a solution?
[19:58] <nichlas> raj__: no. you can just put #!/bin/bash in the first line, then it knows
[19:58] <nichlas> deanm: yes, it is only the "removable" part that it doesn't like
[19:58] <raj__> nichlas: could it be without any extensiosn ?
[19:58] <thurstylark> nichlas: I didn't think you could put bash commands in an upstart script...
[19:58] <nichlas> raj__: yes
[19:59] <raj__> nichlas: thanks!
[19:59] <nichlas> thurstylark: aren't it a bash script to begin with?
[20:00] <nichlas> thurstylark: then i guess you can have your upstart script execute a bash script.. will that do?
[20:00] <sydney> Is restarting ubuntu twice a day,because it slows down unreasonable? How can i fix that?
[20:02] <sydney> Is restarting ubuntu twice a day,because it slows down unreasonable? How can i fix that?
[20:02] <gmachine_24> sydney, I'd say yes to the first; I don't know to the second
[20:02] <Beldar> !details | sydney
[20:05] <Aossi> hey so i has a question
[20:05] <sydney> most of the time I do not find it unreasonable. I am running ubuntu 12.04,1gb ram,dual core 1.86ghz prossesor,1.5gb swap.It normally hapens when I am playing Suertux or making a slideshow or video,but it is still slow after doing that.
[20:05] <Aossi> can i use ubuntu 12.04 32bit to fix my old windows xp computer?
[20:06] <sydney> Aossi_: What do you mean by Fix?
[20:07] <Aossi> sydney: so when i boot my xp laptop it does its thing gets to the xp splash screen with loading bar and then POOF back to boot options (safe mode blah blah blah)
[20:07] <Beldar> Aossi, That is a ##windows issue
[20:08] <Aossi> i know
[20:08] <Aossi> but can i use ubuntu to fix it
[20:08] <nichlas> Aossi: only if you know what's wrong
[20:08] <Beldar> Aossi, Other than running sudo update-grub in ubuntu to make sure it is getting seen.
[20:08] <sydney> Aossi_: I am not sure how to fix that,because ubuntu is not really a windows fixing tool.
[20:09] <Aossi> Beldar: would i be able to use ubuntu to go into my windows partition on the hard drive and see if im missing kernels or dll files?
[20:09] <nichlas> Aossi: replacing windows with ubuntu will most likely fix your issue
[20:09] <sydney> ubottu_:most of the time I do not find it unreasonable. I am running ubuntu 12.04,1gb ram,dual core 1.86ghz prossesor,1.5gb swap.It normally hapens when I am playing Suertux or making a slideshow or video,but it is still slow after doing that.
[20:09] <Beldar> Aossi, You have full access to windows from linux generally.
[20:10] <Aossi> Beldar: coolness
[20:10] <nichlas> sydney: have you tried looking at the resource manager?
[20:10] <Aossi> Beldar: and ubuntu 12.04 can run along side xp with out removing it correct?
[20:10] <nichlas> sydney: maybe there is some app that refuses to close, and use up all your memory
[20:10] <Beldar> Aossi, Fifferent file systems however and permissions, be careful.
[20:10] <Aossi> Beldar: noted
[20:11] <Beldar> Aossi, You can it alongside, however resizing a broke XP is not a good idea.
[20:11] <Beldar> run*
[20:11] <Aossi> Beldar: i was thinking more of resizing ubuntu to the partition instead of fucking with the windows part
[20:12] <Beldar> Aossi, Cool, please don't swear here. ;)
[20:12] <nichlas> Aossi: you should start with the live version. You can access your NTFS/FAT partitions without installing anything.
[20:12] <Aossi> Beldar: sorry
[20:13] <Aossi> nichlas: so basically click try instead of install huh
[20:13] <nichlas> Aossi: exactly
[20:13] <Aossi> nichlas: noted
[20:13] <thurstylark> nichlas: figured it out. just needed to use the chdir directive in the script
[20:14] <nichlas> thurstylark: that also sounds cleaner than shifting to bash for that.
[20:16] <Aossi> nichlas: in the live version of ubuntu how do i use ubuntu to essentially debug and work around in windows with out booting windows
[20:16] <nichlas> Aossi: you will only be able to access files
[20:16] <Aossi> nichlas: elaborate please
[20:16] <nichlas> do you see the unmounted disk in the menu on the left?
[20:16] <Aossi> nien
[20:17] <thurstylark> nichlas: indeed. Works like a charm
[20:18] <Guest14597> leave
[20:19] <nichlas> Aossi: if you open the file manaer
[20:19] <nichlas> manager*
[20:19] <Aossi> the home folder ya
[20:19] <nichlas> Aossi: you should be able to see it under deivces
[20:20] <nichlas> among the shortcuts on the left
[20:20] <gmachine_24> Aossi: You might try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:20] <nichlas> Aossi: XX GB Volume
[20:22] <sarthak> Just bought a new drive. What should I format it with?
[20:23] <bekks> sarthak: For using it with Ubuntu only?
[20:23] <sarthak> Yes bekks
[20:23] <bekks> sarthak: Then just choose ext4, e.g.
[20:23] <Aossi> gmachine_24: thanks bro i got that going
[20:24] <sarthak> What about the scheme? MBR or GUID ... or do I chose don't partition bekks
[20:24] <bekks> sarthak: How big is that drive?
[20:24] <sarthak> 750gb WD Black it is a 2.5" drive .... bekks
[20:24] <bekks> sarthak: Then just choose MBR.
[20:25] <sarthak> Thanks bekks
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Aossi: :-)
[20:25] <sarthak> Been a while since I last used Ubuntu. How's the state of NTFS support now?
[20:26] <bekks> sarthak: It is supported for read/write.
[20:26] <Aossi> gmachine_24: after i install it what is the program itself called so i can use it?
[20:26] <gmachine_24> sarthak, much better than the other way around
[20:26] <Aossi> im not finding it in my search thingy
[20:26] <gmachine_24> Aossi - you need to burn it to a cd or usb stick and boot from that
[20:26] <Aossi> x.x
[20:26] <Aossi> gay
[20:27] <sarthak> The only thing I can't seem to figure out is what to do with Lightroom. I've got NTFS drives with photos on them and used to use Lightroom for editing/organization.
[20:28] <Aossi> nvm i found my xp cd
[20:28] <Aossi> imma just use that x.x
[20:28] <sarthak> One thing that linux needs is more commercial apps. It's not that easy to live without them.
[20:28] <Aossi> wish i found it sooner now i feel like an idiot
[20:28] <daftykins> Aossi: for putting a drink on?
[20:29] <Aossi> no to fix the boot issue with my xp system and then to run ubuntu along side it so i dont have to utilize winblows security programs
[20:29] <Aossi> caus well ubuntu is superior
[20:29] <Aossi> lol
[20:30] <sarthak> Talking about security, is there any need for an AntiVirus program on Ubuntu?
[20:31] <nichlas> sarthak: most don't. But that doesn't mean there are no risk.
[20:32] <nichlas> sarthak: but it is advisable to scan for rootkits and changed core files
[20:32] <linuxthefish> why won't ubuntu still install onto SSD? tried USB and DVD...
[20:32] <nichlas> especially if it is on an exposed server
[20:32] <linuxthefish> even tried linux mint
[20:32] <nichlas> linuxthefish: i have mine running on SSD. what is the problem?
[20:32] <bekks> linuxthefish: you get some message what happens, dont you?
[20:32] <sarthak> I guess it's a "good to have" thing? I was using OS X a year ago, ended up getting CyberSecurity for Mac. Never caught anything.
[20:33] <linuxthefish> nichlas it won't let me create any partitions
[20:33] <macss> does anybody know if it is possible to install x86 Ubuntu onto a x64 computer
[20:33] <linuxthefish> however it works fine in gparted
[20:33] <nichlas> macss: sure
[20:33] <bekks> macss: Sure. But why dont you use a 64bit OS?
[20:34] <nichlas> linuxthefish: sounds odd. But you can precreate the partitions, and then just install using the existing.
[20:34] <linuxthefish> i can't even see partitions
[20:34] <sarthak> linuxthefish If you do get it working, remember to set a manual swap space. If you have lots of ram 16GB+ then it'll eat your SSD.
[20:35] <mici> what would happen if you didnt give the system ANY or very little swap
[20:35] <sarthak> mici Some apps don't run (i.e. VMWare Player needs 2gb swap)
[20:35] <macss> bekks i plan on it but i am currently in a starbucks and unhappily using windows 8. i accidentally downloaded x86 earlier and don't have the bandwidth here to download x64 .... so im just gonna install x86 real quick
[20:36] <nichlas> I only run with swap on my server
[20:36] <nichlas> My desktop doesn't have any. No problems yet.
[20:36] <c|oneman> anyone run a GUI on Ubuntu in an openvz vm? I always get bugs on the user accounts screen, I can't unlock it, and I have to use the root password to install things in the GUI, my user password doesn't work
[20:36] <linuxthefish> wtf ubuntu is saying my disk has 98304 bad sectors...
[20:36] <mici> i never understood why they recommend the same swap size than your ram is... that seems stupid to give 32gb swap to 32gb ram system :) i only use swap if i know my actual ram wont be enough...
[20:37] <bekks> linuxthefish: Then your disk is going to die very soon.
[20:37] <linuxthefish> no it's fine in windows, i tested SMART a few days ago
[20:37] <mici> running vm from swap sounds like a slow thing ;D
[20:37] <mici> unless ssd or smth
[20:38] <nichlas> linuxthefish: i would try running a scan with the provided program. Sounds way off.
[20:40] <linuxthefish> :(
[20:40] <bekks> linuxthefish: Pastebin "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" where sdX is the device of your disk.
[20:40] <jdoles> linuxthefish: you just don't know what you are talking about.
[20:41] <bekks> linuxthefish: Windows ignores SMART at all, btw.
[20:41] <linuxthefish> to late, shut down and removed disk
[20:41] <linuxthefish> what about CrystelDiskInfo?
[20:41] <bekks> We dont care about Windows tools :)
[20:41] <linuxthefish> jdoles or i wouldn't be asking for help...
[20:42] <jdoles> linuxthefish: do you know what a sector is?
[20:42] <bekks> linuxthefish: We can help you with Ubuntu tools, not with Windows tools.
[20:42] <linuxthefish> no clue
[20:43] <nichlas> linuxthefish: my SSDs always came with tools. Didn't yours?
[20:43] <linuxthefish> nope, just a plain box :S
[20:43] <nichlas> Samsung Magic something.
[20:43] <nichlas> magician
[20:45] <jdoles> linuxthefish: a sector is just a subset of the bytes on your disk with some error correction.
[20:45] <jdoles> linuxthefish: a bad sector is a sector for which this error correction code says "hey, this is bad".
[20:45] <jdoles> linuxthefish: you have close to 100,000 of those.
[20:46] <jdoles> linuxthefish: the result of hitting a bad sector is slow performance at best or data loss at worst.
[20:46] <jdoles> linuxthefish: it's also an indicator of complete failure.
[20:46] <SrPx> Update: my Ubuntu-VM attempt to install GHCJS was another mediocre failure. I'm figurativelly gonna cry.
[20:47] <jdoles> linuxthefish: the solution is simple: buy a new disk.
[20:47] <nichlas> bad sectors on SSDs make little sense
[20:47] <jdoles> linuxthefish: Windows might not hit those same sectors.
[20:47] <SrPx> woops, wrong chan
[20:48] <bekks> nichlas: Really? So how do you think SSD store data? Just in a pool of transistors, and when a "1" is requested, just a random one holding "1" yells "here, here! I have one 1"? :)
[20:48] <daftykins> nichlas: yes they do, it happens.
[20:48] <jdoles> An SSD does not have "sectors", I suppose.
[20:48] <daftykins> yes it does
[20:49] <jdoles> But it does store information and you could label does as sectors.
[20:49] <jdoles> those*
[20:49] <daftykins> such misinformation here ;_;
[20:49] <jdoles> daftykins: a sector does not make a lot of sense for an SSD, see what bekks said.
[20:49] <sydney> Is anyone there?
[20:49] <asddssadds> Nothing pops up when I click the search button in the Dash.  I just installed the latest Ubuntu from a usb drive.
[20:49] <jdoles> daftykins: a sector being a part of a disc shaped object.
[20:49] <bekks> nichlas: Thos entities holding data and implementing an error detection for them are called "sectors". Even if there is no mechanical pendant like in usual HDD.
[20:49] <asddssadds> And on the live version it worked
[20:50] <asddssadds> hi sydney
[20:50] <asddssadds> anyone know how to fix the search?
[20:50] <daftykins> jdoles: i disagree but nm
[20:50] <jdoles> daftykins: it seems bekks has said exactly the same thing again.
[20:51] <sydney> asddssadds_: What do you mean by search?
[20:51] <jdoles> It's just that some set of people thought it would be cool to also call that a "sector".
[20:51] <jdoles> It's just convenient for all the software and drivers.
[20:51] <daftykins> oh dear, his record must be scratched
[20:51] <sydney> asddssadds What do you mean by search?
[20:52] <raub> Which package creates /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[20:52] <bekks> On a map, you call rectangualr areas "sectors" too, even though there is no disc shaped object...  wait, DiscWorld... :P
[20:52] <asddssadds> the top dash icon
[20:52] <jdoles> daftykins: the physical model is not exactly the same.
[20:52] <daftykins> jdoles: please stop
[20:52] <asddssadds> damn, unity --reset-icons made all window borders and all icons disappear
[20:52] <jdoles> daftykins: so, why don't you tell us how you think the world works, since apparently you are an Intel SSD engineer...
[20:53] <asddssadds> jdoles just threw down the gauntlet
[20:53] <daftykins> !offtopic | jdoles
[20:53] <daftykins> :D
[20:55] <sydney> Why does ubuntu 12.04 take like 45 seconds to start?
[20:55] <jdoles> !EDOESNOTHAVEBALLS | daftykins
[20:56] <daftykins> well that's not nice
[20:56] <jdoles> sydney: because it was made by visionless people and you have broken hardware.
[20:56] <guntbert> jdoles: be polite and constructive please
[20:56] <bekks> sydney: Why not? Thats pretty ok.
[20:56] <bekks> sydney: And how often do you actually start? :)
[20:56] <jdoles> sydney: my version of Ubuntu starts in about 9 seconds to some login screen + 4 seconds for BIOS stuff.
[20:57] <OerHeks> sydney install bootchart to see what is really happening
[20:57] <sydney> bekks_: about twice a day.
[20:57] <sss> hi
[20:57] <bekks> sydney: So thats not that long then.
[20:57] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[20:57] <jdoles> sydney: I also don't start the machine more than once per month, because you are not supposed to do that.
[20:57] <jdoles> sydney: you are supposed to use suspend if you use it often and otherwise hibernation.
[20:58] <jdoles> sydney: if those features don't work, find a machine or OS where that does work.
[20:58] <daftykins> jdoles: can you stop making stuff up now please
[20:58] <nichlas> bekks: yes, but most tools don't know how to check. And a bad sector doesn't mean the same on a SSD as on a magnetic disk
[20:58] <nichlas> SSD sectors go bad one at a time, to be reallocated. On a magnetic disk there are not supposed to be any at all.
[20:58] <demophobia> Must attached storage devices (e.g. iPods, thumbdrives) be 'safely ejected' before unplugging?
[20:58] <nichlas> bekks: yes, but a million bad sectors doesn't mean there will be actual data loss for an SSD
[20:58] <nichlas> the important part is if the number changes.
[20:58] <ramsub07> Hi guys, how do i convert a csv file to a db file ?
[20:58] <nichlas> If it is a new disk i would definitely RMA it, nevermind any theory or magic behind it.
[20:58] <sydney> jdoles_: I do us suspen most of the time,but sometimes it stops behaving corectly ,or slows down.
[20:58] <nichlas> Here is how it should look after about 300TB written: http://techreport.com/review/25681/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-testing-data-retention-at-300tb
[20:58] <jdoles> daftykins: nichlas just said exactly the same thing.
[20:58] <Gabmus> sup
[20:58] <jdoles> daftykins: so, it appears that most people agree with what I said.
[20:58] <asdsdaasd> ramsub07: import it?
[20:58] <bekks> nichlas: If you actually "see" bad sectors, there are replacement areas left. That applies for HDD as well as for SSD.
[20:59] <jdoles> daftykins: as such, please explain why I should care about your opinion (which apparently you don't have).
[20:59] <bekks> nichlas: So if you "have" bad sectors, you disk is going to die.
[20:59] <sydney> I wasnt sure if 45 seconds was slow? :)
[20:59] <guntbert> jdoles: please stop discussing - this is a support channel
[20:59] <daftykins> jdoles: i see no reason to justify myself to an obnoxious individual online so no ty
[20:59] <jdoles> guntbert: you must be one of daftykins's aliases.
[20:59] <bekks> jdoles: Also I technically agree, I I do not agree with your offtopic. So stop it please.
[21:00] <jdoles> bekks: great.
[21:00] <daftykins> i think it's kick o'clock
[21:00] <jdoles> I'd like to see we kick the less technical people out of here.
[21:00] <jdoles> It's like an idiocracy here, otherwise.
[21:00] <bekks> daftykins: It's ignore o'clock.
[21:00] <bekks> jdoles: Ignore set,.
[21:00] <daftykins> i never use ignore
[21:00] <bekks> daftykins: Too bad, it really helps :)
[21:00] <linuxthefish> jdoles i just ran the ubuntu installer on this laptop with the same make of disk and still the same error...
[21:01] <asdsdaasd> So anyway, any of you technical guys know about the dash search not working?
[21:01] <guntbert> daftykins: keep to support as well
[21:01] <daftykins> guntbert: i do not need to be told the rules
[21:01] <jdoles> linuxthefish: if this is about bad sectors, then of course you get the same error.
[21:01] <asdsdaasd> iwhen i click on the search icon, the other icons grey out like it's in the search app, but the search window doesnt appear
[21:01] <linuxthefish> it's a different disk...
[21:01] <hydrajump> hi assuming a new 4GB disk /dev/sda. Isn't creating a single root partition using this: `parted --script --align optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 64S 100%` the wrong way to align for best performance? Isn't the correct way to align to not set the starting offset, e.g. `parted --script --align optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%`
[21:02] <jdoles> linuxthefish: ok, there are then still a ton of explanations for that behaviour.
[21:02] <bekks> linuxthefish: So run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[21:02] <jdoles> linuxthefish: one of them is that your hardware is an apparatus to kill your other hardware.
[21:02] <jdoles> linuxthefish: but there are many more; that's the "fun" you get when you toy around with your own hardware.
[21:03] <jdoles> linuxthefish: what error specifically do you get?
[21:03] <linuxthefish> bekks will try that in a sec. jdoles troll...
[21:03] <bekks> linuxthefish: Just ignore him.
[21:04] <jdoles> linuxthefish: whatever bekks is saying is virtually useless.
[21:04] <jdoles> linuxthefish: the reason for that is that SMART is fairly useless.
[21:04] <linuxthefish> the installer isn't showing any partitions and none of the buttons to add/delete do anything, and sometimes it says "starting the partitioner in the bottom right"
[21:05] <linuxthefish> oh well, i'll use a non-ssd
[21:05] <jdoles> linuxthefish: that just sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you are doing.
[21:05] <jdoles> linuxthefish: you should find some physical person and let that other person help you.
[21:05] <daftykins> !ops | jdoles
[21:06] <Pricey> jdoles: That's the reason people come here, to be helpful :)
[21:06] <Pricey> *to find help
[21:06] <andyfied> so. i messed up a gfx driver install. finally got the correct driver back but in the process i managed to lose nvidia-xconfig. i cannot seem to actually find which package it is part of and reading various forums suggests its build into the drivers, but it is not. I've got nvidia-settings installed too. Does anyone have an idea how i can get nvidia-xconfig reinstalled?
[21:07] <jdoles> Pricey: no, the reason people come here, is to keep the skill level low enough such that the moderators can still understand it.
[21:07] <tables> i deleted my /etc configs for a package, i tried reinstallign it but i can't get the configs back
[21:07] <tables> how do i get my configs back?
[21:07] <tables> it was /etc/packagename
[21:07] <OerHeks> !find nvidia-xconfig
[21:08] <tables> i did apt-get remove package apt-get install package, and it won't install the configs
[21:09] <omar_> hi all
[21:10] <OerHeks> tables, if you have used --purge then your configs won't come back.
[21:10] <omar_> I am trying to install the lastest kernel version on my Ubuntu 13.10, but it is failing for some reason. What can I do to make it work?
[21:10] <tables> yea i used purge
[21:10] <tables> so how can i get my configs back?
[21:11] <andyfied> OerHeks: thanks for that, i've got nvidia-304 installed though
[21:12] <OerHeks> tables set it up again, as you did before
[21:12] <tables> i did
[21:12] <tables> i did apt-get install
[21:12] <tables> and the /etc/configs won't come back
[21:12] <OerHeks> tables as we do not know what software package, it is a wild guess
[21:13] <tables> i did these basically:
[21:13] <tables> rm -rf /etc/apache2  ;  apt-get remove apache2   ;   apt-get install apache2
[21:13] <tables> and my configs wont' come back
[21:13] <tables> i even tried apt-get install apache2 a second time and it just says : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
[21:14] <OerHeks> tables logically because you hard deleted the folder.
[21:14] <andyfied> OerHeks: i've just installed nvidia-319 and i'm still getting sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[21:14] <tables> OerHeks, so how do i get the configs back?
[21:14] <tables> lol
[21:15] <OerHeks> tables, why do you want me to answer the same question again?
[21:15] <OerHeks> gone is gone, you deleted it perfectly.
[21:15] <tables> i can never get it back?
[21:16] <HackerII> D`oh!
[21:16] <sydney> why does ubuntu start acting strange,and then I have to restart?
[21:17] <bekks> sydney: Define "strange" please.
[21:17] <compdoc> sydney, most likely a hardware problem
[21:18] <gabmus> finally
[21:18] <gabmus> good old irssi
[21:18] <omar_> I am trying to install the latest kernel version on my Ubuntu 13.10, but it is failing for some reason. What can I do to make it work?
[21:19] <sydney> when i minimize programs and reopen them they do not show the contents of the program,and it slows down.
[21:19] <gabmus> why don't you upgrade to 14.04? it's as stable as 13.10 already
[21:19] <gabmus> sydney, maybe your pc is old
[21:19] <gabmus> what hardware do you have
[21:19] <omar_> gabmus, What kernel version does 14.04 use?
[21:20] <gabmus> 3.13.0-17-generic
[21:20] <OerHeks> andyfied, i never used nvidia-xconfig myself, just gksudo nvidia-settings
[21:20] <ldiamond_> I swapped Caps Lock with Escape in the system config through the keyboards options. However, I don't want to "Swap", I want both to be escape. Anyone knows how to do that? (where is that setting written on disk?)
[21:20] <sydney> It is a Dell xps 410, 1 gig of ram,dual core 1.86ghz,running 12.04
[21:20] <gabmus> sydney, it is a pretty old system
[21:21] <gabmus> you should try something lighter like lubuntu or at least xubuntu
[21:21] <andyfied> OerHeks: nvidia-settings is complaining about xorg.conf being wrong and tells me to use nvidia-xconfig
[21:21] <omar_> gabmus, Oh. I see. I'd do just about anything just to hopefully find a solution to my function keys issue..! :/
[21:21] <ramsub07> Hi guys, how do i convert a csv file to a db file ?
[21:21] <raj__> deleting this file fails..        $ rm "-home.hist"           says: rm: invalid option -- 'h'         Try `rm --help' for more information.
[21:21] <JohninLex1> so whats sup with initrd.img-3.11.0.18 failing?
[21:21] <raj__>  how do I delete the above file successfully .. ?
[21:21] <sydney> I know about 8 years old,but it still works.
[21:21] <JohninLex1> it needs to be removed until it is fixed
[21:21] <sarthak> There is a lost+found folder on an external EXT4 drive. Is that normal or should it be hidden?
[21:21] <gabmus> omar_ whats your problem?
[21:21] <sarthak> jdoles I am sure everyone regardless of their technical experience with Linux is welcome here.
[21:21] <JohninLex1> this is why I hate this channel
[21:21] <JohninLex1> its to busy to get anything out
[21:21] <JohninLex1> so anyone know why initramfs keeps failing from updates?
[21:21] <sarthak> Guess we'll never see official and stable support from NVIDIA. I remember having battery life in the minutes with NVIDIA cards.
[21:21] <raj__> Removing this file fails:            rm  -home-raj-.history
[21:21] <raj__> how to remove this file ?
[21:21] <raj__>  says: rm: invalid option -- 'h'         Try `rm --help' for more information.
[21:21] <MarderIII> raj_: rm \-home\-raj\-.history perhaps?
[21:21] <MarderIII> or quote the filename.
[21:21] <sarthak> Can you not show hidden files and delete the file manually through file explorer. raj__
[21:21] <raj__> yes that fixed! thanks!
[21:21] <raj__> thanks all! fixed!!
[21:24] <gabmus> test
[21:24] <gabmus> finally
[21:24] <omar_> ?
[21:24] <gabmus> what happened
[21:24] <omar_> :/
[21:24] <Pricey> Sorry about that... fixed now :)
[21:24] <linuxthefish> lol
[21:24] <gabmus> np, i tought i was banned
[21:25] <omar_> gabmus, did you read my message, or do I send it again?
[21:25] <sydney> what will ubuntu 14.04s specs be when it comes out?
[21:25] <gabmus> send it again
[21:25] <omar_> ok
[21:25] <omar_> gabmus, I have a Toshiba Satellite M50D-A-103, and apparently it uses a slightly different standard for the function keys.. This results in linux basically mixing them up. (cont.)
[21:25] <HackerII> itl do a 1/4 mile in under 9 seconds
[21:26] <sydney> what will ubuntu 14.04s specs be when it comes out?
[21:26] <guntbert> !repeat | sydney
[21:26] <gabmus> sydney: the thing is that the pc works, but unity needs more ram to run smoothly. your best hope is lubuntu imho, but i would step away from the *buntu family and switch to something lighter like crunchbang.
[21:27] <sydney> Ok,Sorry,I didn't mean to be pushy.
[21:27] <gabmus> that was a bot dont worry
[21:28] <gabmus> omar_: do you know for sure what exact kernel fixes your problem?
[21:28] <dnull> Hello all, i need help for adobe flash
[21:29] <dnull> i cant istal it
[21:29] <dnull> install*
[21:29] <dnull> how do i?
[21:29] <bekks> !flash | dnull
[21:29] <Dureiken>  Hi there, does somone could help me to install Java 7 JDK on ubuntu please ? I didn't achieve to do it, following : http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html. Thanks
[21:29] <sydney> Do any of you who have tried ubuntu 14.04 know if it will run decently of worse than 12.04 on 1gig of ram?
[21:29] <raj__> when i give a space before writing a command in terminal.. it does not appear in history.. is that a way to skip history ???
[21:29] <k1l> !trusty | sydney
[21:29] <omar_> gabmus, I have no idea actually. I am just hoping that the latest kernel release holds with in the final cure for my issue.
[21:30] <gabmus> omar_: anyway, if you want or need to live on the bleeding edge, step away from ubuntu. arch is the most bleeding edge distro i know. its a pita to install, but there are derivates like archbang that are easier. give it a try
[21:30] <bekks> raj__: It does, here. History gets updated when you quit the current shell.
[21:30] <omar_> gabmus, live on the bleeding edge? What do you mean?
[21:31] <gabmus> sydney: unity is greedy of ram, nothing will run smoothly on that, except LIGHT things like xfce or lxde. As a more advanced user i'd use openbox wm instead of a complete DE, to be more light
[21:31] <bekks> sydney: In addition, Unity requires 3D.
[21:31] <guntbert> raj__: yes, thats the way to keep singlle commands from being recorded into the history
[21:31] <sydney> Dureiken_: have you tried installing it directly from Ubuntu Software Center? I had the same problem and solved it that way.
[21:31] <raj__> bekks: acutally I found that a command with space was skipped in history in between two commands..
[21:32] <gabmus> omar_: living on the bleeding edge means having the last software asap. most times this means some instabilities and occasional fuckups, but if you NEED it for a problem like yours, it could be the only solution. this said, give 14.04 a try, if that doesnt work, try archbang
[21:32] <raj__> bekks: atleast this is what I see through 'history' command .. did not check with .bash _history yet..
[21:32] <sydney> I know Unity is a resource hog,but I wasn't sure if Trusty would be better in that area.
[21:32] <MarderIII> gabmus: or if you want to be totally minimalistic you can use evilwm... ;-)
[21:33] <Dureiken> sydney : I achieved to install Java 6 wia ubuntu center, not 7
[21:33] <raj__> guntbert: thanks for confirmation !
[21:33] <gabmus> Dureiken: just copy and paste this into your terminal without the quotes: "gksu apt-get install -y openjdk-7-jdk && exit"
[21:33] <Dureiken> openjdk is same as java ?
[21:33] <omar_> gabmus, I see. Well.. I'll give 14.04 a shot. Thanks. :)
[21:33] <gabmus> sydney: trusty is about the same thing, dont expect so many changes
[21:34] <gabmus> omar_: no problem, always willing to help where i can ;D
[21:34] <sydney> gambus_: Ok,Thanks :)
[21:34] <andyfied> there doesn't really seem to be much in my xorg.conf anyway
[21:34] <Slart> raj__: aparently there is a setting in bash for ignoring dupes in history and ignoring commands starting with space.. on my system the setting is "both".. so it's a bash setting
[21:34] <andyfied> but it does say driver nvidia, so i have no clue why it isn't running
[21:34] <gabmus> MarderIII: I like openbox more, maybe just because I'm already used to it
[21:34] <gabmus> sydney: again, np, always willing to help
[21:34] <Slart> raj__: you can check the setting by running   echo $HISTCONTROL
[21:35] <gabmus> be sure to visit my youtube, if you want to do something nice to me :)
[21:35] <Dureiken> gabmus : I have no xserver
[21:35] <gabmus> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVqlDOUyIjMWqBUhp73a90g
[21:35] <sydney> Dureiken_: Yes,as far as I know they are.
[21:35] <Slart> gabmus: please, don't advertise stuff like that here
[21:35] <raj__> Slart: yes that says ... ignoreboth
[21:35] <raj__> thanks!!
[21:35] <MarderIII> gabmus: to each his own :) evilwm is very memory light.
[21:36] <gabmus> Dureiken: run "sudo apt-get -y install openjdk-7-jdk"
[21:36] <gabmus> Slart: ok sorry :\
[21:36] <Slart> raj__: same as I have
[21:36] <mel|> hi
[21:36] <Dureiken> gabmus : thanks a lot it worked
[21:36] <sydney> mel_: hello
[21:37] <gabmus> MarderIII: thats true, I still have pretty powerful machines so i run gnome-shell
[21:37] <mel|> im still trying to transform my samsung series 7 notebook into an ubuntu machine
[21:37] <gabmus> Dureiken: no problem. if you are managing a server you should learn bash, and if you already do, learn how apt works. it's really easy and comes in handy even on a desktop pc
[21:37] <mel|> does someone know where to look for a switch to uefi legacy mode?
[21:37] <asafsasf> what's good about the openjdk?
[21:38] <MarderIII> gabmus: running on some pretty memory restricted hardware. So that's why evilwm.
[21:38] <OerHeks> !uefi
[21:38] <gabmus> i usually install all of my programs using the command line
[21:38]  * andyfied is seriously considering reinstalling the OS just to get nvidia-xconfig back
[21:38] <mel|> was hard enough to get into the uefi config (wtf windows 8?)
[21:38] <gabmus> MarderIII: there's a reason if lightweight stuff exists. I should give it a shot on my raspi, if it wasnt a useless piece of crap
[21:38] <daftykins> mel|: can you provide some images of your setup screens?
[21:38] <Slart> andyfied: it's gone? isn't it part of the nvidia driver package?
[21:39] <ramsub07> Hi guys, how do i convert a csv file to a db file ?
[21:39] <Beryl> Which is the better firefox repo? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[21:39] <asafsasf> ramsub07, import it?
[21:39] <MarderIII> gabmus: have used it on my 256Mb raspi. Was usable
[21:39] <andyfied> Slart: i can't seem to find it at all. i've installed nvidia-319 and 304, now i'm trying the updates
[21:39] <ramsub07> how to ?
[21:39] <asafsasf> ramsub07, read your db docs?
[21:40] <Dinosaurio> Hi. I'd like to know how to remove all .jpg files recursively.
[21:40] <ramsub07> I have a csv file which i want to convert to a db file
[21:40] <gabmus> MarderIII: openbox was usable too, but when you are used to an i3 on a desktop, you tend to lose patience on low end devices
[21:40] <gabmus> not i3 the window manager
[21:40] <MarderIII> :-)
[21:40] <gabmus> the intel core i3
[21:40] <Slart> andyfied: I think it's part of nvidia-current in 12.04, not sure if it's the same with newer versions
[21:40] <Slart> andyfied: sorry, 12.10
[21:41] <gabmus> what you use your raspi for?
[21:41] <guntbert> !ot | gabmus
[21:41] <Slart> !find nvidia-xconfig | andy
[21:41] <Dureiken> gabmus : ok I will look some Wiki :) thanks. Is that normal that a fresh new server have 1GB or ram used without anything launched ?
[21:41] <MarderIII> gabmus: at the moment as a irssi client with proxy configured for my android phone
[21:41] <Slart> andyfied: see ubottus message above.. it should be available in all those packages
[21:41] <ramsub07> I have a csv file which i want to convert to a db file
[21:42] <ramsub07> how to proceed ?
[21:42] <andyfied> Slart: i used to have it :/ that's whats bugging me. i removed it when i tried to install a new gfx card by mistake and now i'm going through each driver package just to see if i can get it back. no joy with 319-updates
[21:42] <gabmus> Dureiken: ubuntu isn't lightweight. i would choose it for a server really, while I'd prefer debian stable
[21:42] <MarderIII> gabmus: and as a honeypot
[21:42] <Dureiken> gabmus : ok thanks, it's for a game server (minecraft)
[21:42] <gabmus> i wouldnt choose it for a server*
[21:42] <asafsasf> ramsub07, import the csv file
[21:42] <Slart> andyfied: perhaps the updates packages just has replacements if there is a newer version of the file.. have you tried   sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-319
[21:43] <Slart> ramsub07: what is a .db file? sql? something else?
[21:43] <ramsub07> sqlite
[21:43] <gabmus> Slart: a database file i think
[21:43] <gabmus> for libreoffice base
[21:43] <ramsub07> yes
[21:43] <Slart> ramsub07: this seems useful http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ImportingFiles
[21:44] <asafsasf> ramsub07, it takes 5 seconds to google that question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1045910/how-can-i-import-load-a-sql-or-csv-file-into-sqlite
[21:44] <asafsasf> hang your head in shame
[21:44] <gabmus> oh you got answered
[21:44] <andyfied> Slart: i'll try that
[21:44] <Slart> gabmus: might be used for all kinds of databases (or so it seems from a quick google search)
[21:44] <gabmus> Slart: ok nice
[21:45] <andyfied> Slart: still not there, thanks for the suggestion though
[21:46] <andyfied> weirdly xorg.conf does have "driver nvidia" in it, but it's not running
[21:46] <ramsub07> I did that
[21:46] <ramsub07> but I am getting an error
[21:47] <ramsub07> line 1: expected 8 columns of data but found 1
[21:47] <gabmus> andyfied: maybe the nvidia driver is blacklisted. have you installed bumblebee?
[21:47] <andyfied> gabmus: no, would it be a good idea to?
[21:47] <bekks> ramsub07: So fix the input file.
[21:47] <asafsasf> ramsub07, I'm having trouble seeing your input file with my crystal ball.  The spirits are uncooperative today.
[21:48] <andyfied> i've seen the instructions so i'll try it
[21:48] <Beryl> I've found with new cards, xorg edgers is the best, but with old cards, sometimes the latest nvidia drivers are buggier than the older stables
[21:48] <gabmus> andyfied: do you have a notebook with optimus technology?
[21:48] <andyfied> no, i have a normal pc with a 9800gtx that was running fine 4 days ago
[21:48] <tables> how do i reinstall a package and get my /etc configs back?
[21:49] <ThomasBS> when trying to install ubuntu server on my old laptop, the keyboard isnt working.. Anyone got any good ideas here?
[21:49] <Dinosaurio> guys, I've mistakely used "find -delete" and removed some files. Would you reinstall the whole OS (I don't know if I removed important things or not).
[21:49] <gabmus> well, dont instlal bumblebee
[21:49] <gabmus> it WILL fuck everything
[21:49] <andyfied> tables: i must say, your configs are gone
[21:49] <Dinosaurio> I haven't restarted computer yet
[21:49] <Slart> Dinosaurio: ouch.. what command did you run? do you still have it in your history?
[21:49] <IdleOne> gabmus: No cursing in here please
[21:50] <Dinosaurio> Slart: daniel@daniel-pc:~$ find -delete
[21:50] <gabmus> well well well... andyfied what version of ubuntu are you running? and what driver version?
[21:50] <gabmus> IdleOne: ooops, didnt notice :D
[21:50] <andyfied> gabmus: 13.10 and currently 319
[21:50] <rypervenche> Dinosaurio: Then you removed your home directory.
[21:50] <rypervenche> Dinosaurio: Or all the files in it.
[21:50] <gabmus> meh, dunno that should work fine
[21:50] <andyfied> gabmus: yeah, i know :(
[21:50] <gabmus> you installed it from official repos?
[21:50] <Dinosaurio> not really, "Download", and some other folders dissappeared
[21:51] <andyfied> gabmus: straight out of synaptic
[21:51] <Dinosaurio> But I didn't lose my music and university works
[21:51] <gabmus> did you do anything strange to X or to the drivers?
[21:51] <asafsasf> anyone know where that randr option menu is? to fix screen flickering?
[21:51] <Dinosaurio> the thing is, I don't know what will happen when restarting
[21:51] <gabmus> do you have an X session? or you can't access it?
[21:51] <andyfied> gabmus: maybe i did something weird, but i'm not sure what. i installed lxde so i could get a de
[21:52] <gabmus> andyfied: you didnt have a de before?
[21:52] <gabmus> is that a server?
[21:52] <andyfied> gabmus: it boots up okay and gets to the login screen but unity won't run i assume it needs to be acceleragted
[21:53] <gabmus> andyfied: if it reaches the login screen then X is working
[21:53] <gabmus> is the resolution ok?
[21:53] <andyfied> gabmus: and for whatever reason it seems to keep grabbing the vesa one
[21:53] <gabmus> you mean the mesa* one?
[21:53] <gabmus> you mean the nouveau driver?
[21:53] <andyfied> gabmus: no, it's dead wrong resolution and nvidia-settings says the nvidia driver is not running
[21:53] <Slart> Dinosaurio: I would do a reinstall.. and cry silently when I go to sleep hoping it will never happen again =)
[21:54] <andyfied> gabmus: erm, let me check
[21:54] <Slart> Dinosaurio: and start doing backups.. it's never to late =)
[21:54] <gabmus> ok andyfied lets get into real s***t
[21:54] <gabmus> where are you writing from? your pc?
[21:54] <gabmus> brb gimme a sec
[21:55] <gabmus> im back
[21:55] <andyfied> gabmus: i'm on the desktop in question, but i'm using ssh to my fileserver and using irssi from there because of reasons...
[21:56] <gabmus> can you access another device?
[21:56] <gabmus> like a smarthpone or anything else?
[21:56] <Dinosaurio> Slart: yeah, I'm backuping everything. :P. I had better not use console sunday nights
[21:56] <andyfied> oh, i got a laptop down on the floor here
[21:56] <Virtual> Anybody know a better drive than using b43-installer for a MacBook Pro airport?
[21:57] <gabmus> get it, we are going to mess your pc up and make some tests
[21:57] <andyfied> glxinfo | grep OpenGL is showing no devices, btw
[21:57] <asafsasf> Why is there an Amazon icon in the Dash by default?
[21:57] <momo2> hi will ubuntu easily do a dist-upgrade via gui
[21:57] <momo2> ?
[21:57] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: Might see what you can do in bios, maybe switch  usb to a legacy mode ?
[21:57] <ThomasBS> There's no such option
[21:57] <ThomasBS> unfortunately :(
[21:57] <bekks> Virtual: so which wifi chipset do you have?
[21:58] <andyfied> right, i'm on lappy now
[21:59] <sydney_> How would I create a app in ubuntu if I wanted to?
[21:59] <gabmus> the first thing you are going to do is restart your pc and NOT logging in. get into a tty (press ctrl+alt+F5) then login. Now we are going to uninstall nouveau drivers with the following command: "sudo apt-get -y purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau"
[21:59] <bekks> sydney_: Define "app" please.
[21:59] <Dureiken> gabmus : debian : used 174Mb :p
[21:59] <Virtual> bekks, I believe it's BCM4331
[22:00] <bekks> Virtual: Most likely, it is BCM4313, and then b43 is the correct driver for it.
[22:00] <gabmus> now you have to clear all nvidia drivers you could have installed with this command "sudo apt-get -y purge nvidia*"
[22:00] <sydney_> game Similar to Supertux?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: Many times that distinction is not too clear. See what you have for keybord/mouse in general and the usb devices in particular ? Ya got a ps-2 keyboard laying around ?
[22:01] <andyfied> okay, doing first one now
[22:01] <gabmus> finally you can try and reinstall the drivers running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-319-updates"
[22:01] <bekks> sydney_: Then you have to learn how to program in the programming language of your choice, and you have to learn how to develop the elements you need, like program logics, graphics, etc.
[22:01] <andyfied> irony: the command console is on the correct resolution
[22:01] <gabmus> i'm not sure since im no more in 13.10 if the 319 driver needs the nvidia-sessings package
[22:01] <gabmus> andyfied: thats normal in lack of active drivers
[22:02] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: To be honest, I dont even know what a PS2 keyboard is.. I guess its an old keyboard, yeah? Might be forced to bring my old laptop to work tomorrow to find an old keyboard then
[22:02] <ThomasBS> was just hoping there was another work around
[22:02] <gabmus> ThomasBS: the PS/2 plug is the round violet or green cable used to connect mouse or keyboards
[22:02] <ThomasBS> ah
[22:02] <ThomasBS> yeah I've only got USB
[22:03] <gabmus> everyone has only usb on modern laptops
[22:03] <gabmus> there are adapters
[22:03] <Virtual> bekks, yes, but I am getting slow wifi speeds and big latency when pinging the router. the same wifi adapter on Windows or Mac OS works excellent
[22:03] <ThomasBS> yeah this laptop only has usb
[22:03] <momo2> anyone know? is there a simple gui way to dist-upgrade the distribution
[22:04] <bekks> momo2: A gui way to run the command "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"? :)
[22:04] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: Yeah, rge old keyboards were ps2, "round" connector. But if we are talking lter laptop, may not have a provision for that type of connection. Back to seeing what is in bios that one can change. Not always a solution there (server).
[22:05] <gabmus> momo2: dont be silly: why should you want a gui to run a console command? open up your terminal and write that command straight from command line!
[22:05] <andyfied> gabmus: the xsession things was not present, but i've purged all the drivers and 319-updates installes nvidia-settings as well
[22:05] <gabmus> also, command line is more efficient and easy to use than a gui
[22:05] <momo2> bekks: only a gui way to update to higher distri (like dist-upgrade)
[22:05] <gabmus> andyfied: have you followed all the steps?
[22:06] <bekks> momo2: Just run the command: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:06] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: I've been staring myself blind in the bios for several hours (might be an overstatement) but there's really just a few options there.. and nothing about keyboard or anything unfortunately
[22:06] <andyfied> gabmus: yes, all 3
[22:06] <bekks> momo2: No gui needed for a single command.
[22:06] <momo2> gabmus: lets mean the gui way not the command
[22:06] <andyfied> drivers just installed fresh
[22:06] <gabmus> did you install the nvidia-settings-319 package too?
[22:06] <[TiZ]> Hi. How would I modify an ubuntu liveCD to boot from first hard disk by default? I can't do anything to get this bios computer to boot this gpt disk, but "boot from first hard disk" from the live CD works so I figure I'll just use that.
[22:06] <andyfied> gabmus: it installed automatically with the drivers
[22:06] <gabmus> momo2: still dont get what you want to do
[22:06] <ThomasBS> messing around with the isolinux.cfg has gotten me a few steps closer, but every time there's a need for a key to be pressed, im pretty much f**ked
[22:07] <gabmus> andyfied: perfect
[22:07] <gabmus> now run "sudo shutdown -h now"
[22:07] <gabmus> this will shut your pc down
[22:07] <gabmus> then turn it on again
[22:07] <gabmus> and see if anything as changed
[22:07] <momo2> gabmus: i want to update to another release like dist-upgrade do but i dont want to use the command only a gui like the update manager. does it works easy?
[22:07] <bekks> gabmus: sudo init 6 would have done the same, as sudo shutdown -r now would have done
[22:08] <sadpuppy> distrowatch.com
[22:08] <gabmus> bekks: rarely reboot from console, too lazy to learn to reboot, so i just shut down and power on again. thank you
[22:08] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: usb devices ? in general. Now, I am aware of a couple of cases where there is no solution to getting the keybord recognized in a server install.
[22:08] <daftykins> lol seriously?
[22:08] <daftykins> 'shutdown -r 0'
[22:08] <gabmus> momo2: thats not what dist-upgrade does
[22:08] <daftykins> :P
[22:09] <andyfied> gabmus: it's still in the wrong resolution
[22:09] <momo2> ah is see
[22:09] <gabmus> andyfied: what the hell really
[22:09] <andyfied> gabmus: yeah, i know
[22:09] <gabmus> momo2: if you want to do that run "update-manager -d" on a terminal
[22:09] <andyfied> gabmus: i mean, i'm no expert, but this is nuts
[22:09] <momo2> so it is easy with gui to update to another release to have ubuntu over years?
[22:10] <gabmus> momo2: kind of
[22:10] <bekks> momo2: apt-get dist-upgrade updates all packages in the same release, while do-release-upgrade upgrades to a new release. You are well advised to not do the latter from a gui, because your gui will break during update and you will be left with a partial update.
[22:10] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: usb devices? i've only got my USB stick created with Universal USB installer .. The laptop boots the stick perfectly but keyboard is a no go on the laptop
[22:10] <momo2> so there is no secure gui way to be update over years?
[22:11] <gabmus> andyfied: well, there is NO driver at all that can be active and suppress the nvidia one. so X just doesn't know it has to use it
[22:11] <bekks> momo2: And using 12.04, you will get updates until 2017, and with 14.04, you will get updates until 2019. So you actually can use it for years without a gui for updating.
[22:11] <tables> how do i check what packager a file belongs to?
[22:11] <gabmus> you can try installing the driver from the .run file nvidia provides
[22:11] <tables> like /usr/sbin/apache2       i wanna know what package it belongs to
[22:11] <Slart> table you can use the !find command in here.. or apt-file
[22:11] <momo2> okay
[22:11] <sadpuppy> sourceforage multi boot from usb thumb drive
[22:11] <gabmus> andyfied: go here and download your .run file http://www.nvidia.it/Download/index.aspx?lang=it
[22:11] <Slart> !find nvidia-xconfig | tables
[22:11] <tables> what does that have to do with nvidia?
[22:11] <andyfied> gabmus: yeah, but i'm not sure why nvidia-xconfig has disappeared either
[22:12] <Slart> tables: ubottu will search the packages for you and tell you which packages contain the file
[22:12] <Slart> tables: just an example
[22:12] <dnull> guys
[22:12] <dnull> for flash
[22:12] <bekks> Slart: ubottu is not the package manager ;)
[22:12] <gabmus> andyfied: the .run file usually fixes a lot of things. let's try it
[22:12] <bekks> tables: you can use dpkg for various searches.
[22:12] <dnull> i installed extras but it doesnt work
[22:12] <andyfied> gabmus: i have the nvidia drivers so i'll try them again, i was blaming it for messing it up in the first place
[22:12] <bekks> gabmus: It usually breaks things. It will break with every kernel update.
[22:12] <gabmus> you already have the .run?
[22:13] <dnull> how do i get flash  to work?
[22:13] <dnull> anyone?
[22:13] <tables> what dpkg parameter is it?
[22:13] <gabmus> bekks: yes, but it will fix X
[22:13] <Slart> bekks: if you put on some smooth music and dim the lights ubottu will be whatever you want it to be =)
[22:13] <bekks> andyfied: Do NOT use the .run until you know how to fix issues with X.
[22:13] <gabmus> at least, it did with me
[22:13] <bekks> !nvidia | andyfied
[22:13] <dnull> Anybody help?????
[22:13] <momo2> bekks: and without lts its not save possible like mentioned, because i dont want to use old lts progs
[22:13] <andyfied> gabmus: yeah, i got the correct one, but it didn't seem to make much differnce
[22:13] <dnull> guysss?
[22:13] <andyfied> bekks: sadly too late, it might have caused the issues in the first place
[22:13] <bekks> momo2: Without LTS, you have to run do-release-upgrade every 9 months.
[22:14] <dnull> ANYBODY?
[22:14] <gabmus> andyfied: how disappointing. at this time i would have just re-installed the whole system. i'm sorry, but today i failed :\
[22:14] <bekks> !flash | dnull
[22:14] <gabmus> dnull: DONT BE PUSHY
[22:14] <momo2> bekks: right? is breaking the command terminal command safer?
[22:14] <Slart> dnull: I get flash to work by installing it.. you haven't really given us much to work with.. we don't even know what kind of ubuntu you're running
[22:14] <andyfied> gabmus: it's okay, i'm glad someone has shown me i've done everything i could so far
[22:14] <momo2> bekks: ok
[22:15] <bekks> momo2: No one said you will break the command line terminal. The shell you are running the command in will not be broken until you leave it.
[22:15] <dnull> Slart: i have ubuntu 12.04
[22:15] <gabmus> andyfied: I'm sorry mate
[22:15] <Slart> dnull: ok, and what browser are you using?
[22:15] <gabmus> i keep the system in a separate partition from my home partition so that when I have to rei
[22:15] <dnull> Slart: firefoxx and chromium
[22:15] <gabmus> reinstall
[22:15] <andyfied> gabmus: bekks: thanks for the help. i'm going to sleep and i'll have another go tomorrow
[22:15] <momo2> mhhh the shell is the gui too
[22:15] <gabmus> i dont lose my files
[22:15] <gabmus> andyfied: np, sorry i couldnt help. gnight
[22:16] <gr33n7007h> dnull, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:16] <bekks> momo2: Thats why you do not run a graphical terminal for do-release-upgrade but run that command from a console. Press ctrl alt f1 to get one, e.g.
[22:16] <Slart> dnull: and finally.. what have you tried so far? are you following some kind of guide?
[22:16] <dnull>  i got the ubuntu restricted extras and tried terminal non worked
[22:17] <dnull> none*
[22:17] <Slart> !flash | dnull, try these suggestions first
[22:17] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: Here some background and amplifying info : from another similar situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7104868/ ...
[22:18] <momo2> bekks: i really dont want to tell my neighbor that he should open a terminal or switch to vt1 he dont want that so the secureness of both gui command line or gui update manager methods are the same?
[22:18] <dnull> Slart
[22:18] <bekks> momo2: Well, I told you severak times now. No matter how often you ask, my answers will not change.
[22:18] <bekks> *several
[22:18] <dnull> Slart: it does not help
[22:19] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: Thanks. Guess im going to see if my workplace has some PS2 keyboards laying around.. :(
[22:19] <gr33n7007h> dnull, have you tried issuing: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree in terminal?
[22:19] <momo2> bekks: okay i understand now
[22:20] <gr33n7007h> dnull, Then once that has install issue: sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
[22:20] <dnull> gr33n7007h: yes i have with no success
[22:20] <dnull> ok
[22:20] <Slart> dnull: ok, "it does not help".. so all the commands worked fine? no error messages? how are you testing if flash works?
[22:20] <dnull> Slart: youtube does not work, etc
[22:21] <gabmus> *yawn* I'm gonna get some sleep now
[22:21] <gabmus> thanks for the good time guys
[22:21] <gabmus> gnight everyone
[22:22] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: IF you have a ps2 connector on that laptop (??).
[22:22] <dnull> gr33n7007h: when i use terminal, it says command not found
[22:22] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: ffs, i dont.. thanks for reminding me, hah
[22:22] <bekks> dnull: Define "it". What exactly do you enter, what happens?
[22:22] <bekks> !details | dnull
[22:22] <wjlafrance> Hey all. If I want a desktop system using WDM and Window Maker, is there any reason to prefer lubuntu or should I start with vanilla ubuntu desktop?
[22:23] <ThomasBS> Bashing-om: ill bring it to work anyway, there's some pretty clever server people there.. they might know what to do :D
[22:23] <gr33n7007h> dnull, Is this a brand new install?
[22:23] <dnull> bekks: using terminal getting flash, entered sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:23] <bekks> dnull: And whats the output?
[22:24] <bekks> !pastebin | dnull
[22:24] <pdo_fn14> Is't any best replacement for modem-manager-gui package?
[22:24] <Bashing-om> ThomasBS: Yeah, two or three heads are better than one, - But, it is amazing what slipd by ones awareness in bios.
[22:24] <sydney> what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux? Thanks in advance. :)
[22:24] <Bashing-om> slipd/slips
[22:24] <dnull> gr33n7007h: well, i dont know what u mean. By default, i should have flash plugin, since i have ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:25] <Slart> sydney: python?
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> dnull, Have you recently install ubuntu?
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> *installed
[22:25] <Slart> sydney: java would work as well.. or C/C++
[22:25] <dnull> gr33n7007h: yes i have, less than 2 weeks.
[22:25] <sydney> Ok,I will look into it. Thanks
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> dnull, try a sudo apt-get update
[22:26] <JennyBlueBird> Hi guys, is there any page which lists compatible webcams ?
[22:26] <k1l> dnull: please put the exact commands and the output in a pastebin
[22:26] <JennyBlueBird> would not want to buy one and have it not work
[22:26] <k1l> !paste | dnull
[22:26] <Slart> !webcam
[22:26] <Slart> JennyBlueBird: see above
[22:26] <dnull> gr33n7007h:  done
[22:26] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: lots of stuff comes with UVC support nowadays
[22:26] <gr33n7007h> dnull, now try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:30] <gr33n7007h> dnull, What ubuntu are you using?
[22:31] <[TiZ]> Hi. How would I modify an ubuntu liveCD to boot from first hard disk by default? I can't do anything to get this bios computer to boot this gpt disk, but "boot from first hard disk" from the live CD works so I figure I'll just use that.
[22:31] <dbrown_> QUESTION: how can i mount a hard drive using fstab and users still have access to it? it seems to be owned by root and nobody but root can write to it
[22:32] <wjlafrance> Hey all. If I want a desktop system using WDM and Window Maker, is there any reason to prefer lubuntu or should I start with vanilla ubuntu desktop?
[22:42] <Coover55> Hello?
[22:42] <Coover55> Is anybody available to help me out?
[22:42] <Pessimist> !ask | Coover55
[22:43] <Coover55> Alright, sorry.
[22:43] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[22:45] <dfsasdf> hi
[22:46] <rww> hi
[22:46] <Coover55> So here's my problem: Upon trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 (from an external hard drive, installing to a different partition on the same drive), everything seems to run smooth at first. The Live CD (or Live USB if you prefer) works perfectly, and installing goes almost without a hitch. Until I get to the point where I've finished setting up my partitions (partition for install and my swap area).
[22:46] <Coover55> After I begin installing, it will give me an error saying that it failed to unmount /CDROM/ or something along those lines. I press continue and it continues. I can set up my location, user profile, etc., but after all that it gets stuck on "Detecting file systems...", not moving from there. The last thing in the box shown is "Step_before = stepWebcam". Can anyone help me with this?
[22:46] <wjlafrance> Sorry for off-topic, but that net split was impressive. The joining was enough to fill my entire chat buffer.
[22:47] <osama_> cc hi
[22:47] <osama_> any body from egypt
[22:48] <Coover55> Nobody can help?
[22:49] <wjlafrance> Coover55: It's a little slow in here right now. I'm sure someone will be able to help soon.
[22:49] <Coover55> Mmm. Alright.
[22:49] <Coover55> I'll be right back a moment
[22:50] <pycoderf> hi all. i am setting up an ltsp server and i installed the mate desktop. for some reason my clients cannot login, however normal ssh works fine
[22:50] <pycoderf> anyone have ideas why
[22:52] <Coover55> Back.
[22:52] <Beldar> Coover55, Not an ideal use is all. Are you trying make a portable install?
[22:53] <Coover55> More or less. I have Windows 8.1 installed on my laptop at the moment, but I like Ubuntu more (from experience on the Live CD)
[22:54] <Coover55> I don't think I'll be using it on any other computer but I just want to have the install on my ext hard drive anyway
[22:55] <pycoderf> anyone had the issue with mate not logging in?
[22:55] <Coover55> I'm sort of new to Linux-based systems but nonetheless I know that installing to an ext hard drive IS possible, just apparently not easy
[22:56] <Coover55> And yes I have my install partition set to ext4 format
[22:56] <Beldar> Coover55, W8 is uefi and gpt, if it were possible I would use a flash drive with a full install. Again not ideal, ubuntu can be dualbooted.
[22:56] <pycoderf> ok it seems the issue is any X desktop
[22:56] <Coover55> It could be dual-booted but it doesn't detect my W8 install
[22:56] <k1l> pycoderf: which ubuntu is that?
[22:56] <Coover55> And I changed boot type from UEFI
[22:56] <Coover55> 12.04
[22:56] <pycoderf> k1l: 13.10
[22:57] <Coover55> What?
[22:57] <pycoderf> i am building an ltsp server and this worked 2 weeks ago. unsure what changed but i did a clean install and no x login
[22:57] <Beldar> Coover55, Unless you have changed the partition tables(s) it is still gpt.
[22:57] <Coover55> I did
[22:57] <Coover55> Or rather my dad did. He works in this kinda stuff so I know he knows what he's doing
[22:58] <Beldar> Coover55, How?
[22:58] <Coover55> Not sure, but I know he did it
[22:58] <k1l> pycoderf: most devs from mate sit in the mint corner. so if its only not working with mate i would ask them for specific support of mate
[22:58] <pycoderf> i tried lxde and same result
[22:58] <danes> hello, I am trying to mount a hdd that was formatted as raid. I am not very experienced. Doing a fdisk -l shows the hdd on /dev/sdc and a partition on /dev/sdc1 with Id = 83. I need to mount the hdd and backup the data. How can I do it? I tried sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mntpoint but I get this msg back: mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[22:58] <alexxxa2222> QA Hardware team? Please add this (my) specs to temporarily list on wiki here ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware) http://pastebin.com/nzHzs1Ri
[22:58] <Coover55> It's even listed as an ext4 format
[22:58] <pycoderf> k1l: thus i think its an ubuntu issue at this point since normal ssh works
[22:59] <k1l> pycoderf: what errors do you get?
[22:59] <pycoderf> k1l: in .xsess-errors i see xsession connected then all it says is open: Permission denied
[22:59] <Coover55> Beldar You still there?
[22:59] <Beldar> Coover55, You have windows imaged/cloned and a recovery disc?
[22:59] <k1l> pycoderf: who is owner of .XAuthority in /home?
[22:59] <alexxxa2222> I repeat: QA Hardware team? Please add this (my) specs to temporarily list on wiki here ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware) http://pastebin.com/nzHzs1Ri
[23:00] <pycoderf> k1l: my user
[23:00] <Beldar> Coover55, use my nick each time.
[23:00] <danes> anyone? please?
[23:00] <pycoderf> but it only has 600 permissions for some reason
[23:00] <Coover55> Beldar, I don't think so. I have a Toshiba Satellite that came with Win8 preinstalled, so I don't have anything extra
[23:00] <k1l> pycoderf: 0600 user:user is fine
[23:00] <Coover55> Beldar, More precisely Win8.1
[23:01] <pycoderf> ok. i have been fighting this for days
[23:02] <Beldar> Coover55, Two important links, read please.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:03] <Beldar> Coover55, Best thing you can do is make that W8.1 /image/clone and the recovery disc as suggested in the UF thread.
[23:04] <Beldar> as a start
[23:05] <Coover55> Dude my BIOS is set up properly. SafeBoot is off it's not on UEFI boot mode etc. etc.
[23:06] <Coover55> And I don't see any point in making a recovery CD for W8 if I'm not going to effect it
[23:06] <Coover55> Sorry, Beldar. Those last two messages were at you I forgot to put your name there haha
[23:06] <Beldar> Coover55, cool, best if luck.
[23:06] <Beldar> of*
[23:07] <Coover55> Beldar, that's not really very helpful. You've told me everything I already know
[23:07] <Caleb--> is there any way to launch a specific terminal from command-line and make its window be always on top?
[23:07] <pycoderf> k1l: am i missing somethibng
[23:08] <k1l> pycoderf: sry, dont know
[23:08] <pycoderf> it is odd its any x11
[23:08] <k1l> pycoderf: maybe pastebin the .xsession-errors
[23:08] <k1l> or other error messages you ger
[23:08] <pycoderf> its a vm but i can screenshot
[23:09] <k1l> *get
[23:09] <Coover55> Beldar, are you still there or do you really not have more help for me?
[23:09] <k1l> if you can ssh use pastbinit
[23:11] <jhutchins> Coover55: The people in here are just fellow users, often just waiting for their own questions to be answered.  We try to be helpful when we can, but this isn't a paid helpdesk.
[23:11] <pycoderf> k1l: http://imgur.com/ht0mf8Z
[23:11] <jhutchins> Coover55: The best way to get help is to ask the question generally instead of insisting on help from a specific user.  It's possible nobody knows your particular problem.
[23:12] <Coover55> jhutchins, I know that, but you can't just tell someone "Yeah good luck" and then ignore them
[23:12] <pycoderf> k1l: see just like i said
[23:12] <Coover55> It's a bit rude
[23:12] <bazhang> !attitude | Coover55
[23:13] <Coover55> Attitude?
[23:13] <Coover55> I don't even have an attitude.
[23:13] <bazhang> Coover55, dont target users, ask every 15 mins or so
[23:13] <jhutchins> Coover55: Sounds like you have a bad installer.  Have you verified the md5sum of the iso file and of the burned disc?
[23:14] <Coover55> I'm not using a disc to install. I put all the ISO info onto my external hard drive
[23:14] <Coover55> So I can do that without the need of a disc.
[23:14] <bazhang> iso info?
[23:14] <Coover55> ISO Downloaded directly from official Ubuntu site, bazhang
[23:15] <bazhang> did you unpack the iso?
[23:15] <Coover55> Indeed. My dad changed some stuff around though because it wasn't working perfect so I'm not sure how it's arranged right now.
[23:15] <k1l> pycoderf: is something interessting in xorg log in /var/log?
[23:15] <bazhang> how did you get the iso on the disk
[23:16] <pycoderf> k1l:  i dont have that log
[23:16] <Coover55> bazhang, When I did it I just extracted the files from the ISO straight to the hard drive.
[23:16] <bazhang> Coover55, that wont work
[23:16] <Coover55> Clicking "Try Ubuntu without installing" works perfect, despite some drivers
[23:16] <Coover55> Just graphics drivers issues
[23:17] <k1l> Xorg.0.log pycoderf
[23:17] <pycoderf> no
[23:18] <Coover55> Actually now that I think about it I used a program to install the ISO properly to my External Drive
[23:18] <Coover55> Don't remember the name but it worked
[23:20] <Coover55> Just kinda upset cuz I've tried to install this around 10 times now and it hasn't worked any of those times
[23:20] <Coover55> Hm, this is new
[23:20] <Coover55> New line in the installation
[23:21] <Coover55> It says "(root) CMD (  cd / && run-parts --report .etc.cron.hourly)
[23:21] <Coover55> Without the quotation marks, my bad
[23:22] <Coover55> Actually there's a few lines I've missed wince I was here on this chat
[23:22] <Coover55> Should I assume it's just going EXTREMELY slow? It shouldn't be, it's USB 3.0 and it's never been slow in the past...
[23:23] <pycoderf> k1l: i do not have that log anywhere
[23:23] <plazma_> plazmax
[23:24] <Coover55> Hm, actually I have another question for now
[23:25] <pycoderf> anyone else know why permission would be denied to x sessions?
[23:25] <Coover55> If I install Ubuntu to the external hard drive from a different computer than that I intend to use it on, should I still be able to use that install on the computer I DO intend to use it on?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Coover55: ->to a different computer, maybe yes - maybe not so yes. When installing, the kernel is compiled for what hardware is present. The other system may be drastically different.
[23:30] <Coover55> Hmmm
[23:30] <Coover55> Well I have 8GB of RAM on intended PC, and less powerful GPU
[23:30] <capoderra> can somebody help me tweak my fan on my sony vaio? I used to run Ubuntu on this laptop, but uninstalled it after it overheated a couple times. I want the fan to spin faster even if it means being loud.
[23:31] <Coover55> 4GB of RAM on THIS PC, and a more powerful GPU
[23:31] <capoderra> I'm running 12.04 on a live USB
[23:31] <Coover55> Bashing-om sorry, those msgs were intended for you
[23:31] <Coover55> Forgot to put your name
[23:32] <Coover55> And brb
[23:32] <capoderra> in /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/ there is a file that's called thermal_control
[23:32] <capoderra> inside the file it says "balanced"
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Coover55: What you run into is different cpu's, different hardwares, different drivers required, and of course checkings/altering UUIDs as needed.
[23:34] <capoderra> there's another file called thermal_profiles and inside it has "balanced silent performance"
[23:36] <wjlafrance> Bashing-on: doesn't ubuntu use a precompiled kernel?
[23:36] <icloud> i tried to create a cache folder for chrome in /tmp, i put the script in /etc/rc.local but the folder is never created on boot, can someone help?
[23:38] <Coover55> Back
[23:39] <Coover55> Bashing-on: Is there a way to update / correct / whatever-you-want-to-call-it the kernel when I launch on my laptop?
[23:42] <pycoderf> anyone else have ideas why my clients cannot log in
[23:46] <Aikar> how can i make apt-get ignore a dependency error and forget about it permanently? percona 5.6 forgot to specify the line that says it provides mysql-common like 5.5 had and now workbench is trying to install normal 5.5 stuff and remove percona. PErcona and workbench works fine... i need it to ignore the dependency issue
[23:46] <Aikar> and trying to downgrade to 5.5 percona totally didnt work either
[23:46] <in_deep_thought> what is the directory in which the home directory called? how can I copy files into it?
[23:49] <pdo_fn14> in_deep_thought: do you mean dir: /home/UserName, which UserNme can be changed depend your username on your ubuntu OS.
[23:50] <Dan> hey all
[23:51] <Dan> anyone can help me out here?
[23:51] <in_deep_thought> when I open a new terminal and it shows alex@alex-ThinkPad-T410, I want to know the name of that directory
[23:51] <k1l> in_deep_thought: "pwd"
[23:51] <k1l> in_deep_thought: and that folder is /home/user by default
[23:52] <Dan> Where do i put all my website files in ubuntu serv 12.04
[23:52] <Dan> ?
[23:52] <in_deep_thought> so how can I copy files into it? I tried copying a file into /home/user but when I do that, then open a new terminal and enter ls, it doesn't show my copied file
[23:53] <Coover55> Can anybody else help me with my installation problems?
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Coover55: wjlafrance ; Now we are getting deep. magic does happen. Adjustments are made in the kernel between what is loaded into as a ram image, and what gets written back to the hard drive.
[23:53] <in_deep_thought> oh nvm I did it with sudo cp -r
[23:53] <k1l> in_deep_thought: you need to change user with your actual user name
[23:53] <k1l> in_deep_thought: and dont ever user sudo where no sudo is needed
[23:54] <Coover55> Bashing-on: So basically you're saying if I can install it successfully on another computer it would work on my laptop?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> in_deep_thought: try as : cp <file> /home/alex/<file> ... short hand ~/ == /home/alex . Hope this helps.