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kRushlooks like not a lot is changing with the next version00:27
flybackhow the canuck do you change sound cards00:40
* flyback pay just rm -rf the kernel module00:40
dna6awhat is the best editor for editing a sh file?00:45
dna6ai have abiword and mousepad as default options00:46
dna6ais there an app called hexeditor built into xubuntu? or is that a package to install?00:46
Unit193Err, abiword?  Wouldn't recommend that, mousepad, vim, nano, or something like that would be much better.00:46
dna6aty00:47
Unit193You can install a hexeditor, wxhexeditor isn't bad.00:47
David-Adna6a: gedit and kate supports syntax coloring for lots of languages, including shell scripts. iirc mouspad and leafpad don't. kate has some dependencies with kde or qt.01:05
Unit193David-A: mousepad does, leafie doesn't.01:06
David-Adna6a: nano also supports syntax coloring, but it is quite buggy. the coloring that is. nano without syntax coloring is fine if you want something simple.01:07
David-AUnit193: ok, sorry, my info is outdated then01:08
Unit193No problem, it's not bad.01:09
dna6ais there a sudo reboot that i can force that doesnt load any startup scripts?01:24
cubed_rootkate is a great editor01:32
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cubed_rootdna6a, sudo shutdown -r now01:38
dna6aty01:43
dna6athat will just temp disable startups correct?01:44
dna6ai dont want it to permanently disable the startupsn just once for a clean reboot with vanilla ubuntu running01:44
David-Adna6a: what startups? do you want some of the services/daemons not to start automatically?01:58
m1chaeli was messing with hooking a TV to my xubuntu 13.10, and started changing resolutions around, and screwed up. now i can't boot in to xubuntu. once i get to the desktop after logging in, screen turns black, mouse pointer disappears, a majority of things turn black, etc.. what can i do? ;/01:59
m1chaelright now i am in windows01:59
cubed_rooti'm new to linux myself michael, but i'm wondering if xubuntu has an "extend monitors" mode that you're dropping into02:19
cubed_rootthis happens to my windows laptop all the time02:19
cubed_rootso i remove an external monitor but just seen an empty desktop because the "main" screen is pointing to a monitor that isn't connected any more02:19
David-Am1chael: do you have a failsafe option, in a session menu, before you login?02:21
m1chaelDavid-A, i thought I did, but it doesn't seem to be working02:22
m1chaeli'm going to try a few things. i'll be back02:24
dna6ai have a sh file that loads on boot, I didnt set this system up, but am trying to find where to find where it is? I have changed the sh but didnt have permission to save it, so if i can change the loading sh file to the new one I made that would be awesome02:34
Poisoned_Dragonsudo your-txteditor file.sh02:36
Poisoned_Dragonif you want your file browser to have privileges, sudo thunar.02:37
Poisoned_DragonThen you can open files, with their associated programs with privilege automatically.02:38
dna6aPoisoned_Dragon sorry man this is my first linux experience02:40
dna6aim using mousepad to edit the sh file02:40
Poisoned_DragonOh, those are terminal commands02:40
dna6ais there a default admin/root login?02:40
Poisoned_Dragonso in terminal it would be, sudo mousepad /path/to/file02:40
dna6alike if i log back in as root i can save the sh file?02:41
Poisoned_Dragonno... here. press Alt+F202:41
Poisoned_Dragonwhen you get the run box, type: xfce4-terminal02:42
Poisoned_Dragondid you get a terminal box yet?02:42
dna6ayep02:43
Poisoned_Dragondo you just want to edit the file?02:44
dna6ayeah its in the home dir02:44
dna6aits called miner_launcher.sh02:45
Poisoned_Dragonwell, you can edit your own files, in your home directory, without root privilege. Are you trying to save that file somewhere else?02:45
dna6ano im trying to save it where it was but i dont have permission02:45
dna6awhere it is*02:46
Poisoned_Dragonhuh... odd.02:46
dna6ais it because its running or something I dont have permission?02:46
dna6aor is it a user access issue?02:46
Poisoned_Dragonusually, everything in your home directory is your's to create or destroy.02:46
Poisoned_DragonSo, unless the file was made with root privilege in the first place, I'm surprised you can't edit it without privilege.02:47
m1chaelhey guys. i was here a few moments ago complaining about my display. i fixed it by deleting displays.xml in my user directory02:47
Poisoned_DragonAnyhow.... in terminal, type sudo mousepad /path/to/your/file.sh02:47
dna6ais there a default user/pw for root access? the guy I bought it off only gave me the one login and there are no other users in user/groups02:48
Poisoned_Dragonawesome, m1chael02:48
m1chaelyeah, my night isn't ruined after all :)02:48
dna6aso 'sudo mousepad /home/username/editthis.sh'02:48
Poisoned_DragonYes, dna6a. like that. it''s ask for your password.02:49
Poisoned_Dragon*it'll02:49
dna6aok ty will try now02:49
Poisoned_Dragondna6a, reminder. in terminal, you won't see your password being typed. it's a security feature.02:49
Poisoned_DragonOr rather, "security feature". It's debatable.02:50
dna6aok it launched the file but its empty?02:53
dna6awith a warning sign in red02:53
Poisoned_DragonWas it always empty?02:54
dna6ano02:54
Poisoned_Dragonthe sign in red is to warn you that you're editing the file as root02:54
dna6ahow do i flip through all open windows like alt tab in windows?02:55
Poisoned_DragonThen you must have mucked up the file location. Just close it and verify02:55
dna6amaybe I left the file open thus why its empty?02:55
Poisoned_Dragonalr+tab02:55
Poisoned_DragonNo, it would still be populated02:55
Poisoned_DragonUnless, where it is opened, it's not saved.02:55
krytarik!gksudo | Poisoned_Dragon, dna6a02:56
ubottuPoisoned_Dragon, dna6a: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:56
Poisoned_DragonI'll keep that in mind, given the conversation. Personally, it hasn't bitten me on the hindquarters yet.02:57
dna6afml i pointed it to the wrong sh i put . instead of _ the resolution on this 'tv' monitor isnt crystal clear :P02:57
dna6ai think im winning thi02:57
Poisoned_DragonAh, there you go02:57
dna6aok :)02:59
dna6arebooting npw02:59
dna6afingers crossed02:59
* Poisoned_Dragon is crossing fingers02:59
dna6ai dont understand if I am logged in as the only user on system, i should have full admin though03:01
Poisoned_DragonNo no... that's by design.03:01
dna6aim getting something new pop up?03:03
dna6aunlock.login jeyring03:03
dna6akeyring03:03
Poisoned_Dragon?03:03
dna6aenter password to unlock your login keyring03:04
Poisoned_DragonThat one might be outside my level of expertise.03:04
dna6athe login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer03:04
Poisoned_DragonIt should be your login password, I hope.03:04
dna6ayeah but will this occur everytime?03:04
Poisoned_DragonI don't remember. I haven't had it happen to me in a long time.03:05
dna6aok sweet03:05
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StrangeRathello04:59
akishi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?06:34
akis1hi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?06:48
akis1solved. it was hidden under dolphin!06:49
spark_hello everyone i just installed xubuntu on my old lenovo thinkpad X200 and the sound card dosent seams to be picked up  by alsa ... ubuntu does pick it up could it be just alsa not working propely ?07:18
spark_also my firefox does crash on launch07:21
xubuntu406hello09:07
cfhowlettxubuntu406, greetings09:07
xubuntu406i am a new user09:07
xubuntu406of xubunto09:07
cfhowlettgreat.  what's your issue?09:07
xubuntu406i had just downloaded it09:08
xubuntu406fadi09:08
xubuntu406i had dual boot with windows xp now using wubi09:08
xubuntu406i have 10 GB, i think they are just full09:09
cfhowlettwubi is no longer supported.  your options are a proper dual boot or virtualization - virtualbox works09:10
xubuntu406how could i increase the GB on Xubuntu and decrease it on Windows?09:10
baizonxubuntu406: gparted09:10
xubuntu406Where to open the gparted09:10
cfhowlettbaizon, with wubi?  nope.09:11
elfyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeWubiDisk09:11
cubThe decreasing part on Windows is quite tedious work.09:11
baizoncfhowlett: run from livecd and do it then?09:11
elfyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk09:12
cfhowlettbaizon, ask someone who still runs wubi - it's unsupported so I don't touch it09:12
xubuntu406And if i would like to delete the boot on Windows after09:12
xubuntu406i would like just have the boot to Xubuntu only after09:12
cfhowlettxubuntu406, wait, you want xubuntu only?  no windows at all?09:13
elfyxubuntu406: are you saying that you want to actually remove windows?09:13
xubuntu406yes but i still have some documents on it i will transfer them with the usb stick09:13
xubuntu406i would like first to have more GB and still dual booting till i will transfer all the document to the Xubuntu and after i would like just to have one boot only to Linux Xubuntu09:15
xubuntu406Cause now i find it much more cool than the Xp i am having09:15
xubuntu406and there will be no support on it after09:16
xubuntu406and i have the 12.04 LTS Version i think till 2015 i may have support on it09:16
cfhowlett!lts09:17
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)09:17
xubuntu406but i hadnot used Linux before09:17
elfyxubuntu406: well - you can resize wubi disk - look at the 2 wiki's I linked, then you can install xubuntu properly - let it do it's resize thing - then you will have a real install AND windows AND the wubi one09:20
elfythen do your're backups - then when you're ready you can just remove the windows partition09:20
xubuntu406So if i had to delate Windows and having one boot i think it would not be so easy as i saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkh-2tYt1g409:20
elfyremoving windows is as simple as booting the xubuntu live and then telling it to use the whole disk - it will do that09:21
xubuntu406can i get from the Xubuntu boot to Windows boot to transfer the documents to it without using the USB Stick09:33
elfynot that I know of - the wubi install is not a partition - it's just a file09:34
xubuntu406ok09:34
LonelyDanboI was told to get proprietary graphics drivers: software center, edit, software sources, additional drivers tab, install the latest nvidia driver09:57
LonelyDanbobut I don't know how to identify the latest proprietary nvidia drivers09:57
LonelyDanboNVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver) ?09:58
LonelyDanboI've been told it is.10:02
arrithdangit danbo11:35
arrithnvidia-current odoyle rules11:35
starratsmorning arrith11:37
xusr78Hi all. I'm going to disable the graphical login manager according to http://myridia.com/dev_posts/view/26011:44
xusr78What is a proper way starting XFCE from command line after login? startxfce4 or gdm start?11:45
xusr78I did so, now when I run startxfce4, a complete diffeneny/out of the box profile is loaded12:09
xusr78How to load the existing one already present?12:09
superprowerhi all, i have a problem. When i start the pc and load xubuntu, some apps who doesn't checked in autostart starts automatic, like abiword or chrome. Is there solution to this?12:50
cfhowlettsuperprower, sounds like you've got "remember session" set to yes.12:52
superprowercfhowlett, but i doesn't use abiword, lol. Anyway, where to disable it?12:53
jonzenis there a way to force wallpaper to load before autostart programs 14.04 beta115:31
cfhowlett!trusty|jonzen,15:32
ubottujonzen,: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+115:32
jonzenty15:32
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m1chaeli'm on ubuntu, i'm sshing in to one server, and then sshing in to another server. my nano colors are dark with the syntax highlighting,etc. how can i make it all white? it's killing my eyes16:29
baizonm1chael: change the color there?17:05
baizon*theme17:05
baizonm1chael: or you can try putty :)17:06
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koegsor change the color theme of the terminal17:20
baizonkoegs: was my first suggestion :P17:21
koegsbaizon: was not able to compute "change the color there"17:22
baizonkoegs: next line ;)17:22
Jake2Loaded 12.04 on old laptop. Broadcom BCM4306/3 wifi chip. installed firmware-b43-installer. Still no wifi. Help?17:49
Jake2chirp chirp.  later.17:55
knome...install firmware-b43legacy-installer.17:56
robbenHello.17:57
robbenI'm having issues getting my computer to boot Linux; can anyone help?17:58
ballI have vnc4server installed but it doesn't seem to interpret the tab key correctly, which is a bit annoying. I suppose I should see what keycodes it's getting when I hit tab.18:43
Unit193xev can do that, though I can tell you remmina+x11vnc takes the tab key.18:43
ballI don't know what a remmina is.18:45
Unit193VNC viewing application.18:45
balllooks like it got keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0...18:47
ballCtrl+I works as you'd expect.18:47
ball...and the same viewer works with VNC servers on other operating systems, so perhaps it's a Linux thing.18:48
ballDoes Tab mean something special in Linux?18:48
d2kalosespañol?18:50
balld2kalos didn't wait very long for a response.18:51
Unit193ball: Sometimes you have to tell the viewing application to take over the keyboard, but that's the only thing I can think of.18:52
flux242!ubottu es|d2kalos18:53
xubuntu765ive just installed xubuntu 12.04lts for my gpu 7870xt i can choose the normal one, the experiemental beta or the post-release one??? which is the good one?18:53
flux242!es ubottu|d2kalos18:53
ballUnit193: I don't believe the issue is at the viewer end.18:54
ball(because it works with other VNC servers).18:54
flux242grr, can never remember ubottu syntax18:54
Unit193flux242: He's long gone.18:54
flux242but the syntax is still there18:56
Unit193!foo | target18:56
ubottutarget: [baz|bar|wibble]18:56
ball!es | ball18:57
ubottuball, please see my private message18:57
ballHey, it works! :-)18:57
Unit193ball: And right, that'd make sense of course.  Never used that server, so can't really (attempt to) help.18:59
ballOn Xubuntu, how do I find out who a package maintainer is? I could feed back my observation to help with his or her future releases.19:01
Unit193ubuntu-bug package  is how you'd file bugs, but   apt-cache showsrc  will show who the maintainer is (Debian and Ubuntu.)  but there isn't really an Ubuntu maintainer.19:02
ballGreat, thanks!19:03
flux242ball: check launchpad.net too for that package19:06
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=vnc419:08
ballI emailed the package maintainer. Hopefully that wasn't inappropriate.19:18
ballI didn't ask him or her to do anything, just fed it back as an observation.19:19
Noskcajball, Which package?19:19
ballNoskaj: vnc4server19:19
Unit193(Tagged help in Debian)19:19
ballUnit193: I don't know what that means.19:21
OhSnapitsMikelHello there i just came across a dell latitude d800 laying around would xubuntu be a decent distribution for a labtop??20:30
OhSnapitsMikelor would something lighter like lubuntu be better?20:30
bekksBoth will be ok.20:32
OhSnapitsMikelcool thanks!20:33
OhSnapitsMikelyeah windows xp is still on this and that is going to be losing support soon if i am not mistaken20:33
Unit193OhSnapitsMikel: You're right.  Which one is that exactly?  Does it have PAE support?  If not, you'll have to wait for 14.04.20:34
bekksUnit193: 14.04 will have non-PAE support again? Even 12.04 doesnt.20:35
OhSnapitsMikelSorry kind of new to the linux crowd  what is PAE?20:36
Unit193bekks: No, but Pentium M "has" PAE, just doesn't advertise.  The kernel in 14.04 can use a boot option to ignore the need for that flag on a Pentium M device.  (Lucky for me, I have a late model Pentium that fully supports it.)20:36
Unit193bekks: Unknown how well it works, but it'll boot.20:37
OhSnapitsMikelIts worth the try this old laptop has just been laying around doing nothing20:37
Unit193PAE allows a 32bit operating system to use more than 4G of ram.  The CPU needs to support this.20:39
OhSnapitsMikelIntel Pentium M Processor 1.70GHz20:39
OhSnapitsMikelah ok i see20:39
Unit193The early Pentium M's didn't advertise they had this ability, could be because it wasn't enabled, or it didn't fully work, or something else.20:40
OhSnapitsMikelbooting with a image on dvd would probably be safer than trying with a usb??20:41
OhSnapitsMikeli have mostly played with linux through virtual box/vmware20:41
OhSnapitsMikelthis is the first machine i can devote to maybe screwing up ;) lol20:42
Unit193I like USB myself.20:42
OhSnapitsMikelso you just slap the disc image file on a usb then and plug it in and boot from there?20:43
OhSnapitsMikeldoes the usb have to be in a certian format??20:43
Unit193I'd use http://linuxliveusb.com/ from windows.20:44
OhSnapitsMikeloh ok cool20:44
OhSnapitsMikelthanks20:45
OhSnapitsMikeldeswitched over to my desktop while i try and install on the laptop20:47
flux242OhSnapitsMikel: I'd wait for the 14.04 lts image. Second I'd not recommend to use the default installation iso image21:24
OhSnapitsMikelah ok why is that?21:25
OhSnapitsMikelis that a long ways out?21:25
flux242should be out in april21:26
OhSnapitsMikeli was going to go with 32 bit intel install21:26
OhSnapitsMikelwhat was the concern with going this route?21:26
flux242the default image is bloated21:26
flux242not good for an old computer21:27
OhSnapitsMikeloh just a lot of clean up on how the smooth the syustem runs then?21:27
flux242you may read this first http://flux242.blogspot.de/2013/11/minimal-xubuntu-1310-desktop.html21:28
OhSnapitsMikelah ok well thanks for all the help :) gotta go though21:35
StrangeRathey guys i have a bash script i am trying to run this bash       bash openspades_install.bash21:38
StrangeRatbut when i do it says this openspades_install.bash: No such file or directory21:38
nono_i need help!!21:48
nono_:)21:48
bekks!help | nono_21:53
ubottunono_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:53
knoipshello, i have a big problem, i was using xubuntu 12.04 and have installed python 3.3 today, after it said me, pygame was not found, i look up for the problem and thought it was because on the system alreadz pzthon 2,7 was installed... so i uninstalled with the packet center pythen 2.7. jjust right now i restart my system and it wont start with this distro anymore. right now i am using xubuntu 12.4 lie22:09
knoipslive22:09
knoipsit hang on a while bootin at `loading clock` or something else22:10
knoipsis there a possibilitz to rescue the distro22:11
knoipsis there a tool to recover at least the files on the system with the live distro22:14
knoipsi have here a big hdd so i would store all files there and after it get a new distro on the pc22:15
not_foundyes it is possible to mount harddrives in a live session and copy data from one to the other22:17
knoipshow_22:19
holsteina file manager will let you copy files from one drive to another.. any live CD will have a file manager22:19
holsteinknoips: you open the source and destination and copy what you like22:19
not_foundI am not sure if they will show-up in Thunar by default (I know in Ubunutu you can use the disk utility to mount them)22:20
sydney__what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?22:20
knoipswhen i now open the home folder there is only the xubuntu user name22:20
sydney__what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?22:20
holsteinsydney__: please relax, and dont cross post, or repeat22:20
holsteinsydney__: most folks just use a text editor to write22:21
holsteinknoips: the home folder is just that.. the home folder of the live user22:21
holsteinknoips: you will want to open the source, the place where your files are, and the destination, the driver you want to copy to, and copy22:21
sydney__Sorry about that,I didnt mean to be pushy.22:21
not_foundknoips: ask ubuntu has some pictures (makes it easier to explain) - http://askubuntu.com/questions/190239/how-to-access-hard-drive-files-from-livecd22:22
knoipsah... first think then type... i got it... i was in the wrong partition. oh man.. ok i will back all stuff up and install the distro new.. tomorrow22:24
knoipsthank all22:24
StrangeRathello :)22:26
xubuntu917hola22:29
StrangeRathow do i run a bash script22:29
StrangeRati downloaded it and put it is in downloads folder22:30
xubuntu917holaaaaaaaaaa22:30
xubuntu917hola alguien que me quiera responder una pregunta22:30
xubuntu917que tengo22:30
xubuntu917hi22:30
holsteinStrangeRat: "it" should have directions... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting22:30
StrangeRatoh i am sorry i am being vague22:31
xubuntu917spanish ?22:31
holsteinStrangeRat: specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting22:31
holstein!es | xubuntu91722:31
ubottuxubuntu917: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:31
StrangeRatit is a script that my friend on here arrith wrote for installing a game22:31
StrangeRatill look at the link22:32
holsteinStrangeRat: ask your friend what you are supposed to do with it.. or, look at the information i linked about running bash scripts22:32
StrangeRati am looking at what you sent me now thank you he told me to download the script ==> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2fb9251b017edab1ba522:33
StrangeRatand then run it but im not getting any response from the terminal22:34
StrangeRati will pastebin it22:34
xubuntu917my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i22:35
xubuntu618my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i22:37
xubuntu017I do say it is a might risky to run an irc client as root during an o/s install don't ya think? :P22:42

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