[00:27] <kRush> looks like not a lot is changing with the next version
[00:40] <flyback> how the canuck do you change sound cards
[00:40]  * flyback pay just rm -rf the kernel module
[00:45] <dna6a> what is the best editor for editing a sh file?
[00:46] <dna6a> i have abiword and mousepad as default options
[00:46] <dna6a> is there an app called hexeditor built into xubuntu? or is that a package to install?
[00:46] <Unit193> Err, abiword?  Wouldn't recommend that, mousepad, vim, nano, or something like that would be much better.
[00:47] <dna6a> ty
[00:47] <Unit193> You can install a hexeditor, wxhexeditor isn't bad.
[01:05] <David-A> dna6a: gedit and kate supports syntax coloring for lots of languages, including shell scripts. iirc mouspad and leafpad don't. kate has some dependencies with kde or qt.
[01:06] <Unit193> David-A: mousepad does, leafie doesn't.
[01:07] <David-A> dna6a: nano also supports syntax coloring, but it is quite buggy. the coloring that is. nano without syntax coloring is fine if you want something simple.
[01:08] <David-A> Unit193: ok, sorry, my info is outdated then
[01:09] <Unit193> No problem, it's not bad.
[01:24] <dna6a> is there a sudo reboot that i can force that doesnt load any startup scripts?
[01:32] <cubed_root> kate is a great editor
[01:38] <cubed_root> dna6a, sudo shutdown -r now
[01:43] <dna6a> ty
[01:44] <dna6a> that will just temp disable startups correct?
[01:44] <dna6a> i dont want it to permanently disable the startupsn just once for a clean reboot with vanilla ubuntu running
[01:58] <David-A> dna6a: what startups? do you want some of the services/daemons not to start automatically?
[01:59] <m1chael> i was messing with hooking a TV to my xubuntu 13.10, and started changing resolutions around, and screwed up. now i can't boot in to xubuntu. once i get to the desktop after logging in, screen turns black, mouse pointer disappears, a majority of things turn black, etc.. what can i do? ;/
[01:59] <m1chael> right now i am in windows
[02:19] <cubed_root> i'm new to linux myself michael, but i'm wondering if xubuntu has an "extend monitors" mode that you're dropping into
[02:19] <cubed_root> this happens to my windows laptop all the time
[02:19] <cubed_root> so i remove an external monitor but just seen an empty desktop because the "main" screen is pointing to a monitor that isn't connected any more
[02:21] <David-A> m1chael: do you have a failsafe option, in a session menu, before you login?
[02:22] <m1chael> David-A, i thought I did, but it doesn't seem to be working
[02:24] <m1chael> i'm going to try a few things. i'll be back
[02:34] <dna6a> i have a sh file that loads on boot, I didnt set this system up, but am trying to find where to find where it is? I have changed the sh but didnt have permission to save it, so if i can change the loading sh file to the new one I made that would be awesome
[02:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo your-txteditor file.sh
[02:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you want your file browser to have privileges, sudo thunar.
[02:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you can open files, with their associated programs with privilege automatically.
[02:40] <dna6a> Poisoned_Dragon sorry man this is my first linux experience
[02:40] <dna6a> im using mousepad to edit the sh file
[02:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, those are terminal commands
[02:40] <dna6a> is there a default admin/root login?
[02:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> so in terminal it would be, sudo mousepad /path/to/file
[02:41] <dna6a> like if i log back in as root i can save the sh file?
[02:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> no... here. press Alt+F2
[02:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> when you get the run box, type: xfce4-terminal
[02:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you get a terminal box yet?
[02:43] <dna6a> yep
[02:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> do you just want to edit the file?
[02:44] <dna6a> yeah its in the home dir
[02:45] <dna6a> its called miner_launcher.sh
[02:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> well, you can edit your own files, in your home directory, without root privilege. Are you trying to save that file somewhere else?
[02:45] <dna6a> no im trying to save it where it was but i dont have permission
[02:46] <dna6a> where it is*
[02:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> huh... odd.
[02:46] <dna6a> is it because its running or something I dont have permission?
[02:46] <dna6a> or is it a user access issue?
[02:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> usually, everything in your home directory is your's to create or destroy.
[02:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, unless the file was made with root privilege in the first place, I'm surprised you can't edit it without privilege.
[02:47] <m1chael> hey guys. i was here a few moments ago complaining about my display. i fixed it by deleting displays.xml in my user directory
[02:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> Anyhow.... in terminal, type sudo mousepad /path/to/your/file.sh
[02:48] <dna6a> is there a default user/pw for root access? the guy I bought it off only gave me the one login and there are no other users in user/groups
[02:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> awesome, m1chael
[02:48] <m1chael> yeah, my night isn't ruined after all :)
[02:48] <dna6a> so 'sudo mousepad /home/username/editthis.sh'
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yes, dna6a. like that. it''s ask for your password.
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> *it'll
[02:49] <dna6a> ok ty will try now
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> dna6a, reminder. in terminal, you won't see your password being typed. it's a security feature.
[02:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or rather, "security feature". It's debatable.
[02:53] <dna6a> ok it launched the file but its empty?
[02:53] <dna6a> with a warning sign in red
[02:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> Was it always empty?
[02:54] <dna6a> no
[02:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> the sign in red is to warn you that you're editing the file as root
[02:55] <dna6a> how do i flip through all open windows like alt tab in windows?
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you must have mucked up the file location. Just close it and verify
[02:55] <dna6a> maybe I left the file open thus why its empty?
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> alr+tab
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, it would still be populated
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Unless, where it is opened, it's not saved.
[02:56] <krytarik> !gksudo | Poisoned_Dragon, dna6a
[02:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'll keep that in mind, given the conversation. Personally, it hasn't bitten me on the hindquarters yet.
[02:57] <dna6a> fml i pointed it to the wrong sh i put . instead of _ the resolution on this 'tv' monitor isnt crystal clear :P
[02:57] <dna6a> i think im winning thi
[02:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah, there you go
[02:59] <dna6a> ok :)
[02:59] <dna6a> rebooting npw
[02:59] <dna6a> fingers crossed
[02:59]  * Poisoned_Dragon is crossing fingers
[03:01] <dna6a> i dont understand if I am logged in as the only user on system, i should have full admin though
[03:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> No no... that's by design.
[03:03] <dna6a> im getting something new pop up?
[03:03] <dna6a> unlock.login jeyring
[03:03] <dna6a> keyring
[03:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> ?
[03:04] <dna6a> enter password to unlock your login keyring
[03:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> That one might be outside my level of expertise.
[03:04] <dna6a> the login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer
[03:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> It should be your login password, I hope.
[03:04] <dna6a> yeah but will this occur everytime?
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't remember. I haven't had it happen to me in a long time.
[03:05] <dna6a> ok sweet
[04:59] <StrangeRat> hello
[06:34] <akis> hi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?
[06:48] <akis1> hi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?
[06:49] <akis1> solved. it was hidden under dolphin!
[07:18] <spark_> hello everyone i just installed xubuntu on my old lenovo thinkpad X200 and the sound card dosent seams to be picked up  by alsa ... ubuntu does pick it up could it be just alsa not working propely ?
[07:21] <spark_> also my firefox does crash on launch
[09:07] <xubuntu406> hello
[09:07] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406, greetings
[09:07] <xubuntu406> i am a new user
[09:07] <xubuntu406> of xubunto
[09:07] <cfhowlett> great.  what's your issue?
[09:08] <xubuntu406> i had just downloaded it
[09:08] <xubuntu406> fadi
[09:08] <xubuntu406> i had dual boot with windows xp now using wubi
[09:09] <xubuntu406> i have 10 GB, i think they are just full
[09:10] <cfhowlett> wubi is no longer supported.  your options are a proper dual boot or virtualization - virtualbox works
[09:10] <xubuntu406> how could i increase the GB on Xubuntu and decrease it on Windows?
[09:10] <baizon> xubuntu406: gparted
[09:10] <xubuntu406> Where to open the gparted
[09:11] <cfhowlett> baizon, with wubi?  nope.
[09:11] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeWubiDisk
[09:11] <cub> The decreasing part on Windows is quite tedious work.
[09:11] <baizon> cfhowlett: run from livecd and do it then?
[09:12] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[09:12] <cfhowlett> baizon, ask someone who still runs wubi - it's unsupported so I don't touch it
[09:12] <xubuntu406> And if i would like to delete the boot on Windows after
[09:12] <xubuntu406> i would like just have the boot to Xubuntu only after
[09:13] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406, wait, you want xubuntu only?  no windows at all?
[09:13] <elfy> xubuntu406: are you saying that you want to actually remove windows?
[09:13] <xubuntu406> yes but i still have some documents on it i will transfer them with the usb stick
[09:15] <xubuntu406> i would like first to have more GB and still dual booting till i will transfer all the document to the Xubuntu and after i would like just to have one boot only to Linux Xubuntu
[09:15] <xubuntu406> Cause now i find it much more cool than the Xp i am having
[09:16] <xubuntu406> and there will be no support on it after
[09:16] <xubuntu406> and i have the 12.04 LTS Version i think till 2015 i may have support on it
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !lts
[09:17] <xubuntu406> but i hadnot used Linux before
[09:20] <elfy> xubuntu406: well - you can resize wubi disk - look at the 2 wiki's I linked, then you can install xubuntu properly - let it do it's resize thing - then you will have a real install AND windows AND the wubi one
[09:20] <elfy> then do your're backups - then when you're ready you can just remove the windows partition
[09:20] <xubuntu406> So if i had to delate Windows and having one boot i think it would not be so easy as i saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkh-2tYt1g4
[09:21] <elfy> removing windows is as simple as booting the xubuntu live and then telling it to use the whole disk - it will do that
[09:33] <xubuntu406> can i get from the Xubuntu boot to Windows boot to transfer the documents to it without using the USB Stick
[09:34] <elfy> not that I know of - the wubi install is not a partition - it's just a file
[09:34] <xubuntu406> ok
[09:57] <LonelyDanbo> I was told to get proprietary graphics drivers: software center, edit, software sources, additional drivers tab, install the latest nvidia driver
[09:57] <LonelyDanbo> but I don't know how to identify the latest proprietary nvidia drivers
[09:58] <LonelyDanbo> NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver) ?
[10:02] <LonelyDanbo> I've been told it is.
[11:35] <arrith> dangit danbo
[11:35] <arrith> nvidia-current odoyle rules
[11:37] <starrats> morning arrith
[11:44] <xusr78> Hi all. I'm going to disable the graphical login manager according to http://myridia.com/dev_posts/view/260
[11:45] <xusr78> What is a proper way starting XFCE from command line after login? startxfce4 or gdm start?
[12:09] <xusr78> I did so, now when I run startxfce4, a complete diffeneny/out of the box profile is loaded
[12:09] <xusr78> How to load the existing one already present?
[12:50] <superprower> hi all, i have a problem. When i start the pc and load xubuntu, some apps who doesn't checked in autostart starts automatic, like abiword or chrome. Is there solution to this?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> superprower, sounds like you've got "remember session" set to yes.
[12:53] <superprower> cfhowlett, but i doesn't use abiword, lol. Anyway, where to disable it?
[15:31] <jonzen> is there a way to force wallpaper to load before autostart programs 14.04 beta1
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !trusty|jonzen,
[15:32] <jonzen> ty
[16:29] <m1chael> i'm on ubuntu, i'm sshing in to one server, and then sshing in to another server. my nano colors are dark with the syntax highlighting,etc. how can i make it all white? it's killing my eyes
[17:05] <baizon> m1chael: change the color there?
[17:05] <baizon> *theme
[17:06] <baizon> m1chael: or you can try putty :)
[17:20] <koegs> or change the color theme of the terminal
[17:21] <baizon> koegs: was my first suggestion :P
[17:22] <koegs> baizon: was not able to compute "change the color there"
[17:22] <baizon> koegs: next line ;)
[17:49] <Jake2> Loaded 12.04 on old laptop. Broadcom BCM4306/3 wifi chip. installed firmware-b43-installer. Still no wifi. Help?
[17:55] <Jake2> chirp chirp.  later.
[17:56] <knome> ...install firmware-b43legacy-installer.
[17:57] <robben> Hello.
[17:58] <robben> I'm having issues getting my computer to boot Linux; can anyone help?
[18:43] <ball> I have vnc4server installed but it doesn't seem to interpret the tab key correctly, which is a bit annoying. I suppose I should see what keycodes it's getting when I hit tab.
[18:43] <Unit193> xev can do that, though I can tell you remmina+x11vnc takes the tab key.
[18:45] <ball> I don't know what a remmina is.
[18:45] <Unit193> VNC viewing application.
[18:47] <ball> looks like it got keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0...
[18:47] <ball> Ctrl+I works as you'd expect.
[18:48] <ball> ...and the same viewer works with VNC servers on other operating systems, so perhaps it's a Linux thing.
[18:48] <ball> Does Tab mean something special in Linux?
[18:50] <d2kalos> español?
[18:51] <ball> d2kalos didn't wait very long for a response.
[18:52] <Unit193> ball: Sometimes you have to tell the viewing application to take over the keyboard, but that's the only thing I can think of.
[18:53] <flux242> !ubottu es|d2kalos
[18:53] <xubuntu765> ive just installed xubuntu 12.04lts for my gpu 7870xt i can choose the normal one, the experiemental beta or the post-release one??? which is the good one?
[18:53] <flux242> !es ubottu|d2kalos
[18:54] <ball> Unit193: I don't believe the issue is at the viewer end.
[18:54] <ball> (because it works with other VNC servers).
[18:54] <flux242> grr, can never remember ubottu syntax
[18:54] <Unit193> flux242: He's long gone.
[18:56] <flux242> but the syntax is still there
[18:56] <Unit193> !foo | target
[18:57] <ball> !es | ball
[18:57] <ball> Hey, it works! :-)
[18:59] <Unit193> ball: And right, that'd make sense of course.  Never used that server, so can't really (attempt to) help.
[19:01] <ball> On Xubuntu, how do I find out who a package maintainer is? I could feed back my observation to help with his or her future releases.
[19:02] <Unit193> ubuntu-bug package  is how you'd file bugs, but   apt-cache showsrc  will show who the maintainer is (Debian and Ubuntu.)  but there isn't really an Ubuntu maintainer.
[19:03] <ball> Great, thanks!
[19:06] <flux242> ball: check launchpad.net too for that package
[19:08] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=vnc4
[19:18] <ball> I emailed the package maintainer. Hopefully that wasn't inappropriate.
[19:19] <ball> I didn't ask him or her to do anything, just fed it back as an observation.
[19:19] <Noskcaj> ball, Which package?
[19:19] <ball> Noskaj: vnc4server
[19:19] <Unit193> (Tagged help in Debian)
[19:21] <ball> Unit193: I don't know what that means.
[20:30] <OhSnapitsMikel> Hello there i just came across a dell latitude d800 laying around would xubuntu be a decent distribution for a labtop??
[20:30] <OhSnapitsMikel> or would something lighter like lubuntu be better?
[20:32] <bekks> Both will be ok.
[20:33] <OhSnapitsMikel> cool thanks!
[20:33] <OhSnapitsMikel> yeah windows xp is still on this and that is going to be losing support soon if i am not mistaken
[20:34] <Unit193> OhSnapitsMikel: You're right.  Which one is that exactly?  Does it have PAE support?  If not, you'll have to wait for 14.04.
[20:35] <bekks> Unit193: 14.04 will have non-PAE support again? Even 12.04 doesnt.
[20:36] <OhSnapitsMikel> Sorry kind of new to the linux crowd  what is PAE?
[20:36] <Unit193> bekks: No, but Pentium M "has" PAE, just doesn't advertise.  The kernel in 14.04 can use a boot option to ignore the need for that flag on a Pentium M device.  (Lucky for me, I have a late model Pentium that fully supports it.)
[20:37] <Unit193> bekks: Unknown how well it works, but it'll boot.
[20:37] <OhSnapitsMikel> Its worth the try this old laptop has just been laying around doing nothing
[20:39] <Unit193> PAE allows a 32bit operating system to use more than 4G of ram.  The CPU needs to support this.
[20:39] <OhSnapitsMikel> Intel Pentium M Processor 1.70GHz
[20:39] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok i see
[20:40] <Unit193> The early Pentium M's didn't advertise they had this ability, could be because it wasn't enabled, or it didn't fully work, or something else.
[20:41] <OhSnapitsMikel> booting with a image on dvd would probably be safer than trying with a usb??
[20:41] <OhSnapitsMikel> i have mostly played with linux through virtual box/vmware
[20:42] <OhSnapitsMikel> this is the first machine i can devote to maybe screwing up ;) lol
[20:42] <Unit193> I like USB myself.
[20:43] <OhSnapitsMikel> so you just slap the disc image file on a usb then and plug it in and boot from there?
[20:43] <OhSnapitsMikel> does the usb have to be in a certian format??
[20:44] <Unit193> I'd use http://linuxliveusb.com/ from windows.
[20:44] <OhSnapitsMikel> oh ok cool
[20:45] <OhSnapitsMikel> thanks
[20:47] <OhSnapitsMikelde> switched over to my desktop while i try and install on the laptop
[21:24] <flux242> OhSnapitsMikel: I'd wait for the 14.04 lts image. Second I'd not recommend to use the default installation iso image
[21:25] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok why is that?
[21:25] <OhSnapitsMikel> is that a long ways out?
[21:26] <flux242> should be out in april
[21:26] <OhSnapitsMikel> i was going to go with 32 bit intel install
[21:26] <OhSnapitsMikel> what was the concern with going this route?
[21:26] <flux242> the default image is bloated
[21:27] <flux242> not good for an old computer
[21:27] <OhSnapitsMikel> oh just a lot of clean up on how the smooth the syustem runs then?
[21:28] <flux242> you may read this first http://flux242.blogspot.de/2013/11/minimal-xubuntu-1310-desktop.html
[21:35] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok well thanks for all the help :) gotta go though
[21:38] <StrangeRat> hey guys i have a bash script i am trying to run this bash       bash openspades_install.bash
[21:38] <StrangeRat> but when i do it says this openspades_install.bash: No such file or directory
[21:48] <nono_> i need help!!
[21:48] <nono_> :)
[21:53] <bekks> !help | nono_
[22:09] <knoips> hello, i have a big problem, i was using xubuntu 12.04 and have installed python 3.3 today, after it said me, pygame was not found, i look up for the problem and thought it was because on the system alreadz pzthon 2,7 was installed... so i uninstalled with the packet center pythen 2.7. jjust right now i restart my system and it wont start with this distro anymore. right now i am using xubuntu 12.4 lie
[22:09] <knoips> live
[22:10] <knoips> it hang on a while bootin at `loading clock` or something else
[22:11] <knoips> is there a possibilitz to rescue the distro
[22:14] <knoips> is there a tool to recover at least the files on the system with the live distro
[22:15] <knoips> i have here a big hdd so i would store all files there and after it get a new distro on the pc
[22:17] <not_found> yes it is possible to mount harddrives in a live session and copy data from one to the other
[22:19] <knoips> how_
[22:19] <holstein> a file manager will let you copy files from one drive to another.. any live CD will have a file manager
[22:19] <holstein> knoips: you open the source and destination and copy what you like
[22:20] <not_found> I am not sure if they will show-up in Thunar by default (I know in Ubunutu you can use the disk utility to mount them)
[22:20] <sydney__> what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?
[22:20] <knoips> when i now open the home folder there is only the xubuntu user name
[22:20] <sydney__> what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?
[22:20] <holstein> sydney__: please relax, and dont cross post, or repeat
[22:21] <holstein> sydney__: most folks just use a text editor to write
[22:21] <holstein> knoips: the home folder is just that.. the home folder of the live user
[22:21] <holstein> knoips: you will want to open the source, the place where your files are, and the destination, the driver you want to copy to, and copy
[22:21] <sydney__> Sorry about that,I didnt mean to be pushy.
[22:22] <not_found> knoips: ask ubuntu has some pictures (makes it easier to explain) - http://askubuntu.com/questions/190239/how-to-access-hard-drive-files-from-livecd
[22:24] <knoips> ah... first think then type... i got it... i was in the wrong partition. oh man.. ok i will back all stuff up and install the distro new.. tomorrow
[22:24] <knoips> thank all
[22:26] <StrangeRat> hello :)
[22:29] <xubuntu917> hola
[22:29] <StrangeRat> how do i run a bash script
[22:30] <StrangeRat> i downloaded it and put it is in downloads folder
[22:30] <xubuntu917> holaaaaaaaaaa
[22:30] <xubuntu917> hola alguien que me quiera responder una pregunta
[22:30] <xubuntu917> que tengo
[22:30] <xubuntu917> hi
[22:30] <holstein> StrangeRat: "it" should have directions... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[22:31] <StrangeRat> oh i am sorry i am being vague
[22:31] <xubuntu917> spanish ?
[22:31] <holstein> StrangeRat: specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting
[22:31] <holstein> !es | xubuntu917
[22:31] <StrangeRat> it is a script that my friend on here arrith wrote for installing a game
[22:32] <StrangeRat> ill look at the link
[22:32] <holstein> StrangeRat: ask your friend what you are supposed to do with it.. or, look at the information i linked about running bash scripts
[22:33] <StrangeRat> i am looking at what you sent me now thank you he told me to download the script ==> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2fb9251b017edab1ba5
[22:34] <StrangeRat> and then run it but im not getting any response from the terminal
[22:34] <StrangeRat> i will pastebin it
[22:35] <xubuntu917> my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i
[22:37] <xubuntu618> my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i
[22:42] <xubuntu017> I do say it is a might risky to run an irc client as root during an o/s install don't ya think? :P