[13:05] <frankban> guihelp: I need one review/QA for https://codereview.appspot.com/75190044 (charm, not so much to review, mostly QA). thanks
[13:11]  * frankban lunches
[13:11] <frankban> oh hatch, morning
[13:11] <hatch> morning!
[13:11] <hatch> how are you?
[13:12] <frankban> hatch: what do you think about pairing on juju-core stuff after my lunch?
[13:12] <hatch> hmm
[13:13] <hatch> one sec, I aven't actually started working yet :)
[13:13] <hatch> rick_h_ did you happen to add in any time on the schedule for me to pair with frankban on some core stuff?
[13:14] <hatch> frankban go for lunch, I'm sure we can work something out :)
[13:14] <hatch> if not it's not a huge deal :)
[13:21] <rick_h_> hatch: it's all good
[13:22] <rick_h_> hatch: I didn't schedule but I think it's valuable and support it. 
[13:22] <hatch> cool thanks
[13:46] <hatch> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/499144433/the-cardboard-standing-desk-stand-up-for-creativit
[13:52] <frankban> rick_h_: cool, and great quickstart article!
[13:53] <rick_h_> frankban: woot
[13:53] <rick_h_> frankban: thank you sir for the great work. It's getting rave reviews around everwhere
[13:53] <rick_h_> we'll be up on juju.ubuntu.com later today and there will be an insights blog post as well
[13:53] <rick_h_> it's "big quickstart + bundle" announcement day!
[13:55] <frankban> rick_h_: awesome, and, if new juju-core lands in trusty universe, we could also release quickstart 1.2
[13:55] <rick_h_> frankban: yea, saw they got 1.17.5 out 
[13:55] <rick_h_> frankban: so was going to bring that up
[13:55] <frankban> rick_h_: cool, thanks
[13:55] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[13:56] <rick_h_> jcastro: howdy
[13:56] <jcastro> let me confirm bundle URLs before the press release goes out
[13:56] <jcastro> juju quickstart bundle:~charmers/mondodb/cluster
[13:56] <jcastro> with ~charmers removed over time
[13:56] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, once 1.17.5 hits we should have ~charmers gone this week
[13:56] <jcastro> ok
[13:57] <jcastro> so what URLs should we give people to link to from the announcement?
[13:57] <rick_h_> jcastro: but yes, that's good
[13:57] <jcastro> just the tab in the bundle?
[13:57] <rick_h_> yea, we should include ~charmers. We're just not sync'd up
[13:57] <jcastro> no worries, that's not a big deal
[13:57] <rick_h_> oh, as far as for the jujucharms urls?
[13:57] <rick_h_> jcastro: I mean quickstart is that url ^ and is good. 
[13:58] <jcastro> yeah I would prefer they show the quickstart URLs I think
[13:58] <rick_h_> jcastro: if you want to link them to the GUI and a bundle let me know which ones and I'll get you a short url. https://jujucharms.com/bundle/~charmers/mongodb/cluster/ for instance
[13:58] <rick_h_> it's just the jujucharms.com/bundle/<quickstart url>
[14:00] <jcastro> nice, and I am assuming ~charmers will go away from that too?
[14:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: yes
[14:01] <jcastro> rick_h_, ok, let me feature 2 more, what was the feature URL for bundles again?
[14:01] <frankban> rick_h_, jcastro: yeah, FWIW, this will be the quickstart help for the new release: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7108268/
[14:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: http://manage.jujucharms.com/bundle/mediawiki/single/featured/edit
[14:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: note there's a lag in checking the box and them showing up. I think it's apache server cache stuff but should be ok after 20-30min
[14:02] <jcastro> ack
[14:07] <hatch> hey rick_h_  I had no luck with the other kernel, curious as to how you got that bug output so I can add mine to the ticket as well
[14:08] <frankban> hatch: let me know when you want to start, no rush
[14:08] <hatch> frankban: sure, I had to install bzr and now it's checking out the repo
[14:09] <hatch> unfortunately my plans to be on Ubuntu this week have been foiled
[14:13] <hatch> frankban https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi8r5qpbciv15ulg0da6lj8?authuser=1&hl=en whenever
[14:41] <jcastro> rick_h_, what was the TLDR on elasticsearch this weekend?
[14:50] <Makyo> jujugui call in 10
[14:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: IS brought up a staging environment that corrupted our production environment and the index needed to be rebuilt
[14:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: that's the TL;DR version
[14:54] <jcastro> oh ok so something caused it
[14:55] <jcastro> it just didn't like, crash or something
[14:55] <rick_h_> jcastro: yep, that's the thought at least. I can't prove it 100%
[14:58] <rick_h_> jujugui http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/juju-bundles-and-quickstart-create-an-entire-cloud-environment-in-seconds/ for the announcement 
[14:58] <Makyo> \o/
[14:58] <rick_h_> jujugui call in 3 just added the hangout link. Not sure where it went. 
[14:58] <benji> Makyo: how do we get to the hangout now?  The card doesn't have a "Video Conference" link and the tinyurl link leads to a "The Party's Over" page.
[14:59] <benji> heh
[14:59] <Makyo> benji, I have to open the event to see the link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/daily-standup?authuser=1&hceid=cmljay5oYXJkaW5nQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0
[15:25] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[15:25] <jcastro> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ian-clark/charms/bundles/importio-to-elasticsearch/bundle/files
[15:25] <jcastro> can you see if that bundle is not being ingested?
[15:25] <jcastro> I bet it's erroring out
[15:26] <rick_h_> jcastro: checking
[15:27] <rick_h_> E: envExport/importio: Could not find charm for service.
[15:27] <rick_h_> E: envExport: Invalid relation to charm: importio not found.
[15:27] <rick_h_> jcastro: proof fails because the charm is not there. 
[15:27] <rick_h_> it's a local charm, we don't support that in the store
[15:27] <jcastro> ack
[15:38] <bac> jujugui: robbie is running the pool again for the b'ball tournament.  get your picks in at http://ubun2.mayhem.cbssports.com  let's keep the trophy within Juju GUI again!
[15:57] <hatch> I pick whoever is statistically most likely to win
[15:58] <bac> hatch: there is a button for that
[16:02] <hatch> lol
[16:02] <hatch> I don't think I've ever watched more than 1/4 of a basketball game :)
[16:32] <hatch> I need to step out real quick, be back in about 20
[16:56] <jcastro> I will win
[16:57] <jcastro> actually, I have a critical mistake where all my submissions are with MSU coming out on top
[16:57] <rick_h_> lol
[16:57] <jcastro> I have UM/MSU in the national championship game in one bracket
[16:57] <jcastro> that's how far I am willing to go
[16:58] <rick_h_> go blue!
[16:58] <jcastro> you guys did awesome yesterday
[16:59] <hatch> back
[17:06] <bac> jcastro: i ditched loyalties this year and have UNC losing 2nd round.
[17:40] <hatch> rick_h_ did you see the response on your kernel bug?
[17:40] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, will have to find time to work through that process
[17:54] <rick_h_> bac: ping when you get a sec. Trying to figure out why I've got no index in charmworld. This get_aliased thing isn't ringing with a lot of sense atm
[17:54] <bac> hi rick_h_
[17:55] <rick_h_> bac: oh howdy
[17:55] <bac> chat?
[17:55] <rick_h_> bac: can see if it's up
[17:56] <rick_h_> bac: looks like still down
[17:56] <bac> hangouts is down?
[17:56] <rick_h_> I've got a call coming up. I can try to bug you later. Bad timing on my part. 
[17:56] <rick_h_> bac: yes, email went out about it. 
[18:01] <rick_h_> bac: yay call cancelled. Basically I'm getting this trace when trying to run charmworld? https://pastebin.canonical.com/106593/ seen anything like it? It's complaining that the real_index charms-55269 doesn't exist. Which I guess it doesn't? Not sure why it's doing that though. I thought it was just charms/
[18:02] <bac> rick_h_: the aliased indices is really confusing.  but, no, i've never seen one not exist like that.
[18:02] <bac> rick_h_: is the interview still on?
[18:03] <rick_h_> bac: I'm hoping so. Hangouts is kind of required for that. Not sure what we'd fall back to
[18:03] <rick_h_> bac: so if hangouts aren't operating I think we'll try to reschedule and send frankban a few cookies for putting up with us
[18:06] <rick_h_> bac:  oh hmm, I've got no indicies after es-update. 
[18:23] <benji> frankban: I am under the impression that the GUI charm's NRPE code (in scripts/charmsupport/) is from an external project; is that true?
[18:23]  * benji realizes frankban is probably past his EOD.
[18:23] <frankban> benji: I am here
[18:23] <benji> ah, cool
[18:24] <frankban> benji: yes, that sounds correct to me
[18:24] <benji> thanks
[18:25] <frankban> benji: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/charms/precise/juju-gui/trunk/revision/74
[18:25] <benji> cool, thanks
[18:31] <bac> rick_h_: hangouts still down.  no-go on interview?
[18:32] <rick_h_> bac: yea was just checking the stats dashboard. 
[18:32] <rick_h_> bac: surprised they've had things down for multiple hours. 
[18:32] <bac> t-30 is a good time to decide
[18:32] <rick_h_> bac: I'll email and reschedule. Sorry. Just not going to be the same sans-hangout
[18:32] <rick_h_> bac: +1
[18:32] <bac> thanks
[18:35] <rick_h_> frankban: bac Makyo so sent cancel email and will reschedule for later in the week
[18:35] <rick_h_> frankban: sorry about that :/
[18:36] <frankban> rick_h_: np, have a nice evening all!
[18:36] <Makyo> Okay, sounds good!
[18:38] <hatch> rick_h_ have a moment to go through my proposal? https://github.com/hatched/esm-docs/blob/master/esm-outline.md
[18:38] <rick_h_> hatch: looking
[18:38] <hatch> thanks
[18:44] <rick_h_> hatch: not sure how to comment on this so just gonig to edit it and I guess we can diff it?
[18:45] <hatch> oh hmm
[18:45] <hatch> ohh
[18:45] <rick_h_> hatch: not sure this is the best format for these things since you can't add comments/questions in line and such like a code review or doc
[18:45] <hatch> rick_h_ I'll create a PR on the juju-gui project?
[18:45] <hatch> I tried google docs but it doesn't do code formatting
[18:46] <hatch> ok give me one min I'll create a new branch of the gui and add it to the docs
[18:46] <rick_h_> hatch: I'll see how the editing goes. We'll figure something out
[18:47] <hatch> ok so no pr?
[18:47] <rick_h_> hatch: ideally we'd hangout and chat over it lol
[18:47] <rick_h_> hatch: no, I don't think so
[18:47] <hatch> lol
[18:47] <hatch> ok np
[18:47] <hatch> I could install Skype? lol
[18:47] <rick_h_> I'm not willing to go that far lol
[18:48] <hatch> hahaha
[18:56] <rick_h_> hatch: crappy edit/update. Let me know what you think though.
[18:56] <rick_h_> hatch: overall very nice but couple of questions and different opinions
[18:56] <rick_h_> https://github.com/hatched/esm-docs/pull/1
[18:56] <hatch> cool thanks will look
[18:58] <hatch> hmm
[18:59] <hatch> rick_h_ so personally I much prefer real function calls to doSomeCommand('commandName') type of syntax because it's far easier to grep and parse through without executing (we use this structure in the app in a couple places and I've had to run the app to get the possible `commandName` values to figure out how the code flows)
[18:59] <rick_h_> hatch: oh, I've got hangouts if you want to try
[18:59] <hatch> oh cool sure
[19:00] <hatch> (sure, after I typed all that out) lol
[19:00] <rick_h_> bwuhahaha https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpir00hj4j06la9mff158qnk?hl=en
[19:44] <Makyo> jujugui looking for two reviews (for my sanity's sake) and a QA of https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/181 hatch can you be at least one of the reviewers?
[19:46] <rick_h_> Makyo: looking
[19:47] <rick_h_> Makyo: lint errors for CI 
[19:47] <Makyo> Oh for pete's sake.
[19:47] <Makyo> On it.
[19:48] <hatch> Makyo on it
[19:48] <Makyo> I was just TOO EXCITED
[19:48] <hatch> lol
[19:48] <rick_h_> Makyo: lol
[19:48] <rick_h_> hatch: will you do QA?
[19:48] <hatch> I can
[19:49] <rick_h_> hatch: ty sir :)
[19:49] <hatch> Makyo what do you think of the inspector setup now that you have had a chance to use it?
[19:50] <Makyo> hatch, after going down a very, very wrong path, I like it.  I got super frustrated with it, until I found my mistake.  I really like it, so much simpler
[19:51] <hatch> :) what was the mistake? something I could have avoided?
[19:51] <rick_h_> Makyo: what was the mistake? Something we should catch/error/hint?
[19:51] <rick_h_> heh
[19:51] <hatch> haha
[19:52] <Makyo> Just kind of a listening problem on my end.  When you were talking about adding the RequestSeriesView to the LocalNewUpgradeView, I thought misunderstood, when you meant just add it to the views attribute.
[19:53] <Makyo> 'thought' is an extra word, ignore it.  Ostracize it.
[19:55] <rick_h_> ok, so one time learning thing then. 
[19:55] <rick_h_> nothing to really catch/update 
[19:55] <rick_h_> it sounds like?
[19:56] <Makyo> It'd be nice to have some more documentation around that (and the potential problem of object values ordering) and how we support multiple views in there.
[19:56] <Makyo> But I think that's an existing comment.
[19:56] <rick_h_> Makyo: ok cool
[19:59] <hatch> lnui
[19:59] <hatch> lol
[20:00] <hatch> I love it
[20:00] <rick_h_> you guys hate me ;P
[20:00] <hatch> sounds like a name from a JRPG
[20:00] <hatch> hahaha
[20:00] <Makyo> Hey, it was the logical next step from (the appropriately named) rsi
[20:00] <hatch> hahahaha
[20:00] <hatch> so much awsesome
[20:00] <rick_h_> I keep reading that one was repetive stress injury
[20:01] <rick_h_> I had to swallow so hard to :+1: that one
[20:01] <Makyo> Hahaha
[20:03] <hatch> hahaha
[20:10] <Makyo> rick_h_, hatch with two +1s, can I land as is and do a follow-on for the missing view tests?
[20:10] <hatch> Makyo sure - but you should probably fix that one which was a copy/paste fail
[20:10] <hatch> :)
[20:10] <hatch> I mean, it doesn't do any harm if you're going to do the follow-up right away I suppose
[20:10] <Makyo> hatch, done, just about to push.
[20:10] <rick_h_> Makyo: I'm kind of either way on it. I guess it's ok, but seems the missing tests are small now that you don't need the whole view tests I thought might be missing
[20:11] <Makyo> rick_h_, sure, if you think those can wait for their own follow on, I can get just the test you mentioned in.
[20:11] <rick_h_> Makyo: well, the one I mentioned hatch says exists elsewhere
[20:11] <rick_h_> Makyo: so the only ones missing are the ones hatch mentioned
[20:12] <rick_h_> maybe /me is confused now. 
[20:13] <Makyo> I don't think it does.  I read hatch 's comment as "this isn't the job of this suite", but as far as I can tell, no such other suite exists.
[20:14] <rick_h_> Makyo: ah ok. In that case then +1 on follow up
[20:14] <rick_h_> Makyo: but -1 on skipping the render tests he references in his comment
[20:14] <rick_h_> that's specific for this branch
[20:14] <Makyo> Oh, yeah, those are what I'm getting ready to push.
[20:14] <rick_h_> ok, ignore me than. Plan sounds good :)
[20:15] <hatch> rick_h_ Makyo  it's the inspectors job to render it's views....it's not supposed to determine what views to show. That's done externally by telling another inspector subclass to render instead of this one
[20:15] <rick_h_> hatch: rgr
[20:15] <hatch> and no I'm not going to add that functionality into viewlet manager :P
[20:15] <hatch> haha
[20:15]  * hatch puts feets down
[20:16]  * rick_h_ gets hatch a soapbox
[20:16] <hatch> lol
[20:16]  * hatch writes sublime plugin which bans him from opening viewletmanager.js
[20:16] <Makyo> Yeah, not going to worry about that.  Just need to write the equivalent of test/test_request_series_view.js for local_new_upgrade
[20:16] <rick_h_> BradCrittenden: you working on the remove_bundle feature with your head on it?
[20:16] <BradCrittenden> rick_h_: yes, i am using my head
[20:16] <hatch> sorry about that I'm not sure how that got missed
[20:17] <Makyo> No biggie, just deciding on what's next.  Shouldn't take long.
[20:17] <rick_h_> bac: :) sorry just moving my card in and making sure I'm not stomping on WIP limits
[20:17] <bac> rick_h_: sorry i forgot to move it
[20:17] <rick_h_> bac: all good thanks
[20:17] <rick_h_> bac: did you get my PM re moving 1-1?
[20:17] <bac> y
[20:17] <bac> wait, no
[20:17] <rick_h_> bac: k, let me know which works best for you
[20:17] <bac> 9 am is good
[20:18]  * hatch is going to add another file into assets/ don't tell benji
[20:18] <rick_h_> k, thanks bac 
[20:18]  * bac tattles to benji.
[20:26]  * rick_h_ runs away for the day. where did the last 2hrs go?!
[20:56] <hatch> intersting, bundles are now featured
[21:59] <hatch> wow, I can't believe this works
[22:00]  * hatch does a happy dance
[22:03] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:03] <hatch> holy sh*t
[22:03]  * hatch taps on monitor
[22:03] <hatch> (is this thing working)
[22:04] <hatch> :P morning huwshimi 
[22:04] <huwshimi> hatch: Hey!
[22:04] <hatch> hows de bebe!
[22:04] <hatch> and congrats :)
[22:04] <huwshimi> hatch: Good thanks.
[22:05] <hatch> lots has changed since you left :)
[22:05] <huwshimi> hatch: Thankyou!
[22:05] <huwshimi> hatch: Oh really!
[22:05] <huwshimi> hatch: What's been happening?
[22:06] <hatch> gary is gone, rick_h_  is now the all mighty overlord 
[22:06] <hatch> machine view is almost ready to be implemented
[22:10] <hatch> rick_h_ if you get a chance tonight let me know what you think of this first pass https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/182
[22:11] <huwshimi> Great, a crash already
[22:11] <hatch> jujugui anyone interested in the queue for the deployer bar implementation feel free to check out that wip ^
[22:11] <hatch> huwshimi lol
[22:12] <huwshimi> OK, only 477 emails to read...
[22:13] <hatch> haha nice
[22:13] <huwshimi> hatch: And those are the ones that weren't auto archived...
[22:13] <rick_h_> huwshimi: hey, I'll check in with you after the boy goes to bed in 2ish hrs?
[22:13] <rick_h_> huwshimi: sound good?
[22:14] <rick_h_> hatch: will do
[22:14] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Sure!
[22:14] <rick_h_> off to dinner for now, biab
[23:57] <huwshimi> hatch: Did you break the tabs again?
[23:57] <hatch> huwshimi haha, I'm not sure when that happened but I'm pretty confident I didn't do it this time :P
[23:58] <hatch> sounds like a good task for you on your first day back lol
[23:58] <huwshimi> hatch: Brilliant... thanks!
[23:59] <huwshimi> hatch: Oh, they don't even animate anymore (just looking at Rick's commit)!