[00:37] Riddell, ovidiu-florin migrating would be ideal [00:38] but I don't think really need it as long as the old articles are archived somewhere [01:37] :) [06:53] can someone please check this little bug for me? add the weather thing to systray (right click, system tray settings, Weather forecast). then apply, and right click the weather thing, run the associated application. what happens? [08:55] jussi, I get "Malformed URL" [08:55] I wonder if the company changed their api slightly or something [08:55] anyway, nighers [08:55] valorie: as do I, thanks for confirming. Ill try report later tonight after work [08:55] nighters [08:55] I just noticed it wasn't working after today's updates, but I've hardly been at the keyboard today [08:56] thanks for your attention to it! [08:56] valorie: hrm, mine just started working [08:56] perhaps their page was down [08:57] not here.... [08:57] I'll try in the morning === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [09:37] Good morning. [09:57] morning [10:01] Hey shadeslayer_, how are you doing? [10:17] hola chicos [10:17] good good [10:18] afiestas just made me feel at home by pouring water on me xD [10:18] * apachelogger hates writing complicated emails [10:18] shadeslayer_: are you a fish? [10:19] Riddell: hello senior [10:19] apachelogger: yes, you've found my secret [10:32] new quassel seems to do the job [10:35] jussi: address form on that holvi shop is missing some fields for people with long addresses [10:35] Riddell: oh? [10:36] offers "Company" where I wanted "Company, Room, Hacker Community, Building" [10:37] Riddell: can you not just write all that into the one field? [10:37] Riddell: Im experimenting with a new shop in anycase, I just need to figure out the payment system stuff [10:38] I like holvi because it has open budgets and so on. but, its not actually the cheapest in the world [10:40] jussi: yeah it's fine, that's the only small problem with it [10:40] jussi: want an article on kubuntu.org ? [10:40] Riddell: please [10:40] Riddell: they have been going only slowly so far [10:41] Riddell: emphasise the ladies versions being available [10:41] shoot [10:41] jussi: should have asked you to ship a couple of them over for the debian mini conf [10:41] *debian womens mini conf [10:41] shadeslayer_: when is it? [10:42] it was this weekend [10:42] oh :/ [10:42] already overy [10:42] *over [10:42] yeah [10:42] bad typo... [10:42] :Å [10:42] completely slipped my mind [10:42] :P [10:42] yeah :P [10:44] shadeslayer_: how did it go? [10:44] any gossip? [11:25] sometimes I really think we should only do LTS releases [11:25] it would be easier but it would also kill much of the community aspect I'm pretty sure, people need a nice endpoint to see they've achieved something [11:26] and every two years isn't enough for that [11:29] Riddell: well, I meant with more focus on delivering newer KDEs [11:30] damn, circular dependency [11:30] i.e. retain a stable core but move the user space forward [11:30] kdepim-runtime builds on nepomuk-core-runtime which depends on baloo which depends on kdepim-runtime [11:30] lovely [11:32] ::workspace-bugs:: [1253528] Desktop slideshow settings are forgotten (Desktop Settings, Slideshow) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1253528 (by Alex Onic) [11:32] ::workspace-bugs:: [1257746] /usr/bin/ksplashqml:11:QObject::setProperty:_start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257746 (by errors.ubuntu.com bug bridge) [11:37] Riddell: something wrong? [11:37] ohohoh, shadeslayer_ where are we on the qt sru? [11:41] vHanda: I'm just not sure how to split up the packaging [11:41] vHanda: although in testing baloo file search in dolphin I'm not convinced it worked, results seem pretty random [11:42] Riddell: bug 1216743 -> not fixed? -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kte-collaborative [11:42] bug 1216743 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] kte-collaborative" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216743 [11:43] vHanda: like this seems wrong http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/baloo.png [11:44] apachelogger: doesn't seem to be any sort of package for it [11:45] 'Morning folks [11:45] Riddell: good morning, is there anything I can work on [11:46] Riddell: what do you mean? [11:46] * apachelogger wonders why whoopsie-upload-all still explodes Oo [11:47] Riddell: shouldn't http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107705/ prevent http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107706/ [11:48] apachelogger: yep, doesn't it? [11:49] apachelogger: I see no ktp-collaborative in the archive, although I don't know what it is maybe it's part of the normal ktp release [11:49] https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/4d758810-ad71-11e3-921d-e4115b0f8a4a [11:49] Riddell: kte is ktexteditor, I am not sure that is directly tied to ktp [11:50] apachelogger: oh and I set it to fix released when it's not [11:50] that's what it looks like anyway :P [11:51] "Rejected by Jonathan Riddell: incorrect copyright" [11:51] bloody archive admins [11:51] sgclark: fancy fixing up kte-collaborative? [11:52] Riddell: sure thing, where is it? [11:52] sgclark: dget http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kte-collaborative_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [11:52] Riddell: lol [11:52] so, a pattern with the permissionerror seems to be that the installations are very new [11:52] sgclark: bug 1216743 [11:52] bug 1216743 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] kte-collaborative" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216743 [11:52] which is sort of a given for 14.04, but most of the errors come from installations that are 0days old [11:53] which is a bit suspicious with it being python, but since the script is only run when there is a crash file it probably can't be a caching issue [11:54] to be honest though I'd really like to know why there is a permission error to begin with [11:54] oh perhaps the script is run too soon [11:54] so I guess the error sort of makes sense [11:54] why it is not caught is a different story though [12:02] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107758/ I cannot reproduce it :'< [12:03] ohohohohoh [12:03] AH [12:03] Riddell: nevermind [12:03] it's a completely different line that is indeed not protected \o/ [12:03] apachelogger: ohohoh? [12:04] it opens the file twice, once 'rb' which we catch, and then 'ab' to update the apport data [12:04] latter is not exception handled in any way [12:04] * apachelogger hates exceptions very much [12:06] ::runtime-bugs:: [1292471] Missing locale notification does not inform about package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1292471 (by Marcin Sągol) [12:11] Hello guys, I was directed here by lordievader, and I wish to contribute to kubuntu. Can someone please get me up to speed as to how can I do it? hot [12:12] Ignore hot, mistake. [12:24] Riddell, shadeslayer_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107847/ I'd like a review for this please [12:27] OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device [12:27] https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/d489b8b510e66da626cc598f9d11f52c628b9d16 [12:27] oh my [12:30] Riddell: only copyright issues that I can find, that sound right? [12:32] shadeslayer_: Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107878/ one more fix [12:33] sgclark: yeah I think so [12:34] who do I fire qt accessiblity bugs to ? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332166 [12:34] KDE bug 332166 in general "Krita crashes on export" [Crash,Resolved: downstream] [12:34] Riddell: in that case it is ready, where would you like me to put it? [12:38] sgclark: anywhere I can get it to upload [12:41] Riddell: in my ubuntu one === Shaarad is now known as tigerden [12:58] Riddell: Could you ping me when the packages are ready? [13:01] tester56: will ping everyone :) [13:02] Uploading libkubuntu_14.04ubuntu4_source.changes: done. [13:02] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:03] ^ fixes crash when apt config | cache is broken [13:05] vHanda: does kdepim-runtime still need to build with nepomuk if we're using baloo? [13:06] Riddell: how do you ping all members of the chat? :-) [13:17] sgclark: if you want a challenge you could package QxOrm [13:18] tester56: we have means, but don't tell the spammers/trolls! [13:18] sgclark: bug 1291478 [13:18] bug 1291478 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] qxorm" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291478 [13:21] apachelogger: there's no testing of nepomuk/baloo in your google docs, can I add one? [13:21] Riddell: on it [13:22] sgclark: it uses qmake is a notoriously rubbish build system [13:22] sgclark: as commented in the bug you'll need to patch it for the build with boost and you can look at the suse package to see what else it needs [13:23] Riddell: ok [13:27] Riddell: please add to the workspace case [13:27] that's waiting for expansion anyway === soee_ is now known as soee [13:29] vHanda: ah kdepimlibs no longer wants nepomuk, that helps things, fixing the packaging for that [13:40] apachelogger: what do you think of the Test Desktop Search question in https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aCEQ1LhCcytb9Fyq2ZIFgQyr41YXXO3H4IjJIwTl6jM/edit# ? [13:42] Riddell: those should be individual test cases [13:42] apachelogger: doesn't that get very long winded? [13:42] Riddell: for you, not for the user [13:42] Riddell: "File search in Dolphin works" [13:43] I am not even entirely sure how to do that [13:43] the more guidance a test case provides, the easier it is to execute, it doesn't need a novel written about it, but concise steps on how to do the test [13:47] shadeslayer_: what's the status of that qt sru? anything I need to do? [13:51] * apachelogger is done with catching up on mail \o/ [13:51] that took forever [13:51] Riddell: did you see my highlight about code review [13:52] apachelogger: nope, what's it say? [13:52] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107878/ [13:53] review because I am bad with the python [13:57] apachelogger: yes looks good, what was wrong with your original PermissionError fix? [13:57] Riddell: it only covered one open() call [13:57] there's two [13:58] Uploading kubuntu-notification-helper_14.04ubuntu8_source.changes: done. [13:58] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:58] thx 4 revu [13:58] in here? r.add_os_info [13:59] apachelogger: I'm alergic to single character variable names [13:59] Riddell: tell pitti [13:59] I'd also like to point out that shitty code is the way of the python :P [14:00] pitti will give me anaphylactic shock [14:01] so, that solves the top crasher of the last month [14:01] second is qdeclarative [14:01] shadeslayer_!!!! [14:01] we needs a fix [14:01] kded4 uses ~1gb ram is it normal ? [14:01] soee: no [14:02] let me think about how to debug that [14:06] ah well, can't at runtime [14:06] soee: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/ [14:07] soee: essentially what you want to do is deactivate modules until it stops leaking [14:07] after deactivating you'll need to restart kded4 I think [14:07] it's a pain to debug really [14:09] ah, ok i think this might be somehow related to system suspend, several time when i closed laptop and opened it again system was freezed and i had only like noise on white backgound [14:10] when im working without closing laptop i have no such issues [14:11] yeah, kded modules have a history of leaking memory on suspend [14:11] they still shouldn't do it [14:11] soee: I guess the first step is finding out what exactly causes the leak [14:11] maybe suspend and resume a couple of times [14:11] see if kded usage rises across resumes [14:12] apachelogger: how's this now? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aCEQ1LhCcytb9Fyq2ZIFgQyr41YXXO3H4IjJIwTl6jM/edit# [14:14] Riddell: better, please try to formulate them such that one can answer works/doesntwork though (it makes things easier when parsing the submissions [14:14] other than that perfect IMO [14:14] shadeslayer_: ^ you might want to have a look [14:14] * apachelogger pointes out that shadeslayer_ is very much better than apachelogger at writing the test cases [14:15] apachelogger: done [14:16] good to go then IMO [14:16] * apachelogger wipes responses for 4.13 [14:17] oh, kte ftbfs [14:17] much confusing [14:17] also launchpad doesn't like me [14:17] * apachelogger sighs [14:18] apachelogger: kte-collaborative I'm hoping is just some confusion in the PPA [14:18] alrighty [14:18] * apachelogger needs to do a muon QA day === jono is now known as Guest78266 [14:25] Riddell: are you on beta2? [14:30] apachelogger: I am having issues with kded crashing etc. after suspend sometimes too ... what about the future of kded in frameworks? [14:31] apachelogger: I'm trying to fix it yes [14:34] tester56: last I checked it is going to remain as it were [14:34] tester56: though given wider adoption of systemd I'd not exclude the option that it will be shot at some point and replaced by standalone processes [14:35] which would certainly be a good thing [14:35] Riddell: moving the card then :P [14:36] apachelogger: haven't they already decided to use systemd for the startup of plasma? [14:36] apachelogger: thanks [14:36] apachelogger: wouldn't this include to replace kded? [14:38] tester56: nope, that's ksmserver [14:39] also currently neither of the two is replaced by systemd, so it's all in the future [14:40] also FWIW kded isn't just using plugins for convenience but also performance reasons, so there's arguments to be made for splitting things up and also for keeping things together [15:01] shadeslayer_: uploaded kubuntu-settings with a renamed kickoff upgrade script and your fix [15:14] *BLINK* [15:14] why does baloo suddenly have new symbols @_@ [15:14] like? [15:15] it always did in beta 2 I think [15:15] vHanda: nothing to do with you [15:15] It's just that suddenly our build shows [15:15] E: libbaloopim4: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN5Baloo3PIM10EmailQuery13setSearchTypeENS1_6OpTypeE@Base and 2 others [15:15] which it didn't yesterday [15:16] Riddell: uhm, what *exactly* did you upload? Because I fixed exactly this ^ in r10 on friday [15:17] shadeslayer_: qt sruuuuuuu [15:18] yofel: oh sorry that probably just what was on my local hard disk [15:19] protip: commit, push, then create the package from that. Then this never happens ^^ [15:19] yofel: I know I know [15:19] yofel: merging and uploading [15:19] thanks :) [15:23] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7108674/ [15:27] sgclark: um, lintian is right there, whatever are those files? [15:28] Riddell: .inl files, whatever that is [15:29] Riddell: nevermind, looks like suse moved into include [15:29] will do the same [15:29] yeah [15:36] vHanda: review for you https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116859/ [15:37] Riddell: you're awesome! :D [15:39] not going to bother with baloo, since I don't really need it, being a home user and all [15:44] vHanda: you might want to double check I committed that right, I'm yet to get to the cherry-pick section of this Git book :) [16:06] I guess even if this got fixored, it wouldnt make it into 14.04... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312828 [16:06] KDE bug 312828 in locker-qml "simple locker should allow for custom background" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [16:06] shadeslayer_: theres one easy bug for you to fixor :) [16:07] well, it'll make it if it makes it into 4.13 [16:08] yofel: are you volunteering? [16:08] :D [16:08] uh. no. sorry. I kinda got used to blue :P [16:08] hehe [16:08] no probs, Ill just voluntell shadeslayer_ :D [16:08] yofel: if i compile base apps and i launch them without install for example dolphin i have a strange behavior for example dolphin doesn't show the konsole part [16:09] someone can explain why ? [16:09] i mean [16:09] cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/usr/local .. ; make -j9 [16:09] then i go on build dolphin src and i launch it with ./dolphin [16:10] not suuuure... Could be that it can't load the system parts if the prefix doesn't match, I'm not familiar with the kpart loading code [16:11] yofel: mm because i am trying to improve dolphin here with something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHatr2_xHQ [16:11] yofel: but like you can see it doesn't work properly :D [16:11] but the fact that konsole part doesn't work suggest me that it could not be my fault [16:13] one of the coders here will have to help you, or #kde-devel. Worst case you could use kdesrc-build to build the rest of kde locally as well, not just baseapps [16:14] yofel: thank you [16:15] yofel: mah the problem is that using apt-get source dolphin well i cna't compile it :D [16:15] *SIGH* [16:15] I need to wipe my kde config I think. My keyboard focus going wild on every notification is seriously annoying [16:16] there is some problem with some kubuntu's patch [16:16] you can always disable the patch in debian/patches/series [16:17] yofel: ah good :D [16:21] i was trying to do a usb bootable disk on kubuntu 14.04 [16:21] i got this [16:21] org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.gi._glib.GError: Traceback (most recent call last): [16:21] File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/service.py", line 707, in _message_cb [16:22] retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords) [16:22] File "/usr/share/usb-creator/usb-creator-helper", line 235, in Format [16:22] block.call_format_sync('vfat', GLib.Variant('a{sv}', {'label': GLib.Variant('s', '')}), None) [16:22] gi._glib.GError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object [16:22] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/17/plasma-desktopM15357.png [16:55] Riddell: so b2 ready ? [16:56] soee_: mm yes should be [16:59] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-scripts_4%3a4.12.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): [16:59] trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/svn-clean', which is also in package subversion-tools 1.8.8-1ubuntu3 [16:59] hmm? [16:59] hmm [16:59] (trusty) [16:59] kfunk: no PPAs? [17:02] you [17:02] you're asking me odd things! :) [17:03] Riddell: it should work now, shouldn't it? [17:04] my google skills tell me that http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/subversion-tools/filelist and http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/kdesdk-scripts/filelist indeed both have svn-clean in there [17:04] in saucy, that was named svn-clean-kde [17:05] but oh well, I installed subversion-tools for now [17:08] Riddell: upgrade fine [17:38] ::workspace-bugs:: [1283820] content of windows (and desktop) appear black when using kwin, but not with kwin_gles - in... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1283820 (by avlas) [17:38] Riddell: the tags seems to work on b2, Dolphin <-> Gwenview [18:00] Riddell: having issues with quilt http://paste.ubuntu.com/7109501/ [18:10] Riddell: I still get baloo : Breaks: kde-runtime (< 4:4.12.80) but 4:4.12.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed [18:18] Riddell: I have upgraded kde-runtime to 4.12.90 now, but when I want to install baloo it wants to remove akregator, amarok, calligra, muon and many other packages that depend on kde-runtime [18:18] Riddell: it also wants to remove kde-runtime [18:19] same here, checking [18:22] strabge for me upgrade went fine b1->b2 [18:23] *strange [18:23] here it's 4.12.3 -> 4.12.90, haven't tried my other notebook that's on .80 [18:23] indeed :) I can't get it to upgrade from 4.12 here [18:24] yesterday a screwed a whole install and could not get it to work ... [18:24] i tired to manually hunt down things because i thought i had broken my own system :-) [18:25] i think it all comes down to baloo not being installable ... [18:26] it's something between kde-runtime and baloo [18:26] agree [18:26] Here the upgrade b1 -> b2 seemed to work fine too. Haven't had time to actually boot it yet. [18:39] kde-runtime : Depends: libgcrypt20 (>= 1.6.1) which is a virtual package. [18:39] huh... [18:39] I confirm this [18:40] yofel strange thing is: using muon, i could upgrade kde-runtime [18:42] hm, could be that you actually had that package [18:42] libgcrypt20: [18:42] Deleted on 2014-03-15 by Adam Conrad [18:42] We don't want this transition in trusty [18:42] ah well, guess I'll rebuild kde-runtime [18:43] yofel: I could not install it using "apt-get install kde-runtime" however [18:43] yofel: so I am curious how muon did it :D [18:43] uh, check the logs? ^^ [18:43] no idea otherwise [18:43] maybe it ignored dependencies without throwing out warning? [18:44] thats why i hate graphical package managment [18:44] hardly, dpkg would fail to configure at least [18:44] rebuild up, should work soon [18:54] yofel: why doesn't is show anything here: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.90_trusty.html ? [18:54] that only shows up PUBLISHED sources, which... can take a while [18:55] s/up// [18:55] yofel meant: "that only shows PUBLISHED sources, which... can take a while" [18:56] yofel: but normally the build process can be tracked ... [18:56] * yofel wonders whether showing pending sources makes sense [18:56] ah okay [18:56] kdeuser56: well, for private PPA's like ninjas, the builds never start before packages are published [18:56] so you don't actually loose anything [18:57] the delay is just much longer compared to regular PPAs [19:24] yofel: Dependency wait: libgcrypt20-dev [19:24] awesome http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fr/2014/03/monday-report-7-beach-edition.html [19:24] saw it, try #3 up [20:00] yofel: still no success :-( [20:00] kde-runtime is at ppa3? [20:00] wait, i am updating the sources once again ... [20:01] the binaries might not be published yet.. [20:02] yofel: ah wait, no, sorry, thought they should be as the uploading process was finished ... [20:02] does it wait for the i386 package? [20:04] no, but the publishing process goes like this: [20:04] source upload -> source PENDING -> source PUBLISHED -> binaries building -> binaries uploading -> binaries PENDING -> binaries PUBLISHED [20:04] so it's stuck between the last 2 steps [20:14] yofel: no good new, I guess :-( [20:14] *new [20:14] **news [20:16] *sigh* [20:17] ok, let's see [20:17] ah damn [20:17] kde-runtime-data is arch:all, so we'll have to wait on i386 [20:18] seems to be about half done [20:25] guys [20:26] i have installed again kubuntu 14.04 but i have the same problem of before [20:26] i can't see video on dolphin [20:26] with phonon backend vlc and gstreamer [20:30] yofel: damn it failed :-( [20:30] oh come on [20:31] * yofel throws... things at launchpad [20:31] retried [20:31] Peace are you on 4.12? [20:33] mmm i am on 4.12.3 [20:34] just installed fresh kubuntu 12.04 [20:35] Peace, oh then I guess I can't help you [20:35] can you play the video with dragonplayer? [20:35] Peace: remember if you switch the phonon-backend, you have to log out and log back in ... [20:36] Peace, So I would recommend the following: install phonon-vlc, switch backend, logout and log back in and try again [20:37] Peace, is the fastest strategy, as gstreamer has so many codecs ... [20:37] maybe a missing codec is the reason (if you are still on gstreamer) [20:38] kdeuser56: yes [20:38] i can play with dragon [20:38] oh then, i guess its a bug ... [20:38] i guess so [20:38] :D [20:39] Peace, have really logged out and in again? [20:41] kdeuser56: yes [20:41] okay, then I do not have any ideas ... [20:41] simply upgrade to latest available version :D [20:41] i have 14.04 [20:41] so [20:41] :d [20:42] at this point i will try with archlinux [20:42] you just said 12.04? [20:42] kdeuser56: :D typo [20:42] Peace: are you using kde 4.12.3? [20:42] yess [20:42] Peace: strange, it works here [20:43] mm [20:43] what file format is the video? [20:43] mp4 h264 codec [20:43] Peace: would you mind uploading it somewhere, if possible? [20:44] let me try to log in with a new user [20:48] mmm kdeuser56 even with new user i can't see the video [20:48] this is strange [20:48] kdeuser56: you have 14.04 and dolphin works fine ? [20:48] yeah [20:49] wtf so it's a problem of my installation then [20:49] not necessarily [20:50] well it's a fresh installation , and even with a new user it does the same stuff [20:50] sigh [20:51] Peace: try another file format [20:51] kdeuser56: i did [20:51] nothing changed [20:52] try .ogv (ogg) [20:52] Peace: what happens exactly: do the play buttons show up? [20:53] i can hear the sound [20:53] but i can't see the video [20:54] oh I guess thats more complex to solve than no video at all :D [20:55] this problem is strange [21:00] Peace: stick with the stable version if you want to have a stable system :-) [21:01]