[00:34] <daum> hey guys how do i get firefox/chrome to work with kwallet?  it doesn't seem to see it?
[02:03] <mhumm61> I need some help pls...
[02:11] <BaffledNoobie> hello
[02:12] <BaffledNoobie> Hello.  Sorry being clueless, but is this a channel for Ubuntu support questions?
[02:13] <rww> nope, Kubuntu. Ubuntu is over in #ubuntu.
[02:13] <BaffledNoobie> sorry, YESS! Kubuntu even better
[02:13] <BaffledNoobie> Shall I just ask away, or is there a queue of sorts?
[02:15] <BaffledNoobie> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with getting very old video hardware to work.
[02:16] <BaffledNoobie> I just installed Kubuntu 12.04 LTS on a machine that has both an internal Intel i915 video card AND an ancient ATI All-In-Wonder Card.
[02:16] <BaffledNoobie> Each card is attached to a monitor, and they all work under windows XP.  However under Kubuntu, only the intel card and attached monitor is recognized.
[02:17] <BaffledNoobie> In System Settings the other monitor is never recognized.
[02:17] <BaffledNoobie> Does anybody have any suggestions?
[02:21] <rigel__> have you run lspci to see if the kernel recognizes the card?
[02:22] <BaffledNoobie> yes, thanks.  In addition to one line item of an intel card, there are TWO line items of the ATI card.
[02:23] <BaffledNoobie> unfortunately, for the ATI drivers, there is no line that contains : "Kernel driver in use", whereas that exists for the intel line item
[02:24] <BaffledNoobie> here's the output
[02:24] <BaffledNoobie> lspci | grep VGA
[02:24] <BaffledNoobie> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0e)
[02:24] <BaffledNoobie> 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] All-In-Wonder 128 PCI
[02:24] <BaffledNoobie> 01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 3D Rage Pro PCI (rev 5c)
[02:28] <rigel__> I have little experience with dual monitors but have you checked the X log file to see if X is having some sort of problem?
[02:28] <rigel__> Or maybe running X -configure and check whether X detects the card
[02:30] <BaffledNoobie> I did check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  There aren't any errors, but the "second" video card is effectively ignored.  Almost all of the info is for the "intel" card.  I resorted to adding an xorg.conf file
[02:30] <BaffledNoobie> explicitly specifying a driver "vesa" to no avail.
[02:31] <BaffledNoobie> sudo X -configure throws errors: Server is already active for display 0 (note the GUI does work under the intel display)
[02:32] <BaffledNoobie> would you know if there's any way to force the use of a driver?  It feels like the hardware is found, but maybe because the card is old, when the software instructs it to search for a monitor, that fails and so the driver unloads?????
[02:34] <BaffledNoobie> Is it worth posing this question on the main #ubuntu channel?
[02:36] <rigel__> X -configure has to be run when there is no other X server running, which means you'll lose the gui
[02:37] <rigel__> To test a driver, assuming you know which, you can use modprobe <driver_name>; to make it permanente check google
[02:38] <rigel__> It definitetly may help asking in #ubuntu since this is a general issue not specific to kubuntu
[02:38] <BaffledNoobie> ok, I'll give it a go...
[02:38] <rigel__> good luck,
[02:38] <BaffledNoobie> thanks a bunch
[03:06] <traucet> Anyone else having fits with nvidia drivers, wine, and WoW?
[03:09] <traucet> Its a big circle of errors install nvidia-current, install wine. All is good except it wine 4.1 and wont run WoW:MoP.
[03:10] <traucet> Ok, install wine 6 something forgot what and the nvidia-current drivers dont work.
[03:12] <traucet> Ok, install newest nvidia drivers and loose my gui, have to remove --purge nvidia. Grrr..
[03:15] <traucet> Frexh install Kubuntu 13.10 install nlatest nvidia drivers loose gui. This is why linux will be stuck to servers...
[03:32] <traucet> Ok, so been googling for 2 days. Tried every tutorial I could find. Anyone have a definate way to install Nvidia 331.49 drivers on an notebook with a gtx 460m?
[03:32] <traucet> Kununtu 13.10
[03:51] <Kak_tak_to> есть кто?
[03:55] <rww> !ru
[04:38] <valorie> !nvidia | traucet
[04:39] <valorie> sounds like you've already googled extensively, but perhaps there is something there for you
[06:36] <sam_> 1
[07:58] <vicopaser> speak spanish
[07:58] <vicopaser> hola
[07:59] <hateball> !es | vicopaser
[08:15] <jussi> Is there anyway to temporarily suppress all notifications? (If I need to concentrate but dont want to turn off all my IM/IRC etc)
[08:50] <hateball> jussi: you could rightclick the notification plasmoid and untick program notifications
[08:51] <hateball> jussi: tho that would kill everything else too... but less hassle than going through every notification in say Quassel
[08:51] <jussi> hateball: yeah, I found that on google. Thanks anyway :=)
[08:52] <hateball> jussi: oh alright :)
[09:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:14] <Felishia> help
[15:15] <Felishia> HELP!
[15:15] <Felishia> T_T
[15:15]  * Felishia dies
[15:21] <dougl> morning
[15:22]  * Felishia is dead
[15:30] <soee> ho dougl
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hey dougl, soee
[15:50] <dougl> quiet in here today.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> yeah the irish are out parading and drinking
[16:05] <Roey> hi
[16:05] <Roey> why did my sound turn off
[16:05] <Roey> ?
[16:05] <Roey> with alsamixer I see nothing is muted and everything is at 100%
[16:05] <Roey> but when I try ogg123 file.ogg, I get "ERROR: Cannot open device oss.
[16:05] <Roey> "
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Roey, which audio chip?
[16:06] <Roey> BluesKaj:  lshw says 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Roey, what's the chip in the upper left in alsamixer
[16:07] <Roey> 20140317 12:07:37 roey@gear:/$ alsamixer
[16:07] <Roey> cannot open mixer: No such file or director
[16:07] <Roey> that is only working if I am root
[16:07] <Roey> apparently
[16:08] <Roey> how do I fix that? put myself in some audio group?
[16:08] <Roey> BluesKaj:  Realtek ALC888
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Roey, sudo lshw -C sound , check the vendor listing
[16:10] <BluesKaj> think it's intel
[16:11] <Roey> BluesKaj:  http://pastebin.com/evPN3WLW
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Roey, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[16:13] <BluesKaj> you may need to reboot, this happens after upgrades with some intel audio drivers
[16:14] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I don't understand
[16:14] <Roey> it was working
[16:14] <Roey> then it stopped.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> did yop
[16:16] <Roey> BluesKaj:  also, I don't get OpenGL Desktop Effects.  It says it could not enable 8 of them.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> did you do the modprobe to load the driver?
[16:16] <Roey> BluesKaj:  even though direct rendering : Yes on glxinfo
[16:16] <Roey> yes I did
[16:16] <Roey> (of the sound drive, yeah)
[16:17] <BluesKaj> was there any output?
[16:17] <Roey> no
[16:17] <BluesKaj> ok good , that means the driver loaded properly, now try a reboot
[16:18] <Roey> BluesKaj:  but no sound came out now
[16:18] <Roey> so after a reboot how wluld things change?
[16:18] <Roey> I understand though that it may be better to at least see how the sound is upon system start.
[16:18] <Roey> So I'll BRB.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> it will load the driver
[16:18] <Roey> BluesKaj:  then I have question for you about setting up nvidia 334
[16:18] <Roey> on my trust tahr system.
[16:18] <Roey> pl
[16:18] <BluesKaj> it's a known bug Roey
[16:18] <Roey> *ok
[16:18] <Roey> what is?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> the intel audio driver not loading
[16:19] <Roey> aha
[16:19] <Roey> alright, I'll reboot then.
[16:19] <Roey> brb
[16:44] <Roey> hello BluesKaj
[16:44] <Roey> same problem
[16:44] <Roey> even after reboot
[16:48] <BluesKaj> Roey, ok what about your audio setup in system settings>multimedia, what do you have setup as the device preference?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> and make sure you don't have automute enabled in alsamixer
[16:49] <Roey> BluesKaj:  aww heh I disabled automute in rc.local
[16:50] <BluesKaj> still, check alsamixer too\
[16:50] <Roey> Built-In Analog Stereo
[16:50] <Roey> ah ok, I can alsamixer as normal user now
[16:50] <Roey> ok
[16:50] <Roey> BluesKaj, I'm getting sound no
[16:50] <Roey> now
[16:50] <Roey> ogg123 still gives me that error
[16:51] <Roey> but I'm getting sound through Amarok
[16:51] <BluesKaj> then it's a codec problem
[16:53] <BluesKaj> also you might want to try pavucontrol to solidify your input and output settings
[17:00] <BluesKaj> heh, internet glitch, the bell guys were working down the street earlier, probly did a quick switch test
[17:14] <kyfella> anyone around right now?
[17:15] <dougl> kyfella, sure
[17:16] <dougl> wanna chat or learn or both?
[17:16] <kyfella> I am having a severe double, triple or so clicking in Kubuntu that didn't creep up till recent patches to the distro.  I have heard that this is a known bug.  Is that true?
[17:16] <kyfella> we can chat, no problems with that..  hmu
[17:16] <dougl> kyfella, sorry your are on 13.10 right?
[17:17] <kyfella> yep, saucy
[17:17] <kyfella> with a kde-full overlaid
[17:17] <dougl> have not booted into that for weeks... wonder if BluesKaj knows anything about it?
[17:18] <kyfella> it was origionally kubuntu something something back in 12. something, but since did distro upgrade and patches.  it was working just dandy until here recently
[17:18] <kyfella> now its a downright pain the ass.
[17:18] <kyfella> every time I click, it opens several of the same app, I can't drag windows worth a crap without it flickering and maximizing
[17:19] <kyfella> its made the use of the distro rendered about useless
[17:19] <dougl> yeah - I have a lazy finger that right button clicks when I concentrate on reading too much what a pain
[17:19] <kyfella> Ive tried resetting the mouse settings, changing it and changing it back to fake it out
[17:19] <dougl> and you say it was a kde issue?
[17:19] <kyfella> no dice, I even madea mod to one of the files to disable single or doubleclick..  I can't remember the details, but that didn't work either
[17:20] <BluesKaj> kyfella, could be you have old junk files hanging around , do you periodically do autoclean and clean?
[17:20] <kyfella> To be honest doug, I can't remember.  I swear I read that in a forum somewhere, but not entirely sure
[17:20] <kyfella> yep
[17:20] <kyfella> done did that as well Blue
[17:20] <kyfella> I try to keep my work enviroment as clean as I can getit
[17:21] <kyfella> Im a systems admin, so I need my distro at top shape all the time
[17:21] <BluesKaj> ok what about nepomuk and akonadi , do you use them ?
[17:22] <kyfella> define what those 2 app do.  I know I have seen it before
[17:23] <BluesKaj> nepomuk is the index search daemon, akonadi is the server that runs your pim apps like kmail and kontact etc
[17:23] <Roey> hey back
[17:24] <kyfella> gimmie a min guys, have a work cal
[17:36] <kyfella> sorry, back
[17:36] <kyfella> i don't use kmail, but do use thunderbird
[17:36] <kyfella> as far as indexing, I do use locate from the terminal, and think I have also used a search tool or 2 on my distro
[17:37] <kyfella> thought those 2 apps sounded familiar
[17:37] <BluesKaj> kyfella, suppose you already check system monitor or htop for pids using up resources
[17:37] <kyfella> have you been able to look up whether there is a known bug or if I have a messed up file system lol
[17:38] <kyfella> yea, no major overhead unless I fire up my test virtual machines in vbox
[17:38] <BluesKaj> nepomuk indexing can be turned off, but i doubt thatit's the culprit
[17:38] <Roey> BluesKaj:  heya
[17:38] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[17:38] <kyfella> how would that cause double and triple clicking on every app?
[17:39] <Roey> BluesKaj:  would you by any chance have time to help me out with an NVidia opengl thing?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> kyfella, dunno, patience perhaps ?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Roey,is nvidia-334 driver in addtional drivers, I'm on my intel machine atm so i can't see whether it's available
[17:41] <Roey> only nvidia-331 is
[17:42] <Roey> I have some desktop effects like Show Windows
[17:42] <Roey> but not Slide
[17:42] <Roey> for example
[17:42] <BluesKaj> then stick with 331, the 334 might be trouble at this stage
[17:42] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I can show you the text from the KDE error dialog box
[17:42] <Roey> from system settings
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Roey, are you running OpenGL 3.1 and raster ?
[17:43] <Roey> I'm on trusty tahr
[17:44] <BluesKaj> yes so is my nvidia pc, but desktop effects are fine with the above settings. I use the desktop cube animation
[17:45] <kyfella> Ill see what I can do in the line of patience.  I am about out of it.  lol
[17:46] <Roey> ok
[17:47] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I'm uising a geforce 750 ti
[17:47] <BluesKaj> kyfella, check the size of the data in your / partition if you also use a separate /home, the / might be close to full
[17:47] <kyfella> let me run a df -h and feed you back the info
[17:47] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Roey, I have an entry level 8400gs and all effects are fine with it. I don't use a whole lot of effects tho
[17:49] <kyfella> http://paste.kde.org/pkzhebnga
[17:49] <kyfella> check it out
[17:52] <CyberTails> Hello, I'm trying to set up my Capture Device, it detects the audio, but doesn't detect the video, how do I fix this?, here's the lsusb for it: Bus 001 Device 007: ID 05e1:04f3 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd
[17:52] <BluesKaj> kyfella, 88% is a lot of data on /
[17:52] <Roey> BluesKaj:  ok
[17:52] <kyfella> its an encrypted fs.  its actually in /home/
[17:52] <Roey> Effects folr me were fine with previous card
[17:52] <Roey> gtx 260
[17:53] <kyfella> a lot of the data stored there is VM's for my software testing
[17:55] <BluesKaj> yeah kyfella , i noticed that, assume encryption of that much data will take time to retrieve, but I'm not real sure of the artifacts you're seeing
[17:55] <kyfella> to be honest its fast
[17:55] <kyfella> i have a tricore with 8 gb ram
[17:56] <kyfella> the only thing I am experiencing is this irritating double and triple clicking thing
[17:56] <kyfella> oh and I use my system for a lot of video editing, so some of those vid files can be whoppers in size
[17:57] <kyfella> after I am done, I move them off to my sga1 drive
[17:57] <kyfella> sorry sdg drive
[17:58] <BluesKaj> yeah, i have the i3 intel cpu and 8G ram , quite fast, but nowhere near the data you have
[17:58] <BluesKaj> no encryption tho
[17:59] <kyfella> it still pretty darn fast. I even do recordings on here, because I teach adjacent engineers.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> dunno what the problem could be with the double and triple instances of files tho
[18:00] <kyfella> A system I am speccing out has 2 quad hyperthreaded cores, with 32 gb of RAM and a nice video card
[18:00] <kyfella> it will cost me somewhere around 3 G to build it, but it will be perfect for what I do
[18:01] <BluesKaj> kyfella, if you're gonna run linux stay away from the amd/ati cards, they seem to be hit and miss driver-wise lately
[18:02] <BluesKaj> the nvidia TOL cards aren't well supported either
[18:02] <BluesKaj> TOL = top of line
[18:03] <BluesKaj> the $800 nvidia gamer cards
[18:04] <kyfella> yea....  I ain't much on amd or ati.  they suck even for windows
[18:07] <BluesKaj> ok , gonna take a walk to the mailbox ...bb in a few
[19:39] <Jake2> Is there any way to add the "Places" launcher (like is in ubuntu) to the top bar?
[19:49] <j3j5> hello there
[19:50] <j3j5> does anybody know how to change, in Konsole, the time it takes to notify when using 'Monitor for silence' option?
[21:00] <RGee> Does anyone know of a website where anybody can come and teach to crowd?
[21:00] <lordievader> RGee: What do you mean?
[21:01] <RGee> Like a website. Where anybody can come and host some classes, and anybody can come and learn. (Sorry, if this is off-topic)
[21:03] <lordievader> RGee: Hmm, yes it is rather off-topic. Don't know of such a website myself I'm afraid.
[21:55] <drscoops> hello
[21:56] <drscoops> Ok I am new to Kubuntu and not sure were any thing is on here can some one please tell me why I can not get kubuntu to connect to hiden wifi network
[21:56] <kyfella> Anyone know where I am going wrong with this?  Trying to backup my home directory to a T1 external USB Drive that is mounted kyfella@system:~$ sudo dd if=/home/kyfella/ of=/media/kyfella/5D38B6E15F0BE84A/homedrive-backup/homedrive-backup.tar.gz
[22:04] <lordievader> kyfella: dd is a bitcopy tool. You are trying to use it for something that it is not intended for. You probably want to use tar, be sure to read both the manpage of dd and tar.
[22:04]  * lordievader goes to bed.
[22:14] <kyfella> well, can't dd take a directory to an img or iso?
[22:14] <kyfella> i don't care if it ends up iso, img, tar or whatever as long as I can get it backed up to usb
[22:16] <ikonia> dd is block by block it works just fine
[22:16] <kyfella> http://paste.kde.org/p8ca4kqww
[22:17] <kyfella> can someone tell me where I am going wrong with this
[22:17] <kyfella> lol
[22:17] <kyfella> I just switched the output to an iso, but still... lol
[22:17] <ikonia> it's a block by block copy
[22:17] <ikonia> it doesn't work like that
[22:20] <drscoops_> hello
[22:20] <drscoops_> Hello how is every one
[22:22] <kyfella> ok, can you give me a way to structure what I am trying to do
[22:23] <drscoops_> Can any one explain why Kubuntu won't pick up ona hidden network I typed it all in right but it still won't connect
[22:24] <kyfella> on second thought, I will just use tar.  prob be easier.  I am just wanting to get my drive backed up
[22:24] <drscoops> hello
[23:07] <Roey> https://gist.github.com/roeyk/9610181  <-- Hello!  WHy am I getting this issue?  Thanks for your help!