[00:16] <dougbb> Is this the right place to ask about xubuntu 14.04 b1 problems?
[00:16] <k1l_> yep
[00:18] <dougbb> great ... I did a clean install of the beta, and then did all the updates. I am now trying to change the "Time And Data Settings" to use ntp, and the attempt to install it is failing
[00:18] <dougbb> "Could not install package  The necessary applications to install the package could not be found"
[00:20] <dougbb> obviously that's a bug, just wondering where the best place to report it would be .... regular launchpad?
[00:23] <dougbb> I also have a question about xfdesktop --reload
[00:23] <dougbb> ... it no longer causes the desktop background to cycle
[00:23] <Beryl> ok so I've tried firefox 24/27/28/29/30, 5 versions, none are working on 14.04, but they were before i updated... all give (process:10585): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:24] <Beryl> I'm using firefox in wine because it won't run on linux :-/
[00:24] <k1l_> Beryl: o_O? firefox runs fine here. try a clean firefox setup without your addons
[00:24] <dougbb> Beryl: I'm using firefox on 14.04 b1 without any problems, did you trying moving aside your ~/.mozilla directory
[00:24] <Beryl> dougbb: yes
[00:25] <Beryl> k1l_: i have for all of them
[00:25] <dougbb> Beryl: did you do a clean install of 14.04 (i.e., formatting the system partitions)?
[00:26] <Beryl> dougbb: it's hash perfect
[00:26] <dougbb> I don't understand what you mean by that
[00:26] <dougbb> did you format the system partitions when you installed?
[00:27] <Beryl> yes, and not a single bit is wrong
[00:28] <Beryl> I've been using 14.04 for a while and after a series of updates, even fresh firefox, ANY version will not run
[00:28] <Beryl> all segfault
[00:28] <Beryl> It's funny how wine's development branch is a more stable API
[00:30] <dougbb> Beryl, do any other mozilla-based apps work? Like thunderbird or filezilla?
[00:30] <k1l_> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833117
[00:30] <Beryl> haven't tried
[00:32] <k1l_> "To be able to run it, I have to enter `firefox -safe-mode' and reset it."
[00:32] <Beryl> tried that
[00:32] <Beryl> i'm going to rolling back it's deps
[00:32] <k1l_> for more workarounds or info see and contribute to that bug
[00:33] <Beryl> I have a feling all 5 versions of firefos have not broke themselves at the same time
[00:33] <k1l_> wait what?
[00:33] <Beryl> I've tried 24/27/28/29/30, none work
[00:33] <k1l_> all 5 version? so you are mixing things anyway? ff works here btw
[00:33] <Beryl> It's gotta be a broken dep
[00:34] <Beryl> it's like back when trying to empty the trash in every gtk de causes the desktop crask
[00:34] <Beryl> none of the des were broken, a lib was that was patched to be bad
[00:34] <k1l_> ok, so please try a clean 14.04 and a official ubuntu package from the repos. then please report a bug or confirm the bug existing and contribute there
[00:36] <Beryl> flipping back to pure vanilla now
[00:36] <Beryl> lol wow firefox gpu acceleration works in wine
[00:38] <Beryl> ok back to standard 14.04 28.0+build1-0ubuntu1
[00:41] <Beryl> -safe-mode doesn't change anything, crashes instantly on startup, sometimes mozilla crash reporter comes up, sometimes it does not
[00:43] <Beryl> If the exact same firefox version/build can run on 13.10 but not 14.04, and 14.04 uses newer deps... gotts be bad deps
[00:53] <Beryl> installed thunderbird... does not work either
[00:53] <Beryl> filezilla does though
[00:54] <Beryl> aaaaand i try launching thunderbird and this time it starts
[00:54] <dougbb> Beryl: thunderbird comes installed by default, why did you have to install it?
[00:54] <Beryl> and again, it fails
[00:54] <Beryl> dougbb: installed minimal
[00:55] <dougbb> so .... does that perhaps suggest a course of action to you?
[00:55] <dougbb> :)
[00:55] <Beryl> thunderbird starts every second time, strange
[00:56] <Beryl> i coudl throw on the ubuntu desktop meta package but it's not going to change firefox or it's deps...
[00:56] <Beryl> unless canonical has royally fucked with cross deps
[00:59] <dougbb> I'm suggesting that you do a stock install, not "minimal" and see if that helps
[01:00] <dougbb> of course if it does, you're right that there is a dep problem
[01:00] <dougbb> but I imagine that those of us who are reporting that it works fine did not do a minimal install (I certainly did not)
[02:54] <Beryl> oh my god praise mint, their firefox deb works
[07:52] <Data_Crusad3r> hello everyone :)
[07:52] <Data_Crusad3r> I have a question, can someone help me?
[07:53] <Data_Crusad3r> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 iso last night and i want to install it on my laptop but i dont have a CD
[07:53] <Data_Crusad3r> is there anyway to do that without using a cd?
[07:58] <elfy> I've not used CD nor USB for a long time - use a USB
[07:58] <elfy> I use unetbootin
[07:58] <elfy> bah read I've not used CD nor USB  as I've not used CD nor DVD
[08:00] <Data_Crusad3r> elfy, what do i select? daily build, or daily build_64x ?
[08:01] <elfy> I don't know what you need ;)
[08:01] <elfy> if you want 64bit then the 64x one
[08:02] <Data_Crusad3r> elfy, alright buddy, thanks :)
[08:02] <elfy> welcome :)
[08:04] <elfy> Data_Crusad3r: if you downloaded yesterday - you can point unetbootin at that rather than get it again
[08:05] <Data_Crusad3r> yeah i know but how can i acess the file via unetboot?
[08:05] <Data_Crusad3r> its in download files
[08:06] <elfy> Data_Crusad3r: at the bottom of unetbootin - diskimage - naviagte to the location
[08:07] <Data_Crusad3r> in the location, it's only showing me my computer
[08:08] <Data_Crusad3r> can I drag and drop?
[08:11] <elfy> navigate from File System to /home/user/Downloads
[08:23] <elfy> Data_Crusad3r: sorted?
[09:32] <Gamoder> Hi everyone, I got two problems (XFCE, 64 bit, 14.04): At first, the notification bar crashes all the time. And secondly, nm-applet does not show.
[09:32] <Gamoder> (Additionally, eclipse just crashed, but that might be unrelated)
[09:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:49] <SuperLag> Any of you guys encounter an issue where you cannot lock the desktop session?
[10:50] <SuperLag> My screen will just flicker/flash, like it was *attempting* to lock, but then go right back to what I was doing before that attempt.
[11:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:38] <budo_> i cant install this plugin
[14:38] <budo_> https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin/download.html?platform=linux_ubuntu_i386
[14:38] <budo_> what is wrong
[14:52] <ikonia> budo_: what is the error you get
[14:53] <budo_> ok. anyone that have the same problem as me.
[14:54] <budo_> tell them to go to this  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-google-talk-ubuntu-official-repository/
[14:54] <budo_> and it might work. it worked for me
[15:33] <SuperLag> I reinstalled.
[15:34] <SuperLag> So when I mounted old ~, the problems returned.
[15:34] <SuperLag> It's specific to my profile, but I don't know where to start, to fix the issue.
[15:35] <SuperLag> I'm currently reverted, to the new profile... but I'd like to have access to the data in my old profile. I guess I could bindmount stuff like ~/{Code,Documents,Downloads,Music,Pictures,Videos}
[15:42] <SuperLag> I don't have enough root on the drive where ~ is, currently, to copy stuff over. It's only a 250GB drive. Where all the ~ stuff is stored for the original, it's a 2TB drive.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, how large is the / partition?
[15:43] <SuperLag> 100GB
[15:44] <SuperLag> didn't even need to make it that big... I just wanted to make sure I had plenty of room, as I install a lot of stuff usually
[15:45] <BluesKaj> 15G for / is plenty if you keep it cleaned up of old dependencies
[15:46] <SuperLag> yeah, but even if I free up ~85GB of /, that's still not nearly enough :)
[15:48] <SuperLag> most of what's on that drive is either VMs or ISOs that I've downloaded to create said VMs
[15:48] <SuperLag> VMware defaults to creating them in ~/Documents/Virtual Machines/
[15:48] <BluesKaj> heh, here df -h shows; /dev/sda1  12G  6.9G  4.0G  64% /
[15:48] <SuperLag> I have since gotten smart and put them in /opt/vm (on a completely dedicated drive) on my laptop
[15:49] <SuperLag> to keep ~ usage lower
[15:49] <SuperLag> If I could figure out which config files are causing the issue, I'd just delete them or move them out, son they'd be recreated... and keep things where they are
[15:50] <BluesKaj> of course after upgrades I usually do an autoclean and clean
[15:50] <SuperLag> what does autoclean do?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[15:54] <SuperLag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7108848/
[15:55] <SuperLag> ~/.local/ being so full seems strange
[15:56] <SuperLag> ahh.. looks like that's Trash
[16:26] <roasted> hello friends. Has Trusty hit a package freeze yet? As in, the versions of xyz software that we see in Synaptic, are they locked? Or do they have the chance to get upgraded yet?
[18:27] <luminoso> hello all. does anyone knows which xorg-server comes in 14.04?
[18:27] <luminoso> because i need catalyst 13.2
[18:28] <luminoso> and i don't want to install something that i'll need to re-install in july due 13.10 eEOL
[18:29] <lordievader> !info xserver-xorg
[18:29] <lordievader> luminoso: I suppose that one ^ since I think Trusty is in Feature Freeze.
[18:34] <luminoso> humm
[18:34] <luminoso> nice
[18:34] <luminoso> !info xorg-server
[18:35] <luminoso> !info htop
[18:36] <pmatulis3> beware of this bug
[18:36] <pmatulis3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1292220
[19:39] <CarlFK> looking for http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg  for trusty.
[19:39] <CarlFK> or ffenc_dvvideo, or maybe avenc_dvvideo gstreamer plugin
[20:11] <nvanmeurs> Dear people of Ubuntu+1, I was referred to this channel because I'm looking for drivers for a wireless USB adapter ( 0df6:0067 ), itś for my younger brother's computer who is running 12.04. Any chance drivers for this device will be available in the upcoming release of 14.04?
[20:15] <CarlFK> nvanmeurs: if you don't get an answer, may as well dl the cd and see what happens
[20:20] <nvanmeurs> CarlFK: Is 14.04 already available for download?
[20:22] <llutz> nvanmeurs: not released but beta/daily available here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/beta-1/   or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:23] <nvanmeurs> llutz: Does it need to be reinstalled upon release?
[20:23] <llutz> nvanmeurs: just upgrade should do
[20:24] <nvanmeurs> llutz: Okay Thanks alot :)
[20:30] <llutz> nvanmeurs: the usb-id (prod-id) is unknown in 14.04 as far as i can find, so it won't use the device automatically
[20:39] <nvanmeurs> llutz: Thanks for the info, saved me the time from burning the iso
[20:41] <llutz> nvanmeurs: according http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb the device isn't supported, maybe some other ralink-drivers would work. some info on https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6000
[20:42] <llutz> nvanmeurs: imho easier to buy a $10 device with realtek or atheros chipset :)
[20:48] <nvanmeurs> llutz: Yeah we're actually thinking about just wiring the place up
[20:48] <nvanmeurs> I live one floor higher than him, and I got a router up here
[22:07] <CooLBALL> how can I upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 beta?
[22:09] <ikonia> check the links in the topic
[22:34] <CooLBALL> ikonia: i checked them
[22:37] <CooLBALL> i neglected ubuntu for too long
[22:38] <CooLBALL> everything about 12.04.4 has me excited about 14.04
[22:42] <CooLBALL> there is a lot to distinguish ubuntu
[22:44] <CooLBALL> if I seem offtopic I am kind of waiting to hear if i can upgrade to 14.04 BETA
[22:44] <k1l> CooLBALL: of course you can
[22:45] <k1l> update-manager -d # -d for development release. be aware it will break when you need to do something importatnt
[22:46] <CooLBALL> k1l: tyvm
[23:06] <SuperLag> k1l: haha