[00:16] Is this the right place to ask about xubuntu 14.04 b1 problems? [00:16] yep [00:18] great ... I did a clean install of the beta, and then did all the updates. I am now trying to change the "Time And Data Settings" to use ntp, and the attempt to install it is failing [00:18] "Could not install package The necessary applications to install the package could not be found" [00:20] obviously that's a bug, just wondering where the best place to report it would be .... regular launchpad? [00:23] I also have a question about xfdesktop --reload [00:23] ... it no longer causes the desktop background to cycle [00:23] ok so I've tried firefox 24/27/28/29/30, 5 versions, none are working on 14.04, but they were before i updated... all give (process:10585): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped) [00:24] I'm using firefox in wine because it won't run on linux :-/ [00:24] Beryl: o_O? firefox runs fine here. try a clean firefox setup without your addons [00:24] Beryl: I'm using firefox on 14.04 b1 without any problems, did you trying moving aside your ~/.mozilla directory [00:24] dougbb: yes [00:25] k1l_: i have for all of them [00:25] Beryl: did you do a clean install of 14.04 (i.e., formatting the system partitions)? [00:26] dougbb: it's hash perfect [00:26] I don't understand what you mean by that [00:26] did you format the system partitions when you installed? [00:27] yes, and not a single bit is wrong [00:28] I've been using 14.04 for a while and after a series of updates, even fresh firefox, ANY version will not run [00:28] all segfault [00:28] It's funny how wine's development branch is a more stable API [00:30] Beryl, do any other mozilla-based apps work? Like thunderbird or filezilla? [00:30] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833117 [00:30] Mozilla bug 833117 in Startup and Profile System "Does not disable glib slice allocator with glib >= 2.35" [Critical,New] [00:30] haven't tried [00:32] "To be able to run it, I have to enter `firefox -safe-mode' and reset it." [00:32] tried that [00:32] i'm going to rolling back it's deps [00:32] for more workarounds or info see and contribute to that bug [00:33] I have a feling all 5 versions of firefos have not broke themselves at the same time [00:33] wait what? [00:33] I've tried 24/27/28/29/30, none work [00:33] all 5 version? so you are mixing things anyway? ff works here btw [00:33] It's gotta be a broken dep [00:34] it's like back when trying to empty the trash in every gtk de causes the desktop crask [00:34] none of the des were broken, a lib was that was patched to be bad [00:34] ok, so please try a clean 14.04 and a official ubuntu package from the repos. then please report a bug or confirm the bug existing and contribute there [00:36] flipping back to pure vanilla now [00:36] lol wow firefox gpu acceleration works in wine [00:38] ok back to standard 14.04 28.0+build1-0ubuntu1 [00:41] -safe-mode doesn't change anything, crashes instantly on startup, sometimes mozilla crash reporter comes up, sometimes it does not [00:43] If the exact same firefox version/build can run on 13.10 but not 14.04, and 14.04 uses newer deps... gotts be bad deps [00:53] installed thunderbird... does not work either [00:53] filezilla does though [00:54] aaaaand i try launching thunderbird and this time it starts [00:54] Beryl: thunderbird comes installed by default, why did you have to install it? [00:54] and again, it fails [00:54] dougbb: installed minimal [00:55] so .... does that perhaps suggest a course of action to you? [00:55] :) [00:55] thunderbird starts every second time, strange [00:56] i coudl throw on the ubuntu desktop meta package but it's not going to change firefox or it's deps... [00:56] unless canonical has royally fucked with cross deps [00:59] I'm suggesting that you do a stock install, not "minimal" and see if that helps [01:00] of course if it does, you're right that there is a dep problem [01:00] but I imagine that those of us who are reporting that it works fine did not do a minimal install (I certainly did not) [02:54] oh my god praise mint, their firefox deb works === Stanley|00 is now known as Stanley00 [07:52] hello everyone :) [07:52] I have a question, can someone help me? [07:53] I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 iso last night and i want to install it on my laptop but i dont have a CD [07:53] is there anyway to do that without using a cd? [07:58] I've not used CD nor USB for a long time - use a USB [07:58] I use unetbootin [07:58] bah read I've not used CD nor USB as I've not used CD nor DVD [08:00] elfy, what do i select? daily build, or daily build_64x ? [08:01] I don't know what you need ;) [08:01] if you want 64bit then the 64x one [08:02] elfy, alright buddy, thanks :) [08:02] welcome :) [08:04] Data_Crusad3r: if you downloaded yesterday - you can point unetbootin at that rather than get it again [08:05] yeah i know but how can i acess the file via unetboot? [08:05] its in download files [08:06] Data_Crusad3r: at the bottom of unetbootin - diskimage - naviagte to the location [08:07] in the location, it's only showing me my computer [08:08] can I drag and drop? [08:11] navigate from File System to /home/user/Downloads [08:23] Data_Crusad3r: sorted? === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [09:32] Hi everyone, I got two problems (XFCE, 64 bit, 14.04): At first, the notification bar crashes all the time. And secondly, nm-applet does not show. [09:32] (Additionally, eclipse just crashed, but that might be unrelated) [09:37] Good morning. === Fudgey is now known as Fudge [10:49] Any of you guys encounter an issue where you cannot lock the desktop session? [10:50] My screen will just flicker/flash, like it was *attempting* to lock, but then go right back to what I was doing before that attempt. [11:45] 'Morning folks === soee_ is now known as soee [14:38] i cant install this plugin [14:38] https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin/download.html?platform=linux_ubuntu_i386 [14:38] what is wrong [14:52] budo_: what is the error you get [14:53] ok. anyone that have the same problem as me. [14:54] tell them to go to this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-google-talk-ubuntu-official-repository/ [14:54] and it might work. it worked for me [15:33] I reinstalled. [15:34] So when I mounted old ~, the problems returned. [15:34] It's specific to my profile, but I don't know where to start, to fix the issue. [15:35] I'm currently reverted, to the new profile... but I'd like to have access to the data in my old profile. I guess I could bindmount stuff like ~/{Code,Documents,Downloads,Music,Pictures,Videos} [15:42] I don't have enough root on the drive where ~ is, currently, to copy stuff over. It's only a 250GB drive. Where all the ~ stuff is stored for the original, it's a 2TB drive. [15:43] SuperLag, how large is the / partition? [15:43] 100GB [15:44] didn't even need to make it that big... I just wanted to make sure I had plenty of room, as I install a lot of stuff usually [15:45] 15G for / is plenty if you keep it cleaned up of old dependencies [15:46] yeah, but even if I free up ~85GB of /, that's still not nearly enough :) [15:48] most of what's on that drive is either VMs or ISOs that I've downloaded to create said VMs [15:48] VMware defaults to creating them in ~/Documents/Virtual Machines/ [15:48] heh, here df -h shows; /dev/sda1 12G 6.9G 4.0G 64% / [15:48] I have since gotten smart and put them in /opt/vm (on a completely dedicated drive) on my laptop [15:49] to keep ~ usage lower [15:49] If I could figure out which config files are causing the issue, I'd just delete them or move them out, son they'd be recreated... and keep things where they are [15:50] of course after upgrades I usually do an autoclean and clean [15:50] what does autoclean do? [15:51] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920 [15:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7108848/ [15:55] ~/.local/ being so full seems strange [15:56] ahh.. looks like that's Trash === Guest87411 is now known as amblin [16:26] hello friends. Has Trusty hit a package freeze yet? As in, the versions of xyz software that we see in Synaptic, are they locked? Or do they have the chance to get upgraded yet? === elijah_ is now known as elijah === elijah is now known as uncle_comcast === uncle_comcast is now known as uncle_duran === om26er_ is now known as om26er === uncle_duran is now known as uncle_comcast === uncle_comcast is now known as elijah [18:27] hello all. does anyone knows which xorg-server comes in 14.04? [18:27] because i need catalyst 13.2 [18:28] and i don't want to install something that i'll need to re-install in july due 13.10 eEOL [18:29] !info xserver-xorg [18:29] xserver-xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+1ubuntu8 (trusty), package size 67 kB, installed size 366 kB [18:29] luminoso: I suppose that one ^ since I think Trusty is in Feature Freeze. [18:34] humm [18:34] nice [18:34] !info xorg-server [18:34] Package xorg-server does not exist in trusty [18:35] !info htop [18:35] htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-3 (trusty), package size 65 kB, installed size 185 kB [18:36] beware of this bug [18:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1292220 [18:37] Launchpad bug 1292220 in compiz (Ubuntu) "ccsm crashed with UnboundLocalError in AskUser(): local variable 'msg_dict' referenced before assignment" [Medium,Confirmed] [19:39] looking for http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg for trusty. [19:39] or ffenc_dvvideo, or maybe avenc_dvvideo gstreamer plugin [20:11] Dear people of Ubuntu+1, I was referred to this channel because I'm looking for drivers for a wireless USB adapter ( 0df6:0067 ), itś for my younger brother's computer who is running 12.04. Any chance drivers for this device will be available in the upcoming release of 14.04? [20:15] nvanmeurs: if you don't get an answer, may as well dl the cd and see what happens [20:20] CarlFK: Is 14.04 already available for download? [20:22] nvanmeurs: not released but beta/daily available here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/beta-1/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [20:23] llutz: Does it need to be reinstalled upon release? [20:23] nvanmeurs: just upgrade should do [20:24] llutz: Okay Thanks alot :) [20:30] nvanmeurs: the usb-id (prod-id) is unknown in 14.04 as far as i can find, so it won't use the device automatically [20:39] llutz: Thanks for the info, saved me the time from burning the iso [20:41] nvanmeurs: according http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb the device isn't supported, maybe some other ralink-drivers would work. some info on https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6000 [20:42] nvanmeurs: imho easier to buy a $10 device with realtek or atheros chipset :) [20:48] llutz: Yeah we're actually thinking about just wiring the place up [20:48] I live one floor higher than him, and I got a router up here === elijah is now known as elijah|out === elijah|out is now known as elijah [22:07] how can I upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 beta? [22:09] check the links in the topic [22:34] ikonia: i checked them [22:37] i neglected ubuntu for too long [22:38] everything about 12.04.4 has me excited about 14.04 [22:42] there is a lot to distinguish ubuntu [22:44] if I seem offtopic I am kind of waiting to hear if i can upgrade to 14.04 BETA [22:44] CooLBALL: of course you can [22:45] update-manager -d # -d for development release. be aware it will break when you need to do something importatnt [22:46] k1l: tyvm [23:06] k1l: haha