[08:28] <zequence> Just tested the ubuntustudio-live plugin. It's not working 100%. Our meta is not updated either, so that may cause some problems too
[10:04] <zequence> I just realized that we don't seem to have any application to change monitors, resolution, etc (or the icon is not showing)
[10:35] <knome> settings manager -> desktop ?
[10:35] <knome> err, displays
[10:36] <zequence> knome: It's there :). I was using VirtualBox, and the resolution was so low, I didn't realize I didn't see the full selection of options
[10:36] <knome> ;)
[19:36] <zequence> OvenWerk1: If you have time, confirm these bugs (or anyone else, for that matter)
[19:36] <zequence> bug 1293511
[19:36] <zequence> bug 1292550
[19:40] <zequence> Nick__: There are a couple of things. Work on the colors a bit. Make the grey text less grey. Perhaps change the color of the side bar too
[19:41] <Nick__> I'm working at my real job today too, so I might be unresponsive for periods of time
[19:41] <zequence> And additionally, if you have ideas on how to imporove it, that would be fine too
[19:41] <Nick__> Yeah.  I was looking at it, and had some ideas for the sidebar.
[19:41] <Nick__> To improve, I say let's go to Joomla
[19:41] <Nick__> lol, it's a big change, so maybe let's dont
[19:42] <zequence> Yeah, it would offer more possibilities for sure
[19:42] <Nick__> I just went through a huge server migration as well, so I lost the wordpress theme.  I was thinking, we could make a similar style but make it with bootstrap, some animations and stuff, and in Joomla
[19:43] <Nick__> That would be more of a long term thing though, in my spare time, maybe a few hours a week until it's done.  So we can definitely just patch the current one up for now, and look at Joomla afterwards
[19:43] <zequence> Sure
[19:43] <Nick__> I will need the wordpress theme again, though.
[19:43] <knome> it's in launchpad
[19:43] <Nick__> Ok good stuff
[19:43] <Nick__> what would the search term be?
[19:44] <knome> let me dig it up for you
[19:44] <zequence> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-website/ubuntustudio-website/ubuntustudio-website
[19:44] <Nick__> k I'm looking too.
[19:44] <Nick__> Ok thanks
[19:44] <knome> yeah... i was just coming to that :)
[19:45] <knome> since you propose a switch to joomla, can you argument as to why?
[19:45] <zequence> I rearranged some our lp projects a while back, to make the bzr branches easier to find (lp:ubuntustudio-website)
[19:45] <Nick__> Ok, I;ll have to download it when I get on my ubuntu installation later.
[19:45] <zequence> As Nick__ said, I don't think that is our first priority.
[19:46] <zequence> And, we certainly need to discuss any big changes
[19:46] <Nick__> My basic proposal of Joomla is simple: it's easier.  Point blank.  It's more powerful in a lot of ways as well.  
[19:46] <knome> i'm following the discussion... just asking why ;)
[19:47] <knome> professionally speaking, i couldn't agree less :D
[19:47] <knome> i've had several clients running both joomla and wordpress sites, and they are at loss with joomla
[19:47] <knome> i'm sure it makes sense if that's what you are accustomed with
[19:47] <Nick__> I would like to see the site be bootstrapped (that's how I usually make websites).  40% or something like that is on mobile devices now, and the current site doesn't fare too well on mobile devices.  So by rewriting a new site, making it responsive, why not do it the best and easiest way?
[19:47] <zequence> I think that very much depends on who is managing it, of course
[19:48] <knome> zequence, of course, but content management is for the user
[19:48] <knome> Nick__, easiest way is to switcht the CMS instead of modifying the theme?
[19:48] <Nick__> I find Wordpress can be very convoluted
[19:49] <Nick__> Knome, yes.  lol.  It takes a few hours to build a site.  Easy enough, and it would also provide more professional plugins and whatnot, if that is an appeal
[19:49] <Nick__> Just from what I've seen
[19:49] <knome> i still can't disagree less...
[19:49] <knome> there are surely bad plugins for wordpress
[19:49] <knome> but also for joomla
[19:50] <Nick__> Yes, but Joomla has some pretty great exclusive plugins as well
[19:50] <Nick__> I mean, it's an idea, personally I think it would be better, especially how things seem easier as far as adding content to it, adding plugins and stuff.
[19:51] <Nick__> If the idea doesn't fly, that's ok too.  Whatevers best for the team
[19:51] <knome> what plugins need to be added?
[19:51] <knome> i'm not against the change, feel free to do anything you think is the best
[19:51] <Nick__> I don't think any need to be added
[19:51] <Nick__> I mean down the road, let's say you wanna have some sort of something or something added to one page.  Joomla makes it easy, I find.
[19:52] <Nick__> I personally would use something like Smart Slider for the main slider area, and show screenshots as well.  When people first hit the site, the top of the first page is the first thing they see.  I think it would be great to offer a more inside look on the front page.
[19:53] <knome> inside look?
[19:53] <knome> isn't that a content, not a technical issue?
[19:54] <Nick__> Instead of having the blogroll on the home page, I personally think it should be its own "news" page or something.  And on the home page, have a small section with the 5 most recent or something, and then in the main section on the home page, have more information on what it is and how it operates.  Not a long speel or anything, just a few small sections with neat graphics and a few sentences
[19:54] <Nick__> Well, yes, you're right.
[19:54] <Nick__> Except for, the slider would be a technical thing.
[19:54] <knome> any reason why the current slider isn't fit for the purpose?
[19:54] <Nick__> A layered slider, with text, buttons, images, and a background.  I mean you could do it now, in the current slider, but it would have to be done manually
[19:55] <knome> i don't understand the difference
[19:55] <knome> how would another slider do it less manually?
[19:56] <Nick__> Because with the current one you'd have to go in and code the entire thing.  So, have an unordered list, and in each li, have a bunch of code for each layer, and then the CSS for each layer.  In Joomlas Smart Slider, you just point and click it into existence.  Just thinking of the simplicity for the ones who manage the content
[19:56] <Nick__> I mean, there may be better sliders in wordpress
[19:57] <knome> have you seen the administrator interface for the current slider?
[19:58] <Nick__> I don't know what the current slider is, lol.
[19:59] <Nick__> I thought it was a basic one, I could be wrong
[19:59] <Nick__> I gotta run for a bit tho
[19:59] <knome> it's a very basic one
[19:59] <knome> but it can be pretty hard to judge what's easier if you haven't seen both alternatives
[19:59] <knome> ok, have fun
[19:59] <Nick__> true
[19:59] <Nick__> ill be back
[21:40] <cub> I read up on the log and I'd just like to add that I would recommend not to change from Wordpress to Joomla. I've done sites in both cms and think WP is easier and work better. Also from my work only a few companies still use joomla, most others have moved over to wordpress (or in some part to Drupal but they are now moving over to wordpress), and the ones with joomla have been struggling. So, imho, stay with wordpress and adjust 
[21:40] <cub> the theme there if necessary.
[21:40] <cub> sry gotta run again.