[00:00] <hatch> I think that was to fix a bug of some sort
[00:00] <hatch> sory I've been head down in other stuff for a couple weeks
[00:00] <huwshimi> So they're not getting the transition events anymore to update the height...
[00:00] <rick_h_> hatch: huwshimi yea was a browser issue
[00:01] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Yeah, so the firefox, IE comment
[00:01] <rick_h_> had to kill the animation in order to work in IE/FF properly
[00:01] <hatch> ohh right now I remember - it was not stopping at the correct place
[00:01] <rick_h_> yea, was a CSS animation issue that seemed browser bug related
[00:02] <rick_h_> huwshimi: got time to hangout?
[00:02] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Sure!
[00:02] <rick_h_> huwshimi: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/lite/7ecpifrssat4mpruhen6751ibs?hl=en
[00:05] <huwshimi> rick_h_: One sec, doing a little dance to get a webcam going
[00:05] <rick_h_> huwshimi: rgr
[00:06] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Oh, can you invite me with my canonical address?
[00:06] <huwshimi> rick_h_: I think that's the problem...
[00:07] <huwshimi> (unrelated to the webcam)
[00:07] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpijovag9m0l96n1f26f6vvk?authuser=1&hl=en
[02:28]  * rick_h_ heads to bed...zzzzz
[12:21] <rick_h_> frankban: in following some emails it seems the delay in 1.17.5 hitting trusty is that it has to build for the new archs 
[12:21] <rick_h_> frankban: so longer delay in getting uploaded this release. 
[12:21] <frankban> rick_h_: :-/ ok thanks for looking
[12:59] <rick_h_> benji: or bac is there a good trick to launchpad auth lbox from an lxc? Did anyone find anything there?
[13:00] <BradCrittenden> rick_h_: not sure about your question.  i've never used lbox w/in an lxc
[13:00] <benji> rick_h_: most clients print the URL for you to navigate to yourself, does lbox not do that?
[13:00] <rick_h_> benji: no, just get Go to your browser now and authorize access to Launchpad.
[13:00] <rick_h_> Press [ENTER] after authorization is confirmed... 
[13:00] <benji> that's poor form
[13:00] <rick_h_> and I had hoped it'd show in the LP webui around auth'd apps as waiting but no luck
[13:01] <benji> if the lxc shares a filesystem with the host you could run lbox there to do the auth and then stop it and restart in the lxc
[13:01] <bac> rick_h_: ah, heck, i found a link about how to do lplib auth without a browser and gave it to matt the other day.
[13:01] <rick_h_> yea it does share. Was avoiding installing lbox on the main system
[13:01] <rick_h_> keeping everything in the lxc, but maybe that's a pipe dream
[13:01] <bac> rick_h_: look at the echo example here https://help.launchpad.net/API/EndUserHints
[13:02] <rick_h_> bac:  thanks looking
[13:02] <rick_h_> ooh
[13:03] <rick_h_> :( no luck 
[13:10]  * frankban lunches
[13:10] <rick_h_> benji: or bac can I get a charmworld review when you get time in LP while I wait to see if Makyo has any LP auth tips for lbox? https://code.launchpad.net/~rharding/charmworld/apply-cowboys/+merge/211517
[13:10] <benji> rick_h_: I'll take a look
[13:10] <bac> rick_h_: darn, i'd hoped that would work
[13:10] <rick_h_> benji: ty much
[13:10] <bac> rick_h_: you need just one?
[13:10] <rick_h_> bac: yea, seems like a good idea
[13:11] <rick_h_> bac: yea, just applying the cowboys from the weekend 
[13:11] <rick_h_> bac: did get the min_score in ES to work out so nice we don't have to pull as much data down
[13:12] <bac> rick_h_: so the 'min_score' is not just for ES 1.0?  the docs, as i read them, sure implied as much.
[13:12] <rick_h_> bac: yes, it's not for just 1.0. I think the docs keeps pointing us there. As I mentioned, I saw it in the book I bought this weekend which was .20
[13:13] <rick_h_> bac: it also has a flag to always output scores, even with a sort, so added that as well for future reference
[13:13] <bac> yeah, i see that.  good on you for digging up those tweaks
[13:14] <bac> rick_h_: as far as interactively playing with the queries, you can pass '&min_score=0.1' as query string
[13:15] <rick_h_> bac: ah very cool then. Missed that
[13:15] <rick_h_> that'll help instead of needing to add the &debug=true idea
[13:19]  * rick_h_ heads back to the office from the coffee shop
[13:41] <frankban> rogpeppe: when you have time, could you please take a look at https://codereview.appspot.com/77420043 ? thanks
[14:02] <rogpeppe> will do
[14:45] <hatch__> jcastro are you aware of anyone working on a promoted nginx charm?
[14:50] <hatch> jujugui call in 10
[14:51] <jcastro> hatch, negatron
[14:52] <negatron> yes?
[14:52] <hatch> :)
[14:52] <jcastro> hatch, some people want one as a sub, but I think mostly it's like, for whatever you are charming, provide a web server, config option to swap out the two
[14:52] <jcastro> I think the ability to sub on whatever webserver you prefer could also be badass
[14:53] <hatch> hmm - I did some work on the ghost charm last night, working towards getting the fixes for promotion. I need to provide something so I was thinking nginx
[14:53] <hatch> nginx won't work as a sub because you could do load balancing with it
[14:54] <jcastro> hatch, we've had the argument back and forth in ~charmers about an nginx charm for about .... 2 years
[14:55] <hatch> sounds like the person to put the code into the charm gets to decide then ;)
[14:55] <jcastro> indeed
[14:57] <hatch> ok well for the ghost charm purposes I'll need to find something which provides an http interface for apache first I guess
[14:57] <hatch> try and figure that beast out
[14:58] <Makyo> jujugui call in 2
[15:04] <bac> benji: any objection to removing the remove_charm.py script when we can do it via the GUI?
[15:05] <benji> bac: nope, sounds good
[15:13] <rick_h_> Makyo: let me know if you get time and want to chat on the app state card if you're heading that way after the tests and such. 
[15:14] <Makyo> rick_h_, sure. Can chat whenever, expect another 45 mins or so on this.
[15:14] <rick_h_> Makyo: ok, I've got calls in 3hr on so want to make sure I don't block you today
[15:14] <Makyo> Alright, will make sure it's before then
[15:15] <hatch> rick_h_ so the only issue I can think of moving the ecs into the env is that it will then not support pyjuju (because it will only be in the go env) I'm sure this is ok just want to make you ware
[15:15] <hatch> aware 
[15:16] <rick_h_> hatch: yep, works for me. If we had time I'd add cards to start yanking pyjuju code 
[15:26] <hatch> ohh the env doesn't have reference to the db
[15:27] <rick_h_> hatch: oh, okay then
[15:27] <hatch> now should it?.....hmm
[15:27] <rick_h_> hatch: hmm, have to look at that. 
[15:27] <hatch> I'm thinking no
[15:27] <hatch> it hasn't had to modify or reference anything outside of it's little world
[15:28] <rick_h_> hatch: works for me
[15:28] <hatch> I'm going to leave it in app for now - it can be moved later if we feel it should 
[16:04] <Makyo> rick_h_, time for a call?
[16:05] <rick_h_> Makyo: sure thing, give me 2min
[16:05] <Makyo> Sure/
[16:07] <rick_h_> Makyo: k, shoot me a link?
[16:08] <Makyo> Once G+ figures out what it;s doing
[16:08] <Makyo> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpihh3ddg7hsj76kq3s5v7i8?authuser=1&hl=en
[16:18] <hatch> rick_h_ I figured you'd get a kick out of https://github.com/visionmedia/mocha/commit/a2968bf64e13cf15ccd33b8d395947a305fbd461 221-235 :)
[16:20] <rick_h_> ugh!
[16:20] <hatch> lol
[16:20] <hatch> done done done done done........done?
[16:21] <rick_h_> yea, so much nicer and easier for sure!
[16:21] <hatch> lol
[16:21] <rick_h_> I nee some more done with my done
[16:21] <rick_h_> cause it's not really done
[16:21] <hatch> done all the things!
[16:32] <hatch> heh I forgot how much work it was going to be to create a utils directory
[16:45]  * hatch proposes we switch to Grunt
[16:45] <rick_h_> for what?
[16:45] <hatch> our makefile
[16:45] <hatch> binary has to be easier to follow than this
[16:45] <hatch> lol
[16:45] <rick_h_> :)
[16:50] <hatch> there is some wako stuff going on here
[16:50] <hatch> build-debug/juju-ui/assets/tabview/assets
[16:50] <hatch> tabview is an asset?
[16:55] <rick_h_> umm, thought it was a widget
[16:56] <hatch> yeah there is some funkyness going on in there
[16:56] <hatch> there are a bunch of yui modules in there
[17:06]  * hatch throws hands up in the air
[17:07] <rick_h_> hatch: need another set of eyeballs? What's up?
[17:07] <hatch> oh I got it
[17:07] <hatch> I had it a long time ago
[17:07] <rick_h_> k
[17:07] <hatch> but for whatever reason -f wasn't -fing
[17:07] <hatch> when all else fails....make clean-all
[17:08] <rick_h_> heh
[17:09] <hatch> there really is some funkyness in that makefile though
[17:09] <hatch> it's including direct references to odd yui files
[17:10] <hatch> I'm sure there is a reason....but none is listed
[17:21] <hatch> I love it when a deepequals fails but doesn't tell you what failed heh
[17:23] <Makyo> jujugui small review, tests only: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/183
[17:23] <hatch> sure
[17:24] <hatch> ooo interesting - inline functions in an array are parsed as strings 
[17:29] <hatch> Makyo all done
[17:57] <Makyo> Whoa, Yahoo bought Vizify and are shutting it down.
[18:32] <hatch> cool passThroughToOriginalMethod I didnt even know we had this 
[18:33] <hatch> Makyo oh darn it looks like they made a cool product
[18:34] <Makyo> Yeah, hopefully it picks back up as something else under Yahoo.
[18:34] <hatch> probably just a gui in some admin panel somewhere heh
[18:35] <Makyo> jujugui just found out we have a water leak between the meter and the house, losing about a gallon a second. Going to step away to start calling around, since the water district won't repair it.
[18:35] <hatch> ouch! good luck!
[18:37] <hatch> interestingly enough our water meters are inside our houses, so when something breaks between the meter and the outside the city has to come and dig a hole in the front yard to shut it off 
[18:37] <benji> yow, that's a lot of water; good luck
[18:38] <Makyo> 76,000 gallons in February.
[18:38]  * bac wishes he could lose a gallon a second
[18:38] <hatch> holy crap!
[18:38] <rick_h_> we had a leak in our sprinkler system. Since we got quarterly water bills didn't know until the $900 bill arrived
[18:38] <rick_h_> we think it was only going for the weeks prior to the bill. 
[18:39] <hatch> ouch
[18:39] <Makyo> Yeah, our sewer company informed us we were using 127% of annual allotment.
[18:41] <hatch> well sheesh at least someone told you! 
[18:41] <hatch> that could have been expensive
[18:44] <Makyo> It is expensive.  The water company won't credit us, so bills are at $250, and we have to fix it ourselves.
[18:46] <hatch> :/ 
[18:53] <hatch> lunching
[20:25] <hatch> oo unity 5 preorder http://unity3d.com/5
[20:25] <hatch> I remember when it was Unity 3D :P
[20:27] <lazyPower> hatch: when native unity lands in teh browser, ar eyou going to be a mesh rendering machine?
[20:28] <hatch> haha probably not - a while ago I dabbled in C# to make a game in Unity but then got side tracked :)
[20:28] <lazyPower> mono flavored C# or .Net?
[20:28] <hatch> mono 
[20:28] <lazyPower> i ask because I have done both :)
[20:28] <hatch> I still don't understand .Net
[20:29] <lazyPower> meh, its just the kitchen sink
[20:29] <lazyPower> nbd
[20:29] <hatch> it's a framework...but not....but is....
[20:29] <hatch> :)
[20:29] <lazyPower> think of it as a big tree made of hate with strongly typed datatypes
[20:29] <lazyPower> thats all you need to know
[20:29] <hatch> lol
[20:29] <hatch> I liked C# but it has some very odd things
[20:30] <hatch> like using different methods for arrays and  multi dimensional arrays
[20:30] <lazyPower> this is where .Net trumps mono. Linq made all of that dead simple
[20:30] <lazyPower> and it was stupid fast
[20:30] <lazyPower> s/was/is
[20:31] <hatch> ahh, well then, it's not made of 'only' hate then :P
[20:31] <lazyPower> linq will bite you eventually
[20:31] <lazyPower> so my statement still stands
[20:33] <hatch> haha ok I'll take your word on it
[20:34] <hatch> I have some ideas for games and whatnot but can never find a designer to partner with
[20:34] <hatch> lots of coders but designers never seem to want to pair up :)
[20:37] <bac> rick_h_, benji: i'm seeing errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116218/ when running the charmworld test suite.  chameleon creates temp python files in /tmp and they aren't getting cleaned up.  i added some new form tests and perhaps pushed us over some threshold.  ideas?
[20:40] <rick_h_> bac: hmm, not seen it. I'd assume it's not the templates that's causing it? Do we have some other process creating too much junk?
[20:40] <rick_h_> bac: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16526783/python-subprocess-too-many-open-files notes updating limits to get around it, but will have to chase down the root there to 'fix' it. 
[20:41] <bac> rick_h_: well, there are definitely chameleon template files laying around.
[20:48] <bac> rick_h_: huh, lsof shows that process has 1024 files open but in CLOSE_WAIT
[20:49] <bac> so, these aren't files but sockets...
[20:55]  * rick_h_ runs away to get the boy from day care. 
[20:56] <rick_h_> bac: sorry, I'm not sure off the top of my head. It talkes to mongo and ES over tcp/ip not sockets. So not sure what it'd be using
[21:02] <Makyo> Argh, I just need a plumber.  Apparently they're ALL in another castle today.
[21:04] <hatch> Makyo can you shut off the water at the meter at least?
[21:05] <hatch> sucks to not have water...but better than leaking I guess
[21:05] <Makyo> Yeah, that's the last resort.  It's not running fast enough to make it worth having to turn it back on every time we need to use the restroom, yet.
[21:06] <Makyo> (Rechecked the meter, there's a decimal place in there.  1/100th of a gallon a second)
[21:06] <bac> makyo but you get one free flush per toilet!
[21:06] <Makyo> Hah!
[21:07] <hatch> haha
[21:20] <hatch> jujugui looking for a review on the Environment Change Set branch https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/184 (more branches to come)
[21:40] <hatch> tests passed
[21:40] <rick_h_> Makyo: can you peek at ^? I want to make sure we get feedback from others on a big important part
[21:41] <rick_h_> hatch: and maybe frankban as well. Maybe not
[21:41] <Makyo> rick_h_, sure, 1sec.
[21:41] <hatch> rick_h_ sure I can send him an email to review
[21:42] <rick_h_> Makyo: no rush, just know hatch and I have gone through it, and want to get other eyeballs to help make sure we think all things through and not get blinded by previous discussions
[21:42] <Makyo> Yep, sounds good.
[21:42] <rick_h_> it'll set a big path for us that will effect a bunch of other cards off of this
[21:42] <rick_h_> thanks Makyo 
[21:59] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:04] <rick_h_> mornining huwshimi