[08:24] Riddell: i am testing in 2 computers with fresh installation of kuubnut 14.04 [08:24] i had problems with dragon player and dolphin [08:25] it doesn0't find h264 decoder [08:25] qapt ask me to search but doesn't find anything [08:25] asks* [08:30] installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but nothing [08:30] Peace-: apachelogger is the multimedia expert usually [08:32] :) apachelogger pop up! [09:11] "Subject: PPA access cancelled for Private PPA for Kubuntu Ninjas" err, what? [09:12] Riddell: I got that also. guess they killed the ppa [09:13] or they just don't like kubuntu peoples [09:15] jussi: no I got it for all my private PPAs [09:16] I got one for the "Ubuntu Font Family Beta PPA" too, maybe an LP issue [09:16] and I can add myself back [09:16] mm [09:23] yofel: :) with webm it works !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQuDUoTHEo [09:23] yeaa [09:24] 5https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-March/038150.html [09:24] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-March/038150.html [09:25] apachelogger: :D [09:26] i am really really happy that my modifications works and it's a bug of ubuntu [09:26] work* [09:40] apachelogger: btw i can 't reproduce video on file open window [09:40] i have installe kffmpegthumbnailer [09:40] installed [09:41] fails to compute [09:53] "kdevelop-python for Python 3: first stable version (1.6.0) released!" we might want to package that [09:54] why? [09:54] kubotu: newversion kdev-python 1.6.0 [09:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1294021 [09:54] apachelogger: for all the python 3 developers who use kdevelop? [09:54] !info kdev-python trusty [09:55] kdev-python (source: kdev-python): KDevelop Python Plugin. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1569 kB, installed size 12075 kB [09:55] Riddell: past feature freeze and wasn't intended to go past feature freeze [09:55] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-February/007950.html [09:56] feature freeze shmeature freeze :) [09:56] we have PPAs for that sort of thing [09:56] ppa works for me :P [09:56] anyway, note that kdev-python is already at 1.6.0 [09:56] no clue what the deal with that is [09:58] did shadeslayer_ tell us about the qt sru yesterday? [09:58] I may have forgotten [09:59] over night plasma-desktop somehow managed to catch up to whoopsie-upload-all in crash count in 14.04 [09:59] which actually is surprising if you consider that the plasma thing apparently happens a lot and the whoopsie thing actually was depending on very specific timing [10:00] then again, if you add up all qdeclarative crashes you'll probably have like 2.5 times the amount of crashes whoopsie had ^^ [10:04] apachelogger: no he didn't tell me [10:05] shadeslayer_: qt sru piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing [10:11] bug 1290514 has a saucy patch on it but not precise [10:11] bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 [10:11] needs test cases [10:11] hmm, no jmux to ask for a test case [10:40] I have no clue what to do with bug 1291526 [10:40] bug 1291526 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "could not start ksmserver with nvidia-prime at next login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291526 [10:41] though TBH if ksmserver xioerrors that still sounds more like a bug in the x stack more than anything else [10:49] mm, I doubt it's anything to dow ith ksmserver rather than with X clients failing generally [11:19] 'Morning folks [11:20] good morning BluesKaj [11:20] 'Morning soee [11:21] vHanda: on starting kontact I get "KNotes uses a new storage technology that requires migration of your current KNotes data and configuration" is that baloo? [11:21] or maybe it's just akonadi [11:45] Good afternoon. [12:09] Riddell: the files are in my ubuntu one [12:19] Riddell: don't know. You'll have to ask Laurent [12:22] vHanda: just been testing baloo and upgrades from 4.12, all works well except filename search in dolphin, do you know of any problems in that area? [12:23] yes, you'll have to try again with beta 3 [12:24] vHanda: ah, known problem? do you have a bug number? [12:24] Just this - https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116837/ [12:25] vHanda: lovely thanks === rdieter_afk is now known as rdieter_work [12:35] ScottK: bug 1291899 updated [12:35] bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899 [12:37] someone might take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113846/ ? [12:41] soee: pastebin `apt-cache policy kalarm` ? [12:47] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113891/ [12:49] soee: you might need my new access details to kubuntu-ninjas, it changed today [12:49] msg'ed [12:50] ah, so the old one might be removed [12:50] yes [12:51] Riddell: worked, thank you [12:51] yup, W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages HttpError401 [12:52] dump the ninjas ppa? [12:53] mhhhh, we are supposed to do a bug hunt [12:53] oh my [12:53] for me it doest helpe BluesKaj (to install kalarm) i had to use the new one from Riddell [12:53] i got today updates, but it also wants to install some kernel files (kernel that i dont use). and later it wants to remove those files sudo apt-get autoremove...this has happened so many times already...why it wants to instlal those kernel files? [12:54] jarkko: becuse they are new :) [12:54] ? [12:55] new is always better [12:55] jarkko: i think it wants to install new kernel version and informs you that previous one might be removed [12:55] no [12:55] i have 3.13.6 [12:55] and this is 3.8 series [12:56] * BluesKaj comments the ninja ppa [12:56] it's not updating the kernel itself [12:57] we don't have 3.8 kernels in trusty, neither do we have 3.13.6 kernels in trusty, so it's probably ppa stuff [12:57] actually i might have saidd it wrong...it seems the kernel is 3.13-0-18 or something like that [12:57] i have manually installed 3.13.6 [12:57] that makes more sense [12:58] jarkko: remove linux-image-generic I think [12:58] (also using foreign kernels is le dangerous) [12:58] foreign? [12:58] i use ubuntu ppa [12:59] The following packages will be REMOVED: [12:59] linux-headers-3.13.0-17 linux-headers-3.13.0-17-generic [12:59] Riddell: I am also getting Http404 error ninja ppa [12:59] so i quess the installed version was 3.13.0.18 [13:00] http://pastebin.com/BHLakxHb [13:00] jarkko, yeah 3.13.0-18-generic [13:01] there is no 3.13.0-18 entry [13:01] so why it wants to install 3.13.0-8 files? if i have newer kernel already available? [13:03] because it's not an official kernel and you did not remove the packages that pull in an official kernel [13:03] also support in #kubuntu or #ubuntu please [13:04] so is that particular ninja ppa that I posted above no longer valid or what ? [13:05] BluesKaj: ask Riddell nicely to give you a new url [13:06] * BluesKaj asks Riddell politely for the new ninja ppa/url [13:07] * sgclark also asks Riddell politely for a new ninja ppa/url [13:08] agateau_: button resizing in OEM mode working as expected \o/ https://trello.com/c/0ls4KLRB [13:13] >Launchpad: cancellation of archive access [13:13] What did just happen here [13:16] apachelogger: yay \o/ [13:19] Quintasan: ur being kicked out for being lazy [13:19] I see. [13:19] Quintasan: launchpad is broken or something [13:19] sgclark: "Patch boostfix.diff can be reverse-applied" it somehow got applied without quilt knowing about it [13:19] Quintasan: all private ppas were cancelled somehow [13:19] Uh I see. [13:19] sgclark: run `patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/boostfix.diff` [13:20] sgclark: then you can quilt push successfully [13:20] Quintasan: well, membership anyway, so you just need to request a new key [13:20] Riddell: ok thank you [13:20] sgclark: "--with dkms" you don't need that, that's for linux kernel moduels [13:20] ok [13:20] apachelogger: The repo is back up? [13:21] sgclark: and in debian/rules you have dh_install twice, you can remove the one without --list-missing as the second one will do the same thing [13:23] Quintasan: the repo never was gone, your private ppa access keyes were canceled [13:24] Quintasan: I can add you back [13:25] Riddell: I did add myself back in the Manage access page but no new keys [13:25] oh you're back in already, clever you [13:26] well, lunchpad just gave me keys [13:26] Quintasan: see https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archivesubscriptions [13:26] That reminds me - it's way past lunch and I had nothing [13:26] with your username [13:26] Yup, it's up [13:26] Quintasan: I made some fresh hummous yesterday, you should try that [13:26] Thanks Riddell [13:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummus ? [13:27] that's the stuff, freshly made it's lovely [13:27] You eat alone or you put some stuff into it? [13:28] Or put that over some other food? [13:28] aa [13:28] It's a dip [13:28] Gotta try it. [13:29] Though it's probably fastfood today since I'm at uni till late [13:29] nice on toast with some pesto and almonds [13:29] did I mention, the trello says that beta3 tagging is tomorrow :O [13:29] it appears we are a bit behind the kde [13:33] btw, maybe it's vbox but ever so often ubiquity fails to detect intartubes access [13:33] I am not quite sure what to make of it [13:38] I've never seen hat [13:38] I've never seen that [13:38] Riddell: patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/boostfix.diff did nothing, still errors :( this makes no sense [13:39] sgclark: even if you download the files from your ubuntu one share? [13:39] Riddell: ahh was working with mine, will grab those [13:47] yesterday i had a crash of installer [13:47] xD [13:47] daily build [13:49] Riddell: yes still same error with those files. I wonder if I am somehow broken === agateau_ is now known as agateau [14:12] Riddell: I figured it out [14:19] now libreoffice-math is cluttering the menu [14:19] in the name of darth vader, what is it with people making shitty desktop files [14:19] * apachelogger silently cries in corner [14:21] I doesn't know why I keep libreoffice, never use it [14:21] don't [14:36] Riddell: should I be building this with qt4 or qt5? [14:36] sgclark: hmm, good question [14:37] sgclark: it's for plasma media centre which is qt4 so I guess start with qt 4 [14:37] ok [14:37] sgclark: but for bonus points you could make a separate qt5 package :) [14:37] Riddell: will do :) [14:50] apachelogger: my computer is broken [14:50] trying to get it fixed [14:50] oh my [14:50] stop spilling coffee over the hardware :P [14:51] * apachelogger proudly points out that he hasn't had a coffee incident in over 3 years xD [15:09] apachelogger: nah, gpu is broken [15:10] laptop heats just a little bit and screen goes bonkers [15:11] shadeslayer_: do you have a precise patch for bug 1290514 or need me to do it? [15:11] bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 [15:11] shadeslayer_: do you have a test case for that accessibility problem? [15:12] Riddell: my bug is well documented, jmux's isn't [15:19] shadeslayer_: mh, intel onboard graphics ftw [15:19] * apachelogger points out that the accesibility problem has slightly higher priority [15:20] shadeslayer_: where are we on that? [15:22] apachelogger: waiting for paperwork on LO4 bug [15:22] also [15:23] Riddell: i thought i uploaded precise [15:23] if not, please go ahead and do that [15:23] since i need to setup the spare machine [15:25] I feel they should be handled seperately [15:25] if verifiction of one patch causes failure the other will be blocked as well [15:26] Riddell: qxorm is ready for you in my ubuntu one [15:40] https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a71c92cf2e3940f3b2a897671c4255315e72e690 [15:40] I do wonder what the problem is [15:41] are we using apt-pkg incorectly, or is the deb broken, or is apt-pkg bugged [15:42] surely manchicken will know all [15:43] I don't think he's looked at that particular part of madness yet ^^ [15:43] it's pretty isolated from the rest of the lib [15:45] ohm [15:45] * apachelogger can't find the function in question in apt [15:46] I am just really very bad at grepping [15:49] apt has really terrible code [15:51] right [15:51] apt problem, sort of [15:51] it expects the path to have a file extension and then tries to fetch a substring of that [15:52] if the path doesn't have one that causes an out of range exception because the extension length may be 0 for example [15:55] I am getting an HTTP 401 for the Kubuntu Ninjas PPA. [15:58] mamarley: you'll need a new password [15:58] mamarley: for which you'll need to promis to fill in the testing form [15:59] * mamarley promises. [15:59] What will I know? [16:09] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7114834/ [16:10] sgclark: lintian's not wrong there but since you have good reason to change it it's fine to override [16:10] ok [16:14] * manchicken can't open that errors document… [16:16] manchicken: fixed :P [16:16] Yay. [16:16] manchicken: for the errors you need to sign an agreement saying that you won't do evil things with the data [16:16] No promises. [16:16] seeing as the data is automagically transmitted without user tempering that seems fair ;) [16:17] manchicken: are the fixes in master good for release? [16:17] As far as I know. [16:17] if so I am batch exporting everything to the package to safe us from having to roll a tarball ^^ [16:17] They don't fix the LANG settings bug, but the duplicate sources bug has been fixed. [16:18] it's a start :) [16:19] Indeed. [16:19] And from what I understand, that bug you submitted was an existing bug. [16:20] the debfile thing, yeah [16:20] or maybe not, it's really a bug in apt-pkg if you ask me [16:21] libraries should not ever throw exceptions, but I reckon most of the world outside qt will disagree with me on that [16:22] Uploading libqapt_2.1.70-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done. [16:22] Successfully uploaded packages. [16:22] ^ batch export of master changes [16:25] that makes qapt-deb-installer pretty much crash free it seems [16:26] shadeslayer_: you haven't landed the a11y fix in trusty yet? [16:26] Riddell: did you grab the qt4 version already? the qt5 still has the same filenames [16:27] apachelogger: i did [16:27] * apachelogger wonders why the crash is not marked deprecated [16:27] sgclark: not yet I'm afraid [16:28] Riddell: ping me when you are ready for qt5 :) [16:28] ah [16:29] shadeslayer_: nevermind, error tracks the crashes against plasma-desktop so until its version changes it won't be able to detect the fixery [16:29] on a related note [16:30] yofel: 4:4.11.6+git20140308+bzr48768+pkg866~ubuntu14.04.1 [16:30] yofel: didn't you deactivate/delete the daily builds? [16:32] shadeslayer_: seems ubuntu4 indeed has stopped all the qdeclarativeitem crashes \o/ [16:32] don't see any submissions with that version anyway [16:33] Riddell, shadeslayer_: I propose the council sends a free shirt to the dude who came up with the fix [16:34] +1 from my side [16:40] ::workspace-bugs:: [1283820] content of windows (and desktop) appear black when using kwin, but not with kwin_gles - in... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1283820 (by avlas) [18:59] Riddell, apachelogger can you throw me a list of packages I need for full support for any lang? ex. like for just the danish lang? I wish to test the User Docs in 14.04 [19:19] ahoneybun_: systemsettings -> regional stuff -> change language to whatever -> will install everything -> logout -> login -> everything should be in that language [19:19] apachelogger, thanks [19:19] going to test now [19:23] does not install it [19:23] doing it though konsole [19:29] apachelogger, the current problem is that khelpcenter is looking in the wrong directory for the lang file for the user docs [20:01] apachelogger: I thought I did, obviously I didn't completely :S [20:01] I'll get rid of them tomorrow [20:07] how are tags in kmail handled now? are they using xattr for pop3 mail? [20:14] * yofel added himself back to ninjas [20:14] come to think of it... "You can grant access to people or teams to install software from your PPA." [20:15] Riddell: couldn't we just add people there instead of sharing our keys? [20:17] yofel: are you on 4.13? [20:17] yes [20:17] .90 that is [20:18] yofel: can you reproduce the following: give two folders the same tag and then click the tag in one of theme in the right side panel... this does not query anything ... [20:18] *them [20:18] yofel: If I remember correctly clicking the tag would query all folders/file of the same tag ... [20:20] now you ask me something as I've never actually really used nepomuk for anything bug email indexing. I'll check in a bit though [20:20] *but [20:22] yofel: Finally I will make use of all the tag/comment stuff, as I the xattr solution is more reliable... [20:22] so I wont loose all my metadata again with an upgrade [20:23] if you enable it sure, we won't be testing though as xattr is disabled distribution wide by default (IIRC) [20:23] *testing it [20:24] yofel: how can that be? xattr works here, although I never specifically enabled them ... [20:24] yofel: using btrfs though ... [20:25] I might be wrong then, not sure. I'll have to verify what's ext4 set to [20:30] yofel: so you changed the login process for the private ppa? [20:30] ok nvm, xattr seems to work fine with ext4 [20:30] I stand corrected [20:31] yofel: I cannot access the ninjas ppa anymore [20:31] kdeuser56: well, launchpad admins did a private ppa membership cleanup and caused some collateral damage [20:31] yofel: ah okay [20:31] yofel: in a bad situation ... I was just about to install some missing debug package for some akonadi crashes :-( [20:32] I can give you a new key as I'm looking up my new one anyway right now [20:32] yofel: would be coold :-) [20:32] yofel: can you reproduce the quering problem? [20:33] yofel: another thing i noticed: the advanced file search in dolphin is broken for ratings ..., no matter which rating I select, all files are shown [20:37] does anyone here know how to handle apt-get correctly from shellscripts? The process seems to return quite often, e.g. after finishing download, after finishing extracting etc. so if I list some apt-get commands after each other, only half of them get executed ... [20:38] this makes my life really hard, as I run automated scripts that should install me debug packages, that a parse through a for loop, but in the end there are many missing ones ... recking shows the got parsed though ... [20:39] kdeuser56: do you know you can install many packages on one line? [20:39] maco: of course, but this is no option when using a for loop ... [20:39] maco: and that has one big disadvantage: if one package is not installable, the whole process fails ... [20:40] i dont think ive ever used apt-get in a for-loop, but i guess what i'd do instead is use the for loop to build a list, then pass that to apt-get [20:40] maco, as I said, has the disadvantage of failing if one package is not installable [20:41] oh right it doesnt skip [20:41] dpkg --set-selections does skip though [20:41] kdeuser56: apt-get shouldn't really return anything until a package is installed [20:41] if anything it asks you a lot of questions [20:41] (im trying to think of how i've replicated package lists across rebaselines) [20:42] yofel: but somehow it does not work, it always leaves out packages that are for sure specifiedi in the commands and are installable ... [20:43] yofel: and if I am not mistaken apt returns something after finishing downloading packages ... that might be the reason ... [20:44] is the only rational argument that would explain the siutation: apt-get finished downloading, while the script already passes the next command, but apt-get is not ready yet, so it fails, while the other process finishes [20:45] you can never run apt-get in parallel, but it shouldn't wait after downloading [20:45] unless something failed to download [20:46] yofel: i know i cannot run it in parallel, but the script could already pass another command, although apt-get is still locked ... [20:46] the passed command would simply fail ... [20:51] yofel: In theory I should be able to remove nepomuk-core-runtime right? [20:51] not really, at least not right now [20:51] Riddell: did we have a consens on completely removing nepomuk? [20:52] yofel: it does not work, E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [20:53] yofel, has to do with kde-runtime [20:54] yofel: could nepomuk-core-runtime and nepomuk-core-data become optional dependencies of kde-runtime ? [20:55] yofel: and making a hard dependency on nepomuk only for applications not ported to baloo yet, like digikam? [20:56] kde-runtime has the KCM, so either we remove it completely or not at all [20:59] yofel: ah damn, right :-( [21:12] yay -.- [21:12] apparently my issue is well documented [21:12] so its not a single instance of the logic board being faulty [21:13] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?start=0&tstart=0 [21:24] yofel: can you do me a favor? [21:24] yofel: plz update kdeconnect [22:15] ahoneybun_: see /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends search for :da: [22:15] yofel: no consensus against removing it, why would we keep it? PMC is the only thing left using it and I doubt it's worth the resources for something that isn't installed by default [22:17] ok, I'll remove it from kde-runtime then, that never got done [22:17] do you know what else needs removing? Does it have to be running for the migrator? [22:18] no it doesn't, and the migrator switches it off in the config [22:21] ack [22:38] ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski) === soee_ is now known as soee === emma__ is now known as emma [23:42] ScottK: ping, don't forget bug 1291899 [23:42] bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899 [23:43] ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)