[08:24] <Peace-> Riddell: i am testing in 2 computers with fresh installation of kuubnut 14.04 
[08:24] <Peace-> i had problems with dragon player and dolphin 
[08:25] <Peace-> it doesn0't find h264 decoder
[08:25] <Peace-> qapt ask me to search but doesn't find anything 
[08:25] <Peace-> asks*
[08:30] <Peace-> installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but nothing 
[08:30] <yofel> Peace-: apachelogger is the multimedia expert usually
[08:32] <Peace-> :) apachelogger pop up!
[09:11] <Riddell> "Subject: PPA access cancelled for Private PPA for Kubuntu Ninjas" err, what?
[09:12] <jussi> Riddell: I got that also. guess they killed the ppa
[09:13] <jussi> or they just don't like kubuntu peoples
[09:15] <Riddell> jussi: no I got it for all my private PPAs
[09:16] <tsimpson> I got one for the "Ubuntu Font Family Beta PPA" too, maybe an LP issue
[09:16] <Riddell> and I can add myself back
[09:16] <Riddell> mm
[09:23] <Peace-> yofel: :) with webm it works !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQuDUoTHEo
[09:23] <Peace-> yeaa
[09:24] <apachelogger> 5https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-March/038150.html
[09:24] <apachelogger> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-March/038150.html
[09:25] <Peace-> apachelogger: :D
[09:26] <Peace-> i am really really happy that my  modifications works and it's a bug of ubuntu 
[09:26] <Peace-> work*
[09:40] <Peace-> apachelogger: btw i can 't reproduce video on file open window
[09:40] <Peace-> i have installe kffmpegthumbnailer 
[09:40] <Peace-> installed
[09:41] <apachelogger> fails to compute
[09:53] <Riddell> "kdevelop-python for Python 3: first stable version (1.6.0) released!" we might want to package that
[09:54] <apachelogger> why?
[09:54] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion kdev-python 1.6.0
[09:54] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1294021
[09:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: for all the python 3 developers who use kdevelop?
[09:54] <apachelogger> !info kdev-python trusty
[09:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: past feature freeze and wasn't intended to go past feature freeze
[09:55] <apachelogger> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-February/007950.html
[09:56] <Riddell> feature freeze shmeature freeze :)
[09:56] <Riddell> we have PPAs for that sort of thing
[09:56] <apachelogger> ppa works for me :P
[09:56] <apachelogger> anyway, note that kdev-python is already at 1.6.0
[09:56] <apachelogger> no clue what the deal with that is
[09:58] <apachelogger> did shadeslayer_ tell us about the qt sru yesterday?
[09:58] <apachelogger> I may have forgotten
[09:59] <apachelogger> over night plasma-desktop somehow managed to catch up to whoopsie-upload-all in crash count in 14.04
[09:59] <apachelogger> which actually is surprising if you consider that the plasma thing apparently happens a lot and the whoopsie thing actually was depending on very specific timing
[10:00] <apachelogger> then again, if you add up all qdeclarative crashes you'll probably have like 2.5 times the amount of crashes whoopsie had ^^
[10:04] <Riddell> apachelogger: no he didn't tell me
[10:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: qt sru piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
[10:11] <Riddell> bug 1290514 has a saucy patch on it but not precise
[10:11] <Riddell> needs test cases
[10:11] <Riddell> hmm, no jmux to ask for a test case
[10:40] <apachelogger> I have no clue what to do with bug 1291526
[10:41] <apachelogger> though TBH if ksmserver xioerrors that still sounds more like a bug in the x stack more than anything else
[10:49] <Riddell> mm, I doubt it's anything to dow ith ksmserver rather than with X clients failing generally
[11:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:20] <soee> good morning BluesKaj
[11:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning soee
[11:21] <Riddell> vHanda: on starting kontact I get "KNotes uses a new storage technology that requires migration of your current KNotes data and configuration"  is that baloo?
[11:21] <Riddell> or maybe it's just akonadi
[11:45] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:09] <sgclark> Riddell: the files are in my ubuntu one
[12:19] <vHanda> Riddell: don't know. You'll have to ask Laurent
[12:22] <Riddell> vHanda: just been testing baloo and upgrades from 4.12, all works well except filename search in dolphin, do you know of any problems in that area?
[12:23] <vHanda> yes, you'll have to try again with beta 3
[12:24] <Riddell> vHanda: ah, known problem? do you have a bug number?
[12:24] <vHanda> Just this - https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116837/
[12:25] <Riddell> vHanda: lovely thanks
[12:35] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1291899 updated
[12:37] <soee> someone might take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113846/ ?
[12:41] <Riddell> soee: pastebin `apt-cache policy kalarm` ?
[12:47] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113891/
[12:49] <Riddell> soee: you might need my new access details to kubuntu-ninjas, it changed today
[12:49] <Riddell> msg'ed
[12:50] <soee> ah, so the old one might be removed
[12:50] <Riddell> yes
[12:51] <soee> Riddell: worked, thank you
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yup, W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  HttpError401
[12:52] <BluesKaj> dump the ninjas ppa?
[12:53] <apachelogger> mhhhh, we are supposed to do a bug hunt
[12:53] <apachelogger> oh my
[12:53] <soee> for me it doest helpe BluesKaj (to install kalarm) i had to use the new one from Riddell
[12:53] <jarkko> i got today updates, but it also wants to install some kernel files (kernel that i dont use). and later it wants to remove those files sudo apt-get autoremove...this has happened so many times already...why it wants to instlal those kernel files?
[12:54] <soee> jarkko: becuse they are new :)
[12:54] <jarkko> ?
[12:55] <apachelogger> new is always better
[12:55] <soee> jarkko: i think it wants to install new kernel version and informs you that previous one might be removed
[12:55] <jarkko> no
[12:55] <jarkko> i have 3.13.6
[12:55] <jarkko> and this is 3.8 series
[12:56]  * BluesKaj comments the ninja ppa
[12:56] <jarkko> it's not updating the kernel itself
[12:57] <apachelogger> we don't have 3.8 kernels in trusty, neither do we have 3.13.6 kernels in trusty, so it's probably ppa stuff
[12:57] <jarkko> actually i might have saidd it wrong...it seems the kernel is 3.13-0-18 or something like that
[12:57] <jarkko> i have manually installed 3.13.6
[12:57] <apachelogger> that makes more sense
[12:58] <apachelogger> jarkko: remove linux-image-generic I think
[12:58] <apachelogger> (also using foreign kernels is le dangerous)
[12:58] <jarkko> foreign?
[12:58] <jarkko> i use ubuntu ppa
[12:59] <jarkko> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[12:59] <jarkko>   linux-headers-3.13.0-17 linux-headers-3.13.0-17-generic
[12:59] <sgclark> Riddell: I am also getting Http404 error ninja ppa
[12:59] <jarkko> so i quess the installed version was 3.13.0.18
[13:00] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/BHLakxHb
[13:00] <BluesKaj> jarkko, yeah 3.13.0-18-generic
[13:01] <jarkko> there is no 3.13.0-18 entry
[13:01] <jarkko> so why it wants to install 3.13.0-8 files? if i have newer kernel already available?
[13:03] <apachelogger> because it's not an official kernel and you did not remove the packages that pull in an official kernel
[13:03] <apachelogger> also support in #kubuntu or #ubuntu please
[13:04] <BluesKaj> so is that particular ninja ppa that I posted above no longer valid or what ?
[13:05] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: ask Riddell nicely to give you a new url
[13:06]  * BluesKaj asks Riddell politely for the new ninja ppa/url
[13:07]  * sgclark also asks Riddell politely for a new ninja ppa/url
[13:08] <apachelogger> agateau_: button resizing in OEM mode working as expected \o/ https://trello.com/c/0ls4KLRB
[13:13] <Quintasan> >Launchpad: cancellation of archive access
[13:13] <Quintasan> What did just happen here
[13:16] <agateau_> apachelogger: yay \o/
[13:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ur being kicked out for being lazy
[13:19] <Quintasan> I see.
[13:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: launchpad is broken or something
[13:19] <Riddell> sgclark: "Patch boostfix.diff can be reverse-applied" it somehow got applied without quilt knowing about it
[13:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: all private ppas were cancelled somehow
[13:19] <Quintasan> Uh I see.
[13:19] <Riddell> sgclark: run `patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/boostfix.diff`
[13:20] <Riddell> sgclark: then you can quilt push  successfully
[13:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well, membership anyway, so you just need to request a new key
[13:20] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[13:20] <Riddell> sgclark: "--with dkms"  you don't need that, that's for linux kernel moduels
[13:20] <sgclark> ok
[13:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: The repo is back up?
[13:21] <Riddell> sgclark: and in debian/rules you have dh_install twice, you can remove the one without --list-missing as the second one will do the same thing
[13:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: the repo never was gone, your private ppa access keyes were canceled
[13:24] <Riddell> Quintasan: I can add you back
[13:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: I did add myself back in the Manage access page but no new keys
[13:25] <Riddell> oh you're back in already, clever you
[13:26] <Quintasan> well, lunchpad just gave me keys
[13:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: see https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archivesubscriptions
[13:26] <Quintasan> That reminds me - it's way past lunch and I had nothing
[13:26] <Riddell> with your username
[13:26] <Quintasan> Yup, it's up
[13:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: I made some fresh hummous yesterday, you should try that
[13:26] <Quintasan> Thanks Riddell
[13:26] <Quintasan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummus ?
[13:27] <Riddell> that's the stuff, freshly made it's lovely
[13:27] <Quintasan> You eat alone or you put some stuff into it?
[13:28] <Quintasan> Or put that over some other food?
[13:28] <Quintasan> aa
[13:28] <Quintasan> It's a dip
[13:28] <Quintasan> Gotta try it.
[13:29] <Quintasan> Though it's probably fastfood today since I'm at uni till late
[13:29] <Riddell> nice on toast with some pesto and almonds
[13:29] <apachelogger> did I mention, the trello says that beta3 tagging is tomorrow :O
[13:29] <apachelogger> it appears we are a bit behind the kde
[13:33] <apachelogger> btw, maybe it's vbox but ever so often ubiquity fails to detect intartubes access
[13:33] <apachelogger> I am not quite sure what to make of it
[13:38] <Riddell> I've never seen hat
[13:38] <Riddell> I've never seen that
[13:38] <sgclark> Riddell: patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/boostfix.diff did nothing, still errors :( this makes no sense
[13:39] <Riddell> sgclark: even if you download the files from your ubuntu one share?
[13:39] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh was working with mine, will grab those
[13:47] <Peace-> yesterday i had a crash of installer 
[13:47] <Peace-> xD
[13:47] <Peace-> daily build
[13:49] <sgclark> Riddell: yes still same error with those files. I wonder if I am somehow broken
[14:12] <sgclark> Riddell: I figured it out
[14:19] <apachelogger> now libreoffice-math is cluttering the menu
[14:19] <apachelogger> in the name of darth vader, what is it with people making shitty desktop files
[14:19]  * apachelogger silently cries in corner
[14:21] <BluesKaj> I doesn't know why I keep libreoffice, never use it
[14:21] <BluesKaj> don't
[14:36] <sgclark> Riddell: should I be building this with qt4 or qt5?
[14:36] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm, good question
[14:37] <Riddell> sgclark: it's for plasma media centre which is qt4 so I guess start with qt 4
[14:37] <sgclark> ok
[14:37] <Riddell> sgclark: but for bonus points you could make a separate qt5 package :)
[14:37] <sgclark> Riddell: will do :)
[14:50] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: my computer is broken
[14:50] <shadeslayer_> trying to get it fixed
[14:50] <apachelogger> oh my
[14:50] <apachelogger> stop spilling coffee over the hardware :P
[14:51]  * apachelogger proudly points out that he hasn't had a coffee incident in over 3 years xD
[15:09] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: nah, gpu is broken
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> laptop heats just a little bit and screen goes bonkers
[15:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: do you have a precise patch for bug 1290514 or need me to do it?
[15:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: do you have a test case for that accessibility problem?
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: my bug is well documented, jmux's isn't
[15:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: mh, intel onboard graphics ftw
[15:19]  * apachelogger points out that the accesibility problem has slightly higher priority
[15:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: where are we on that?
[15:22] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: waiting for paperwork on LO4 bug
[15:22] <shadeslayer_> also
[15:23] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: i thought i uploaded precise
[15:23] <shadeslayer_> if not, please go ahead and do that
[15:23] <shadeslayer_> since i need to setup the spare machine
[15:25] <apachelogger> I feel they should be handled seperately
[15:25] <apachelogger> if verifiction of one patch causes failure the other will be blocked as well
[15:26] <sgclark> Riddell: qxorm is ready for you in my ubuntu one
[15:40] <apachelogger> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a71c92cf2e3940f3b2a897671c4255315e72e690
[15:40] <apachelogger> I do wonder what the problem is
[15:41] <apachelogger> are we using apt-pkg incorectly, or is the deb broken, or is apt-pkg bugged
[15:42] <Riddell> surely manchicken will know all
[15:43] <apachelogger> I don't think he's looked at that particular part of madness yet ^^
[15:43] <apachelogger> it's pretty isolated from the rest of the lib
[15:45] <apachelogger> ohm
[15:45]  * apachelogger can't find the function in question in apt
[15:46] <apachelogger> I am just really very bad at grepping
[15:49] <apachelogger> apt has really terrible code
[15:51] <apachelogger> right
[15:51] <apachelogger> apt problem, sort of
[15:51] <apachelogger> it expects the path to have a file extension and then tries to fetch a substring of that
[15:52] <apachelogger> if the path doesn't have one that causes an out of range exception because the extension length may be 0 for example
[15:55] <mamarley> I am getting an HTTP 401 for the Kubuntu Ninjas PPA.
[15:58] <Riddell> mamarley: you'll need a new password
[15:58] <Riddell> mamarley: for which you'll need to promis to fill in the testing form
[15:59]  * mamarley promises.
[15:59] <manchicken> What will I know?
[16:09] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7114834/
[16:10] <Riddell> sgclark: lintian's not wrong there but since you have good reason to change it it's fine to override
[16:10] <sgclark> ok
[16:14]  * manchicken can't open that errors document…
[16:16] <apachelogger> manchicken: fixed :P
[16:16] <manchicken> Yay.
[16:16] <apachelogger> manchicken: for the errors you need to sign an agreement saying that you won't do evil things with the data
[16:16] <manchicken> No promises.
[16:16] <apachelogger> seeing as the data is automagically transmitted without user tempering that seems fair ;)
[16:17] <apachelogger> manchicken: are the fixes in master good for release?
[16:17] <manchicken> As far as I know.
[16:17] <apachelogger> if so I am batch exporting everything to the package to safe us from having to roll a tarball ^^
[16:17] <manchicken> They don't fix the LANG settings bug, but the duplicate sources bug has been fixed.
[16:18] <apachelogger> it's a start :)
[16:19] <manchicken> Indeed.
[16:19] <manchicken> And from what I understand, that bug you submitted was an existing bug.
[16:20] <apachelogger> the debfile thing, yeah
[16:20] <apachelogger> or maybe not, it's really a bug in apt-pkg if you ask me
[16:21] <apachelogger> libraries should not ever throw exceptions, but I reckon most of the world outside qt will disagree with me on that
[16:22] <apachelogger>   Uploading libqapt_2.1.70-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[16:22] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[16:22] <apachelogger> ^ batch export of master changes
[16:25] <apachelogger> that makes qapt-deb-installer pretty much crash free it seems
[16:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you haven't landed the a11y fix in trusty yet?
[16:26] <sgclark> Riddell: did you grab the qt4 version already? the qt5 still has the same filenames
[16:27] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: i did
[16:27]  * apachelogger wonders why the crash is not marked deprecated
[16:27] <Riddell> sgclark: not yet I'm afraid
[16:28] <sgclark> Riddell: ping me when you are ready for qt5 :)
[16:28] <apachelogger> ah
[16:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: nevermind, error tracks the crashes against plasma-desktop so until its version changes it won't be able to detect the fixery
[16:29] <apachelogger> on a related note
[16:30] <apachelogger> yofel: 4:4.11.6+git20140308+bzr48768+pkg866~ubuntu14.04.1
[16:30] <apachelogger> yofel: didn't you deactivate/delete the daily builds?
[16:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: seems ubuntu4 indeed has stopped all the qdeclarativeitem crashes \o/
[16:32] <apachelogger> don't see any submissions with that version anyway
[16:33] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer_: I propose the council sends a free shirt to the dude who came up with the fix
[16:34] <shadeslayer_> +1 from my side
[16:40] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1283820] content of windows (and desktop) appear black when using kwin, but not with kwin_gles - in... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1283820 (by avlas)
[18:59] <ahoneybun_> Riddell, apachelogger can you throw me a list of packages I need for full support for any lang? ex. like for just the danish lang? I wish to test the User Docs in 14.04
[19:19] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: systemsettings -> regional stuff -> change language to whatever -> will install everything -> logout -> login -> everything should be in that language
[19:19] <ahoneybun_> apachelogger, thanks
[19:19] <ahoneybun_> going to test now
[19:23] <ahoneybun_> does not install it
[19:23] <ahoneybun_> doing it though konsole
[19:29] <ahoneybun_> apachelogger, the current problem is that khelpcenter is looking in the wrong directory for the lang file for the user docs
[20:01] <yofel> apachelogger: I thought I did, obviously I didn't completely :S
[20:01] <yofel> I'll get rid of them tomorrow
[20:07] <kdeuser56> how are tags in kmail handled now? are they using xattr for pop3 mail?
[20:14]  * yofel added himself back to ninjas
[20:14] <yofel> come to think of it... "You can grant access to people or teams to install software from your PPA."
[20:15] <yofel> Riddell: couldn't we just add people there instead of sharing our keys?
[20:17] <kdeuser56> yofel: are you on 4.13?
[20:17] <yofel> yes
[20:17] <yofel> .90 that is
[20:18] <kdeuser56> yofel: can you reproduce the following: give two folders the same tag and then click the tag in one of theme in the right side panel... this does not query anything ...
[20:18] <kdeuser56> *them
[20:18] <kdeuser56> yofel: If I remember correctly clicking the tag would query all folders/file of the same tag ...
[20:20] <yofel> now you ask me something as I've never actually really used nepomuk for anything bug email indexing. I'll check in a bit though
[20:20] <yofel> *but
[20:22] <kdeuser56> yofel: Finally I will make use of all the tag/comment stuff, as I the xattr solution is more reliable...
[20:22] <kdeuser56> so I wont loose all my metadata again with an upgrade
[20:23] <yofel> if you enable it sure, we won't be testing though as xattr is disabled distribution wide by default (IIRC)
[20:23] <yofel> *testing it
[20:24] <kdeuser56> yofel: how can that be? xattr works here, although I never specifically enabled them ...
[20:24] <kdeuser56> yofel: using btrfs though ...
[20:25] <yofel> I might be wrong then, not sure. I'll have to verify what's ext4 set to
[20:30] <kdeuser56> yofel: so you changed the login process for the private ppa?
[20:30] <yofel> ok nvm, xattr seems to work fine with ext4
[20:30] <yofel> I stand corrected
[20:31] <kdeuser56> yofel: I cannot access the ninjas ppa anymore
[20:31] <yofel> kdeuser56: well, launchpad admins did a private ppa membership cleanup and caused some collateral damage
[20:31] <kdeuser56> yofel: ah okay
[20:31] <kdeuser56> yofel: in a bad situation ... I was just about to install some missing debug package for some akonadi crashes :-(
[20:32] <yofel> I can give you a new key as I'm looking up my new one anyway right now
[20:32] <kdeuser56> yofel: would be coold :-)
[20:32] <kdeuser56> yofel: can you reproduce the quering problem?
[20:33] <kdeuser56> yofel: another thing i noticed: the advanced file search in dolphin is broken for ratings ..., no matter which rating I select, all files are shown
[20:37] <kdeuser56> does anyone here know how to handle apt-get correctly from shellscripts? The process seems to return quite often, e.g. after finishing download, after finishing extracting etc. so if I list some apt-get commands after each other, only half of them get executed ...
[20:38] <kdeuser56> this makes my life really hard, as I run automated scripts that should install me debug packages, that a parse through a for loop, but in the end there are many missing ones ... recking shows the got parsed though ...
[20:39] <maco> kdeuser56: do you know you can install many packages on one line?
[20:39] <kdeuser56> maco: of course, but this is no option when using a for loop ...
[20:39] <kdeuser56> maco: and that has one big disadvantage: if one package is not installable, the whole process fails ...
[20:40] <maco> i dont think ive ever used apt-get in a for-loop, but i guess what i'd do instead is use the for loop to build a list, then pass that to apt-get
[20:40] <kdeuser56> maco, as I said, has the disadvantage of failing if one package is not installable
[20:41] <maco> oh right it doesnt skip
[20:41] <maco> dpkg --set-selections does skip though
[20:41] <yofel> kdeuser56: apt-get shouldn't really return anything until a package is installed
[20:41] <yofel> if anything it asks you a lot of questions
[20:41] <maco> (im trying to think of how i've replicated package lists across rebaselines)
[20:42] <kdeuser56> yofel: but somehow it does not work, it always leaves out packages that are for sure specifiedi in the commands and are installable ...
[20:43] <kdeuser56> yofel: and if I am not mistaken apt returns something after finishing downloading packages ... that might be the reason ...
[20:44] <kdeuser56> is the only rational argument that would explain the siutation: apt-get finished downloading, while the script already passes the next command, but apt-get is not ready yet, so it fails, while the other process finishes
[20:45] <yofel> you can never run apt-get in parallel, but it shouldn't wait after downloading
[20:45] <yofel> unless something failed to download
[20:46] <kdeuser56> yofel: i know i cannot run it in parallel, but the script could already pass another command, although apt-get is still locked ...
[20:46] <kdeuser56> the passed command would simply fail ...
[20:51] <kdeuser56> yofel: In theory I should be able to remove nepomuk-core-runtime right?
[20:51] <yofel> not really, at least not right now
[20:51] <yofel> Riddell: did we have a consens on completely removing nepomuk?
[20:52] <kdeuser56> yofel: it does not work, E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[20:53] <kdeuser56> yofel, has to do with kde-runtime 
[20:54] <kdeuser56> yofel: could nepomuk-core-runtime  and nepomuk-core-data become optional dependencies of kde-runtime ?
[20:55] <kdeuser56> yofel: and making a hard dependency on nepomuk only for applications not ported to baloo yet, like digikam? 
[20:56] <yofel> kde-runtime has the KCM, so either we remove it completely or not at all
[20:59] <kdeuser56> yofel: ah damn, right :-(
[21:12] <shadeslayer_> yay -.-
[21:12] <shadeslayer_> apparently my issue is well documented
[21:12] <shadeslayer_> so its not a single instance of the logic board being faulty
[21:13] <shadeslayer_> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?start=0&tstart=0
[21:24] <shadeslayer_> yofel: can you do me a favor?
[21:24] <shadeslayer_> yofel: plz update kdeconnect
[22:15] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: see /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends search for :da:
[22:15] <Riddell> yofel: no consensus against removing it, why would we keep it?  PMC is the only thing left using it and I doubt it's worth the resources for something that isn't installed by default
[22:17] <yofel> ok, I'll remove it from kde-runtime then, that never got done
[22:17] <yofel> do you know what else needs removing? Does it have to be running for the migrator?
[22:18] <Riddell> no it doesn't, and the migrator switches it off in the config
[22:21] <yofel> ack
[22:38] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski)
[23:42] <Riddell> ScottK: ping, don't forget bug 1291899
[23:43] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov)