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DaveInFLAm I correct in thinking that there is no server version of Kubuntu like there is for Ubuntu?00:35
rwwyep00:39
DaveInFLOk...so let me ask a stupid question. Kubuntu runs fine as a server right? It's just a matter of how I want to partition it?00:40
DaveInFLI mean, I can install the desktop version and it will run fine as a server. Just install what I need?00:40
rwwYep, if you ignore the potential security issues of installing a boatload of graphical software on a server.00:41
DaveInFLOk...thanks...it's mainly for home use and it won't be exposed to the outside world :)00:41
odiumhi I am being asked to make a SE edition of kubuntu is there such a beast?01:20
Roeyhey I want to add something to crontab.  What is the official way of doing it in Kubuntu?01:59
Roeyi.e. do we edit /etc/crontab directly, or what?02:00
rwwcrontab -e02:00
Roeyah02:00
rwwto edit per-user crontab. sudo crontab -u root -e to edit root's02:00
Roeyok02:01
Roeyand must I be root to use this?02:01
Roey/run with sudo I meant.02:01
rwwyes to edit root's, no to edit your own02:03
Roeyso I just want it to run my btrfs snapshotter script every hour on the 01's, say.02:05
Roeyand I want my backup script to run every twelve hours, say.02:06
Roeyrww:  ^02:06
rwwdo either of these things require sudo access when run manually?02:07
Roeyhello here I have a question on crontab -e:  I have a snapshotting script that I want run every hour on the 1's, and a backup script that I want to run every 4 hours.02:08
Roeyah, that'sthe question, reformulated02:08
Roeyyeah they do.02:08
rwwthen sudo crontab -u root -e, and put them without sudo in there02:09
rww"every hour on the 1's" means what? 00:01, 01:01, etc.?02:09
Roeyright02:09
Roeyjust some hourly time02:09
rww1 * * * * my-snapshot command02:10
Roeythat means execute every hour?02:10
rww* */4 * * * my-backup-command02:11
rwwit means execute in the first minute of every hour, yes02:11
rwwsecond one means execute sometime every fourth hour02:11
RoeyI see02:11
Roeywonderful!02:11
rwwWikipedia's page on cron at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron is a pretty good reference for future use, btw02:12
Roeyand where is it customary to put the scripts02:12
Roeyaye, I was reading it02:12
Roeythanks02:12
rwwnot sure on that one.02:12
Roey/root? /usr/site?02:12
Roey/opt?02:12
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antonantonHello guys! Anyone here?08:36
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BluesKaj'Morning folks11:18
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lordievaderGood afternoon.11:45
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CyberTailsHello Folks, My icons dissapeared from my Classic Start Menu and I'm trying to get them back, any ideas?12:21
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BluesKajCyberTails, try going back to the default kicker then back to classic again12:24
CyberTailsnope, same deal12:26
BluesKajCyberTails, did you just upgrade kde12:30
CyberTailsI did an security update if that counts?12:30
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BluesKajit's possible, depends if you have the backports enabled12:34
CyberTailsI'm running 12.04 if that counts12:34
alphacryptyou know gmote?13:06
alphacryptcould it work on kubuntu, get jave exceptions13:06
jarkkoi have a question about kubuntu...today i received 21 updates along them 3.13.0-18 kernel (i have newer kernel in use) this kernel is not in my grub...why it wants to install that? after upgrade it wants to remove 3.13-0-17 (which is not in use either)13:07
BluesKajalphacrypt, do you mean gmotionlive?13:08
alphacryptthat remotecontrolapp13:09
BluesKajfor cameras etc , alphacrypt , if so then it's gmotionlive13:10
alphacryptits called gmote13:10
Picijarkko: what kernel are you running instead and how did you get that installed?13:11
jarkkoPici: 3.13.6 manually, downloaded from ubuntu ppa13:11
BluesKajalphacrypt, that's an Android app13:11
alphacryptyes13:11
jarkkoPici: http://pastebin.com/BHLakxHb13:11
alphacryptbut you need to run the server13:11
BluesKajnot available for kubuntu afaik13:11
alphacryptmaybe13:12
alphacryptyou know alternatives?13:12
Picijarkko: Because you have the linux-image-generic package installed, it will want to pull in a specific kernel package.  The version that you are using shouldn't disappear though, you will just get another entry on your grub menu.13:14
jarkkoPici: well i quess i have deleted something, but not hole kernel then...13:15
akishi all. i am running 12.04 and for file manager i am using dolphin. since last week every time i pluged a usb stick or a sd card dolphin recognised it automatically and placed it under trash icon. suddenly this stopped and every time i am plugging the usb stick i have to choose 'show all entries' in left panel to see usb stick and use it. any idea about a solution on this this issue?13:36
BluesKajakis, right click in the panel, unlock the panel13:38
BluesKajin dolphin13:38
akisok. i did it and i plugged usb stick but it wasnt auto recognized.13:41
akisBluesKaj: i did it and i plugged usb stick but it wasnt auto recognized.13:46
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akisBluesKaj: i fixed it.13:48
akisBluesKaj: i choosed "show all entries" and then i choosed "hide" every entry i dont want to be shown except usb stick and now works!13:49
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alerinaldiHello. I just upgraded to Kubuntu 14.04 and I see the scroll with the touchpad is really too fast. Should I file a bug or is it a known issue?15:33
alerinaldiI searched for it on the web and on Launchpad but noone ever talket about it...15:36
alerinalditalked*15:36
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cornfeedhobohello... so much keeps changing an i have been searching.. is there a unified way to manage services in 13.10??17:44
cornfeedhoboor do i just have to wait for systemd17:44
lordievadercornfeedhobo: There still is upstart, those scripts are in /etc/init. The old style are supported by upstart too and are located in /etc/init.d/17:45
cornfeedhoboi installed opeenssh-server and i have no clue how to disable it as an automatically starting service17:48
cornfeedhoboi never really got used to upstart.. kind of a sysinitV guy17:48
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Comment the "start on" clause in /etc/init/ssh.conf17:48
cornfeedhobooh thanks17:49
cornfeedhobolol17:50
cornfeedhoboi never knew there was a /etc/init dir17:51
cornfeedhobosysinitV used conf.d :(17:51
cornfeedhobothanks again!17:51
Unit193upstart uses /etc/init/, and can use the init.d scripts too.17:51
hyhythhello ubuntu users18:03
lordievaderHey hyhyth18:03
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__RoeyHello.  How do I fix this error:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/962604418:17
__Roeyi.e. set my MTA agent18:17
lordievader__Roey: This might solve your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222512/cron-info-no-mta-installed-discarding-output-error-in-the-syslog18:19
__Roeylordievader:  thank you!18:41
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lordievader__Roey: No problem, happy upstarting (for as long as it will last)18:41
__Roeylordievader:  so just installing postfix will fix that error?  I tried before with installing exim4 but the error persisted.18:44
lordievaderOhh I'm mixing up thing, sorry about upstart..18:45
lordievader__Roey: Yes, following the explanation on the page, cron misses an Mail Transfer Agent and therefore discards the message.18:46
__Roeyokay18:48
__Roeybut this was also the situation when I with installinx exim this morning18:48
__Roeybut okay.18:48
__Roeylordievader:  do you mess ariound with btrfs send/receive much?18:49
lordievader__Roey: Nope, I use lvm+ext418:49
__Roeylordievader:  ahh okay, gotcha18:49
__Roeylordievader:  as I said before, thanks a lot for your help!18:49
lordievader:)18:50
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douglafternoon19:14
lordievaderHey dougl, how are you doing?19:16
dougllordievader, better now I am hangin with you guys...19:17
lordievaderHehe ;)19:17
douglnothing to learn here today, all seems pretty quiet19:18
douglyou doing well?19:18
lordievaderJup, doing good here :) Pretty quiet today, indeed.19:20
ozbrkhi guys19:35
ozbrkI need help a bit19:35
ozbrkthere are multiple problems in here19:35
ozbrkfirst of all is a common issue called screen tearing I have a ati radeon hd 580019:35
ozbrkI can't install any drivers drivers breakes the opengş19:36
ozbrkopengl*19:36
douglozbrk, how attached are you to the ati?19:42
ozbrkwhat ?19:42
dougldo you love ati more than nvidia?19:43
ozbrkthat's the only graphich card that I have why ?19:43
douglI am not an ati fan because they have never behaved well with linux... that is why I asked - I would like to see you get an nvidia card and there are two driver avenues you could use there...19:44
douglbut tearing has always been an issue for me19:45
lordievaderozbrk: What driver are you currently running?19:45
ozbrkopen19:45
lordievaderozbrk: The 'radeon' one?19:45
ozbrkI don't know accutally19:45
* dougl is glad to see lordievader is still here.19:46
ozbrkI reinstalled all xcof19:46
BluesKajdougl, ati linux drivers were great up until 4-5 yrs ago then after amd boiught the company linux support has suffered19:46
lordievaderozbrk: Could you pastebin "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"19:46
ozbrkooook hang on a sec.19:46
lordievader!info fglrx19:46
ubottufglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:13.101-0ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 48023 kB, installed size 140013 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:46
ozbrkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7115981/19:47
douglBluesKaj, how are you - good trivia amd, lets just not go there I am intel now19:47
ozbrkit says it is radeon driver19:47
ozbrkdougl: you are a funny guy aren't you :)19:47
rwwyes hello, ATI user here. radeon works fine for me, and fglrx does too.19:47
ikoniait will really depend on your card and your expectations to define "does it work"19:48
BluesKajrww, yes ati drivers are hit and miss on linux , depends on the HW19:48
lordievaderozbrk: Hmm this might explain it [1] doesn't list the HD 5830 as supported for the 13.101 driver <- the one Saucy ships: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7115981/forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=37878519:48
rwwBluesKaj: so are nvidia ones, if you care at all about software freedom19:48
ozbrkUbuntu Pastebin  The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.  Return to the Pastebin19:49
ozbrkwhatever what should I do then19:49
lordievaderozbrk: Err that should be: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=37878519:49
BluesKajrww, nvidia has the linux drivers prettywell supported, except for thier very hi-end cards19:49
rwwBluesKaj: using the free-software driver? if so, that contradicts quite a lot of other people I've talked to, but I am pleased about the improvement.19:50
rwwanyways. the silly "{nvidia, amd} is bad, go buy {amd, nvidia}" messages are silly on either side of the aisle, is my point. It depends on what you get and what your priorities are.19:50
BluesKajrww, well that's been my experience19:50
ikoniarww: you're right, the novau stuff is %50/%50 - again depends on your card and expectations like ati19:51
ozbrkhey lordiveader19:51
ozbrkthanks for the help but19:51
ozbrkhttp://support.amd.com/en-us/download/incomplete    :/19:51
lordievaderozbrk: You might try installing a newer version of the fglrx driver manually, according to the AMD website 13.12 supports the HD5000 series. I wonder if they said that for 13.6 too: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_6419:51
rww(and arguing that one is better than the other is utterly pointless when -- like now -- the user already bought a graphics card)19:51
douglozbrk, they say I am a character in the flesh but here I try to be serious cuz you can't always tell when I am smiling or grinning19:52
ikoniadougl: what has that got to do with kubuntu ?19:52
ozbrkdougl: real deal philosophic topic19:52
ozbrk''I went I saw  I conquered''19:53
douglikonia, I try to be sincere and not joking so I don't upset the channel... and I wanted ozbrk to understand in case I offended him when we were discussing our nvidia/ati opinions19:54
ikonia????19:54
ozbrkhey guys calm down I haven't read all of the conversations19:55
ozbrkwhats going on19:55
douglikonia does not like how wordy I am - does it show?19:55
fkmHi there. What VNC server would you recommend, if I want to be able to: a) control the currently running session b) only from the local network c) without entering a password or manually approving connections from the target machine and d) running it as a daemon at startup so it doesn't get in the way and I don't have to remember starting it before I can use it.20:29
fkmvnc4server, x11vnc, or something else?20:30
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spachtelhi21:19
pramitihello, while installing kdepim, from following 3 commnds.. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kdepim21:31
pramitinow i am getting error..http://fpaste.org/86529/39517786/21:31
pramitihttp://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/ i am gettting this error when doing apt dist-upgrade21:35
shadeslayer_yofel: ^^ in case you're around since I cant debug from a phone :p21:35
flemshola21:52
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pramitii am getting this error.. any help http://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/22:20
pramitiany help if there is corrupt package installation ? how to recover ?22:33
pramitii have tried all the ways.. but kdelibs package installation corrupt.. i am stuck badly22:35
pramitihttp://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/ getting this error22:37
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yofelpramiti: could you please pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelibs5-dev' - it looks like you upgraded to the backports ppa, removed it and now you're trying to install kdelibs5-dev23:41
pramitiyofel: i tried again and kdepim is installled now.. i manually remove the packages.. sudo dpkg --force-all --remove kdelib5-dev23:43
pramitiand then sudo apt-get install kdepim23:43
yofelhm ok, as long as it works..23:43
pramitiyofel : thanxs anyways :)23:44
pramitiyofel: can u tell me do i have to build baloo also ?23:48
yofelbaloo will be part of 4.13, it's not part of 4.1223:51
pramitiyofel: i want to develop kmail and fix bugs23:51
pramitiso i need to know baloo alsoo23:51
yofelwe have beta2 test packages for trusty so far, backports will be there around RC maybe23:52
pramitialso i have installed kdepim.. but i cant find the code.. to start debugging23:52
valoriepramiti: have you investigated Project Neon?23:53
valorie#project-neon for more info in the /topic23:53
yofelyou can get the source for the version you have installed with 'apt-get source kdepim'23:55
yofelthe upstream source is at http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdepim.git23:55
yofeldaily builds are provided by neon ^, but not for precise23:55
FirestarterI accidentally deleted the volume widget on my taskbar and can't seem to get it back.  I was able to add some that I needed but can't find the volume.23:56
pramitiohh i didnt knew about neon.. i wanted to work on kmail.. so i installed kdepim.. i just started with kde 4 days back23:56
valorieprecise?23:57
valoriedevels usually run a current version23:57
pramitiactually i wanted to start with gsoc: and wanted to work on Project: Enhanced Searching in KMail.. this is not suitable for beginners ?23:58
ikoniagsoc is not an "introduction" topic23:59
ikoniaand is not part of the ubuntu kenel by default23:59
pramitii am just using ubuntu distro.. i installed kmail in ubuntu to start working with it23:59

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