[00:35] Am I correct in thinking that there is no server version of Kubuntu like there is for Ubuntu? [00:39] yep [00:40] Ok...so let me ask a stupid question. Kubuntu runs fine as a server right? It's just a matter of how I want to partition it? [00:40] I mean, I can install the desktop version and it will run fine as a server. Just install what I need? [00:41] Yep, if you ignore the potential security issues of installing a boatload of graphical software on a server. [00:41] Ok...thanks...it's mainly for home use and it won't be exposed to the outside world :) [01:20] hi I am being asked to make a SE edition of kubuntu is there such a beast? [01:59] hey I want to add something to crontab. What is the official way of doing it in Kubuntu? [02:00] i.e. do we edit /etc/crontab directly, or what? [02:00] crontab -e [02:00] ah [02:00] to edit per-user crontab. sudo crontab -u root -e to edit root's [02:01] ok [02:01] and must I be root to use this? [02:01] /run with sudo I meant. [02:03] yes to edit root's, no to edit your own [02:05] so I just want it to run my btrfs snapshotter script every hour on the 01's, say. [02:06] and I want my backup script to run every twelve hours, say. [02:06] rww: ^ [02:07] do either of these things require sudo access when run manually? [02:08] hello here I have a question on crontab -e: I have a snapshotting script that I want run every hour on the 1's, and a backup script that I want to run every 4 hours. [02:08] ah, that'sthe question, reformulated [02:08] yeah they do. [02:09] then sudo crontab -u root -e, and put them without sudo in there [02:09] "every hour on the 1's" means what? 00:01, 01:01, etc.? [02:09] right [02:09] just some hourly time [02:10] 1 * * * * my-snapshot command [02:10] that means execute every hour? [02:11] * */4 * * * my-backup-command [02:11] it means execute in the first minute of every hour, yes [02:11] second one means execute sometime every fourth hour [02:11] I see [02:11] wonderful! [02:12] Wikipedia's page on cron at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron is a pretty good reference for future use, btw [02:12] and where is it customary to put the scripts [02:12] aye, I was reading it [02:12] thanks [02:12] not sure on that one. [02:12] /root? /usr/site? [02:12] /opt? === calin is now known as crucerucalin === michael__ is now known as justmichael === calin is now known as crucerucalin === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps === rahul is now known as Guest64256 === Guest64256 is now known as rahul__ === campr_ is now known as campr === bumblebee is now known as Guest44161 === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [08:36] Hello guys! Anyone here? === calin is now known as crucerucalin [11:18] 'Morning folks === bumblebee is now known as Guest20584 [11:45] Good afternoon. === pinkiepie is now known as CyberTails [12:21] Hello Folks, My icons dissapeared from my Classic Start Menu and I'm trying to get them back, any ideas? === rani is now known as hhd99 [12:24] CyberTails, try going back to the default kicker then back to classic again [12:26] nope, same deal [12:30] CyberTails, did you just upgrade kde [12:30] I did an security update if that counts? === kubuntu is now known as Guest45837 [12:34] it's possible, depends if you have the backports enabled [12:34] I'm running 12.04 if that counts [13:06] you know gmote? [13:06] could it work on kubuntu, get jave exceptions [13:07] i have a question about kubuntu...today i received 21 updates along them 3.13.0-18 kernel (i have newer kernel in use) this kernel is not in my grub...why it wants to install that? after upgrade it wants to remove 3.13-0-17 (which is not in use either) [13:08] alphacrypt, do you mean gmotionlive? [13:09] that remotecontrolapp [13:10] for cameras etc , alphacrypt , if so then it's gmotionlive [13:10] its called gmote [13:11] jarkko: what kernel are you running instead and how did you get that installed? [13:11] Pici: 3.13.6 manually, downloaded from ubuntu ppa [13:11] alphacrypt, that's an Android app [13:11] yes [13:11] Pici: http://pastebin.com/BHLakxHb [13:11] but you need to run the server [13:11] not available for kubuntu afaik [13:12] maybe [13:12] you know alternatives? [13:14] jarkko: Because you have the linux-image-generic package installed, it will want to pull in a specific kernel package. The version that you are using shouldn't disappear though, you will just get another entry on your grub menu. [13:15] Pici: well i quess i have deleted something, but not hole kernel then... [13:36] hi all. i am running 12.04 and for file manager i am using dolphin. since last week every time i pluged a usb stick or a sd card dolphin recognised it automatically and placed it under trash icon. suddenly this stopped and every time i am plugging the usb stick i have to choose 'show all entries' in left panel to see usb stick and use it. any idea about a solution on this this issue? [13:38] akis, right click in the panel, unlock the panel [13:38] in dolphin [13:41] ok. i did it and i plugged usb stick but it wasnt auto recognized. [13:46] BluesKaj: i did it and i plugged usb stick but it wasnt auto recognized. === bumblebee is now known as Guest36017 [13:48] BluesKaj: i fixed it. [13:49] BluesKaj: i choosed "show all entries" and then i choosed "hide" every entry i dont want to be shown except usb stick and now works! === calin is now known as crucerucalin [15:33] Hello. I just upgraded to Kubuntu 14.04 and I see the scroll with the touchpad is really too fast. Should I file a bug or is it a known issue? [15:36] I searched for it on the web and on Launchpad but noone ever talket about it... [15:36] talked* === sujith_h_ is now known as sujith === sujith is now known as sujith_home [17:44] hello... so much keeps changing an i have been searching.. is there a unified way to manage services in 13.10?? [17:44] or do i just have to wait for systemd [17:45] cornfeedhobo: There still is upstart, those scripts are in /etc/init. The old style are supported by upstart too and are located in /etc/init.d/ [17:48] i installed opeenssh-server and i have no clue how to disable it as an automatically starting service [17:48] i never really got used to upstart.. kind of a sysinitV guy [17:48] cornfeedhobo: Comment the "start on" clause in /etc/init/ssh.conf [17:49] oh thanks [17:50] lol [17:51] i never knew there was a /etc/init dir [17:51] sysinitV used conf.d :( [17:51] thanks again! [17:51] upstart uses /etc/init/, and can use the init.d scripts too. [18:03] hello ubuntu users [18:03] Hey hyhyth === kubuntu is now known as Guest19194 [18:17] <__Roey> Hello. How do I fix this error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9626044 [18:17] <__Roey> i.e. set my MTA agent [18:19] __Roey: This might solve your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222512/cron-info-no-mta-installed-discarding-output-error-in-the-syslog [18:41] <__Roey> lordievader: thank you! === calin is now known as crucerucalin [18:41] __Roey: No problem, happy upstarting (for as long as it will last) [18:44] <__Roey> lordievader: so just installing postfix will fix that error? I tried before with installing exim4 but the error persisted. [18:45] Ohh I'm mixing up thing, sorry about upstart.. [18:46] __Roey: Yes, following the explanation on the page, cron misses an Mail Transfer Agent and therefore discards the message. [18:48] <__Roey> okay [18:48] <__Roey> but this was also the situation when I with installinx exim this morning [18:48] <__Roey> but okay. [18:49] <__Roey> lordievader: do you mess ariound with btrfs send/receive much? [18:49] __Roey: Nope, I use lvm+ext4 [18:49] <__Roey> lordievader: ahh okay, gotcha [18:49] <__Roey> lordievader: as I said before, thanks a lot for your help! [18:50] :) === claudiu is now known as Guest25283 [19:14] afternoon [19:16] Hey dougl, how are you doing? [19:17] lordievader, better now I am hangin with you guys... [19:17] Hehe ;) [19:18] nothing to learn here today, all seems pretty quiet [19:18] you doing well? [19:20] Jup, doing good here :) Pretty quiet today, indeed. [19:35] hi guys [19:35] I need help a bit [19:35] there are multiple problems in here [19:35] first of all is a common issue called screen tearing I have a ati radeon hd 5800 [19:36] I can't install any drivers drivers breakes the opengş [19:36] opengl* [19:42] ozbrk, how attached are you to the ati? [19:42] what ? [19:43] do you love ati more than nvidia? [19:43] that's the only graphich card that I have why ? [19:44] I am not an ati fan because they have never behaved well with linux... that is why I asked - I would like to see you get an nvidia card and there are two driver avenues you could use there... [19:45] but tearing has always been an issue for me [19:45] ozbrk: What driver are you currently running? [19:45] open [19:45] ozbrk: The 'radeon' one? [19:45] I don't know accutally [19:46] * dougl is glad to see lordievader is still here. [19:46] I reinstalled all xcof [19:46] dougl, ati linux drivers were great up until 4-5 yrs ago then after amd boiught the company linux support has suffered [19:46] ozbrk: Could you pastebin "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA" [19:46] ooook hang on a sec. [19:46] !info fglrx [19:46] fglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:13.101-0ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 48023 kB, installed size 140013 kB (Only available for amd64; i386) [19:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7115981/ [19:47] BluesKaj, how are you - good trivia amd, lets just not go there I am intel now [19:47] it says it is radeon driver [19:47] dougl: you are a funny guy aren't you :) [19:47] yes hello, ATI user here. radeon works fine for me, and fglrx does too. [19:48] it will really depend on your card and your expectations to define "does it work" [19:48] rww, yes ati drivers are hit and miss on linux , depends on the HW [19:48] ozbrk: Hmm this might explain it [1] doesn't list the HD 5830 as supported for the 13.101 driver <- the one Saucy ships: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7115981/forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378785 [19:48] BluesKaj: so are nvidia ones, if you care at all about software freedom [19:49] Ubuntu Pastebin The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. Return to the Pastebin [19:49] whatever what should I do then [19:49] ozbrk: Err that should be: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378785 [19:49] rww, nvidia has the linux drivers prettywell supported, except for thier very hi-end cards [19:50] BluesKaj: using the free-software driver? if so, that contradicts quite a lot of other people I've talked to, but I am pleased about the improvement. [19:50] anyways. the silly "{nvidia, amd} is bad, go buy {amd, nvidia}" messages are silly on either side of the aisle, is my point. It depends on what you get and what your priorities are. [19:50] rww, well that's been my experience [19:51] rww: you're right, the novau stuff is %50/%50 - again depends on your card and expectations like ati [19:51] hey lordiveader [19:51] thanks for the help but [19:51] http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/incomplete :/ [19:51] ozbrk: You might try installing a newer version of the fglrx driver manually, according to the AMD website 13.12 supports the HD5000 series. I wonder if they said that for 13.6 too: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64 [19:51] (and arguing that one is better than the other is utterly pointless when -- like now -- the user already bought a graphics card) [19:52] ozbrk, they say I am a character in the flesh but here I try to be serious cuz you can't always tell when I am smiling or grinning [19:52] dougl: what has that got to do with kubuntu ? [19:52] dougl: real deal philosophic topic [19:53] ''I went I saw I conquered'' [19:54] ikonia, I try to be sincere and not joking so I don't upset the channel... and I wanted ozbrk to understand in case I offended him when we were discussing our nvidia/ati opinions [19:54] ???? [19:55] hey guys calm down I haven't read all of the conversations [19:55] whats going on [19:55] ikonia does not like how wordy I am - does it show? [20:29] Hi there. What VNC server would you recommend, if I want to be able to: a) control the currently running session b) only from the local network c) without entering a password or manually approving connections from the target machine and d) running it as a daemon at startup so it doesn't get in the way and I don't have to remember starting it before I can use it. [20:30] vnc4server, x11vnc, or something else? === bumblebee is now known as Guest6854 [21:19] hi [21:31] hello, while installing kdepim, from following 3 commnds.. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kdepim [21:31] now i am getting error..http://fpaste.org/86529/39517786/ [21:35] http://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/ i am gettting this error when doing apt dist-upgrade [21:35] yofel: ^^ in case you're around since I cant debug from a phone :p [21:52] hola === claudiu is now known as Guest45122 === marc-v is now known as marc-v_ [22:20] i am getting this error.. any help http://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/ [22:33] any help if there is corrupt package installation ? how to recover ? [22:35] i have tried all the ways.. but kdelibs package installation corrupt.. i am stuck badly [22:37] http://fpaste.org/86532/51783561/ getting this error === soee_ is now known as soee === emma__ is now known as emma [23:41] pramiti: could you please pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelibs5-dev' - it looks like you upgraded to the backports ppa, removed it and now you're trying to install kdelibs5-dev [23:43] yofel: i tried again and kdepim is installled now.. i manually remove the packages.. sudo dpkg --force-all --remove kdelib5-dev [23:43] and then sudo apt-get install kdepim [23:43] hm ok, as long as it works.. [23:44] yofel : thanxs anyways :) [23:48] yofel: can u tell me do i have to build baloo also ? [23:51] baloo will be part of 4.13, it's not part of 4.12 [23:51] yofel: i want to develop kmail and fix bugs [23:51] so i need to know baloo alsoo [23:52] we have beta2 test packages for trusty so far, backports will be there around RC maybe [23:52] also i have installed kdepim.. but i cant find the code.. to start debugging [23:53] pramiti: have you investigated Project Neon? [23:53] #project-neon for more info in the /topic [23:55] you can get the source for the version you have installed with 'apt-get source kdepim' [23:55] the upstream source is at http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdepim.git [23:55] daily builds are provided by neon ^, but not for precise [23:56] I accidentally deleted the volume widget on my taskbar and can't seem to get it back. I was able to add some that I needed but can't find the volume. [23:56] ohh i didnt knew about neon.. i wanted to work on kmail.. so i installed kdepim.. i just started with kde 4 days back [23:57] precise? [23:57] devels usually run a current version [23:58] actually i wanted to start with gsoc: and wanted to work on Project: Enhanced Searching in KMail.. this is not suitable for beginners ? [23:59] gsoc is not an "introduction" topic [23:59] and is not part of the ubuntu kenel by default [23:59] i am just using ubuntu distro.. i installed kmail in ubuntu to start working with it