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Kiloshi nlsthzn and others05:03
nlsthznmorning05:05
nuvolario/ hi nlsthzn, oom Kilos 05:23
nlsthznalo05:23
Kiloslo nuvolari 05:23
Kiloshi bduk1 05:30
bduk1More Kilos  en almal05:32
magespawngood morning05:32
Kiloshi magespawn 05:35
magespawndid you get much rain last night/05:36
magespawn?05:38
Kilosnot a drop05:40
bduk134 ml in Rayton yesterday05:44
bduk1mm05:44
magespawnwe got some here last night, very  heavy but did not last long05:44
Kiloswe just had heavy mist last 2 mornings, cant see anything 200 metres away and everything sopping wet05:47
Kilosand its getting cold again05:47
magespawnwell at least there is some moisture around05:48
magespawnwinter is coming05:48
Kilosyeah05:48
bduk1They say 2 months after the mist the frost comes05:48
magespawnnever use superglue on your shoes when you are wearing them05:49
nlsthzn>.<05:50
Kilosrofl05:50
magespawnindeed05:51
Kilosyou can get superglue disolving stuff05:51
magespawnyup and how to apply it to the foot inside the shoe?05:51
Kiloseish05:51
magespawnanyway bbl, got some outside work to do today05:52
Kilossis says when feet sweat it comes lose05:52
Kilosthen sandpapewr inside of shoe to get it smooth again05:53
Kilosshe speaks from experience05:53
Kiloshaha05:53
jabberwocky93morning all05:56
Spekkomorning all05:56
SpekkoMaaz: Coffee on05:56
* Maaz flips the salt-timer05:56
Kiloshi jabberwocky93 Spekko 05:56
KilosMaaz coffee please05:56
MaazKilos: Yessir05:56
jabberwocky93more Kilos :)05:59
MaazCoffee's ready for Spekko and Kilos!06:00
KilosMaaz dankie man06:00
MaazGroot plesier my vriend06:00
SpekkoThank you Maaz06:01
jabberwocky93Map of package dependencies in the Ubuntu Software Center http://i.imgur.com/8yHC8.jpg (dont have any references)06:01
Kiloslol WAYTTD06:04
Kiloshi Private_User 06:32
Private_Usermorning all06:32
Private_Userhi Kilos06:33
magespawnjabberwocky93, very cool map, amazing how complex it is, reminds me of a map of the brain or of the galaxy07:40
magespawnthanks for the tip Kilos, also your skin eventually dies and it will come lose07:41
Golynxo/07:41
Golynxskin ?07:41
Kiloslol07:42
Kiloshi Golynx he superglue his shoe while foot was inside07:42
Golynxoh lol07:42
Golynxi thought it was an ubuntu skin, or when your underground after being burried the skin comes loose07:44
Kiloslol07:44
Golynxoh hi Kilos07:45
Kiloshaha07:45
Golynx:D07:45
Golynxi like how facebook wana put a Skype like service into WhatsApp. Then you will see the big babies MTN and Vodacom crying even more louder lol07:50
magespawnhi Golynx 07:55
magespawnmy blond moment for the week07:55
Golynxhi magespawn07:55
Golynxlol all good07:55
Golynxwe're all blond deep down07:56
magespawnif you have the know how you can set up an asterisk server and make free calls for ever anyway, just need data07:56
Golynxyeah thats true, but too much work lol 07:58
GolynxWhatsApp got a massive userbase, so having something like that will surely hit the mobile operators hard07:59
Golynxloss in voice revenue from overseas players is something they cannot stop08:00
Golynxso they're days of being the fat lazy cats is coming to an end, and they need to change they're business models 08:02
ThatGraemeGuymorning peoples08:05
Golynxmagespawn: i'm gonna try that someday, seems like a good little private project to take on08:06
charlgood morning08:07
charlMaaz: coffee on08:07
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:07
charlhi magespawn 08:07
Golynxhi ThatGraemeGuy08:07
Golynxhi charl08:07
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy charl 08:07
charlhi Golynx 08:07
charlhi Kilos 08:07
magespawnit is realtively simple and you don't need the expensive equipment if you are not going going to take pots or cell calls08:08
magespawnhi charl ThatGraemeGuy 08:08
magespawnrelatively 08:09
magespawni have not worked out how to route incoming calls to a cell number through the asterisk yet08:09
Golynxmagespawn: yeah, i think .amr files are the smallest soound files but with the least quality to convert the voice to before sending it08:10
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:11
Golynxwhy need a cell number 08:11
magespawni also not sure how the routing would work if you had a paid for sip account08:11
magespawnfor people to call you, i am not sure how the routing would work to your asterisk from the cell network08:12
Kiloswhatever happened to that guy that said he was an asterisk expert08:12
Golynxlol the whole point is to bypass the cell networks 08:12
magespawnfor example, people who do not have an account on your server, how would they call you?08:13
magespawnthat is why skype to skype is free but all the other call you pay for08:13
charlMaaz: thanks08:14
Maazcharl: Okay :-)08:14
magespawnthen you start getting into interconnect rates, and nobody would want to pair with you if you have a low number of users08:14
charlmagespawn: i'm curious, how's federation looking with asterisk at the moment08:15
charlmagespawn: with lync you can federate with skype, yahoo etc and with other lync users on other networks08:15
Golynxthey will have usernames that you either type in or click on . That will be send to the server and the server sends it to the other user if his app is on a connection is made and kept open . Thats how i think it should work atleast08:15
charlmagespawn: in other words, can you call another asterisk user or a lync user through the internet?08:16
magespawncharl as long as the routing between the asterisk servers is setup08:17
magespawnstatic ip or dyn dns something like that08:17
charlmagespawn: but then you have to configure the routing between each of the asterisk servers manually? that's not so good08:17
charlmagespawn: you should have all of that work transparently just like with lync08:17
Golynxthis is alot more work then it appears to be lol08:18
magespawni am still learning about asterisk and what is the best way for things to work08:18
Golynxi will rather make use of html5 Websockets with a Nodejs server to do something like this.08:19
charllync does it like this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204825.aspx and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205134.aspx08:19
charlmagespawn: sorry for the difficult questions, i'm just asking because i'm curious :)08:19
charlGolynx: they are making use of xmpp federation, which in its own is a good standard08:20
magespawnbut for example, internally my asterisk has a static ip of say 192.168.1.254 but it is behind a nat router so i would need a dyndns for the external ip then set the port routing to find the asterisk on my internal network08:20
charlmagespawn: you might need to do something dns-related too (in the case of lync) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj618369.aspx08:22
charlif you can do something similar with asterisk it would be really great08:22
charlooh this is very interesting http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/2013/08/21/series-exchange-2013-and-lync-2013-integration-with-asterisknow-pbx-pt-1.aspx08:23
magespawnbut if you had your asterisk on a vps then the client just has to connect to that either by ip or address08:24
charlmagespawn: if the ip is external to your network and you're using NAT, you would need to find a way to do NAT traversal though ?08:24
magespawnalso if the asterisk is on my private network then the connection is dependant on my adsl speed and connection08:25
charlyeah but SIP is only for session initiation, so the actual calls should go directly between the endpoints08:26
charlif you do a call on your internal network it shouldn't make use of your dsl modem08:26
magespawnusing a dynamic dns updater from inside my network would allow you to set a static web address to a changing ip08:26
charlyeah that's hairy, you could try it though08:26
charla friend of mine has it set up on his cable connection08:26
charlcan't you get a static ip on dsl ?08:27
magespawncharl you can but costs extra08:27
charlbah :(08:27
charlon my cable provider you can only get a static ip on a "business" connection and that's a whole different package08:27
charli looked at it but they required the signing of a year contract so i backed off and went with the home option instead08:27
magespawnthe idea would be to have an asterisk server at each of the hotels in the group to handle incoming calls for each hotel and have the asterisk route all internal calls through the internet between the various asterisk servers08:29
charlah you can do that through a VPN then you can encrypt the traffic too08:30
magespawnmaybe set up a vpn through a vps on the net to handle that traffic08:30
charlthis series is really interesting: http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/tags/asterisknow/08:30
charli love the fact that lync uses sip/simple as well08:30
charlhmm, i would definitely look at getting static ips though, even if it costs a little extra08:31
charlputting all of that traffic via a vps is also going to cost money08:31
charland running vpn's over dynamic ips will just end up creating a potential security risk08:31
magespawnyup lots of things to consider and make sure that it is stable and secure08:32
charlopenvpn is gold though, it's highly secure08:32
charlonce you got that set up, you're sorted08:33
charlok i'm off, need to get some work done, ttyl all08:33
Squirmeveryone here still alive?08:35
SquirmMaaz: coffee on08:35
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:35
SquirmMaaz: large08:36
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm08:36
magespawnalso as far as i know asterisk and asteriskNOW are not exactly the same thing, but i stand under correction there08:36
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!08:39
magespawnhi Squirm 09:00
Golynxhi maiatoday09:01
Golynxhi Private_User09:01
Golynxhi Squirm09:01
maiatodayhi Golynx 09:01
Private_Userhi Golynx09:02
Kiloshiya maiatoday 09:02
maiatodayhi Kilos 09:02
magespawnKilos, what is the best way to make a copy of your system for re-installing?09:24
Kilosoh my09:24
Kiloswas remastersys09:24
Kiloswhat about cloning09:24
Kilosor that dd command09:24
magespawnhmm, have they not carried on with remastersys?09:25
Kilospeeps said it stopped but i havent checked09:27
Kiloshi superfly 10:06
superflyhi Kilos10:07
Golynxhi superfly10:07
Golynxdid my first hello-world app with Flask on Sunday. I will play around with it some more, its great10:08
superflycool10:09
superflyand it's not braindead like PHP10:09
Golynxlol10:09
Golynxbut a bit confusing10:09
Golynxi was trying to make a guestbook app from the same directory as the hello-world app, but failed10:10
Golynxseems like it has to be setup at the wsgi file as root url or something10:11
Kiloshi Vince-0 10:14
Kiloshi psyatw 10:41
psyatwhi Kilos 10:41
psyatwhi magespawn 10:41
psyatwhi Private_User 10:41
magespawnhi psyatw 10:42
Golynxhi psyatw10:42
Private_Userhi psyatw10:42
psyatwhi Golynx 10:42
magespawnin and out like a yoyo today10:42
Kilosoh well10:45
Private_Userthats what she said...10:46
Private_UserLOL10:46
Kiloshehe10:47
Private_Userah damn said it too late10:49
Private_User:p10:49
Kiloshi liamT 10:50
liamTgreetings10:51
Vince-0!12:13
Vince-0whats hapanan in IRC12:13
liamTnot alot it seems12:25
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Kiloshi Iraeeu 15:14
Kiloscharl bot again?15:14
Kilospings this one15:15
Kilos-hi Golynx 16:19
Golynxhi Kilos-16:20
Private_Userevening17:23
charlhi Private_User 17:39
charlgood evening all17:39
charlKilos: doesn't look like a bot17:40
Kilosshame17:40
Kilosand i ctcp pinged him17:40
charldid you get a response ?17:41
Kilosyes 17:41
charlah no then it doesn't conform to the "profile" that was posted on github17:41
Kilosquick too17:41
charlhow's it going?17:41
charlotherwise :)17:41
Kilosoh well, peeps will learn to say hi when they are greeted17:42
Kilosgood ty17:42
Kilosand you?17:42
charli'm doing well, got some cool projects going right now17:42
charli'm happy that i can ditch jdeveloper and eclipse and use vim again for all my development17:42
Kilosmy buntu forgot how to automount usb goodies17:42
charlin i3 it never automounts anything in any case17:43
charli just do it manually17:43
charli actually managed to convert one of my colleagues into also using i3, he was very impressed17:43
charlthe speed, simplicity, how nice it is to launch applications, etc17:44
Kilosya i use diskutility and they show mounted there but after unmount and then mount buttons pressed then they show17:44
Kiloswhats i3 again?17:44
charlit's a modern tiling window manager17:44
charlhttp://i3wm.org/17:44
Private_Userhi charl17:45
charlbut it's really clean and neat compared to the other implementations i've seen17:45
charland it's extremely highly configurable except that the default configuration is fine for most users17:45
charlso it's (almost) perfect for many seasoned linux users :)17:45
Kiloscode peeps ya17:47
Kilosi like my mouse17:47
Kilosdont believe in wasting money17:47
Kilosbought mouse so it gotta work17:47
charllol17:48
Kilosvim was hard work for me17:49
Kilosbut i managed the hello world part17:49
charlbut it does pay off, afaik vim is still one of the most versatile editors available today17:50
charlthere is practically nothing it either can't do or can't be made to do with some addons17:50
Kilosya man but i dont need to edit much and nano works well when i must17:51
charlyeah then it doesn't matter17:52
charlthere are plenty good editors17:52
charli used to use nano myself (or pico before that on old redhat systems)17:53
Kilosnano is lekker for me17:55
charlit can be nasty without the -w switch though17:56
charlline wrapping issues17:56
charlgot bitten by that a few times :D17:57
Kilosai!17:57
Kiloshaha Golynx the future is so bright you gotta wear shades18:00
Kilos8)18:01
Golynxlol18:01
Golynxwhere is the sun shining so bright Kilos18:02
Kilosyay i even get the keys to use for smileys on konversation18:02
Kilosyou the one with shades on18:02
Golynxoh cool 8) 18:03
KilosGolynx has joined this channel (~jarrydlyn@197.111.223.228).18:04
Golynxhmm  :| 18:05
Kilosthat doesnt show as a recognized emoticon/smiley thing18:08
Kilostext only18:08
Golynxits an (indifferent) smiley on my client18:09
Kiloslol18:10
Kilosmaybe i gotta put some plugin or something to see then all but too much work18:10
Golynxlike :/  or :\  smiley18:10
Kilosya dont see those18:10
Golynxme neither lol18:11
Golynxi only got 11 smileys to choose from ,  :)  :(  ;)  :o  :D  8-)  :|  :'(  :@  :p  '< 18:12
Kilosoh with konversation i gotta remember the keys thats why a hardly ever use smileys18:14
Golynxbut yeah irc clients differ on what smiley codes they support18:14
Kilosxchat doesnt show anything but text18:14
Golynxlol18:14
Golynxthey should have a dropdown list of smileys 18:15
Golynxwith images, makes no sense to only show  text for a full irc client18:15
Kilos(c)18:15
Kiloshaha18:15
Kiloson mxit that shows chillies18:15
Kilos(C)18:15
Kilosthats shoulda been a bigger cup18:16
Golynxlol18:16
Golynxand (H) for heart18:16
Kilos<318:16
Kilos(H)18:17
Golynxyeah that <3 fb uses too18:17
Kilosya cap h tween brackets18:17
Kilosfb?18:17
Golynxbut its too many variations though to make a universal list that all chat apps should use18:18
Golynxfacebook18:18
charlskype also has a huge list18:20
Kilostoo much work smileys18:20
Kilosneed only to remember <3 for my daughter18:21
Golynxa smiley is just a template that links to an image, its kinda easy to make 18:21
Golynxwhen are you meeting her Kilos18:23
Kilosno man i remember 3 now so thats enough18:23
Kiloswill never have the money to go so far18:23
Kilosbut we chat daily and she sends me all her completed commisions and so on18:23
Golynxoh thats good, she wants her dad to know she's living her dream18:25
Golynxnever loose hope though, maybe someday you will meet18:25
Kilosand i get every song she records18:25
Golynxnice, i will like to hear some of her songs someday aswell18:27
kbmonkeyhi hi - who's talking about me hmmm?18:27
* kbmonkey 's ears burns18:27
Kiloshi kbmonkey 18:27
Kilosshe sings a dream Golynx ask the guys18:27
Golynxhi kbmonkey18:28
Golynxi bet she does Kilos :)18:28
Kilosno one said anything bout you kbmonkey 18:28
Golynxi always wanted to draw like that , but my hand is not that steady18:29
Kilosif someone can rip her idols audition for you you will hear the best18:29
Kilosxfactor audtition18:29
Kilosthe video is lotsa data18:29
kbmonkeyI saw my away log mentioned me last night Kilos ;)18:30
Kilosmaybe some clever oke can rip the audio out of it18:30
Kilosoh so long ago kbmonkey  sjoe18:30
Golynxits okay Kilos i take your word for it ;)18:30
Kiloskbmonkey you clever how do you rip audio out of a video file18:31
kbmonkeyffmpeg!18:32
kbmonkeyit is amazing18:32
Kilosfrom cli?18:32
kbmonkeyyes18:32
Kiloswell give whole command man18:32
Kilosai! ek sukkel18:32
kbmonkeyai ai hang vas meneer ;)18:33
Kiloslol18:33
Kiloshi captine 18:33
inetproKilos: ek het hom gekry18:33
Kiloswat inetpro ?18:33
inetprodie hoendermaaier18:34
Kilosmooi18:34
Kilosslag18:34
Kilosmaak n hoed van die vel18:34
inetprohttps://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts18:34
Kilossjoe18:35
inetproactually, my tuinier het hom self in die hoenderhok vasgepen vanoggend18:35
Kilosgelukkig ne18:35
inetprowat sê jy wat is dit?18:35
Kilosgroot skade gemaak daai ding18:35
inetprobaie18:35
Kiloswag ek kyk mooi18:36
inetproen as ons nou rustig sit en dink dan pla die ding ons al amper drie jare lank18:36
inetprohet lank net eiers gesteel18:36
charlinetpro: what is it? what type of animal?18:37
inetprocharl: nee man, ek wil eers hoor wat sê Kilos18:38
charloh i see now you don't know either :)18:38
charlsorry haven't read the whole conversation18:39
Kilossjoe lyk nie soos n inheemse dier nie18:39
captinehi there18:39
Kilosmaybe an imported pet that escaped18:39
captineanyone here on afrihost?  am thinking of changing but not sure of the quality of the connetions18:40
inetprolooks to me like the Slender mongoose (Afrikaans: Swartkwasmuishond)18:40
inetprohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_mongoose18:40
Kilosweet  jy inetpro ?18:40
kbmonkeycaptine, I was very happy with them for a long while18:41
Kilosjy seker?18:41
kbmonkeyon their mifi device now, but their DSL is on par18:41
inetprowel nie 100% nie, maar ander fotos lyk so18:41
ThatGraemeGuyinetpro: isn't that a meerkat?18:42
ThatGraemeGuyoh.... hi :-)18:42
kbmonkeyKilos, you want the audio extracted in the same encoded format, wav, or ogg?18:42
charlis there any chance of it being a type of marten ?18:42
charlthey are not native to africa though, they are native to europe18:42
inetprosee: http://www.warwicktarboton.co.za/other%20crea%20pgs/248SMong.html18:43
ThatGraemeGuycaptine: been with afrihost for 4+ years, very satisfied18:43
Kilosdoesnt matter kbmonkey 18:43
charlah yes it looks a lot like that mongoose18:43
Kilosmp3 better though18:43
* kbmonkey wonders how mp3 is better18:45
Kilossjoe inetpro musta been someones pet, they arent local here but18:45
kbmonkeyhttp://savvyadmin.com/extract-audio-from-video-files-to-wav-using-ffmpeg/18:46
Kiloshere on the way to harties was an animal park that flooded some years back and everything escaped18:46
Kilosi dont like wav its to winfied and always larger18:46
Kilosty my monkey18:46
kbmonkeyin a nutshell18:47
kbmonkeyffmpeg -i video.mkv -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 2 audio.wav18:47
Kiloswhere do you put the path to the video?18:47
kbmonkeylame -V0 -q0 --vbr-new audio.wav audio.mp318:48
kbmonkeyvideo.mkv is your video file18:48
kbmonkeythen you use the 'lame' command to make it to mp318:49
Kilosand must it be in home18:49
kbmonkeyor for ogg:18:49
kbmonkeyffmpeg -i audio.wav  -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg18:50
kbmonkeyinstall libogg for that, or lame for mp318:50
kbmonkeynah, it can be in any directory that your user can read and write to Kilos 18:50
Kilosno /home/miles/Desktop/?18:51
kbmonkeyyou probably get GUIs for these, but I cannot suggest any18:51
kbmonkeyyes Desktop would work18:51
Kilosno i only want to rip one18:51
kbmonkeylol, I don't have a Desktop :p18:51
GolynxKilos its fine , you dont have to do it :)18:51
Kiloslol18:51
Golynxlike i said i take your word for it18:52
Kilosit will be for me too Golynx because i dont wanna see the vid everytime18:52
Golynxoh okay 18:52
Kilosty kbmonkey 18:53
kbmonkeyyw kilos :) to get all these tools you can run:18:53
kbmonkeysudo apt-get install ffmpeg lame18:54
inetprosjoe, you guys were chatting away today18:54
* inetpro giving up reading the backlogs18:54
kbmonkeymine says it will need 700Kb to install18:54
Kilosty kbmonkey 18:54
Kilosi can always rely on my monkey18:54
Kilosmostly18:54
Kiloshehe18:54
kbmonkeymostly18:54
kbmonkey;D18:55
Kiloshaha18:56
Kilos214kB download only18:56
Kilosffmpeg was already latest version18:56
kbmonkeyneat :D18:57
kbmonkeywe can find you a ffmpeg gui if you like, but I know Kilos is so near professional with the command line ;)18:58
Kilosdunno what its installed for but ya18:58
Kilosno this is good ty kbmonkey 18:58
kbmonkeykeeps the brain sharp18:58
Kiloslol18:58
kbmonkeyhaha18:58
kbmonkeyffmpeg converts video and audio and lame makes mp318:58
Kilosim good at apt-get update and aptitude upgrade and install and remove18:59
Kilosand nano sort my nm18:59
captineThatGraemeGuy, thanks.  What package you on?  I am on cybersmart 20gig 10meg + 50gig addon19:00
Kilosinetpro there were of those at the snake park at harties before they got washed out around 92 we think19:00
kbmonkeysnakes?19:01
Kilos200219:01
Kilosmongoose that aint from this area19:02
Kiloskilled the pros ckicken farming19:02
Kiloschicken19:02
kbmonkeyohhh19:03
kbmonkeythe snake's natural enemy19:03
kbmonkeyI watched an empisode of he-man, and orko the wizard gigantified a mongoose to scare away the snake men.19:04
Kiloslol19:06
Kilosami kbmonkey winff is the gui thing19:11
Kilosin ubuntu repos19:12
kbmonkeyaaah19:12
inetproKilos: interesting19:13
Kilosyeah19:13
kbmonkeygood find!19:14
inetproKilos: wikipedia tells me "The slender mongoose, with up to fifty subspecies, are found throughout sub-Saharan Africa"19:15
Kilosya but we never seen them in this area19:15
Kilosswaar been here for 65 years19:16
inetprook19:16
Kiloswe got different ones here19:16
Kilosalso steal eggs19:16
Golynxlol this is so funny. Cellc hit back at MTN's ad that was supposed to hit back at Cellc over their first ad about MTN :D www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg19:36
Golynxhttp://www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg19:37
inetproGolynx: lol19:38
inetproyes that was very original19:38
inetproam just a bit surprised that these guys keep going at each other like that19:39
inetprotypical american style19:39
Golynxlol , looks like neither one wana back down19:40
inetproas far as I understood this type of advertising was never allowed here19:40
Golynxbut Cellc will always wana fight the hardest , since their the smaller guy19:40
Golynxyeah i never saw anything like this too in this country19:41
Golynxbut desperate times calls for desperate measures i guess19:42
inetprois it not covered in The Competition Act?19:43
inetpromaybe something like harmful competitive practices?19:44
inetproam not sure and definitely not a fundi in this field, but I now there was something19:45
inetproknow as well19:45
Golynxi think there must be some law against this kinda behaviour in all countries19:46
Golynxit not healthy to compete this way thats for sure19:46
Kiloswhew kbmonkey just the audio is 7.8m19:46
GolynxKilos i use Audacity to cut my audio 19:47
Kiloswinff works well straight to mp3 first time19:47
Kilosyou mean from the front and back Golynx ?19:48
Golynxfront and back meaning "Channels" ?19:48
inetproGolynx: hmm... in the states I noticed competition like this very distinctly when I was there in 1993 I think19:48
inetproand I know it was fully legal19:49
Kilosno the lead up where peeps chat first before song starts19:50
Kilosi think i tried audacity quite a while back but didnt get anywhere19:50
inetproaudacity is very useful for audio editing19:51
Golynxinetpro yeah in the US companies are naturally more straight forward about competition, so it makes sense 19:51
kbmonkeyokay Kilos, the -q0 option means high quality. you could probably drop it to q6 - normal quality19:51
Kilosok19:51
Golynxoh ok Kilos19:51
kbmonkeyq6 is cd quality if I remember correctly19:52
Kilosah19:52
Golynxthere is many audio settings in Audacity though , effects too19:52
kbmonkeyaudacity is great :)19:53
Kilosi just want to cut the beginning off where they introduce her and ask what song and life history etc so i only have the song19:53
kbmonkeyhmm, it has been a while since I made any songs in milkytracker19:54
inetproGolynx: I think this article is relevant to our discussion: 19:54
inetproIs a legal loophole opening for comparative advertising?  http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/12/58341.html19:54
GolynxKilos yes Audacity will do that19:54
Kilosgood19:55
GolynxJust select a on the timeframe that you wana cut and you can play the selected part too19:55
Golynxinetpro thats a good article19:58
Golynxi dunno much about the ad. industry though to make this a discussion :)19:58
inetpro:-)20:04
* Kilos will read the audacity manual. dunno what time frames are20:18
Kilosyou will hear her one day Golynx big men cry when they hear her sing20:19
Kilosne inetpro 20:19
inetprouh, cry?20:20
Kilosnie jy nie man20:20
inetproai!20:20
Kilosnuvohet gehuil 20:21
Kilosen baie ander mans20:21
Kilosjy te hard20:21
inetproai!20:21
inetprosorry oom20:22
* inetpro calling it a night20:22
inetprogoeienag20:22
psydroid_goedenacht inetpro 20:23
Kilosnight inetpro sleep tight20:23
Kilosim gonna crash too. night all. sleep tight20:24
kbmonkeyah night Kilos 20:24
kbmonkeygood idea, need my rest too!20:24
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