[05:03] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn and others
[05:05] <nlsthzn> morning
[05:23] <nuvolari> o/ hi nlsthzn, oom Kilos 
[05:23] <nlsthzn> alo
[05:23] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[05:30] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[05:32] <bduk1> More Kilos  en almal
[05:32] <magespawn> good morning
[05:35] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:36] <magespawn> did you get much rain last night/
[05:38] <magespawn> ?
[05:40] <Kilos> not a drop
[05:44] <bduk1> 34 ml in Rayton yesterday
[05:44] <bduk1> mm
[05:44] <magespawn> we got some here last night, very  heavy but did not last long
[05:47] <Kilos> we just had heavy mist last 2 mornings, cant see anything 200 metres away and everything sopping wet
[05:47] <Kilos> and its getting cold again
[05:48] <magespawn> well at least there is some moisture around
[05:48] <magespawn> winter is coming
[05:48] <Kilos> yeah
[05:48] <bduk1> They say 2 months after the mist the frost comes
[05:49] <magespawn> never use superglue on your shoes when you are wearing them
[05:50] <nlsthzn> >.<
[05:50] <Kilos> rofl
[05:51] <magespawn> indeed
[05:51] <Kilos> you can get superglue disolving stuff
[05:51] <magespawn> yup and how to apply it to the foot inside the shoe?
[05:51] <Kilos> eish
[05:52] <magespawn> anyway bbl, got some outside work to do today
[05:52] <Kilos> sis says when feet sweat it comes lose
[05:53] <Kilos> then sandpapewr inside of shoe to get it smooth again
[05:53] <Kilos> she speaks from experience
[05:53] <Kilos> haha
[05:56] <jabberwocky93> morning all
[05:56] <Spekko> morning all
[05:56] <Spekko> Maaz: Coffee on
[05:56]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:56] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93 Spekko 
[05:56] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[05:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[05:59] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos :)
[06:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko and Kilos!
[06:00] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[06:00] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[06:01] <Spekko> Thank you Maaz
[06:01] <jabberwocky93> Map of package dependencies in the Ubuntu Software Center http://i.imgur.com/8yHC8.jpg (dont have any references)
[06:04] <Kilos> lol WAYTTD
[06:32] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[06:32] <Private_User> morning all
[06:33] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[07:40] <magespawn> jabberwocky93, very cool map, amazing how complex it is, reminds me of a map of the brain or of the galaxy
[07:41] <magespawn> thanks for the tip Kilos, also your skin eventually dies and it will come lose
[07:41] <Golynx> o/
[07:41] <Golynx> skin ?
[07:42] <Kilos> lol
[07:42] <Kilos> hi Golynx he superglue his shoe while foot was inside
[07:42] <Golynx> oh lol
[07:44] <Golynx> i thought it was an ubuntu skin, or when your underground after being burried the skin comes loose
[07:44] <Kilos> lol
[07:45] <Golynx> oh hi Kilos
[07:45] <Kilos> haha
[07:45] <Golynx> :D
[07:50] <Golynx> i like how facebook wana put a Skype like service into WhatsApp. Then you will see the big babies MTN and Vodacom crying even more louder lol
[07:55] <magespawn> hi Golynx 
[07:55] <magespawn> my blond moment for the week
[07:55] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[07:55] <Golynx> lol all good
[07:56] <Golynx> we're all blond deep down
[07:56] <magespawn> if you have the know how you can set up an asterisk server and make free calls for ever anyway, just need data
[07:58] <Golynx> yeah thats true, but too much work lol 
[07:59] <Golynx> WhatsApp got a massive userbase, so having something like that will surely hit the mobile operators hard
[08:00] <Golynx> loss in voice revenue from overseas players is something they cannot stop
[08:02] <Golynx> so they're days of being the fat lazy cats is coming to an end, and they need to change they're business models 
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[08:06] <Golynx> magespawn: i'm gonna try that someday, seems like a good little private project to take on
[08:07] <charl> good morning
[08:07] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:07]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:07] <charl> hi magespawn 
[08:07] <Golynx> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:07] <Golynx> hi charl
[08:07] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy charl 
[08:07] <charl> hi Golynx 
[08:07] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:08] <magespawn> it is realtively simple and you don't need the expensive equipment if you are not going going to take pots or cell calls
[08:08] <magespawn> hi charl ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:09] <magespawn> relatively 
[08:09] <magespawn> i have not worked out how to route incoming calls to a cell number through the asterisk yet
[08:10] <Golynx> magespawn: yeah, i think .amr files are the smallest soound files but with the least quality to convert the voice to before sending it
[08:11] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:11] <Golynx> why need a cell number 
[08:11] <magespawn> i also not sure how the routing would work if you had a paid for sip account
[08:12] <magespawn> for people to call you, i am not sure how the routing would work to your asterisk from the cell network
[08:12] <Kilos> whatever happened to that guy that said he was an asterisk expert
[08:12] <Golynx> lol the whole point is to bypass the cell networks 
[08:13] <magespawn> for example, people who do not have an account on your server, how would they call you?
[08:13] <magespawn> that is why skype to skype is free but all the other call you pay for
[08:14] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:14] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[08:14] <magespawn> then you start getting into interconnect rates, and nobody would want to pair with you if you have a low number of users
[08:15] <charl> magespawn: i'm curious, how's federation looking with asterisk at the moment
[08:15] <charl> magespawn: with lync you can federate with skype, yahoo etc and with other lync users on other networks
[08:15] <Golynx> they will have usernames that you either type in or click on . That will be send to the server and the server sends it to the other user if his app is on a connection is made and kept open . Thats how i think it should work atleast
[08:16] <charl> magespawn: in other words, can you call another asterisk user or a lync user through the internet?
[08:17] <magespawn> charl as long as the routing between the asterisk servers is setup
[08:17] <magespawn> static ip or dyn dns something like that
[08:17] <charl> magespawn: but then you have to configure the routing between each of the asterisk servers manually? that's not so good
[08:17] <charl> magespawn: you should have all of that work transparently just like with lync
[08:18] <Golynx> this is alot more work then it appears to be lol
[08:18] <magespawn> i am still learning about asterisk and what is the best way for things to work
[08:19] <Golynx> i will rather make use of html5 Websockets with a Nodejs server to do something like this.
[08:19] <charl> lync does it like this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204825.aspx and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205134.aspx
[08:19] <charl> magespawn: sorry for the difficult questions, i'm just asking because i'm curious :)
[08:20] <charl> Golynx: they are making use of xmpp federation, which in its own is a good standard
[08:20] <magespawn> but for example, internally my asterisk has a static ip of say 192.168.1.254 but it is behind a nat router so i would need a dyndns for the external ip then set the port routing to find the asterisk on my internal network
[08:22] <charl> magespawn: you might need to do something dns-related too (in the case of lync) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj618369.aspx
[08:22] <charl> if you can do something similar with asterisk it would be really great
[08:23] <charl> ooh this is very interesting http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/2013/08/21/series-exchange-2013-and-lync-2013-integration-with-asterisknow-pbx-pt-1.aspx
[08:24] <magespawn> but if you had your asterisk on a vps then the client just has to connect to that either by ip or address
[08:24] <charl> magespawn: if the ip is external to your network and you're using NAT, you would need to find a way to do NAT traversal though ?
[08:25] <magespawn> also if the asterisk is on my private network then the connection is dependant on my adsl speed and connection
[08:26] <charl> yeah but SIP is only for session initiation, so the actual calls should go directly between the endpoints
[08:26] <charl> if you do a call on your internal network it shouldn't make use of your dsl modem
[08:26] <magespawn> using a dynamic dns updater from inside my network would allow you to set a static web address to a changing ip
[08:26] <charl> yeah that's hairy, you could try it though
[08:26] <charl> a friend of mine has it set up on his cable connection
[08:27] <charl> can't you get a static ip on dsl ?
[08:27] <magespawn> charl you can but costs extra
[08:27] <charl> bah :(
[08:27] <charl> on my cable provider you can only get a static ip on a "business" connection and that's a whole different package
[08:27] <charl> i looked at it but they required the signing of a year contract so i backed off and went with the home option instead
[08:29] <magespawn> the idea would be to have an asterisk server at each of the hotels in the group to handle incoming calls for each hotel and have the asterisk route all internal calls through the internet between the various asterisk servers
[08:30] <charl> ah you can do that through a VPN then you can encrypt the traffic too
[08:30] <magespawn> maybe set up a vpn through a vps on the net to handle that traffic
[08:30] <charl> this series is really interesting: http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/tags/asterisknow/
[08:30] <charl> i love the fact that lync uses sip/simple as well
[08:31] <charl> hmm, i would definitely look at getting static ips though, even if it costs a little extra
[08:31] <charl> putting all of that traffic via a vps is also going to cost money
[08:31] <charl> and running vpn's over dynamic ips will just end up creating a potential security risk
[08:32] <magespawn> yup lots of things to consider and make sure that it is stable and secure
[08:32] <charl> openvpn is gold though, it's highly secure
[08:33] <charl> once you got that set up, you're sorted
[08:33] <charl> ok i'm off, need to get some work done, ttyl all
[08:35] <Squirm> everyone here still alive?
[08:35] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[08:35]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:36] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[08:36] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[08:36] <magespawn> also as far as i know asterisk and asteriskNOW are not exactly the same thing, but i stand under correction there
[08:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[09:00] <magespawn> hi Squirm 
[09:01] <Golynx> hi maiatoday
[09:01] <Golynx> hi Private_User
[09:01] <Golynx> hi Squirm
[09:01] <maiatoday> hi Golynx 
[09:02] <Private_User> hi Golynx
[09:02] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[09:02] <maiatoday> hi Kilos 
[09:24] <magespawn> Kilos, what is the best way to make a copy of your system for re-installing?
[09:24] <Kilos> oh my
[09:24] <Kilos> was remastersys
[09:24] <Kilos> what about cloning
[09:24] <Kilos> or that dd command
[09:25] <magespawn> hmm, have they not carried on with remastersys?
[09:27] <Kilos> peeps said it stopped but i havent checked
[10:06] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[10:07] <superfly> hi Kilos
[10:07] <Golynx> hi superfly
[10:08] <Golynx> did my first hello-world app with Flask on Sunday. I will play around with it some more, its great
[10:09] <superfly> cool
[10:09] <superfly> and it's not braindead like PHP
[10:09] <Golynx> lol
[10:09] <Golynx> but a bit confusing
[10:10] <Golynx> i was trying to make a guestbook app from the same directory as the hello-world app, but failed
[10:11] <Golynx> seems like it has to be setup at the wsgi file as root url or something
[10:14] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[10:41] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[10:41] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[10:41] <psyatw> hi magespawn 
[10:41] <psyatw> hi Private_User 
[10:42] <magespawn> hi psyatw 
[10:42] <Golynx> hi psyatw
[10:42] <Private_User> hi psyatw
[10:42] <psyatw> hi Golynx 
[10:42] <magespawn> in and out like a yoyo today
[10:45] <Kilos> oh well
[10:46] <Private_User> thats what she said...
[10:46] <Private_User> LOL
[10:47] <Kilos> hehe
[10:49] <Private_User> ah damn said it too late
[10:49] <Private_User> :p
[10:50] <Kilos> hi liamT 
[10:51] <liamT> greetings
[12:13] <Vince-0> !
[12:13] <Vince-0> whats hapanan in IRC
[12:25] <liamT> not alot it seems
[15:14] <Kilos> hi Iraeeu 
[15:14] <Kilos> charl bot again?
[15:15] <Kilos> pings this one
[16:19] <Kilos-> hi Golynx 
[16:20] <Golynx> hi Kilos-
[17:23] <Private_User> evening
[17:39] <charl> hi Private_User 
[17:39] <charl> good evening all
[17:40] <charl> Kilos: doesn't look like a bot
[17:40] <Kilos> shame
[17:40] <Kilos> and i ctcp pinged him
[17:41] <charl> did you get a response ?
[17:41] <Kilos> yes 
[17:41] <charl> ah no then it doesn't conform to the "profile" that was posted on github
[17:41] <Kilos> quick too
[17:41] <charl> how's it going?
[17:41] <charl> otherwise :)
[17:42] <Kilos> oh well, peeps will learn to say hi when they are greeted
[17:42] <Kilos> good ty
[17:42] <Kilos> and you?
[17:42] <charl> i'm doing well, got some cool projects going right now
[17:42] <charl> i'm happy that i can ditch jdeveloper and eclipse and use vim again for all my development
[17:42] <Kilos> my buntu forgot how to automount usb goodies
[17:43] <charl> in i3 it never automounts anything in any case
[17:43] <charl> i just do it manually
[17:43] <charl> i actually managed to convert one of my colleagues into also using i3, he was very impressed
[17:44] <charl> the speed, simplicity, how nice it is to launch applications, etc
[17:44] <Kilos> ya i use diskutility and they show mounted there but after unmount and then mount buttons pressed then they show
[17:44] <Kilos> whats i3 again?
[17:44] <charl> it's a modern tiling window manager
[17:44] <charl> http://i3wm.org/
[17:45] <Private_User> hi charl
[17:45] <charl> but it's really clean and neat compared to the other implementations i've seen
[17:45] <charl> and it's extremely highly configurable except that the default configuration is fine for most users
[17:45] <charl> so it's (almost) perfect for many seasoned linux users :)
[17:47] <Kilos> code peeps ya
[17:47] <Kilos> i like my mouse
[17:47] <Kilos> dont believe in wasting money
[17:47] <Kilos> bought mouse so it gotta work
[17:48] <charl> lol
[17:49] <Kilos> vim was hard work for me
[17:49] <Kilos> but i managed the hello world part
[17:50] <charl> but it does pay off, afaik vim is still one of the most versatile editors available today
[17:50] <charl> there is practically nothing it either can't do or can't be made to do with some addons
[17:51] <Kilos> ya man but i dont need to edit much and nano works well when i must
[17:52] <charl> yeah then it doesn't matter
[17:52] <charl> there are plenty good editors
[17:53] <charl> i used to use nano myself (or pico before that on old redhat systems)
[17:55] <Kilos> nano is lekker for me
[17:56] <charl> it can be nasty without the -w switch though
[17:56] <charl> line wrapping issues
[17:57] <charl> got bitten by that a few times :D
[17:57] <Kilos> ai!
[18:00] <Kilos> haha Golynx the future is so bright you gotta wear shades
[18:01] <Kilos> 8)
[18:01] <Golynx> lol
[18:02] <Golynx> where is the sun shining so bright Kilos
[18:02] <Kilos> yay i even get the keys to use for smileys on konversation
[18:02] <Kilos> you the one with shades on
[18:03] <Golynx> oh cool 8) 
[18:04] <Kilos> Golynx has joined this channel (~jarrydlyn@197.111.223.228).
[18:05] <Golynx> hmm  :| 
[18:08] <Kilos> that doesnt show as a recognized emoticon/smiley thing
[18:08] <Kilos> text only
[18:09] <Golynx> its an (indifferent) smiley on my client
[18:10] <Kilos> lol
[18:10] <Kilos> maybe i gotta put some plugin or something to see then all but too much work
[18:10] <Golynx> like :/  or :\  smiley
[18:10] <Kilos> ya dont see those
[18:11] <Golynx> me neither lol
[18:12] <Golynx> i only got 11 smileys to choose from ,  :)  :(  ;)  :o  :D  8-)  :|  :'(  :@  :p  '< 
[18:14] <Kilos> oh with konversation i gotta remember the keys thats why a hardly ever use smileys
[18:14] <Golynx> but yeah irc clients differ on what smiley codes they support
[18:14] <Kilos> xchat doesnt show anything but text
[18:14] <Golynx> lol
[18:15] <Golynx> they should have a dropdown list of smileys 
[18:15] <Golynx> with images, makes no sense to only show  text for a full irc client
[18:15] <Kilos> (c)
[18:15] <Kilos> haha
[18:15] <Kilos> on mxit that shows chillies
[18:15] <Kilos> (C)
[18:16] <Kilos> thats shoulda been a bigger cup
[18:16] <Golynx> lol
[18:16] <Golynx> and (H) for heart
[18:16] <Kilos> <3
[18:17] <Kilos> (H)
[18:17] <Golynx> yeah that <3 fb uses too
[18:17] <Kilos> ya cap h tween brackets
[18:17] <Kilos> fb?
[18:18] <Golynx> but its too many variations though to make a universal list that all chat apps should use
[18:18] <Golynx> facebook
[18:20] <charl> skype also has a huge list
[18:20] <Kilos> too much work smileys
[18:21] <Kilos> need only to remember <3 for my daughter
[18:21] <Golynx> a smiley is just a template that links to an image, its kinda easy to make 
[18:23] <Golynx> when are you meeting her Kilos
[18:23] <Kilos> no man i remember 3 now so thats enough
[18:23] <Kilos> will never have the money to go so far
[18:23] <Kilos> but we chat daily and she sends me all her completed commisions and so on
[18:25] <Golynx> oh thats good, she wants her dad to know she's living her dream
[18:25] <Golynx> never loose hope though, maybe someday you will meet
[18:25] <Kilos> and i get every song she records
[18:27] <Golynx> nice, i will like to hear some of her songs someday aswell
[18:27] <kbmonkey> hi hi - who's talking about me hmmm?
[18:27]  * kbmonkey 's ears burns
[18:27] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[18:27] <Kilos> she sings a dream Golynx ask the guys
[18:28] <Golynx> hi kbmonkey
[18:28] <Golynx> i bet she does Kilos :)
[18:28] <Kilos> no one said anything bout you kbmonkey 
[18:29] <Golynx> i always wanted to draw like that , but my hand is not that steady
[18:29] <Kilos> if someone can rip her idols audition for you you will hear the best
[18:29] <Kilos> xfactor audtition
[18:29] <Kilos> the video is lotsa data
[18:30] <kbmonkey> I saw my away log mentioned me last night Kilos ;)
[18:30] <Kilos> maybe some clever oke can rip the audio out of it
[18:30] <Kilos> oh so long ago kbmonkey  sjoe
[18:30] <Golynx> its okay Kilos i take your word for it ;)
[18:31] <Kilos> kbmonkey you clever how do you rip audio out of a video file
[18:32] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg!
[18:32] <kbmonkey> it is amazing
[18:32] <Kilos> from cli?
[18:32] <kbmonkey> yes
[18:32] <Kilos> well give whole command man
[18:32] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[18:33] <kbmonkey> ai ai hang vas meneer ;)
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:33] <Kilos> hi captine 
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: ek het hom gekry
[18:33] <Kilos> wat inetpro ?
[18:34] <inetpro> die hoendermaaier
[18:34] <Kilos> mooi
[18:34] <Kilos> slag
[18:34] <Kilos> maak n hoed van die vel
[18:34] <inetpro> https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts
[18:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:35] <inetpro> actually, my tuinier het hom self in die hoenderhok vasgepen vanoggend
[18:35] <Kilos> gelukkig ne
[18:35] <inetpro> wat sê jy wat is dit?
[18:35] <Kilos> groot skade gemaak daai ding
[18:35] <inetpro> baie
[18:36] <Kilos> wag ek kyk mooi
[18:36] <inetpro> en as ons nou rustig sit en dink dan pla die ding ons al amper drie jare lank
[18:36] <inetpro> het lank net eiers gesteel
[18:37] <charl> inetpro: what is it? what type of animal?
[18:38] <inetpro> charl: nee man, ek wil eers hoor wat sê Kilos
[18:38] <charl> oh i see now you don't know either :)
[18:39] <charl> sorry haven't read the whole conversation
[18:39] <Kilos> sjoe lyk nie soos n inheemse dier nie
[18:39] <captine> hi there
[18:39] <Kilos> maybe an imported pet that escaped
[18:40] <captine> anyone here on afrihost?  am thinking of changing but not sure of the quality of the connetions
[18:40] <inetpro> looks to me like the Slender mongoose (Afrikaans: Swartkwasmuishond)
[18:40] <inetpro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_mongoose
[18:40] <Kilos> weet  jy inetpro ?
[18:41] <kbmonkey> captine, I was very happy with them for a long while
[18:41] <Kilos> jy seker?
[18:41] <kbmonkey> on their mifi device now, but their DSL is on par
[18:41] <inetpro> wel nie 100% nie, maar ander fotos lyk so
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> inetpro: isn't that a meerkat?
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh.... hi :-)
[18:42] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you want the audio extracted in the same encoded format, wav, or ogg?
[18:42] <charl> is there any chance of it being a type of marten ?
[18:42] <charl> they are not native to africa though, they are native to europe
[18:43] <inetpro> see: http://www.warwicktarboton.co.za/other%20crea%20pgs/248SMong.html
[18:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> captine: been with afrihost for 4+ years, very satisfied
[18:43] <Kilos> doesnt matter kbmonkey 
[18:43] <charl> ah yes it looks a lot like that mongoose
[18:43] <Kilos> mp3 better though
[18:45]  * kbmonkey wonders how mp3 is better
[18:45] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro musta been someones pet, they arent local here but
[18:46] <kbmonkey> http://savvyadmin.com/extract-audio-from-video-files-to-wav-using-ffmpeg/
[18:46] <Kilos> here on the way to harties was an animal park that flooded some years back and everything escaped
[18:46] <Kilos> i dont like wav its to winfied and always larger
[18:46] <Kilos> ty my monkey
[18:47] <kbmonkey> in a nutshell
[18:47] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg -i video.mkv -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 2 audio.wav
[18:47] <Kilos> where do you put the path to the video?
[18:48] <kbmonkey> lame -V0 -q0 --vbr-new audio.wav audio.mp3
[18:48] <kbmonkey> video.mkv is your video file
[18:49] <kbmonkey> then you use the 'lame' command to make it to mp3
[18:49] <Kilos> and must it be in home
[18:49] <kbmonkey> or for ogg:
[18:50] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg -i audio.wav  -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg
[18:50] <kbmonkey> install libogg for that, or lame for mp3
[18:50] <kbmonkey> nah, it can be in any directory that your user can read and write to Kilos 
[18:51] <Kilos> no /home/miles/Desktop/?
[18:51] <kbmonkey> you probably get GUIs for these, but I cannot suggest any
[18:51] <kbmonkey> yes Desktop would work
[18:51] <Kilos> no i only want to rip one
[18:51] <kbmonkey> lol, I don't have a Desktop :p
[18:51] <Golynx> Kilos its fine , you dont have to do it :)
[18:51] <Kilos> lol
[18:52] <Golynx> like i said i take your word for it
[18:52] <Kilos> it will be for me too Golynx because i dont wanna see the vid everytime
[18:52] <Golynx> oh okay 
[18:53] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey 
[18:53] <kbmonkey> yw kilos :) to get all these tools you can run:
[18:54] <kbmonkey> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg lame
[18:54] <inetpro> sjoe, you guys were chatting away today
[18:54]  * inetpro giving up reading the backlogs
[18:54] <kbmonkey> mine says it will need 700Kb to install
[18:54] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey 
[18:54] <Kilos> i can always rely on my monkey
[18:54] <Kilos> mostly
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:54] <kbmonkey> mostly
[18:55] <kbmonkey> ;D
[18:56] <Kilos> haha
[18:56] <Kilos> 214kB download only
[18:56] <Kilos> ffmpeg was already latest version
[18:57] <kbmonkey> neat :D
[18:58] <kbmonkey> we can find you a ffmpeg gui if you like, but I know Kilos is so near professional with the command line ;)
[18:58] <Kilos> dunno what its installed for but ya
[18:58] <Kilos> no this is good ty kbmonkey 
[18:58] <kbmonkey> keeps the brain sharp
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <kbmonkey> haha
[18:58] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg converts video and audio and lame makes mp3
[18:59] <Kilos> im good at apt-get update and aptitude upgrade and install and remove
[18:59] <Kilos> and nano sort my nm
[19:00] <captine> ThatGraemeGuy, thanks.  What package you on?  I am on cybersmart 20gig 10meg + 50gig addon
[19:00] <Kilos> inetpro there were of those at the snake park at harties before they got washed out around 92 we think
[19:01] <kbmonkey> snakes?
[19:01] <Kilos> 2002
[19:02] <Kilos> mongoose that aint from this area
[19:02] <Kilos> killed the pros ckicken farming
[19:02] <Kilos> chicken
[19:03] <kbmonkey> ohhh
[19:03] <kbmonkey> the snake's natural enemy
[19:04] <kbmonkey> I watched an empisode of he-man, and orko the wizard gigantified a mongoose to scare away the snake men.
[19:06] <Kilos> lol
[19:11] <Kilos> ami kbmonkey winff is the gui thing
[19:12] <Kilos> in ubuntu repos
[19:12] <kbmonkey> aaah
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: interesting
[19:13] <Kilos> yeah
[19:14] <kbmonkey> good find!
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: wikipedia tells me "The slender mongoose, with up to fifty subspecies, are found throughout sub-Saharan Africa"
[19:15] <Kilos> ya but we never seen them in this area
[19:16] <Kilos> swaar been here for 65 years
[19:16] <inetpro> ok
[19:16] <Kilos> we got different ones here
[19:16] <Kilos> also steal eggs
[19:36] <Golynx> lol this is so funny. Cellc hit back at MTN's ad that was supposed to hit back at Cellc over their first ad about MTN :D www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg
[19:37] <Golynx> http://www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg
[19:38] <inetpro> Golynx: lol
[19:38] <inetpro> yes that was very original
[19:39] <inetpro> am just a bit surprised that these guys keep going at each other like that
[19:39] <inetpro> typical american style
[19:40] <Golynx> lol , looks like neither one wana back down
[19:40] <inetpro> as far as I understood this type of advertising was never allowed here
[19:40] <Golynx> but Cellc will always wana fight the hardest , since their the smaller guy
[19:41] <Golynx> yeah i never saw anything like this too in this country
[19:42] <Golynx> but desperate times calls for desperate measures i guess
[19:43] <inetpro> is it not covered in The Competition Act?
[19:44] <inetpro> maybe something like harmful competitive practices?
[19:45] <inetpro> am not sure and definitely not a fundi in this field, but I now there was something
[19:45] <inetpro> know as well
[19:46] <Golynx> i think there must be some law against this kinda behaviour in all countries
[19:46] <Golynx> it not healthy to compete this way thats for sure
[19:46] <Kilos> whew kbmonkey just the audio is 7.8m
[19:47] <Golynx> Kilos i use Audacity to cut my audio 
[19:47] <Kilos> winff works well straight to mp3 first time
[19:48] <Kilos> you mean from the front and back Golynx ?
[19:48] <Golynx> front and back meaning "Channels" ?
[19:48] <inetpro> Golynx: hmm... in the states I noticed competition like this very distinctly when I was there in 1993 I think
[19:49] <inetpro> and I know it was fully legal
[19:50] <Kilos> no the lead up where peeps chat first before song starts
[19:50] <Kilos> i think i tried audacity quite a while back but didnt get anywhere
[19:51] <inetpro> audacity is very useful for audio editing
[19:51] <Golynx> inetpro yeah in the US companies are naturally more straight forward about competition, so it makes sense 
[19:51] <kbmonkey> okay Kilos, the -q0 option means high quality. you could probably drop it to q6 - normal quality
[19:51] <Kilos> ok
[19:51] <Golynx> oh ok Kilos
[19:52] <kbmonkey> q6 is cd quality if I remember correctly
[19:52] <Kilos> ah
[19:52] <Golynx> there is many audio settings in Audacity though , effects too
[19:53] <kbmonkey> audacity is great :)
[19:53] <Kilos> i just want to cut the beginning off where they introduce her and ask what song and life history etc so i only have the song
[19:54] <kbmonkey> hmm, it has been a while since I made any songs in milkytracker
[19:54] <inetpro> Golynx: I think this article is relevant to our discussion: 
[19:54] <inetpro> Is a legal loophole opening for comparative advertising?  http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/12/58341.html
[19:54] <Golynx> Kilos yes Audacity will do that
[19:55] <Kilos> good
[19:55] <Golynx> Just select a on the timeframe that you wana cut and you can play the selected part too
[19:58] <Golynx> inetpro thats a good article
[19:58] <Golynx> i dunno much about the ad. industry though to make this a discussion :)
[20:04] <inetpro> :-)
[20:18]  * Kilos will read the audacity manual. dunno what time frames are
[20:19] <Kilos> you will hear her one day Golynx big men cry when they hear her sing
[20:19] <Kilos> ne inetpro 
[20:20] <inetpro> uh, cry?
[20:20] <Kilos> nie jy nie man
[20:20] <inetpro> ai!
[20:21] <Kilos> nuvohet gehuil 
[20:21] <Kilos> en baie ander mans
[20:21] <Kilos> jy te hard
[20:21] <inetpro> ai!
[20:22] <inetpro> sorry oom
[20:22]  * inetpro calling it a night
[20:22] <inetpro> goeienag
[20:23] <psydroid_> goedenacht inetpro 
[20:23] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[20:24] <Kilos> im gonna crash too. night all. sleep tight
[20:24] <kbmonkey> ah night Kilos 
[20:24] <kbmonkey> good idea, need my rest too!