[00:00] <tharkun> ruth: When doing fresh install check the hashes of the burned image. Sometimes sh... happens
[00:02] <one> tharkun: Is it better to just use debian?
[00:02] <ruth> Well, I don't think it was the hash. I put Antix on it before. It installed on two other computers well, but this one did the same thing with that message I mentioned above, so I decided to try Ubuntu 12.04. This same Ubuntu alternate download worked before for me.
[00:02] <ruth> But, yes, I will try that boot repair and find the url for you guys and get back to you. K?
[00:03] <Beldar> ruth, How much memory is on that computer?
[00:04] <ruth> 1.9 G    almost 2
[00:04] <Beldar> ruth, Cool, you mentioned older computer, just wondering. ;)
[00:05] <Wizar|2> i removed nvidia gpu from pc, how do i reconfigure ubuntu to use integrated gpu?
[00:05] <ruth> I can go into bios and try a set up something right, and it comes on, but if I turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it gets that message.
[00:05] <tharkun> rww: Sorry  didn't realize the ban evasion.
[00:06] <rww> tharkun: no problem, you replied fine
[00:07] <naxil_> mmm i think the problem is kernel regression
[00:08] <ruth> So, for boot repair, I just stick the CD in and do what?
[00:08] <rww> i spel gud
[00:09] <Beldar> ruth, The link I gave you tells you how to use the app.
[00:09] <ruth> oh, o.k. thanks!  I'll get back to you with what happens.
[00:12] <cheetah100> nzoss
[00:15] <awesomess3> can you ever be too paranoid about security on ubuntu?
[00:15] <rww> depends on your threat model
[00:16] <awesomess3> I just don't want someone to `cp -a ~/ /media/remote_location/`
[00:16] <battlestar_> Anyone have issues installing Octave on 12.04?  " octave3.2 : Depends: libarpack2 (>= 2.1+parpack96.dfsg) but it is not going to be installed"
[00:17] <awesomess3> actually, nevermind.
[00:17] <kr1pter> hola
[00:17] <naryfa> battlestar_: I think this just means it's not in the repository, and you have to download it manually.
[00:18] <naryfa> battlestar_: that particular version
[00:18] <rww> hrm, that package is in the repository.
[00:18] <hbr> I'm on 12.04.3 and need to install libgtk2.0-dev, but that requires that I remove libxrandr-dev-lts-raring.
[00:18] <hbr> A forum post said that'd break my system, though.
[00:18] <bray90820> if i do "fg job_number" should it bring the bg process to the fg
[00:19] <hbr> Anybody tried removing that package before?
[00:20] <awesomess3> hbr, you could always see what inside of it?  `dpkg -L libxrandr-dev-lts-raring`
[00:20] <battlestar_> naryfa, I'm not sure that's the issue (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libarpack2), but I'll give it a try in a sec...
[00:20] <battlestar_> Thanks
[00:20] <hbr> awesomess3, thanks, I'll try that.
[00:20] <naryfa> battlestar_: that's what I used to do with these types of problems
[00:22] <boccobrock> quit
[00:23] <battlestar_> naryfa, To follow up, there was a dependancy of a dependancy that needed to be downgraded (1.5 to 1.3).  I'm not sure if I just broke something else or not, but Octave is installing now.  Thanks for the help.
[00:24] <ruth> O.K., Beldar, this is the url I got from the repair disk    http://paste.ubuntu.com/7111335/          I hope this is what you want.
[00:24] <ruth> I have to go out for a moment. I'll be right back.
[00:25] <Beldar> ruth, Yeah script looks good, you ran the repair right it looks like?
[00:26] <naryfa> battlestar_: it usually trickles down like that, I've had these dependency problems too. It doesn't always break things, even though it says so. I do, however, keep history to revert things in case of trouble.
[00:26] <bob_> yegads there must be a thousand peeps in here
[00:27] <rww> 1543
[00:28] <pdo_fn14> I'm still encountered Apport error when switching on Standard User to Administrator User (without logout) on Saucy, how to fix them?
[00:29] <ruth> It ran and then gave me that url. What should I do next?
[00:29] <ruth> Don't know much about this stuff, sorry.
[00:29] <Beldar> ruth, Try a reboot and see if it boots now.
[00:29] <ruth> o.k.
[00:29] <battlestar_> naryfa, I'm sure when I reboot a month from now I'll need that.  ;-)   Thanks again.
[00:31] <hbr> awesomess3, I'm uncertain but I *think* I can get away with removing libxrandr-dev-lts-raring and installing libxrandr-dev in its place. Thanks.
[00:31] <naryfa> battlestar_: my pleasure
[00:32] <awesomess3> hbr, remember to keep your fingers crossed.
[00:33] <hbr> awesomess3, will do! I'm always a little nervous about this kind of thing.
[00:35] <pdo_fn14> Is't about Apport bugs, and dedicated me to switch off it?. I had been searched it on google, and many result do the same to switching off apport.
[00:35] <Seus> question: I use elementary os and did something that is preventing pantheon from loading past the login screen. Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D both load no problems...i just get a black screen. Any ideas or where I should be looking for figuring this out?
[00:35] <daftykins> Seus: sorry, only ubuntu support in here.
[00:35] <ruth> o.k., Beldar, it reboots good with a list on top to pick from, "generic ubuntu..., or repair mode.. etc. But it just loaded up anyway with the first choice. Now, I hope it will turn on from a complete turn off. We'll see. If not, I'll be back. thanks!
[00:36] <xangua> Seus: #elementary
[00:36] <Seus> already tried there..channel is silent.
[00:37] <Seus> figured being an ubuntu based distro maybe you guys would have an idea
[00:37] <daftykins> it's against channel policy to help non-ubuntu
[00:37] <Beldar> ruth, Cool, if you get the grub menu now your set.
[00:37] <daftykins> so i'm afraid you'll just have to be patient there.
[00:37] <ruth> What do you mean, I'm set if I get the grub menu?
[00:38] <OnkelTem> Hi. Recently my Ubuntu 12.04 stopped reacting on devices like flash cards or mobile phones plugged via USB. There is no ANY activity in syslog. After I restart the PC — it begins to work again. Any ideas? How to restore w/o restarting?
[00:38] <naxil_> ruth yes.. if grub menu show all your os
[00:38] <Beldar> ruth, You went from " "error: unknown filesystem  grub rescue>" to the grub menu right?
[00:39] <ruth> oh,  ya, sorry
[00:39] <Beldar> ruth, Heh, enjoy.
[00:40] <ruth> Now, for the big test of turning it completely off and coming back to it later to see if it will turn on correctly. Thanks guys!
[00:40] <ruth> Get back to ya if I need help
[00:40] <daftykins> we'll be here (:
[00:47] <cisconinja> folks i setup a headless server abot 6 month ago, then shut it down and never used it since. lucky enough i was able to query my dhcp to get the IP after powering it up :)  anyways long story short, i forgot my password and don't really want to do a full installation. anywork around please?
[00:48] <Beldar> !password
[00:48] <daftykins> cisconinja: get a screen and keyboard back on it, hold left shift at boot, pick recovery mode, passwd username
[00:54] <cisconinja> daftykins: okay will give it a try. i will have to try it in the weekend as it it up in the attic :S
[00:54] <daftykins> cisconinja: d'aww
[00:59] <devians> what can cause ubuntu to ignore the shell specified in /etc/passwd
[01:00] <isosphere> I'm having lots of trouble getting items executed from my gnome menu to use the PYTHONPATH I want them to use. I have it in .profile, .bashrc, /etc/environment, and ~/.gnomerc
[01:00] <isosphere> (export PYTHONPATH=/rawr/rwarawr/rawr/awr/)
[01:04] <Guest32681> hello
[01:04] <daftykins> hi
[01:07] <wise___> Hello, quick newbie question... new laptop with a N2920, downloaded 13.10 iso, but the ubuntu download site selected me ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso .  This is totally incorrect right?
[01:08] <rww> wise___: no, that's correct
[01:08] <wise___> rww, why isn't it x86?
[01:08] <rww> wise___: because N2920 is 64-bit
[01:09] <rww> wise___: AMD created the specific architecture used by current consumer 64-bit processors, hence amd64
[01:09] <isosphere> I fixed my PYTHONPATH issue - .gnomerc was fine, but I had a relative path in it. ~/bin becomes /home/me/bin, and works
[01:11] <Wise______> rww, thank you very much, I'm making a boot usb now.
[01:13] <Guest58757> i lost my login password and cannot recover it. is there some sort of other way i can approach this?
[01:13] <Magiobiwan> Guest58757, any other accounts on the computer?
[01:13] <rww> !password
[01:14] <Guest58757> no
[01:14] <Guest58757> there are not
[01:14] <Magiobiwan> Guest58757, follow the guide that rww linked you to
[01:15] <Guest58757> i have and it faild
[01:15] <Guest58757> failed
[01:16] <ddwr> *cricket sounds*
[01:16] <Guest58757> ubottu what is genniejenny
[01:16] <Magiobiwan> Guest58757, you got that too? Spambot of some kind
[01:16] <krabador> hi people, lubuntu 13.10 here on netbook with intel atom dual core, when i try to suspend , i've reboot
[01:16] <Guest58757> yes weard huh
[01:17] <Magiobiwan> Where did it fail, Guest58757?
[01:17] <rww> Magiobiwan: what's the actual nick?
[01:17] <Magiobiwan> Uh
[01:17]  * Magiobiwan looks
[01:17] <Guest58757> at root shell
[01:18] <Magiobiwan> Wow. 1.5GB of HexChat logs
[01:18] <Magiobiwan> rww, StephenDash
[01:18] <Magiobiwan> Was the nick
[01:18] <rww> oh, i already knew about that one :c
[01:18] <ratmav> hey, i have kind of policy question. something came up and i'd like to bounce it off ya'll.
[01:18] <Magiobiwan> o.o
[01:18] <Magiobiwan> Another PM from the bot
[01:19] <Guest58757> so any ideas
[01:19] <Scunizi> ratmav: go for it and see if anyone wants/can respond
[01:19] <ratmav> so, we ship our server like an appliance. during the setup (remote), i find that the person we had install the base os created a separate user from the main admin user account and alias to root via passwd.
[01:20] <ratmav> when i confront them about it, i get a stock reponse that "we require admin access to all servers in our environment"
[01:21] <ratmav> why couldn't they just ask us for the password when they need to get on?
[01:21] <mozzarella> will 14.04 default to mir?
[01:21] <rww> mozzarella: no
[01:21] <Scunizi> ratmav: this might be better posted in #ubuntu-server or #linux .. as an Ubuntu channel that's kind of an eclectic question.  It might also be part of their contract.
[01:22] <wrb123> i'm working on setting up an ubuntu 12.04 server VPS and i have postfix/dovecot working, but for some reason mail log entries are going to /var/log/syslog instead of /var/log/mail.log and mail.err (both are just size 0)
[01:23] <wrb123> my rsyslog.d 50-default.conf has an uncommented entry for mail.* -/var/log/mail.log
[01:23] <wrb123> and also mail.err /var/log/mail.err (without the leading '-')
[01:24] <daftykins> wrb123: permissions on said logs? daemon logging config?
[01:24] <SparkyFlary> is it possible to put ubuntu linux on my samsung galaxy?
[01:25] <daftykins> SparkyFlary: #ubuntu-touch
[01:25] <wise___> Does anybody have exprience with booting up a live usb image of ubuntu 13.10 on an Acer Aspire E?
[01:26] <Scunizi> wise___: is that the older vertically mounted nettop?
[01:27] <wise___> Scunizi no it's a laptop I just bought and I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and win 8.1
[01:27] <amb1s1> I'm trying to use ubunut headless with nomachine, but when I login, I can't mount a drive because I'm not authorize
[01:28] <wrb123> daftykins: both mail logs (.err and .log) have root:root.  it looks like they were logging okay a few days ago before i did some major postfix/dovecot config changes
[01:28] <Scunizi> wise___: you might need to get into the bios and turn off that new "authorized" OS check .. I forget what they call it but had to do the same on a lanovo
[01:28] <ratmav> thanks, Scunizi
[01:28] <Scunizi> ratmav: sure :0
[01:28] <Scunizi> :)
[01:28] <wrb123> daftykins: also 600
[01:29] <wise___> Scunizi thanks I'll try that... I tried to bring up bios and nothing I tried worked, no indication for keypress on boot but OI'll google that.
[01:29] <im_zsw> so any suggestions?
[01:29] <Scunizi> wise___: google is wise___
[01:30] <Scunizi> wise___: or /j #windows
[01:30] <wrb123> daftykins it appears as if my syslog is 640 syslog:adm
[01:32] <wrb123> daftykins aaaaand chmod 640 chown syslog:adm fixed it. thanks for triggering me to check the right thing
[01:35] <thoonai> good evening, I'm having troubles with awk and make
[01:35] <thoonai> awk won't insert my line in the file and make does not find any things to compile despite if I execute it manually in the folder it works
[01:37] <alteregoa> hi, /etc/cron.daily/apt doesnt work anymore on both of my installations using saucer
[01:38] <Guest77766> ola
[01:39] <alteregoa> cocacola
[01:39] <Guest77766> gostaria de montar um grupo hacker
[01:39] <Guest77766> ?
[01:39] <Guest77766> alguem?
[01:40] <Guest77766> podemos planejar um belo ataque
[01:41] <Beldar> !pt | Guest77766
[01:41] <krabador> hi people, lubuntu 13.10 here on netbook with intel atom dual core, when i try to suspend , i've reboot
[01:44] <thoonai> ok, the make thing is fixed
[01:44] <thoonai> now just awk bugs me
[01:48] <Guest77766> hi
[01:49] <wise___> Solved being able to boot from USB, although once I pass the Ubuntu menu asking to boot live, install, etc, I get a blank screen and the USB sticks activity light doesn't show any activity... humm...
[01:49] <krabador> hi people, lubuntu 13.10 here on netbook with intel atom dual core, when i try to suspend , i've reboot
[01:57] <cisconinja> daftykins: okay so i figure i do it now :). i am at root # so i did passwd <username> and after i enter the new password twice i get "auth token error , password unchanged"
[02:04] <raj> in what directory should I be putting the folder of an app I just downloaded?
[02:05] <bazhang> what app raj
[02:05] <raj> smartgithg
[02:05] <raj> http://www.syntevo.com/smartgithg/download
[02:07] <bazhang> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-smartgithg-5-0-1-on-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-0412-1012-04-linux-mint-16151413-pear-os-87-and-elementary-os-0-2/ raj
[02:07] <Roey> hello here I have a question on crontab -e:  I have a snapshotting script that I want run every hour on the 1's, and a backup script that I want to run every 4 hours.
[02:07] <L_e_v_i> So I've got a fresh install of 13.10, but when I go to login, it's not accepting any inputs from my keyboard. My keyboard works fine in both Grubmenu and Livedisc, but not from the HDD.
[02:08] <Roey> how do I write this as a crontab entry?
[02:08] <bazhang> it's a PPA raj, so at your own risk
[02:12] <otherworldlyenig> I am not sure where to go to fix this so please if this is not the place give me a direction on where to go ALL my bios options are greyed out and i need to reinstall ubuntu but it will not boot from a disk or usb how do i reinstall ubuntu or fix the bios
[02:16] <thoonai> why does "awk '/"exit 0"/{print "cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/null &"}1' /etc/rc.local > file
[02:16] <awesomess3> krabador, did you ever find a solution to your suspend turning into a reboot?
[02:16] <thoonai> works, if I execute it by hand, but in my script it does not?
[02:16] <naryfa> thoonai: something is wrong in the script, did you point the script which shell it should use?
[02:17] <awesomess3> thoonai, try `bash myscript.sh`
[02:17] <naryfa> thoonai: as in:  #!/bin/bash
[02:18] <L_e_v_i> So, does anyone know how to fix my input problem?
[02:18] <thoonai> naryfa: sure: #!/bin/bash in the first line
[02:18] <thoonai> awesomess3: ?
[02:18] <naryfa> thoonai: show me the rest of the script here: http://pastebin.com/
[02:18] <otherworldlyenig> does anyone know how to fix my reinstall ubuntu problem
[02:18] <awesomess3> thoonai, on your terminal, execute your script like this:   bash the_script.sh
[02:19] <awesomess3> otherworldlyenig, I think you hit something like F9 to enter the BIOs on reboot....?
[02:19] <awesomess3> To enter the BIOs configuration
[02:20] <otherworldlyenig> i did but all the options are greyed out/ disabled i need to know how to enable them
[02:20] <thoonai> naryfa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7111773/
[02:21] <thoonai> awesomess3: this doesnt changed anything :/
[02:21] <Roey> hey all
[02:21] <Roey> with crontab
[02:21] <Roey> if I put in my own scripts,
[02:22] <Roey> where do I physically place them?
[02:22] <thoonai> Roey: where root/cron can read them
[02:22] <Roey> oh.
[02:22] <kxploder> \join #ubuntu-br
[02:23] <rww> kxploder: other / :)
[02:23] <Roey> well what is the convention in ubuntu?
[02:23] <naryfa> thoonai: you can add "exit" on the third line. What is the output of the command, when you try to run it?
[02:23] <alvaro> hola?
[02:23] <alvaro> estoy dentro?
[02:23] <thoonai> naryfa: the modified rc.local
[02:23] <alvaro> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:23] <alvaro> spanish??
[02:24] <thoonai> alvaro: #ubuntu-es
[02:24] <alvaro> #ubuntu-es
[02:24] <thoonai> Roey: no clue tbh ^^
[02:24] <naryfa> thoonai: what? I don't understand.
[02:24] <alvaro> no entiendo
[02:24] <alvaro> como cambio
[02:25] <alvaro> a español
[02:25] <alvaro> bye
[02:25] <thoonai> naryfa: I want to insert a line into rc.local
[02:26] <thoonai> naryfa: so the output is modified which is fine, I can pipe it manually to a file, but when I execute the same command in my script it does not work
[02:26] <naryfa> thoonai: I think it has to be done as root, no?
[02:27] <naryfa> thoonai: what if you run the script as root?
[02:27] <Roey> thoonai:  well thanks anyway :)
[02:28] <wise___> Hello.  attempting to Install Ubuntu VIA a liveUSB I created.  I can access the initial screen (Boot from USB Drive, Install Ubuntu, etc) But thats as far as I can go.
[02:29] <wise___> Any ideas on what the problem could be?
[02:29] <thoonai> naryfa: yes I execute the script with sudo
[02:29] <thoonai> Roey: I put the stuff in /usr/local/bon
[02:29] <thoonai> *bin
[02:29] <Roey> ah, ok.
[02:29] <Roey> why "bon" ?
[02:29] <Roey> oh
[02:29] <Roey> ohhh gotcha :)
[02:30] <Roey> /usr/local/croissant
[02:30] <naryfa> lol
[02:30] <thoonai> Roey: this is my personal convention
[02:30] <Roey> thanks thoonai :)
[02:30] <thoonai> Roey: If you like to ^^
[02:30] <Roey> aye
[02:31] <L_e_v_i> Wise, I believe I'm having the same problem.
[02:31] <naryfa> thoonai: and the script is set to be executable?
[02:31] <naryfa> thoonai: if you run the script from within the terminal, what output do you get?
[02:31] <thoonai> naryfa: so this is very mindbreaking that a command output differs from manually executed to scriptly executed, and I have no clue why this happens
[02:31] <Arsanerit> The package for hedgewars is listed at http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-backports/games/hedgewars but when my friend runs "sudo apt-get install hedgewars/precise-backports", she gets "E: Release 'precise-backports' for 'hedgewars' was not found".  Why was it not found when it is listed at packages.ubuntu.com?
[02:32] <wise___> L_e_v_i, what have you tried?
[02:32] <thoonai> naryfa: yes it is executable, I get as output the modified rc.local ...
[02:32] <naryfa> thoonai: show me
[02:32] <naryfa> thoonai: run the script file, not the line by itself
[02:33] <L_e_v_i> Just about everything. I think my problem is slightly different than yours, I can boot in, but I'm unable to login as it's not accepting my keyboard inputs.
[02:33] <thoonai> naryfa: ok I did it and I just emptied my rc.local and didn't got any terminal output? wtf?
[02:34] <naryfa> thoonai: that means it worked
[02:34] <naryfa> thoonai: look for the "file"
[02:34] <thoonai> naryfa: its empty
[02:35] <wise___> L_e_v_i, oh yeah, I have no display capabilities what so ever.  If I select 'install ububtu' all I get is a chime, but a completely blank screen.
[02:35] <Roey> how do I exit 1 if /media/btrfs is not mounted? (i.e. if it is empty)
[02:35] <Roey> in shell?
[02:35] <naryfa> thoonai: scrutinize the command, is it exactly the same in both places? Is there an error in the script? Also, when the command runs, does it return your username@host, or does it give an empty line and just hangs?
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Arsanerit: The package manager takes care of the "path". Make sure the "backports" repository is enabled and terminal command -> sudo apt-get install hedgewars <- will download and install the game.
[02:36] <cvm> i have 500gb hard drive.. when i installed windows it can only read 450GB.. i tried gparted ang thesame thing 450GB.. is that normal?
[02:38] <thoonai> naryfa: It just finishes as it should everythin works as it should, just this one command fails and does not work
[02:38] <hwrd> que cambias?
[02:38] <Arsanerit> Bashing-om: IF the backports repository is not enabled, will the error be as I described?  I'm not doing the command myself but helping someone who is somewhere else, so it's a little bit tricky.
[02:38] <naryfa> thoonai: you run it like this?  sudo scriptname.sh
[02:38] <thoonai> cvm: hdds are sold in 1000bit-kilobytes. operation systems are calculating kilobytes with 1024bytes and so on
[02:38] <thoonai> naryfa: yes
[02:38] <thoonai> naryfa: no sorry: sudo ./script param1
[02:39] <Guest47764> #ubuntu.pl
[02:39] <naryfa> thoonai: what's param1?
[02:39] <thoonai> cvm: yes this is sadly normal and your filesystem also consumes space for organizing itself
[02:39] <Bashing-om> Arsanerit: Having never seen an invocation ( in all my experience) of a install such as this, I can not advise. If there were another way then one would not be using the package manager, There are alternate means to d/l&install direct from the mirror.
[02:39] <thoonai> naryfa: "107"
[02:39] <naryfa> thoonai: sudo ./script
[02:39] <naryfa> thoonai: no params
[02:40] <Arsanerit> Bashing-om: Okay.
[02:40] <naryfa> thoonai: these params have to be determined in your script in order to work
[02:40] <thoonai> naryfa: but I need thus param
[02:40] <naryfa> thoonai: but it is nowhere in your script
[02:40] <Bashing-om> cvm: Bear in mind, default for housekeeping use is 5% that is not reflected in disk usage.
[02:40] <Arsanerit> Bashing-om: We're trying the alternate ways now.
[02:40] <naryfa> thoonai: it has to be declared
[02:40] <naryfa> thoonai: what it would do
[02:41] <thoonai> naryfa: I can't just put my vpn install script online ^^
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Arsanerit: Why try an alternate ? Is there a problem using the prescibed method ?
[02:41] <thoonai> naryfa: wait, i'll clean it ...
[02:42] <cvm> thanks thoonai.. i also thought about that.. but i tried parted magic and saw several files in my  root directory some windows some linux.. i dont think some of those files should be there.. but i dont know how to remove them..
[02:42] <Bashing-om> Arsanerit:  prescibed/prescribed
[02:42] <Arsanerit> Bashing-om: Because I had already started the instructions with her
[02:42] <Arsanerit> Bashing-om: thanks for the help though
[02:42] <Arsanerit> :)
[02:43] <Bashing-om> Arsanerit: In that case one does a "wget" - full complete path, and a "dpkg -i" to install.
[02:45] <thoonai> naryfa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7111855/
[02:45] <kopasetik> i think that i have a problem with my kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7111857/
[02:46] <kramnik> hello everyone need your help
[02:46] <kopasetik> that's what shows up when i turn on my computer
[02:46] <kopasetik> and it just freezes unless i grub it
[02:46] <kramnik> need your help
[02:46] <hbr> Hi kramnik
[02:47] <kramnik> hi hbr
[02:47] <kramnik> good day
[02:47] <kramnik> need your help hbr
[02:47] <naryfa> thoonai: why do you hae /etc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local ?
[02:47] <naryfa> have*
[02:47] <cvm> whats a good usb bootable os for removing rootkits?
[02:47] <kopasetik> please help!
[02:47] <cadot273kelvin> kramnik: no one can help until you say what your problem is.
[02:47] <thoonai> naryfa: to write the modified rc.local back ...
[02:47] <naryfa> thoonai: you're cleaning the file this way
[02:47] <kramnik> Is it possible to assign 2 public ip in ubuntu server and can be access over the internet at the same time?
[02:48] <kramnik> @hbr -  Is it possible to assign 2 public ip in ubuntu server and can be access over the internet at the same time?
[02:48] <thoonai> cvm: if its on the hdd dd should help
[02:48] <thoonai> or could help
[02:48] <cvm> where can i download it?
[02:48] <naryfa> dd is sweet and dangerous ;)
[02:49] <naryfa> it's installed by default
[02:49] <naryfa> usually
[02:49] <naryfa> man dd
[02:49] <thoonai> naryfa: then why it works manually?
[02:49] <hbr> kramnik: Hmm, I really have no idea. Try sticking around and see if anyone else responds.
[02:50] <kramnik> ok
[02:50] <naryfa> thoonai: I have a feeling it fails before that command, somewhere up
[02:50] <thoonai> cvm: please read before you do, the risk to break something is very high if you don't know what you are doing
[02:50] <thoonai> naryfa: where?
[02:50] <cvm> ok..
[02:50] <kramnik> everyone: please help me,  Is it possible to assign 2 public ip in ubuntu server and can be access over the internet at the same time?
[02:50] <cvm> thanks
[02:50] <Roey> https://gist.github.com/roeyk/9612682  <-- why does this script always produce the same output?
[02:50] <thoonai> kramnik: yes
[02:51] <kramnik> thoonai: nice! but how?
[02:51] <riccardo_> kramnik: on the same interface?
[02:51] <naryfa> thoonai: I don't understand the whole script, I'm not that good, but if that part works as a single command, then logically the culprit is somewhere before that line, in the script I mean.
[02:52] <kramnik> riccardo: what do you mean by that?
[02:52] <thoonai> kramnik: you have to be allowed to use the second IP first. If your provider grants you the second IP, you can create an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:52] <Bashing-om> cvm: re-interate !! dd's nick name is Disk Destroyer for a reason, most excellent tool, does exactly what it is told even when you do not realize what you have told it to do.
[02:52] <thoonai> riccardo_: oops, thanks, I forgot to ask this too ;)
[02:53] <riccardo_> kramnik: do you have only one interface connected to the internet? e.g. ethernet?
[02:53] <thoonai> naryfa: everything just works fine :s
[02:53] <kramnik> thoonai: I'm using two different public IP on different ISP
[02:54] <thoonai> kramnik: o.O
[02:54] <thoonai> I have to go to sadly
[02:54] <riccardo_> kramnik: ok...but does your server has two network interfaces or just one?
[02:54] <naryfa> thoonai: I'm sorry
[02:55] <thoonai> kramnik: please stay in contact with riccardo_
[02:55] <thoonai> naryfa: thanks anyway ;)
[02:55] <naryfa> ok
[02:56] <thoonai> naryfa: I'm a bit experienced in coding and writing scriptsm but Linux/Ubuntu sometimes gives me the creeps
[02:56] <thoonai> ok
[02:56] <thoonai> so goodbye then
[02:56] <duoi> hi all
[02:56] <duoi> does the ubuntu torrent tracker have a blacklist?
[02:57] <thoonai> naryfa: I'm a bit experienced in coding and writing  scriptsm but Linux/Ubuntu sometimes gives me the  creeps
[02:57] <naryfa> thoonai: I write scripts too, but much simpler
[02:57] <kramnik> riccardo_: I have two network interface
[02:58] <thoonai> naryfa: ok, you should see my last one before this one ^^ it had about 300lines ;)
[02:58] <riccardo_> kramnik: then it's pretty easy, just assign different IP on each network card
[02:58] <thoonai> naryfa: bash is the pure horror
[02:58] <thoonai> but gtg, bye ;)
[02:58] <naryfa> thoonai: that's not a script lol, it's a program
[02:58] <naryfa> thoonai: bye
[02:59] <riccardo_> you can find an answer on askubuntu
[02:59] <kramnik> riccardo_:yes I have done setting up, but I can't ping both ISP1 and ISP2 over the internet at the same time
[03:00] <riccardo_> kramnik: uhmmm...you mean the two interfaces don't work at the same time?You have to bring one down to let the other work?
[03:00] <kramnik> riccardo_: Exactly
[03:01] <kramnik> riccardo_: I'm using 2 public IP's at the same time
[03:01] <kramnik> riccardo_: I want to access it both over the internet
[03:01] <chingiz> hi
[03:02] <riccardo_> kramnik: sounds like some routing problem. then
[03:02] <kramnik> riccardo_: Is it possible?
[03:03] <riccardo_> kramnik: should be, but I'm not a guru of network admin...let me check around a little bit :)
[03:03] <kramnik> riccardo_: ok, I understand
[03:04] <kramnik> riccardo_:just let me know once you source it
[03:09] <msx> anyone running a 14.04 daily build?
[03:10] <msx> just GORGEOUS, never ran an ubuntu so smooth
[03:10] <msx> congratz to every1 involved
[03:11] <bazhang> 14.04 discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 please msx
[03:11] <Unsound> Is this the correct channel to ask begginer Ubuntu questions?
[03:13] <usr13> Unsound: SUre
[03:13] <usr13> no question too small :)
[03:14] <rypervenche> .
[03:14] <rypervenche> usr13: I fit that question into the size of a dot. Too small? :)
[03:15] <Unsound> Thank you. I am following a guide to install a client. I am using a cmake command on a file unsuccessfully. The error says It can't find the file.
[03:16] <Unsound> cmake ccp-ethereum.tar.bz2 is the File name
[03:16] <Unsound> cmake cpp-ethereum -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
[03:16] <Unsound> Is the command that is failing
[03:16] <vbgunz> steam does not want to start, anyone know why or how I can look into this for an answer?
[03:17] <rww> vbgunz: did you just install it?
[03:17] <Unsound> I have copy and pasted the file name into the console. I know I must be missing something easy.
[03:17] <vbgunz> no, it's been installed pretty much forever. today out of nowhere, it just doesn't start
[03:17] <rww> hrm
[03:18] <rww> try running it inside a terminal, see if there's useful output?
[03:18] <rypervenche> Unsound: That file is a compressed tarball. You probably need to extract the files, then cd into the directory and then run the command(s)
[03:18] <Unsound> Thank you
[03:18] <rypervenche> Unsound: tar -xjvf ccp-ethereum.tar.bz2 (to extract it)
[03:19] <vbgunz> rww: yeah, it keeps creating dumps, I can see this but I'm not really getting any more hints as to why or what's causing it. this is the only thing that sounds fishy " Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "oxygen-gtk"" I'm looking it up now
[03:19] <rypervenche> Unsound: then probably "cd ccp-ethereum", then maybe try it again. THere may be a better way to install what you're trying to install though.
[03:20] <vbgunz> let me restart, I'm thinking maybe there is something to it, brb
[03:22] <Unsound> This is the guide I am using. https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/wiki/Building-on-Ubuntu-%28Proof-of-Concept%29   I don't think there is an easier way. It is a Proof of Concept Client. I am a Java Windows Dev with little Linux Experiance
[03:24] <zyphlar> anyone on 12.04 getting a taskbar that crashes every few minutes? all the icons including wifi and sound disappear (although my system load indicators stay up)
[03:24] <zyphlar> syslog shows nothing
[03:25] <vbgunz> damn steam opened after a reboot but nothing was really telling me why it wouldn't open before. I toss it up to a fluke :/
[03:27] <msx> bazhang: is that channel for the development version?
[03:27] <bazhang> correct
[03:28] <msx> great
[03:28] <msx> bazhang: :D
[03:30] <rypervenche> Unsound: That should work if you follow it correctly.
[03:30] <rypervenche> Unsound: Be sure to use the tab key to let it auto-complete the name of the file
[03:36] <econdudeawesome> I'm running 12.10 64bit. I've encrypted my harddrive with the option at install. It's about a year or so down the road since initial install (12.04) and now im running out of room. When I use "sudo find / -name '*' -size +1G" I get a ton of encrypted filenames back. Can I remove these excess files?
[03:37] <econdudeawesome> safely remove, rather?
[03:37] <rypervenche> Unsound: I need to get some sleep. I'm sure some of these fine fellows can help you with the instructions if you can't get it.
[03:45] <wise___> Hey, anybody have an acer aspire and had to disable uefi?
[03:47] <ldlework> How can I emulate a reboot for only the networking of my machine that goes beyond 'sudo service networking restart' When I come home from work, I can't resolve any DNS until I reboot my laptop.
[03:48] <siberiannerd> ldlework, any ideas about the root of the problem?
[03:49] <ldlework> siberiannerd: nope. It's crazy. Sometimes I will be able to dig dns servers directly, but no applications like the browser or otherwise will resolve dns.
[03:49] <ldlework> after a reboot, it works fine
[03:49] <fun> when I try to use PIL, the python imaging library, and I try to show() an image in the terminal, nothing comes up
[03:49] <siberiannerd> ldlework, resolv.conf consistency always remains in place?
[03:49] <ldlework> and it doesn't happen when I go from home, to work
[03:49] <fun> Supposedly it is supposed to show the image in the default image viewer, but that is not working
[03:50] <fun> anyone have any ideas what I can do?
[03:50] <ldlework> siberiannerd: Generally, comcast's router will set my resolv.conf to their servers but when this behavior started happening, and I saw that I could dig on google's servers, I set resolv.conf to use public google dns and setattr -r the file so god himself could not change it
[03:51] <ldlework> this ... did not resolve my issue
[03:51] <ldlework> other data is that, as soon as I connect to my home network, I can resolve dns for a while, then suddenly it stops.
[03:51] <ldlework> restarting the networking server does jack, changing resolv.conf does jack
[03:51] <ldlework> s/server/service
[03:52] <ldlework> hence my thinking, 'what does the networking of ubuntu do on restart, and how can I emulate that'
[03:52] <ldlework> I have even tried toggling rflock just because why not
[03:52] <usr13> ldlework: I'm late to the conversation, but if it is a DNS issue, can't you just set a static nameserver for your home network, (in the network-manager).
[03:53] <siberiannerd> ldlework, so resolv.conf still gets changed, right? network-manager fan?
[03:53] <ldlework> usr13: I don't think I'm using network-manager
[03:53] <ldlework> siberiannerd: no nothing can change resolv.con
[03:53] <ldlework> I used setattr on it
[03:53] <usr13> ldlework: Oh?  What are you using?
[03:53] <ldlework> I think wicd
[03:53] <usr13> ldlework: So do it in wicd
[03:54] <ldlework> yeah changing it through wicd-client doesn't seem to do anything
[03:54] <usr13> ldlework: Ok that's strange.
[03:54] <siberiannerd> ldlework, network hardware related problems on your side? dhcp session expiry?
[03:54] <ldlework> maybe restarting 'wicd-daemon' ...
[03:54] <usr13> ldlework: Must be something wrong with wicd
[03:54] <siberiannerd> nothing strange in logs?
[03:55] <ldlework> actually, I just realized that all the standard troubleshooting I've been doing has probably been for network manager
[03:55] <siberiannerd> usr13, wicd works above basic set of tools, nothing more, unlike nm
[03:55] <ldlework> like restarting the 'networking' service and so on
[03:55] <usr13> siberiannerd: What?
[03:55] <siberiannerd> nvm
[03:55] <usr13> siberiannerd: Sorry, I don't think I understood what you were trying to say, but nvm...
[03:55] <ldlework> next time it happens I will killinate 'wicd-daemon' and check wicd's logs
[03:56] <ldlework> thanks guys
[03:56] <siberiannerd> ldlework, yeah would be great to bring all the referring logs to community alongside this bizarre question
[03:58] <usr13> ldlework: Yea, I'm pretty sure there is a "Static DNS" option in wicd
[03:58] <ldlework> there is, pretty sure I set it for this network
[03:58] <siberiannerd> he said he used to set up to google ones
[03:58] <usr13> ldlework: Well, you can set them all to use the same one if you want.
[03:59] <ldlework> yeah still set to google ones
[03:59] <ldlework> so maybe restarting the daemon will work
[03:59] <usr13> ldlework: Yea, ok.
[03:59] <ldlework> I'll try it tomorrow thanks!
[03:59] <usr13> ldlework: Probably have to restart the network as well.
[04:00] <ldlework> What does that mean
[04:00] <usr13> ldlework: sudo service networking stop && sudo service networking start
[04:00] <ldlework> doesn't that restart 'network-manager' ?
[04:01] <ldlework> or is that really the networking "sub-system" for ubuntu
[04:01] <ldlework> I've wondered
[04:01] <usr13> ldlework: No, it restarts the network
[04:01] <ldlework> I kinda wish there was a node-graph of ubuntu in the way that they have that image for the kernel
[04:02] <usr13> ldlework: And you just said that you are not using network-manager, (you are using wicd instead, right?).
[04:02] <ldlework> yeah
[04:02] <ldlework> Ubuntu needs this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Linux_kernel_map.png/800px-Linux_kernel_map.png
[04:03] <ldlework> but for the main components of the OS
[04:03] <ldlework> desktop userland, whatever
[04:03] <usr13> ldlework: sudo service networking restart && service wicd restart  #Don't know that you have to do both but wouldn't hurt.
[04:03] <ldlework> hope it works
[04:04] <usr13> ldlework: dono why it wouldn't
[04:04] <siberiannerd> in order to fix it the root of the problem should be discovered
[04:04] <ldlework> usr13: dono why I have to do it in the first place
[04:05] <usr13> ldlework: I don't either, but suspect that the router is not giving out complete IP information.
[04:05] <ldlework> I just close my laptop at work, and at some point when I get home, I open it up, it wakes up, I'll connect to the wifi, and then 45 minutes later all DNS resolution will fail.
[04:05] <siberiannerd> restarting services via cron is not a solution and never was in my subjective opinion
[04:05] <usr13> ldlework: Check your router's configurations
[04:05] <ldlework> I will be able to dig DNS, but applications wont connect to anything
[04:05] <ldlework> usr13: its a Comcast thing
[04:05] <usr13> ldlework: So it's a Comcast thing.
[04:06] <ldlework> usr13: why does it do this even with resolv.conf setattr'd to not change (it doesn't)
[04:06] <usr13> ldlework: (Don't know what you mean by that but...) "its a Comcast thing"
[04:06] <ldlework> ohhh
[04:06] <ldlework> wait what
[04:06] <usr13> ldlework: I don't know.
[04:06] <ldlework> lol
[04:07] <siberiannerd> bring the logs, man
[04:07] <ldlework> anyway I will be happy if the workaround works, and I'll definitely check the wicd logs
[04:08] <usr13> ldlework: Yep, should just be /var/log/wicd/wicd.log or something like that.
[04:09] <usr13> when in doubt, check it out
[04:27] <nineforty> hi, i recently bought a little vps with ubutnu 12.04 to try and get znc on there but im having a little trouble
[04:28] <nineforty> if i try to build from source, starting with "sudo apt-get install build-essential" i get:
[04:28] <nineforty> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or                             libc-dev
[04:29] <Nothing_Much> What do I need to install when I want php to run on an Apache server?
[04:30] <siberiannerd> nineforty, it's on the repos, why building it from source?
[04:30] <nineforty> is 1.2+ on the repos? i thought it was still at 0.2
[04:30] <nineforty> im not sure, im a massive linux newbie
[04:30] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: install the default LAMP stack
[04:31] <Nothing_Much> Is LAMP a meta-package?
[04:31] <siberiannerd> nineforty, apt-cache or aptitude show can make it clear about the version
[04:32] <Nothing_Much> Oh
[04:32] <Nothing_Much> I have apache2 installed, where do I go when php files won't work?
[04:33] <nineforty> yep, Version: 0.206-1
[04:33] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: if you have apache2 installed, you will need also libapache2-mod-php5
[04:33] <Nothing_Much> tag0_: That's also installed as well
[04:33] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: installed and enabled?
[04:34] <Nothing_Much> How do I enable it?
[04:34] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: try sudo a2enmod php5
[04:34] <Nothing_Much> Already enabled
[04:34] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: you can find everything on the help anyway
[04:34] <siberiannerd> nineforty, /etc/apt/sources.list if fine on your vps?
[04:35] <nineforty> yes, i have root
[04:35] <siberiannerd> it's contents
[04:35] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: did you restart apache?If creating a default .php files, will it be displayed in your browser?
[04:36] <Nothing_Much> tag0_: I restarted it 2 times
[04:36] <Nothing_Much> Still firefox only wants to redownload what I'm trying to open
[04:37] <tag0_> O.o
[04:38] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: did you try all the troubleshooting on the wiki?
[04:38] <Nothing_Much> Which wiki?
[04:38] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: clearing cache, checking if referring to the file trough http etc?
[04:38] <tag0_> Nothing_Much: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:39] <nineforty> http://pastebin.com/sGujcsEu
[04:39] <nineforty> ^siberiannerd
[04:40] <one> How are the kernel source packages installed for recompiling?
[04:41] <jmpdev> does anyone know how to clear purge varnish cache? been googling for 2 hours now
[04:42] <siberiannerd> nineforty, i'd `aptitude update`, `apt-get install build-essential` if no warnings but the one you came up with - support
[04:43] <niel> whats the best way to save laptop power
[04:43] <nineforty> aptitude update worked, but the same error on apt-get still
[04:44] <nineforty> log a ticket with my vps supplier you mean?
[04:44] <nineforty> libperl-dev : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[04:44] <nineforty> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[04:45] <siberiannerd> nineforty, i'd do that at least for the reason that there are other customers and this thing is obviously broken, because unresolved libc packages is vital
[04:46] <siberiannerd> are*
[04:46] <nineforty> great, will do
[04:46] <nineforty> thanks for your help
[04:46] <siberiannerd> no real help so far, np
[04:52] <devians> hey, is there any way for ubuntu to load a bash shell for a user even though the shell is specified otherwise in /etc/passwd?
[04:52] <devians> i'm logging in via ssh and getting a bash shell rather than the one in my passwd line
[04:55] <dem0n> hey guys is there any way to clear out a dependecy error with apt-get?
[04:55] <dem0n> i tried installing some software but now since i got this dependency error with tzdata i can't install any other package...
[04:56] <dem0n> i have tried dpkg -a --configure
[04:56] <dem0n> apt-get purge
[04:56] <dem0n> nothing is working...
[05:01] <skypce> hey guys
[05:01] <skypce> i am doing a deb package with pbuilder
[05:01] <skypce> my doubt is : i need do the change directly in the folder of source code?
[05:02] <zyphlar> anyone on 12.04 getting a taskbar that crashes every few minutes? all the icons including wifi and sound disappear (although my system load indicators stay up)? syslog shows nothing
[05:06] <trainwreckradio> The INSTALL UBUNTU was seamless until I initiated restart/reboot | a purplish screen w/ 2 small icons on the lower screen seemed to LOAD, and then it flipped to a BLACK SCREEN and gave me the following message:  this kernel requires an x86-64cpu, but only detected an i686cpu.   unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu  __  << w/flashing cursor waiting for input  so, how do I remedy this & what is my next
[05:06] <siberiannerd> devians, if that one which is set in passwd exists and nothing related to access control or other third party scenarios resets it, i'd be aware of it as of security risk which is already happened, sorry for my ugly english
[05:08] <devians> siberiannerd not possible, its a virtualmachine I've spun up locally.
[05:08] <siberiannerd> no ideas then if the original image is original one indeed
[05:10] <raj__>  for a service although a pid file exists but still on attempt to start service, it fails saying "* could not access pidfile for Cassandra"... checked folder permissions under /var/run(owner: root) , the subfolder cassandra is owned by cassandra user but still serivice cannot access pid file.. & the file exists as well..(as pid is shown in cat)..so why it says it can't access pid file?
[05:10] <raj__> & running the service as a standalone process just works.. but not  just using "service <service-name> start"..!
[05:10] <dem0n> is there a way to really clear out a dependency problem with apt-get?
[05:11] <dem0n> i really really really don't want to have to reinstall my system...
[05:12] <dem0n> fuck it...
[05:16] <onborad> ?
[05:16] <siberiannerd> dem0n, this mood won't get you to solution, i'd go with aptitude and getting rid of third party repos if there are, at first place
[05:16] <bray9082_> Can someone help me here i am trying to Create a single command that uses the grep utility to searchforthe acronym EOF in all files within the current working directory. This command should redirect and append standard output to a file called results.txt and the error output to a file called error.txt.
[05:16] <bray9082_> by the way this is for homework
[05:17] <tms> sudo apt-get update
[05:17] <tms> eerp
[05:19] <zchrykng> has any one else had trouble installing any package from a .deb file in 14.04?
[05:20] <dem0n> siberiannerd, ya i tried aptitude
[05:20] <dem0n> it fixed one problem but now i can't do anything with my system...
[05:20] <dem0n> i am screwed
[05:20] <onborad> anyone can help me , when I use virtualbox 4.2 version install fedora 18~20 finish. start OS always report "Oh on, Something has gone wrong. A problem  has occurred and the system can't  recover.Please  contect a system adminstrator"
[05:21] <dem0n> does virtualbox support fedora 18-20?
[05:21] <siberiannerd> dem0n, it is still not clear also what exactly problem looks like, maybe bringing up something via pastebin to community could help?
[05:22] <dem0n> ya i know...
[05:23] <dem0n> i wish there was a command that would just clear out all dependency issues and let me get back to a normal system...
[05:28] <sharpshooter> hi friend how to find an ruby installed application
[05:28] <sharpshooter> I just installed the haml gem in ubuntu
[05:28] <sharpshooter> i need to get the root installation dir in ubuntu how to get that
[05:36] <cfhowlett> #vbox|dem0n,
[05:36] <cfhowlett> dem0n, ask in #vbox
[05:37] <Linux25> Im using Xubuntu on my PC and ubuntu on my laptop, one feature i like in ubuntu is the ability to add multiple clocks for different timezones, they show as a list under the calendar, is there something similar for xubuntu?
[05:52] <JasonBored> anybody have hands on experience successfully installing ubuntu to a macbook pro (with filevault encrypted HD)? that's been an utter bitch for me for weeks.. and its got to do with the filevault disk encryption screwing up re-partitioning etc. the how-to's and wiki's etc all have really strange workarounds (one that cost me an entire unintended wipe).. any help would be mucho appreciated
[05:58] <grendal_prime> this is like the weridest thing
[05:58] <grendal_prime> anyone know where i can talk to mac users on irc about mac issues?
[05:59] <grendal_prime> i dont think they know how to talk about mac issues
[06:01] <cfhowlett> !mac|grendal_prime,
[06:13] <ytw> JasonBored, are you trying to duo boot?
[06:13] <ytw> JasonBored, I have single booted linux installed
[06:16] <aneks> hey guys, is there any way I can look up my update history in 13.10?
[06:20] <ytw> aneks, do "cat /var/log/apt.log"
[06:20] <ytw> aneks, I think, don't have ubuntu installed in front of me
[06:22] <dyu1> it's impossible to do a full disk encryption after installing ubuntu, correct?
[06:22] <Morn> Hello.
[06:22] <Morn> I wanted to try out Ubuntu since I've heard it is easy to use now (not just for programmers), so I downloaded/installed it alongside Windows 7. When I restarted and switched back to Windows 7, my headphone jack didn't work. My laptop speakers work fine, and when I plug in my headphones the sound stops.  I was freaked out, so I uninstalled ubuntu and restarted. But the problem was still there. I also did a system restore and a windows upda
[06:22] <aneks> ytw, Thanks I found it in the software centre too. Is there any way I can remove an update?
[06:22] <bray9082_> How would i specify the current working directory for grep
[06:22] <sadpuppy> drivers missed up
[06:23] <ytw> aneks, sudo apt-get purge [package name]
[06:23] <tozen> ytw: apt.log doesn't exist, pal
[06:23] <aneks> ytw, thanks :)
[06:23] <sadpuppy> use the backup you made
[06:23] <sadpuppy> lol
[06:23] <Guest72568> anyone know
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Guest72568, for help with windows ask ##windows
[06:23] <sadpuppy> iobit
[06:23] <ytw> tozen, hmm didn't know that lol! thanks for correcting me
[06:24] <Guest72568> it's about ubuntu though, that's waht caused it
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Guest72568, you removed ubuntu and you're trying to restore windows.  see ##windows
[06:24] <sadpuppy> drive booster
[06:24] <Guest72568> alright.
[06:25] <tozen> ytw: no probs, pal ;)
[06:25] <sadpuppy> free program
[06:25] <ytw> lollll
[06:25] <sadpuppy> morn
[06:25] <ytw> driver booster? I swear I get virus from that shiz
[06:27] <tozen> ytw: cat /var/log/apt/history.log this is the right one.
[06:27] <bray9082_> How would i specify the current working directory for grep
[06:28] <ytw> tozen, nice! I was close~ it was just a guess though.. my first thought was find the terminal log under ~/ but I realize a lot of people uses GUI only...
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> bray9082_: cd?
[06:29] <bray9082_> aeon-ltd: i want to use grep to search all the files within my current working directory
[06:29] <PatBateman> hi
[06:29] <ytw> bray9082_, can't you just say ./[file] | grep
[06:29] <sadpuppy> no way ytw
[06:29] <one> Why are some of the sources using bz2 instead of gz?
[06:29] <ytw> bray9082_ or just do this
[06:29] <ytw> bray9082_ ls -al | grep "name"
[06:29] <PatBateman> OpenJdk and Oracle Jdk can have next to each other? I need Oracle one for PHPStorm..
[06:31] <bray9082_> what i am wondering is why "grep . *3* > exitlogs" sends more then just the files in my working directory to exitlogs
[06:31] <bray9082_> It gives me a hole bunch of other information below it
[06:33] <PatBateman> anyone?
[06:33] <PatBateman> ok got answer from stackoverflow, :)
[06:33] <asdasdsdad> PatBateman: from what i read, definitely yes
[06:33] <PatBateman> thanks asdasdsdad
[06:34] <asdasdsdad> I just checked back here
[06:34] <asdasdsdad> I installed the oracle one i think last night
[06:34] <PatBateman> I see
[06:35] <PatBateman> I want to try PHPStorm and it needs Oracle Jdk, I hope it will work nicely
[06:35] <asdasdsdad> what is phpstorm?
[06:35] <PatBateman> ah an IDE for developing
[06:35] <sqlnoob> I'm having this strange problem where df -h reports full disk usage and du -sh / reporting actual disk usage. Is this some kind of bug with ubuntu? Its 12.04 LTS
[06:35] <PatBateman> sorry
[06:36] <bray9082_> Well i am an idiot
[06:36] <bray9082_> there was more information in the file
[06:37] <Simeon> !cups
[06:38] <Simeon> hey .. i install printer canon mg5450 and print it ... but US Letter format stay in gray and no way to change A4
[06:38] <Simeon> please help
[06:38] <Simeon> any config file
[06:38] <GT|2> Hello. Is there a way to launch ubuntu 13.10 via mbr? I don't like grub that much
[06:39] <PatBateman> asdasdsdad: its 90 Euro + VAT :/ omg
[06:39] <asdasdsdad> what is???
[06:39] <asdasdsdad> the oracle jdk was free on my internets
[06:39] <Simeon> :(
[06:39] <PatBateman> nono the app I will try :)
[06:39] <asdasdsdad> ah
[06:39] <Simeon> help meeeeeee !!! :D
[06:39] <asdasdsdad> those capitalist pigs!
[06:39] <PatBateman> hehehe
[06:40] <ytw> sadpuppy, what are you sending
[06:40] <asdasdsdad> wbhat app is it?
[06:40] <PatBateman> professional IDE mainly for PHP developers
[06:41] <raj__> for a service(cassandra database) although a pid file exists but still on attempt to start service, it fails saying "* could not access pidfile for Cassandra"... checked folder permissions under /var/run(owner: root) , the subfolder cassandra is owned by cassandra user but still serivice cannot access pid file.. & the file exists as well..(as pid is shown in cat)..so why it says it can't access pid file?  & running  cassandra as a standalone process just work
[06:41] <raj__> s.. but not  just using "sudo service cassandra start"..! how to make this work ?
[06:41] <ytw> sadpuppy, can you put it on imgur?
[06:42] <Simeon> somebody can tell me how to change papper format on  glabels
[06:42] <Simeon> format is US letter and stay in gray not changable
[06:42] <Simeon> changeble
[06:43] <Simeon> changeble
[06:43] <aneks> does anyone know how I can purge the update selected in this screenshot? http://imagebin.org/299933
[06:47] <sqlnoob> well ok what is this /proc/kcore thing. its shown 128T
[06:47] <aneks> sudo apt-get purge libfreetype6 doesn't seem to work..
[06:47] <Simeon> there is my screenshot  http://46.249.91.54/Program/scr.png
[06:47] <Simeon> how can i change papper format  ?
[06:47] <sqlnoob> I understand this is virtual FS though
[06:48] <Simeon> aneks: this is part of another libary
[06:48] <aneks> Simeon, so you're saying that I can't remove that specific update?
[06:49] <Simeon> aneks: you will just find pakage
[06:49] <Simeon> i have big broblem wiht my new printer :D
[06:49] <Simeon> and anyone can't help me :D
[06:50] <Simeon> for fitst time i install printer and ..... voila works fine but papper format is not ghangeble
[06:50] <Simeon> changeble
[06:50] <aneks> good luck with that, gotta go to work
[06:51] <ubuntu> xpr
[06:51] <ubuntu> ip123456
[06:52] <ubuntu> #ubuntu
[06:52] <Simeon> ubuntu: can u help me ?
[06:52] <Guest13029> help me
[06:52] <Simeon> help me i m newbie :D
[06:52] <cfhowlett> Guest13029, common courtesy suggests you actually STATE the issue.  no mindreaders here.
[06:53] <Guest13029> #ubuntu
[06:53] <ubuntu__> msg
[06:53] <ubuntu__> mysts
[06:53] <ubuntu__> hi everone
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Simeon, see the about/support options for your app.  It
[06:54] <Simeon> cfhowlett: try to understand me ... i m tottaly noob :D
[06:55] <Simeon> i can see printer in all settings
[06:55] <Simeon> i don't understand from where i can configure just print A4 format
[06:58] <mx> hey everyone. can someone explain, why my stack in ubuntu is growing from lower to higher adresses?
[07:00] <asdasdsdad> mx: why does it matter?
[07:00] <onborad>  when I use virtualbox 4.2 version install fedora 18~20 finish. start OS always report "Oh on, Something has gone wrong. A problem  has occurred and the system can't  recover.Please  contect a system adminstrator"
[07:00] <mx> asdasdsdad: because of debugging and so on, but i think it doesnt matter..
[07:00] <cfhowlett> onborad, ask #vbox.  this is NOT an ubuntu issue
[07:02] <onborad> yes,but no body ans.
[07:02] <cfhowlett> onborad, sorry about that.  this is ubuntu support.  not fedora or virtualbox.
[07:03] <cfhowlett> onborad, ask #vbox or #fedora
[07:03] <Simeon> cfhowlett:  tell me how to change papper size
[07:03] <asdasdsdad> mx: i agree it doesnt matter
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !patience|Simeon,
[07:03] <Simeon> !cups cfhowlett
[07:04] <Simeon> !cups
[07:04] <Simeon> 1506 users and no one have printer canon ? :D
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Simeon, canon printers are known to have issues with linux.  HP printers generally have much better support.
[07:05] <onborad> cfhowlett, but I use ubuntu and from apt-get  install virtualbox 4.2.6 .
[07:05] <sanny1> hi i want want downgrade my gcc make from 4.x to 3.x,is it possible,what should i do?
[07:06] <Simeon> cfhowlett: I CAN PRINT ... but i can't change papper size
[07:06] <cfhowlett> onborad, again, you're trying to install fedora.  NOT AN UBUNTU ISSUE!  ask #vbox or ask #fedora for support
[07:06] <dem0n> okay...Linux is now reinstalled
[07:06] <cfhowlett> Simeon, see above "Patience" ...
[07:06] <dem0n> I swear if i have to do that again i am going to break my tablet! =)
[07:06] <Simeon> cfhowlett: mp240 canon works great  in ubuntu  not mine ...
[07:07] <Simeon> another friend
[07:07] <dem0n> hey has anyone heard anymore info about Ubuntu Touch?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !touch|dem0n,
[07:08] <dem0n> have they updated it for Jelly Bean or KitKat+ ?
[07:09] <Kartagis> testdisk doesn't read my partitions, it only sees the disk. how come?
[07:12] <arrith> Kartagis: might take a while
[07:12] <arrith> let it scan
[07:13] <arrith> there's also part something
[07:14] <Hyst> Hello! I'm a new user of ubuntu, Well, I say new. I mean I've only started to use it again. Back a few years ago, I remember the desktop environment looking very different, is there any way to get the LTS now to have a similar functionality to that?
[07:14] <Kartagis> arrith: http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/343/asv6.png
[07:14] <Ben64> !nounity | hyst
[07:15] <Kartagis> arrith: oh, testdisk can take an argument too
[07:15] <Kartagis> :)
[07:15] <jnhghy> Hi, I have ubuntu 12.04 and I'm thinking to make a distro upgrade, do I have to backup my data?
[07:15] <arrith> Kartagis: you have to select which disk you want it to scan
[07:16] <arrith> Kartagis: feel free to play around in testdisk, it warns you before it does any changes
[07:17] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, no one HAS to backup data and only the intelligent do so.
[07:17] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: thanks ...
[07:17] <arrith> 3 2 1 rule when making backups
[07:18] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: I don't feel like backing up my data if I install a new text editor ... but at a distro upgrade I thought I should ask ... do you backup your data at any change you do on your ubuntu?
[07:18] <Kartagis> arrith: thanks to me not looking before I do anything, my TV shows are gone
[07:19] <arrith> Kartagis: testdisk will probably get them
[07:19] <Kartagis> arrith: but how was I supposed to know my disk was mounted under guest account? :S
[07:19] <cfhowlett> jnhghy *any* change?  of course not!  upgrading?  absolutely.  that said, all of my essential data is in dropbox/ubuntuone
[07:19] <Ben64> jnhghy: what do you mean by "distro upgrade"
[07:20] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, installing a new text editor is a trivial system change - no backup required IMHO.  as always, YMMV
[07:21] <jnhghy> Ben64: upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10
[07:21] <Ben64> jnhghy: why would you do that? wait a month and upgrade straight to 14.04
[07:21] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, 12.10 is end of life ...
[07:21] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, what ben64 said ...
[07:22] <Guest89290> Hello all. I am new linux and was curious of which free virus protection is the best?
[07:22] <jnhghy> Ben64, cfhowlett: will I be able to upgrade from 12.04 straight to 14.04? I thought I'll have to upgrade step by step ...
[07:22] <cfhowlett> !virus|Guest89290,
[07:22] <Ben64> jnhghy: thats one of the main features of LTS, upgrades from one to the next
[07:22] <Hyst> Ooh, we're getting a new LTS in a month?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, set your update settings to LTS only and you can directly upgrade.  Personally, I do a clean install but that's just me.
[07:23] <Guest89290> Awesome. Thank you!
[07:23] <Ben64> every two years, yep. 8.04 -> 10.04 -> 12.04  -> 14.04
[07:23] <Kartagis> Hyst: given the release cycle, yes
[07:23] <cfhowlett> Hyst, yep. christmas time for those of us who do LTS only
[07:23] <Hyst> :3
[07:23] <jnhghy> cfhowlett, Ben64: thanks for straighten things out for me, have a nice one!
[07:23] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, have fun, be safe
[07:38] <adam_____> I bought my parents an Ubuntu touchscreen all in one Ubuntu system from system76. What laser printer would be best for them. My dad needs to print music notes a couple of times a week
[07:42] <adam_____> ?
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, laser printer?
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, why not inkjet?
[07:44] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, I used to sell printers, so I can give a decent recomendation
[07:44] <em_em> Hi. I am trying to install python-yaml on 13.10. However it errors out with 404 for the file libyaml-0-2_0.1.4-2ubuntu0.13.10.1_amd64.deb. I looked at the archive and it only contains such file 13.10.2 suffix. What is the difference from 13.10.1 and 13.10.2? How to upgrade to 13.10.2?
[07:45] <ra123445555> can anyone please give me an example of xml parsing in qt
[07:45] <arrith> em_em: you should use apt-get install python-yaml
[07:46] <akiva-mobile> em_em, You can also try synaptic; sometimes its helpful for strange packages like that,
[07:53] <mrmika> if i have lost my /boot  can i take it from another install, another computer, and plop it where it needs to go?
[07:53] <arrith> mrmika: you might be able to reinstall the relevant packages
[07:54] <Hempathy> Hi all, I'm looking for help with 14.04 issues
[07:54] <mrmika> the whole /boot is gone.
[07:54] <arrith> Hempathy: that's in #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <arrith> mrmika: are you booted into the system? do you know how /boot disappeared?
[07:54] <mrmika> i am. yes. it died when sudo rm -rf /boot was typed in....
[07:54] <Hempathy> thanks arrith
[07:55] <arrith> mrmika: i see, well don't reboot
[07:56] <mrmika> arrith: actually, i'm dumb. sorry, that command was done. if i list my / i do not see /boot right beside /bin (if you know what i mean)
[07:56] <mrmika> can i steal /boot of my live usbkey?
[07:57] <mrmika> *off my usb key
[07:57] <arrith> mrmika: you kind of need to regenerate it, which i think is possible
[07:57] <arrith> mrmika: what does the output of this command give you    uname -a
[07:57] <mrmika> Linux dell 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:59] <arrith> mrmika: ok do   sudo mkdir /boot
[07:59] <mrmika> done
[08:00] <mrmika> across the room is an install of a version - up to date of linuxmint  -- i wondering fi i can steal it's boot directory.
[08:00] <arrith> mrmika: then    sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic‎
[08:00] <mrmika> err, copy it.
[08:01] <mrmika> ok, doing that...
[08:01] <arrith> then just reinstalling grub which i'm looking up the command for now
[08:02] <arrith> mrmika: is your install on /dev/sda ?
[08:02] <Tha-Fox> hi! I just found a legacy 8.04.4 server that has upstart 0.3.9-2 installed. what is the proper way to disable a couple of services? the documentation I found talks about upstart 0.6.x and more recent versions
[08:02] <mrmika> arrith: es, it is.... i got this:
[08:02] <mrmika> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic‎
[08:02] <mrmika> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic‎'
[08:03] <arrith> Tha-Fox: removing the execute permission from the init script and doing    sudo service <service> stop    i think
[08:03] <Tasab> hi everyone , have been stuck (grub loader) tried to fix but  problem : hd8 can not get C/H/S values , how can i resolve pls - thanx
[08:04] <arrith> mrmika: maybe try       sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic
[08:04] <mrmika> arrith:  i searched for that package in synaptic, it did find it... i'll 'mark for installation"
[08:05] <mrmika> err, re-installation
[08:05] <arrith> mrmika: good
[08:05] <mrmika> the headers and the image
[08:05] <arrith> mrmika: then after that is done     sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[08:05] <mrmika> what about sudo update-grub ?   or, you saying grub is gone / toast now eh?
[08:06] <mrmika> uuuugh    E: linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 17
[08:06] <arrith> mrmika: yeah, the grub that used to live in /boot is gone heh
[08:06] <mrmika> synaptic is saying that....
[08:06] <arrith> mrmika: maybe try doing it from apt-get in a terminal then pasting the output on    http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <mrmika> well, i do get a terminal output from synaptic... i'll paste as you said.
[08:07] <arrith> mrmika: sure
[08:08] <mrmika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7112818/
[08:08] <mrmika> line 13 doesn't look happy...
[08:10] <arrith> mrmika: ok so be careful when you do this, but right click that linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic in synaptic and click "complete removal"
[08:10] <arrith> mrmika: then right after, install it
[08:10] <arrith> mrmika: or well
[08:10] <mrmika> roger
[08:10] <arrith> try reinstalling from a terminal first
[08:10] <arrith> since eh
[08:10] <arrith> removing a kernel is dangerous
[08:10] <mrmika> if i have to reinstall completely i don't really care...
[08:11] <mrmika> might just be simpler
[08:11] <arrith> mrmika: well once we get that kernel to install and then run that grub line, should all be fixed
[08:11] <arrith> actually
[08:11] <arrith> looks like it installed almost
[08:11] <mrmika> no worry. i'll try that first thought
[08:12] <arrith> mrmika: yeah try to reinstall that kernel.
[08:12] <mrmika> i have a live usb key handy, wish i could just plop it back where it came from....
[08:13] <arrith> mrmika: that might work, but you'd need to regen your initramfs anyway
[08:13] <arrith> uuids are different
[08:14] <mrmika> aye, that is hard for me... it's ok... i did the complete removal. right now it's reinstalling the img and the headers
[08:15] <arrith> mrmika: heh hope that works
[08:15] <arrith> mrmika: then do the grub install
[08:15] <arrith> i think that should work
[08:15] <raj__> is it safe to remove a process folder from /var/run/ if I think it has got wrong permissions, will it be recreated by process as before ?
[08:16] <arrith> raj__: it's better to rename than to remove. then you can rename it back
[08:16] <raj__> don't I lose any information by deleting /var/run/<process folder> when the process is not running??
[08:16] <mrmika> arrith: i do have files now in /boot.... i'll do the grub cmd...
[08:17] <mrmika> looks ok... now just a reboot?
[08:17] <raj__> arrith: after renaming if it works/ runs,, does that mean it has not lost any data ?
[08:17] <arrith> mrmika: yeah, that should do it i think
[08:17] <mrmika> and if not, a reinstall as i won't be back to cry.
[08:17] <arrith> raj__: it might still be open
[08:17] <arrith> mrmika: haha, well i'd like to hear if it works
[08:17] <mrmika> seems like it, but a lil above my expertise.... heh
[08:17] <mrmika> be back... might be 20 mins if it doesn't work....
[08:18] <arrith> mrmika: i think it will
[08:18] <arrith> raj__: on nix systems, if files are open they don't get deleted
[08:19] <arrith> mrmika: this all assumes you don't have a separate /boot partition, but i that is an unlikely setup
[08:19] <mrmika> i wouldn't have. i just put all partitions under / when i installed.
[08:19] <mrmika> thank you sir. mister arrith i be back....
[08:24] <arrith> hm, been a while
[08:32] <computa_mike> Are there any guides to reinstalling Ubuntu?  I have a couple of installs of ubuntu on my machine, and I'd like to consolidate to have a single home partition, and maybe 2 installs - I have a large 1tb usb disk to back stuff up, is there a way I can image the HDD so I can mount it again should I need to copy files?
[08:34] <antonanton> Hello Ubuntu!
[08:34] <antonanton> Anyone aroudn?
[08:37] <aeon-ltd> antonanton: nay
[08:37] <antonanton> I'm trying to map up userdrives to all users on a windows domain. With likewise I got the joining thing working, but I can't for my life get the mapping to work.
[08:37] <antonanton> Or, trying to map up Userfolders automatically*
[08:38] <antonanton> Has anyone done this before?
[08:41] <antonanton> I'll take that as everyones sleeping right now :-)
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[08:42] <DJones> sirius_: Please stop
[08:42] <antonanton> :o
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[08:56] <linocisco> hi all
[08:58] <linocisco> I have copied all files from /var/cache/apt/archives my one ubuntu computer with internet and take it home to install another with no internet. how can I install? apt-get install dont look at that path. how can I tell ubuntu ?
[08:58] <waxhead> I have a major RAID5 failure.... :(
[08:59] <llutz> linocisco: if you want to install all that: sudo dpkg -i /var/..../archives/*.deb
[08:59] <waxhead> active raid5 sdc1[4](S) sdd[0] sdb[3](F)
[08:59] <waxhead> 3907025920 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/1] [U__]
[08:59] <waxhead> anyone think I can recover from this?
[09:01] <linocisco> llutz, It was not installed
[09:01] <linocisco> llutz, dependencies are not installed
[09:02] <llutz> linocisco: run the dpkg ... multiple times
[09:02] <linocisco> llutz, run the same command multiple times?
[09:03] <llutz> linocisco: but it might fail if both machines have different packagesets installed, so your archives/* aren't containg all stuff you need.
[09:03] <llutz> !offline | linocisco
[09:06] <E911> Is there any reason I should buy a GTX 7xx over GTX 6xx for gaming on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <ikonia> is there any reason you'd consider ubuntu as a "gaming platform" ?
[09:08] <linocisco> llutz, synaptic is not found. only ubuntu software center is found
[09:08] <E911> ikonia: yeah, I my whole family uses Steam Ubuntu for gaming already lol
[09:08] <ikonia> so then why are you asking if you should get a better/worse card ?
[09:08] <ikonia> that's surly up to you knowing the game you play
[09:09] <E911> ikonia: I'm asking if the driver benefits of the new series make it better than 6xx really
[09:09] <E911> for example, nvidia has done a lot of driver updates these past few months
[09:09] <ikonia> if it's support of course it will
[09:09] <ikonia> it's a better hardware platform
[09:09] <ikonia> however if you see a difference will depend on your games/needs
[09:09] <ikonia> hence why only you can decide if you need one
[09:10] <llutz> linocisco: then get a list of missing dependencies and get those packages manually. good luck :)
[09:10] <linocisco> llutz, how to?
[09:10] <llutz> linocisco: dpkg tells you what's missing
[09:11] <llutz> linocisco: have you run it several times? have you read the errors and checked if those packages are really missing?
[09:13] <linocisco> llutz, dpkg status database is locked by another process
[09:14] <llutz> linocisco: another package-tool running? you copied the "lock" file with your debs?
[09:14] <linocisco> llutz, i dont know what lock file
[09:17] <llutz> linocisco: did you have another package tool like softwarecenter, aptitude running?
[09:18] <llutz> linocisco: exit, if so. then run "sudo dpkg -i /var...../*.deb" again. check the errors dpkg gives, it tells you what packages are missing, note them down
[09:19] <bobman_> does someone have recommendations for a really simple dns forwarder? I just want every dns call to forward to the next dns server for a small fake router that I need for a test here
[09:19] <llutz> bobman_: dnsmasq, dnsproxy
[09:34] <epinky> Hello, someone's got experience with freeradius?
[09:37] <epinky> !ping
[09:44] <adam_____> akiva-mobile: laser. Is cloud print OK these days? Couldn't get it to work last year on Ubuntu
[09:44] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, oh lol
[09:45] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, Why does he need laser, if hes only printing a few pages a week?
[09:45] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, Laser is for heavy duty.
[09:45] <adam_____> Ink sucks to replace
[09:45] <adam_____> Costs more after a year anyway
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, not really.
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, and inkjets are more weildly.
[09:46] <NeonThai> hi! nedd help. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. In network places i can see only my PC but other computers i can't see and access thair files
[09:47] <adam_____> I've had my hp last Jet 1020 for a decade + it seems. Still on original toner
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, Like, they are huge, heavy, and yah. It is true, that all printer companies make their money on ink
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, fair point. That is unusual for anyone to have a printer that long :P
[09:48] <adam_____> I'm more concerned about compatibility
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> adam_____, Well hp has the best drivers for linux
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> all in one printers tend to be plug and play with ubuntu
[09:49] <adam_____> What about all the cloud print shenanigans?
[09:49] <akiva-mobile> Can't honestly tell you, but I do not see what you would need with it.
[09:49] <adam_____> Ideally, even for myself, that should extend to printing from my Android tablet when I'm there
[09:49] <akiva-mobile> ah
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> akiva-mobile: I dunno, Brother are pretty decent
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> ActionParsnip, When I was working for HP, the linux drivers were just not there.  This was a few years ago
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> Brother only officially supported models for heavy duty equipment
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> and it was for redhad "officially"
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> so :P
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> redhat*
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> akiva-mobile: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> akiva-mobile: take your pick :)
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> I guess things change ~
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> in terms of quality, hp tended to be the best as well
[09:52] <akiva-mobile> Don't forget that they actually had their own unix operating system at one time, hp-ux
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> akiva-mobile: oh for sure but as with all technology, eventually what makes something stands out becomes the norm
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> akiva-mobile: hp ux had a release last year. They still have it ;)
[09:53] <akiva-mobile> ActionParsnip,  By your recomendation, he would probably be safe with brother or hp. I'd advise to avoid kodak, lexmark, dell (repackaged lexmarks), and any othe rbrand.
[09:53] <akiva-mobile> ActionParsnip, What? You are kidding me ?! I thought they were deader than dead
[09:54] <akiva-mobile> maybe I mixed them up with open solaris...
[09:54] <akiva-mobile> geez, havn't said that name in awhile..
[09:55] <akiva-mobile> Adam99, if you really want to lug a laserjet, go for it. I liked the all in one inkjets, because they were dirt cheap, easy to carry, looked nice, worked great with plug and play (scanner had no issues, unlike windows)
[09:56] <akiva-mobile> and I had to only print once in a blue moon
[09:56] <dawk> I stopped lightdm to disable GUI, ever since then I'm not able to login to my desktop
[09:56] <akiva-mobile> also, I could do photos, and colour from time to time.
[09:57] <dawk> after reboot, I can see the login screen, when I enter the password, I see the cursor, and the login screen comes back
[10:00] <simion314> hi, i have installed 14.04 in virtualbox,the host is 12.04 , after saving the state and closing virtualbox(the guest was not shutdown) when starting the machine the guest was frozen, any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> simion314, 14.04 support is in #ubuntu+1.  virtualbox support = #vbox
[10:01] <simion314> I use virtual machine to create some dev environment vith recent packages and other things that will not mess with my current stuff and that could be moved in future to other machine or new OS when I will upgrade
[10:02] <zetheroo1> I am trying to umount -f a mount ... but keep getting " Stale NFS file handle" messages ...
[10:02] <zetheroo1> is there another way to force the mount to unmount?
[10:07] <Arafangion> How do I create an Ubuntu USB stick?
[10:07] <grousey> Arafangion: which OS are you currently on?
[10:07] <Arafangion> The instructions provided are for windows, Do I just cp it over?
[10:07] <linuxuz3r_> are you in ubuntu
[10:07] <Arafangion> grousey: I'm on debian.
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !usb|Arafangion,
[10:09] <Arafangion> Hmm, usb-creator-gtk, I wonder if debian has that.
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Arafangion, unetbootin will work
[10:10] <Arafangion> Thanks, does it let me format it nicely so that I can put files onto the same USB stick?
[10:12] <Jagrati>  prayag u stated with doctor module
[10:14] <Arafangion> cfhowlett: unetbootin should do the trick, thanks - now all I have to do is wait for it to download.
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Arafangion, have fun, be safe
[10:15] <Arafangion> Classic situation here: girlfriend's windows laptop broke, on the day I'm sick.
[10:15] <Arafangion> cfhowlett: Thanks. :)
[10:15] <linocisco> hi all
[10:15] <fhf> Hi
[10:16] <ubuntugeek> What does sudo rm -rf do?
[10:16] <linocisco> aptoncd accept only CD. not iso file. When I click on "load" to restore. nothing appeared
[10:16] <Arafangion> ubuntugeek: What part of the command don't you understand?
[10:16] <fhf> ubuntugeek it deletes directory
[10:17] <YamakasY_> damn apf on a openvz vm is kinda an issue
[10:17] <ubuntugeek> And sudo rm -r recursively deletes a directory
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !danger|ubuntugeek,
[10:18] <ubuntugeek> Will that command destroy your computers as well?
[10:18] <fhf> If you pass / to it
[10:18] <Arafangion> ubuntugeek: That command can, yes, which was why I hestiated to give you the answer without ensuring you understood it.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> ubuntugeek, why are you even asking about it here?  go do some research on linux.com
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugeek: man rm    will show you
[10:18] <fhf> Removing / will breake your system
[10:18] <YamakasY_> anyone using apf here ?
[10:19] <YamakasY_> my iptables keep empty
[10:19] <Arafangion> (Incidentally, how big is a typical 32-bit ubuntu iso image?)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Arafangion: 700Mb
[10:19] <ubuntugeek> I suggest you reinstall the iptables package: sudo apt-get remove iptables, then sudo apt-get install iptables
[10:19] <Arafangion> Thanks. :) Half way downloaded, then.
[10:19] <Arafangion> ubuntugeek: What would that do?
[10:20] <fhf> YamakasY_ I use iptables on OpenVZ VM.
[10:20] <ubuntugeek> What does iptables do?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugeek: its a firewall solution
[10:20] <YamakasY_> fhf: mhh, do you have an /etc/init.d/iptables ?
[10:20] <YamakasY_> ActionParsnip: it the linux kernel firewall
[10:20] <YamakasY_> ubuntugeek: ^
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY_: indeed
[10:21] <YamakasY_> ubuntugeek: man how long are you here now ?
[10:21] <ubuntugeek> No, UFW is
[10:21] <YamakasY_> ubuntugeek: UFW is what ?
[10:21] <fhf> YamakasY_ : I use Iptables as a service package from launchpad
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !ufw
[10:21] <Arafangion> Apparently UFW is a frontend for iptables.
[10:21] <YamakasY_> indeed
[10:21] <ubuntugeek> OK
[10:21] <YamakasY_> same as apf
[10:21] <YamakasY_> but ufw has some limitations
[10:21] <ubuntugeek> What does APF stand for?
[10:22] <YamakasY_> ActionParsnip: can you restart iptables?
[10:22] <YamakasY_> ubuntugeek: google
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY_: yes
[10:22] <YamakasY_> ActionParsnip: which command ?
[10:22] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: iptables is built into the kernel, I don't think you can restart it as such. You can, however, flush all the rules, and do all kind of awesome stuff.
[10:22] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: Sadly, I never really learnt it. Too many things to do. Like cooking.
[10:22] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: on CentOS you can restart it
[10:23] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: haha
[10:23] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: CentOS probably has a service which happens to be called 'iptables'.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91413/reloading-iptables
[10:24] <YamakasY_> I don't have a filter, so that's why I ask
[10:24]  * YamakasY_ admins some quite nice clusters, but this is some nasty hired VM
[10:25] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: What's nasty about it?
[10:25] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: that I don't manage it and it's a prebuild image if you ask me
[10:26] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: I love prebuilt images.  Not my responsibility. :)  Submit a bug. :)
[10:26] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: doesn't matter... I want to fix this
[10:26] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: My condolences.
[10:26] <YamakasY_> nothing in init.d no filter, firewall, iptables
[10:26] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: nobody died yet
[10:27] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: Anyway, the firewall is built into the kernel.  If the system doesn't have any "firewall" installed, then you can load one up using a script.
[10:27] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: yes but some refress/flush command would be nice
[10:27] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: I would expect that most iptables scripts do little more than flush all the rules, then load them up again, although there's a few caveats in mind if you want to have your ssh session survive the reset...
[10:29] <YamakasY_> I wonder what apf is doing
[10:29] <YamakasY_> it should maintain the iptables in my opinion
[10:31] <YamakasY_> fix your connection.... man I'm traveling also a lot
[10:33] <fhf> YamakasY_ you will love my IPAAS (iptables as a service) you can find it here ppa:rri/ipaas once installed you save your rules to /etc/ipaas and then sudo service ipaas {start,stop,restart}
[10:33] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: Sorry, I can't pay attention - hope you get to the bottom of it.
[10:33] <Arafangion> fhf: Does that preserve existing connections such as ssh?
[10:33] <Arafangion> fhf: As that's an important consideration. :)
[10:34] <YamakasY_> fhf: does it work with fail2ban ?
[10:34] <fhf> YamakasY_ it just start rules saved to file on boot
[10:35] <fhf> So you have full freedom of iptables
[10:35] <YamakasY_> fhf: I need something realtime
[10:36] <Arafangion> YamakasY_: Then learn iptables.
[10:36] <fhf> Arafangion if you save rules that allow SSH...
[10:37] <Arafangion> fhf: Ah, so it doesn't flush them, then block all by default, and then restore the rules? Good.
[10:37] <YamakasY_> Arafangion: can't do and don't need to... I actually know a little but I use dedicated ones
[10:39] <fhf> Arafangion if you stop ipaas (sudo service ipaas stop) it flush all rules. And when you start (sudo service ipaas start) it loads rules from /etc/ipaas
[10:40] <Arafangion> fhf: Simple and elegant.
[10:40] <YamakasY_> ah kewl working
[10:40] <Arafangion> fhf: Back in the day I used to use shorewall.
[10:41] <fhf> Arafangion I done research and found nothing interesting so I created my own package. lol
[10:42] <Arafangion> fhf: It doesn't seem that hard, once you know iptables. :)  Never did learn iptables, though...  The various frontends were Good Enough for me.
[10:42] <YamakasY_> kewl it works... I banned myself :D
[10:44] <Humbedooh> YamakasY_: welcome to the club!
[10:44] <YamakasY_> Humbedooh: hehe, no it's in devmode and I have access :)
[10:44] <YamakasY_> Humbedooh: I kinda know what I'm doing since a while ;)
[10:44]  * YamakasY_ runs a 200-400 server cluster
[10:44] <YamakasY_> but apf has been some time
[10:45] <Humbedooh> pretty sure every sysadmin has locked themselves out of their system at some point ;)
[10:46] <Humbedooh> then comes the fun in trying to get back in - sure, you can do rescue mode, but that's cheating
[10:46] <Arafangion> Nah, that's not cheating.
[10:46] <YamakasY_> Humbedooh: no this was needed, I was checking logs on ssh and wanted to see if that connection was terminated when I did a fail2ban
[10:47] <YamakasY_> can do 2 things, wait 10 min or connect over another IP :D
[10:47] <YamakasY_> or from another IP
[10:47] <YamakasY_> 3 options
[10:47] <YamakasY_> I know admins that don't have even 1 option :D
[10:48] <YamakasY_> have 1 option...
[10:48] <YamakasY_> man my lines lack these days
[10:51] <ubuggin> this command doesnt work for me sudo apt-get install firestarter ??
[10:52] <ubuggin> it seems its not available in ubuntu 13.10 repository   , is it ??
[10:52] <cfhowlett> ubuggin, terminal: apt-cache policy firestarter
[10:53] <DJones> ubuggin: Looks right, 13.10 doesn't list the package as available
[10:53] <YamakasY_> ubuggin: you don't want to use firestarter I have read
[10:53] <DJones> ubuggin: Firestarter is therefore deemed abandoned software and has been removed from Ubuntu repositories as of 13.10 Saucy Salamander. See bug #1183651. For an overview of alternative applications, see Firewall.
[10:53] <nicksve> !ufw | ubuggin
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !firewall
[10:53] <nicksve> wtf?
 then how to install it manually ??
[10:54] <YamakasY_> Rory: that means What The F*ck
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !language
[10:54] <linocisco> hi all
 I need it !
[10:54] <linocisco> what can i install to use google talk with voice on ubuntu? pidgin? or
[10:55] <cfhowlett> ubuggin, firestarter is abandoned.  not safe, not supported.
[10:55] <DJones> ubuggin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter That suggests a method of installing, but you'll have to remember it wouldn't be supported for 13.10
[10:55] <YamakasY_> ubuggin: and ufw is very limited
[10:56] <YamakasY_> ubuggin: http://www.configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[10:56] <cfhowlett> ubuggin, firewall builder and firewall configuration are options
[10:59] <varikonniemi> where can i talk about 14.04 development?
[10:59] <DJones> varikonniemi: #ubuntu+1 is the best place
[10:59] <varikonniemi> thanks
[10:59] <YamakasY_> ubuggin: apf
[11:00] <YamakasY_> ubuggin: apf-firewall is in repo
[11:02] <prawnsalad> hello. are there any recommendations for a firewall web frontend to a ubuntu 12.04 server? i have 6 boxes i need to manage it on
[11:03] <prawnsalad> or a cluster tool to manage them from a central location even
[11:03] <linocisco> our proxy needs wpad authentication . how can I setup on browser?
[11:04] <tytan> whats up?
[11:04] <tytan> did anyone switch to kernel 3.13-1?
[11:04] <thiefy> arrith: it didn't work. reinstalled though, no problem....
[11:07] <arrith> thiefy: aw dang
[11:07] <arrith> sry about that
[11:08] <arrith> thiefy: i have to try that sometime, since i so think that fix should've worked
[11:08] <thiefy> that's ok... i just had installed anyway...
[11:08] <thiefy> grub got mad on boot
[11:09] <thiefy> i bet i coulda done some grubby command, but i didn't know what to do... and i had my usb key ready to go anyways...
[11:11] <aki_pt> hi folks
[11:12] <akiva-mobile> aki_pt, hey o_O
[11:13] <akiva-mobile> aki_pt, are you also an akiva?
[11:13] <parapan> hy everyone ...can someone support an issue with mysql and phpmyadmin ?
[11:14] <aki_pt> akiva-mobile: 4/5 are :)
[11:14] <akiva-mobile> akira?
[11:14] <aki_pt> i would like to set up an owncloud client on ubuntu 13.4. problem is i dont have root rights.
[11:15] <aki_pt> the guys from the owncloud channel told me to extract the bin files from the deb file
[11:15] <aki_pt> but i get dependency error. is there a smoother way to set it up ?
[11:15] <akiva-mobile> aki_pt, why no root?
[11:16] <aki_pt> pc in the university lab
[11:16] <cfhowlett> aki_pt, 13.04 is no longer supported = end of life
[11:16] <akiva-mobile> aki_pt, ah. Yah my advice; contact your local admin :P
[11:17] <aki_pt> akiva-mobile: hihi, sounds like a windows error code :) dam, i hopped there is a easier solution.
[11:18] <akiva-mobile> aki_pt, What about building the dependencies from source?
[11:18] <akiva-mobile> actually
[11:18] <akiva-mobile> wait, what am I saying :P sudo make install
[11:18] <TJ-> aki_pt: Are you able to use a chroot (which would allow you to use a supported Ubuntu version) ?
[11:18] <akiva-mobile> ^
[11:19] <ilhami> Wheezy and squeeze ? What does these mean?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> ilhami, means you're not looking at ubuntu = debian
[11:20] <tytan> these are the codenames for the stable debian releases.
[11:20] <DJones> ilhami: They're versions of Debian, probably best joining #debian to get a good explanation of the differences
[11:20] <tytan> squeeze = debian 6 and wheezy = debian 7
[11:20] <aki_pt> TJ-: i dont now the chroot command. but yes i can call call it in the terminal
[11:20] <ilhami> does Varnish exist for Ubuntu??
[11:20] <aki_pt> know
[11:21] <TJ-> aki_pt: chroot would require you have sudo privileges, which was why I asked the questin
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ilhami, yes
[11:21] <ilhami> why am I unable to find it?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ilhami, terminal: apt-cache policy varnish
[11:21] <aki_pt> akiva-mobile: to build from sources i need tools like cmake...not installed
[11:22] <ilhami> cfhowlett you sure we are speaking about the same software?
[11:22] <BenBE> Given a set of RFC822-formatted files with mails to send: How to do this most efficient? (About 71 files)
[11:22] <ilhami> HTTP accelerator?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> ilhami, varnish shows up in 12.04 repos.
[11:23] <linocisco> what is Super+Space?
[11:23] <ilhami> Windows button + space
[11:24] <Guest88009> hey
[11:25] <Guest88009> anyone here that can help out with wow?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest88009,
[11:26] <bazhang> !wow > Guest88009
[11:28] <Guest88009> okay thanks, so im really new to ubuntu, and the problem i got is that im tryin to download WoW from the battle.net launcher, got so far to have it as an exe file that ive tried to launch with wine, but the launher just stoppes midway thru with  Error Codes: BLZPTS00007, BLZAPPBTS00007, BLZBNTBTS00007, have trie aswell to download it with Playonlinux without success
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Guest88009, see the wine channel for support installing WOW
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !wine
[11:30] <Guest88009> alright thank you
[11:32] <Arr0way> I assume ubuntu is ok with me placing /boot inside of lvm these days ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !lvm|arr
[11:32] <Rory> Arr0way: Your bootloader needs to be on an actual partition
[11:34] <ilhami> !patience
[11:36] <gry> hi! how can I install firefox 30+ on ubuntu? I have some 'firefox-trunk' but after updating it's still version 27
[11:36] <jjavaholic> this driver is activated but not currently in use nvidia 3.19-updates what is going on here?
[11:38] <Arafangion> *sigh*, I wonder how many more of these files I could've rescued if windows did NOT go into "auto-recovery" mode.
[11:39] <Arafangion> Why don't people ever learn: If a HDD is crashing...  STOP.
[11:40] <jjavaholic> HDD drives aren't cheap
[11:41] <Arafangion> They are.
[11:41] <ilhami> they are
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> they are
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> 45 quid for 1Tb SATA drive, pretty cheap
[11:43] <Arafangion> The data on them, on the other hand, is worth much more.
[11:45] <marz> Joy!!
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> thats why we have backups of important data
[11:46] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, eh?  what is this "backup" you speak of?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:46] <jjavaholic> I remember paying thinking 80-120 was cheap for 1TB
[11:46] <Arafangion> ActionParsnip: True, but that doesn't help if the files you need are newer than the backup. :)
[11:46] <thoonai> backup? better buy beer then backup drive #yolo
[11:47] <thoonai> Arafangion: therefor: cronjob hourly, every minute ...
[11:48] <thoonai> Arafangion: or this file status changing supervisin daemon
[11:48] <Aqui1a> Hello
[11:49] <thoonai> Aqui1a: hi
[11:49] <Aqui1a> I was just wondering, which nVidia driver should I select?
[11:49] <Aqui1a> :)
[11:50] <Aqui1a> thoonai: 'ello
[11:51] <thoonai> Aqui1a: it depends on what you need, if you just want to display your desktop. stick with nouveau driver, if you need 3D acceleration, you probably need the propriatary one
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Arafangion: then you need to rethink your backup
[11:52] <Aqui1a> thoonai: Thanks for the response! I think I might need the propriatary one, as I play a lot of L4D2 lol. I just don't know which one, as there are 4 options in the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[11:52] <lancro> the problem is, that at boot, the system will hang on a tty for 20 seconds
[11:53] <bhavesh> i have a efi enabled laptop. initially i had windows 8.1, i wanted to dual boot so i disabled secure boot, opted for legacy boot and installed ubuntu 12.04.4. now grub won't detect my windows 8.1. help
[11:53] <lancro> I use the propietary drivers because I play painkiller
[11:53] <lancro> and Ive tried all of them is the price to pay
[11:53] <Aqui1a> lancro: which proprietary drivers did you select?
[11:53] <Aqui1a> lol
[11:54] <lancro> Now I use the tested and verified ones, 316
[11:54] <lancro> Ive tried the 4 of them
[11:54] <Aqui1a> I have three (proprietary) and one (proprietary, tested)
[11:54] <Aqui1a> Ah ok.
[11:54] <Aqui1a> I'll start with the tested one lol
[11:54] <lancro> it works nice with games
[11:55] <Aqui1a> What's the difference between 304, 316, 319 etc?
[11:55] <thoonai> Aqui1a: 319 should be the newest
[11:56] <Aqui1a> thoonai: Ah good, 'cause that's the tested one. Brilliant.
[12:02] <bhavesh> anyone? i have a efi enabled laptop. initially i had windows 8.1, i wanted to dual boot so i disabled secure boot, opted for legacy boot and installed ubuntu 12.04.4. now grub won't detect my windows 8.1. help
[12:04] <Rory> !grub | bhavesh First, try the first link here
[12:04] <bhavesh> Rory: i tried grub-update didn't work
[12:04] <bhavesh> and my grub is fine
[12:04] <bhavesh> it is just that grub isn't detecting windows partition
[12:05] <Rory> bhavesh: Can you see your Windows partition and browse its files when you are in Ubuntu?
[12:05] <bhavesh> Rory: yes
[12:05] <bhavesh> all partitions are visible accessible (rw+wr permissions) grub just won't detect them
[12:06] <TJ-> bhavesh: If you've installed Ubuntu in legacy mode, then grub-pc will be installed, and (its) os-prober logic will be looking for a BIOS/MBR Windows bootloader signature but you've got an EFI signature
[12:06] <Rory> bhavesh: Can you follow the instructions on using boot-repair here [ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ] and let me know the resulting URL, which contains information helpful for diagnostics
[12:06] <bhavesh> TJ-: what do you suggest i should do
[12:06] <TJ-> bhavesh: Install Ubuntu in EFI mode
[12:06] <Rory> !efi | bhavesh I think there's some useful stuff on this page
[12:07] <TJ-> bhavesh: Or, remove grub-pc and install grub-efi
[12:07] <bhavesh> TJ-: let me look that tup
[12:07] <bhavesh> Rory: thanks. let me read
[12:08] <bhavesh> TJ-: i would have to enable EFI in boot menu before i install grub-efi right?
[12:08] <cateract> Hello
[12:08] <TJ-> bhavesh: I dealt with this issue in-depth a few months ago, so got intimately familiar with how os-prober and grub-{efi,pc} detect Windows in both legacy and EFI boot modes
[12:08] <cateract> I'm trying to dual boot my pc with ubuntu and windows 8
[12:08] <sydney> Is there any way that I can keep LXDE from showing the 24 hour time format?
[12:08] <bhavesh> TJ-: is there a guide on how to do this
[12:08] <cateract> But now the Usbdrive is  not detecting
[12:09] <Rory> cateract: How far have you got?
[12:09] <Rory> !usb | cateract: Could this wiki page be useful?
[12:10] <str3> anyone here use jailkit?
[12:10] <cateract> Rory, Actually i'm trying to reinstall ubuntu, but now usb is not detecting
[12:11] <Rory> cateract: I'm not sure what you mean by "usb is not detecting" that's why I'm asking for more information
[12:11] <Rory> cateract: have you created a bootable USB flash drive with the Ubuntu live media on it? How did you do that? What program?
[12:11] <cateract> Rory, unetbooin
[12:12] <Rory> cateract: Is your computer set to boot from the USB drive first? You may have to set that option in the BIOS
[12:12] <sydney> Does anyone know how to change LXDE normal time format from 24 hour to 12 hour?
[12:12] <Rory> cateract: Otherwise it will boot straight from the normal hard drive
[12:12] <Seus> So I tried installing the NVIDIA 331.49 drivers and rebooted, everything was seeming ok. Tried to add a 2nd gpu, rebooted everything ok. nvidia-settings detected it. I tried to setup Xinerama, saved the config file, rebooted, couldn't login to the desktop. Would just hang at a black screen with a cursor. Went to recovery mode, root shell. Reinstalled NVIDIA driver (Xinerama's disabled by default), rebooted same issue. Tried to remove NVIDIA driver a
[12:12] <Seus> install nvidia-current. Same issue. Removed NVIDIA all together, nothing. Tried reinstalling the base packages, and now i can't even get to the login screen. Just flashes the cursor for a second and then goes into this endless cycle of trying to pull up the login screen. Any ideas?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Seus: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig  then reboot
[12:13] <Rory> sydney: I used the popular Internet search engine "Google" and searched for "LXDE change time format" - this was the first link. I hope it's what you need. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=43841
[12:14] <cateract> Rory, it is, but still it is booting win8
[12:14] <bhavesh> Rory: that link was helpful thank you
[12:15] <cateract> Rory, win8 was already installed in my laptop
[12:15] <Rory> cateract: My preferred tool for creating bootable Ubuntu flash drives from Windows is "Linux Live USB" - it hasn't let me down so far: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[12:15] <cateract> Rory, I've changed the boot order of devices, And even now win8 is booting directly
[12:16] <cateract> Rory, Okey let me give it a try. Thanks anyways
[12:16] <Seus> still same issue....screen flashes...see an NVIDIA logo kind of, some text, and then it flashes back again
[12:16] <cateract> Rory, But is it really the problem of booting package
[12:17] <cateract> Rory, I mean the error is in very early stages. USB is not detecting.
[12:17] <hounddog> hi guys... my system seems to be borked as when i try to start it hangs at "loading initial ramdisk"... i just booted via livecd and trying to solve this issue. maybee i could get some pointers. Also i have not run any update yesterday
[12:18] <cateract> Rory, Is there any other setting in bios or is it possible that this might be the problem of USB drive
[12:18] <cateract> Rory, But i've done this thing with the same USB earlier
[12:19] <TJ-> hounddog: I'd guess at kernel or initrd corruption/truncation ... check the free-space of the file-system containing /boot/ ... the message "loading initial ramdisk" somes from the bootloader (GRUB) after which the kernel sohuld take over. If it isn't getting that far, then the kernel image is broken in all likelyhood.
[12:20] <cateract> Rory, Or is it because of the fact that win8 does not allow dual boot. And some other changes are required to made to make this happen
[12:20] <hounddog> TJ-: let me check... not sure how yet
[12:21] <hounddog> am really a novice when it comes to this stuff
[12:21] <cateract> Rory, are you there?
[12:22] <maerlyn> hello
[12:22] <hounddog> TJ-: sorry for beeing stupid but how can i check that...
[12:24] <TJ-> hounddog: Identify where the installed system's root file-system is, then mount it temporarily, then you can use "df" to see how much space is allocated/free, and also look at the mounted FS in its "boot/" directory to see the sizes of the kernels and initrd images, and compare them to known good images
[12:25] <hounddog> TJ-: ok... il try to find how to identify that
[12:25] <TJ-> hounddog: Did you try starting the system using the "Recovery" option? If so, did it fail in the same way? Failure would indicate that corruption of one of those images is the culprit
[12:25] <hounddog> TJ-: yes
[12:26] <hounddog> TJ-: tried and failed in the same way
[12:26] <cateract> ubottu, Actually I think the problem is with detection of USB.
[12:26] <hounddog> i tried with multiple kernels
[12:26] <TJ-> hounddog: Do you know if, when Ubuntu was installed, you put "/boot/" into a separate file-system?
[12:26] <hounddog> TJ-: i dont really remember anymore
[12:26] <cateract> ubottu, As the device is not even detecting while tried to boot for installation in boot menu, the forth installation process is stalled
[12:27] <Jenya-2> hi :)
[12:27] <TJ-> hounddog: If multiple kernel's failed corruption is less likely. Each kernel version has its own kernel and initrd image pair of files, and when truncation due to out-of-space occurs, then usually only the latest kernel version is affected.
[12:27] <cateract> ubottu, So have i missed to make some settings before trying to boot from USB
[12:28] <Jenya-2> I can't view other PC in local network from my Ubuntu. Samba installed. help
[12:28] <TJ-> hounddog: How many hard drives does the PC have? Is the installed system on /dev/sda? If so, you can start by discovering the partitions on that drive with "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" (or "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" if its an EFI install)
[12:28] <hounddog> TJ-: i had about 8 kernels to start from so i tried multiple
[12:29] <hounddog> it is an efi install and 1 hard disk but multiple partitions windows/ubuntu dual boot
[12:29] <TJ-> hounddog: having more kernels tends to point towards an out-of-space corruption issue especially if "/boot/" has its own file-system
[12:29] <hounddog> TJ-: could be possible
[12:29] <TJ-> hounddog: OK: "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" *should* list the partitions. Tell us how many partitions that reports
[12:30] <hounddog> doesnt know bout gdisk
[12:30] <hounddog> but wait
[12:31] <cateract> ubottu, but what i'm asking is, is there any boot setting to be changed in order to get it right? For earlier, I didn't mean that, sorry if you are hurt. :)
[12:31] <momo_eleven> i installed xubuntu where i can find the standard xubuntu xfce menu?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> momo_eleven: on the xfpanel
[12:32] <Aqui1a> I've tried those nvidia drivers in L4D2 and it was just so laggy!
[12:32] <DJones> cateract: ubottu is a bot, she won't be hurt, but she won't be able to reply to what you're asking, just ask the questions in the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help
[12:32] <momo_eleven> okay i trie to add the menu
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> momo_eleven: you'll need to log in to the XFCE session
[12:32] <hounddog> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/zB3HjXBW
[12:32] <cateract> DJones, I got it after i replied her. Thanks
[12:33] <niklare> exit
[12:33] <TJ-> hounddog: OK, /dev/sda5 looks like your Ubuntu install; /dev/sda6 is the GRUB BIOS partition I'd guess.
[12:34] <TJ-> hounddog: "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" should confirm it's a Linux file-system, probably ext4
[12:34] <hounddog> TJ-: i must say thx for your help but i dont understand how you recognise sda5 or 6 from that information :)
[12:34] <TJ-> hounddog: If so, then do "sudo mkdir /mnt/target" then "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/target"
[12:34] <thoonai> Aqui1a: you tried all?
[12:35] <TJ-> hounddog: You queried the device /dev/sda, and the column "Number" is the partition number, so you put them together
[12:35] <ilhami> anybody here?
[12:35] <hounddog> TJ-: ahh got it
[12:35] <Aqui1a> thoonai: I'm about to try nvidia-319-updates instead of nvidia-319
[12:35] <ilhami> how do I transfer a file from local PC to remote ssh?
[12:35] <Aqui1a> thoonai: I think I need to restart as L4D2 can't find OpenGL entry point
[12:35] <Aqui1a> brb!
[12:35] <ilhami> the remote server is ubuntu server
[12:36] <hounddog> TJ-: and yes was ext4 have mounted that now also
[12:36] <TJ-> hounddog: Once you've done the mount, you can do "df /dev/sda5" and show us the results
[12:36] <thoonai> ilhami: scp localfile youruser@remotemachine:/whereitgoes
[12:37] <momo_eleven> the xfce menu trick does not work, any other cinclusions to get the std xubuntu xfce menu?
[12:37] <ilhami> in the SSH client right? thoonai
[12:37] <TJ-> hounddog: We're interested in the "Use%" value... if its at or close to 100% then out-of-space is likely, if not, we look deeper
[12:37] <thoonai> ilhami: whats your system working on?
[12:37] <hounddog> TJ-: 42 %
[12:37] <hounddog> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/YV8rk8z1
[12:37] <ilhami> windows thoonai
[12:37] <ilhami> and my server is Ubuntu
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> momo_eleven: did yu log off and log in to the xfce session?
[12:38] <thoonai> ilhami: I don't know how to opereate windows. how to transfer data to an ubuntu server from windows is a windows problem not an ubuntu one ;)
[12:39] <hounddog> TJ-: i have been reading and also see some issues with video driver but i have not updated anything at all yesterday so i dont think that that would be the problem either
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: could use filezilla if you have ssh server installed
[12:40] <momo_eleven> ActionParsnip: yes i did - no good menu, good to knoe where the dt menu file exists
[12:40] <momo_eleven> the std menu file
[12:41] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: redirect to ilhami please, it was his question
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: could use filezilla if you have ssh server installed
[12:41] <Aqui1a> thoonai: Yeah.. it's still quite laggy
[12:41] <Jarle_> is there a way to let a user from a group have access to the files of all users in the same group?
[12:41] <Aqui1a> thoonai: It's absolutely fine when I run it on Windows
[12:41] <Jarle_> really, share all files between users in a group
[12:42] <thoonai> Aqui1a: my guesses: first: the driver is not as powerful as under windows second some other thing is blocking it
[12:43] <Aqui1a> thoonai: Yeah. I'm going to try the 304-updates one now
[12:43] <ilhami> will try ActionParsnip
[12:43] <Aqui1a> thoonai: Hopefully it'll help.. Not too optimistic though lol D:
[12:44] <thoonai> Aqui1a: you could play something whuch is more fun like bzglag or nexuiz
[12:44] <thoonai> Aqui1a: or openarena
[12:45] <Aqui1a> thoonai: It's alright, luckily I've got a dual-boot with L4D2 installed on the windows bit lol
[12:45] <TJ-> hounddog: OK, let's look a the sizes of the files in /boot/ "sudo ls -latr /mnt/target/boot/"
[12:45] <Walex> Aqui1a: L4D2 works fairly well for me on ULTS12.04
[12:45] <Aqui1a> thoonai: I mainly wanted to use Linux to get used to it.. I was just hoping to try L4D2 to see it perform better as I thougth it would
[12:46] <hounddog> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/wFxiKSVR
[12:46] <Aqui1a> Walex: Really? What drivers are you using?
[12:46] <Aqui1a> Walex: And when you say fairly well, do you mean you still get a good amount of lag spikes?
[12:46] <snizzo> gluon
[12:46] <dupingping> Hi
[12:47] <Walex> Aqui1a: I have AMD proprietary drivers on a 7850
[12:47] <dupingping> Hi christopher Nielsen
[12:47] <Jarle_> is it advisable to create another user with the same access to everything as a www, jboss, or tomcat user (for example)
[12:47] <dupingping> what are you doing now?
[12:47] <Walex> Aqui1a: I don't particularly noticed lag spiked but not looking for them either.
[12:47] <Jarle_> have multiple people using the same machine, but all under same login at the moment
[12:47] <hounddog> TJ-: if i understand you right you are looking at the kernels and comparing the size t a good image right?
[12:47] <Walex> Aqui1a: I play mostly TF2 though and it seems responsibe enough.
[12:47] <Aqui1a> Walex: Oh right, you'd definitely notice these ones! haha
[12:48] <Aqui1a> Walex: I see
[12:48] <TJ-> hounddog: Yes, the vmlinuz* (the kernels) and the initial ramdisks (initrd.img.*)
[12:48] <Aqui1a> Walex: I wonder if AMD has better support for linux
[12:48] <hounddog> TJ-: thx, at least learning something here :)
[12:48] <thoonai> Aqui1a: whats your graphics card anyway?
[12:48] <Walex> Aqui1a: but it is a very quiet system otherwise. I noticed lag when some of my disks went to sleep because of power sabing.
[12:48] <Aqui1a> thoonai: nVidia GTX 460
[12:48] <thoonai> u
[12:48] <Walex> Aqui1a: actually the AMD proprietary drivers are OK, but nowhere as good as the nVidia ones.
[12:48] <TJ-> hounddog: let me see the grub config file: "pastebinit /mnt/target/boot/grub/grub.cfg" should do it
[12:49] <Walex> Aqui1a: for running Steam it is *very* important to use the 'lts-saucy' backports of Mesa and Xorg
[12:49] <Aqui1a> Walex: Not sure what they are or how I'd do that, but I'll give it a quick Google
[12:50] <hounddog> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113899/
[12:50] <Walex> c
[12:50] <shinj-san> Hello all!
[12:50] <sqlnoob> I've this amazing problem where df -h shows 99% disk usage but df -i shows more than 80% inode free. What could be the possible problem?
[12:50] <thoonai> ok that probably schould run
[12:50] <cheter> Hi)
[12:50] <Walex> Aqui1a: I have written a small intro on that, and I am about to write more details, I'll followup up with a couple of links, wait a moment.
[12:51] <deneme232323kjka> HEY
[12:51] <TJ-> hounddog: and tell me what this shows: "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" so I can reconcile the UUID values of the file-systems
[12:51] <deneme232323kjka> HEYYY
[12:51] <rypervenche> sqlnoob: You have very large files taking up your disk space.
[12:51] <Walex> Aqui1a: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/13-two.html#131226
[12:51] <hounddog> TJ-: /dev/sda5: UUID="b40cd4ed-0453-498b-b769-5a6579d8a060" TYPE="ext4"
[12:51] <Walex> Aqui1a: that is quite AMD specific though
[12:52] <TJ-> hounddog: good; that matches the value in the GRUB config file
[12:52] <sqlnoob> rypervenche: why would then du -sh show just show actual disk space usage?
[12:52] <sqlnoob> I did du -sh /
[12:52] <thoonai> deneme232323kjka: if you post your porblem, someone eventually will answer
[12:52] <rypervenche> sqlnoob: Is it not the same as df's result?
[12:52] <Aqui1a> Walex: Thanks I'll have a read
[12:52] <eliseo> need for speed
[12:52] <deneme232323kjka> i accidentaly removed /bin/poweroff, what to do now?
[12:52] <hounddog> TJ-: but that also means the problem is somewhere else :)
[12:52] <sqlnoob> rypervenche: nope. That's what I can't understand
[12:52] <shinj-san> Has anyone heard any news about 32-bit UEFI compatibility?
[12:53] <TJ-> hounddog: When you tried the boot of "recovery mode" did anything display at all, after you saw the "loading initial ramdisk", did it freeze, did the PC spontaneously restart?
[12:53] <sqlnoob> I don't know maybe possible disk failure?
[12:53] <eliseo> !list
[12:53] <shinj-san> I have one of those Dell Venue 8 Pro's that I would like to put ubuntu on.  Windows 8 is absolutely MISERABLE
[12:53] <rypervenche> sqlnoob: You may have a file that has been deleted, but still exists on your system. Run "sudo lsof | grep -i delete"
[12:53] <thoonai> deneme232323kjka: what?
[12:53] <hounddog> TJ-: it just freezes at that point
[12:53] <rypervenche> sqlnoob: And pastebin the output for us.
[12:53] <jasabelle> hi :) im trying to get my printer connected to my ubuntu server on lpt port to work with samba
[12:53] <ilhami> is a .bin file runnable?
[12:53] <deneme232323kjka> tried if it will be removed or not
[12:53] <deneme232323kjka> and it did
[12:53] <shinj-san> ilhami, yes they are
[12:54] <sqlnoob> sure rypervenche. Thanks
[12:54] <jasabelle> im following the instructions on nthe ubuntu help pages but not getting anywerhe
[12:54] <deneme232323kjka> shoult i install coreutils again?
[12:54] <shinj-san> make sure the permissions are right though.  chmod +x will make it execuatable
[12:54] <TJ-> hounddog: OK, let's see if there's anything in the log-files to help here: "pastebinit /mnt/target/var/log/kern.log" to start with
[12:54] <ilhami> shinj-san okay nice. So I am downloading Oracle Weblogic server now. I can just run it by running script
[12:54] <thoonai> ilhami: depends on the executable flag, if it is set then it is if not, then its not executable
[12:54] <hounddog> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113919/
[12:55] <shinj-san> more accurately chmod +x  filename.bin
[12:55] <sqlnoob> thanks rypervenche. I got it.
[12:55] <sqlnoob> thanks
[12:55] <thoonai> deneme232323kjka: that could help
[12:55] <ilhami> thanks.
[12:55] <sqlnoob> the nasty log file I believed I deleted it
[12:55] <rypervenche> sqlnoob: You may need to restart a service that is still holding onto the file handle.
[12:55] <sqlnoob> yep thanks rypervenche :)
[12:55] <ilhami> thanks shinj-san
[12:55] <shinj-san> np
[12:55] <deneme232323kjka> thoonai: will you go on?
[12:56] <thoonai> ilhami: if you can get a terminal on your remote server, you can execute ls -la and if the flag is 'x'its executable
[12:56] <thoonai> deneme232323kjka: ?
[12:56] <hounddog> TJ-: nothing from today as seems
[12:57] <deneme232323kjka> thoonai: can i install only poweroff file in core utils?
[12:57] <thoonai> deneme232323kjka: I never heard of that problem ever so I have to check myself how to help you ^^
[12:58] <ilhami> thoonai okay :D
[12:58] <TJ-> hounddog: I wasn't expecting there to be; I'm looking for evidence of issues that might have led to this. Log files can't be written to until after the initrd has been loaded, and its files executed, and the real root file-system mounted
[12:58] <hounddog> TJ-: ahh ok
[12:58] <Walex> Aquila http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113935/
[12:59] <TJ-> hounddog: "pastebinit /mtn/target/var/log/apt/history.log" ... shows recent package installation/upgrade history
[12:59] <TJ-> hounddog: typo! "pastebinit /mnt/target/var/log/apt/history.log"
[12:59] <Walex> jasabelle: thanks for letting us know what you are doing :-)
[13:00] <hounddog> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7113945/
[13:00] <jasabelle> haha walex :P im trying to follow the samba guides now
[13:00] <jasabelle> but yeah, i have no idea if my ubuntu server even sees my printer
[13:00] <jasabelle> how do i check that?
[13:00] <thoonai> jasabelle: lsudb?
[13:00] <jasabelle> (i need a command that's something like lspci)
[13:00] <jasabelle> it's a LPT printer
[13:00] <Walex> jasabelle: Samba will export the printer queue defined by CUPS, the print server
[13:00] <jasabelle> not a usb one
[13:00] <thoonai> jasabelle: ok sorry
[13:01] <TJ-> hounddog: Last upgrade were the linux kernel packages; I assume the PC has booted successfully since then?
[13:01] <Walex> jasabelle: so first you need to check whether the print server daemon is configured for it, and before that whether your parallel port is configured right.
[13:01] <hounddog> TJ-: been using it everyday
[13:01] <Walex> jasabelle: 'lpstat -a' will show you all the configured printers CUPS knows about.
[13:01] <TJ-> hounddog: And restarted? Not just suspend/resume?
[13:02] <hbr> I should be okay removing any *-dev-* packages that have no dependents, right?
[13:02] <Walex> jasabelle: there is a nice set of CUPS configuration pages on the Ubuntu Wiki
[13:02] <jasabelle> im reading them :)
[13:02] <hounddog> TJ-: restarted yes, i always reboot into windows in the evening for some gaming
[13:02] <jasabelle> nodestinations added to lpstat :(
[13:02] <TJ-> hounddog: OK... I've learnt it's important to be precise in these things else you can make assumptions that lead you astray :)
[13:03] <hounddog> TJ-: yes, i know... i am a developer but these things with linux i dont get them somehow lol
[13:04] <hounddog> TJ-: but i must say one thing i havent mentioned... i had this issue in the past randomly where i rebooted into a different kernel or rebooted a few times or so and then it was working again...
[13:04] <TJ-> hounddog: OK ... the older kernels you tried to boot with ... how far back did you go?
[13:04] <hounddog> i should have mentioned that
[13:04] <hounddog> i want back to the oldest kernel
[13:05] <hounddog> TJ-: i went back to the oldest kernel
[13:05] <TJ-> hounddog: Hmmm, I'm wondering about external peripherals you might have connected, USB, ExpressCard, etc., that could potentially cause kernel hangs. Any EFI firmware setup config changes?
[13:06] <hounddog> TJ-: no changes whatsoever... at least nothing i have done
[13:06] <hounddog> but hmm one thing
[13:06] <TJ-> hounddog: OK. Did you run a memtest? I'd strongly advise it because this kind of issue can be caused by bit-flip errors in modules
[13:06] <hounddog> i have my phone connected
[13:06] <TJ-> hounddog: Well it won't hurt to try booting without it :)
[13:06] <hounddog> TJ-: let me try
[13:07]  * y6 
[13:07] <anonymous_> bom dia
[13:07] <jasabelle> wow cupsd.conf is like an apache conf file heh
[13:08] <Nek> Hello guys
[13:09] <jarkko> i have a question about kubuntu...today i received 21 updates along them 3.13.0-18 kernel (i have newer kernel in use) this kernel is not in my grub...why it wants to install that? after upgrade it wants to remove 3.13-0-17 (which is not in use
[13:09] <Nek> Am I the only one to have big problems with chrome on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[13:09] <Nek> (problems that are not present in chromium)
[13:09] <thoonai> TJ-: it could if it supports DMA, or?
[13:09] <shinj-san> what kind of problems Nek?
[13:10] <Capprentice> Hi ! I want to Configure "Canon LPB 2900B" on ubuntu 12. I have followed the official Ubuntu documentation so far, but my printer does not works. How should I diagnose what gone wrong ?
[13:11] <makara> hi there. I'm having trouble connecting to my Kindle HDX
[13:11] <wheatthin> are kindles and hdk supported here? I think not
[13:11] <makara> I have 2 computers, both running the latest Ubuntu. The one can connect and the other can't
[13:11] <wheatthin> hdx*
[13:11] <Capprentice> -__________- !
[13:12] <makara> Kindle Fire HDX
[13:12] <Nek> shinj-san, sometimes it doesn't run in gui (but create all the process it usually create), but worst, it slows the computer I use to works (that have a SSD !), and when I say "slows", that mean I need to reboot. Using chromium fixes everything, but why chrome for ubuntu exists if it's not compatible ? I have this problems on both of my computers.
[13:12] <Hounddog> TJ-: Turns out i should not leave my phone connected...
[13:12] <TJ-> Hounddog: :) I take it that solved it?
[13:12] <Hounddog> TJ-: yes... but seriously... wtf?
[13:12] <shinj-san> That is strange Nek.
[13:13] <wheatthin> shh easy on the annotation :P or whatever it is
[13:13] <TJ-> Hounddog: You haven't accidentally installed kernels to the phone's SD-card have you? :)
[13:13] <Nek> shinj-san, that's why i'm here ^^
[13:13] <shinj-san> lol
[13:13] <reuf> hello i've set up crontab as root to send mail with attahcment usinfg php script based on phpmailer - the email gets send but attachment fails to get attached. i found this stackoverflow - but doesnt seem to help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21745612/phpmailer-with-attachment-is-not-working-in-cron-job
[13:13] <Hounddog> TJ-: nope...
[13:13] <TJ-> Hounddog: Or installed Ubuntu to the phone, as you can with Android
[13:13] <shinj-san> But chromium works...... What version of Chrome are you running, i assume the newest?
[13:13] <TJ-> Hounddog: Well, at least it was an easy solution!
[13:13] <Nek> shinj-san, yep, the latest
[13:14] <Hounddog> TJ-: also thats a no :) my phone just got repaired and is mostly in factory settings
[13:14] <makara> i've installed gMTP, but it says no raw devices found
[13:14] <Hounddog> TJ-: easy solution but...
[13:14] <GivenToCode> ive just made some changes to an upstart script but they dont seem to be taking effect, do i need to reboot?
[13:14] <Jarle_> trying to create multiple users that all have access to the same files and directories as an existing user. how do I do this?
[13:15] <Hounddog> TJ-: and thx for all the help you gave :) at least if i have a real problem i might be able to identify some things myself :)
[13:15] <TJ-> Hounddog: weird one then, it sounds as if the kernel is failing to start when the phone is connected... we don't know if the failure occurs in the GRUB bootloader, its EFI handoff, or the kernel itself though... that can be your assignment for the weekend :)
[13:15] <Hounddog> TJ-: hehe
[13:15] <thoonai> Jarle_: two ways: put them all into one group. let the group own the files, or ACLs
[13:15] <shinj-san> Nek, I assume you've tried uninstalling chrome and reinstalling fresh?
[13:15] <Nek> Of course
[13:16] <shinj-san> How much ram do you have?  and how many extensions?
[13:16] <Nek> shinj-san, 8Go on both computers
[13:16] <thoonai> yey: I'm soory, no clue what to do there, sorry
[13:16] <Jarle_> thoonai: I just added a new user to the existing usergroup. Still getting permission denied though for files owned by the group? what is ACL?
[13:16] <shinj-san> Nek, have you ever checked to see how much memory chrome is using compared to chromium?
[13:16] <Nek> shinj-san, and... 5 extensions, maybe 6.
[13:17] <shinj-san> that isn't many....
[13:17] <Nek> But the ram doesn't look affected
[13:17] <thoonai> !acl
[13:17] <thoonai> !ACL
[13:17] <Pici> Access Control List
[13:17] <Jarle_> is ACL preferable over group permissions?
[13:17] <Nek> in facts, cpu doesn't look affected neither
[13:18] <thoonai> Jarle_: yes, its easier
[13:18] <shinj-san> Nek, did the problem start after an update or anythign?
[13:18] <thoonai> Pici: why does ubottu has no entry for 'acl/ACL'?
[13:18] <Nek> shinj-san, but my load average slowly growth to more than 3..
[13:19] <shinj-san> I'm sure you've looked into all this already.  I am just kind of at a loss
[13:19] <shinj-san> hmmmmmmm
[13:19] <Pici> thoonai: because no one made one.  Feel free to submit a suggestion (also, factoids are case-insensitive)
[13:19] <Nek> shinj-san, nop, on both computer it's on the first usage
[13:19] <thoonai> Pici: ok, I'll think of it by time
[13:19] <thoonai> gtg, bye
[13:19] <yey> !ls
[13:19] <Nek> Today I killed chrome at startup and my load average is safe
[13:20] <Nek> (not so safe indeed, lol, 0.90, but not critical!)
[13:20] <shinj-san> I'm not sure nek.  Sounds like Google needs to look at it (I know that isn't what you wanted to hear)  I'm not as skilled as these other ladies and gentlemen
[13:21] <root_> set
[13:22] <Nek> shinj-san, np np, chromium works great ^^ just wanted to see if anybody hear about theses issues and if a solution exists
[13:22] <Tasab> hello , any1 aware about the grub loader  pls
[13:23] <makara> is there a better channel for my question?
[13:24] <Rory> !anyone | Tasab
[13:25] <PreK> I have a problem, I have 2 disk, and when installing with 12.04 lts minimalCD they install grub on /dev/sda how can change to /dev/sdb ?
[13:26] <PreK> ok nvm
[13:26] <PreK> just change the bloot flag right ?
[13:26] <PreK> *boot
[13:26] <ikonia> I think it only appears in advanced settings though
[13:26] <ikonia> there should be an option in the installer to pick where grub goes
[13:27] <Tasab> grub loader not working  properly  - grub rescue >
[13:28] <jasabelle> ummm
[13:28] <jasabelle> how do i know which model my printer is for CUPS?
[13:28] <jasabelle> i have4 choices?
[13:31] <Capprentice> jasabelle, That would be written on your printer !
[13:32] <jasabelle> i know what it is but
[13:33] <jasabelle>  i have HP LaserJet 4L - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.8-pre1 (en), HP LaserJet 4L - Foomatic/lj4dith (en), HP LaserJet 4L Foomatic/ljet4 (recommended) (en),HP LaserJet 4l hpjis, 3.12.2 (en)
[13:33] <TJ-> jasabelle: "recommended"
[13:33] <jasabelle> okie
[13:33] <jasabelle> thought i was installing CUPS
[13:34] <TJ-> jasabelle: You can change that later from the CUPS configuration if needed
[13:34] <blindowl> hello. i'm newbie. please help. i installed another distro on my hardware.i choosed its root drive to format but selected the old home drive without formatting it.now i cannot see my old files and pictures in the new installition but when i prompt the disk size i see they are already there. what should i do?
[13:34] <jasabelle> i see
[13:35] <jasabelle> great, CUPS is saying Not Shared :(
[13:35] <TJ-> jasabelle: The drivers you're choosing from are just different ways for CUPS to talk to the printer; the "CUPS" driver is more generic and probably missing features about the specific model, whereas the recommended driver probably knows the most about the printer model and what it can do
[13:36] <jasabelle> ahhhh okie
[13:38] <jasabelle> CUPS needs to be set to share the printers so SAMBA can share them right?
[13:39] <Aqui1a> What IRC client does everybody use? :)
[13:39] <jasabelle> chatzilla
[13:39] <Rory> !best | Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:40] <Aqui1a> lol Rory
[13:40] <Aqui1a> I'm just curious
[13:40] <blindowl> no answer for my problem?
[13:40] <TJ-> jasabelle: No,  CUPS sharing is direct TCP port sharing
[13:40] <jasabelle> ahhh
[13:41] <Rory> !ot > Aqui1a
[13:41] <philinux> Aqui1a;~ xchat
[13:41] <Aqui1a> Rory: Don't know how to check PMs :D
[13:44] <hbr> *-dev-* packages (with no dependents) should be okay to remove once I'm done compiling stuff, right?
[13:44] <Havenstance> Can someone answer a question about encryption?
[13:44] <Rory> Havenstance: Only if you ask one ;)
[13:44] <Rory> hbr: Yes
[13:44] <Aqui1a> !ot > Aqui1a
[13:45] <hbr> Rory: Okay, thanks. Wanted to be sure.
[13:45] <Rory> Aqui1a: Ironically, the way to see your private messages depends on the IRC client you're using
[13:45] <PreK> what is a private message? xD
[13:45] <Aqui1a> Rory: lol Yeah, using Irssi for some reason
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> irssi is grear
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> *great
[13:46] <Rory> If this was #ubuntu-offtopic I'd say weechat is greatER but it isn't so I won't ;)
[13:46] <Aqui1a> ActionPa1snip: Probably, but it's not suitable for beginners
[13:46] <Havenstance> :), I plan on setting up server 13.10 as LVM with a Software Raid Array, I have encrypted the system through the installer, I want to encrypt the raid array when I get it here and get it setup. Is that something I have to do in the Installer or can I do it later? and once its done can i configure this encryption to unlock all drives and automount on boot from a key storned on USB?
[13:46] <ActionPa1snip> Aqui1a: possibly
[13:46] <philinux> Aqui1a;~ give xchat a whirl - it's free too
[13:46] <Aqui1a> Rory: lol
[13:46] <Rory> Aqui1a: If you want a simple IRC client that has a graphical interface and enough features to be useful, use Xchat
[13:46] <PreK> What about Kvirc?
[13:47] <Aqui1a> Rory: Alright, thanks!
[13:47] <Rory> !best
[13:47] <PreK> !money
[13:48] <PreK> !how-start-be-rich
[13:48] <PreK> useless bot ... :S
[13:48] <ikonia> please stop messing around
[13:49] <Havenstance> Rory,  I plan on setting up server 13.10 as LVM with a Software Raid Array, I have encrypted the system through the installer, I want to encrypt the raid array when I get it here and get it setup. Is that something I have to do in the Installer or can I do it later? and once its done can i configure this encryption to unlock all drives and automount on boot from a key storned on USB?
[13:49] <PreK> ikonia: just installing ubuntu :P
[13:49] <Rory> !ubottu > PreK
[13:49] <ikonia> PreK: so then stop messing with the bot
[13:49] <Rory> Havenstance: I don't know, sorry, hopefully someone else in here knows about that
[13:50] <Aqui1a> Rory: Yeah this is much better!
[13:50] <Havenstance> I have found a few guides on the internet however none seem to answer my question directly :)
[13:51] <Rory> Havenstance: If you selected encryption during installation, the entire system is already encrypted with LUKS+LVM - there would be no benefit to performing any additional encryption
[13:51] <Rory> Havenstance: I don't know about the usb thing
[13:51] <Havenstance> Rory, the raid array isn't here yet but will that automatically encrypt when I install it?
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> Havenstance: you can select encryption at install time. Is the server going to be mobile?
[13:52] <Havenstance> Rory,  i understand the USB thing I've found a guid that I can use for that. I intend on writing one of my own to post for someone else to follow
[13:52] <Rory> Havenstance: The encryption is done at the LVM level, whether it's RAID array or not isn't relevant
[13:53] <Havenstance> ActionPa1snip, its going to be stationary, however its in a large hardware store so the boss is worried about the event that someone might steal the server he don't want them getting the pertinant company files
[13:53] <Havenstance> hence the software Raid
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> Havenstance: then put it in a secure cabinet....
[13:53] <Havenstance> ActionPa1snip, that was my thought lol
[13:54] <Havenstance> im just trying to give the man what he wants.
[13:54] <Rory> Havenstance: Set up the array, then install Ubuntu onto it, selecting the full-disk encryption option at install-time
[13:55] <Rory> Havenstance: Setting up the array, and setting up the OS with encryption, are separate tasks
[13:55] <Havenstance> Rory,  right i understand that, I just wanted to know if I could configure the array with encryption after I install the system. Because the array and the OS are on two separate drives
[13:56] <Havenstance> the array will just be for storage purposes. 2 2tb mirrored drives
[13:56] <Rory> Havenstance: Yes but you'll have to make an encrypted filesystem or whatever on it manually, if you add it after installation
[13:56] <Rory> Havenstance: Selecting the encryption option during installation simply creates an LVM setup instead of disk partitions, and then encrypts the whole thing with LUKS
[13:57] <Havenstance> okay, so in theory i could leave the main system unencrypted then and just setup the array as encrpted?
[13:57] <Rory> Yes, but anything not stored where the RAID array is mounted, will not be encrypted
[13:57] <Rory> Which doesn't need saying, I assume
[13:57] <Havenstance> Rory,  you just answered a huge question i was getting to if it was luks or what type lol, right it doesn't
[13:58] <Havenstance> the os files will be on the system root drive, the company files are going on the mirrored array
[13:58] <Rory> Pretend instead of a mirrored array it was just a single USB hard drive
[13:58] <Havenstance> the files on the array are the files needing protected
[13:58] <Rory> You can encrypt the hard drive (or in this case huge array) - but you'll have to do it yourself using something like Truecrypt or LUKS
[13:59] <Havenstance> fair enough
[13:59] <Rory> Havenstance: Does your RAID controller have any encryption options? Perhaps if it's enterprise-grade it will
[13:59] <Havenstance> I just wanted to know if it could be done after the fact. and I doubt it as its going to be software based most likely using a script to mirror its self
[14:00] <TJ-> Havenstance: That's a pretty routine configuration; RAID + (MD) + (LVM) + LUKS: "sudo cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/mapper/XXXX" ... and onwards, plus entry in "/etc/crypttab" + "/etc/fstab" (of the /dev/mapper/decrypted)
[14:01] <Rory> Havenstance: It can be done, there's a few guides around to setting up an encrypted drive on Ubuntu
[14:02] <Havenstance> TJ-, exactly what I needed to know, Rory sorry im not the best at putting this into words lol
[14:02] <Havenstance> in my head and the picture i have drawn up it makes perfect sense to me lol
[14:03] <TJ-> Havenstance: I have an (old) wiki article explaining  how to do several permutations... you might need to revise a couple of steps to take account of newer encryption algorithms, but it has remained essentially the same
[14:04] <Havenstance> TJ-, can you PM the link?
[14:04] <TJ-> Havenstance: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyRAID5EncryptedLVM
[14:04] <Havenstance> thank you
[14:04] <TJ-> Havenstance: It's 5 years old so use it as a guide, not as instructions :)
[14:05] <Havenstance> TJ-, I just need something to give an idea of what to do. not so much physical instructions
[14:05] <Havenstance> one thing i've learned with linux is what works for me probably won't for you
[14:05] <bumbar> so, i've just upgraded to 13.10 and found out that gedit session saver plugin has been dropped
[14:06] <mzaza> I am installing android studio, where should I move the extracted file? To which directory?
[14:06] <bumbar> apperently it's been broken, yet it  worked flawlessly - any good reasoning?
[14:07] <potjak> bumbar: write a letter of protest.
[14:09] <Shunderpooch> #WWPI
[14:10] <ilhami> how to execute a .bin file?
[14:10] <ilhami> I did chmod -x on it
[14:11] <Pici> ilhami: that would remove the executable bit.  You likely want to chmod +x whatever.bin
[14:11] <ilhami> Yeah I did that
[14:11] <ilhami> oh
[14:11] <ilhami> it is +
[14:12] <draco_> Hi, I just ran out of solutions and I am hoping somebody can give me clues on mounting windows shares, I can mount a specific share for a single user but we have multiple users on each computer.  My goal is to have all windows computers running Ubuntu instead of M$ and until I can figure this out it will not be possible, any help is greatly appreciated!
[14:12] <ilhami> what do I do after Pici ?
[14:12] <Pici> ilhami: do ./whatever.bin
[14:12] <ilhami> ok let me try
[14:13] <ilhami> it says no such file or dir
[14:13] <Rory> ilhami: Did you just type "./whatever.bin" or did you type the actual location of the .bin file?
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> draco_: if you set the group owner to 'users' or some group which the users are in, you can give that group access.
[14:13] <Havenstance> ilhami, make sure you cd to the dir the file is in then execute ./whatever.bin
[14:14] <ilhami> I am in the folder where the .bin file is now
[14:14] <ilhami> yeah I did
[14:14] <Havenstance> try ./path/to/whatever.bin
[14:14] <Rory> ilhami: What is the output of the command: "file filename.bin" (replace "filename.bin") with the actual path
[14:14] <kjs> I am attempting to install libgtest-dev on an amd64 box, now this installs only the source then I build the libs using apt-get install libgtest-dev then cd /usr/src/gtest && cmake CMakeLists.txt && make ** cp *.a /usr/lib this works fine for amd64 but is there a way to build for i386 on amd64 ?
[14:15] <TJ-> ilhami: is the file-system mounted without exec permissions?
[14:15] <Pici> ilhami: remember that filenames are case-sensitive too]
[14:15] <ilhami> dude I used the tab
[14:15] <ilhami> it has nothing to do with I typed it wrong
[14:15] <Pici> dude, we aren't psychic
[14:16] <Rory> ilhami: What does it say for "file filename.bin"
[14:16] <Havenstance> put sudo in front of the ./ command it may require root to run
[14:16] <Rory> I'm calling that it's a 32-bit executable on a 64-bit system or vice versa
[14:16] <ilhami> It's in a virtual machine. :D I cannot copy it but it says ELF 32-bit executable
[14:16] <ilhami> and something more
[14:17] <ilhami> dynamically linked
[14:17] <Rory> ilhami: What's the output of "uname -p"
[14:17] <TJ-> ilhami: And the VM is a 32-bit install ?
[14:17] <ilhami> aaaaah that may be why
[14:17] <ilhami> Its a 64 bit VM
[14:17] <Rory> I win
[14:17] <ilhami> and the file may be 32 bit
[14:17] <Pici> !cookie | Rory
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: how much RAM is in the VM?
[14:18] <jasabelle> argh
[14:18] <ilhami> 1024 ActionPa1snip
[14:18] <mzaza> I am installing android studio, where should I move the extracted file? To which directory?
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: and what is the system used for?
[14:18] <ilhami> Its Ubuntu Server
[14:18] <TJ-> 64-bit install should execute (or being to, even with missing libraries) a 32-bit executable
[14:19] <TJ-> s/being/begin/
[14:19] <ilhami> well it doesn't. :)
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: ok, what sort of server?
[14:19] <draco_> ActionPalsnip, thanks for the reply, my main problem is trying to figure out this: We have several File servers, hundreds of users, depending on the group they are they get different shares from different servers, I can do a single user per station, not a problem but then if another user logs in, the shares that the previous user had open will be available for the other users.
[14:19] <ilhami> It's a server which contains another server basically
[14:19] <ilhami> I want to install Oracle Web Logic
[14:19] <ilhami> server
[14:19] <ilhami> on it
[14:19] <ilhami> and is going to host a database as well
[14:19] <TJ-> ilhami: which version of Ubuntu is in the VM?
[14:19] <ilhami> 12.04
[14:19] <ilhami> LTS
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: ahh 64bit makes sense then :)
[14:20] <TJ-> ilhami: "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[14:20] <ilhami> TJ- what does that do?
[14:21] <TJ-> ilhami: installs the 32-bit support libraries, including binutils:i386, which will then recognise that 32-bit executable
[14:22] <ilhami> Thanks
[14:22] <ilhami> will try it
[14:22] <ilhami> gotta go home bye
[14:22] <OerHeks> mzaza, see the manual, domewhere to your /home/  folder >>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html
[14:34] <vegantomato> test
[14:35] <gischy> why cant i nmap my local lan ip and get results? i just get as result host is up
[14:37] <OerHeks> gischy, sounds like host is up, and ports are closed
[14:37] <gischy> if i scan nmap localhost i get open ports as result
[14:38] <gischy> if i scan namp 192.168.0.100 i just get host is up
[14:39] <OerHeks> when i scan my localhost, the only port i see open is 631 = cups
[14:39] <chillibite> i've installed ubuntu on to a laptop that had windows 8 pre installed (hp 255). when i boot up i have to choose ubuntu, then i get an error, finnaly get into the bios, f9 choose, then the ubuntu boot screen
[14:39] <chillibite> how can i remove the windows partition and just boot directly into ubuntu every time
[14:40] <chillibite> it used to be easy on my last laptop, this one has a different bios, almost like at first it isn't the bios
[14:40] <chillibite> never seen anything like this before
[14:40] <OerHeks> chillibite, sounds like a UEFI issue
[14:40] <OerHeks> !uefi
[14:41] <chillibite> OerHeks: thanks
[14:41] <Teltariat> Hello all.  What's the best way to run automated package building and a private repository in Ubuntu, basically a PPA ?
[14:41] <gischy> OerHeks: yeah and now try to scan your local lan ip
[14:42] <OerHeks> gischy, then all ports are closed, the message is more than 1 line
[14:46] <chillibite> is it possible to remove uefi completely
[14:48] <potjak> chillibite: what!!!!!!!!!
[14:49] <TJ-> chillibite: It sounds more-like you simply need to correct the EFI firmware menu entry for Ubuntu/GRUB... when Ubuntu installs on EFI it used 'efibootmgr' to add the menu-entry to the EFI's menu saved in non-volatile memory
[14:51] <chillibite> TJ-: i am lost it used to be so simple to boot into ubuntu
[14:51] <chillibite> now i have to get an error, get into the bios, then the ubuntu login
[14:52] <chillibite> maybe it doesn't matter, at least i can log on to my computer
[14:52] <dyu> what's the python version for the next LTS?
[14:52] <TJ-> chillibite: The sequence is UEFI -> "read menu entries" -> "select default" > [boot-disk]/{GPT-partition-type-0xEF00}/EFI/{grub-boot-loader}.efi > [grub-root-disk]/{grub-root}/efi/{core.img} > "grub.cfg" > linux+initrd > execute
[14:53] <chillibite> let me give that a shot then
[14:53] <Pici> dyu: looks like 2.7.5 and 3.4 (rc1 at the moment)
[14:54] <dyu> what's the proper way to install 2.7.6 on 12.04?
[14:57] <Guest85815> Is JackD tend to burn more CPU than PulseAudio ?
[14:59] <helmut_> hi
[15:01] <Walex> Guest21041:bizarre question
[15:07] <browndawg> Hey. How do I remove an entry from grub2, an autodetected OS?
[15:07] <browndawg> Renaming will be fine too.
[15:07] <browndawg> I'm on 12.04
[15:07] <browndawg> Not that it matters.
[15:08] <tcpsyn> browndawg: look at the files in /etc/grub
[15:08] <tcpsyn> that's what generates grub.cfg
[15:08] <browndawg> tcpsyn: Auto detected OS?
[15:08] <tcpsyn> yep
[15:08] <browndawg> tcpsyn: will have an entry there?
[15:08] <SuperBawlz> When I updated Ubuntu it screwed my Apache up in some way. Any solutions?
[15:08] <tcpsyn> It will have the autodetect logic
[15:08] <tcpsyn> that you can either disable, or modify
[15:09] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: define 'some way'
[15:09] <browndawg> I don't want to mess with that!
[15:09] <SuperBawlz> http://pastebin.com/pezmRBfH
[15:09] <tcpsyn> browndawg: well then your hosed.
[15:09] <browndawg> don't want to mess with OS prober
[15:09] <tcpsyn> because that's where it is.
[15:09] <shubhamjain> When I am doing hexdump or a binary file I am getting different output than it is shown in sublime text's hex. And I am sure the latter is correct.
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> I also keep getting this error
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> Error
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> Not Found: vhost: 10.0.1.11 /
[15:11] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: something else is already running on port 80
[15:11] <SuperBawlz> how would I find that?
[15:12] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-process-has-open-linux-port/
[15:12] <browndawg> anyone with some actual insight?
[15:12] <vanishing> SuperBawlz:
[15:12] <tcpsyn> browndawg: you're a retard.
[15:12] <SuperBawlz> what the crap is tntnet
[15:12] <tcpsyn> I just told you
[15:12] <vanishing> SuperBawlz:sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 80 | awk ' { print ( $(NF) ) }'
[15:13] <browndawg> tcpsyn: said the guy who responded to "delete a bootloader entry" with "modify os-prober"
[15:13] <tcpsyn> browndawg: said the guy that told you how grub2 works, and I didn't tell you to delete anything, I told you to disable.
[15:14] <tcpsyn> that's how it works, period.
[15:14] <chillibite> when i turn my computer on i get 1) windows boot manager (ubtuntu is the default OS (i used an installer on the ubuntu dvd in windows to get it there) ubuntu 2) windows boot manager failure (windows failed to boot (even though i was booting into ubuntu and that is the default in the windows boot manager 3) startup menu (bios) 4) f9 boot device options (i have to choose the second ubuntu partition) 5) gnu grub (choose ubuntu) 7) ubuntu
[15:14] <chillibite> login screen
[15:14] <SuperBawlz> fixes it.
[15:14] <SuperBawlz> what the crap is tntnet?
[15:14] <niel> where can I tell what nvidia drivers I need for a 765m
[15:14] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: http://www.tntnet.org/
[15:14] <chillibite> so i think it might be the ubuntu installer i used in windows to have ubuntu as an option in the windows boot manager?
[15:14] <tcpsyn> maybe look?
[15:14] <tcpsyn> jesus, whats up with you guys.
[15:14] <browndawg> tcpsyn: I know how it works.
[15:15] <browndawg> Anyone with some other way
[15:15] <browndawg> ?
[15:15] <tcpsyn> browndawg: clearly you don't.
[15:15] <browndawg> tcpsyn: haha, okay
[15:15] <tcpsyn> there is no other way because THATS THE WAY IT WORKS.
[15:15] <vanishing> browndawg: do you want it to be temporary?
[15:15] <SuperBawlz> I just removed the piece of shit.
[15:16] <SuperBawlz> I didn't ask for that, it must have come in on the update.
[15:16] <tcpsyn> probably a dependency of something else
[15:16] <OerHeks> Please, watch your language and keep this channel family-friendly, thanks.
[15:17] <tcpsyn> OerHeks: for benefit of all the families in #ubuntu?
[15:17] <IdleOne> tcpsyn: for the benefit of all in the channel.
[15:18] <tcpsyn> bubblegum, lolipops.
[15:18] <tcpsyn> unicorns.
[15:18] <SuperBawlz> I would like to see what he types when he loses several days to someone's slack crapware.
[15:18] <jeevanus> hi, in my system sudenly network connectivity stopped working
[15:19] <SuperBawlz> Thank you tons guys!!!
[15:19] <jeevanus> it is trying to connect, but not going through
[15:19] <jeevanus> i am using wired connection
[15:19] <vanishing> you mean your wifi stopped working..
[15:19] <tcpsyn> do you have an ip address?
[15:19] <jeevanus> can some one please help?
[15:20] <jeevanus> tcpsyn: its not connecting, so how ip|
[15:20] <jeevanus> ip*?
[15:20] <tcpsyn> ifconfig -a
[15:20] <vanishing> ^paste in pastebin
[15:20] <jeevanus> vanishing: not wifi, wired connection
[15:20] <vanishing> you said you are using wired connection...
[15:21] <jeevanus> im using friend system now as my system isn't connected to the network and hence the internet
[15:21] <vanishing> how can it be broken if you are still using it....
[15:21] <vanishing> oh..
[15:21] <niel> https://www.dropbox.com/s/677wxg7hym2u319/Screenshot%20from%202014-03-18%2008%3A17%3A50.png nvidia 765m does something look wrong?
[15:21] <TJ-> browndawg: Add "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to "/etc/default/grub" and it won't run the os-prober to detect alternative OSs. If you want some detected but not others you'll have to manually edit "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:22] <vanishing> this browndawg..
[15:22] <tcpsyn> if you manually edit grub.cfg it'll regenerate next time update-grub runs. Don't do that.
[15:22] <TJ-> Someone is flooding his client
[15:23] <jeevanus> vanishing: please help me to connect to my network
[15:23] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: did you post the output of ifconfig -a like we asked?
[15:23] <vanishing> jeevanus: for that...you will have to be on your box....
[15:24] <p1l0t> How can something be using a port with no PID? tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -
[15:24] <chillibite> TJ-: what you said earlier, where do i find that ( UEFI -> read menu entries )
[15:24] <chillibite> etc
[15:24] <vanishing> there are several places to look..ifconfig, /etc/resolve.conf etc etc
[15:24] <TJ-> tcpsyn: Obviously, but if the system doesn't have new kernels added too regularly it's not a big issue to run an awk script against the generated grub.cfg to remove individual stanzas
[15:24] <TJ-> chillibite: I was explaining the boot process to you; that's how it works, so you can understand better why you're seeing the error
[15:25] <jeevanus> its in another system, i ll try to bring it here and paste it, ifconfig is showing as usual one
[15:25] <vanishing> brb..leaving for lunch
[15:25] <tcpsyn> chillibite: fuser 80/tcp
[15:25] <chillibite> TJ-: where can i fix the problem, because i think it with the windows installer i used from the ubuntu disk
[15:25] <vanishing> jeevanus: ask tcpsyn in the mean time :)
[15:25] <p1l0t> I cannot start apache2 because port 80 is already in use but there is no PID listed for ever is using this port...
[15:25] <chillibite> the windows installer puts ubuntu in the windows boot manager
[15:25] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: fuser 80/tcp
[15:25] <TJ-> chillibite: Windows installer? do you mean you used WUBI?
[15:26] <chillibite> TJ-: i think so
[15:26] <TJ-> chillibite: OK, I've not used wubi myself so can't help you there
[15:26] <chillibite> ubuntu has it's own partition, but there was something for the meny
[15:26] <chillibite> menu
[15:26] <sudormrf> hey guys.  can someone help me change my login and lock screen wallpapers using gnome fallback?
[15:26] <chillibite> TJ-: thanks for the effort
[15:26] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: nothing happens
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:27] <sweb> is there any cli tools for get metadata of fonts like ttf and otf ?
[15:27] <Pici> anonymous_: thats enough, hi.
[15:27] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: can you telnet to localhost 80?
[15:28] <jeevanus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7114614/
[15:28] <tcpsyn> maybe it's just open in TIME_WAIT because the process recently died.
[15:28] <sydney> anonymous: hello
[15:28] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: could not resolve
[15:28] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: you don't have an ip address
[15:28] <anonymous_> hi
[15:28] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: then telnet 127.0.0.1 80
[15:28] <chillibite> wubuntu isn't ubuntu inside of windows, like a virtual machine is it?
[15:29] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: try dhclient eth0
[15:29] <jeevanus> ok
[15:29] <somsip> !info otfinfo
[15:29] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: oh was using 127.0.0.1:80 instead of 127.0.0.1 80 it's just blank so far
[15:29] <tcpsyn> but it does connect, so something is on that port
[15:29] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: actually yes it is connected
[15:30] <somsip> !find otfinfo | sweb
[15:30] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: Connected to 127.0.0.1.
[15:30] <p1l0t> Escape character is '^]'.
[15:30] <jeevanus> tcpsyn: i think its a problem with my wire(cable), other cable is working, thank u
[15:30] <OerHeks> !find otfinfo
[15:30] <TJ-> p1l0t: "GET / HTTP/1.0" Enter Enter
[15:30] <somsip> sweb: could be helpful? manpage suggests it does something like what you're asking for http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/otfinfo.1.html
[15:31] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: are you executing netstat as root?
[15:31] <tcpsyn> if you're not root, no pid
[15:31] <Havenstance> what is the command to display the ip of the local machine again?
[15:31] <tcpsyn> Havenstance: ip add
[15:31] <Pici> Havenstance: ip addr
[15:31] <Havenstance> ty
[15:32] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: oh yes this why haha use the sudo I must
[15:32] <sudormrf> using gnome shell 3.4.2
[15:33] <chillibite> what is wubi so that's why i have to go through the bios
[15:33] <chillibite> instead of the windows boot manager, it turns out
[15:33] <sydney> Why does ubuntu sometimes say "the drive for tmp is not ready yet"?
[15:33] <chillibite> now it would be nice if there was info about that on the ubuntu dvd
[15:33] <k1l> chillibite: dont use wubi. make a real install. or use a live-cd/usb if you want to try
[15:34] <sweb> somsip: FATAL: otfinfo.c:158: Assertion `reader' failed
[15:34] <somsip> chillibite: This has lots of info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[15:34] <d4rkt1m3s> yeah, wubi is pretty much useless anyways.
[15:34] <somsip> sweb: I've got no idea about it other than just finding it on a search to try to help you. Sorry
[15:34] <sweb> somsip: another packager ?
[15:35] <sydney> Wubi is awful,I was not able to get it to work at all!!
[15:35] <sweb> package*
[15:35] <somsip> sweb: the bot suggests "otfinfo found in lcdf-typetools, otf-trace" but I'd imagine they would be the same
[15:36] <bananapie> join #ubuntu-server
[15:37] <chillibite> i am going to have to back everything up and start over :(
[15:38] <sydney> Why does ubuntu sometimes say"drive for temp is not yet ready: when starting up?
[15:39] <tcpsyn> because the drive that has /tmp on it isn't ready yet...
[15:39] <sydney> what is it doing though; is it empptying it?
[15:39] <tcpsyn> depends on how you have it configured, it's trying to mount it.
[15:40] <sydney> Oh
[15:40] <tcpsyn> look at etc/fstab
[15:40] <tcpsyn> and see how you've got /tmp configured
[15:40] <d4rkt1m3s> why would you have more than one partition for your system? (other than having a separate /home partition, which is fine IMO)
[15:40] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: to keep system files and data files seperate is one reason.
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> a pointless endeavour.
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: to prevent files on one partition from taking up the full disk..
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: not at all
[15:41] <j0lz> hi - i want to run a ruby script on my server where should i place the script ... this is what the start of the script looks like #!/usr/bin/env ruby
[15:41] <TJ-> d4rkt1m3s: To provide flexibility
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: a wise endevour.
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> how is it wise?
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> to me, it just seems inconvenient.
[15:42] <p1l0t> So when I start apache2 manually with the SSL password its fine but the boot on startup isn't working right. I imagine that I need to have this password in a credentials file somewhere and call it on startup?
[15:42] <tcpsyn> what if you want to back up just your data partition, onto an image? or if you want to reinstall a different os without wiping your home directory.
[15:42] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: there are several reasons, you just may not need them.
[15:42] <tcpsyn> which is why you have the option
[15:42] <d4rkt1m3s> tcpsyn: I can see reinstalling a different os without wiping your home dir.
[15:42] <TJ-> d4rkt1m3s: encryption is often a reason
[15:42] <tcpsyn> encryption is a good reson.
[15:43] <d4rkt1m3s> fair enough.
[15:43] <tcpsyn> lots of reasons.
[15:44] <niel> for a 765m what nvidia drivers do I need?
[15:45] <JoeQuery> Hello there! I'm currently logged in to an ubuntu server vm, and whenever I click my mouse, characters such as [[M#mA are sent to my prompt. The specific values seem to change based on where my mouse is on the screen. It's preventing me from selecting text in my terminal for copying/pasting.
[15:45] <tcpsyn> the ones nvidia recommends for a 765m.
[15:45] <JoeQuery> Is there a way I can prevent this behavior? This seems to be recent.
[15:45] <niel> well I need it from the repo
[15:45] <niel> so
[15:45] <niel> for bumblebee
[15:45] <tcpsyn> I'd ask the bumblebee guys about that.
[15:46] <niel> trying the 331
[15:46] <niel> no answer
[15:46] <tcpsyn> that's a different animal.
[15:46] <shlant> anyone familiar with snmp? Is there a default for load monitoring?
[15:46] <grousey>  
[15:46] <grousey> JoeQuery: what are you using to connect?
[15:46] <JoeQuery> grousey: iterm2 is my terminal program, connecting to a virtualbox vm via vagrant
[15:47] <tcpsyn> shlant: don't think theres anything default about snmp. I've always had to snmpwalk devices and piece it together.
[15:47] <JoeQuery> grousey: Clicking my mouse in a standard OS X terminal does not send these characters to the prompt.
[15:47] <j0lz> hi - how do I run a ruby script at startup
[15:48] <tcpsyn> j0lz: call it in /etc/rc.local
[15:49] <j0lz> tcpsyn, do I just paste the entire script in there or put the script elsewhere and point to it?
[15:49] <JoeQuery> Huh, strange. I just restarted iterm and that worked. Alrighty then.
[15:50] <tcpsyn> j0lz: put it elsewhere and call it from there.
[15:50] <j0lz> tcpsyn, ok does it need any special permissions?
[15:50] <tcpsyn> j0lz: needs to be executable
[15:51] <tcpsyn> unless you're calling it with python... like /usr/bin/python /path/to/myscript.pl
[15:51] <j0lz> tcpsyn, chmod +x ... is that okay with appamor?
[15:51] <tcpsyn> yeah, that's fine
[16:09] <giraffe1> hi
[16:13] <SuperLag> What is Ubuntu One good for? is it primarily for syncing media between machines? or does it keep package/config info in sync, as well?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, cloud storage of selected files.
[16:14] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, I suppose one could store package and config info as well but --- why?
[16:15] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I have two machines that I want to keep as identical as possible. I don't care about media, as I stream everything.
[16:17] <usr13> SuperLag: Not sure that cloud storage would be of any use in keeping installed packages the same on two systems.
[16:17] <SuperLag> usr13: that's exactly why I asked the question. I wasn't sure.
[16:18] <usr13> SuperLag: So I would say that you are correct if you suspect that it would be of no use for this particular issue
[16:23] <PreK> can I change locale of ubuntu anytime ?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: sure
[16:24] <PreK> TY
[16:24] <PreK> just edit locale file right?
[16:24] <xxx600> مرحبا
[16:32] <usr13> PreK: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/
[16:38] <pirulo> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:38] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:44] <ilhami> how to start ssh server?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[16:47] <ilhami> dude I could in school
[16:47] <ilhami> I can't at home? :S
[16:47] <Rory> ilhami: Once you've installed the openssh-server package, it will start automatically at boot, or you can start it manually with the command "sudo service ssh start"
[16:47] <ilhami> yeah I did.
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  i missed that part in your question, "dude"
[16:47] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:47] <ilhami> but I still can't connect to it
[16:48] <ilhami> it's so weird.
[16:48] <Rory> ilhami: Can you connect to it locally (be on the machine running the ssh server, then run "ssh localhost" )
[16:48] <ilhami> I am trying to connect to my VM
[16:48] <ilhami> :D
[16:48] <ilhami> from Windows to Ubuntu Server
[16:49] <ilhami> with Putty
[16:49] <Blizzz> Could the change of a product ID make libmtp not work properly with the device? https://together.jolla.com/question/34046/mtp-does-not-work-with-10420-ohijarvi-and-kubuntu-1310/
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: I understand that, could you answer my question?
[16:49] <ilhami> let me try with Localhost
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: Make sure you are on the machine you are trying to connect to
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: I am trying to establish here whether it is a problem with the ssh server, or a problem with network connectivity
[16:50] <ilhami> It's probably network connectivity
[16:50] <ilhami> my server is started
[16:50] <marianne> Hi guys, not a good morning, I did the software updates this morning and totally hosed everything couldn't even get to terminal... ended up reinstalling
[16:51] <Rory> ilhami: Are you sitting at the computer you're trying to connect to? Your virtual machine?
[16:51] <ilhami> YES
[16:51] <ilhami> it's on this computer
[16:51] <ilhami> same computer
[16:51] <Rory> What have you done so far, in order to set up this ssh server?
[16:52] <ilhami> It is setup correctly. I did it in school
[16:52] <Rory> How did you connect to it in school?
[16:52] <marianne> So my error was "System tray not found quitting" couldn't get anythere on the screen, it was just dead... anyone have any idea how something like that happens and what the fix is (for future reference_
[16:52] <ilhami> some dude from my class could connect to it with the IP
[16:52] <Rory> ilhami: Was he in the same class?
[16:52] <Rory> ilhami: On the same network?
[16:52] <ilhami> can I try with another port?
[16:52] <ilhami> yes same network
[16:53] <Rory> ilhami: Okay, and where are you trying to connect from now?
[16:53] <ilhami> from my home
[16:53] <tcpsyn> ilhami: ps -ef | grep ssh
[16:53] <ilhami> dude I cannot copy from this VM. It sucks :D
[16:53] <ilhami> I cannot copy from that to Windows
[16:53] <ilhami> 8.1
[16:53] <aliwdj> HELLO, which version of Java should I install on a server
[16:53] <tcpsyn> it's 12 characters, type it
[16:53] <ilhami> ok let me try
[16:54] <aliwdj> what is the recommended version of java?
[16:54] <Rory> ilhami: I refuse to help you until you confirm whether you can "ssh localhost" on the target server, because I think you're being deliberately difficult (aka troll)
[16:54] <aliwdj> I have heard java has some exploits
[16:54] <aliwdj> etc
[16:54] <ilhami> Rory: I could!!!!
[16:54] <ilhami> I did try
[16:54] <aliwdj> so what should I install on a Ubuntu machine
[16:54] <ilhami> before when you asked
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> how do I add a mime type for all files ?
[16:54] <aliwdj> * default-jre * gcj-4.6-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless * gcj-4.5-jre-headless * openjdk-7-jre-headless
[16:54] <aliwdj> these are my options
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> no matter wich type of file nor extension...
[16:54] <ilhami> do you think I said it was a connectivity problem for fun?
[16:54] <aliwdj> which one should I install?
[16:54] <tcpsyn> if you can ssh localhost, but not from elsewhere, you've got a firewall blocking you.
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> I want to have an option to open with for all files
[16:55] <aliwdj> Hello?
[16:55] <ilhami> tcpsyn: you know what the funny part is?
[16:55] <tcpsyn> none of it is really that funny...
[16:55] <ilhami> I have before been able to do it. :)
[16:55] <aliwdj> is this ubuntu support channel?
[16:55] <ilhami> from another laptop
[16:55] <daftykins> aliwdj: depends what java application you want to run
[16:55] <daftykins> !patience | aliwdj
[16:55] <ilhami> also at home.
[16:55] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: yes, not a java support channel.
[16:56] <aliwdj> daftykins, what is the difference between those versions?
[16:56] <ilhami> It's probably the port which is blocked, tcpsyn ?
[16:56] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: the correct version is the version you need to support whatever application you need it for.
[16:56] <tcpsyn> ilhami: 22
[16:56] <ilhami> yes I think it is blocked
[16:56] <ilhami> It may be.
[16:56] <tcpsyn> there you are
[16:56] <aliwdj> tcpsyn, is there a difference security wise?
[16:56] <ilhami> can I change it to 2222?
[16:56] <Rory> ilhami: Okay. Can you run the command "ifconfig" and look for the server's IP address? It will say "inet addr:10.169.34.113" or similar
[16:56] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help ? I want to have the option lets say.. "open with myscript" for all type of files... is it possible ?
[16:56] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: it's all a security mess.
[16:56] <ilhami> Rory: 2 sec.
[16:56] <Rory> ilhami: Then, put that IP address into PuTTY to connect to the server
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  have you asked your school's assistance?
[16:57] <ilhami> MonkeyDust nope?
[16:57] <daftykins> HoNgOuRu: please stop repeating, you've been asking constantly and body's replied - obviously it means nobody knows
[16:57] <daftykins> *nobody's
[16:57] <tcpsyn> ilhami: generally, people change it to 443, which is generally allowed through firewalls.
[16:58] <tcpsyn> ilhami: if you're not running something on 443, I'd suggest using that.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  does your school allow what you are trying to do?
[16:58] <ilhami> is it 169.254.2.18?
[16:58] <ilhami> yes it does
[16:58] <ilhami> it doesnt work with that IP
[16:58] <tcpsyn> ....
[16:58] <ilhami> ifconfig gives me that
[16:58] <tcpsyn> heh.
[16:59] <tcpsyn> you got a network issue man.
[16:59] <ilhami> why?
[16:59] <tcpsyn> that's not a routable ip address
[16:59] <daftykins> 169 is an APIPA address
[16:59] <Rory> ilhami: If it's in a VM it probably isn't on the actual network your Windows PC is connected to
[16:59] <daftykins> it's issued when no DHCP server is contacted
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  that's why you should ask your schools assistance
[16:59] <ilhami> my internet is through my mothers workplace.
[16:59] <ilhami> my internet at home
[16:59] <ilhami> I am not at school now MonkeyDust
[17:00] <Rory> ilhami: Are you using Virtualbox?
[17:00] <ilhami> Rory: it's the same laptop
[17:00] <ilhami> No Hyper-V
[17:00] <ilhami> I mean the VM is on the same laptop as my Windows OS
[17:00] <ilhami> I also have a inet6 addr?? Can't I connect through that?
[17:01] <daftykins> ugh hyper-v
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: Go to some Microsoft support channel, and ask them how to configure networking such that the guest VM and host are on the same network - bridged adaptor rather than NAT
[17:01] <ilhami> can't I connect through my IPv6 addr?
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: We've established this isn't some Ubuntu configuration issue, which is at least good to know
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: Are you a wizard?
[17:01] <tcpsyn> I am a wizard
[17:01] <tcpsyn> I practice wizardry
[17:01] <Rory> tcpsyn probably can then
[17:01] <HoNgOuRu> daftykins, sorry
[17:01] <seednode> I thought I was a wizard
[17:02] <daftykins> #ubuntu-wizards
[17:02] <tcpsyn> seednode: you just wizzed.
[17:02] <Rory> But without magic, you will need to sort out your networking - make sure the two hosts can at least reach each other
[17:03] <tcpsyn> ilhami: if you're serious about learning linux... go all in. Run your windows VM on a linux host
[17:03] <tcpsyn> hyper-v isn't going to be valuable to you.
[17:04] <lancro> hi, Im trying to put a centos iso in a pen drive, from ubuntu, I was going to use dd, but I dont know wich sdx is the pendrive, how can I look it?
[17:04] <tcpsyn> lancro: I've always used something like unetbootin to do that
[17:04] <tcpsyn> lancro: but you can use fdisk -l to look at the devices
[17:05] <lancro> ok, Ill use unetbooting, thanks for the help tcpsyn
[17:05] <tcpsyn> just dd'ing the image annoys me more often than not
[17:05] <tcpsyn> well, try it first, I'll think you find dd doesn't set it bootable and all like you want.
[17:06] <tcpsyn> buntu comes with a usb creator too right?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> lancro  use lsblk and/or sudo blkid to knwo what's where
[17:06] <tcpsyn> yeah, ubuntu comes with usb-creator
[17:06] <lancro> unetbooting told it to me, Im copying files right know, lets see if it works
[17:06] <daftykins> !search snes
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> !find snes
[17:07] <tcpsyn> I need a new job
[17:07] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: hrmm wonder what the difference is XD
[17:07] <daftykins> (between find and search)
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> tcpsyn  Microsoft CEO chair is vacant
[17:08] <daftykins> nah they have new people.
[17:10] <aliwdj> HOW TO GET LATEST VERSION OF JAVA 1.7? DEFAULT-JRE DIDN'T WORK
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> aliwdj  caps
[17:11] <Blizzz> Could the change of a product ID make libmtp not work properly with the device? https://together.jolla.com/question/34046/mtp-does-not-work-with-10420-ohijarvi-and-kubuntu-1310/
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: https://together.jolla.com/question/8312/jolla-and-ubuntu-1210/
[17:15] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: not applicable. But there was just an answer that a patch was sent to libmtp
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: is there an SFTP client for the OS?
[17:17] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: yes, accessing it via sftp works perfectly
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: I'd use that then. Literally wireless :)
[17:19] <sm_> Hello, I have an problem with the isc-dhcp-server.
[17:19] <sm_> It says: "start: Job failed to start" when trying to start it.
[17:20] <aliwdj> PLEASE CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME
[17:20] <aliwdj> WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE I CAN'T UPGRADE TO JAVA 1.7
[17:20] <aliwdj> I AM STUCK WITH JAVA 1.6
[17:20] <aliwdj> WTF IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT UBUNTU
[17:21] <PreK> can I upgrade to use 14.04 and when released stay with 14.04 lts without format?
[17:21] <tmmunq> you mean going from beta or rc to stable?
[17:21] <ilhami> hey I got problems
[17:21] <marianne> hi again, what the command to check and see if you're runnung 2D or3D unity on 12.04
[17:22] <ilhami> my network config fails
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: ps -ef | egrep 'compiz|metacity'
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: if it shows compiz running, it's 3D, otherwise it's 2D
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: there is the WebUpd8 PPA which has Java 1.7
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: please kill caps and keep it family friendly
[17:23] <marianne> ActionPalsnip" thank you
[17:24] <aliwdj> ActionPa1snip> why does it have to be so hard to uninstall java 1.6 and install 1.7
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: its not
[17:24] <aliwdj> I TRIED REMOVE!!! It still says java -version
[17:24] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: sure, though sometimes the devices are not in the same network. But it is not critical because of this (only for other people that do not activite developer mode on the device)
[17:24] <aliwdj> 1.6
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: its 3 commands, not hard
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: port forward port 22/TCP to the server and you can access your data from anywhere on the planet
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: again, not hard in any way
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: or is 3 commands too hard?
[17:26] <PreK> tmmunq: yes
[17:27] <john96> a
[17:27] <SASDOE> hey all, what's the offtopic chan?
[17:28] <tmmunq> PreK: i dont know about that one, i know you can upgrade from 12.04 or 13.10 to 14.04
[17:28] <Slart> !offtopic | SASDOE
[17:28] <SASDOE> cool thx
[17:28] <Slart> SASDOE: you're welcome
[17:28] <PreK> yes I know u can upgrade, dunno if can be done from beta to stable
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: are you using trusty?
[17:30] <PreK> yes
[17:30] <PreK> but dont wanna jump to 14.10
[17:30] <trism> !final | PreK
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: then you are supported in #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: 14.10 isnt out til October this year
[17:31] <PreK> just thinked dev build allways dev
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> PreK  what brings you here?
[17:32] <PreK> MonkeyDust: just trying make a perfect HTPC
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: Trusty is only supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1 til release day, not here
[17:33] <PreK> ok sorry
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: np
[17:36] <andybrine> Wondering if anyone can help me out
[17:36] <ilhami> Hey
[17:36] <ilhami> wifi never gets connected
[17:36] <ilhami> keeps searching
[17:36] <andybrine> im trying to install lotus symphony
[17:36] <andybrine> Hey
[17:37] <andybrine> and Im having unmet dependancies
[17:37] <usr13> andybrine: And..........  (Keep it all in one post...)
[17:37] <andybrine> i cant seem to install them though
[17:37] <andybrine> usr13, there is a lot to include in 1 post
[17:37] <andybrine> lol
[17:38] <andybrine> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:38] <andybrine> symphony:i386: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21) but 1:4.8.1-10ubuntu9 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 1:2.17.90) but 1:2.24.4-1ubuntu6 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but 2:1.0.8-2 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libnotify1-gtk2.10 but it is a virtual package
[17:38] <usr13> andybrine: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade &&
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.14.10) but 1:2.14.19-0.2 is installed
[17:38] <usr13> !paste | andybrine
[17:38] <usr13> andybrine: Are you using any PPAs?
[17:39] <andybrine> I have a lot of PPAs yes
[17:39] <usr13> andybrine: Have you installed packages by other means than the package manager and the authorized repositories?
[17:39] <andybrine> But not sure what repos I need for these
[17:40] <andybrine> nothing other than symphony
[17:40] <usr13> andybrine: Then that is your problem.  Now you know where to look to solve your dependency issues.
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> !info symphony
[17:40] <andybrine> Ubuntu 13.10
[17:41] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: and the output of:  apt-cache policy symphony
[17:41] <andybrine> 3.0.1-20120110.2000-1lucid1
[17:41] <andybrine> I downloaded symphony from the ibm website
[17:42] <usr13> andybrine: You can pastebin it.  apt-cache policy symphony | pastebinit
[17:42] <usr13> andybrine: Oh, never mind.
[17:42] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: i suggest you contact ibm then and report the issue
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  and try Libre Office
[17:44] <andybrine> I use Libre Office but prefer to use Lotus Symphony
[17:44] <andybrine> I have had it working perfectly in previous versions
[17:44] <usr13> andybrine: Then use a previous version
[17:44] <andybrine> Lol.....
[17:45] <andybrine> A previous version of ubuntu...
[17:45] <usr13> (of symphony)
[17:45] <usr13> andybrine: Just back down a version or two and see.
[17:46] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/ibm-office-suite-lotus-symphony-3-released   possibly, there is a 64bit deb there, I assume your Ubuntu is 64bit
[17:46] <andybrine> Thanks ActionPa1snip, much appreciated
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> ActionPa1snip  +1
[17:46] <LoWeStEr> hi everybody
[17:49] <LoWeStEr> i was wondering if someone could possibly help me installing ubuntu in a win8 built-in HP
[17:49] <LoWeStEr> pavillion
[17:49] <ActionPa1snip> LoWeStEr: resize NTFS in Windows and install to the freed space
[17:49] <pcuser_> jaekid
[17:49] <tmmunq> restore discs or restore partition?
[17:50] <yacc> Any idea if it's possible to do source based routing with network-manager?
[17:50] <pcuser_> #drupal
[17:50] <LoWeStEr> ok, thank you
[17:50] <pcuser_> how to i change the channel to the drupal channel please?
[17:50] <pcuser_> im a noob at irc
[17:51] <ActionPa1snip> pcuser_: /join channelname
[17:51] <Pici> pcuser_: /join #drupal
[17:51] <pcuser_> thank you
[17:52] <rodd_> how may I change root password if the main user is not on sudoers
[17:52] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: we dont support that
[17:52] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: nor is it needed
[17:53] <rodd_> :P
[17:53] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: if you run:  sudo -s    you will get a root prompt, you can then leave the root account safely locked down
[17:54] <rodd_> the user forgot his password
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: then you will need to chroot from liveCD and you can reset passwords
[17:54] <k1l> rodd_: you need to boot into recovery or use a livecd and chroot.
[17:54] <rodd_> alright thanks
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: teach the fool to leave the root account alone and you will have significantly fewer issues
[17:54] <maujhsn> Can someone give me the official ubunt download site  for 14.04 image to create a liveUSB?
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> maujhsn: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:55] <ActionPa1snip> maujhsn: if you are askng that you probably shouldnt be using pre-release
[17:55] <k1l> rodd_: and on ubuntu you dont have a root pw set. use the user and sudo
[17:56] <maujhsn> ActionPa1snip is 14.04 unstable?
[17:56] <rodd_> how can I chroot from live cd?
[17:56] <k1l> !chroot | rodd_
[17:58] <ilhami> Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration
[17:58] <ilhami> !!!!!!!!!!!
[17:58] <ilhami> what is going on?
[17:58] <ilhami> why does my VM not connect?
[17:59] <sketchh> what is "/etc/hp" when referring to ubuntu directories?
[17:59] <ilhami> Booting system without full network configuration
[17:59] <sketchh> or linux directories in general
[17:59] <maujhsn> ActionPa1snip is 14.04 unstable?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  yes, it will be released in april
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  that is, when it will be stable
[18:00] <ilhami> can anyone answer me?
[18:02] <marianne> will 14.04 be available on CD? or doI have to download and create my own?
[18:02] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust Thanks...you just saved me from downloading an unstable release!
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> marianne  the people in #ubuntu+1 can tell you that
[18:03] <marianne> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help -- keep it in one line
[18:05] <ilhami> Wired network - device not managed
[18:05] <ilhami> cannot connect to the internet
[18:07] <andybrine_> Ok, realised the maid problem installing lotus symphony on Ubuntu 13.10 is that ia32-libs is o longer supported
[18:07] <andybrine_> not available in 13.10 at all anymore
[18:07] <ilhami> how do I remove that lib?
[18:08] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust while where on the topic of ubuntu I am dealing with a complex issue of wanting to close active processes on a liveUSB that I am using on a windows machine! Any thoughts on this topic:
[18:09] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust Here is food for thought: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9346211/how-to-kill-a-process-on-a-port-on-ubuntu
[18:09] <badass> how can I configure sendmail to send emails to an external inbox if the domain is associated with that box?
[18:09] <fa7ad> !ide
[18:10] <fa7ad> !ide
[18:10] <badass> in other words mydomain.com A record is set to that system's IPv4 address, and there is a host entry to a loopback address in /etc/hosts for mydomain.com
[18:10] <badass> but i want to sendmail to myusername@mydomain.com where the mailbox is on a different mail host
[18:11] <badass> is sendmail configurable like that?
[18:17] <ilhami> I think the problem is solved.
[18:18] <Wash_Jones> Hey all, I've run sudo apt-get update a few times and after it checks all the packages, I keep getting this: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[18:18] <Wash_Jones> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/Release
[18:18] <Wash_Jones> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:18] <Wash_Jones>  , is this happening for anyone else?
[18:20] <fa7ad> im trying to convert a vcproj to a makefile using winemaker. but everytime i get this
[18:20] <fa7ad> Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/winemaker line 879.
[18:21] <fa7ad> Wash_Jones: it happens to me all the time but i mostly ignore it
[18:21] <k1l> Wash_Jones: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:21] <Beldar> Wash_Jones, try this command sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:21] <k1l> Beldar: *5*
[18:22] <Beldar> k1l, Missed your paste, hehe
[18:22] <k1l> Beldar: 4sec faster, no need to worry :)
[18:22] <wise___> Hello, Can somebody please help me troubleshoot a linux install where I cannot disable uefi?
[18:23] <fa7ad> anybody with a solution to my problem?
[18:23] <k1l> wise___: we can not talk for every linux in here. but for ubuntu people will try to help if you state your exact issue
[18:24] <Wash_Jones> Okay, awesome, thanks guys
[18:26] <wise___> k1l, Okay.  I can disable secure boot, I cannot select anything but UEFI in the bios.  Grub2 loads up from a liveUSB I created (tried both ubuntu and mint) and I'm able to select Install Ubuntu, or Try Ubuntu, etc.  after grub, I'm greeted with a blank screen, and a chime.
[18:26] <drodriguezpadill> I'm hoping someone could help me with this, but I connected my laptop via HDMI to my TV and it is overscans the picture on the TV to where the top and left side are hidden. What can I do to fix this? There is no option on the TV for overscan.
[18:27] <wise___> k1l, i tried adding parameter 'nomodeset' from grub, but I just get an error message.
[18:27] <fa7ad> .
[18:27] <TJ-> wise___: Have you tried adding "nomodeset" to the kernel's command-line boot options from the GRUB boot menu? .... haha! ... what error message did you get, and when?
[18:28] <u1310s> hi
[18:28] <wise___> TJ-, it said it didn't reconize 'nomodeset'
[18:29] <TJ-> wise___: Secondly, did you try starting using the boot menu's Advanced ... recovery menu entry (that disables the splash screen, shows more kernel messages, and doesn't try to start the GUI?
[18:29] <wise___> TJ- how do I do that?
[18:29] <TJ-> wise___: Ahhhh... I think I know why that happened. When you added " nomodeset" did you ensure it was at the end of the line that begins "linux...", being careful to account for the fact that the GRUB menu editor text entry wraps the lines ?
[18:30] <wise___> TJ-, haha... nope i just typed it on its own line...
[18:30] <TJ-> wise___: At the GRUB boot menu, there should be an Advanced..." sub-menu beneath the default boot entry, selecting that brings up a sub-menu with alternative "recovery" boot options and the entries for any older kernel versions still installed after kernel upgrades.
[18:31] <wise___> I'm going to log into this channel from my phone and boot into grub.
[18:32] <TJ-> wise___: that's a common gotchya, and not helpful. I'd suggest trying again, first with the recovery option to ensure it does boot rather than freeze, which'll end up at a text based recovery menu with options like "root shell", "shell with networking".
[18:32] <TJ-> wise___: If that works, reboot and try adding "nomodeset" to the default entry, ensuring it's at the end of the "linux... " line, and for better reports, remove the "quiet splash" entries so you can see kernel messages too
[18:33] <c_smith_> whol
[18:34] <wise___> TJ- great I'll try that now.  wise_phone is also me.
[18:34] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: Does the TV have an option such as "Screen Fit" instead of "16:9" in the Picture Options of the OSD?
[18:36] <drodriguezpadill> TJ, it does not. The closest thing is Zoom Mode, but none of the modes work to fit the screen.
[18:37] <wise_phone> Ok... Removed quiet splash, added nomodeset, a quick line of text flashed but im still at the same blank screen, with a chime.
[18:37] <ilhami> I cant start x in xming
[18:37] <Fohlen> anyone knows where I could obtain more up-to-date calligra packages (callibrasheets, calligrawords) for ubuntu 13.04 without installing the calligra-suit as a complete?
[18:37] <TJ-> wise___: The line of text would be GRUB's "starting linux..." or "loading linux.../loading initial ramdisk..."
[18:37] <drodriguezpadill> ...TJ, Zoom Mode include Standard, Wide Zoom, Wide, and Zoom
[18:37] <Fohlen> calligawords is already in the repos, but it's calligra 2.6.3 and heavily buggy :(
[18:38] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: The issue is usually caused by incorrect EDID data sent by the TV to the PC
[18:38] <wise_phone> Tj- yes i believe so..
[18:38] <drodriguezpadill> TJ, What would I need to do to fix it?
[18:39] <Sprocks> willwh or anyone else that has used byobu do you know how i can get it to use my .bash_profile? i have aliases in it that i would like to be able to use in byobu
[18:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: Are there any external devices left plugged in; USB, firewire, ExpressCard, etc.?
[18:39] <wise_phone> Tj- only the usb drive with linux on it.
[18:40] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: It's difficult; either calculate and install a custom modeline for the X server, of else capture, modify, and use as an over-ride, the EDID data
[18:40] <Beldar> Fohlen, Never used it but found this info, be aware PPA's are not supported here is all. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8
[18:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that isn't the installed Ubuntu, then I'd suggest unplugging it. We had someone else earlier had identical symptoms and the cause was leaving the mobile phone connected during boot
[18:41] <Fohlen> Beldar thanks so far, but those only contain the main calligra package (whole suit) :(
[18:41] <SW__> >Hi.   How can I wipe bash history,  and also wipe the command that wiped the bash history ?
[18:42] <willwh> Sprocks: not sure, sorry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/525552
[18:42] <wise_phone> Tj- its the live usb installer though.
[18:42] <willwh> SW__: "hide my tracks" :E
[18:42] <LoWeStEr> could someone help me out, i was about to install ubuntu on win8 built-in pc, but it came with 6 partitions
[18:42] <Beldar> LoWeStEr, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[18:43] <SW__> willwh: Nothing sinister
[18:43] <paloalt0> I ran testdisk to try to fix my MBR and now all I get is a 1234F prompt that does nothing when i try to boot. i downloaded some rescue distros to a flashdrive but it won't boot the flash drive or give me a way to get to the BIOS. Any suggestions?
[18:43] <paloalt0> oops sorry bad paste
[18:43] <willwh> SW__: that sounds pretty sinister
[18:43] <willwh> :)
[18:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, but if you're having problems booting the *installed* Ubuntu, then that won't be required.
[18:43] <paloalt0> I ran testdisk to try to fix my MBR and now all I get is a 1234F prompt that does nothing when i try to boot. i downloaded some rescue distros to a flashdrive but it won't boot the flash drive or give me a way to get to the BIOS. Any suggestions?
[18:44] <Fohlen> Beldar is there a posibility to obtain calligra packages from 13.10 ?
[18:44] <Fohlen> because those are 2.7.2 already =)
[18:44] <TJ-> SW__: "history -c" will clear the ~/.bash_history and you can use "history -d <entry>" to delete a specific entry
[18:44] <wise_phone> Tj- i cant even get that far, i cant install ubuntu.
[18:44] <Beldar> Fohlen, Not sure I had never heard of it.
[18:45] <TJ-> wise_phone: I understood from your original description you'd Installed but it won't boot afterwards?
[18:45] <Fohlen> because basically, .deb remains .deb
[18:45] <Fohlen> :D
[18:45] <SW__> TJ-: I want it so arrowing up shows nothing,   not the history -c,  or -w
[18:45] <SW__> Just nothing ;p
[18:45] <TJ-> SW__: "history -d" or turn it off
[18:45] <wise_phone> Tj- sorry, i should have been more clear.  Im unable to access the installer.
[18:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, I've re-read what you typed... got it now :)
[18:46] <Sailor7009> could someone help me out installing ubuntu in a win8 built-in pc, it came with 6 partitions
[18:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: Right, so, the question now becomes, how did you create the USB device?
[18:47] <wise_phone> Tj- downloaded 13.10 iso, made the usb with lili
[18:47] <jhutchins> kjs: What was the package you were looking for multiarch on?
[18:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: Did you check the md5sum of the installed image once it was created?
[18:48] <Beldar> paloalt0, You familiar with the per-session boot menu, outside the bios?
[18:49] <wise_phone> Tj- ill run through that process again and check the md5sum
[18:49] <Beldar> !uefi | Sailor7009
[18:49] <Beldar> Sailor7009, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[18:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: A quick test is, try (from Windows) booting it in a Virtual Machine. According to the Linuxliveusb.com web-site, it comes with a virtualization feature to do that
[18:50] <Beldar> Sailor7009, You want to resize windows from its partitioner leaving a unallocated area for the ubuntu install.
[18:50] <Sprocks> willwh i found a way to get it to work, instead of trying to reference the .bash_profile directly i have byobu run bash --login
[18:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: see http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/help/guide/using-lili
[18:53] <Sailor7009> thanks a lot, Beldar: this isn't an issue to change disk with all these partitions?
[18:54] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Not sure I understand your question.
[18:54] <Sailor7009> i mean those tutorials over there said make sure to not have more than 3 partition
[18:55] <Beldar> Sailor7009, The ones I gave are standard the 3 partition limit is a msdos partition table reference, you have a uefi table and are gpt.
[18:55] <willwh> Sprocks: ye I saw that in the laucnhpad bug too - glad you got it working :)
[18:55] <spoutnik16> hi guys
[18:56] <spoutnik16> i'm searching how to save a desktop session (i means programs + windows lcoation) on ubuntu 13.10 shutdown
[18:56] <spoutnik16> so, when i wake up my computer, it is like it was when i closed it
[18:56] <spoutnik16> hi guys
[18:57] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Do you know the differences on a msdos and efi/gpt partition tablinb.
[18:57] <Beldar> tabling*
[18:57] <TJ-> spoutnik16: If the PC is "shutdown" it powers off; so it doesn't "wake" - that term is used for resuming from Hibernation or Suspend-to-RAM
[18:57] <Sailor7009> Beldar: not at all
[18:58] <lancro> Sailor7009, I instaled ubuntu in my system, uefi, with windows 8.1
[18:58] <lancro> You need unallocated space, make it from windows
[18:58] <Sailor7009> i was wandering if you could go into details
[18:58] <lancro> and in the installation go to the advanced options in partitioning
[18:58] <Sailor7009> yes,
[18:58] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > well, i'm looking for a way to save my desktop (open programs + their workspace lcoation) when i power it off, so when i power it up it will be the same
[18:58] <lancro> in windows in the administration center, right click on your computer administrate
[18:59] <Sailor7009> they mentioned 3 partitions, i got 6, i want understand this
[18:59] <TJ-> spoutnik16: I'd recommend you investigate Hibernation then; that's it purpose.
[18:59] <lancro> I think I have more
[19:00] <lancro> the efi partition, the windows partition, 2 other dell partitions for system checkup, 2 ubuntu partitions, and 3 for centos
[19:00] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > ok, thank you :)
[19:00] <wise_phone> Tj- im in the ubuntu installer now.. Humm..
[19:00] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Cool, no biggie. Look closely at both links I gave you. The Ubuntu Forums ones is especially helpful in the partitioning, imaging/cloning W8.1 and making a recovery disc.
[19:00] <Sailor7009> i create a partition from c:/?
[19:00] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > in my mind, hibernation was more about polar bears and marmots
[19:00] <TJ-> Sailor7009: Before we had UEFI firmware, there was BIOS. At that time disks used an MSDOS-based partitioning scheme that limited the disk to 4 'primary' partitions. Over time that proved to be too few, so UEFI introduced GPT which can have 128.
[19:00] <Sailor7009> is it?
[19:00] <lancro> you srink the partition
[19:01] <lancro> for example you have a 1TB partition, you make it smaller, like 800GB, and leave the rest for the installer
[19:01] <lancro> make room for ubuntu
[19:01] <TJ-> Sailor7009: Windows 8.x required UEFI, which requires in turn GPT, so there is now no 4-partition limitation, so all you need to do is free up some space allocated to Windows so that the partition that contains that space can be shrunk, and a new partition created that will point to that free space, which can then be used by the Ubuntu installer
[19:02] <Sailor7009> thank you guys
[19:02] <Sailor7009> I'm going there
[19:02] <Sailor7009> now i thoroughly understand
[19:02] <TJ-> wise_phone: In the installer? Can you find the "Virtualize_This_Key.exe" program using Windows Explorer on the USB itself?
[19:05] <wise_phone> Tj- yes, im partitioning my drive now though via the installer.
[19:06] <OMGTallMonster> I'm having issues with my graphics card overheating, even on the lowest profile setting. I don't have this problem when I boot into Windows. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask for help, though.
[19:06] <kjs> jhutchins: libboost-all-dev
[19:06] <kjs> jhutchins: thanks
[19:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: Ahhh, OK ... but that worries me a bit since Windows is currently running :)
[19:07] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster: make/model? Ubuntu version, architecture?
[19:07] <james_d_h> Anyone know if there will be a security update to address this http://nginx.org/en/security_advisories.html?1.5.12 soon?
[19:07] <wise_phone> Tj- i booted via the usb into the installer.  Windows is not running atm.
[19:08] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, cool :)
[19:09] <TJ-> james_d_h: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/nginx.html
[19:09] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Radeon HD 4770. I'm running 13.10 64 bit.
[19:10] <ronaldsmazitis> hi ubunties
[19:10] <ronaldsmazitis> how to restore nautilus as default file manager
[19:11] <wise_phone> Tj- hopefully this is the last of my problems!  Windows 8.1 is pretty sucky, and this is my first computer in years.
[19:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: You're doing well so far :)
[19:11] <james_d_h> TJ-: I don't see the CVE question on that page, should I notifiy someone?
[19:12] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster: I'm reading there's an issue with the radeon driver, which in combination with a recent kernel can be worked around/solved by adding "radeon.dpm=1" to the kernel's command line
[19:12] <wise_phone> Tj- thanks, cant wait to see how much ubuntu has changed over the years.
[19:13] <TJ-> james_d_h: Yes, it's possible the package is synced directly from Debian without Ubuntu changes, so it might be needing the Debian maintainer to look at it, but that's my speculation, I've not looked that deeply
[19:13] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: see the lower part about manual way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[19:13] <TJ-> james_d_h: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.11.x_.28Ubuntu_13.10.2BAC8-Saucy.29_and_Later
[19:13] <james_d_h> TJ-: pretty nasty remote heap buffer overflow in spdy bleeding edge in dev ppa is still affected
[19:13] <TJ-> oops!!
[19:13] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Sorry, but how would I go about adding to the kernel's command line?
[19:14] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster:  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.11.x_.28Ubuntu_13.10.2BAC8-Saucy.29_and_Later
[19:14] <james_d_h> lol i was very confused for a moment.
[19:14] <TJ-> james_d_h: Bet you weren't the only one :)
[19:14] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Thanks, I'll try that. :)
[19:15] <TJ-> james_d_h: Looking at the entire CVE list for Ubuntu's Universe pocket, 2014-0133 is not there:  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html
[19:24] <chris11> is /home/-user usually private?
[19:24] <james_d_h> TJ-: yeah I may have to roll my own deb unti they get something out there.
[19:24] <b14ckw07m> Hi
[19:24] <b14ckw07m> all
[19:25] <mr> how do you play movies from netflix?
[19:25] <k1l> chris11: only the -user has access to that, yes. (or root)
[19:25] <wise_phone> Tj- one other thing.  The ubuntu installer told me it didnt recognize any installed os's.  I resized the main ntfs partition to 50gb, made a swap of 4gb, and an ext4 of about 450gb.  This probably means ill have to configure grub2 to be able to boot into win8.1?
[19:26] <chris11> thanks k1l
[19:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: No... with UEFI the firmware keeps the boot menu itself, the OS's just tell it to add/remove entries. Linux does that using the "efibootmgr" tool which the package "grub-efi" calls upon. So GRUB no longer needs to mess about supporting already-installed OSes
[19:29] <wise_phone> Tj- oh i see.
[19:32] <wise_phone> Tj- ahh.. Upon installation of Ubuntu completed, restart booted me into windows with no boot manager menu...
[19:34] <ilhami> Hey
[19:34] <ilhami> answer me
[19:35] <dtcrshr> ilhami: whats the question?
[19:35] <ilhami> I have only one resolution for Ubuntu
[19:35] <ilhami> how can I get more?
[19:35] <ilhami> It's running in VM
[19:35] <ilhami> I have to scroll up and down to see the whole window
[19:35] <ilhami> that's so annoying.
[19:36] <ilhami> is there a file I can modify?
[19:37] <ZZRMike> I'm trying to set up a dev environment with apache, but I'm having issues with it forwarding to localhost from whatever test domain i set the site as.
[19:38] <ilhami> :D
[19:38] <ilhami> remember to start apache
[19:39] <willwh> ZZRMike: did you make an entry in /etc/hosts?
[19:39] <ZZRMike> yes
[19:39] <willwh> also - in your apache config, make sure you used named Vhosts
[19:39] <willwh> also, a2ensite <sitename>
[19:39] <willwh> from /etc/apache2/sites-available
[19:39] <ZZRMike> I didn't do that, I'll give that a try, thanks.
[19:40] <willwh> or cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled && sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/<sitename>
[19:41] <willwh> I always recommend people do this: cd /etc/apache2/sites-avilable && sudo cp default mydefault && sudo /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default && sudo a2enmod mydefault
[19:41] <willwh> that way you don't need to worry about replacing package maintainers configs through upgrades
[19:42] <willwh> ZZRMike: I can help if you get stuck.... but I am really busy, you can hilight me and I'll get back as I can
[19:42] <willwh> I don't monitor the channel too much
[19:42] <ZZRMike> willwh: Will do, thanks.
[19:42] <willwh> ZZRMike: np :)
[19:47] <kjs> Guys I need a solution for installing libboost-all-dev i386 on a AMD64 ubuntu 12.04 lts system.
[19:47] <Guest20522> hello
[19:47] <llutz> kjs: apt-get install libboost-all-dev:i386
[19:48] <ramsub07> Hi guys, what are all the possible libraries with which I can generate a specific HTML from a given text ?
[19:48] <ramsub07> using bash
[19:48] <ikonia> ramsub07: what ????
[19:48] <ikonia> just write a shell script to write html templates
[19:51] <willwh> ramsub07: bash is has limited library support
[19:51] <willwh> use python :P
[19:51] <willwh> ramsub07: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11369522/bash-utility-script-library
[19:51] <TJ-> kjs: see bug #918438
[19:52] <kjs> TJ-: llutz https://gist.github.com/anonymous/322c648b0b2019544143
[19:53] <wise_phone> Tj- i can initiate ubuntu booting from hdd, running with argument nomodeset and quiet splash removed.  System hangs saying 'starting'
[19:53] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Are there any known issues with that boot parameter and xrandr? Whenever I try to move the location of my screen via xrandr, the entire OS freezes.
[19:53] <llutz> kjs:" Try 'apt-get -f install'"   did you?
[19:53] <wise_phone> Any ideas?
[19:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: Hmmm :(
[19:55] <wise_phone> Tj- :(
[19:55] <arcsky> when i do rdp to my win machine on my LAN i dont get nice colors etc it doesnt work well from linux to win ?
[19:55] <behrooz> hello everyone , i have question for run source browser plugin in gedit 3.4.1
[19:55] <behrooz>  may i have question here ?
[19:57] <TJ-> wise_phone: Try again, adding also to the kernel's command-line "rootdelay=90"
[19:59] <kjs> llutz: yeah i tried - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/49733f558e01348b8fa5
[19:59] <wise_phone> Tj- so...   Initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-18-generic rootdelay=90
[19:59] <kjs> problem is i need both 64 and 32 bit
[20:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: no... on the "linux ..." line. "initrd" is a different line
[20:00] <llutz> kjs: you cannot,  libboost-all-dev:amd64 onflicts: libboost-all-dev:i386
[20:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: "linux ..." and "initrd ..." are two GRUB commands telling the boot-loader where to find the kernel and initial ramdisk, respectively
[20:01] <llutz> Conflicts*
[20:01] <TJ-> kjs: Your best solution is to create a 32-bit chroot to build in
[20:02] <TJ-> kjs: Or, if you're patching Debian/Ubuntu packages, use a pbuilder or similar
[20:02] <kjs> not patching
[20:02] <kjs> I coudl go chroot.
[20:02] <kjs> so chroot or different machine.
[20:03] <kjs> previously devs just built from source, bodging it and get around the issue.
[20:03] <TJ-> kjs: For package building I generally use a pbuilder for the target arch and release
[20:04] <wise_phone> Tj- adding rootdelay=90 causes it to hang at the purple grub screen (blank screen, no text, just purple)
[20:08] <ring3> hi
[20:08] <ring3> my ecryptfs decrypt my home when turn on the computer, wtf? anybody can descrypt my pc turning on it
[20:09] <Jordan_U> ring3: No, it decrypts your home directory when you log in.
[20:09] <ring3> no, i doesnt loged in, and via tty, i see my home
[20:09] <ring3> ctrl+alt f1 before the log-in
[20:09] <ring3> the partition is automounted
[20:09] <llutz> ring3: and there you login
[20:10] <ring3> i loign but on the shell
[20:10] <llutz> omg
[20:10] <llutz> ring3: login is login
[20:10] <ring3> oks
[20:10] <ring3> it is mounted so quick, that it seem to be mounted
[20:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: The 'purple' screen is the 'splash' graphical background, so something is happening. Try using "rootdelay=90 nomodeset debug" and removing "quiet splash", if anything is reported we know the kernel is starting
[20:12] <breno_> is it right to say that the difference between a iso.manifest and iso.list files are that the source packages and the second are the binary packages?
[20:14] <wise_phone> Tj- okay those arguments take me through the normal booting procedure, then to a blank screen with just a '_' blinking in the top Left corner.
[20:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: I don't like that PC!
[20:16] <TJ-> wise_phone: by "normal booting procedure" do you mean you see the kernel's boot messages but when it reaches the expected log-in it doesn't switch to the graphical log-in?
[20:16] <TJ-> wise_phone: If so, try switching to a text terminal with Alt+Ctrl+F1
[20:17] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that shows a "login: " prompt then you can at least get in and work on fixing the graphical drivers for the video card, which will be the problem
[20:17] <wise_phone> Yeah says all the normal stuff with [OK] next to most them
[20:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, great, that proves the system is installed correctly, so you need to identify the video adapter and which drivers it has, because it'll be that causing GUI to fail.
[20:19] <wise_phone> Ok, i logged in... Im at a bash prompt.
[20:20] <Zelgod> Hey, i don't know if this is the right channel to ask for help but ill try. I'm trying to install linux mint on my laptop and im getting a black screen with no HDD activity
[20:20] <wise_phone> I ran 'startx'. Fatal server error, no screens found
[20:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: Let's find out if the network has connectivity; if so, you'll be able to pastebin config info
[20:20] <rww> ubottu: mintsupport | Zelgod
[20:21] <wise_phone> How can i do that?
[20:21] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ip addr" - that'll show the IPv4 and IPv6 address(es). If your LAN is IPv4 only, then check the PC has been assigned an IPv4 via DHCP
[20:21] <Zelgod> rww do you suggest i try ubuntu instead?
[20:21] <Zelgod> that help channel is a wasteland.
[20:22] <wise_phone> I have an ip address.
[20:22] <rww> Zelgod: Well, it depends. If there's some reason you went with Mint that warrants using it, then you're stuck with Mint support. If you just picked at random, then yes, I'd go with Ubuntu.
[20:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: To control the GUI nowadays, you do "sudo service lightdm {start,restart,stop}"
[20:22] <guntbert> !brain > guntbert
[20:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: Great! Can you do "lspci -vnn | pastebinit" and give me the URL of the pastebin?
[20:23] <TJ-> wise_phone: warning: I have to go do dinner very soon so I may have to leave you to find someone else to take over, but if you tell them it's a new install, video driver issue, there should be plenty of folks able to help
[20:24] <wise_phone> Ok... How can i send the log file?
[20:24] <guntbert> !pastebin | wise_phone
[20:25] <Zelgod> rww: i looked a review and apparently mint is supposed to be snappier however i'd be fine with whatever distro has more support and work with my laptop.
[20:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: If you used the command I gave you, pastebinit will have posted the output to a pastebin and given you the URL, which you simply need to give here
[20:26] <wise_phone> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116154
[20:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: You can pipe output from stdout to pastebinit, or you can send files with "pastebinit /path/to/file"
[20:26] <wise_phone> Tj- thats neat!
[20:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[20:27] <Zelgod> rww: currently as it stands i have a windows 8 installed, im looking to dual boot ubuntu or another unix distro that would work.
[20:27] <Cancel> anyone know where ubuntu is mounting cifs/smb shares I read documentation that said ~/.gvfs but no such location
[20:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"  - I have to go for dinner, so I'll hand over to others now. Those pastebins should help to identify the issue.
[20:28] <wise_phone> Tj- paste.ubuntu.com/7116161
[20:28] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116163
[20:29] <wise_phone> Tj- thank you so much for your help!!
[20:29] <TJ-> wise_phone: that last log shows the errrors; someone else should be able to help you solve that
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Cancel: How are you mounting the share?
[20:30] <Cancel> Through nautilus, browsing, bookmarking
[20:30] <Cancel> I'm not using the mount command
[20:31] <Jordan_U> Cancel: And with a CIFS mount, running "ls ~/.gvfs/" prints what?
[20:31] <Cancel> no such file or directory
[20:31] <wise_phone> Thanks afain tj-, can somebody please help me solve this issue?
[20:32] <Cancel> which there isn't I said that to start with. So I'm curious is nautilus really not mounting and maybe using smbclient style of access
[20:32] <john96> Zelgod: download ubuntu and install it.. there is an option for dual boot in the installer
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Cancel: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:33] <Cancel> I'm on 13
[20:33] <Zelgod> Thanks john96 already on it. The amount of people in this room was enough to convince me lol
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Try /run/user/username/gvfs/.
[20:34] <Cancel> no such file or directory
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[20:35] <Cancel> Jordan_U: ahead of you thought about that too just by type in a mount and I don't see diddly but I'll pastebin
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Also, just so you know, there is no "Ubuntu 13", there is only "Ubuntu 13.04" and "Ubuntu 13.10".
[20:35] <Cancel> 13.10 to be exact
[20:36] <Anonymous4994> Hello
[20:37] <Cancel> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/a1zh6bqr
[20:37] <Cancel> Jordan_U: hey I could be blind but I'm on two shares two different servers and see nada
[20:37] <wise_phone> Anybody have any idea how to fix my gfx drivers... Or whatever the problem may be??
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Cancel: /run/user/1000/gvfs , I was wrong and it's UID rather than user name.
[20:40] <Cancel> Jordan_U: I think we've found it. Thanks.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Cancel: You're welcome.
[20:44] <wise_phone> Anybody able to help me fix lightdm?
[20:44] <john96> wise_dm: maybe, what's your problem
[20:44] <john96> ?
[20:45] <ChibaPet> I'm looking for the default XFCE monospace font, as mentioned here: http://makandracards.com/makandra/12437-how-to-set-the-default-monospace-font-on-xfce-xubuntu     But I'm not sure where it lives or what package owns it. Does anyone have pointers?
[20:45] <wise_phone> John96, i cant start it.  Heres my xorg log paste.ubuntu.com/7116163
[20:45] <ChibaPet> It seems not to be Liberation, DejaVu, or FreeMono.
[20:48] <ChibaPet> Hm, I guess it *is* Deja Vu Sans Mono after all.
[20:51] <manuel_> PKp
[21:09] <mrogne> anyone using AWN? I just added the "Show Desktop" applet, but was wondering if there is a way to make it not toggle between "Show Desktop" and "Show All Windows"....... but just *stay* as "Show Desktop"?
[21:12] <TJ-> wise_phone: Back - have you made any progess?
[21:13] <wise_phone>  Tj- nothing to any avail :/
[21:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'll scan the log-files
[21:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: First thing to note is, the video chipset is the Intel i915.
[21:16] <Pessimist> wise_phone, do you have any fancy configuration, kernel?
[21:16] <wise_phone> Tj- heres my xorg.conf.  paste.ubuntu.com/7116387
[21:17] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:17] <wise_phone> Tj- notice there are multiple screens listed... Could that be the issue?
[21:17] <robotti^> I find some little bug on ubuntu 14.04
[21:18] <Pessimist> wise_phone, you don't have multiple screens? You can try renaming it to Xorg.conf.bak and restart X
[21:18] <john96> robotti: whats the bug?
[21:18] <Beldar> !14.04 | robotti^
[21:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: How did you create the xorg.conf? There shouldn't be one - X server auto-configures itself
[21:19] <wise_phone> Pessimist, nope just a single screen, laptop.
[21:19] <mrogne> anyone using AWN? I just added the "Show Desktop" applet, but was wondering if there is a way to make it not toggle between "Show Desktop" and "Show All Windows"....... but just *stay* as "Show Desktop"?
[21:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: I assume you created that with "Xorg -configure" ?
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  there's also #awn
[21:20] <Pessimist> wise_phone, sudo cp /etc/X11/Xorg.conf /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.bak && sudo rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (this should do the trick -- backup current Xorg.conf and remove the old one) and then try starting X
[21:20] <wise_phone> Tj- yes, xorg -configure
[21:20] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: didn't know that. thanks. only 2-3 ppl in there atm tho =(
[21:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: The original Xorg.0.log you pasted wasn't using that, it was still using the auto-configuration, so you can just delete that file - it won't help.
[21:20] <nysxo> When 14.04 LTS is officially released, will it be possible to upgrade an RC installation without completely reinstalling?
[21:20] <Pessimist> nysxo, yes
[21:21] <nysxo> thank you :)
[21:22] <nysxo> Can anyone point me to a recommended guide for setting up a windows/ubuntu 14.04 dual-boot system with full disk encryption?
[21:22] <Beldar> !14.04 | nysxo
[21:22] <tmmunq> ubuntu cannot encrypt windows, you will need to use bitlocker or truecrypt
[21:22] <wise_phone> Tj- ok its removed, still wont start lightdm
[21:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm concerned that the "lspci" output doesn't show the kernel driver in use for the i915, but the syslog shows it being initialised. As both those were captured during the same session, that is ... confusing
[21:23] <TJ-> wise_phone: "lsmod | grep i915" ... does that show the i915 kernel module is loaded?
[21:24] <Pessimist> wise_phone, what's the Xorg.0.log now?
[21:24] <Pessimist> wise_phone, I think you are missing the kernel module or you are using a kernel you compiled yourself and forgot to choose some options
[21:25] <TJ-> Pessimist: This was the log immediately after booting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116163/
[21:25] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116424
[21:25] <TJ-> Pessimist: It's a fresh installation, UEFI system, we had some 'issues' getting it installed, then booted (rootdelay=90) so now we're working on the DRI
[21:26] <Pessimist> TJ-, 3.2 kernel? hue
[21:26] <wise_phone> Pessimist its a fresh install of 13.10, no kernal modification.
[21:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: That looks good. Pessimist The syslog is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116161/
[21:28] <Pessimist> wise_phone, and you are using kernel 3.2 on 13.10?
[21:29] <wise_phone> Pessimist umm... Im not sure.
[21:30] <TJ-> wise_phone: before we go too far, do a system update and then reboot: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:31] <TJ-> wise_phone: Pessimist  vmlinuz-3.11.0-18-generic.efi.signed
[21:31] <wise_phone> Tj- okay its running the dist upgrade now.
[21:31] <Pessimist> wise_phone, well, your situation is weird
[21:35] <wise_phone> Pessimist I'm aware :)
[21:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ls -al /dev/dri/* | pastebinit"
[21:37] <Pessimist> wise_phone, only idea I have is that something is wrong with your kernel because there is no /dev/dri/card0. Probably intel dri driver is missing and I don't know exactly which package provides it in ubuntu -- probably xorg-video-intel so you can try reinstalling that. Good luck, I'm bailing out!
[21:38] <TJ-> wise_phone: Also, "ls -al /sys/bus/pci/drivers/i915/ | pastebinit"
[21:39] <wise_phone> Ok just waiting for the update to finish, pastebin those after reboot?
[21:40] <Beryl> Anyone know why synaptic scrolls up every time you do something? extremely annoying
[21:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: no, do it before
[21:41] <TJ-> wise_phone: If the problem goes away after reboot, fine, but I want to have all the logs from the same session
[21:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: and a third request: "cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset"
[21:45] <wise_phone> Ls -al /dev/dri/*   gives ereor no such file or directory
[21:46] <wise_phone> Same with the second command
[21:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so despite evidence to the contrary, the i915 driver has somehow failed
[21:47] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116529
[21:47] <TJ-> wise_phone: "sudo modprobe -r i915 && sudo modprobe i915"
[21:47] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then, "tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[21:48] <wise_phone> Ok, should i try to reload the i915 drivers?
[21:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: ^^^^ yes, do the modprobe
[21:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: I want to try two variations of loading them, this is the first
[21:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think that "-1" is the issue, because it means: "-1=force vga console preference [default])"
[21:49] <wise_phone> Error cannot initialize the aptgart module.
[21:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think we're going need to give the kernel another command-line option "i915.modeset=1" ... but we'll try that later when you reboot
[21:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: agpgart? aha!
[21:50] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116543
[21:51] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK... check if i915 has partially loaded with "lsmod | grep i915". If it has loaded, unload it: "sudo modprobe -r i915"
[21:52] <wise_phone> Tj- ok unloaded.
[21:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then do "sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1" then let's check the log again "tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[21:52] <nichlas> can anyone recommend a router for a 150 megabit connection?
[21:53] <wise_phone> Ok sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1 gives me a blank screen i cant get out of.
[21:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: really? OK, try switching to another tty and log-in: Alt+F2
[21:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that doesn't work, try Alt+F1 to get back to the first TTY, and try Ctrl+C to interrupt the process, if that doesn't work, try Ctrl+Z to suspend the process
[21:56] <wise_phone> I couldnt switch tty... Rebooting
[21:56] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK :) Boy, you've got a challenge with that system!
[21:58] <wise_phone> Tj- its an uphill battle...
[21:58] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116571
[21:58] <TJ-> wise_phone: from my searching, it's a common issue with that model, even though - apparently - Acer sell it with Linux pre-installed too
[21:59] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so you've rebooted? did you have to switch to TTY1 and log-in  again?
[22:00] <basketball> how do i use the dd comand i need to write a .img to sd card
[22:00] <willwh> man dd
[22:01] <wise_phone> Tj- tty1 says starting lightdm, stopping send an event to indicate plymouth is up
[22:01] <wise_phone> Im in tty2
[22:01] <anonymous_> hi
[22:01] <anonymous_> hi
[22:01] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK
[22:01] <anonymous_> ho
[22:01] <anonymous_> back track
[22:01] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[22:02] <anonymous_> sql inject
[22:02] <anonymous_> alguem
[22:03] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116593
[22:04] <basketball> is there a gui for dd
[22:05] <TJ-> wise_phone: It seems that syslog file has been truncated by pastebin, or else it isn't being updated. Last entry was at 14:08
[22:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ls -latr /var/log/ | pastebinit" ... let's check the log files latest update times
[22:07] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116613
[22:09] <TJ-> wise_phone: probably pastebin truncated it, let's do a part of it: "tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:10] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116631
[22:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: "if pgrep lightdm; then sudo service stop lightdm; fi"
[22:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: That'll stop the X server... now unload i915 "sudo modprobe -r i915"
[22:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then try let's see if we can monitor the i915 driver as it is loaded: "tail -n 0 -f /var/log/kern.log& sleep 1; sudo modprobe i915 modeset=0" ... you should see the kern.log output written to tty as modprobe operates (in case it locks up the tty again)
[22:18] <wise_phone> Ok... Cannot initialize agpgart module, fill_In_dev failed
[22:19] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, I think we need to figure that out - whether it is incidental or actually the root cause
[22:20] <wise_phone> Tj- ok... Hummmmm
[22:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: "sudo lspci -vvvnn -s 00:02.0 | pastebinit"
[22:23] <wise_phone>  Paste. Ubuntu.com/7116682
[22:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so the failure is causing the driver to not take over the device, even if the driver is in memory.
[22:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: That helps understand the strange behaviour!
[22:25] <multiverse> I notice that VMware Fusion 6.0.2 Unity on OS X 10.9.2 with Ubuntu 13.10 is greyed out.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:26] <wise_phone> Tj- thats a step in the righr direction!
[22:26] <jtrucks> how would I see the size of a file in the repos without downloading it? I'm hunting for someting from 11.04 so Im trying to figure out where to find it in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty*
[22:26] <sadpuppy> fer sure
[22:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: Try rebooting *without* using "nomodeset" ... use "text" to have the system boot with a text rather than graphical console, until the X server (tries to) start
[22:26] <sadpuppy> distrowatch
[22:26] <multiverse> vmtoolsd is running
[22:26] <multiverse> Fusion offers "Reinstall VMware Tools" in "Virtual Machine" pulldown.
[22:26] <multiverse> Here's a screenshot:  https://tmpdmp.com/11380dcb5428fb6a/603cdaefbbd0eba1
[22:28] <jtrucks> sadpuppy: thanks
[22:30] <wise_phone> Tj- that just boots me to a blank unresponsive screen.
[22:30] <sadpuppy> np
[22:31] <jtrucks> sadpuppy: hmm. anywhere show actaul file lists and versions/sizes of libraries?
[22:31] <jtrucks> I'm trying to verify a library file on a machine..
[22:31] <TJ-> wise_phone: Does Alt+Ctrl+F1 get you nowhere?
[22:31] <sadpuppy> just pick a os
[22:32] <sadpuppy> top of page
[22:32] <wise_phone> Tj- nope
[22:34] <wise_phone> I booted up with i915.modeset=0 and it took me to the tty login..
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, try also adding "text i915.modeset=0 debug" and remove "quiet splash" ... I'm afraid it's a case of trying permutations until we can get a firm lead on where to go
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: haha you're ahead of me!
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, if you're at the login, can you do "tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:37] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116747
[22:37] <TJ-> wise_phone: After that, please try another reboot with "debug i915.modeset=0 i915.invert_brightness=1"
[22:39] <Ainsey11> anyone around?
[22:40] <wise_phone> Ok rebooted with those arguments
[22:42] <TJ-> wise_phone: Did you get a GUI, or TTYs?
[22:42] <xubuntu> hi
[22:43] <wise_phone> Tj- attemps to load gui, unresponsive blank screen.  I can access tty.
[22:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm working through the kernel DRM source-code that generates the "*ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module" message. It is a fatal error (drivers/gpu/drm/drm_stub.c::drm_dev_register() bails out if it fails)
[22:44] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK ... let's do the same stuff again, in case something changed: "tail -n 1200 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:45] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116775
[22:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: I've read indications that this may be a bug in the kernel version, and 3.13 *may* fix it - found an Intel open-source labs changelog for the i915 driver that says that, but not entirely clear that applies to your specific system
[22:48] <wise_phone> Oh ok... Worth a try to update the kernel?
[22:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: not unless we can get a much better indication, else we are changing variables that might introduce other issues
[22:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: I've found a suggestion that this (kind of) issue might be solved simply using the kernel command-line option "video.backlight=vendor" ... try using that: "debug video.backlight=vendor" and remove "quiet splash"
[22:53] <wise_phone> Tj- that just booted me into an unresponsive blank screen, no way out.
[22:53] <TJ-> wise_phone: Grrr!
[22:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, another permutation: lets try influencing the ACPI side: "debug acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[22:56] <pigiamino65> hello
[22:57] <wise_phone> Tj- same blank screen :/
[22:57] <pigiamino65> need help to recovery data from a damaged usb pendrive pls
[22:59] <pigiamino65> using GPated it sees nothing
[23:00] <pigiamino65> by disk manager it says generic usb flash disk
[23:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm reading the kernel patches related to this stuff, no clues so far
[23:00] <pigiamino65> firmware 7.76
[23:01] <pigiamino65> with testdosk it sees nothing
[23:01] <pigiamino65> testdisk
[23:01] <pigiamino65> anyone can help me pls
[23:01] <Diamondcite> If it detects a 0Byte large USB drive, I have no idea how to get data back
[23:03] <pigiamino65> Diamondcite you mean no chance at all?
[23:04] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: I had one of my USB keys pulled during a data write, my key died on the spot..
[23:04] <pigiamino65> the light on the usb device works
[23:04] <pigiamino65> could it be formatted ?
[23:04] <pigiamino65> it was used for little minutes by bad guy
[23:04] <pigiamino65> surely there is a trick
[23:05] <pigiamino65> but dont know if i have a chance or not
[23:05] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: From online research, it might be possible to make the key usable again, but I haven't found any conventional means to get data back. Data recovery places will probably have better luck if they read what is on the chip directly instead of going through the built in controller
[23:05] <meep2424> hi all.  Quick question, I don't see an alternate 13.10 installer, is encrypted LVM an option with the normal ubiquity installer now?
[23:06] <pigiamino65> thanks can you recommend me any right place for my search?
[23:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think we *may* have found an explanation. I think you need to enter the system's UEFI setup at boot-time, find the Compatibility Support Module (CSM) aka Legacy BIOS option, and enable it.
[23:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: That may already be enabled, but if it isn't, enable it and try a normal boot without adding kernel command-line options
[23:07] <TJ-> meep2424: Yes
[23:07] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: Sadly I don't have any recommendations, unless you want to look up how to read a flash chip directly. I don't remember the name, some had claimed there is a utility which can rewrite the drive's firmware to give it space visible again.
[23:07] <wise_phone> Tj- there is no csm or legacy option.
[23:08] <meep2424> thanks TJ-
[23:08] <wise_phone> Tj- secure boot is disabled.
[23:08] <TJ-> wise_phone: secure boot is OK; it's the CSM support that you need to enable
[23:10] <TJ-> wise_phone: The reason being, when in pure UEFI mode, the UEFI firmware is responsible for providing some video services and many UEFI images out there are buggy in that respect. Using CSM/Legacy allows the kernel to completely initialise the video hardware
[23:11] <wise_phone> Tj- there are no options to enable legacy or csm...
[23:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: Hmmm, I wonder what they call it!
[23:11] <Diamondcite> Secure boot?
[23:13] <west24352> just started on xubuntu - screensaver keeps kicking in, want to make the timeout longer but cannot find the place to set it, any help?
[23:14] <TJ-> wise_phone: Maybe that model only provides EFI video, in which case, we have to continue searching
[23:15] <wise_phone> Tj- possibly.  Under "boot type" the only option is uefi.
[23:16] <pigiamino65> Diamondcite: is it flashrom ?
[23:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: Yes, probably. anyhow, let's drop that avenue and go back to persuading the kernel to like the video chipset :)
[23:18] <TJ-> wise_phone:  I found this, which seems to be the most authoritative comments so far: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61671
[23:19] <mrogne> I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out WHAT Is bound to control+alt+UP and control+alt+DOWN... as far as I can tell, nothing is. I've looked through compiz settings and don't see anything bound to them?? :(
[23:19] <TJ-> wise_phone: the take-away is that i915 *requires* modeset to function, so if we disable it in any way the error is expected... jsut not a very friendly or understandable message
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  maybe you can use ccsm to bind an action to that key combination
[23:21] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: i want to make sure nothing is bound to them... i wanna use these in sublime text
[23:22] <darkman_> chaki
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  then apparentally you can proceed :)
[23:22] <mrogne> eh?
[23:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: That suggests you may *need* "i915.modeset=1" in order to ensure KMS (Kernel Mode Setting)
[23:22] <darkman_> spanis?
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  you say nothing has been bound to it, so what's the problem?
[23:22] <darkman_> elfo aleman?
[23:23] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: I said I can't find anything bound to it, but clearly something is
[23:23] <pigiamino65> ,
[23:23] <wise_phone> Tj- ill try that now.
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  i'm not followong, why do you think there is, if you can't find what it is?
[23:24] <k1l> !sp | darkman_
[23:24] <k1l> !spanish | darkman_
[23:24] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: I can't tell if you're trolling me or not
[23:24] <mrogne> I'm going to assume you're not. It's gotta be bound to something because nothing is happening in sublime text. It's not even changing lines.
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  i'ml trying to find out what's bothering you
[23:24] <darkman_> q top ese bot como ayud. Gracias :)
[23:25] <mrogne> Because I can't *find* anything bound to it, doesn't necessarily mean something isn't.
[23:25] <mrogne> Hence, I'm here.
[23:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that on it's own doesn't work I've found some additional options that may be required: "i915.modeset=1 i915.lvds_channel_mode=2 i915.lvds_use_ssc=0 acpi_backlight=vendor"
[23:27] <darkman_> bye
[23:29] <wise_phone> Tj- that didnt do it :/
[23:31] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: https://gist.github.com/mikerogne/9632231 - in case someone else runs into this.
[23:33] <TJ-> wise_phone: was that in response to the entry with "lvds_channel" in it?
[23:33] <wise_phone> Tj- yes
[23:34] <TJ-> wise_phone: without hands-on the system, I'm at a loss right now. I'm sure if I was in front of it I'd see something that would give me a clue
[23:34] <daftykins> can't take pics of each page of this system i take it?
[23:34] <daftykins> that's what i've had people do.
[23:34] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think it's time to try the latest mainline kernel!
[23:35] <wise_phone>  Tj- okay cool, how do i update?
[23:36] <TJ-> wise_phone: log-in. Create a temporary directory: "mkdir -p ~/Downloads/kernel/ && cd ~/Downloads/kernel"
[23:38] <wise_phone> K, done.
[23:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: I have a script I use here to get the lateset kernel; I've put it on my web-server so you can download it. "wget http://iam.tj/projects/misc/wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: once it's downloaded make it executable: "chmod +x wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: The, run it: "./wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:41] <wise_phone> Ok, running.
[23:45] <TJ-> wise_phone: once the download is complete do "cd v3.14-rc7-trusty/"  then "sudo dpkg -i linux*{all,amd64}.deb" - that'll install the 64-bit packages and should run an update-grub to make this the default boot kernel. After that, you can try a reboot.
[23:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: actually, scratch that, that'll install too many kernel flavours, let me rework that
[23:49] <hawk_7> #horriblesubs@irc.rizon.net
[23:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, that should be "cd v3.14-rc7-trusty/"  then "sudo dpkg -i linux-*rc7_*_all.deb linux-*generic*amd64.deb"
[23:51] <Guest46591> hi
[23:51] <Cinos> hi
[23:51] <wise_phone> K, installing. Tj-
[23:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: If this doesn't work I'm out of ideas for now!
[23:52] <wise_phone> Ok, done.  Reboot?
[23:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: Yes :)
[23:54] <amigamagic> Hi, I would like to know if this is a known issue with all Ubuntu distro: it's normal that heavy hard disk activity could hang your system at the point it will not respond anymore to the user?
[23:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: go to the GRUB menu... make sure that new version is the one booted
[23:55] <wise_phone> Tj- i did.  And guess what....
[23:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: I daren't guess!
[23:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: someone in ##linux has just reported the very same issue!
[23:56] <amigamagic> I mean: in other desktop/workstation operating systems, the user interaction is always prioritized, but this doesn't appear the case with ubuntu...
[23:56] <wise_phone> Tj- it worked. Im in unity!
[23:56] <TJ-> amigamagic: Yes, and there is a lowlatency kernel to help avoid it for GUI
[23:57] <TJ-> wise_phone: no way!?!?! And I just advised "Left_Turn" (from ##linux) to come here and observe!
[23:57] <amigamagic> I think I have reduced a little the problem by changing the "swappiness" variable with sysctl
[23:57] <Left_Turn> yep i idle here TJ- :)
[23:57] <amigamagic> I changed to 5 (from 60)
[23:58] <amigamagic> and now it appear to be better
[23:58] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Oh, OK, so there's a possible solution then. Install the mainline kernels
[23:58] <wise_phone> Yeah!!! Tj- you are the man, ya know!
[23:58] <TJ-> wise_phone: thank goodness we got it ... I'd have gone to bed depressed otherwise :p
[23:58] <Left_Turn> but my problem is im booting the iso... it doesnt make it to the terminal
[23:59] <amigamagic> TJ, there is a new kernel to give more priority to the gui?
[23:59] <TJ-> Left_Turn: OK ... you need to use "nomodeset" I think and let it run in low-graphics mode
[23:59] <Left_Turn> oh thats 1 of the boot options? ill try
[23:59] <wise_phone> For some reason i had to logon as a guest, but thats probably completely unrelated.