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| jjfrv8 | knome, a reminder that you were going to investigate http://imagebin.org/299466 | 01:05 |
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| jjfrv8 | once that's settled, I can push the remaining 8 or so chapters that depend on it | 01:05 |
| knome | you can push them, that's related to entities | 01:14 |
| knome | so we don't need to change the markup | 01:14 |
| knome | only the entities file | 01:14 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, MP is pushed | 01:56 |
| knome | MP or branch? :) | 02:00 |
| knome | i saw the email really quickly, but it went via a mail filter somewhere deep in the bin | 02:01 |
| knome | hmm, wait | 02:02 |
| knome | didn't i approve and merge this already? | 02:02 |
| knome | i did the other MP manually since it would have reintroduced stuff that was already fixed | 02:03 |
| knome | besides, you have push rights to the main branch yourself, i trust you to push only sane things | 02:04 |
| Unit193 | But not me. :D | 02:04 |
| knome | well that's why you don't have the push rights | 02:04 |
| * knome hides | 02:04 | |
| Unit193 | With that last one, I'm done on docs right? | 02:06 |
| knome | nevar | 02:06 |
| knome | :) | 02:06 |
| knome | you have entered a room. the door behind you is locked from outside. what do you do? | 02:07 |
| knome | you stood still for a time too long, and one of the doc team people noticed you with no task. you are assigned a new doc team task. what do you do? | 02:10 |
| knome | :P | 02:10 |
| Unit193 | re-sync'd mine with master. | 02:10 |
| knome | jjfrv8, Unit193: you might want to look at lp:~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-uife | 02:11 |
| Unit193 | (Should actually have been done properly too, pushed as linguas2.) | 02:11 |
| knome | didn't see any MP. hard to see diff's. | 02:11 |
| Unit193 | You were going to look before I went for the merge, make sure I'm in the right ballpark. | 02:12 |
| knome | well, | 02:12 |
| knome | it's easier to look at a MP and diff | 02:12 |
| knome | but i can look at the branch as is | 02:12 |
| knome | will try to get to that tomorrow, since doc freeze soon | 02:13 |
| Unit193 | Err, whoops then. | 02:14 |
| * Unit193 should have set jjfrv8 as reviewer again. :P | 02:14 | |
| knome | heh | 02:14 |
| Unit193 | Actually, line 103 would be of interest to him. | 02:16 |
| knome | === modified file 'scripts/translate.sh' | 02:17 |
| knome | seriously? :) | 02:17 |
| knome | i guess you mean lines 114-115 | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | Well, that it's modified is of interest of course. | 02:19 |
| Unit193 | So technically the coreutils dep isn't precisely correct, but it basically is. | 02:19 |
| knome | heh | 02:19 |
| Unit193 | If you use the linguas file, it isn't, but it falls back to a method that uses basename -s, so I left the dep in there. What do you think? | 02:21 |
| knome | the dependency is okay | 02:25 |
| Unit193 | Want anymore reviewers? | 02:25 |
| knome | i'll tell you tomorrow | 02:26 |
| knome | or add myself | 02:26 |
| Unit193 | Feel free to ask any questions. It'd be nice to move the entire translation things into the translate script, but I was pretty sure you didn't want that. :/ | 02:28 |
| knome | let's get the translations into trusty, then we can improve | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | Sure, just means the clean target is a tad slower. | 02:30 |
| knome | yaeh, but first time we have translations | 02:33 |
| * Unit193 hopes for a full Russian translation yet. | 02:39 | |
| knome | mmh, would be good to get several languages in | 02:47 |
| knome | i'm off for now | 02:48 |
| knome | see you later | 02:48 |
| Unit193 | Tschau! | 02:48 |
| elfy | knome: slideshow looks ok - the red looks better :p - all done now? | 08:09 |
| ochosi | knome, bluesabre: just talked to seb128 and Laney about the FFe for light-locker1.4.0, they both said it should be fine | 09:22 |
| ochosi | knome, bluesabre: also, cavalier wants to wait with 1.4.0 release till the weekend so we get more translations. i suggest we prep the changes in light-locker-settings and think what we wanna have as default setting | 09:22 |
| ochosi | bbiab | 09:22 |
| knome | elfy, red? :P | 10:01 |
| knome | elfy, no, two minor changes yet. | 10:01 |
| knome | hey ochosi | 10:02 |
| ochosi | hey knome | 10:06 |
| ochosi | just sent you an updated tahr-ball | 10:06 |
| knome | aha | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: alrighty, sounds good | 10:36 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so i guess let's start testing light-locker 1.3.0 and work on l-l-s again... | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 10:37 |
| brainwash | what did change? | 10:38 |
| ochosi | option 1: late-locking (BOOL) | 10:39 |
| ochosi | option 2: lock-on-suspend (BOOL) | 10:39 |
| brainwash | oh, great | 10:39 |
| ochosi | if (late-locking) { greeter-screensaver-timeout = 0; } | 10:39 |
| ochosi | else { greeter-screensaver-timeout = $default_value; } | 10:40 |
| brainwash | makes sense :D | 10:40 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ^ | 10:40 |
| brainwash | will the changes land in beta2? | 10:40 |
| ochosi | i'm really happy retrospectively speaking that we introduced that timeout as an option in the greeter already | 10:41 |
| ochosi | that way we don't have to touch the greeter at all for this FFe | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: ideally | 10:42 |
| brainwash | how do you pass the new greeter timeout? | 10:42 |
| ochosi | brainwash: modify /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf | 10:42 |
| ochosi | that's the only way | 10:42 |
| ochosi | at least right now | 10:42 |
| brainwash | multi user systems... :( | 10:42 |
| ochosi | so yeah, before you say it, multiple users can override each other | 10:42 |
| brainwash | :P | 10:43 |
| ochosi | but that's *always* the case | 10:43 |
| ochosi | even now | 10:43 |
| ochosi | per-user greeter settings just don't make sense at all | 10:43 |
| brainwash | only people with root privileges can change it anyway | 10:43 |
| ochosi | ypu | 10:43 |
| ochosi | yup | 10:43 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: is rev 625 of the ubiquity slideshow going to be our final? I'm asking so I know if I can start working on its translation? | 10:54 |
| knome | don't start yet | 10:54 |
| knome | it's not final | 10:55 |
| slickymasterWork | do you still think that somethings could be improved? | 10:56 |
| knome | we are missing one slide | 10:56 |
| knome | etc... | 10:56 |
| knome | i need to work on the artwork | 10:56 |
| slickymasterWork | missing one slide where? | 10:57 |
| knome | in the slideshow | 10:57 |
| knome | ;) | 10:57 |
| slickymasterWork | loare we going to add one more slide? | 10:58 |
| slickymasterWork | s/loare/are | 10:58 |
| ochosi | humm, new whiskermenu bugfix release | 11:05 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, just HOLD. :) | 11:07 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: alrightie | 11:07 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, i will get a UIFe bug filed today, get it merged and hopefully uploaded soon | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: has it been packaged already (whisker)? | 11:23 |
| ochosi | nope, i don't think so | 11:23 |
| ochosi | that's why i mentioned it | 11:24 |
| ochosi | just read the release-mail on xfce users ml | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | ah | 11:24 |
| knome | heh | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | ok, I'll get to that tonight if Noskcaj doesn't beat me to it | 11:25 |
| knome | we got handed a package of cashew-peanut-papaya-raisin mix | 11:25 |
| knome | mission accomplished: | 11:25 |
| knome | a bowl of raisins left | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | that would be handy | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | I bought raisin bran | 11:26 |
| knome | how's that so satisfying | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | pretty sure there are 5 raisins in the box | 11:26 |
| knome | to eat all but the raisins | 11:26 |
| knome | aha, should send you more | 11:26 |
| knome | :P | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | so, I will work on packaging for shimmer-themes, xflock, and potentially whisker tonight | 11:27 |
| knome | bluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png | 11:27 |
| knome | bluesabre, opinion? | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | use a tahr or a more adorable kitty? | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | or, grumpy cat | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | other than that, looks good to me | 11:29 |
| knome | hah | 11:29 |
| knome | watch the words | 11:29 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | s/good/incredible/ | 11:29 |
| knome | hah | 11:29 |
| knome | no, the "more adorable" | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | :) | 11:29 |
| knome | somebody in this room owns that cat | 11:29 |
| slickymasterWork | I was already seeing it | 11:30 |
| slickymasterWork | why a cat?! | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | heh | 11:30 |
| knome | why not? | 11:30 |
| knome | isn't it a good pun ;) | 11:30 |
| brainwash | mmh, the slide mentions libreoffice, but we don't ship it by default | 11:31 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Jackson knows about it, for some reason told me about it, and 1.3.1 is up. | 11:31 |
| ochosi | Unit193: hm, you mean whisker? | 11:31 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: the reference to LibreOffice relates to Mugshot | 11:32 |
| knome | bluesabre, your fault! | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | 1.3.2 is out, what I said is outdated now. | 11:32 |
| knome | i guess we can drop the mention just as well | 11:32 |
| knome | it's mentioned in the docs anyway | 11:32 |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: I know that | 11:32 |
| knome | in a better way | 11:32 |
| knome | "*if* you have libreoffice..." | 11:33 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yup | 11:33 |
| brainwash | but it might give the user the impression that libreoffice is installed by default | 11:33 |
| brainwash | knome: ok | 11:33 |
| knome | brainwash, bluesabre: damn you two, can either change their nick, same length and same initial is no good | 11:34 |
| knome | :P | 11:34 |
| Unit193 | Tell me about it.. :P | 11:34 |
| ochosi | +1 | 11:35 |
| ochosi | s/bluesabre/bluesabretooth/ | 11:35 |
| ochosi | s/brainwash/brainwashed/ | 11:35 |
| knome | lol | 11:35 |
| ochosi | well, that was easy, eh? | 11:36 |
| knome | you can just s/bluesabre/bs/ ;)= | 11:36 |
| Unit193 | FWIW, I read 'bluesabre' as blues bre, like what a minion in Despicable Me says. | 11:36 |
| knome | papple! | 11:37 |
| Unit193 | Banana! | 11:37 |
| knome | thanks... now i have to use some time to watch clips on youtube | 11:37 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 11:44 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, looks like we got our signals crossed with the recent MPs. When I pulled 163, I saw that some screensaver references were stil in there... | 13:00 |
| knome | mhm | 13:00 |
| jjfrv8 | so I assumed you had not merged my latest version. That's why I just copied the two chapters with those references over again this morning | 13:01 |
| jjfrv8 | so I'm hoping everything is right now, but it looks like there's one paragraph in the current MP that's the same as the xubuntu-docs branch | 13:04 |
| jjfrv8 | bbl | 13:29 |
| jhenke | hi everybody | 15:40 |
| knome | hey | 15:45 |
| elfy | afternoon | 16:10 |
| elfy | really sorry about this - but reported a thunar bug ;) | 16:28 |
| elfy | bug 1294209 | 16:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1294209 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294209 | 16:28 |
| pleia2 | ouch | 16:30 |
| elfy | hi pleia2 | 16:32 |
| pleia2 | hi there elfy | 16:32 |
| ochosi | hey micahg | 16:59 |
| jhenke | hi guys | 17:08 |
| elfy | hi jhenke | 17:09 |
| ochosi | hey | 17:11 |
| brainwash | elfy: thanks for yet another thunar/xfdesktop bug :P | 17:22 |
| elfy | I do my best ;) | 17:25 |
| ochosi | there's a new xfdesktop release btw | 17:26 |
| ochosi | hope we can get that in, it has lotsa nice bugfixes | 17:26 |
| * elfy really ought to subscribe to some of these xfce m/lists ... | 17:27 | |
| Unit193 | I check commits every few days. | 17:29 |
| Unit193 | Sooooooo, not sure if it's been fixed in the latest Trusty kernel, but graphics work in liquorix. :P | 17:30 |
| jhenke | how was the name of the package the include all the packaing/devel tools again? | 17:48 |
| jhenke | I've forgot the name and I am on a fresh VM image | 17:48 |
| knome | build-essential? | 17:50 |
| Unit193 | It's what I was thinking, but packaging? | 17:51 |
| jhenke | yes that was it | 17:51 |
| jhenke | just forgot the name | 17:51 |
| jhenke | sorry guys, just experienced a segfault in xfwm4, bug 1294264 | 18:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1294264 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294264 | 18:17 |
| ochosi | interesting | 18:19 |
| ochosi | lots of segfaults all over the place lately | 18:20 |
| jhenke | short question shall I add a changelog entry after I updated a patch or is that the taks of the person accpeting the pull request? | 18:23 |
| ochosi | jhenke: yeah, changelog is good generally | 18:32 |
| ochosi | but not mandatory | 18:32 |
| jhenke | okay I have fixed the problem in my private branch, to whom shall I send the merge request for xfce4-session? | 18:41 |
| ochosi | jhenke: can you quickly point me to it? | 19:02 |
| ochosi | generally speaking, this would be the routine: | 19:02 |
| ochosi | 1) check whether there's a bugreport upstream | 19:02 |
| ochosi | 2) if not, submit one | 19:02 |
| ochosi | 2) if so, check it | 19:03 |
| ochosi | 3) add the patch there and a comment | 19:03 |
| ochosi | 4) wait patiently until the/a maintainer picks it up | 19:03 |
| ochosi | if it's a fix we want in xubuntu and that wont go into a bugfix release soon enough, we can add it to xubuntu | 19:04 |
| ochosi | for that to happen, simply file a merge request for xfce4-session | 19:04 |
| jhenke | I just modified the patch that was already in xubuntu | 19:15 |
| jhenke | ochosi https://code.launchpad.net/~jhe/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-session/light-locker/+merge/211605 | 19:16 |
| ochosi | right | 19:18 |
| ochosi | there were a few discussions around that | 19:18 |
| ochosi | we knew about this simple patch :) | 19:18 |
| jhenke | I just reordered the locking so light locker is always used first if available | 19:23 |
| jhenke | shouldn't cause any regressions | 19:23 |
| ochosi | well it shouldnt *now* because light-locker now checks whether it's running (with the 1.2.1 update) | 19:27 |
| ochosi | before that update it was actually not entirely unproblematic | 19:27 |
| ochosi | hey Noskcaj | 19:29 |
| Noskcaj | morning ochosi | 19:30 |
| ochosi | just a quick heads up | 19:30 |
| ochosi | new bugfix releases for xfdesktop and whiskermenu today | 19:30 |
| ochosi | if you have time, that'd be great | 19:30 |
| Noskcaj | yep, packaging now | 19:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre said he could take care of whisker, so xfdesktop would have higher priority | 19:31 |
| ochosi | but if you wanna do both, i guess he won't be mad at you :p | 19:31 |
| Noskcaj | I'll do both in debian, i'm guessing he meant straight to ubuntu | 19:33 |
| ochosi | possibly, i dunno | 19:33 |
| ochosi | but debian sounds good | 19:33 |
| Noskcaj | also, tthe indicator update finally hit trusty | 19:33 |
| ochosi | which one? | 19:34 |
| Noskcaj | 2.3.2 | 19:34 |
| ochosi | ah great | 19:35 |
| ochosi | the theming fixes we did ) | 19:35 |
| ochosi | ah, no, the prop dialog | 19:35 |
| ochosi | theming fixes was 2.3.1 | 19:36 |
| jhenke | hi Noskcaj | 19:44 |
| Noskcaj | hey jhenke | 19:45 |
| ochosi | have a good one everyone | 19:57 |
| elfy | bug 1290575 | 20:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1290575 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290575 | 20:01 |
| elfy | is this one fixed or not - got it affecting 2 things - one's confirmed the other fixed | 20:01 |
| elfy | if whoever thinks it is fixed then it isn't | 20:02 |
| brainwash | elfy: apparently not fixed | 20:36 |
| brainwash | the greeter was patched to exit properly and free allocated memory, but there seems to be another problem | 20:37 |
| brainwash | a problem which I cannot reproduce | 20:38 |
| brainwash | it happened once so far and I simply blamed xmir for breaking it | 20:39 |
| elfy | lol | 20:39 |
| elfy | well I don't have that so we can't blame it :p | 20:39 |
| brainwash | right, but you have some log files we would like to see I guess :D | 20:40 |
| elfy | probably | 20:40 |
| elfy | but let's not get into that guessing game stuff again - you tell me what you want and I'll provide it | 20:40 |
| brainwash | basically the stuff in /var/log/lightdm | 20:40 |
| elfy | next time it happens I'll add it to the bug report | 20:42 |
| brainwash | thanks, you can skip the .old files, because these are the log files created by the previous lightdm or greeter start | 20:44 |
| brainwash | and the files containing a number greater than 0 | 20:44 |
| elfy | yep | 20:47 |
| elfy | just the 2 lightdm.log and x-0.log | 20:48 |
| brainwash | and x-0-greeter | 20:49 |
| elfy | yep - didn't see that | 20:55 |
| elfy | ta | 20:56 |
| jhenke | good night | 20:59 |
| elfy | night jhenke | 21:00 |
| brainwash | ochosi: bug 1293305 | 23:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1293305 in exo (Ubuntu) "Several icon themes lack an "internet-mail" icon, causing it to go missing from the XFCE menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293305 | 23:05 |
| brainwash | any thoughts? | 23:05 |
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