=== Mapley is now known as IS_THIS_GREEN === IS_THIS_GREEN is now known as is_this_greener === is_this_greener is now known as Mapley [01:05] knome, a reminder that you were going to investigate http://imagebin.org/299466 [01:05] once that's settled, I can push the remaining 8 or so chapters that depend on it [01:14] you can push them, that's related to entities [01:14] so we don't need to change the markup [01:14] only the entities file [01:56] knome, MP is pushed [02:00] MP or branch? :) [02:01] i saw the email really quickly, but it went via a mail filter somewhere deep in the bin [02:02] hmm, wait [02:02] didn't i approve and merge this already? [02:03] i did the other MP manually since it would have reintroduced stuff that was already fixed [02:04] besides, you have push rights to the main branch yourself, i trust you to push only sane things [02:04] But not me. :D [02:04] well that's why you don't have the push rights [02:04] * knome hides [02:06] With that last one, I'm done on docs right? [02:06] nevar [02:06] :) [02:07] you have entered a room. the door behind you is locked from outside. what do you do? [02:10] you stood still for a time too long, and one of the doc team people noticed you with no task. you are assigned a new doc team task. what do you do? [02:10] :P [02:10] re-sync'd mine with master. [02:11] jjfrv8, Unit193: you might want to look at lp:~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-uife [02:11] (Should actually have been done properly too, pushed as linguas2.) [02:11] didn't see any MP. hard to see diff's. [02:12] You were going to look before I went for the merge, make sure I'm in the right ballpark. [02:12] well, [02:12] it's easier to look at a MP and diff [02:12] but i can look at the branch as is [02:13] will try to get to that tomorrow, since doc freeze soon [02:14] Err, whoops then. [02:14] * Unit193 should have set jjfrv8 as reviewer again. :P [02:14] heh [02:16] Actually, line 103 would be of interest to him. [02:17] === modified file 'scripts/translate.sh' [02:17] seriously? :) [02:18] i guess you mean lines 114-115 [02:19] Well, that it's modified is of interest of course. [02:19] So technically the coreutils dep isn't precisely correct, but it basically is. [02:19] heh [02:21] If you use the linguas file, it isn't, but it falls back to a method that uses basename -s, so I left the dep in there. What do you think? [02:25] the dependency is okay [02:25] Want anymore reviewers? [02:26] i'll tell you tomorrow [02:26] or add myself [02:28] Feel free to ask any questions. It'd be nice to move the entire translation things into the translate script, but I was pretty sure you didn't want that. :/ [02:29] let's get the translations into trusty, then we can improve [02:30] Sure, just means the clean target is a tad slower. [02:33] yaeh, but first time we have translations [02:39] * Unit193 hopes for a full Russian translation yet. [02:47] mmh, would be good to get several languages in [02:48] i'm off for now [02:48] see you later [02:48] Tschau! [08:09] knome: slideshow looks ok - the red looks better :p - all done now? [09:22] knome, bluesabre: just talked to seb128 and Laney about the FFe for light-locker1.4.0, they both said it should be fine [09:22] knome, bluesabre: also, cavalier wants to wait with 1.4.0 release till the weekend so we get more translations. i suggest we prep the changes in light-locker-settings and think what we wanna have as default setting [09:22] bbiab [10:01] elfy, red? :P [10:01] elfy, no, two minor changes yet. [10:02] hey ochosi [10:06] hey knome [10:06] just sent you an updated tahr-ball [10:06] aha [10:36] ochosi: alrighty, sounds good [10:37] bluesabre: so i guess let's start testing light-locker 1.3.0 and work on l-l-s again... [10:37] yeah [10:38] what did change? [10:39] option 1: late-locking (BOOL) [10:39] option 2: lock-on-suspend (BOOL) [10:39] oh, great [10:39] if (late-locking) { greeter-screensaver-timeout = 0; } [10:40] else { greeter-screensaver-timeout = $default_value; } [10:40] makes sense :D [10:40] bluesabre: ^ [10:40] will the changes land in beta2? [10:41] i'm really happy retrospectively speaking that we introduced that timeout as an option in the greeter already [10:41] that way we don't have to touch the greeter at all for this FFe [10:42] brainwash: ideally [10:42] how do you pass the new greeter timeout? [10:42] brainwash: modify /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf [10:42] that's the only way [10:42] at least right now [10:42] multi user systems... :( [10:42] so yeah, before you say it, multiple users can override each other [10:43] :P [10:43] but that's *always* the case [10:43] even now [10:43] per-user greeter settings just don't make sense at all [10:43] only people with root privileges can change it anyway [10:43] ypu [10:43] yup [10:54] knome: is rev 625 of the ubiquity slideshow going to be our final? I'm asking so I know if I can start working on its translation? [10:54] don't start yet [10:55] it's not final [10:56] do you still think that somethings could be improved? [10:56] we are missing one slide [10:56] etc... [10:56] i need to work on the artwork [10:57] missing one slide where? [10:57] in the slideshow [10:57] ;) [10:58] loare we going to add one more slide? [10:58] s/loare/are [11:05] humm, new whiskermenu bugfix release [11:07] slickymasterWork, just HOLD. :) [11:07] knome: alrightie [11:07] slickymasterWork, i will get a UIFe bug filed today, get it merged and hopefully uploaded soon [11:23] ochosi: has it been packaged already (whisker)? [11:23] nope, i don't think so [11:24] that's why i mentioned it [11:24] just read the release-mail on xfce users ml [11:24] ah [11:25] heh [11:25] ok, I'll get to that tonight if Noskcaj doesn't beat me to it [11:25] we got handed a package of cashew-peanut-papaya-raisin mix [11:25] mission accomplished: [11:25] a bowl of raisins left [11:26] that would be handy [11:26] I bought raisin bran [11:26] how's that so satisfying [11:26] pretty sure there are 5 raisins in the box [11:26] to eat all but the raisins [11:26] aha, should send you more [11:26] :P [11:27] so, I will work on packaging for shimmer-themes, xflock, and potentially whisker tonight [11:27] bluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png [11:27] bluesabre, opinion? [11:28] use a tahr or a more adorable kitty? [11:28] or, grumpy cat [11:29] other than that, looks good to me [11:29] hah [11:29] watch the words [11:29] slickymasterWork, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png [11:29] s/good/incredible/ [11:29] hah [11:29] no, the "more adorable" [11:29] :) [11:29] somebody in this room owns that cat [11:30] I was already seeing it [11:30] why a cat?! [11:30] heh [11:30] why not? [11:30] isn't it a good pun ;) [11:31] mmh, the slide mentions libreoffice, but we don't ship it by default [11:31] ochosi: Jackson knows about it, for some reason told me about it, and 1.3.1 is up. [11:31] Unit193: hm, you mean whisker? [11:32] brainwash: the reference to LibreOffice relates to Mugshot [11:32] bluesabre, your fault! [11:32] 1.3.2 is out, what I said is outdated now. [11:32] i guess we can drop the mention just as well [11:32] it's mentioned in the docs anyway [11:32] slickymasterWork: I know that [11:32] in a better way [11:33] "*if* you have libreoffice..." [11:33] Unit193: yup [11:33] but it might give the user the impression that libreoffice is installed by default [11:33] knome: ok [11:34] brainwash, bluesabre: damn you two, can either change their nick, same length and same initial is no good [11:34] :P [11:34] Tell me about it.. :P [11:35] +1 [11:35] s/bluesabre/bluesabretooth/ [11:35] s/brainwash/brainwashed/ [11:35] lol [11:36] well, that was easy, eh? [11:36] you can just s/bluesabre/bs/ ;)= [11:36] FWIW, I read 'bluesabre' as blues bre, like what a minion in Despicable Me says. [11:37] papple! [11:37] Banana! [11:37] thanks... now i have to use some time to watch clips on youtube [11:44] gotta run, bbl [13:00] knome, looks like we got our signals crossed with the recent MPs. When I pulled 163, I saw that some screensaver references were stil in there... [13:00] mhm [13:01] so I assumed you had not merged my latest version. That's why I just copied the two chapters with those references over again this morning [13:04] so I'm hoping everything is right now, but it looks like there's one paragraph in the current MP that's the same as the xubuntu-docs branch [13:29] bbl [15:40] hi everybody [15:45] hey [16:10] afternoon [16:28] really sorry about this - but reported a thunar bug ;) [16:28] bug 1294209 [16:28] bug 1294209 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294209 [16:30] ouch [16:32] hi pleia2 [16:32] hi there elfy [16:59] hey micahg [17:08] hi guys [17:09] hi jhenke [17:11] hey [17:22] elfy: thanks for yet another thunar/xfdesktop bug :P [17:25] I do my best ;) [17:26] there's a new xfdesktop release btw [17:26] hope we can get that in, it has lotsa nice bugfixes [17:27] * elfy really ought to subscribe to some of these xfce m/lists ... [17:29] I check commits every few days. [17:30] Sooooooo, not sure if it's been fixed in the latest Trusty kernel, but graphics work in liquorix. :P [17:48] how was the name of the package the include all the packaing/devel tools again? [17:48] I've forgot the name and I am on a fresh VM image [17:50] build-essential? [17:51] It's what I was thinking, but packaging? [17:51] yes that was it [17:51] just forgot the name [18:17] sorry guys, just experienced a segfault in xfwm4, bug 1294264 [18:17] bug 1294264 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294264 [18:19] interesting [18:20] lots of segfaults all over the place lately [18:23] short question shall I add a changelog entry after I updated a patch or is that the taks of the person accpeting the pull request? [18:32] jhenke: yeah, changelog is good generally [18:32] but not mandatory [18:41] okay I have fixed the problem in my private branch, to whom shall I send the merge request for xfce4-session? [19:02] jhenke: can you quickly point me to it? [19:02] generally speaking, this would be the routine: [19:02] 1) check whether there's a bugreport upstream [19:02] 2) if not, submit one [19:03] 2) if so, check it [19:03] 3) add the patch there and a comment [19:03] 4) wait patiently until the/a maintainer picks it up [19:04] if it's a fix we want in xubuntu and that wont go into a bugfix release soon enough, we can add it to xubuntu [19:04] for that to happen, simply file a merge request for xfce4-session [19:15] I just modified the patch that was already in xubuntu [19:16] ochosi https://code.launchpad.net/~jhe/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-session/light-locker/+merge/211605 [19:18] right [19:18] there were a few discussions around that [19:18] we knew about this simple patch :) [19:23] I just reordered the locking so light locker is always used first if available [19:23] shouldn't cause any regressions [19:27] well it shouldnt *now* because light-locker now checks whether it's running (with the 1.2.1 update) [19:27] before that update it was actually not entirely unproblematic [19:29] hey Noskcaj [19:30] morning ochosi [19:30] just a quick heads up [19:30] new bugfix releases for xfdesktop and whiskermenu today [19:30] if you have time, that'd be great [19:31] yep, packaging now [19:31] bluesabre said he could take care of whisker, so xfdesktop would have higher priority [19:31] but if you wanna do both, i guess he won't be mad at you :p [19:33] I'll do both in debian, i'm guessing he meant straight to ubuntu [19:33] possibly, i dunno [19:33] but debian sounds good [19:33] also, tthe indicator update finally hit trusty [19:34] which one? [19:34] 2.3.2 [19:35] ah great [19:35] the theming fixes we did ) [19:35] ah, no, the prop dialog [19:36] theming fixes was 2.3.1 [19:44] hi Noskcaj [19:45] hey jhenke [19:57] have a good one everyone [20:01] bug 1290575 [20:01] bug 1290575 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290575 [20:01] is this one fixed or not - got it affecting 2 things - one's confirmed the other fixed [20:02] if whoever thinks it is fixed then it isn't [20:36] elfy: apparently not fixed [20:37] the greeter was patched to exit properly and free allocated memory, but there seems to be another problem [20:38] a problem which I cannot reproduce [20:39] it happened once so far and I simply blamed xmir for breaking it [20:39] lol [20:39] well I don't have that so we can't blame it :p [20:40] right, but you have some log files we would like to see I guess :D [20:40] probably [20:40] but let's not get into that guessing game stuff again - you tell me what you want and I'll provide it [20:40] basically the stuff in /var/log/lightdm [20:42] next time it happens I'll add it to the bug report [20:44] thanks, you can skip the .old files, because these are the log files created by the previous lightdm or greeter start [20:44] and the files containing a number greater than 0 [20:47] yep [20:48] just the 2 lightdm.log and x-0.log [20:49] and x-0-greeter [20:55] yep - didn't see that [20:56] ta [20:59] good night [21:00] night jhenke [23:05] ochosi: bug 1293305 [23:05] bug 1293305 in exo (Ubuntu) "Several icon themes lack an "internet-mail" icon, causing it to go missing from the XFCE menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293305 [23:05] any thoughts?