| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov) | 00:44 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Did you answer my questions? | 04:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I see you did. Approved. | 04:30 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:14 |
| jmux | Riddell: I just requested a new review of my testcase patch. Had been in Qt-Gerrit for 6 days... I'll be on holiday from next week until 25.5. with limited internet access. | 08:54 |
| jmux | Riddell: Is there a "list of bullet points", which I can use to describe the impact, test case and regression potential for the qt4 bug? | 08:56 |
| jmux | Riddell: Should I add my analysis to the bug report? | 08:57 |
| Riddell | jmux: "it'll cause a crash always/sometimes/rarely" would be the impact | 09:08 |
| Riddell | jmux: "you can cause the crash by doing ..., after the patch this will no longer crash" is | 09:09 |
| Riddell | jmux: "this patch is a work of perfection and will cause no issues because it is fully covered by test cases" is regression potential | 09:10 |
| jussi | jmux: cripes, nice long holiday. enjoy! | 09:15 |
| Riddell | yay, bug 1291899 approved, up goes 4.13! | 09:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899 | 09:43 |
| jmux | Riddell: Ok - a first proposal http://paste.debian.net/88514/. I'm in a longer meeting now, so don't expect any replies in the next hours. I'll read the backlog. | 09:58 |
| jussi | baloo is such a strangely named piece of SW. it feels.... unfinished :D | 10:12 |
| Riddell | jussi: just because of the name? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | (which isn't user visible) | 10:20 |
| vHanda | jussi: could you please elaborate? | 10:21 |
| jussi | yes, just the name | 10:21 |
| vHanda | phew, okay :) | 10:21 |
| jussi | thts why I sid strangely named | 10:21 |
| Riddell | jussi: compared to nepomuk it offers the bare necessities of desktop search :) | 10:23 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ubuntu-sru love needed on bug 1290514 | 10:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 | 10:23 |
| Riddell | jmux: thanks, added those to the bug and now it need approved by the stable release update team, then it can go into -proposed where we need to test it then a week later it can go into -updates | 10:24 |
| yofel | can we include the kdnssd rename in our FFe now that 4.13 was uploaded? | 10:54 |
| Riddell | yofel: it hasn't been uploaded yet, what's changed? | 10:55 |
| Riddell | 4.13 FFe includes everything until 4.13 gets released in my opinion | 10:56 |
| yofel | well, as albert said on packagers, kdnssd will have a new tarball name probably now that the repo was renamed | 10:56 |
| yofel | should be a trivial replacement though | 10:56 |
| Riddell | hmm didn't realise that covered 4.13 too but yeah that should be fine | 10:58 |
| BluesKaj | "Morning | 11:27 |
| Mamarok | there we go again, Plasma desktop has everything completely black with the latest kernel, previous one works | 12:46 |
| Mamarok | I only see the windows border and the plasma panel, everything else is black | 12:47 |
| Mamarok | including the windows content | 12:47 |
| Mamarok | the kernel with problem si 3.13.0-17, 64 bit system | 12:48 |
| Mamarok | is* | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | Mamarok, use xrender and native for composting and Qt, that might help | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | why do I have to change that when it worked before? That makes no sense, and it depends on the kernel | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | and I made a typo, the one that doesn't work is the -18 | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | Mamarok, i haven't tried to analyze , but it looks like it's a kde problem | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | or kwin even | 12:52 |
| * yofel has that on his notebook sometimes, resetting the compositing usually helps | 12:54 | |
| yofel | I blame nvidia usually | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I had the same symptoms on this intel gpu, no nvidia here, aamof my old desktop runs nvidia gpu and doesn't have the same blanking/black problems on 14 04 | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | as this laptop | 12:57 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov) | 13:24 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski) | 13:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer_! how's the GPU? | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer_ | still broken | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | though I have the spare machine setup | 13:41 |
| Riddell | :( | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | I'm expecting a call from Apple at 3 | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | and turns out many other people have the same issue | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/16/owners-of-late-2011-macbook-pros-report-critical-gpu-failures-system-crashes | 13:42 |
| Riddell | boom | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | I'm press harder for a replacement now | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | instead of a repair | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | since a repair will probably only paper over the problem | 13:44 |
| ScottK | Aren't you glad you paid extra for high quality hardware. | 13:44 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: my condolences for the gpu :P | 13:45 |
| yofel | do you still need kdeconnect btw.? I didn't get to it yesterday? | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | well, I'll be glad if they replace the machine with a new one :P | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: it's alright, I can do it now that I have my gpg keys on this machine | 13:45 |
| yofel | ok | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's annoying how this is pretty much the exact same issue as my Dell, GPU failiure | 13:46 |
| * Riddell hugs his thinkpad | 13:46 | |
| yofel | FWIW, my old R61 did get its GPU replaced once, so that seems to be a general issue :S | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | hm | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | this desktop seems to have corruption too | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | yay | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | <- GPU breaker | 13:48 |
| yofel | you should get a job as hardware tester :P | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/19/plasma-desktopkh2108.png | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/19/plasma-desktopUR2108.png | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | still | 13:53 |
| BluesKaj | here :) | 13:53 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: if that's a screenshot then that's not the GPU.. | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | mhmm | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | mesa bug | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | poor mesa | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: also you keep having GPU issues because you keep buying laptops with dedicated GPUs | 14:22 |
| * apachelogger did that exactly once | 14:22 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer_: debian seems to have ported to eigen 3 by adding a patch to each app which uses it and sending none upstream | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger falls off chair | 14:25 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: don't all laptops have dedicated GPUs? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I mean the opposite of onboard gpus, whatever one calls that | 14:26 |
| Riddell | do I make a trello card for 14.04 to send debian's eigen 3 patches upstream? | 14:27 |
| ScottK | I'd ask first why they didn't upstream them. Who did the patches? | 14:28 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ah no I'm being unfair, they're on reviewboard, I was looking at bugs.kde.org | 14:28 |
| Riddell | https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116611/ for calligra | 14:29 |
| ScottK | Ah. That's better. | 14:29 |
| Riddell | still under discussion | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you tell debian to sned debian's patches upstream I say | 14:29 |
| Riddell | kalzium is up https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116638/ | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: also, what I actually meant was gpus that require dedicated cooling xD | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | all laptop gpus are onboard I think ^^ | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: they are | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | so, Apple is going to replace the logic board one more time | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | then they'll replace the laptop | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | > Ubuntu Now Runs Well On The MacBook Air, Beats OS X In Graphics | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: you should have gotten a macbook air | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | that also has the sane kind of gpu :P | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh | 14:57 |
| Riddell | 15:01 < maxy> Riddell: If you have the time go ahead and push them (ideally marking the patches as forwarded) | 15:14 |
| Riddell | eigen 3 patches for the upstreaming | 15:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: does that deserve a trello card? | 15:14 |
| ScottK | Based on the calligra review board, there's some testing needed too. | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if you want to work on that | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | anything you want to track progress on or be reminded of doing is worth a card ;) | 15:29 |
| yofel | vHanda: does baloo require the same amount of inotify watches as nepomuk? | 16:33 |
| vHanda | yes | 16:33 |
| yofel | k | 16:33 |
| yofel | vHanda: do nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets still provide something useful when nepomuk is removed from kde-runtime? (i.e. can I drop them from the dependencies of the other packages) | 18:24 |
| Riddell | yofel: we still need nepomuk-core for the baloo migrator at least | 18:26 |
| yofel | nepomuk-core-runtime as well? I want to drop that from kde-runtime, so if baloo needs it it should depend on it | 18:27 |
| Riddell | /usr/bin/nepomukmigrator | 18:30 |
| Riddell | is in need nepomuk-core for the baloo migrator at least | 18:30 |
| Riddell | meh | 18:30 |
| Riddell | it's in nepomuk-core-runtime | 18:30 |
| Riddell | although it can be moved if we want | 18:30 |
| yofel | ok | 18:30 |
| yofel | nah, it's fine if it's there | 18:30 |
| Riddell | but nothing needs to depend on it | 18:31 |
| Riddell | except PMC | 18:31 |
| yofel | so I can e.g. remove "Build-Depends: libnepomukwidgets-dev, nepomuk-core-dev" from kdepim and kde-baseapps? | 18:33 |
| Riddell | yeah I think so | 18:36 |
| ScottK | bad Riddell for not updating bzr when he updated quassel (fixed it for you). | 18:42 |
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| jussi | Riddell: still about? | 19:05 |
| Riddell | jussi: yo | 19:10 |
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| kdeuser56 | feedback about 4.13 so far: I would vote for shipping it | 19:40 |
| kdeuser56 | Broken features: querying ratings in dolphin advanced search | 19:40 |
| kdeuser56 | quering tags in dolphin sidepanel (by clicking on the tag) | 19:41 |
| kdeuser56 | timeline... (I am not sure exactly what it does ... but its not correct in my case) | 19:41 |
| kdeuser56 | if you go to tags:// you get a very weird overview of the tags ... a tag has all other tags in his subcategory ..., folders shown under each tag are not entirely correct ... | 19:43 |
| kdeuser56 | xattr information is correct though in all cases ... | 19:44 |
| kdeuser56 | so the semantic features accessible from dolphin would definitely need some love ... | 19:45 |
| kdeuser56 | the performance is amazing though ... | 19:45 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: do you have an idea when I can reach vHanda on IRC (to which time UTC?) | 19:46 |
| ahoneybun | hey ovidiu-florin_ | 21:07 |
| Riddell | hmm circular dependencies in the compiling, I thought I'd fixed those, maybe I forgot to push them | 23:32 |
| Riddell | kdepimlibs shouldn't depend on nepomuk | 23:32 |
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